Wilderness Medicine Wednesday Ep 3 Hypothermia!

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  • @phillipjohncodd
    @phillipjohncodd 4 місяці тому +2

    Happened to me hiking a mountain in Finland on my own. Got caught in a blizzard in summer. Brain when nub and ran down the mountain to try warm up. Can only remember finding myself in a small mountain hut with two people with a stove lighting. Just can't remember how I got there

  • @gadgetman_nz4092
    @gadgetman_nz4092 4 місяці тому

    Had a young lady with mild hypothermia on a multi day wander in the wilderness many years ago. An unforecast cold storm came through when we were on the tops. Stopped and got her into my waterproof/windproof outer layer and some food and hot drink into her. Catching and dealing with it early makes life much easier.

    • @AdventureOtaku
      @AdventureOtaku  4 місяці тому

      With just about everything in Wilderness medicine. Early detection/prevention is key

  • @wisenber
    @wisenber 4 місяці тому +1

    The undressing thing does happen. One of the larger references to it was during the French retreat from Russia after Napoleon's failed invasion. There have also been a number of hikers found deceased and undressed after a distress call.
    I find it important to understand that hypothermia arrives in many ways. The pathway for rapid onset hypothermia differs from a more gradual exposure based hypothermia. I've had both. Immersion is rapid onset and paddlers are more familiar with it.
    Gradual onset can happen when sleeping in a system not warm enough, or hiking in a cold rain all day, paddling for hours in cold air or just being outside without enough layers.
    It's the gradual onset that is sneakiest. I spent a 10 degree night in a 20 degree sleep system and felt chilly most of the night. Got up in the morning and walked around camp chatting with the other campers, then just became dizzy and face planted in the snow.
    The undressing phenomena tends to happen when someone is trudging on while dipping into more severe levels of hypothermia (like a lost hiker or a retreating soldier without shoes). Since they are moving up until the end, the heart is still pumping and the lungs burning. I'm not aware of any survivors after they've undressed that were interviewed, but I imagine their failing brains sent some sort of signal that they were overheating and not freezing. If you did find someone in that state still living, the shock from an attempted resuscitation would probably finish them.
    The part paddlers need to worry most about with that 1-10-1 rule is that your immersion usually means you've capsized. An involuntary inhale when you're upside down can lead to an almost immediate drowning. I've "heard" of skilled paddlers being found still attached to their kayaks with their skirts. They knew how to roll, but the initial shock paired with inhaling cold water kept them from ever getting to the ten minute part.
    And it does take a lot to recover, even in ideal circumstances. It generally takes me a warm night's sleep from moderate hypothermia, and I feel zapped until then. Not something you just shrug off and keep moving from.

    • @AdventureOtaku
      @AdventureOtaku  4 місяці тому

      I don’t think the paradoxical undressing doesn’t happen, but I think it is pretty rare. And If I can arrange it, I want to do a drowning video soon. A doctor and outdoor educator I know is one of the premier experts on drowning.

    • @wisenber
      @wisenber 4 місяці тому

      @@AdventureOtaku Do us a favor and talk about it without demonstrating it!

    • @AdventureOtaku
      @AdventureOtaku  4 місяці тому +1

      Hmmm…that might be a good idea.

  • @Simon_W74
    @Simon_W74 4 місяці тому

    I had Hypothermia as a kid, it is horrible, I have never felt so helpless before or since.
    I was about 9 or 10 at the time and we when to a Lock in Scotland Called Lock Indorb which had a Island
    in the middle of it with a ruined Castle. I was playing in a rubber dingy with my older sister when she pushed me out with out the oars. I ended up drifting out very near to the Castle as the wind had taken me that way. I was already having trouble. I tried
    to wave to my family and Family friends for help. they just waved back at me thinking I was having a very good time floating on the water. Luckily the wind had a slight change of direction and start to move me to the shore of the Lock. I could barely move
    and tried to paddle with my hands to help get me back to the shore. This is when my Dad noticed things were not as they should be and ran over to where i was coming in. I couldn't walk or talk much sense as I was shivering uncontrollably. I was taken back
    to our car when every towel we had between the two families was wrapped around me. My Mum was a Axillary Nurse before we moved to Scotland. It was a lovely hot summers day, but the Lock was a bit on the cold side at the shore and it got colder and colder the
    more I drifted out, as it just sapped any heat away from me. I can't remember the journey home or feeling cold after being wrapped up n towels in the back of the car, I don't remember even going to bed that night. it is all a blank.
    A few years ago friends of ours, that we normally meet up with every summer on the Ilse
    of Mull in the Summer for two weeks. He is a former Outdoor Instructor and still very active on the water. questioned why I had bought a 5 mm wetsuit for snorkeling as he normally wears a 3mm one as I have done in previous years. The we went off snorkeling
    a bit farther off shore and he then realised why I have a 5 mm suit now as he got cold and I was still out an hour after he had come back to our Motorhomes. I used to get cold in places and would then find a nice warm current to warm up in I would spend hours
    out there. Didn't go snorkeling once last year as I was to busy having fun in my Kayak.
    I would love to go back on that Lock in my Kayak and land on the Island. To add to things
    that day there was two Canoeist (kayakers) as they were called then on the water and they didn't even come over and check on me. as I was waving for help by then. That was even in the days you could talk to a child without anyone think the worse of it.

  • @Hairygrump73
    @Hairygrump73 4 місяці тому

    Been there, it ain’t fun! Great video. You should do one on heat emergencies too. I’ve had to deal with a couple of those climbing and paddling

    • @AdventureOtaku
      @AdventureOtaku  4 місяці тому

      It’s on the list! Thanks. I’ll do this one closer to the summer. Thanks for watching.

  • @Boilermaker92
    @Boilermaker92 4 місяці тому

    Great video - this is a topic I've been interested in after taking up winter paddling. What was the temperature of the water the day you filmed this?

    • @AdventureOtaku
      @AdventureOtaku  4 місяці тому

      If I recall correctly right around 40 degrees

  • @Jubtion
    @Jubtion 4 місяці тому

    WMW!

    • @AdventureOtaku
      @AdventureOtaku  4 місяці тому +1

      You and I might be the only ones watching these.....

  • @RichardM-pb7ih
    @RichardM-pb7ih 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope you take this constructively...your videos are fantastic, very informative and helpful. The transition music volume between your into and beginning of the segment is horrific and really, really needs to be fixed, the volume is the issue, not the content...I can't possibly be the 1st person to comment on that....with that said, I really do think your videos are fantastic!!

    • @AdventureOtaku
      @AdventureOtaku  4 місяці тому +1

      Im glad you like the videos! I have gotten that complaint twice before, and both times I have lowered the volume of that opening track. I will do so again - but keep in mind I have like three weeks of videos already produced so it will take a bit before you notice the change. Sorry.

    • @RichardM-pb7ih
      @RichardM-pb7ih 4 місяці тому

      @@AdventureOtaku It doesn't stop me from watching, Thanks for responding. I'm looking forward to your future video!