I remember some years back, I serviced the mono-wiper on my Mercedes 190e. On some cars, you could just take the cover off the top to grease the internals etc., but on my car you took the whole assembly off, and disassembled it from the bottom. Everything went well, except for the fact I didn't time it correctly. In the end I found information on how to time it, and it works great now. Thanks for the video. Cheers, Rob.
@@zambam3 Yes I remember working on one years ago when I ran the garage but I can’t remember what I did. Something about getting it timed correctly after sorting out the seized mechanism. Has that sort of ram effect to throw the blade out to the edge of the screen. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@@DKarGarage Yes they are very capable . The factory service interval is at 6k . I would go for a 2400 for high mileage use as they are a bit more robust.
@@marksitaliangarage i wish I could find a decent 2.4, I found a 2.0l for 32k runs and drive but needs some work to interior, wondering if I should pull the trigger on it
@@stephenlmckeown1439 There are far simpler ways of making the wipers work. The Lucas system fitted to the Maserati is so much easier. It is still available on the aftermarket and I have fitted the whole kit to the Amphicar. But I must admit I quite enjoy the complexity of the Dino Coupe system for no other reason than it is interesting to see something different. The Coupe is a real quality car and when you get the doors working properly they do sound great. I made new door skins during the restoration you can see them in the ROMA videos .
You're not going to believe it Mark but this week I am working on the wipers on my Dino Spider. Took the panel off and found out the motor is MISSING completely. I think 30 years ago the owner couldn't find a replacement and just chucked it. Plenty of motors still available today. We are getting closer to finishing the mechanical and electric issues after months of work. Thanks for the great videos!
Wiper motors for 2 litre Dinos are hard to find, and only shared with the Fiat 124 AC coupe IIRC. The gears break and seize the motor, and they burn out. Available replacements need messing about with relays to make them work
If memory serves, I had a lot of friction in the cable connecting the LH wiper gear to the motor drive. Cleaned rust out w WD-40 then sprayed some lightweight aeresol hinge (?) grease in there. Also the vertical bushing drives that hold the blades had way to much resistance and required similar treatment. As always, a tip of ther hat for the great work you do.
@@yellowrat77 They do suffer with corrosion especially in the wheel box shaft. It is possible to strip them down to clean it out and lubricant but the spline part is a press fit so can be tricky. Some if not all of the 2400 have bolt down wiper arms and appropriate shafts in the wheel box so they are easy to deal with. I had been through the whole system on ROMA years ago. It’s actually the job that it actually came in for originally and then stayed for the restoration.
@@marksitaliangarage To avoid pressing wheelbox shafts out, I drilled a small hole through the bodies so I could get penetrant into them, and worked away it them
We used to use Devcon Flexane, castable rubber for making these coupling spiders. That was before Sikaflex. Flexane was expensive but brilliantly versatile.
@@MadDogMark11 Sikaflex was the go to for years but now my local supplier carries Tiger Seal I’m sure it is pretty much the same thing and at £10 a tube it is good value. It does tend to go off in the end of the tube but as you have seen I tend to get my moneys worth by sticking a screw driver in the tube and pushing it out of the side. It’s very versatile and has got me out of trouble on many occasions.
What a fantastic video, thank you, Mark! My 2.4l has the problem that only the intermittent wiper mode is not working. The continuous mode is fine. I have tried to change the relay and the wiper motor itself, but it didnt help... I think many Dinos have this problem and I just dont know why.
...I just checked it this weekend: the pump is plugged in and works perfectly: it squirts water onto the windscreen and makes the wipers move. I am still clueless why the intermittent mode doesnt work...
@@maseraticc2834 Unfortunately no they don’t seem to have any interest in their heritage. Well certainly not reproducing anything from their back catalogue.
@@CraigJones-x5t The white nylon spline parts are what was left of the original. The black coupler is from a 2400 unit which looks different, I assume that it was modified during the production and development phase. I made my one with the steel sleeve to allow the Tiger seal something to bond to, it’s just something that I thought would work. The original design would not have this sleeve. Just a sort of bonded rubber coupling.
I remember some years back, I serviced the mono-wiper on my Mercedes 190e. On some cars, you could just take the cover off the top to grease the internals etc., but on my car you took the whole assembly off, and disassembled it from the bottom. Everything went well, except for the fact I didn't time it correctly. In the end I found information on how to time it, and it works great now. Thanks for the video. Cheers, Rob.
@@zambam3 Yes I remember working on one years ago when I ran the garage but I can’t remember what I did. Something about getting it timed correctly after sorting out the seized mechanism. Has that sort of ram effect to throw the blade out to the edge of the screen. Glad you enjoyed the video.
What a cool repair 👍 Roma is such a beautiful car 😉
@@gearhead9828 Thank you !
That Dino Coupe is in excellent condition, really nice to see.
@@JoakimMiller67 The Dino Coupe is called ROMA as it had Rome plates I restored it a few years back. There are videos about it on the channel.
@@marksitaliangarage Oh, very nicely done then, I will check out those videos
@@marksitaliangarage I would love one day a coupe fiat dino, just wondering are they reliable for enthusiast to use it more than 10k miles a year?
@@DKarGarage Yes they are very capable . The factory service interval is at 6k . I would go for a 2400 for high mileage use as they are a bit more robust.
@@marksitaliangarage i wish I could find a decent 2.4, I found a 2.0l for 32k runs and drive but needs some work to interior, wondering if I should pull the trigger on it
What a complicated system and a very nice repair. Those doors sound fantastic must have taken a lot of time to get them that 👌
@@stephenlmckeown1439 There are far simpler ways of making the wipers work. The Lucas system fitted to the Maserati is so much easier. It is still available on the aftermarket and I have fitted the whole kit to the Amphicar. But I must admit I quite enjoy the complexity of the Dino Coupe system for no other reason than it is interesting to see something different.
The Coupe is a real quality car and when you get the doors working properly they do sound great. I made new door skins during the restoration you can see them in the ROMA videos .
You're not going to believe it Mark but this week I am working on the wipers on my Dino Spider. Took the panel off and found out the motor is MISSING completely. I think 30 years ago the owner couldn't find a replacement and just chucked it. Plenty of motors still available today. We are getting closer to finishing the mechanical and electric issues after months of work. Thanks for the great videos!
@@mikelfrance-l6x That’s how you add lightness !
He must have been a Colin Chapman disciple .
@@marksitaliangarage What I have to sort out next are the 3 lever controls by the hand brake. Mine are completely frozen.
@@pietrobuffone9898 Yep. But I found them from several sources.
Wiper motors for 2 litre Dinos are hard to find, and only shared with the Fiat 124 AC coupe IIRC. The gears break and seize the motor, and they burn out. Available replacements need messing about with relays to make them work
@@mikelfrance-l6x take the lot out and soak in penetrating oil. . If the cables don’t free up you will have to make new.
Good luck
If memory serves, I had a lot of friction in the cable connecting the LH wiper gear to the motor drive. Cleaned rust out w WD-40 then sprayed some lightweight aeresol hinge (?) grease in there. Also the vertical bushing drives that hold the blades had way to much resistance and required similar treatment. As always, a tip of ther hat for the great work you do.
@@yellowrat77 They do suffer with corrosion especially in the wheel box shaft. It is possible to strip them down to clean it out and lubricant but the spline part is a press fit so can be tricky. Some if not all of the 2400 have bolt down wiper arms and appropriate shafts in the wheel box so they are easy to deal with.
I had been through the whole system on ROMA years ago. It’s actually the job that it actually came in for originally and then stayed for the restoration.
@@marksitaliangarage To avoid pressing wheelbox shafts out, I drilled a small hole through the bodies so I could get penetrant into them, and worked away it them
We used to use Devcon Flexane, castable rubber for making these coupling spiders. That was before Sikaflex. Flexane was expensive but brilliantly versatile.
@@MadDogMark11 Sikaflex was the go to for years but now my local supplier carries Tiger Seal I’m sure it is pretty much the same thing and at £10 a tube it is good value. It does tend to go off in the end of the tube but as you have seen I tend to get my moneys worth by sticking a screw driver in the tube and pushing it out of the side. It’s very versatile and has got me out of trouble on many occasions.
What a fantastic video, thank you, Mark! My 2.4l has the problem that only the intermittent wiper mode is not working. The continuous mode is fine. I have tried to change the relay and the wiper motor itself, but it didnt help... I think many Dinos have this problem and I just dont know why.
@@bertone83 is the wash foot pump plugged in ?
@@marksitaliangarage yes it is, but I will check the electric connections again. Thanks for the hint!
...I just checked it this weekend: the pump is plugged in and works perfectly: it squirts water onto the windscreen and makes the wipers move. I am still clueless why the intermittent mode doesnt work...
Brilliant job Mark and brilliant video too! Do Magneti Marelli still make many parts for historic and classic cars?
@@maseraticc2834 Unfortunately no they don’t seem to have any interest in their heritage. Well certainly not reproducing anything from their back catalogue.
@@marksitaliangarage That's a shame. Just like Maserati though who don't make an effort to support their historic cars either..
How did you know what the coupling should look like? Did the part you had come from another Dino?
@@CraigJones-x5t The white nylon spline parts are what was left of the original.
The black coupler is from a 2400 unit which looks different, I assume that it was modified during the production and development phase. I made my one with the steel sleeve to allow the Tiger seal something to bond to, it’s just something that I thought would work. The original design would not have this sleeve. Just a sort of bonded rubber coupling.