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The media was ready for GS to win without KD to justify their trolling of KD. When Curry didn't deliver they tried to demonize him for not fulfilling their narrative.
@@DoronBond Look you gotta admit that Steph had a bit too much hype. Folks were calling him the best player in the league. The criticism is fair. Bron averaged a triple double and still got trolled
@@GUURL101 and that's all i'm sayin'...Steph did not live up to the hype..plain and simple...I mean dude is one of the hottest uncontested shooters we've seen no doubt, but he's going to have to switch his game up as we seen in Game 6 with him scoring in the paint..at times, easily....I tell you what, if he does that, along with his 3 point shooting, he might be in the discussion for MVP...i'm just sayin'...
philly native as well...we both know..it wasn't about A.I. needing the roc all the time..remember Billy king..and Larry brown..both sent that 2000-2004 Sixers..down the drain..remember we could've had Paul pierce..straight up..for Larry Hughes?..remember we could've gotten Dirk ?..remember..we paid glen Robinson. 25 million. and got nothing?..c'mon fam u remember..it wasn't all Allen Iverson
@@lainiwakura4678 ppl act like larry hughes was trash. Stackhouse was great in the 90s and early 00s. not to mention the bevy of role players whose careers took off once they left Philly
Tony Harris I think that applys to stephanie more than any other so-called star player. Who does he really score on? He just runs through a plethora of illegal screens until he gets a good look.
@@MrRBX not true tons of players guard their position to start a possession they just switch off bc thats part of the defensive scheme to take away early opportunities in the pick and roll. If you go under the screen you give up an open 3. If you go over the screen the defender is trailing the ball handler and gives up an open mid range jumper. If you try to battle through a screen when the big hedges you give up a window for the roll man to score. It gives the big man inside position with the defender on his back.
@@DoronBond Bro, if the Raptors lost 4x than you are cooking with gas. Unfortunately for your point the Warriors lost 4x which lead to my above comment having so much traction.
@@DoronBond Nah KD was cooking the Raps. It would have been KD in 5 tbh. Curry wouldn't have even won FMVP if the Dubs had won. It would have been Klay
@@GUURL101 yeah he was cookin until.....so that's where the conversation ends tbh...goin' on and on about if KD and Klay was healthy is pointless...to your point, if they would've won, KD would've gotten FMVP...and then the debate would've been about why Klay didn't get it...but that's neither here nor there at this point...
I can't even count how many times Steph hit 'that shot' that sealed the win with seconds in the game. No, it wasn't necessarily in game 7 of the finals each time, but the guy is EXTREMELY dependable ! Max gives me a damn headache .
Its not 0-8 in the finals. It's throughout Stephs post season career. Also its a misleading stat. Steph is 4-12 in go ahead shots in under 30 secs but espn chose under 20 secs to make him look worse. Steph is also 3-4 in game tying shots which includes the pelicans game that forced OT. And yes the OP is right that MJ is the ONLY one that made multiple finals shots to win the game that Kellerman keeps referring to.
@@NwoFresh Clearly u are one of the casuals that dont understand espn being deceptive and cherry picking stats. Heres a cherry pick stat for u: 2 Time MVP and 3 time champion. Damn those stats are pretty😭😭😭
Without durant, both teams were equal but gsw were more seasoned. The north role players showed all the way up. Gsw role players didn't and it was still a great series.
Without KD they were equal but then the warriors were injured aswell. So the series was lopsided as hell. Iggy rushed back, Jordan Bell rushed back, Klay rushed back. The majority of the Warriors roster was at about 70%.
Not really GS was top heavy and didn’t have much of a bench. So when KD and Klay got hurt it left Steph as the only scorer. Toronto has a very deep roster which was the main reason they won.
The disrespect Steph is getting is seriously becoming ridiculous. But don't think he's not hearing all of this, He's gonna have a big season an the Warriors with the additions of Cauley-Stein and Russell are gonna be way better than what people think.
Fanboys: "They take a moment in time & they try stretch it out as if it was their entire career of the althlete they're idolizing". Well stated sir. How many times do the media show that same play where Iverson crosses Jordan? It was one time; not like he always did.
@@donnyjones6717 Actually, Mike scored 23 (9-24) & Iverson 37 (15-23). It was Iverson's rookie year and that game was one of his career best & it was against the Bulls. Steve Kerr was primarily guarding him as Jordan typically had a tougher time with smaller guards. But that one time they made the switch & Iverson crossed Jordan & scored on him 'that one time'. Big whoops. And you're right about the Bulls getting the 'W'. Anyway, Chronicles is right about Iverson & I will further add that Iverson's by far the least efficient Hall of Famer.
Lee Scott If were doing that then Lebrons 2013 and 2016 championships were tainted. San Antonio should’ve won in 2013 and Golden State had the worst breakdown in Finals history
@Lee Scott Difference is that steph was willing to be coached. AI arrogance is what kept him from winning. Regardless of how talented you are if you have a me first attitude then it will get you no where. Iverson wasn't willing to practice let alone be coached. That mindset kept him back. Lebron advantage on those championship teams he won in Miami was that he had a much better supporting cast. Yea KD made the warriors unbeatable but the warriors had won one and choke away another before he arrived.
@Lee Scott AI only went to one conference finals and one finals How does that make him better than Steph who won a championship before KD and beat KD and Russ to go to the finals. Don't talk about Klay Thompson in game 6 where Steph had 31/10/9 closed the game with final 11 points. The final 3 game's he had over 30. AI can't beat KD. Matter of fact I got jkidd took the nets to back to back finals when the team was trash before he got there and that was in AI era. AI is highly overrated. plus Steph took his team to the finals this past season even though everyone said he was going to lose to the rocket's and the blazers without kd. And he won 2 games against a all time great defensive team. It's not close between Steph and AI. Steph is far better.
I mean if it's just 1 game I understand it. Curry is a better player, but Curry couldn't beat the Cavs one more game and blew that 3-1 lead. Injuries, bad circumstances sure but the 2 time MVP couldn't lead his team to win one more game? Curry's better imo but that's a bad look to me.
@@milesaheadpodcast the problem with AI is too much hero ball, makes him ineffecient, it's why he'll never win the big one. But he has willed his team for 1 game against a team far more talented than his own. His game has less varables so it's easier for him to take over a game. Curry is the better player I rather build my team around him win long term... that said if I need someone in just one big game to just say "screw it, my teammates couldn't hit the broad side of a mountain so I gotta do it myself" I may take AI in that situation. And I'm not even a fan of either of them. Kawhi is my favorite currently, and I'd take him over Curry in taking a big game over at will as well.
@@trowabarton321 AI only went to one conference finals and one finals How does that make him better than Steph who won a championship before KD and beat KD and Russ to go to the finals. Don't talk about Klay Thompson in game 6 where Steph had 31/10/9 closed the game with final 11 points. The final 3 game's he had over 30. AI can't beat KD. Matter of fact I got jkidd took the nets to back to back finals when the team was trash before he got there and that was in AI era. AI is highly overrated. plus Steph took his team to the finals this past season even though everyone said he was going to lose to the rocket's and the blazers without kd. And he won 2 games against a all time great defensive team. It's not close between Steph and AI. Steph is far better. AI isn't clutch. You just want someone to miss a bunch of shots. AI has never truly been that guy.
The Bad Boys greatness feeds the mythology of Jordan. Isaiah Thomas greatness is key to understanding the 80's and 90's. Guards in a Center dominated league. Craziness.
Demir stays in the crowd on in some Lakers gear, lol. I caught that Querim moment checking Jalen too, I bet she is wearing a pair of Wrangler jeans under that table.
If Curry makes that one shot and they win the championship, he wins Finals MVP and Max Kellerman most likely calls him the best, most clutch player in the league and comes up with some sort of isolated stat to back that up... It's getting boring to watch people like him say stuff just to get their little bit of TV air time because they have no real skill to put forward from which they can garner attention.
What confuses me is when did steph curry not get it done? He dominated the west 5 straight years, won 3 championships and only lost 2 because of injury and had more historical moments in the playoffs than any player since 2010
Great point Coj. But I would argue on the nights that Zeke didn't shoot well, as a great point guard, he raised his team level. By not gunning them out trying to find his shot. He found others who were on.
Lowry and Van Vleet- who were having subpar playoff performances-got better instantly. Curry is like that one pitcher who gets a batter out of a slump!
This makes no sense. Van Fleet was balling in the east finals. The hate on Steph is comical. I guess when you are the best pg of this era then the hate keeps piling on.
Will Smooth You're right. Both VanVleet and Lowry got hot in the ECF! I'll amend my statement: Curry is like the pitcher you see when you're on a streak, you know you're going to see even more great pitches to hit!
@@tmat2024 lol. I guess that comes with the territory when you win multiple titles. I guess GREATNESS will always be hated on. Too bad Steph doesn't have those slump problems in the post season. Gotcha.
Yes Allen Iverson created a very tense locker room. I remember a clutch game where they went triple or quadruple overtime against Boston he threw a shity pass and flipped out on his teammate for it.
TrapFilmz Stephanie doesn't have a complete game. He's just a shorter reggie miller. Without all that help(from teammates&refs), we'll see if he is truly a dominant player.
In the NBA Finals: Steph Curry's decision-making is terrible... forget stats; you have to win but upon winning you must lead properly and that has everything to do with decision-making. Down 2 down 3-2 when you need to win, you do not take a 3 when you can shoot well from the foul-line. Against the Cavs in 2017 up 2-0 in game 3 Curry was jerking around allowing the Cavs to stay in the game and it cost him Finals' MVP... the mentality in 2016 up 2-0 vs. Cavs having the shot to destroy LeBron James he does not even show up for game 3 and allows his team to lose a 3-1 lead by not controlling the pace; running the offense; being a poised point-guard; and not milking the hot hands or getting to the line to control pace, time, and score in games 5, 6, and 7.
What goes around comes around, Warriors would have one less ring if Lebron had Kyrie & Love the first time they met in the finals with that Cavs team where those 2 were injured.
P.S., I would never pick A.I. over Steph, many of his fans love AI for his thug baller persona. And that crossing over MJ highlight.
that reflect on a.i. as a great player you suppose to make your teammate better if they not thaat reflect on the leader in plus if a.i. wanted the ball 24/7 so what could they do
Steph more versatile and more area space bring up the court be pick and roll spot up type shooter, take off the bounce as well; also had the accomplishment that set him up was mark Jackson coaching. Underrated guy he's better trajectory of a player than AI doesn't mean he's better brett Favre when he does dumb shit I'll agree with you on.
Iverson is the biggest ballhog in the history of the National Basketball Association He's the most overrated SG of all time He drove other Wing teammates away from the Sixers Billy King traded him to the Nuggets in 2007 for Andre Miller because King was fed up with AI's selfish antics causing issues in the locker room In his stints with the Nuggets and Pistons, Iverson failed to commit himself. For a 6-2 MVP shooting guard, he was a bigger ballhog than Jordan and Kobe ever were.
A.I. led the L in minutes played per gm 11 yrs straight!! also 9yrs out of that 11yrs, he led the L in mins per gm playing Hurt!!!! check the stats bros!... no other guard in NBA History has done that!!!! Curry plez!! Stop it bros, was Curry the #1 over all pick?, .. in one of the all time NBA Drafts?...NO! was he the rookie of the yr? NO! matter of fact when was he drafted..? I cant remember!...plus Curry is a part of the ' Establishment" so you get rings, bro Juda knows what im talking about, peace...
People talk about steph’s defense but, forget his performance in the finals against Cleveland (during KD’s first year)....Steph played elite defense during those finals.
Naaahhh i think I’m goin with AI...because he’s that in the paint advantage clutch gene over Steph..Steph has shown signs of the same but AI hands down
Step is not a better player then AI. Step in majority of his career has had a great team around him with Klay and KD. Far as that Philly team that team had NO offensive help what so ever. You mention Stackhouse but what exactly did the Sixers win or achieve?
Alright man peace....bro Juda I hear you with the A.I. opinions and I respect highly your opinion and info you give. I ask the question could either S.Curry and K.Ivring have taken the physical beaten that A.I. took, the L was still very physical back then. Its soft now in my opinion, ive never seen a guard his size take the punishment he received through out his career. Bro Juda I believe you understand that the L is a controlled environment, if they like you , you get rings, when they don't you get push to the side, and push out the L. I cant see Curry taken the punishment he took and being this so called great player. Blessings GOD 1st!
Injured and depleted Dubs lost to raptors who were historic defensively and on fire, with Kawhii having one of the top playoffs runs in history, that’s all there is to it. Congrats to Raptors, fair win.
A.I. played in a totally different era, different mentality and style back then, what a lot of yall Curry lovers need to ask yourselves, could Curry have taken the physical punishment that A.I. took most of his career...? also K.Evring. I don't think so!!!! in that era Curry wouldn't have lasted , like a lot of guards from that era faded away, also the HATE that he received from the"PTB', and Refs who hated A.I., whole different era....blessings ,,
What fucking punishment did he receive other than self implicated, going all out every game and and taking near 30 shots inside and out will do that to you, thats why Kobe played through multiple injuries too, 100 miles an hour until his body completely collapsed. Curry like many other greats would adjust and be great in any era, guy is has transcendent talent and ability.
Don’t forget the 0 first half against Houston then destroyed them in the 2nd half end with 33 points and had some clutch plays smh these guys know we fall for it it’s part of the show . They’d guys are actors is a tv show when the cameras are off they all agree
@@ced9938 I know he does but it's never harsh criticism plus its mainly personal, not what they do in their sport. Just naming 3 main athletes he gushes over for a person opposed to fanboying
@@354allday because they don't have a lot of wrong things with them. lol steph is literally the best shooter ever, floys was beating guys bigger than him and still undefeated and MJ is the goat there is no debate here lol. you could make every NBA player Stephen curry size and height. steph would cook all of them
Been saying the same thing about AI fans for years. His fans are so emotional. I have yet to talk with one that can actually use stats to make the claim as to why he was as great as they make him out to be. Don’t get me wrong I understand how great he was, but with context. All you hear is “he played his heart out!” “He changed the game!” “He had kids rocking corn rolls!” Nothing of real substance. This is why I say Westbrook is the modern day AI, all his fans will be able to say is “he played his heart out” and “he averaged triple doubles!!” Smh.
I'm not an Iverson fan. But if it's just one big game, I can see him will his team to win that one game. And only that one game He isn't better than Curry as a whole but I think he can take over a game at will better and you do need that in big games. And is inefficient...While Curry is by far the better at playing with a team but struggles at taking over at will when the system isn't working. He's a superstar playing the role of a role player, does it at an all-time great level. But if a good team defense stops the system, he struggles with physicality, disappears in some spots in the finals.
That Portland team should have won multiple champions and if Sabonis comes over when he is first drafted and Zeke used to eat everybody for breakfast Mark Price had some games against him but if that is the case Reggie use to fuck Jordan up
U have compare player 2 player not team 2 team A.I and Steph is razor thin because if Iverson played with Klay,Kd,Shaun,🏆 Iggy, and those guys maybe different story were talkin about. Other than Magic no point guard player has played with that much talent!!! Facts
Carmelo and AI are the most overrated players I’ve ever seen since the 90s. What a fucking joke. AI led the Olympics team in 2004 and they flopped. Gimme a break
Curry threw that damn series. Like, Young Judah said before, sports is about narratives, rise and falls of champions, new kids on the blocks, what-ifs, etc.. sports analysts will talk about any damn thing nowadays.. Curry played his role, Now its time to usher in a new era
Hey C.o.J, when you get a chance, could you check out the video Savannah James plays horse with her son Bryce? I would like for you to check out the illustrations that LeBron James's daughter had on her drawing pad. I'm not requesting for you to do a video just desire for you to check out the illustrations so you can peep out what I peeped.
Chronicles be defending Curry but nitpick Kobe all the time. 😁 I love your channel bruh but I must admit you are a Kobe hater and Dwyane Wade my favorite all time player not Kobe.
Cordell Williams He does this because people like to overate certain players such as Kobe, A.I, etc. His criticism of those player creates a proper balance. He also praises certain underrated players such Isaiah Thomas, Larry Bird, etc. It’s important to judge players based on facts as opposed to cult of personality.
Are you seriously saying Steph hit a big shot against the Pelicans who hasn’t ever been in the western conference finals😂😂😂...it that’s not a fanboy I don’t know what is smh
So a "big shot" is predicated on the franchise one is playing against, not time, situation, and score.....I gotcha. I don't think you're mentally qualified to determine what a fanboy is lol. Thanks for viewing the video.
Alright Man Peace.....what bros need to understand is, if it wasn't for Great small guards like I.Thomas & A.I. ..who convinced the L that small guards can not only play , but dominate the game. We might not have even heard of a Step C. or K.Irving and a few others ,or a lot of other small guards that came in the L and faded away, go ask Curry who he Idolized growing up, plus no one would have taken Curry over Iverson in the '96' NBA Draft!! which is one of the greatest drafts of all times! how many H.O.F's where in that draft ?...4, 5, and still counting. When was Curry drafted ??? we can not compare those two totally different era's, Pound for Pound , The Great Allen Iverson is the Greatest small guard to ever play, next to I. Thomas of course!, in NBA History!!.." fanboy of GOD given Raw talent" Peace...
you take them kobe "clutch" #s to the bank even called him a overrated clutch player based on them but want nothin to do with the steph 0-8 "clutch" numbers iima firm believer that these clutch statistics provided by ESPN and FOX are baseless cant put a statistic on bein cluth unless you are literally countin game winners. is ice'n a game with FTs not clutch? killin a opponents run with a made basket not clutch? rippin of 15 straight FGM not win in regulation but win in O.T not clutch? but if you are goin to use them then use them for everybody
@@milesaheadpodcast EXACTLY. It so bad that an idiot a few weeks ago even went as far to say that klay carried Steph in the 2016 okc game 6 and that he usually bails Steph out in the playoffs. One of the dumbest post ive seen here in regards to sports.
bro so those 3 years and playoff where mj got kicked out by the pistons did they expose him y all like kevin garrnet who never been to the finals with the timberwolves but you want hope on steph curry who was playing with a dislocated finger and a bum ankles and half of beat up team stop playing remember this when the warriors went 73-9 before kd guess who they went thru the spurs with kawhi and tim duncan on it so stop playing with this man name
@@JamesBrown-bz2xv lol. Ok hater. Steph is the leader that won 3 chips. Without Steph there are zero titles. A front runner that the opposition couldn't stop him to begin with. You haters are clueless i swear. Go cry somewhere with your Front runner nonsense.
God so leading in steals says nothing in general. they have good pass perception and a quick first step. thats all it says. curry does play defense tho, not the best cause he's not the biggest but he really puts in effort
Madara Uchiha iverson was never 1st team defense idk why you jus lied like that, www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iversal01.html he average .3 bpg most of his career, curry does the same, what are you sayin really?
Madara Uchiha steph curry has fucked up a few times but so have all greats. iverson took a game off of the kobe shaq lakers and that was a great achievement but other then that he wasn't a winner.
I know a lot was going against Steph for being able to win the finals but it's not like he didn't have his chances and really wasn't like in 2016. Were the you know the series was rigged . So you are kinda making excuses cause Steph had three opurtunities at the end of game 6 to make a game sealing type of shot that would be clutch to push the series to 7. And Steph did kinda get exposed cause for the most part if KD didn't play in game 5 the warriors would have lost probably in 5. And Although that may seem far fetched considering that he only played like 12 mins his +/- was better than Steph's for the entire series. And saying you can't hold him to the same standards of a MJ or someone of that elk is really saying like hes not on that level. So how impactful can he be if he can't make his impact felt during the biggest stage his impact doesn't really win. Like you really can't call him the greatest shooter if you can't do it under pressure.
But give me the name of he who had no bench, who had defences focus primarily on him implementing box-and-one cuz nobody else is a real threat besides him, who's got to the finals five years consecutively running through the tougher conference, who rarely gets the calls other big superstars get more often than not..and still managed to deliver and win the championship. I'll wait an eternity.
People act like Steph Curry just failed. They didn't lose just because Kevin Durant was out and Klay. He had Iggy, no bench and an injured Looney. Even if he had the 2015 bench with Klay and no KD they would have won.
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ChroniclesOfJudah 144 so that means your a curry fan boy also
stylesP ghost comprehension is very low 🤦🏾♂️
hey brotha please look into the documentary Black Godfather on Netflix i think it’s very much so worth of you critique
@@mecca1501 fuck you sucker
The media was ready for GS to win without KD to justify their trolling of KD. When Curry didn't deliver they tried to demonize him for not fulfilling their narrative.
SolteroConDinero that’s the point Curry didn’t deliver based on the hype the put on him before KD was even thought of joining the Warriors
@@DoronBond Look you gotta admit that Steph had a bit too much hype. Folks were calling him the best player in the league. The criticism is fair. Bron averaged a triple double and still got trolled
@@GUURL101 and that's all i'm sayin'...Steph did not live up to the hype..plain and simple...I mean dude is one of the hottest uncontested shooters we've seen no doubt, but he's going to have to switch his game up as we seen in Game 6 with him scoring in the paint..at times, easily....I tell you what, if he does that, along with his 3 point shooting, he might be in the discussion for MVP...i'm just sayin'...
the A.I. fanboys are outta control. I say that as a 76er supporter and Philly native.
philly native as well...we both know..it wasn't about A.I. needing the roc all the time..remember Billy king..and Larry brown..both sent that 2000-2004 Sixers..down the drain..remember we could've had Paul pierce..straight up..for Larry Hughes?..remember we could've gotten Dirk ?..remember..we paid glen Robinson. 25 million. and got nothing?..c'mon fam u remember..it wasn't all Allen Iverson
@@lainiwakura4678 ppl act like larry hughes was trash. Stackhouse was great in the 90s and early 00s. not to mention the bevy of role players whose careers took off once they left Philly
I'm with you, bro.
ATL 1
Right. Its always some excuse for him not playing well.
Did Stephen a really say he would take Ai over currry hahahahhaha what a dummy
Not surprised to be honest, he’s a moron.
Iverson wasn’t me first he was me ONLY
Curry is me only but he made a lot of his shots. He may have to be me again since they lost fire power
Kevin Durant.
@@fromthefather8349 I don’t think u even know what “me first” means
Do these dudes know we watch games too???? Lowry scored one basket on steph. literally one. go watch the tape.
@ATL 1 probably because there are more than those two on the court. sorry it was two baskets.
Tony Harris
I think that applys to stephanie more than any other so-called star player. Who does he really score on? He just runs through a plethora of illegal screens until he gets a good look.
@ATL 1 The game hasn't been played that way for years
@@MrRBX not true tons of players guard their position to start a possession they just switch off bc thats part of the defensive scheme to take away early opportunities in the pick and roll. If you go under the screen you give up an open 3. If you go over the screen the defender is trailing the ball handler and gives up an open mid range jumper. If you try to battle through a screen when the big hedges you give up a window for the roll man to score. It gives the big man inside position with the defender on his back.
"No no no, you picked the Raptors for the same reason I picked the Raptors, becsuse K.D. was hurt."😅😅😅😅
Jalen is hilarious
SIRTURF and they lost twice to the raptors with a healthy KD...ok then
@@DoronBond Bro, if the Raptors lost 4x than you are cooking with gas. Unfortunately for your point the Warriors lost 4x which lead to my above comment having so much traction.
@@SIRTURF The KD hurt narrative was a weak one for that reason I mentioned above. Your comment has very little traction. Raptors in 6.
@@DoronBond Nah KD was cooking the Raps. It would have been KD in 5 tbh. Curry wouldn't have even won FMVP if the Dubs had won. It would have been Klay
@@GUURL101 yeah he was cookin until.....so that's where the conversation ends tbh...goin' on and on about if KD and Klay was healthy is pointless...to your point, if they would've won, KD would've gotten FMVP...and then the debate would've been about why Klay didn't get it...but that's neither here nor there at this point...
I can't even count how many times Steph hit 'that shot' that sealed the win with seconds in the game. No, it wasn't necessarily in game 7 of the finals each time, but the guy is EXTREMELY dependable ! Max gives me a damn headache .
Its not 0-8 in the finals. It's throughout Stephs post season career. Also its a misleading stat. Steph is 4-12 in go ahead shots in under 30 secs but espn chose under 20 secs to make him look worse. Steph is also 3-4 in game tying shots which includes the pelicans game that forced OT. And yes the OP is right that MJ is the ONLY one that made multiple finals shots to win the game that Kellerman keeps referring to.
0-9 now lol
@@NwoFresh Clearly u are one of the casuals that dont understand espn being deceptive and cherry picking stats. Heres a cherry pick stat for u: 2 Time MVP and 3 time champion. Damn those stats are pretty😭😭😭
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Stef Curry’s the only player I’ve seen routinely dog walk CP3
And lillard
Deron Williams&Chauncey Billups put it on him too.
And Harden
Without durant, both teams were equal but gsw were more seasoned. The north role players showed all the way up. Gsw role players didn't and it was still a great series.
Without KD they were equal but then the warriors were injured aswell. So the series was lopsided as hell. Iggy rushed back, Jordan Bell rushed back, Klay rushed back. The majority of the Warriors roster was at about 70%.
Wit out KD GS wasnt winning no more rings
Not really GS was top heavy and didn’t have much of a bench. So when KD and Klay got hurt it left Steph as the only scorer. Toronto has a very deep roster which was the main reason they won.
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Let's go let's go
The disrespect Steph is getting is seriously becoming ridiculous. But don't think he's not hearing all of this, He's gonna have a big season an the Warriors with the additions of Cauley-Stein and Russell are gonna be way better than what people think.
Ahmad2423 that team is a 7-8 seed at best without Klay for awhile. He can come up big in the playoffs tho maybe
We shall see.
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T 7-8 seed? 😂😂😂😂😂 bugging
True, especially Caullie-Stein. He’s going to be a problem...and DLo, nothing more needs to said about him. We all saw his tape in Brooklyn.
Brett Favre is a great comparison. Brett didn't even win the Superbowl MVP in 1996. Great quarterback though.
Gabby85
Brett Favre is still the most clutch qb all time
@@ZOI12TribesSeattle that Joe 4-0
@@negusibe9232 Brady stop the foolishness
@@Kameraspie he choked in the eagles super bowl
That last part about Jalen Rose had me rolling 😂😂
Well, Max Kellerman's comments did not age well.
Fanboys: "They take a moment in time & they try stretch it out as if it was their entire career of the althlete they're idolizing". Well stated sir. How many times do the media show that same play where Iverson crosses Jordan? It was one time; not like he always did.
They also forget that Mike had 38 that game and they won
@@donnyjones6717 Actually, Mike scored 23 (9-24) & Iverson 37 (15-23). It was Iverson's rookie year and that game was one of his career best & it was against the Bulls. Steve Kerr was primarily guarding him as Jordan typically had a tougher time with smaller guards. But that one time they made the switch & Iverson crossed Jordan & scored on him 'that one time'. Big whoops. And you're right about the Bulls getting the 'W'. Anyway, Chronicles is right about Iverson & I will further add that Iverson's by far the least efficient Hall of Famer.
I love AI game a lot! But, COJ is correct AI never won shit!!! Practice, practice, practice!! Steph Curry has three championships!! Enough said!!
Lee Scott stop it....
Lee Scott If were doing that then Lebrons 2013 and 2016 championships were tainted. San Antonio should’ve won in 2013 and Golden State had the worst breakdown in Finals history
@Lee Scott Difference is that steph was willing to be coached. AI arrogance is what kept him from winning. Regardless of how talented you are if you have a me first attitude then it will get you no where. Iverson wasn't willing to practice let alone be coached. That mindset kept him back. Lebron advantage on those championship teams he won in Miami was that he had a much better supporting cast. Yea KD made the warriors unbeatable but the warriors had won one and choke away another before he arrived.
@Lee Scott that's understandable D wade is one of the best players to never win a regular season MVP
@Lee Scott AI only went to one conference finals and one finals How does that make him better than Steph who won a championship before KD and beat KD and Russ to go to the finals. Don't talk about Klay Thompson in game 6 where Steph had 31/10/9 closed the game with final 11 points. The final 3 game's he had over 30. AI can't beat KD. Matter of fact I got jkidd took the nets to back to back finals when the team was trash before he got there and that was in AI era. AI is highly overrated. plus Steph took his team to the finals this past season even though everyone said he was going to lose to the rocket's and the blazers without kd. And he won 2 games against a all time great defensive team. It's not close between Steph and AI. Steph is far better.
Stephen A Smith said he pick Allen Iverson over Stephen Curry to win a finals game I can't take this dude seriously!!
I mean if it's just 1 game I understand it. Curry is a better player, but Curry couldn't beat the Cavs one more game and blew that 3-1 lead. Injuries, bad circumstances sure but the 2 time MVP couldn't lead his team to win one more game? Curry's better imo but that's a bad look to me.
@@trowabarton321 How many championships did AI win? How many finals did he go to? How many eastern conference finals did he win because it's just 1?
@@milesaheadpodcast the problem with AI is too much hero ball, makes him ineffecient, it's why he'll never win the big one. But he has willed his team for 1 game against a team far more talented than his own. His game has less varables so it's easier for him to take over a game. Curry is the better player I rather build my team around him win long term... that said if I need someone in just one big game to just say "screw it, my teammates couldn't hit the broad side of a mountain so I gotta do it myself" I may take AI in that situation. And I'm not even a fan of either of them. Kawhi is my favorite currently, and I'd take him over Curry in taking a big game over at will as well.
@@trowabarton321 AI only went to one conference finals and one finals How does that make him better than Steph who won a championship before KD and beat KD and Russ to go to the finals. Don't talk about Klay Thompson in game 6 where Steph had 31/10/9 closed the game with final 11 points. The final 3 game's he had over 30. AI can't beat KD. Matter of fact I got jkidd took the nets to back to back finals when the team was trash before he got there and that was in AI era. AI is highly overrated. plus Steph took his team to the finals this past season even though everyone said he was going to lose to the rocket's and the blazers without kd. And he won 2 games against a all time great defensive team. It's not close between Steph and AI. Steph is far better. AI isn't clutch. You just want someone to miss a bunch of shots. AI has never truly been that guy.
@@trowabarton321 Steph makes it easier for himself by listening to the coach and not minding if his teammates get shots also if hot.
14:54 Damn, Molly be looking miserable.
Anti depressants will do that to you ... nice catch ...
Because she can’t interrupt every five seconds like she usually does.
@@PeaceLoveDrumsticks Indeed.
@Shaun King damn.
The Bad Boys greatness feeds the mythology of Jordan. Isaiah Thomas greatness is key to understanding the 80's and 90's. Guards in a Center dominated league. Craziness.
Why's Molly looking so salty throughout the session.n? 😂 😂
Jalen keeping her mouth shut by stomping her foot every time he see her about to open it.
Demir stays in the crowd on in some Lakers gear, lol. I caught that Querim moment checking Jalen too, I bet she is wearing a pair of Wrangler jeans under that table.
@@lainiwakura4678 Indeed
If KD was healthy, you think Raptors game plan wouldn't change ?? You think they're double teaming Curry while KD and Klay go off?? NOT LIKELY.
What goes around comes around, Warriors would have one less ring if Lebron had Kyrie & Love the first time they met in the finals with that Cavs team.
If Curry makes that one shot and they win the championship, he wins Finals MVP and Max Kellerman most likely calls him the best, most clutch player in the league and comes up with some sort of isolated stat to back that up... It's getting boring to watch people like him say stuff just to get their little bit of TV air time because they have no real skill to put forward from which they can garner attention.
@Dats a paddlin The point isn't about Curry not making the shot... It's about people like Kellerman
What confuses me is when did steph curry not get it done? He dominated the west 5 straight years, won 3 championships and only lost 2 because of injury and had more historical moments in the playoffs than any player since 2010
@ATL 1 so 1 bad series dictates his entire career?
@ATL 1 he made it to the finals twice without KD and actually beat him in a 7 game series in the tough western conference
@ATL 1 Lebron is 0-2 without superteams and 3-4 on loaded super teams
But. But he got the finals TWICE without KD and beat KD along the way. So we should ignore that as well??😳😳😳
And Durant is 0-1 without Steph and he's also 0-1 going against Steph. So you were saying??
Great point Coj. But I would argue on the nights that Zeke didn't shoot well, as a great point guard, he raised his team level. By not gunning them out trying to find his shot. He found others who were on.
Lowry and Van Vleet- who were having subpar playoff performances-got better instantly. Curry is like that one pitcher who gets a batter out of a slump!
This makes no sense. Van Fleet was balling in the east finals. The hate on Steph is comical. I guess when you are the best pg of this era then the hate keeps piling on.
Will Smooth You're right. Both VanVleet and Lowry got hot in the ECF! I'll amend my statement: Curry is like the pitcher you see when you're on a streak, you know you're going to see even more great pitches to hit!
@@tmat2024 lol. I guess that comes with the territory when you win multiple titles. I guess GREATNESS will always be hated on. Too bad Steph doesn't have those slump problems in the post season. Gotcha.
Will Smooth 👍
I see people romanticize performance of players still in the league even more than people romanticize older players.
Harden is better than AI too
That 0-8 is just nitpicking. The Ray Allen, Kyrie, and KD shots would not have even been a part of that metric
If Kobe was 0-0-8 or KD or LeBron we would tear them apart
This is nonsense... Seth curry has hit so many daggers and Burried so many teams it’s been normalized
"Yeah he just won't stop shooting and bricking shots. No disrespect brother Allen Iverson never won shit in the NBA" 😂😂😂
That 2016 Finals marred curry in a myriad of ways. He just has not been the same player to me since then.
Agreed. He's been a lot better in the finals since then.😂😂😂😂
Yes Allen Iverson created a very tense locker room. I remember a clutch game where they went triple or quadruple overtime against Boston he threw a shity pass and flipped out on his teammate for it.
Robert Horry is the 2nd most clutch player ever....Big Shot Bob...
@@lainiwakura4678 true. Rob had Clyde and Hakeem to take most of the defensive heat
Been saying gsw dynasty was bs .. now w/o KD and klay to lean on we gonna really see how good curry is.
TrapFilmz
Stephanie doesn't have a complete game. He's just a shorter reggie miller. Without all that help(from teammates&refs), we'll see if he is truly a dominant player.
In the NBA Finals: Steph Curry's decision-making is terrible... forget stats; you have to win but upon winning you must lead properly and that has everything to do with decision-making. Down 2 down 3-2 when you need to win, you do not take a 3 when you can shoot well from the foul-line. Against the Cavs in 2017 up 2-0 in game 3 Curry was jerking around allowing the Cavs to stay in the game and it cost him Finals' MVP... the mentality in 2016 up 2-0 vs. Cavs having the shot to destroy LeBron James he does not even show up for game 3 and allows his team to lose a 3-1 lead by not controlling the pace; running the offense; being a poised point-guard; and not milking the hot hands or getting to the line to control pace, time, and score in games 5, 6, and 7.
Man i loved brett Favre to bad he made so many mistakes at end of games. He was so fun to watch
What goes around comes around, Warriors would have one less ring if Lebron had Kyrie & Love the first time they met in the finals with that Cavs team where those 2 were injured.
P.S., I would never pick A.I. over Steph, many of his fans love AI for his thug baller persona. And that crossing over MJ highlight.
Lebron and kyrie would have one less ring also considering what happened to GS in 16. It goes both ways.
Never let facts get in the way of a good narrative... smh. Describes this perfectly. Part 1 was great, went ahead and just carried along to part 2.
You need to win in the finals........and you pick AI? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is no way I'd take AI over curry lol. Stupid a Smith is a fanboy!
I guess Allen Iverson was supposed to pass the ball to Matt Geiger, Aaron Mckey, or Eric Snow? Yeah that makes perfect sense.
that reflect on a.i. as a great player you suppose to make your teammate better if they not thaat reflect on the leader in plus if a.i. wanted the ball 24/7 so what could they do
He had more than Matt fucking Geiger, none of them stayed, because you’re relegated to Matt Geiger roles when you got AI as a team “leader”.
I think GS wins even without KD if they didn’t have the litany of injuries they had (Looney, AI, Klay Thompson)
Steph more versatile and more area space bring up the court be pick and roll spot up type shooter, take off the bounce as well; also had the accomplishment that set him up was mark Jackson coaching. Underrated guy he's better trajectory of a player than AI doesn't mean he's better brett Favre when he does dumb shit I'll agree with you on.
Iverson is the biggest ballhog in the history of the National Basketball Association
He's the most overrated SG of all time
He drove other Wing teammates away from the Sixers
Billy King traded him to the Nuggets in 2007 for Andre Miller because King was fed up with AI's selfish antics causing issues in the locker room
In his stints with the Nuggets and Pistons, Iverson failed to commit himself. For a 6-2 MVP shooting guard, he was a bigger ballhog than Jordan and Kobe ever were.
Keep an eye on ayesha curry around dlo. 😂👀
facts
At 16:16 whoa! 😗. I never thought of it like that COJ144. I'm a big Allen Iverson fan by the way.
Patiently waiting 🙏🏿
A.I. led the L in minutes played per gm 11 yrs straight!! also 9yrs out of that 11yrs, he led the L in mins per gm playing Hurt!!!! check the stats bros!... no other guard in NBA History has done that!!!! Curry plez!! Stop it bros, was Curry the #1 over all pick?, .. in one of the all time NBA Drafts?...NO! was he the rookie of the yr? NO! matter of fact when was he drafted..? I cant remember!...plus Curry is a part of the ' Establishment" so you get rings, bro Juda knows what im talking about, peace...
People talk about steph’s defense but, forget his performance in the finals against Cleveland (during KD’s first year)....Steph played elite defense during those finals.
Naaahhh i think I’m goin with AI...because he’s that in the paint advantage clutch gene over Steph..Steph has shown signs of the same but AI hands down
You got a new subscriber here bro . Keep up the good work ⛓
I didn't see a gm7 wit Klay playing
Step is not a better player then AI. Step in majority of his career has had a great team around him with Klay and KD. Far as that Philly team that team had NO offensive help what so ever. You mention Stackhouse but what exactly did the Sixers win or achieve?
Alright man peace....bro Juda I hear you with the A.I. opinions and I respect highly your opinion and info you give. I ask the question could either S.Curry and K.Ivring have taken the physical beaten that A.I. took, the L was still very physical back then. Its soft now in my opinion, ive never seen a guard his size take the punishment he received through out his career. Bro Juda I believe you understand that the L is a controlled environment, if they like you , you get rings, when they don't you get push to the side, and push out the L. I cant see Curry taken the punishment he took and being this so called great player. Blessings GOD 1st!
Injured and depleted Dubs lost to raptors who were historic defensively and on fire, with Kawhii having one of the top playoffs runs in history, that’s all there is to it. Congrats to Raptors, fair win.
Dope as usual
A.I. played in a totally different era, different mentality and style back then, what a lot of yall Curry lovers need to ask yourselves, could Curry have taken the physical punishment that A.I. took most of his career...? also K.Evring. I don't think so!!!! in that era Curry wouldn't have lasted , like a lot of guards from that era faded away, also the HATE that he received from the"PTB', and Refs who hated A.I., whole different era....blessings ,,
What fucking punishment did he receive other than self implicated, going all out every game and and taking near 30 shots inside and out will do that to you, thats why Kobe played through multiple injuries too, 100 miles an hour until his body completely collapsed. Curry like many other greats would adjust and be great in any era, guy is has transcendent talent and ability.
Don’t forget the 0 first half against Houston then destroyed them in the 2nd half end with 33 points and had some clutch plays smh these guys know we fall for it it’s part of the show . They’d guys are actors is a tv show when the cameras are off they all agree
Don’t disrespect AI like that
Whenever its a Floyd,Curry or Jordan video nothing bad will be said. Noticed that a about Judah
I agree Steph curry more versatile on floor he can find his own shot to pick and roll more accomplished doesn't mean he's better.
@@354allday I noticed you never paid attention in those videos because he has criticized those guys
@@ced9938 I know he does but it's never harsh criticism plus its mainly personal, not what they do in their sport. Just naming 3 main athletes he gushes over for a person opposed to fanboying
@@354allday because they don't have a lot of wrong things with them. lol steph is literally the best shooter ever, floys was beating guys bigger than him and still undefeated and MJ is the goat there is no debate here lol. you could make every NBA player Stephen curry size and height. steph would cook all of them
Been saying the same thing about AI fans for years. His fans are so emotional. I have yet to talk with one that can actually use stats to make the claim as to why he was as great as they make him out to be. Don’t get me wrong I understand how great he was, but with context. All you hear is “he played his heart out!” “He changed the game!” “He had kids rocking corn rolls!” Nothing of real substance. This is why I say Westbrook is the modern day AI, all his fans will be able to say is “he played his heart out” and “he averaged triple doubles!!” Smh.
Allegedly JPay wasn’t gonna make the difference
Iverson had a team with Nuggets, early exist in playoffs every year.
I'm not an Iverson fan. But if it's just one big game, I can see him will his team to win that one game. And only that one game He isn't better than Curry as a whole but I think he can take over a game at will better and you do need that in big games. And is inefficient...While Curry is by far the better at playing with a team but struggles at taking over at will when the system isn't working. He's a superstar playing the role of a role player, does it at an all-time great level. But if a good team defense stops the system, he struggles with physicality, disappears in some spots in the finals.
13:00 is spot on
That Portland team should have won multiple champions and if Sabonis comes over when he is first drafted and Zeke used to eat everybody for breakfast Mark Price had some games against him but if that is the case Reggie use to fuck Jordan up
U have compare player 2 player not team 2 team A.I and Steph is razor thin because if Iverson played with Klay,Kd,Shaun,🏆 Iggy, and those guys maybe different story were talkin about. Other than Magic no point guard player has played with that much talent!!! Facts
Louis Mclean A.I was not a PG. He never wanted to share the spotlight therefore your hypothetical scenario is irrelevant.
Klay Thompson and draymond were drafted. Steph isn't razor thin. He's bigger and taller than AI.
i love this guy
Allen I......sounds like Kyrie......hmmmm
Yeah, that directive by Molly was real slick. However, the audacious tongue of the modern woman never ceases to amaze me.
Carmelo and AI are the most overrated players I’ve ever seen since the 90s. What a fucking joke. AI led the Olympics team in 2004 and they flopped. Gimme a break
Curry threw that damn series. Like, Young Judah said before, sports is about narratives, rise and falls of champions, new kids on the blocks, what-ifs, etc.. sports analysts will talk about any damn thing nowadays.. Curry played his role, Now its time to usher in a new era
@ATL 1 pretty much
ATL 1 yup exactly right. especially major series.
Hey C.o.J, when you get a chance, could you check out the video Savannah James plays horse with her son Bryce? I would like for you to check out the illustrations that LeBron James's daughter had on her drawing pad. I'm not requesting for you to do a video just desire for you to check out the illustrations so you can peep out what I peeped.
Chronicles be defending Curry but nitpick Kobe all the time. 😁 I love your channel bruh but I must admit you are a Kobe hater and Dwyane Wade my favorite all time player not Kobe.
He is not a kobe hater he attacks the kobe fangirls
Cordell Williams He does this because people like to overate certain players such as Kobe, A.I, etc. His criticism of those player creates a proper balance. He also praises certain underrated players such Isaiah Thomas, Larry Bird, etc. It’s important to judge players based on facts as opposed to cult of personality.
@ATL 1 You really want Juddah's attention you're a fangirl my guy
Join Me Traveling
Who underrates Bird & Isiah?
Jamal Crawford has better handles than A.I.
Prove me wrong.
Are you seriously saying Steph hit a big shot against the Pelicans who hasn’t ever been in the western conference finals😂😂😂...it that’s not a fanboy I don’t know what is smh
So a "big shot" is predicated on the franchise one is playing against, not time, situation, and score.....I gotcha. I don't think you're mentally qualified to determine what a fanboy is lol. Thanks for viewing the video.
Alright Man Peace.....what bros need to understand is, if it wasn't for Great small guards like I.Thomas & A.I. ..who convinced the L that small guards can not only play , but dominate the game. We might not have even heard of a Step C. or K.Irving and a few others ,or a lot of other small guards that came in the L and faded away, go ask Curry who he Idolized growing up, plus no one would have taken Curry over Iverson in the '96' NBA Draft!! which is one of the greatest drafts of all times! how many H.O.F's where in that draft ?...4, 5, and still counting. When was Curry drafted ??? we can not compare those two totally different era's, Pound for Pound , The Great Allen Iverson is the Greatest small guard to ever play, next to I. Thomas of course!, in NBA History!!.." fanboy of GOD given Raw talent" Peace...
And what's lebrons stats in the finals on game winning or tying shots? 😂😂
Zip, zero, nada. He's actually worse.
you take them kobe "clutch" #s to the bank even called him a overrated clutch player based on them but want nothin to do with the steph 0-8 "clutch" numbers iima firm believer that these clutch statistics provided by ESPN and FOX are baseless cant put a statistic on bein cluth unless you are literally countin game winners. is ice'n a game with FTs not clutch? killin a opponents run with a made basket not clutch? rippin of 15 straight FGM not win in regulation but win in O.T not clutch? but if you are goin to use them then use them for everybody
Honestly “with the fate of the universe on the line” in a game 7, we need a 3, I’m giving the ball to KD 1st, Klay 2nd, and Steph Curry 3rd.
When has Klay hit a game winner??😳😳😳😳
Where is klays game winner in the playoffs? Please show me one. Klay benefits from being on Steph's team due to his spacing and being doubled.
@@Nathaniel2657 lol. Crickets of course. They see game 6 Klay and that's it.
@@willsmooth1355 But there were no game winners.
@@milesaheadpodcast EXACTLY. It so bad that an idiot a few weeks ago even went as far to say that klay carried Steph in the 2016 okc game 6 and that he usually bails Steph out in the playoffs. One of the dumbest post ive seen here in regards to sports.
bro so those 3 years and playoff where mj got kicked out by the pistons did they expose him y all like kevin garrnet who never been to the finals with the timberwolves but you want hope on steph curry who was playing with a dislocated finger and a bum ankles and half of beat up team stop playing remember this when the warriors went 73-9 before kd guess who they went thru the spurs with kawhi and tim duncan on it so stop playing with this man name
Yea-steph might be the only player that if he get 30+ teams lose by 10+ on the regular
Khalie Benjii
He's a front-runner.
ATL 1
There were behind the whole game, and lost by double digits.
@@JamesBrown-bz2xv A front runner with 3 titles. I will take that all day everyday instead of ringless beard and westbrick.
Will Smooth
His team won those.
I didn't write anything about Westbrook ot Harden. Get out of your feelings fanboy.
@@JamesBrown-bz2xv lol. Ok hater. Steph is the leader that won 3 chips. Without Steph there are zero titles. A front runner that the opposition couldn't stop him to begin with. You haters are clueless i swear. Go cry somewhere with your Front runner nonsense.
Never seen Curry dunk on ANYBODY! (Allen Iverson has) ANNNNNND.. Iverson played DEFENSE!! So I don't agree with you on that part.
curry has lead in steals too guy...
God so leading in steals says nothing in general. they have good pass perception and a quick first step. thats all it says. curry does play defense tho, not the best cause he's not the biggest but he really puts in effort
Iverson had blocks! AND perimeter blocks! First team ALL defense! And not to mention he was a CLOSER! But I digress.
Madara Uchiha iverson was never 1st team defense idk why you jus lied like that, www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iversal01.html he average .3 bpg most of his career, curry does the same, what are you sayin really?
Madara Uchiha steph curry has fucked up a few times but so have all greats. iverson took a game off of the kobe shaq lakers and that was a great achievement but other then that he wasn't a winner.
I know a lot was going against Steph for being able to win the finals but it's not like he didn't have his chances and really wasn't like in 2016. Were the you know the series was rigged . So you are kinda making excuses cause Steph had three opurtunities at the end of game 6 to make a game sealing type of shot that would be clutch to push the series to 7. And Steph did kinda get exposed cause for the most part if KD didn't play in game 5 the warriors would have lost probably in 5. And Although that may seem far fetched considering that he only played like 12 mins his +/- was better than Steph's for the entire series. And saying you can't hold him to the same standards of a MJ or someone of that elk is really saying like hes not on that level. So how impactful can he be if he can't make his impact felt during the biggest stage his impact doesn't really win. Like you really can't call him the greatest shooter if you can't do it under pressure.
But give me the name of he who had no bench, who had defences focus primarily on him implementing box-and-one cuz nobody else is a real threat besides him, who's got to the finals five years consecutively running through the tougher conference, who rarely gets the calls other big superstars get more often than not..and still managed to deliver and win the championship.
I'll wait an eternity.
isaac reyes
Yes.
If( allegedly) he's an atg, then he has to be beld to the same standard.
bob the builder
People act like Steph Curry just failed. They didn't lose just because Kevin Durant was out and Klay. He had Iggy, no bench and an injured Looney. Even if he had the 2015 bench with Klay and no KD they would have won.
Imperial data...
A.I vs Curry isn’t even debatable in my opinion. Curry all day twice on Sunday.
curry rarely has to hit it in the 4th cause he destroys teams in the 3rd lmfao
Iverson better than Curry. It took Kobe and Shaq to defeat AI. Curry not clutch.. But these videos are. Keep pushing. MA
But anyway peace
6-21 lol
@7:19 uh no that would be Lebron and Savannah James...the first family of the nba...don’t @ me
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