@@stevekaylor5606 Very true, but such a helpful person need not be a therapist. I ought to have included that the healing effects of being heard by someone who truly cares AND understands what you are going through cannot be overestimated.
@@kismet-o6k Yes! Someone you can confide in - who will help guide improvements. Whereas, a licensed & credentialed Therapist may bring in a Psychiatric Evaluator - for then Labeling, neurotoxic drugs, etc.!
There are many many so severe adverse reactions stories like jess on communities.. Many people are very sick with severe cognitive issues to the point of dementia and many symptoms! What jess experienced is not so rare! Am so glad Jess got better! She truly deserves it!
I was also thinking that she is doing better because of natural healing occurring and it's probably not just due to the new medication she has been trying. She looks so much better in this video and I noticed she even smiled. In the last video she was seemed like a shell of herself (understandably). I am glad she is doing better. My heart broke for her when I watched the first video. It's so horrifying what happened and horrible she was given that abilify which was basically forced upon her. Even though she had some issues after taking the mushrooms and weed, I thinks eh would have been better off without any psych meds and she would have probably eventually normalized with time. It's pretty clear it was the abilify that really messed her up
Thank you for sharing your story. I really felt it when you said you would of rather gone to prison. Unfortunately ive done both and youre not wrong. The stigma of needing mental heath care is intense. We need more people like yourself who have the courage to share and to really dig for new ways to heal. I hope you continue to heal and rebuild your life. Thanks again.
I watch as much of your content as I can. It is amazing how much I learn from your guests. My daughter is currently going through a lot of what Jess is going through I remember seeing Jess in the part 1. Iam so thankful for her insight into what is going on in her mind. She brilliantly explains everything what a smart girl! Extremely helpful for Iam caring for my daughter and my daughter doesn’t always have words for what is going on. Thank you❤
Thank you Jess! I have Emotional Blunting, didn’t have any idea on what it was called. I couldn’t convey in words what was going on. I am not good with words but your descriptors where what made my husband finally say I get it. So thank you for giving me the words I couldn’t find!
I am so glad this video helped you In that way 🫂 i know how hard it is to share your symptoms/experiences with a loved one or doctor It's almost impossible I went through the same thing at my worst, and i couldn't find words or anything to explain to my family Stay strong 🙏 I hope you find a solution to your blunting
My son suffered after they forced 400mg Abilify Maintenna. He could not eat , sleep or talk. He still cannot articulate what happened because they still have him drugged on other drugs. After a psych stay, they randomly injected him with 400mg Abilify Maintenance. For 2 weeks he could not sleep, eat, talk or stop moving. He suffered severe akathasia- although I did not know what that was at the time. He paced constantly or rocked back from one foot to the other. He was obviously suffering horribly and they blamed the label they gave him. His all started from smoking spice. But after 2 weeks, he was arrested for doing something completely out of character- no one was hurt - but he was arrested. It’s a horrific story. Yes, he spent time in jail, but that was a much better place than a psych ward as she mentioned. Prisoners have rights. People in psych wards have zero rights and there is zero accountability on these so called “professionals “ who harm and abuse people in the psych wards. They have severely traumatized him. Jail did not traumatize him whatsoever. He is good at keeping to himself and out of trouble. The hospitals overdosed him on multiple Haldol/ativan injections- then were letting him die in isolation. Until my husband and I saw him dying- and I described that before under another video. I had to demand medical intervention and he landed in CV-ICU with respiratory failure, kidney injury, rhabdomyolysis and more. They had to work on him for over an hour to stop vital organ shutdown and death. If I had not seen him dying, he would be dead Then he was beaten multiple times by staff! He’s over 6 feet tall and strong and was drugged to the max and scared. And I have been banned from seeing him at times. He lost an eye in a psych ward once. And more. The worst of it started with that 400mg injection of Abilify Maintenna. Now he seems stuck in the system! I do all I can to keep him out of abusive hospitals. He is now so drugged up that he is in bed most all the time since 2022. He has tried to just jump off their drugs before and he was forced off CT by a p-doc once. Both times landed him in the torture ward with more labels and more drugs. Dr Josef- how can I help my son??? They have manipulated him with their drugs. I could even prove that. They wanted him gone because I saw what they did when they tried to kill him. Tried many times to put him away in state hospital where he would die. He is heavily drugged now. No life. This is also so EVIL! Destroying a young man’s life.
So sorry for what your son went through. Most of the time psychiatric hospitals make things a lot worse. They add more pain to the person that’s already in pain. Our experience: -Forced medications and over-medicating. -Lack of communication between staff and family members, basically keeping us in the dark. -Contradicting information from nurses and doctors (staff could not get their stories straight). - We know physical abuse occurs. -Patients lose their rights and their sense of self-worth is stripped away. -Staff can easily make-up or change a story when they deal with a patient who can’t defend themselves. It’s easy to blame a patient who’s “out” of his/her mind. -Monitoring phone call and not allowing cell phones to be used. -Not allowing family to visit. -A lot of these doctors have such an ego. They’re not willing to entertain alternative ways of helping a patient get better. They refused to look at underlying medical issues, such as metabolic health. As a matter of fact, they feed patients some of the worst foods and that’s across-the-board with all hospitals. When patients go into the psychiatric hospital, they, a lot of times, come out traumatized and are like zombies due to amount of drugs that were given to them. I know not all doctors, nurses or staff are bad. Many have good intentions. I also understand that working in a facility such as a mental ward can be very difficult and stressful. There’s got to be a different set up. Our mental health system is outdated and completely broken.
Move. If you have money and especially if you have a skill or a career, come to Romania. Psichiatry here is still the same bullshit, but it's much easier to keep your son out of hospital by simply signing him out of of the hospital, everybody speaks english here and realestate is cheap. Plus, everyone will kiss the ground you walk on, as an american.
Did your son have NMS? That’s what it sounds like. My son had NMS from forced Haldol. He almost died, and then developed excited catatonia. He recovered but it took years and getting him off almost all meds is what worked. Josef is his doctor.
I am sorry that you had to deal with that as well. I lost my entire freaking family and the courts just said I was borderline. They don’t even know what all I went through. My family does not believe in medication injury I feel like I live in another universe.
Jen, how are you? Idk if you remember me but you are such a wonderful soul, I lost all my devices which is why I stopped responding but maybe we can get back in touch.
Wow, a lot of this remind me of when I was her age, I went through very similar things back then from anti psychotics, half I had forgotten about. She is looking really positive going forward, over the years I've had a lot of issues with discontinuing psychiatric medications, the worst one was catatonia which lasted for around 6 months or so at around her age. Things can and do get better, it's good she is very careful about what she is choosing as medication now and making really informed decisions, we don't usually get that and a lot of times 20 psychiatrists will have 20 different ideas, it can be a minefield to navigate.
6:36- isn´t it sick, that we have to say disclaimers and make apologies in advance before we say something negative about psychiatry (or if we dare to give some advice or experiences to people that was harmed by criminals in white coats (doctors))?
Only once in my life have I caused a traffic collision, and it was during my half a week on ariprazole. Most of the near dozen psych meds I've tried did nothing to me at all, good or bad. A couple have helped. But this one erased my "autopilot" functions so that I drove carelessly into a roundabout and got rear ended as a result. Nobody was harmed, but I'm never touching that drug again.
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This medication is very dangerous, I ended up in the emergency room 3 weeks after taking it!
After suffering severe side effects from antidepressants for years and still being depressed, they offered me antipsychotics for treatment resistant depression. Hell no! After seeing this, I am happy about the decision that I made. I hope you have a speedy recovery ❤️🩹
Same, except I took the anti-psychotics that were prescribed to me (Seroquel, aka quetiapine). I've never felt worse in my entire life. I felt better when I was just depressed than when I took that garbage. (Also, it didn't fix my depression whatsoever.)
I am happy you never made that decision. I was give an antipsychotic without any consideration and I stopped. I am still in immense pain. I am thankful you don't have to feel this.
@@konstantinossohos2349 I dunno, maybe I'm weird because my body does seem to clear things out unusually fast, but it typically does get better eventually. There are some things that you can do; like drinking green tea, I've heard, helps clear things out of your body. There's light at the end of the tunnel, I promise.
@@konstantinossohos2349 I have indeed. I think for me part of the reason why I recovered so quickly is because I also just happen to have an autoimmune disorder, so my immune system is always "on"; my body naturally cleanses itself of bacteria/viruses/toxins more quickly than a regular persons'. I can't promise you that this will help, but maybe try eating some foods that boost your immune system; and green tea is usually good for ridding the body of toxins too. Intermittent fasting also boosts the immune system, so you could also try that.
They need to invent better anti depressants, I mean people who are already feeling vulnerable can’t afford to feel worse with side efffects for weeks or ones that make people feel worse. It’s madness
My friend was a meth addict and she said Welbutrin was similar to the effects of meth and that's why she would go to the hospital to get prescribed welbutrin. So she didn't really take it because of her mental condition, she took it for the side effects of that drug which mimicked meth.
Почему вы не подадите в суд на врачей которые не правильно вас лечили такими опасными препаратами? Психиатрию нужно запретить пока не будут тщательно расследованы подобные случаи и причины.
Полностью согласна, что психиатрию нужно запретить, хотя бы малую психиатрию. Столько жертв пострадало от так называемой фармакотерапии, но психиатры продолжают травить население. Я уверена, множество суицидов и последующих обострений психических заболеваний может быть связано с побочными эффектами препаратов, но эти врачи, конечно же, не признают этого, так как для них все симптомы могут быть объяснены только болезнью, а не эффектом лекарств, которые не пойми как работают.
everyone's anhedonia is different, but what is known is that its incredibly disabling and life ruining. Some are caused by psychiatric drugs, some caused by traumas or other mitochondrial dysfunction issues. Science owes it to its patients to create effective treatments that move the needle for people, not BS drugs that further cause these issues or don't do much of anything. I know that anhedonia and negative symptoms are exceptionally complicated almost impossible issues but these things are untouched and people live in complete disability. People are fed up. Anhedonia for some people can open the door to entirely brand new psychiatric disorders which go on to further ruin peoples lives. This industry must do better. MUST
I experienced both healing and permanent PSSD. Stopping my medication abruptly gave me concussion-like symptoms, followed by protracted withdrawal syndrome, which actually started to help me heal. However, when I mistakenly took an herb that affects neurotransmitters, I turned my protracted withdrawal into permanent PSSD. In my opinion, there’s a big difference between the two. PSSD is long-lasting and doesn’t show signs of recovery, unlike protracted withdrawal.
@@karenthorpe4387 It was a strong natural herb that works like an SSRI, as I read lately... It's Panax ginseng. It has a lot of reports of adverse reactions, as I see after. Seems unlikely chamomile caused such a severe setback, but of course, no one is sure of anything anymore!
@@karenthorpe4387 It was a strong natural herb that works like an SSRI, as I read lately... It's Panax ginseng. It has a lot of reports of adverse reactions, as I see after. Seems unlikely chamomile caused such a severe setback, but of course, no one is sure of anything anymore!
I am also curious what herb it was. Was it possibly kratom? That messes up a lot of people (myself included) who weren't even on psych meds to begin with. So I could only imagine the damage it would do when you are already injured form psych meds
It’s really hard to tell the difference between helping and hurting. I thought klonopin was helping my symptoms. I only realized what it had done when I pulled it away. The same thing happened when I tried to treat pain. It felt like it was helping me. I was working more and more and rejoining life. Eventually, I started to worsen and had to come off. When I came off, I was always worse than when I went back on trying to save my life. It was so deceptive to have a period where it helped. Helping is hurting. That’s the problem. Feeling good comes as a reaction to a neurotoxic molecule. That’s how “medications” work. They should remind more people of that. This time, the klonopin cessation did something and nothing really works the same. Most of those tricks were working less and less.
That's true. I take tha' sh** 3 years ago, in the meantime I was misdiagnosed with Schizophrenia during another 2 years before and changed from psychiatrist. Twist and shiver as hell every extremities just in the time your brain is going to "turn down the wale button" is no goddamn joke. That pill was so dangerous than I... Gotta to came back to Olanzapine. I asked him for Abilify 'cause sexual dysfunction (horrendous experience with a partner who break up with me after... You know... Can't have my erection). I started with 10 mg of Abilify and this chemical seemed to act directly in the pineal gland or some part really really important in the nervous system! Goddamn. Oh, no... No... Please no... That was so awful experience... Can't sleep during 2 days because of the shivering with my eyes closed and deeply about to sleep... That was a torture. A truly torture. So... During my 24 yo, can't maintain a relationship... Can't even sleep... Have headaches... Now I'm with 5 different medications by this diagnosis of Non Specified Personality Disorder (F60.9) and doing more than good.
I got some bad mushrooms and blacked out. my parents called the cops and had me arrested for it so I was threatened to prison while in benzo injury which was the reason I tried it.
@@rdallas81wait....what? This is what you have to say? You know, most people dont abuse drugs for fun. Usually it is a need to disconnect from trauma, pain, sadness etc. Really, if you have nothing helpful to say, just restrain so people are not made to have even bigger guilt. @jasonsenator6144 i hope it will get better and your life will get better in terms of what you said. Best wishes!
@@rdallas81I dont think you grasped the entirety of what they said, they tried it do to meds they were prescribed messing them up The meds cause problems when not abused esp if taken off them. Unless you only meant 🍄
Cymbalta Literally killed most my Dopamine receptors, now i live in dysphoria and stimulants dont work for me. Drug induced BRAIN DAMAGE ~ I have same symptoms after cymbalta... For me the only drug that helps are opioids for some reason..
My grandmother and mom offered me some sleep medications which they also use for antidepressants and I said no, because any antidepressants are bad for you. Antidepressants is THEE WORST medications that they can offer a patient.
@sarahjaye4117 Depression really means 'in a Depressed state'. I had a spinal cord injury a few months ago and decided to stop taking muscle relaxers about 2 weeks ago. After that I couldn't sleep and felt agitated, with frequent urination. There was nothing really wrong with my brain, but I was unable to do things like I normally did. I started taking the muscle relaxers again, and Lo and Behold they helped me sleep longer and since I was well rested I was able to do more things again and my skin started healing and stomach cramps were less painful. Sometimes people just have unrecognized pain that has to be managed. Another time a few years ago, I took a strong pain reliver, percocet, and I was so relaxed that I was able to talk more about painful situations in my life. I would consider unrecognizable body pain as a type of Depression. Because it doesn't stem from the brain, it stems from the body.
If I could go back to the first day I ever took this pill it was at the insistence of a dentist to calm me down and because he said he could not get my mouth open wide enough with severe TMJ and you know the hospital don't agree with that pill for TMJ at all. They suggest a gum shield or night retainer
@@Forgottenworlds777 1st - give someone a disease like Label, which has been clerked-in from DSM-6, 2nd - neurotoxic drugs, 3rd - keep him as a cash cow !
would it be dangerous to try remedies like l-dopa (dopamine?) or 5htp (serotonine?) or would they work? someone also said that pssd be more about central nervous system rather than a problem of single sensory nerves
I’ve been in abilify for 4years i think. As injection. Is my life over now? I feel rather okey, ive started on escitalopram also, a week ago, i feel tired but i believe i will get better. This scares me alot but i feel okey. I exercise, eat and drink
Nothing should ever be injected. Everytime I don't feel well I give myself a laxative to poop everything out, and I would feel better. But with an injection you cannot do that, you will continue to be sick for months until that injection wears off
@@S-H-A-R-E-DIf a drug takes more than 12 hours to work then it DOESN'T work! The drug is pointless. You cannot wait a month for something to work, that's so ridiculous.
She didn't recover though. She's just on another med that is masking the symptoms of the Abilify adverse reaction. I'm happy she's feeling better but I was hoping this was a true recovery story. Hopefully she can get off her new med one day too and heal from it all. I'm 18 months off Klon in a bad wave. Let's all heal!
The problem with pssd though is there is NO cure. There are however a lot of snake oil salesman targeting people in their desperate state. I get what you're saying. Sometimes having some kind of life on something is better than absolutely a joyless life sober.
You can’t define somebody else’s recovery. She has obviously improved since the last interview, and thats what everybody in the community is looking for. If small global improvements while taking a drug to offer some relief while the body is still reeling from acute injury is not healing, then you will quickly find that you yourself will never be healed. We need to allow ourselves any relief we can get, and having people telling us our improvements aren’t “A true recovery” then we’ll all end up in the grave.
@@mitchellmccole8322 You're reading way wrongly into my comment. I don't have the energy to go back and forth. Read my comment again instead of being offended.
Parnate is not a benign drug, the same goes for nardil, people go nuts like that from stopping/withdrawing, due to whatever neurotoxicity from both these drugs, doesnt happen with 9mebc, go figure.
@mobilezeronine2866 Parnate was awful. It gave me heart palpitations every day...I would sleep lunchtimes . I was on Nardil for a few years,then it became unavaiilable in South Africa. I would rather be on Nardil than these rubbish SSRI's
After watching this lady's struggle and her confusion over the changes to her feelings since taking magic mushrooms, I'd like to offer a different perceptive to the causes of her condition . In 1979, over 45 years ago, I had a bad experience to the effects of magic mushrooms and ended up with a condition now known as HPPD ,In short, a long-term and sometimes permanent changes to the brain . Her symptoms are quite a lot of them, which are extremely similar to HPPD . I question if the initial effects she experienced were symptoms of HPPD rather than anti phycotics . I'm just throwing this out there as I experience all the blunting fatigue and many other symptoms like after image and static that has lasted 45 years and is still present today, albiet the visual after image and static are much reduced but still present.. Just thoughts on something I'm extremely familiar with . Thanks Robbie
I did these on my own with herbs, MAOI inhibitor drugs are super powerful, but herbal ones tend to be more mild, and gentle. But still should avoid aged cheese
Yes. I agree. We need MAJOR MEDIA attention, and more than one story with someone famous, or well-known that hits big media news. It needs to be some consistent front page type big media to "stick" and make a difference.
Psychiatry is one giant mess! Somebody needs to speak out on the controversial practices going on. It is a societal epidemic. What is happening are crimes against humanity that should make the field abolished!!!
Yeah that's crazy. I feel like she would have been much better off without having taken any psych meds and her brain would have probably normalized on its own
It’s something I’m thinking about lately. I changed my diet to avoid histamine and I’m taking a DAO supplement with every meal to help break down histamine in the gut. It seems to help more than anything I’ve tried so far. I’m surprised to find out that the foods forbidden in MAOI treatment are almost the same foods forbidden in histamine intolerance. Could that have helped as well in case she has histamine intolerance? I’m just trying to guess… what if these medications (SSRI etc) affect blood brain barrier and when you already have histamine build up in the system, it starts to affect your brain like a toxic substance? She mentioned antibiotics briefly in her first interview. Antibiotics can trigger histamine intolerance syndrome because they cause dysbiosis in the gut. I think it’s something worth looking into.
@ histamine is produced in the gut, byproduct of protein breakdown. When you don’t have enough DAO enzyme to break histamine down, and your gut is leaky, you get this histamine circulating in your body. If your brain blood barrier is weak, it can get to your brain. There is huge link between your gut and the brain anyway. I don’t know much. But my new diet for histamine intolerance and gluten free and DAO supplement before meals seems to help a lot, and it’s been 2 weeks, though I’m not cured. I also take Ashwagandha and CBD oil. Doing all these things have helped a lot, though I’m not sure which of them… maybe all together? I don’t know much either and it’s a simplistic explanation, but I’m experimenting with what works and what doesn’t and it seems to be a lot better. I hope I can say I’m cured, I’m still far from that. PS. Histamine is also a neurotransmitter, in this situation basically you get too much of it, when your blood brain barrier is weak. It causes inflamation and it makes your blood brain barrier even weaker
Desoxyn would be an excellent dopaminergic Agent ( superior Libido increasement than with ANYTHING else... ! ) unfortunately not available outside U.S. (most closely acting is maybe DEXEDRINE .
It made me bite my tongue and lip in my sleep and would wake me up. I got off it quickly but suffered with biting for a long time since. I still occasionally have the problem, particularly as I drop off to sleep. I believe that it is the beginnings of tardive dyskinesia!
When she speaks about life becoming "killing time" that relates to quitting drugs. Her problem could be dopamine and it could be related to an addiction she isn't aware she has. A food addiction a sex addiction it could be anything. Or it could be low dopamine function. Just wondering if this has been explored. Addiction stigma prevents people from examining this possibility.
Don't all psychiatric drugs make you feel better at first? I think Parnate will have similar issues as Abilify: side effects, worn-off efficacy over time, and a difficult taper due to its withdrawal effects.
I dont think you understand the severity of how she was impacted. Hopefully this different drug doesnt have the same effect as the one that dammaged her.
Please be careful with long term use, especially if he isn't of the age to decide. As a person who is living with schizoaffective disorder and have been between 5-10 mg of abilify for 4 years, the long-term use has caught up to me and weighs down extremely hard, causing a disorder that is very difficult to cope with. I hid this reality from my family for years because I didn't want it to be true. Just a delusion, or so I hoped. But it's true. These medicines are by no means safe or effective for anyone long term, I've tried them all. Feel free to ask or reach out here in this thread if you need more words.
She looks remarkably more expressive in this episode compared to the previous one. So happy she’s making progress! Praise God.
Praise God???
What?!?
@lrnt6373 Praise her shedding of Psychiatrists and neurotoxic drugs!
I think the healing effects of being heard by someone who truly cares cannot be overestimated.
Yes - and by someone who will help with lifestyle changes and with the setting of new goals!
@@stevekaylor5606 Very true, but such a helpful person need not be a therapist.
I ought to have included that the healing effects of being heard by someone who truly cares AND understands what you are going through cannot be overestimated.
@@kismet-o6k Yes! Someone you can confide in - who will help guide improvements. Whereas, a licensed & credentialed Therapist may bring in a Psychiatric Evaluator - for then Labeling, neurotoxic drugs, etc.!
@@kismet-o6k We weren't able to..
@@stevekaylor5606 Really? And why was that?
I'm so happy she has improved. Her original story was very upsetting and heart breaking.
'Psychiatry is sincerity, fraud, force and financialization!' - Thomas Szasz
There are many many so severe adverse reactions stories like jess on communities.. Many people are very sick with severe cognitive issues to the point of dementia and many symptoms! What jess experienced is not so rare!
Am so glad Jess got better! She truly deserves it!
Thank you Jess. So glad you are healing.
Wishing all psych patients speed recoveries
Sending love to this beautiful young woman for continued healing from these horrible effects.
I was also thinking that she is doing better because of natural healing occurring and it's probably not just due to the new medication she has been trying. She looks so much better in this video and I noticed she even smiled. In the last video she was seemed like a shell of herself (understandably). I am glad she is doing better. My heart broke for her when I watched the first video. It's so horrifying what happened and horrible she was given that abilify which was basically forced upon her. Even though she had some issues after taking the mushrooms and weed, I thinks eh would have been better off without any psych meds and she would have probably eventually normalized with time. It's pretty clear it was the abilify that really messed her up
Thanks again Jess. It's good to see you again talking about your experience and keeping us updated
Thank you for sharing your story. I really felt it when you said you would of rather gone to prison. Unfortunately ive done both and youre not wrong. The stigma of needing mental heath care is intense. We need more people like yourself who have the courage to share and to really dig for new ways to heal. I hope you continue to heal and rebuild your life. Thanks again.
I watch as much of your content as I can. It is amazing how much I learn from your guests. My daughter is currently going through a lot of what Jess is going through I remember seeing Jess in the part 1. Iam so thankful for her insight into what is going on in her mind. She brilliantly explains everything what a smart girl! Extremely helpful for Iam caring for my daughter and my daughter doesn’t always have words for what is going on. Thank you❤
Thank you Jess! I have Emotional Blunting, didn’t have any idea on what it was called. I couldn’t convey in words what was going on. I am not good with words but your descriptors where what made my husband finally say I get it. So thank you for giving me the words I couldn’t find!
I am so glad this video helped you In that way 🫂 i know how hard it is to share your symptoms/experiences with a loved one or doctor
It's almost impossible
I went through the same thing at my worst, and i couldn't find words or anything to explain to my family
Stay strong 🙏 I hope you find a solution to your blunting
My son suffered after they forced 400mg Abilify Maintenna. He could not eat , sleep or talk. He still cannot articulate what happened because they still have him drugged on other drugs.
After a psych stay, they randomly injected him with 400mg Abilify Maintenance. For 2 weeks he could not sleep, eat, talk or stop moving. He suffered severe akathasia- although I did not know what that was at the time. He paced constantly or rocked back from one foot to the other. He was obviously suffering horribly and they blamed the label they gave him. His all started from smoking spice.
But after 2 weeks, he was arrested for doing something completely out of character- no one was hurt - but he was arrested. It’s a horrific story. Yes, he spent time in jail, but that was a much better place than a psych ward as she mentioned. Prisoners have rights. People in psych wards have zero rights and there is zero accountability on these so called “professionals “ who harm and abuse people in the psych wards. They have severely traumatized him. Jail did not traumatize him whatsoever. He is good at keeping to himself and out of trouble.
The hospitals overdosed him on multiple Haldol/ativan injections- then were letting him die in isolation. Until my husband and I saw him dying- and I described that before under another video. I had to demand medical intervention and he landed in CV-ICU with respiratory failure, kidney injury, rhabdomyolysis and more. They had to work on him for over an hour to stop vital organ shutdown and death. If I had not seen him dying, he would be dead
Then he was beaten multiple times by staff! He’s over 6 feet tall and strong and was drugged to the max and scared. And I have been banned from seeing him at times. He lost an eye in a psych ward once. And more.
The worst of it started with that 400mg injection of Abilify Maintenna. Now he seems stuck in the system! I do all I can to keep him out of abusive hospitals. He is now so drugged up that he is in bed most all the time since 2022. He has tried to just jump off their drugs before and he was forced off CT by a p-doc once. Both times landed him in the torture ward with more labels and more drugs.
Dr Josef- how can I help my son??? They have manipulated him with their drugs. I could even prove that. They wanted him gone because I saw what they did when they tried to kill him. Tried many times to put him away in state hospital where he would die.
He is heavily drugged now. No life. This is also so EVIL! Destroying a young man’s life.
So sorry for what your son went through. Most of the time psychiatric hospitals make things a lot worse. They add more pain to the person that’s already in pain.
Our experience:
-Forced medications and over-medicating.
-Lack of communication between staff and family members, basically keeping us in the dark.
-Contradicting information from nurses and doctors (staff could not get their stories straight).
- We know physical abuse occurs.
-Patients lose their rights and their sense of self-worth is stripped away.
-Staff can easily make-up or change a story when they deal with a patient who can’t defend themselves. It’s easy to blame a patient who’s “out” of his/her mind.
-Monitoring phone call and not allowing cell phones to be used.
-Not allowing family to visit.
-A lot of these doctors have such an ego. They’re not willing to entertain alternative ways of helping a patient get better. They refused to look at underlying medical issues, such as metabolic health. As a matter of fact, they feed patients some of the worst foods and that’s across-the-board with all hospitals.
When patients go into the psychiatric hospital, they, a lot of times, come out traumatized and are like zombies due to amount of drugs that were given to them.
I know not all doctors, nurses or staff are bad. Many have good intentions. I also understand that working in a facility such as a mental ward can be very difficult and stressful. There’s got to be a different set up. Our mental health system is outdated and completely broken.
Move. If you have money and especially if you have a skill or a career, come to Romania. Psichiatry here is still the same bullshit, but it's much easier to keep your son out of hospital by simply signing him out of of the hospital, everybody speaks english here and realestate is cheap. Plus, everyone will kiss the ground you walk on, as an american.
Did your son have NMS? That’s what it sounds like. My son had NMS from forced Haldol. He almost died, and then developed excited catatonia. He recovered but it took years and getting him off almost all meds is what worked. Josef is his doctor.
@@TheDude-w5l sounds nice but hard to believe. My husband’s family came here from Romania.
@@Mmortars I believe it was NMS. I know it harmed his health. I have no one to help taper him off. Cannot afford Dr Josef.
Thank you so much for speaking out Jess! Your story and this channel has made me feel a lot less alone. Sending well wishes your way
I am sorry that you had to deal with that as well. I lost my entire freaking family and the courts just said I was borderline. They don’t even know what all I went through. My family does not believe in medication injury I feel like I live in another universe.
Jen, how are you? Idk if you remember me but you are such a wonderful soul, I lost all my devices which is why I stopped responding but maybe we can get back in touch.
Bless you Jess! I’ve been in the damn “community”for too damn long. These F-in things destroy you. You will heal, but so many stolen moments.
Wow, a lot of this remind me of when I was her age, I went through very similar things back then from anti psychotics, half I had forgotten about. She is looking really positive going forward, over the years I've had a lot of issues with discontinuing psychiatric medications, the worst one was catatonia which lasted for around 6 months or so at around her age.
Things can and do get better, it's good she is very careful about what she is choosing as medication now and making really informed decisions, we don't usually get that and a lot of times 20 psychiatrists will have 20 different ideas, it can be a minefield to navigate.
Excellent interview. Great effort to both.
this story is why i dont think im ever going to a doctor for a bad trip. Id rather have the hatman attack me than loose myself.
6:36- isn´t it sick, that we have to say disclaimers and make apologies in advance before we say something negative about psychiatry (or if we dare to give some advice or experiences to people that was harmed by criminals in white coats (doctors))?
Oh joy in my heart! A turn for the better!
Only once in my life have I caused a traffic collision, and it was during my half a week on ariprazole.
Most of the near dozen psych meds I've tried did nothing to me at all, good or bad. A couple have helped.
But this one erased my "autopilot" functions so that I drove carelessly into a roundabout and got rear ended as a result. Nobody was harmed, but I'm never touching that drug again.
This medication is very dangerous, I ended up in the emergency room 3 weeks after taking it!
After suffering severe side effects from antidepressants for years and still being depressed, they offered me antipsychotics for treatment resistant depression. Hell no!
After seeing this, I am happy about the decision that I made. I hope you have a speedy recovery ❤️🩹
Same, except I took the anti-psychotics that were prescribed to me (Seroquel, aka quetiapine). I've never felt worse in my entire life. I felt better when I was just depressed than when I took that garbage. (Also, it didn't fix my depression whatsoever.)
I am happy you never made that decision. I was give an antipsychotic without any consideration and I stopped. I am still in immense pain. I am thankful you don't have to feel this.
@@Hollyucinogenhave you recovered? It has been 8 weeks and I only took it once and I feel so much worse. Please I need help.
@@konstantinossohos2349 I dunno, maybe I'm weird because my body does seem to clear things out unusually fast, but it typically does get better eventually. There are some things that you can do; like drinking green tea, I've heard, helps clear things out of your body. There's light at the end of the tunnel, I promise.
@@konstantinossohos2349 I have indeed. I think for me part of the reason why I recovered so quickly is because I also just happen to have an autoimmune disorder, so my immune system is always "on"; my body naturally cleanses itself of bacteria/viruses/toxins more quickly than a regular persons'. I can't promise you that this will help, but maybe try eating some foods that boost your immune system; and green tea is usually good for ridding the body of toxins too. Intermittent fasting also boosts the immune system, so you could also try that.
Same. I was strong armed to take Abilify and it ruined my life. I almost didn't survive the process.
Can totally relate, sounds like what happened to me coming off of benzos
They need to invent better anti depressants, I mean people who are already feeling vulnerable can’t afford to feel worse with side efffects for weeks or ones that make people feel worse. It’s madness
That's why I never took Gabapentin, because surprisingly the doctor actually TOLD me that it might bring mental problems in the future.
Unfortunately mine did not and shes a naturalpath. Its a mess
MAOI really helps with depression for me even i have pssd
I got akathesia from the injectable. Can we get recompense?
Dr. Josef or James Davies should Head a Mental Health Accountability Board. Erie County, in NY has an Accountability Board!
Not feeling sleepy: may be depletion of ALA alpha linoleic acid (omega 3). Some drugs affecting the brain can use up more ala.
Almost 40k subscribers! Kinda scary when you think about it.
Do a video on Wellbutrin
My friend was a meth addict and she said Welbutrin was similar to the effects of meth and that's why she would go to the hospital to get prescribed welbutrin. So she didn't really take it because of her mental condition, she took it for the side effects of that drug which mimicked meth.
Crap makes me agitated and paranoid. Gave a guy I knew seizure and deaf one ear. For some it helps. Just scary
How about clozapine. Could you talk about that please?
Почему вы не подадите в суд на врачей которые не правильно вас лечили такими опасными препаратами? Психиатрию нужно запретить пока не будут тщательно расследованы подобные случаи и причины.
Entirely new guidelines must be set in Mental Health - e.g. agapeic love is mental health, so why not coach this?!
Полностью согласна, что психиатрию нужно запретить, хотя бы малую психиатрию. Столько жертв пострадало от так называемой фармакотерапии, но психиатры продолжают травить население. Я уверена, множество суицидов и последующих обострений психических заболеваний может быть связано с побочными эффектами препаратов, но эти врачи, конечно же, не признают этого, так как для них все симптомы могут быть объяснены только болезнью, а не эффектом лекарств, которые не пойми как работают.
@@amiinia Yes! - it's very much market and finance driven, wherein dysfunctional or misdiagnosed people are put into the system's Labeled places!
This is not Russia. Russia is full of normal people.
everyone's anhedonia is different, but what is known is that its incredibly disabling and life ruining. Some are caused by psychiatric drugs, some caused by traumas or other mitochondrial dysfunction issues. Science owes it to its patients to create effective treatments that move the needle for people, not BS drugs that further cause these issues or don't do much of anything. I know that anhedonia and negative symptoms are exceptionally complicated almost impossible issues but these things are untouched and people live in complete disability. People are fed up. Anhedonia for some people can open the door to entirely brand new psychiatric disorders which go on to further ruin peoples lives. This industry must do better. MUST
my mom's been on this for a long time. I think she has adverse reactions but doesn't notice it.
The stigma from being in a psych ward is REAL
I experienced both healing and permanent PSSD. Stopping my medication abruptly gave me concussion-like symptoms, followed by protracted withdrawal syndrome, which actually started to help me heal. However, when I mistakenly took an herb that affects neurotransmitters, I turned my protracted withdrawal into permanent PSSD.
In my opinion, there’s a big difference between the two. PSSD is long-lasting and doesn’t show signs of recovery, unlike protracted withdrawal.
Excusee, what was the herb that you took please? My son takes chamomile. I hope it's helping him
@@karenthorpe4387 It was a strong natural herb that works like an SSRI, as I read lately... It's Panax ginseng. It has a lot of reports of adverse reactions, as I see after. Seems unlikely chamomile caused such a severe setback, but of course, no one is sure of anything anymore!
@@karenthorpe4387 It was a strong natural herb that works like an SSRI, as I read lately... It's Panax ginseng. It has a lot of reports of adverse reactions, as I see after. Seems unlikely chamomile caused such a severe setback, but of course, no one is sure of anything anymore!
@@karenthorpe4387panax ginseng!
I am also curious what herb it was. Was it possibly kratom? That messes up a lot of people (myself included) who weren't even on psych meds to begin with. So I could only imagine the damage it would do when you are already injured form psych meds
Question. Does lacking dopamine cause extensive sleepiness?
I am thinking so but curious too
It’s really hard to tell the difference between helping and hurting. I thought klonopin was helping my symptoms. I only realized what it had done when I pulled it away. The same thing happened when I tried to treat pain. It felt like it was helping me. I was working more and more and rejoining life. Eventually, I started to worsen and had to come off. When I came off, I was always worse than when I went back on trying to save my life. It was so deceptive to have a period where it helped. Helping is hurting. That’s the problem. Feeling good comes as a reaction to a neurotoxic molecule. That’s how “medications” work. They should remind more people of that.
This time, the klonopin cessation did something and nothing really works the same. Most of those tricks were working less and less.
That's true. I take tha' sh** 3 years ago, in the meantime I was misdiagnosed with Schizophrenia during another 2 years before and changed from psychiatrist. Twist and shiver as hell every extremities just in the time your brain is going to "turn down the wale button" is no goddamn joke. That pill was so dangerous than I... Gotta to came back to Olanzapine. I asked him for Abilify 'cause sexual dysfunction (horrendous experience with a partner who break up with me after... You know... Can't have my erection). I started with 10 mg of Abilify and this chemical seemed to act directly in the pineal gland or some part really really important in the nervous system! Goddamn. Oh, no... No... Please no... That was so awful experience... Can't sleep during 2 days because of the shivering with my eyes closed and deeply about to sleep... That was a torture. A truly torture. So... During my 24 yo, can't maintain a relationship... Can't even sleep... Have headaches... Now I'm with 5 different medications by this diagnosis of Non Specified Personality Disorder (F60.9) and doing more than good.
I got some bad mushrooms and blacked out. my parents called the cops and had me arrested for it so I was threatened to prison while in benzo injury which was the reason I tried it.
Don't abuse drugs.
@@rdallas81wait....what? This is what you have to say? You know, most people dont abuse drugs for fun. Usually it is a need to disconnect from trauma, pain, sadness etc. Really, if you have nothing helpful to say, just restrain so people are not made to have even bigger guilt.
@jasonsenator6144 i hope it will get better and your life will get better in terms of what you said. Best wishes!
@@rdallas81I dont think you grasped the entirety of what they said, they tried it do to meds they were prescribed messing them up
The meds cause problems when not abused esp if taken off them. Unless you only meant 🍄
Cymbalta Literally killed most my Dopamine receptors, now i live in dysphoria and stimulants dont work for me. Drug induced BRAIN DAMAGE ~ I have same symptoms after cymbalta... For me the only drug that helps are opioids for some reason..
Because they work on your opioid receptors. You can burn out your dopamine receptors and still get high off opioids- I know from my former life!
You're an addict.
My grandmother and mom offered me some sleep medications which they also use for antidepressants and I said no, because any antidepressants are bad for you. Antidepressants is THEE WORST medications that they can offer a patient.
The last ones you mentioned aside from keta lozenges are main that help depression but keta more and obv would not have med for pain for depression
@sarahjaye4117 Depression really means 'in a Depressed state'. I had a spinal cord injury a few months ago and decided to stop taking muscle relaxers about 2 weeks ago. After that I couldn't sleep and felt agitated, with frequent urination. There was nothing really wrong with my brain, but I was unable to do things like I normally did. I started taking the muscle relaxers again, and Lo and Behold they helped me sleep longer and since I was well rested I was able to do more things again and my skin started healing and stomach cramps were less painful. Sometimes people just have unrecognized pain that has to be managed. Another time a few years ago, I took a strong pain reliver, percocet, and I was so relaxed that I was able to talk more about painful situations in my life. I would consider unrecognizable body pain as a type of Depression. Because it doesn't stem from the brain, it stems from the body.
If I could go back to the first day I ever took this pill it was at the insistence of a dentist to calm me down and because he said he could not get my mouth open wide enough with severe TMJ and you know the hospital don't agree with that pill for TMJ at all. They suggest a gum shield or night retainer
Abilify at dentist??? Ugh
Wonder if that was instead of a benz
My son was injured invitro my entire pregnancy from abilify
How does this happen?
A trend toward the MAID Act in Canada!
Which part happen?
@@Forgottenworlds777 1st - give someone a disease like Label, which has been clerked-in from DSM-6, 2nd - neurotoxic drugs, 3rd - keep him as a cash cow !
would it be dangerous to try remedies like l-dopa (dopamine?) or 5htp (serotonine?) or would they work? someone also said that pssd be more about central nervous system rather than a problem of single sensory nerves
I’ve been in abilify for 4years i think. As injection. Is my life over now?
I feel rather okey, ive started on escitalopram also, a week ago, i feel tired but i believe i will get better.
This scares me alot but i feel okey. I exercise, eat and drink
Nothing should ever be injected. Everytime I don't feel well I give myself a laxative to poop everything out, and I would feel better. But with an injection you cannot do that, you will continue to be sick for months until that injection wears off
Who are those two people she mentioned? Ancient peacock and baylisa? How do you spell their names, which sites are they on?
How long did it say it took her to notice any improvement?
It took me about a month to notice any changes after starting Parnate
@ Ok, thank you. Hope you continue to improve.
@dalefrank3713 thank you 🙏 I hope the best for you as well
@@S-H-A-R-E-DIf a drug takes more than 12 hours to work then it DOESN'T work! The drug is pointless. You cannot wait a month for something to work, that's so ridiculous.
Paxil and klonopin cold turkey 15 months ago. still lost the ability to feel tired and anhedonia
Could you renew the discord link? I'd love to join. Thanks.
She didn't recover though. She's just on another med that is masking the symptoms of the Abilify adverse reaction. I'm happy she's feeling better but I was hoping this was a true recovery story. Hopefully she can get off her new med one day too and heal from it all. I'm 18 months off Klon in a bad wave. Let's all heal!
The problem with pssd though is there is NO cure. There are however a lot of snake oil salesman targeting people in their desperate state. I get what you're saying. Sometimes having some kind of life on something is better than absolutely a joyless life sober.
You can’t define somebody else’s recovery. She has obviously improved since the last interview, and thats what everybody in the community is looking for. If small global improvements while taking a drug to offer some relief while the body is still reeling from acute injury is not healing, then you will quickly find that you yourself will never be healed. We need to allow ourselves any relief we can get, and having people telling us our improvements aren’t “A true recovery” then we’ll all end up in the grave.
@@mitchellmccole8322 You're reading way wrongly into my comment. I don't have the energy to go back and forth. Read my comment again instead of being offended.
Parnate is not a benign drug, the same goes for nardil, people go nuts like that from stopping/withdrawing, due to whatever neurotoxicity from both these drugs, doesnt happen with 9mebc, go figure.
@mobilezeronine2866 Parnate was awful. It gave me heart palpitations every day...I would sleep lunchtimes . I was on Nardil for a few years,then it became unavaiilable in South Africa. I would rather be on Nardil than these rubbish SSRI's
After watching this lady's struggle and her confusion over the changes to her feelings since taking magic mushrooms, I'd like to offer a different perceptive to the causes of her condition . In 1979, over 45 years ago, I had a bad experience to the effects of magic mushrooms and ended up with a condition now known as HPPD ,In short, a long-term and sometimes permanent changes to the brain . Her symptoms are quite a lot of them, which are extremely similar to HPPD . I question if the initial effects she experienced were symptoms of HPPD rather than anti phycotics . I'm just throwing this out there as I experience all the blunting fatigue and many other symptoms like after image and static that has lasted 45 years and is still present today, albiet the visual after image and static are much reduced but still present.. Just thoughts on something I'm extremely familiar with . Thanks Robbie
Not to be rude or discount you, but everything she described sounds so very much worse than HPPD.
38:00 what is the discord? Can I join it?
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What’s the name of the discord group?
I did these on my own with herbs, MAOI inhibitor drugs are super powerful, but herbal ones tend to be more mild, and gentle. But still should avoid aged cheese
I wish I had some
Doctor please Reach out to someone on a higher place/rank some famous person
Yes. I agree. We need MAJOR MEDIA attention, and more than one story with someone famous, or well-known that hits big media news. It needs to be some consistent front page type big media to "stick" and make a difference.
Psychiatry is one giant mess! Somebody needs to speak out on the controversial practices going on. It is a societal epidemic. What is happening are crimes against humanity that should make the field abolished!!!
Yeah exactly!
Why???
They gave her a 1 month depot injection of ability for a 8 hour dose of psilocybin ?
Yeah that's crazy. I feel like she would have been much better off without having taken any psych meds and her brain would have probably normalized on its own
It’s something I’m thinking about lately. I changed my diet to avoid histamine and I’m taking a DAO supplement with every meal to help break down histamine in the gut. It seems to help more than anything I’ve tried so far.
I’m surprised to find out that the foods forbidden in MAOI treatment are almost the same foods forbidden in histamine intolerance. Could that have helped as well in case she has histamine intolerance? I’m just trying to guess… what if these medications (SSRI etc) affect blood brain barrier and when you already have histamine build up in the system, it starts to affect your brain like a toxic substance? She mentioned antibiotics briefly in her first interview. Antibiotics can trigger histamine intolerance syndrome because they cause dysbiosis in the gut. I think it’s something worth looking into.
Hi can you explain more about histamine with regards to your post?
I have insomnia and depression bad
@ histamine is produced in the gut, byproduct of protein breakdown. When you don’t have enough DAO enzyme to break histamine down, and your gut is leaky, you get this histamine circulating in your body. If your brain blood barrier is weak, it can get to your brain. There is huge link between your gut and the brain anyway. I don’t know much. But my new diet for histamine intolerance and gluten free and DAO supplement before meals seems to help a lot, and it’s been 2 weeks, though I’m not cured. I also take Ashwagandha and CBD oil. Doing all these things have helped a lot, though I’m not sure which of them… maybe all together? I don’t know much either and it’s a simplistic explanation, but I’m experimenting with what works and what doesn’t and it seems to be a lot better. I hope I can say I’m cured, I’m still far from that.
PS. Histamine is also a neurotransmitter, in this situation basically you get too much of it, when your blood brain barrier is weak. It causes inflamation and it makes your blood brain barrier even weaker
Desoxyn would be an excellent dopaminergic Agent ( superior Libido increasement than with ANYTHING else... ! ) unfortunately not available outside U.S. (most closely acting is maybe DEXEDRINE .
I hate abilify
Same
It made me bite my tongue and lip in my sleep and would wake me up. I got off it quickly but suffered with biting for a long time since. I still occasionally have the problem, particularly as I drop off to sleep. I believe that it is the beginnings of tardive dyskinesia!
Exactly. It’s hard to trust doctors. The system in the US is designed around capitalism - not healthcare.
Hard to trust a doctor these days...
When she speaks about life becoming "killing time" that relates to quitting drugs. Her problem could be dopamine and it could be related to an addiction she isn't aware she has. A food addiction a sex addiction it could be anything. Or it could be low dopamine function. Just wondering if this has been explored. Addiction stigma prevents people from examining this possibility.
Well if its after the abilify its dopamine and thats what she took
I'm not sure how you concluded tis could be an addiction problem when it's pretty clear she has experienced a medication injury
@@brit4294 I don't believe everything I see on the internet. Sorry.
It is good she is back on her drugs and working with her doctors.
What?!?
@@Ddggg5 we’re literally in the twilight zone now
Don't all psychiatric drugs make you feel better at first? I think Parnate will have similar issues as Abilify: side effects, worn-off efficacy over time, and a difficult taper due to its withdrawal effects.
No, actually most of them will likely make you feel worse for at least a few weeks, many times much longer and sometimes permanently.
I dont think you understand the severity of how she was impacted. Hopefully this different drug doesnt have the same effect as the one that dammaged her.
You cant really compare MAOI's and anti psychotics. Latter are notorious for causing severe harm.
@@mr.giggles4995or years
My son has schizoaffevtive. Abilify has helped him. 5 MG
Please be careful with long term use, especially if he isn't of the age to decide. As a person who is living with schizoaffective disorder and have been between 5-10 mg of abilify for 4 years, the long-term use has caught up to me and weighs down extremely hard, causing a disorder that is very difficult to cope with. I hid this reality from my family for years because I didn't want it to be true. Just a delusion, or so I hoped. But it's true. These medicines are by no means safe or effective for anyone long term, I've tried them all. Feel free to ask or reach out here in this thread if you need more words.
Terrible.
This is incredibly misleading. I am an MD. This man has been a struggle for a while now.
Well. As my experience its hi its right. Maby you guys need truble. Also objective study says the same
38:29 Auntie Peacock? Anti Peacock 🦚
I didn't find anything can someone throw me a bone?
Angie Peacock