M.2 NVME SSD Drive Repair - Is data Recovery possible?
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Alex nice to see your best worker (daughter) pop in and give you a hug and a kiss, treasure those moments mate.
Alex is like the Bruce Lee of fixing all sorts of hardwares lol , he has the mind, the will, the understanding, the calmness, the persistence, and knowledge of being able to repair all sorts of tech devices and records his repairs with nothing to hide nor be ashamed of; most importantly he always displays his special skills on the "art of soldering" which he does it like its nothing with precise and accurate hand eyed coordination. give us the chance to try to solder and majority of us would fail doing it. Alex can repair what chuck norris cant.
Thank you for keeping it up with the repairs. I wish Louis Rossmann would get back to these kinds of videos.
13:08 what a great Dad. You are an inspiration. You work hard but you don't forget the importance of family
That is not just a capacitor, it is a feed-through capacitive filter.
what is the difference?
Difference?
"The feedthrough capacitor is a three-terminal capacitor that is used to reduce high frequencies. The feedthrough capacitor, unlike regular three-terminal capacitors, is directly installed on the metal panel, resulting in a lower grounding inductance and a negligible effect on the lead inductance. As a result, the feedthrough capacitor provides good filtering. The better the electromagnetic interference suppression effect, especially for high-frequency electronic equipment, the better."
In this case 4 pins because of side pads are gnd as u can see on the layout. Just google this: "murata smd feed-thru filter" (murata well known producer.
Example: NFM3DCC223R1H3L
So its a short with additional caps to gnd inside a chip capacitor.
I would swear it was a flux capacitor.
I just bought your hot air soldering station and fume extractor! So far I Hiroshima’d 2 PCBs (not important ones) and successfully desoldered and resoldered another PCb now that I’ve got the feel for it. Awesome tools! I was blown away when the hot air automatic turned off when I put it in the holder, super awesome
This is almost like watching sports, better even, because you create solutions to problems and make a real change. Each time you give us that smile of satisfaction it's like gaining a point and every time we see the not satisfied face it's a struggle. What a journey each time!
It's a capacitive filter as other have said - the metal points on the side indicate that's the difference. The 2LZ chip I bet is the issue, but I see what you see with that faint line across the main IC - worth a shot though!
Watched the last part like 5x now and i swear i see a faint crack line on the main ic also
Tagging on, the drive might be working already but the file system might be not readable by Windows. Macs have issues with these external NVMe enclosures. The fix is to use a USB-C Mac and put a USB hub in between, then it should be recognized.
@@GarbageGoober-pf8wm I don't think the file system should matter as that USB error is more generic and related to the device itself. In computer management, I think it would show up as a "RAW" partition if Windows couldn't tell what the file system was.
@@kunka592 yes and annoyingly ask to format it
Great
I'm grateful that people like you do this, I do this for years but not with micro SMD, my eyes won't be able to see that anymore and for the years to come, I'm not planning to buy microscopes and such for my time being. And I think you have to dig deeper in the rabbit hole to get better results.
يعني انا كل ده متابعم ومعرفش انك عربي حمد الله ع السلامة ياراجل انا من مصر
I agree with the comments that it is a special inductor. Panasonic used these in its early plasma Tvs. That often shorted. Just short what you would normally expect to be the ends of the cap. That should restore supply voltage to the SSD chip unless the short was actually the black device that showed heat when voltage injection was made. It is likely a type of voltage regulator.
Missing your happy face after successful repair.
Appreciated your efforts.
Those 2LZ is probably just a common 1.8v LDO regulator needed for that sata drive to work, you can check the voltage on either pin 1 or 2 (close to the dot) at the other chip and compare it to the broken one; most DFN LDO has the output voltage at the 1st or 2nd pin, and the input at the opposite side.
as for the crack on the main chip... just prey it still works.
The 2LZ XC6103D530 is CMOS Voltage Detector that gives a signal after delay on power detected. There are two of them on the board. Why not compare the peripheral voltages for defect tracing?
Always a pleasure watching you do your "flux capacitor heat gun camera multi-tester beeping" magic 🎉
يعطيكو الف عافيه جميعاً ، احلى الكس واحلى تيم
Happy to see a fellow lebanese succeeding in the tech repair field wish you the best
The shorted cap probably caused the 2LZ chip to go bad. Hopefully the voltage didn't affect the NAND chip and you can fix it by replacing 2LZ.
State the obvious why dont you
@@ronnierobinson1502 The obvious? You can find hundreds of videos where Alex replaces a shorted cap and the device works and the short did not cause an damage.
the shorted band pass filter not a cap ...
I'm impressed that the manufacturers that make the devices you use, listen to your suggestions about specifications, and have the means to improve and meet their customers needs. This makes the products you sell the best in the market, and unique to NorthridgeFix.
Thank you for working on this for our client. Would it be helpful if we purchase a donor nvme to replace the 2lz chip?
The nvme drive that was dropped off alongside the nvme for recovery was not meant to be a donor nvme but rather to recover files onto.
Are you the actual customer? Why are you writing to him in youtube comments and not directly to his business regarding the thing you are paying for? Braindead.
من سنوات كثيره اتابعك انصدمت يوم سمعتك تتكلم عربي
I am addicted to these videos, but at first I felt like I was being questioned Based on his tone of voice 😂 Amazing skill to troubleshoot and solder 👍
Kudos to your wonderful assistants bringing you a beverage
The best scene was your daughter giving you a kiss!!❤ great job overall bro!
Another great and educational video. I hadn't seen one of those pass-through caps before. I need to read up on what they can do
Now 2LZ is defenetly some voltage regulator. Now what voltages does that NAND chip needs. 3.3V is already provided by motherboard, so its 1.8 or 1.2v. you can try injecting low volatge and raising it until it starts working and raise it a little higher so its stable.
Man this is a cool video, I had no idea you could fix these kinds of shorts.
My respect for you is strong. I watch as your family take priority above anything else well done my freinf
Can you make multiple videos on basics and other knowledge needed to repair things along with tips & tricks ?
I've been using ddrescue for years to recover mechanical hard drives. I've had it work even when Windows doesn't recognize a bad Windows formatted drive. Ddrescue doesn't care about the format - it just reads sectors/blocks and writes the data to an image file on another Linux drive. When it's done, you use it to write the image to a good drive. It will make a pass to read what it can with 3 retries. Then it tries smaller blocks to try to recover. In the end, you may have some files with missing data, but it will get everything possible regardless of format. It gives you a running status of what it read and how many errors it found. After the initial pass, the size of the errors (unreadable data) will go down as it reads smaller blocks and finds more data it can recover. I tried it once with a bad flash drive and although it tried the whole drive, it couldn't read anything. I suspected the memory chip was bad but I had no way to test it.
Yeah, it is actually one of 4 problems, one being corrupt filesystem. He should buy/use some software given he deals with data recovery.
Hmm, i re.ember norton doing an awesome suite of cjeap recpvrry tools back in the 90s, they even allowed you to read dead sectors.
@@unknownplayer9472 it can and I've done it using photorec. You need to corrupt just some sectors from partition table to make it unrecognizable, while all data sits on disk happily
It's not a capacitor, it's an L + C filter, what you checked should be conductive.
So him replacing with a regular cap would make the drive still not work then, correct? thanls
always nice to see recovery videos
There does look to be a diagonal crack over the drive, as you indicated.
unfortunately looks like crack. Game over :(
ما كنت اعرف . مفاجأة سارة. اخر عربي 🎉❤
2LZ chip is the issue, I gone through the same issue, lucky had the donor and get the data out for one of customer last week.
This has become a true mystery! I'm looking forward to the following up. I also see a few possibly helpful tips in the comment section (i.e. feed-through capacitor).
Patiently awaiting the next installment.
I wish i could be patient like you while you doing your job with the pcb
The problem i guess in that little ship
Thanks a lot for this videos iam watching you from Libya. Keep it up my master 😎😉
this is why i love hard drives. there are more easy things to check or replace than ssds.
it is possible that the drive is formatted for linux (i.e. steamdeck related or in EXT4, so it will not appear in windows or mac os) i've also experienced several external NVMe drive enclosures/readers that will not read a sata M.2 drive or only certain kinds of sata M.2 drives.
whatever the fault turns out to be, it's interesting to watch the repairs. you have steadier hands than I.
if its EXT4 or other linux format it will not show on windows, but it will not give USB drive is not recgonizable error
as far as I know, if windows cannot detect that type of formatting, it won't showing drive is not recognize, drive is not recognize is when you have a problem with your drive
Stop smoking nikoteen ull have stedy hands
I was thinking the same it's Linux formated
@@univera1111 it will still showed up in disk management
Alex can your adapter read NVME and Sata M.2 maybe that could be the issue why it's not reading it cause that's a Sata M.2
I didn't see you measure the cap outside the circuit, just the pads after removing it unless it was done off camera just to verify it was shorted, not question of poor marksmanship Anyway, good deduction and fault finding. You have gained much experience thus far and we can learn more from you.
excuse me
He did measure. Not the cap, but the board.
13:09 ما شاء الله 😍🌹🌹/ الْحَمْدُ لِلْــّٰـهْ. عندي نفس المشكلة بالضبط. احاول اصلحها بنفسي للأسف ما ادري انت بأي دولة! انا من سلطنة عمان.
انا عارف انك مسلم بس مكنتش اعرف انك بتتكلم عربي وباين طبعا انك سوري. تحياتي من بلدك الثاني مصر
I just finished watching the Steam Deck video and a new one pops up, nice! 😂
Hi Alex, are you sure that is a capacitor? Maybe its a inductor with those connection points in the sides...
Thanks for your videos, greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹
Portugal crlh!
@@minimylk 😂👍
it seems they are filtering capacitors. "feed-through capacitive filter"
Hi neighbour, can you please provide a contact ? Thank you
@@TechnicallyDude Hi Luis why do you need the contact?
You don't have to check for short for each capacitor at the same parallel circuits
Good work, we are :Kemal Canbaz elect.teacher studens :in Turkiye see,youre video Turkish langue writing,thanks ,wonderfull family
That drive appears to be a SATA SSD in M.2 form factor. Try the SSD on a motherboard; some USB to M.2 adapters are specific for NVMe or SATA.
The part number and text on the label say PCIe !
another great vid over a cuppa tea keep safe and well
ولله كنت حاسس انك عربي ..ربنا يديمكو لبعض يا مبدع استمر
i swear to god i didn't know you are Arabic!!, im watching you from 4 months love your videos very much
M.2 NVME SSD Drive Repair - Data Recovery Great Video Really Great
That tea looks so freaking good man
i was gonna ask you seem like a foreigner and not an american, assumed arabic ethnicity and realized i have nailed it when the little girl showed up. Regards to you sir ❤ assalamualayk
2LZ = *XC6103D530* = CMOS Voltage Detector
Voltage detector with coils ? I doubt that. It is some sort of switching voltage regulator as for sure that memory ic needs some other voltages than 3.3v and there are no others ic's that could do that on this board. Also datasheet for xc6103 says it should have 6 letters/numbers marking on chip.
I'm curious, how did you find that?
Hello, I have been following you from Rome for a long time, you are very good and very clear. For those who cannot afford a thermal imaging camera, you could show alternative methods thanks.
I've seen him use and explain isopropyl alcohol evaporation, their rosin atomizer pen and simply feeling for heat to detect shorted components.
Puoi usare anche il ghiaccio spray se fai attenzione... Però procurati una telecamera termica che serve.
Does the drive show up in BIOS if you connected directly to an m.2 slot on a motherboard? I have had situations where drives are encrypted or otherwise have weird driver issues that resulted in them displaying device not recognized, but I was still able to boot to them. I think it might have something to do with the fact that this is a sata M.2 plugged into an NVMe adapter, but I'm not sure.
Looks like you were having a good day 🙂
Alex really has a lot of capacity in fixing capacitors! ;-)
Are You From Lebanon? This is wonderful 😊
Alex buy a Jtag tools to read data from nand directly
Salute Idol, good greetings! from Philippines =)
When i had a data recovery project on a dead mac i had a hell of time even reading it i ended up using PXE windows on usb with pre installed tech tools. What ended up working was disk drill was able to recover 3 decades of photos from my grandmothers days as a kid in early 1940's.
Spinrite is tits. Cool about the photos!
it is a feed-through filter and is not a capacitor as it has been rightly pointed out in the comments, and it is not a short as it is a filter and will show continuity at both ends and is used for EMC filtering.
all love from Algeria 💜
What is the difference between a 4 point cap and a 2 point, normal capacitor?
I think there will be an additional ground layer to absorb high frequency emissions?
TDK says this: As the speed of application processors (CPU) or memory of smartphones and other devices increases, capacitors with lower ESL and higher capacities are necessary for suppression of voltage fluctuations or noise countermeasures for power supply ICs. TDK's t3-terminal Feedthrough MLCCs are low-ESL large-capacity capacitors that realize low impedance characteristics in wide bandwidth, and are best suited for such purposes. Power lines that conventionally consisted of multiple capacitors can be now realized in a smaller space, contributing to the reduction of substrate sizes and costs.
Need Part Two.
Patience child. Patience…
ياخي لنا الفخر انك عربي
Have nice day titcher
Alex again thumbs up for you, your years of experience made a good outcome for the ques it whas the cap.
that's a sata m.2. nvme is keyed differently with a single gap.
It was labeled PCIe Gen 3, the double key just indicates PCIe x2 lanes instead of x4 lanes.
It's an NVMe. The label says "toshiba kbg30zms512g", which is an NVMe drive.
Why do you measure all capacitors in parallel? if one is not shorted obviously the others cannot be.
Still learning myself that was exactly what i was wondering, but having seen a lot of his videos my guess would be that its faster to measure them all then to determine if they need to be measured 😆
Hello Alex, I've been a long time subscriber! Are you ever concerned that somebody would send you a drive with malware on it?
It isn't a concern when you have a Mac or pc with nothing on it and no network. Think of it as a spare PC that only had windows and only to use it to verify device detection and working properly. I do the same.
Alex, i suggest you measure the good ssd components on board and do a comparison between both.👍
Its a diff ssd.
It's not a NVMe SSD but just a mSATA SSD and the reason why it does not have any components on the back of it because a mSATA SSD follows SATA protocol which limits out the read/write speed of around 600MB/s which does not need a lot of components to pull that off. On the other hand, a NVMe SSD follows PCIe protocol which can go up to 14000MB/s of read/write speed if it's Gen 5.
uh, what you're saying is not correct. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2
Drive Model KBG30ZMS512G
@@mannotwiththeplan actually he IS correct. As soon as I saw that M type connector I knew it was a SATA type M.2.
The Part Number identifies it as as a PCIe 3.1 drive ! yes you can get SATA M.2 drives but this is not one of them.
No, it is not a SATA M.2 drive. Do check the specs of that model. It is a NVMe B&M key M.2 2230 type drive. Because of that, it may support both SATA and PCI-Ex.
بارك الله فيك
Great work Alex as always. I guess the easiest solution might be for the owner to purchase the exact same card for you to swap out the components.
That can be a gamble though since it's possible that another SSD of the exact same type uses different components.
@@Scitch87 probably best getting an eBay used drive that good provides images of the item
@@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse that might be a possibility but realistically there is no way any eBay listing has images that lets you see those components clearly.
@@Scitch87 Are you talking exactly about this on ebay?
You know, the label is still readable...
KBG30ZMS512G Toshiba BG3 Series 512GB TLC PCI Express 3.0 x2 NVMe M.2 2230 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
or
Toshiba BG3 CSSD 512GB NVME PCIE M.2 2230 TLC Internal Solid State Drive
capacity: 512GB
technology: TLC
communication/ lanes: PCI Express 3.0 x2
protocol: NVMe
slot: M.2
dimmension: 2230
something: Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
model (implies same PCB/ components, with little changes between versions, if the manufacturer isn't scammy): KBG30ZMS512G
That’s known as a balun capacitor normally around 50 pumps across them
What a great man you are!
Try checking the voltages around the component 2 LZ maybe it will give you some clues , I think it's a low voltage regulator.
This guy is one of my idols i currently have a hobby for collecting broken game consoles and flip them.the nvme ssd have a short life expectancy.I am not sure honestly but in their paper work it states their life expectancy is based on heavy use.I looked into the subject their only supposed to read and write so much before they die.but im sure im rong their looks like a voltage problem caused the ssd to die.
They sent you a spare for parts and didn’t even make sure it was the same brand? Just wow.
Not even the same type. LOL
Makes more sense for the data to be used for the recovered data, not for parts, I suspect that was the intention
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason that’s the thing, the brands are the most obvious thing on there!
I think they sent it to transfer the data to, not a parts donor.
Try swapping the 2 2LZ chips on that board and see if it works or the symptoms change.
Goood kids !!!! God bless you❤
Thanks!
Maybe try injecting voltage again to see if the 2LZ or storage chip gets hot.💡💡🤔🤔❓❓
13:15 - "Boba Tea - How lucky am I?"
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2LZ from the beginning of the video when you scratch him looks suspicious, is it any help to check again with thermal camera?
Sir my ssd sometimes shows up and sonetimes it disappers from windows as well as bios hlw to fix that please tell
Hello. Two notches is a M2 SATA not NVME .Tell me if i am wrong.
Hey there! I see there is an unsoldered USB port at the back of the SSD. Could you explain what could be the use of that port?
Always wondered if Ur a Lebanese now I am sure from the Ahla ou Sahla to Ur daughter, great video as usual, thx again.
If this was your daughter and your wife, just know you are the west father man! And you are lucky to have a bon tea!
Could be from a steam deck so Linux partition?
My thought too, is it perhaps ext3/ext4 that neither Windows nor macOS would be able to pick up on without a 3rd-party driver?
Northridge about 4 months ago I had the exact same thing happen. That same cap on the exact same Toshiba drive. Replaced from a donor Toshiba drive to have that cap blow right away. USB device not recognized as well. Would love to know the final result that you find. Need to recover that Toshiba drive.
What if the drive is heating quite a lot? Where is the problem? Chip or components?
i don't know if just illusion. but the side of the nand near the cap u changed is definitely cracked. worth checking
Yah I definitely see the line in the NAND chip. Looks like it could be a factory defective chip that was on its last leg and just decided to give out. The amount of heat coming from the small chip makes me think its got a communication issuse with the NAND chip. Inject voltage while the capacitor is removed maybe you'll discover something new.
I see burn marks 1:54 on the sticker and a burn below where the sticker peeled up too
I can buy you tea too. But its a hot one no milk.😂
One question. So I do not need to know the exact value for a broken capacitor if I want to replace it with a new one? Please answer my question someone. Thank you.
Thought you had that fix in the bag…. I also thought it might have been a different operating sys, then you tested :,(