I know I've been critical of some of your Iron Warrior related stuff before, but well done! The 4th is a tale of tragedy in it's own way, they were used, abused, isolated and forgotten to the point that they mostly all went mad. Fun fact, Perturabo was the one who first discovered the Eye of Terror and named it such as he felt it was watching him since childhood, but nobody else could see it in the sky. Still the best legion, pre or post heresy, in my opinion. Iron Within, Iron Without!
I dont think they are the best legion. I think they are the best interpretation of 40k war (most other legions read like comic book fights). Iron within is one of my favorite short stories and Barabus is a badass. Perturabo however is a perma-cunt. I wish Fulgrim would have killed him when he ascended and wore his soul like a condom at the after party. Sorry, thats alot of emotion over spacemens.
there is actually one iron Warrior who remained loyal to the Imperium during the Hrous heresy...and Guilliman decreed he was a hero of Great Heresy for sacrificing himself.
"Iron and Wrath. That is what moves us, and it is what it will destroy you. The Armored Thunder shall fall upon your cities, and your fields shall burn with our flames. WAR COMES TO YOU! NO REMORSE NOR PITY SHALL BE GIVEN! IRON AND WRATH!"
I like you. Your facts are on point and easily understandable, like i am able to tell where your paragraph ends. Not just reading off 40k wiki *ehem onemindsyndicate*
N F One Mind Syndicate irritates me a lot of the times because the SHEER, MIND-SHATTERING PROFUSION of _RIDICULOUS_ mispronunciations in nearly every video.
I feel the truly sad thing about the Iron Warriors was this: in the Unification Wars (emperor conquering earth with the legions) the 4th Legion/ Iron Warriors were actually one of the earliest founded and highly valued for their siege tactics. true the Imperial Fists also were an early legion and played a major part but the Imperial Fists doctrine was slightly different in the UW era. The Iron Warriors were truly the original siege masters...but i think we have to emphasise that even after they conquered places like Venus...they were not overly appreciated for their work. This only got worse as time went on and once Perturabo took charge they developed a very...from i have researched...odd and unique psychology. within their own legion they were close...strict and harsh...but close. however they really became bitter and hateful towards the other legions and imperium. Only the iron and their fellows mattered to them.
This is believed to be Dantioch's loyalist forces that showed up in Ultramar during the Ruinstorm, taken in by Gorillaman and made into their own "successor" chapter. The Silver Skull iconography comes from the face plate worn* by Dantioch, allegedly. (* worn = melted to face)
it's completely plausible, as it is common knowledge that the ultramarines found their numbers inexplicably increased more than a few times under "don't ask" circumstances. it's also suspected that the ultramarines absorbed the remnants of the 2nd&11th legions.
"From the fires of Betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word, the favored Son of Chaos, all praise be given to him. From those that would not heed we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the Boon of Pain, to turn the Galaxy red with the blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods." - Excerpt from the three hundred and forty-first epistle, Book of Lorgar
Iron within!Iron without! My first army in my steps into 40K universe,so good their history and drama. In spanish their warcry: Hierro por dentro!Hierro por fuera!
Why is it that the Imperial Fists are always the ones near annihilation. First the Iron Cage, then War of the Beasts, Next came that one siege against an Iron Warriors forge lead by Lysander, and currently Cadia (At least this is to my knowledge anyways). They're my favorite chapter which kinda piss me off how they receive the worst punishments while the Ultrasmurfs seem to always come out on top... >:c
Pyroskies The Iron Warriors' entire service is mass death for rulers who don't seem to care about them. At least people thank the Imperial Fists when they win after such losses, the Iron Warriors just get a painting of them dead in the mud while the Ultramarines receive the praise. There are some more fun stories about near total annihilation of loyalist forces. There are the Soul Drinkers. There is also my favorite loyalist chapter, the Lamenters, I highly recommend their story.
Actually in terms of my favorite "Loyalists get destroyed" story? Legion of the Damned by Rob Sanders. Absolutely my favorite Space Marine based story. There's only one nitpicky thing that might be wrong with the story. And even then I'm not sure if it's actually a nitpicky thing because you don't really think of it (Least I didn't) until I hit the end of the story.
Fun fact, Perturabo is (approximate spelling) named after Frater Perdurabo, the “Magickal Motto” (aka self-applied nick name) of the famous occultist Aleister Crowley.
I've read my Iron Warriors literature pretty closely. I believe Hrend sabotaged the Black Occulus out of martial integrity, a trait he shares with his Primarch. Their self worth is tied to their personal strength and sense of independence. The idea of borrowing strength from the ruinous powers would be like selling out. And then to owe chaos your life and soul in exchange for strength that you can't even legitimately call your own would be a fate worse than death. Hrend knew Perturabo would feel the same way (in fact he showed us this in Slaves to Darkness when he refused two such offers) so he decided to blow it all up.
The Iron Warriors are comparable to the World Eaters and Blood Angels in terms of ferocity and mercilessness when the walls come down. Before then, they'll gun you down.
The book Angel exterminatus tells of how kroger became part of the trident and is also one of the best hh books so far. Also the book "Pharos" is worth reading.
I''d back that up. AE is up there with the very best HH books. The horrific behaviour of the Emperor''s Children utterly in the thrall of Slaanesh now, a great portrait of Perturabo, the imagery on the dead Eldar world and Fulgrim's ascension - loved it.
I did not know that the named guys in Storm of Iron were all high ranking (Forrix, Kroeger, Barban Falk who is called just "The Warmsmith") in the Trident.
And what is strange in this legion,they are highly intelligent and build crazy warmachines that can match these from mars,but cant use advanced tactics and fight dumb with much losses.that doesnt fit right.
Tactica Imperialis its referenced in one of the Horus heresy books,when an old one device detonates and creates a flash momentarily brighter then the astronomicon,it briefly switches to the tyranid point of view,during which the author states "this is what they'd been looking for"
If your talkin about the pharos I don't think that confirms that and it's a dull theory anyway. More likely it was just a huge dinner bell rung for these interstellar preds
so.....there was a family in serbian history that had exsactly same black and yellow colours on their heraldary.......yaal know im gona make shield with their colours
How so? I'm sorry if this wasn't up to standard, but it is actually one of the longer Legion episodes (not by much, though) so I think I covered at least as much information
I do wonder how they took venus tho. its a damn hellhole. acid raining from the sky and everything man made send there has melted down in mere moments. thats a great place to put a vacation home thats for sure.
Have you read the Primarchs series book on Perturabo? It perfectly demonstrates that to call Perturabo a man-child is not just because it's a silly meme joke, but because it's actually true! He throws tantrums when things do not go how he wants them to go. Granted this is a Primarch so he doesn't lay on the ground kicking and screaming, he just kills the nearest living thing in the most brutal way imaginable while frothing at the mouth and bellowing like a mad bull. He's also a try hard.
Honsou is a cool guy, he loves his legion and doesn't afraid of anything.
Honsou Did Nothing Wrong
...heresy!
Arby n Chief
I know I've been critical of some of your Iron Warrior related stuff before, but well done! The 4th is a tale of tragedy in it's own way, they were used, abused, isolated and forgotten to the point that they mostly all went mad. Fun fact, Perturabo was the one who first discovered the Eye of Terror and named it such as he felt it was watching him since childhood, but nobody else could see it in the sky. Still the best legion, pre or post heresy, in my opinion. Iron Within, Iron Without!
DaJerk FromUrk I can never decide on my favorate, it between the iron warriors , thousand sons or the alpha legion.
I dont think they are the best legion. I think they are the best interpretation of 40k war (most other legions read like comic book fights). Iron within is one of my favorite short stories and Barabus is a badass. Perturabo however is a perma-cunt. I wish Fulgrim would have killed him when he ascended and wore his soul like a condom at the after party. Sorry, thats alot of emotion over spacemens.
there is actually one iron Warrior who remained loyal to the Imperium during the Hrous heresy...and Guilliman decreed he was a hero of Great Heresy for sacrificing himself.
WE ARE IRON MEN!
Idk which is more tragic, the reasons Perturabo and the IV fell or the betrayal that led to the fall of Magnus and the TS
"Iron and Wrath.
That is what moves us, and it is what it will destroy you.
The Armored Thunder shall fall upon your cities, and your fields shall burn with our flames.
WAR COMES TO YOU!
NO REMORSE NOR PITY SHALL BE GIVEN!
IRON AND WRATH!"
I like you. Your facts are on point and easily understandable, like i am able to tell where your paragraph ends. Not just reading off 40k wiki *ehem onemindsyndicate*
Shots fired!
One mind syndicate is weird man they get super Pervy with they’re vids like commissar gamza lol
N F One Mind Syndicate irritates me a lot of the times because the SHEER, MIND-SHATTERING PROFUSION of _RIDICULOUS_ mispronunciations in nearly every video.
I fucking despise Onemindsyndicate and his disgusting, stupid voice.
I feel the truly sad thing about the Iron Warriors was this: in the Unification Wars (emperor conquering earth with the legions) the 4th Legion/ Iron Warriors were actually one of the earliest founded and highly valued for their siege tactics. true the Imperial Fists also were an early legion and played a major part but the Imperial Fists doctrine was slightly different in the UW era. The Iron Warriors were truly the original siege masters...but i think we have to emphasise that even after they conquered places like Venus...they were not overly appreciated for their work. This only got worse as time went on and once Perturabo took charge they developed a very...from i have researched...odd and unique psychology. within their own legion they were close...strict and harsh...but close. however they really became bitter and hateful towards the other legions and imperium. Only the iron and their fellows mattered to them.
they have a successor chapter called the Silver Skulls. I know they are "supposedly" the successor chapter of the Ultra Marines but I doubt it
This is believed to be Dantioch's loyalist forces that showed up in Ultramar during the Ruinstorm, taken in by Gorillaman and made into their own "successor" chapter. The Silver Skull iconography comes from the face plate worn* by Dantioch, allegedly. (* worn = melted to face)
DaJerk FromUrk alright thanks for the information
Matt jvhggbbbhbbbbbbhh
I don't believe there are any successor chapters from Traitor Legions. At least not officially. People make up rumors, but nothing clear.
it's completely plausible, as it is common knowledge that the ultramarines found their numbers inexplicably increased more than a few times under "don't ask" circumstances. it's also suspected that the ultramarines absorbed the remnants of the 2nd&11th legions.
Of the Traitor Legions, I choose to serve the Iron Warriors
YES! Finally my favorite Legion!
Matthew Sinclair
heresy?
"Perturabo digs holes"
I just read storm of iron. It was one of the best 40k books I've read. The iron warriors are pretty interesting. HONSOU is the new warmaster
No, he isn’t
Warsmith
@@paulprimus1666thanks.
Imagine if the Death Korps and these guys met during their prime
Branston Torr oh boy. That would be a sight.
Immagine using hundreds of deathkorp as traitors/cultists with iron warriors mmmmh
Your fortifications will weep at the thought of such an alliance
This wuld be the best lovestory in all of literature xD
Rogal Dorn says you 😂
The Iron Warriors always were one of my favorite Chaos. Tied only with the Night Lords.
I'm a Word Bearers man myself
Blood Raven
Keep your faith then, son of Lorgar. See how long faith can last against the iron wall.
"From the fires of Betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word, the favored Son of Chaos, all praise be given to him. From those that would not heed we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the Boon of Pain, to turn the Galaxy red with the blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods."
- Excerpt from the three hundred and forty-first epistle, Book of Lorgar
Blood Raven
Damn that ADB giving the Word Bearers a sympathetic backstory.
Iron within!Iron without! My first army in my steps into 40K universe,so good their history and drama. In spanish their warcry: Hierro por dentro!Hierro por fuera!
The Iron Warriors are not “Almost” comparable to the World Eaters and Blood Angels in close combat, they ARE comparable.
Ayyy Dantioch! That illustration is awesome.
Check out the artists in the description, go give them the credit they deserve!
Good stuff
Perturabo digs holes.
Storm of iron is still one of the best black library books
Why is it that the Imperial Fists are always the ones near annihilation. First the Iron Cage, then War of the Beasts, Next came that one siege against an Iron Warriors forge lead by Lysander, and currently Cadia (At least this is to my knowledge anyways). They're my favorite chapter which kinda piss me off how they receive the worst punishments while the Ultrasmurfs seem to always come out on top... >:c
You think they were close to death? Wait until you see the next Legion we cover...
The Salamanders going from a total of about 80,000 to 700 in a single battle on Istvaan V?
Oh I'm gonna love the next episode. :3
Pyroskies The Iron Warriors' entire service is mass death for rulers who don't seem to care about them. At least people thank the Imperial Fists when they win after such losses, the Iron Warriors just get a painting of them dead in the mud while the Ultramarines receive the praise.
There are some more fun stories about near total annihilation of loyalist forces. There are the Soul Drinkers. There is also my favorite loyalist chapter, the Lamenters, I highly recommend their story.
Actually in terms of my favorite "Loyalists get destroyed" story? Legion of the Damned by Rob Sanders. Absolutely my favorite Space Marine based story. There's only one nitpicky thing that might be wrong with the story. And even then I'm not sure if it's actually a nitpicky thing because you don't really think of it (Least I didn't) until I hit the end of the story.
Fun fact, Perturabo is (approximate spelling) named after Frater Perdurabo, the “Magickal Motto” (aka self-applied nick name) of the famous occultist Aleister Crowley.
Iron within iron without
I must say. I have always liked the Black Legion the most. However, this video has got me very interested in the Iron Warriors.
It's wild that their unforgivable slaughter on their homeworld doesn't hold a candle to the slaughter carried out by real people in real life.
Doesn’t the iron Warriors cut of there mutations and replace them with mechanisms?
Yes
They don't care much for chaos. They view it as a tool for war and not a religion or thing of worship.
John 6466 They worship chaos, at least most of them. Daemonhood is aspired for and celebrated.
Isnt that the the Iron Hands youre thinking of?
I've read my Iron Warriors literature pretty closely. I believe Hrend sabotaged the Black Occulus out of martial integrity, a trait he shares with his Primarch. Their self worth is tied to their personal strength and sense of independence. The idea of borrowing strength from the ruinous powers would be like selling out. And then to owe chaos your life and soul in exchange for strength that you can't even legitimately call your own would be a fate worse than death. Hrend knew Perturabo would feel the same way (in fact he showed us this in Slaves to Darkness when he refused two such offers) so he decided to blow it all up.
Probably the only other Legion to become unwitting pawns to Chaos and the only other one I can sympathize with.
My favorite stripey bois.
P.s. to be fair, 5 million isn't that bad by imperial standards
Amazing video, IRON WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!
The Iron Warriors are comparable to the World Eaters and Blood Angels in terms of ferocity and mercilessness when the walls come down. Before then, they'll gun you down.
I wonder what it'd be like to lay siege to an Iron Warriors fortress...
That sounds enoyable. Rather like the opening of the Siege of Vraks.
Colonel Jurten Probably the interior would be nothing but a metal box full of turrets.
Very enjoyable then.
Colonel Jurten Ask the Imperial Fists. They got pretty screwed at Sebastus IV
Colonel Jurten
it sounds like a fun campaign
The book Angel exterminatus tells of how kroger became part of the trident and is also one of the best hh books so far. Also the book "Pharos" is worth reading.
If I get chance, I may well do that - thank you!
I highly recommend Angel exterminatus, I have it on audio book and have listened to it about 4 times, it's excellent.
I''d back that up. AE is up there with the very best HH books.
The horrific behaviour of the Emperor''s Children utterly in the thrall of Slaanesh now, a great portrait of Perturabo, the imagery on the dead Eldar world and Fulgrim's ascension - loved it.
definitely one of the best HH books, and not just because it's got Iron Warriors in it :P
How did you totally manage to skip Kyr Vhalen(sp?) the unwitting loyalist who fought the entire Alpha Legion with his grand battalion at Paramar?
I did not know that the named guys in Storm of Iron were all high ranking (Forrix, Kroeger, Barban Falk who is called just "The Warmsmith") in the Trident.
I just finished storm of iron. Such a depressing ending. They got the gene seed. Amazing novel though
Please do my favorite Loyalist legion soon, the Salamanders.
Donn Achtenberg He will cover out legion eventually.
My favourite legion ❤️❤️❤️
And what is strange in this legion,they are highly intelligent and build crazy warmachines that can match these from mars,but cant use advanced tactics and fight dumb with much losses.that doesnt fit right.
who would be more terrifying to be captured by WarSmith Honsou or Fabius Bile
No Kyr Vhalen? :(
thank you
My army
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT
Even I dont know how to get into this one!
Brass 'n Barrels Firearms Channel THAT is a funny reference
Excess always. Can't wait for the Dark Angels
HERESY!!!
But why does he dig holes
the nids were Created by the old ones. They were supposed to stay ahead of the necrons to to starve to Ctan of souls to eat.
Do you have a reference/source for that?
Tactica Imperialis its referenced in one of the Horus heresy books,when an old one device detonates and creates a flash momentarily brighter then the astronomicon,it briefly switches to the tyranid point of view,during which the author states "this is what they'd been looking for"
Implying that the device was something of an emergency flare,designed to call the tyranids back to the Milky Way after use
If your talkin about the pharos I don't think that confirms that and it's a dull theory anyway. More likely it was just a huge dinner bell rung for these interstellar preds
I thought the lion blew up all the traitors homeworlds?
sooo... next time red talons?
"perturabo go dig a trench"
so.....there was a family in serbian history that had exsactly same black and yellow colours on their heraldary.......yaal know im gona make shield with their colours
Could have done a bit more on this one?
How so? I'm sorry if this wasn't up to standard, but it is actually one of the longer Legion episodes (not by much, though) so I think I covered at least as much information
I do wonder how they took venus tho. its a damn hellhole. acid raining from the sky and everything man made send there has melted down in mere moments. thats a great place to put a vacation home thats for sure.
You seem to forget that these guys eat bullets and shit danger,a little acid isn't going to hurt them
I wonder if During the dark age of technology humanity tried to terraform Venus?
Have you read the Primarchs series book on Perturabo? It perfectly demonstrates that to call Perturabo a man-child is not just because it's a silly meme joke, but because it's actually true! He throws tantrums when things do not go how he wants them to go. Granted this is a Primarch so he doesn't lay on the ground kicking and screaming, he just kills the nearest living thing in the most brutal way imaginable while frothing at the mouth and bellowing like a mad bull.
He's also a try hard.
siege siege siege siege siege
Iron Warriors and alpha are the most redeemable legions in my opinion...the rest are lost
Geoffrey Noonan- What about the Thousand Sons?
Read storm of iron. The iron warriors r evil
Have you ever been hated or discriminated ageist?
For the algorithm...
Why does perturabo look like he has butchers nails?
One of my least favorite legions. Not saying that they arent JUST as interesting and awesome as the rest....just my least favorite.
One of my least favorite Primarchs. He's just ahead of Ferrus.
Iron warriors are unimaginative? Dude you really need to read up on Warsmith Honsou.
FERRUM IN FERREA SINE
Honsou was post-Heresy, this referred more to the Legion before and during the Heresy when they were a bit one-dimensional in war.