What "Usage Rate" says about MJ, Kobe, and Westbrook | NBA Advanced Statistics Ep. 1

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  • @MDJiang
    @MDJiang  7 років тому +89

    I'd LOVE TO KNOW what you thought, since I did get pretty controversial towards the end of the video (but hey, no controversy no fun) If you use twitter, make sure to follow me twitter.com/marcdjiang I reply to every single tweet! Thanks
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    Marc

    • @scrub2789
      @scrub2789 7 років тому +9

      MDJ Finally someone else who understands usage rate and knows why the thunder were only first round team.Also Great Video:D

    • @ehjaybee85
      @ehjaybee85 7 років тому +8

      MDJ You just made my new favorite channel list.

    • @annafink1134
      @annafink1134 7 років тому

      Great video

    • @xr8dmoose135
      @xr8dmoose135 7 років тому

      MDJ superbly done as always

    • @joeyemery7347
      @joeyemery7347 7 років тому +3

      Great video like always! I love statistics lol. You should make the next one like win shares or BPM or something.

  • @battle-wornrobottauntproce1369
    @battle-wornrobottauntproce1369 6 років тому +54

    Yo did this dude predict Oladipo?

    • @liammcdonnell5632
      @liammcdonnell5632 5 років тому +3

      im watching this again after 2019 and its kinda crazy how right he was

  • @Zemerza
    @Zemerza 6 років тому +27

    6:30 He called it. Oladipo got 2017-2018 MIP lmao.

  • @ryuboi1558
    @ryuboi1558 7 років тому +251

    Your so underrated this video was great

    • @zachh13
      @zachh13 7 років тому +25

      ChuckBoi you're*

  • @edmichaelalobog8886
    @edmichaelalobog8886 7 років тому +81

    Bro I knew it, since the first video that I've watched from you I knew that you'll be on the line of the Korzembas, Dom2ks, Jmxhighrollers, and SDCS. I know I sound too dramatic, but your contents are just so lit, and I'm just proud to say that I've been here before 3k subs. Keep up the good work.

    • @DingoDIDeatmybaby
      @DingoDIDeatmybaby 7 років тому

      Mikaél Rence What's SDCS?

    • @deathitself6985
      @deathitself6985 7 років тому +2

      +Dick Bütt SDC Daily NBA news channel kind of its great also

    • @qedydu5946
      @qedydu5946 6 років тому +1

      Mike korzemba just looks at bleacher report and base his facts off of stats, not eye test.

    • @bestplanet8440
      @bestplanet8440 5 років тому

      i was here at around 13k

  • @ehjaybee85
    @ehjaybee85 7 років тому +23

    Mike Korzemba X Numberphille. I did not know how bad I wanted this.

  • @PerspectiveSports
    @PerspectiveSports 7 років тому +2

    This video is amazing. Completely enhanced the way I view the usage rate stat which is becoming very popular due to the new analytics phase in the NBA. More people need to see this, great video man, can't wait for episode two!

  • @cheese7960
    @cheese7960 7 років тому +9

    You're one of the best nba UA-camrs because you actually back up your opinions with facts. Been here since 1k keep grinding

    • @MDJiang
      @MDJiang  7 років тому +1

      +ElijahSucksAtVideoGames appreciate it

    • @cheese7960
      @cheese7960 7 років тому +1

      oh shit a youtuber actually responded to my comment.... I feel Blessed!

  • @rayme4500
    @rayme4500 6 років тому +4

    man u were spot on on oladipo.

  • @yanng.1131
    @yanng.1131 6 років тому +4

    It is crazy how he was talking about dipo, im rewatching this great video btw

  • @ledgnr197gaming5
    @ledgnr197gaming5 7 років тому +62

    I now prefer u over Korzemba ever so slightly. Keep it up.

    • @metroid209
      @metroid209 7 років тому +14

      I can't stand Korzembas voice, he talks to loud/angry.

    • @ebrahimalfardan8823
      @ebrahimalfardan8823 7 років тому +2

      jms209 Both are data miners all they say is history, history. WTF don't they know there is a first time to everything. Humans did not exist for the most of history, therefore, statistically speaking, history tells us that humans should not exist now.

    • @ItachiUchiha-dh3jh
      @ItachiUchiha-dh3jh 7 років тому

      Are you saying that westbrook could win a championship by himself? Cause if you are that's blasphemy.

    • @ebrahimalfardan8823
      @ebrahimalfardan8823 7 років тому +1

      Itachi Uchiha No, you are not saying it right, it's BBBBBLASPHEMOUS

    • @carterwatson126
      @carterwatson126 7 років тому +1

      ebrahim alfardan what are you talking about lol

  • @cptwiesel
    @cptwiesel 6 років тому +2

    6:27 LOL, pretty amazing that you said that BEFORE Oladipo's outburst this season!

  • @costinbosoaga8393
    @costinbosoaga8393 7 років тому

    What I love about you is that you dont just look at stats from an outsider point, you look at stats and what does it mean for others on the court. Big W.

  • @malikdonegan314
    @malikdonegan314 7 років тому +14

    do win shares next

  • @rtg6885
    @rtg6885 7 років тому +10

    MDJ is so underrated u deserve like 250k

    • @certifiedfinest5065
      @certifiedfinest5065 7 років тому +1

      RT G he's Asian so it's gonna be hard

    • @metal3545
      @metal3545 7 років тому

      why do i keep seeing you everywhere lol

  • @darronk4344
    @darronk4344 7 років тому

    Hey Mark, I think that you are one of the greatest youtubers and you actually know what you are talking about. Unlike most basketball youtubers. Please keep making more videos like this. I really like how you use statistics to determine what you are talking about, and not just random warriors bandwagon shit.

  • @piotrromanski6246
    @piotrromanski6246 7 років тому +2

    Wow MDJ, great moves, keep it up, proud od you!

  • @forshzzlemahnzzle2857
    @forshzzlemahnzzle2857 7 років тому +60

    It's crazy that Kobe didn't even win MVP in his best Statistical Season

    • @Teece007
      @Teece007 7 років тому +53

      For shzzle Mah nzzle even crazier that bill Russell won MVP the same season the big O averaged a triple double and Wilt averaged over 50 points and 20 rebound

    • @bigxchubstv6056
      @bigxchubstv6056 7 років тому +30

      Even crazier that falcons blew. 28-3 lead

    • @ronaldomendoza7578
      @ronaldomendoza7578 7 років тому +1

      ItzYaBoy ShreK Not really, they just suck

    • @DQ_Senpai
      @DQ_Senpai 7 років тому

      ItzYaBoy ShreK God bless you (I'm a Patriot fan)

    • @abesong9697
      @abesong9697 7 років тому

      Yeah Ikr he averaged 35(although he was on a terrible team)

  • @jeanson3172
    @jeanson3172 7 років тому +29

    Easily the smartest basketball channel on UA-cam.

    • @MDJiang
      @MDJiang  7 років тому +3

      appreciate it!

    • @bigxchubstv6056
      @bigxchubstv6056 7 років тому

      MDJ when u get big just know I was the 30110th sub

    • @stillgabe3735
      @stillgabe3735 7 років тому

      he is asian

    • @jeanson3172
      @jeanson3172 7 років тому

      GabeCentral I know

    • @LucasRodrigues-rx6ui
      @LucasRodrigues-rx6ui 7 років тому

      debatable. Korzemba, Dom2k, swishout, flightreacts, uhh nvm first three😂

  • @danielmetser7584
    @danielmetser7584 7 років тому +1

    Amazing video man, love how critically you think about every topic

  • @clampzzz
    @clampzzz 7 років тому +196

    Welcome to the NBA draft, you know how it goes
    1.Warriors
    2.Thunder
    3.Hawks
    4.Nets
    5.Pelicans
    6.Pistons
    7.Bucks
    8.Heat
    9.Magic
    10.Kings
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    31-99.Undrafted

  • @d9b9
    @d9b9 7 років тому +5

    New fav channel. 0 bs just facts and some opinions and entertainment

  • @nateshyam5761
    @nateshyam5761 4 роки тому +3

    Great video man but I wouldn’t agree entirely, if you look solely at playoff usage rates, one player has had a usage rate of over 38% and won a championship. That player being Michael Jordan in the 1993 playoffs. In fact he’s had a usage rate above 35% in 4 of his 6 championships. Only one other player has come close to those numbers and won a championship, that being Hakeem in the 1995 playoffs with a usage rate of 35%. The craziest thing is Michael Jordan’s 1993 playoff usage rate is the 5th highest of all time and the 3 players (Westbrook twice) above him all exited in the first round. So I think you’re completely right in saying that a team can’t win it all with one player. Unless you have a player like Michael Jordan, he gives you a pretty good chance 😏.
    For those wondering Lebron (2012) and Kobe (2009 and 2010) have the next highest usage rates at 33% in a championship season. Surprisingly the same % as MJs lowest usage rate championship seasons 🐐.

  • @Sebastian-mi8ek
    @Sebastian-mi8ek 7 років тому +3

    You are growing bro!! Been here since 2000 subs and you've blown up! Congratsbro

    • @MyKneeHurts
      @MyKneeHurts 6 років тому

      same, bben here since he told his followers to subscribbe lol. i was like first 100 subs

  • @praneelhawaldar7714
    @praneelhawaldar7714 7 років тому +1

    Yo this video was so good you should make more and it really helped me understand usage rate better

  • @im_Smitty
    @im_Smitty 7 років тому

    Your vids are getting better and better, good to see you grow

  • @Dom-tk4nb
    @Dom-tk4nb 7 років тому

    Finally a youtube channel that understands basketball

  • @forshzzlemahnzzle2857
    @forshzzlemahnzzle2857 7 років тому +21

    Westbrook minus well have went for the MVP cuz there was no way he was gonna come close to win a championship

    • @joeyp3422
      @joeyp3422 7 років тому +4

      Minus well?

    • @forshzzlemahnzzle2857
      @forshzzlemahnzzle2857 7 років тому

      JoeyP might at well lol my bad

    • @crb1476
      @crb1476 7 років тому +3

      Doorman while having one of the youngest rosters, it also had one of the most incompetent ones. Westbrook is the only reason that the thunder even scratched the playoffs and that's why he won MVP. Because he was the MOST VALUABLE. take him away and the thunder are nothing, and the young talent will be put into a situation where they have to lead a team, and they for sure don't know how to do that.

    • @thechameleon2636
      @thechameleon2636 7 років тому +2

      Crab Goswami they would have made the playoffs without Westbrook! They had a very good deep roster! He was the least valuable player in the League!

    • @bluerabbitjeevs
      @bluerabbitjeevs 7 років тому +2

      Crab Goswami
      I dont you think you understand what im arguing. Personally i think Harden should've won cos he was putting up similar stats but his team won 8 more games, but idc anymore about that Westbrook also deserved it.
      What i dont like is that Westbrook and the Thunder organisation basically ran their offence to get Russ the MVP rather than to develop their core and plan for the future e.g. Adams and Kanter would box out for Russ to get uncontested rebounds (which he led league with 8.5 out of his total 10.7... like wtf need i say more) - stats.nba.com/players/rebounding/#!?sort=REB_UNCONTEST&dir=1 - or when he would play garbage time in games just to record a triple double.
      They talk about the Warriors harming the league with superteam formations and abusing the 3pt line, but at least theyre trying to win. IMO Russ is doing more harm to the league cos he's just setting a precedence as to who is worthy of an MVP. I wouldnt be surprised now to see down the line some fuckwit egotistic talented NBA player winning MVP one year by putting up retarded stats but his team not making playoffs. Again my opinion, thats not what i wanna see.

  • @donjuan3085
    @donjuan3085 7 років тому

    I know your Channel 2 days and it became my favourite ! You deserve a million subs

  • @jamesh7469
    @jamesh7469 7 років тому

    Holy hell how am I not subscribed! Fantastic stuff from an analytical, level-headed fan. Notifications on 👌🏽

  • @ianburke203
    @ianburke203 7 років тому

    I love your videos man. I really think the professionalism and expertise you bring to the videos will lead to you blowing up soon. Keep working!

  • @AntSoiree
    @AntSoiree 7 років тому

    OUTRO ON FLEEK!! CANT WAIT TO SAY I BEEN HERE SINCE 20K

  • @pacerfan5651
    @pacerfan5651 7 років тому +5

    Awesome video MDJ! Please continue this series.

  • @clydecledera2793
    @clydecledera2793 7 років тому

    This is probably one of the best videos you have right now, MDJ! So intelligent and well-researched. I usually hate numbers but this one hits it well. Keep up the good work! i agree 100%! P.S. Still contending Harden for MVP

  • @quiarawilliams5996
    @quiarawilliams5996 7 років тому

    MDJ your my favourite basketball youtuber and I watch and liked all your videos im your #1 fan (I hope)

  • @acetalkssports5849
    @acetalkssports5849 6 років тому +3

    Kobe fans: how could you compare Kobe to Westbrook
    MJ fans: how could you compare mj to Westbrook
    Russ fans: How could you compare Russ to mj

  • @db2ez
    @db2ez 7 років тому

    This is a great video you're the GOAT nba youtuber analyst

  • @samirsworld
    @samirsworld 7 років тому +41

    Correlation does not equal causation. You're saying usage rate leads to losing, but the entire reason these 3 had high usage rates was because without it, the team would lose even more. If Kobe lowered his usage rate, who would make up for those possessions? Smush Parker?

    • @VitorRedes
      @VitorRedes 7 років тому +4

      SGA maybe it means that if you have such a high usage rate either your team sucks or you are not making anyone better, or both.

    • @aksuited4471
      @aksuited4471 6 років тому +3

      Best comment by far. I totally disagree with his conclusion that a high usage rate is generally bad because he doesn't take the alternatives into consideration. That's sumply an illogical argument. If you have an excellent scorer with a high field goal percentage in a very bad team, why would it be bad if he had a high usage rate? That's simply the best alternative. In some cases like with Westbrook it's not the best alternative because he had high potential around him, but you can't just assume that for every case. So it's case dependent whether a high usage rate is good or bad.

    • @theartofcompetition5965
      @theartofcompetition5965 6 років тому

      well i mean since since your basically stuck with the teamates you have (more or less) let those players have a higher usage . because your star player isnt going to improve much but your trash teamates will improve at a rapid rate. so yes let smush parker make up for those possessions. kobe had it backwards when he frustratingly said "wtf am i supposed to do pass the ball to smush parker and cris mihm?" yes! you should kobe!

  • @jackford5937
    @jackford5937 7 років тому

    keep putting quality content out there and your channel is gonna take off 👊🏽🙌🏾

  • @jamesli1762
    @jamesli1762 7 років тому

    I love your statistic explanations!!

  • @TheBennyBenster
    @TheBennyBenster 7 років тому

    really like this channel, actually educated content. keep it up.

  • @mattm400
    @mattm400 7 років тому

    Love your channel. Keep up the great videos, so interesting. I love the fact that you include statistical data (maths)

  • @freeorii
    @freeorii 7 років тому

    Great insights. Would be great to see you become a part of an NBA coaching staff in the future.

  • @jimmymcnulty4759
    @jimmymcnulty4759 6 років тому

    I just discovered your channel and I cant stop watching! You re doing a great job, keep it up!

  • @aznguyener
    @aznguyener 7 років тому

    Love how non-bias you are! Quality content! Good shit!

  • @dylanhick5068
    @dylanhick5068 7 років тому

    This video was amazing bro please keep grinding more videos I'm loving your Channel

  • @willcerf757
    @willcerf757 7 років тому

    Great vid. My one qualm is that by Russel Westbrooks accounts Westbrook never "chased triple doubles". The story line over and over again in post game interviews was that his single concern was the "w" and his triple doubles were a byproduct of his and OKC's play style. At times he seemed unaware that he got a triple double and even lamented the media obsession with the statistic. Although it's possible Westbrook and OKC might have understated RWs commitment to the triple double there is nothing (besides results) that suggest the organization was more commited to RW achieving triple doubles than the team succeeding. That being said this video provides great insight into why it might be a better strategy to have RW take less shots. Also, you show a correlation (although you could have used a much larger sample size) but not a causation. Maybe MJ, Kobe, and RWs Usage Rate was so high because there teams were bad, not the other way around. It would be interesting to explore the relationship between offensive metrics of team mates and the "franchise players" usage rate. A PGs job description includes facilitating for their team mates and making them better. In fact you could argue this falls under the job description of every position on an elite team (see GSW). This is where LBJ famously excels. Maybe RW could do a better job. It is a team sport after all.

  • @Vawerewolf65
    @Vawerewolf65 7 років тому

    This channel is so underrated

  • @footballsong
    @footballsong 7 років тому

    I agree with you on a few issues. Good video I'm watching

  • @ethanchang5449
    @ethanchang5449 7 років тому

    MDJ keeping it real as usual

  • @MrJikomania
    @MrJikomania 7 років тому

    Yo just found this channels and I wanna say keep it up man! I love these in depth NBA stat vids

  • @davidola2051
    @davidola2051 7 років тому

    You've got yourself a new subscriber. Great video dude keep it up

  • @rylanwhite1756
    @rylanwhite1756 7 років тому

    Love the Video MDJ, keep talking fax! 🔥

  • @josephsingh5377
    @josephsingh5377 7 років тому +3

    This guy is hands down the smartest and most insightful NBA youtuber

  • @Thespartanassassin1
    @Thespartanassassin1 7 років тому

    I believe you had a good point there... I love Westbrook, but I totally agree with everything you said, good job

  • @isaigarcia9380
    @isaigarcia9380 7 років тому

    Great vid! Never really understood usage rate until I saw this

  • @djokidjango8866
    @djokidjango8866 6 років тому

    great vid! always wanted to know about it ... got it! thanks! greetings from austria!

  • @dylanm1174
    @dylanm1174 7 років тому

    This channel is the GOAT🐐

    • @dylanm1174
      @dylanm1174 2 роки тому

      Still the GOAT. Miss you MDJ hope you're doing well! This was my first ever youtube comment & I am so glad to see it was on your channel.

  • @qinwoodruff969
    @qinwoodruff969 7 років тому

    Great analysis. Respect.

  • @boatboystrackclub6528
    @boatboystrackclub6528 7 років тому +3

    You're like a better Mike Korzemba

  • @fjmp5096
    @fjmp5096 7 років тому

    honestly bro, i love your vids😄😄

  • @modernhoops8719
    @modernhoops8719 7 років тому

    Great video man totally and i believe that was one of the main reasons why KD left westbrook. but love how you go in detail with your vids and keep it up👌👍

    • @MDJiang
      @MDJiang  7 років тому

      +ModernHoops appreciate it homie

  • @ItsTheMunz
    @ItsTheMunz 7 років тому

    Great channel and analysis. I think the 2001 Sixers are a good example of how this style of basketball can take you really, really far, but at the end of the day, can't quite win you the chip. Granted, that 2001 squad mighta had the chops to beat any other team as those Lakers were pretty unbeatable. But they kinda showcased how it just falls short of being a complete enough package to win it all.

  • @elsipotesalmarroquin3141
    @elsipotesalmarroquin3141 6 років тому

    thank , thank , thank you i always try to xplein that you did a great job !!!!!!!!!!! that is why james is the best plyer in the world he cares about his teamates !!!!!

  • @lonewolfvideobball
    @lonewolfvideobball 7 років тому

    Nice job!
    Totally agree about RW.
    And I agree about assists in usage%, it pisses me too. They should add assists to the formula at least as + 0.4 AST / Tm AST and secondary assists somehow too.

  • @theartofcompetition5965
    @theartofcompetition5965 6 років тому

    preach brother. westbrook and kobe think "my teamates are trash so i should try to do everything myself " (even though they will still fall short of a chip). but if they give their teamates an opportunity to improve the team will get better instead of stay the same or even worse as mdj suggests!

  • @supahotkicks7862
    @supahotkicks7862 7 років тому

    Yo never thought of it this way, dope vid

  • @thesourpretzel
    @thesourpretzel 7 років тому +1

    love this video

  • @DankDoggo
    @DankDoggo 7 років тому

    Can't wait until you cross 100k subs

    • @MDJiang
      @MDJiang  7 років тому

      +Marc Waitforit 🙌

  • @juliothom2408
    @juliothom2408 7 років тому

    That's why I've always thought Bird was underrated by many. His best usage rate years are nowhere near that of a Kobe, MJ, LBJ, or RW and yet he still went 28/10/7 on 50/40/90 splits during his Prime.

  • @pieroangela1119
    @pieroangela1119 6 років тому

    Your channel is amazing

  • @meldeebueno
    @meldeebueno 7 років тому

    Great analysis👌

  • @MrMusiKlovr
    @MrMusiKlovr 7 років тому

    Nice video. Subscribed!

  • @alex-h.
    @alex-h. 7 років тому

    subbed. you gonna be big soon haha

  • @stywoke3015
    @stywoke3015 7 років тому

    Great video🔥

  • @orenlevi4329
    @orenlevi4329 7 років тому

    great video, super informative and super fun. I do think you can get a little caught up and overstate things - Westbrook did not choose MVP over a ring, for example. he didn't have a chance to contend this year as you said yourself. and also, there are more components to this than you show, while I agree with most of it. there are emotional aspects, and competitive aspects that make those players who they are, and you can't separate what makes them superior athletes overall from what makes them a bad teammates in the course of a single possession. keep doing your thing. you are very good at it.

  • @BT-vv1il
    @BT-vv1il 7 років тому

    I would like to propose a video for this series, advance statistics for why Mike korzemba calls people not human

  • @thesourpretzel
    @thesourpretzel 7 років тому +1

    OMG we just hit 30k congrats

    • @MDJiang
      @MDJiang  7 років тому +1

      thanks man!

  • @redace6649
    @redace6649 7 років тому

    I like your analyses :)

  • @sleightlyhandy889
    @sleightlyhandy889 7 років тому

    Great video! This one was really fun to watch.
    It's also worth mentioning that the only 2 teams that actually contended whilst having a top 15 highest usage rate players where the 2000- 2001 Sixers, with #10 Iverson, And 2011 - 12 Lakers, who had #12 kobe. Of those 2, I think it is safe to say that the main reason AI made the finals was because dikemebe mutombo doesn't need the ball to defend, So AI could do his thing. However, this coildnt continue the nect few seasons, since the tean was more rounded, and no one got anything done cuz ai had the ball.
    And there are the 2011 12 lakers, who kinda failed in the playoffs, But we're said to contend in the main season. However, when you get to the playoffs, you out your best stars out there, And andrew Bynum, pay gasol, matt barnes, and ron artest are simply not going to be able to do anything if kobe has 35 percent usage. Same reason the superteam they built the following year failed.
    Hmm. Why and how superteams didn't work would be an interesting topic.

  • @pyschopancake
    @pyschopancake 7 років тому

    I agree with your points even from the perspective of a Westbrook fan

  • @austinkavrar9259
    @austinkavrar9259 7 років тому

    Awesome video do more of these

  • @Krillinish2
    @Krillinish2 7 місяців тому

    Watching this for the first time 6 years later.

  • @ledgnr197gaming5
    @ledgnr197gaming5 7 років тому +20

    Also I have to put out there that Westbrook's teammates were MAGNITUDES better defensively than Harden's. Westbrook didn't play defense at all but they were still a great defensive team in terms of rating last year.

    • @JoseRamirez-hh4km
      @JoseRamirez-hh4km 7 років тому +11

      Ledgnr197gaming Beverley, ariza, capela...are you good?

    • @asherandrew6563
      @asherandrew6563 7 років тому +1

      Ledgnr197gaming the rockets were a decently defensive team tho. Especially in the playoffs where they cranked up their defense too top 7. At one point they were top 5. OKC is that much better it's just they got a lot of big guys who protect the paint. The rockets have more perimeter defenders rather than paint ones.

    • @ericaugusto758
      @ericaugusto758 7 років тому +7

      B Er "mike d'antoni, coach of the year, who was great in DEFENSE"

    • @ijinxi2141
      @ijinxi2141 7 років тому +7

      B Er you either dont know what your talking about or lying to prove a point dantoni doesn't care AT ALL about defense his motto is why play defense if you can outscore them anyway

    • @ledgnr197gaming5
      @ledgnr197gaming5 7 років тому +2

      B Er mike d'antoni is NOTORIOUS for having horrific defensive teams. He has gotten clowned for it over the years.

  • @calebparks1032
    @calebparks1032 7 років тому

    Love your vids

  • @imnotapeasant5477
    @imnotapeasant5477 7 років тому

    Learn something new everyday

  • @eba0202
    @eba0202 7 років тому

    all facts bro great video

  • @madhavmathur2749
    @madhavmathur2749 6 років тому +1

    What about dribbling with the four things you can do with the ball.

  • @austin78993
    @austin78993 7 років тому +1

    Also, by being MVP, Westbrook's value increases to other free agents/stars. I.E. Paul George who only wanted to play in LA is now content with playing with a triple double averaging MVP caliber beast because he might be able to make it to the conference finals

  • @Googoogagabanana
    @Googoogagabanana 7 років тому

    I completely agree

  • @bubblebass2166
    @bubblebass2166 7 років тому

    You are right about high usage causing a team to not be successful, but I think Westbrook and Scott Brooks didn't realize that. They thought they were doing everything they could to win, even though it wasn't the right choice.

  • @ernestcardinal7859
    @ernestcardinal7859 7 років тому

    THANK YOU

  • @UnleashTheGoat
    @UnleashTheGoat 7 років тому +1

    I agree with what you are saying but they weren't winning by letting Westbrook do less, however, the fans would rather see their player chase an MVP award so they at least got something out of this season and it also keeps Westbrook happy and makes him favour stopping around in Oklahoma city

  • @need1ef1ber
    @need1ef1ber 7 років тому

    as an okc fan, i agree with most of what you said
    given this, i think the management didnt really have much of a choice but to do that that year.
    they had a team built around durant and westbrook and yes durant didnt resign with the thunder so this is what happened lol

  • @MeLikeStuffz
    @MeLikeStuffz 7 років тому +2

    The problem is though, that this is just the way Westbrook plays. Even with Durant next to him, he couldn't putting himself over the team. His style of play doesn't contribute to winning basketball. And if you disagree, might I ask you why it is that Westbrook was never able to win a championship or even make the finals a second time when he had elite offensive options including the second best player in the world next to him?

  • @kobeskornerlivestream26
    @kobeskornerlivestream26 7 років тому

    Been saying this for years. Cheers

  • @gullintanni
    @gullintanni 5 років тому

    It baffles me that Adams is not more involved in the OKC offense. Dude has the strength, touch and the level headedness to dominate inside. I wish they played more through him, but OKC works in mysterious ways.

  • @torresedwin1016
    @torresedwin1016 7 років тому

    Bro how is your channel not bigger?

  • @jag212003
    @jag212003 7 років тому +5

    History reapeats

  • @dr.murder2690
    @dr.murder2690 6 років тому +1

    Kobe and MJ had much worse teams than the team WestBrick had last season yet they still were more efficient than him and they had no other choice to do.. Especially the team that Kobe had in 2006 which in my opinion without Kobe's great performances that year wouldn't have even won more than 10 games .. I remember how painfully hard it was watching scrubs like Smush Parker and Kwameeeeeeh Brown waste position after position on offense and not showing anything on defense. Coming to last years OKC they had Oladipo who is now showing to everyone what type of a player he really is, They had Steven Adams and they had a very efficient scorer in Enes Kanter so you can't say that WestBrick didn't have that much help last year