It's a digital deluxe exclusive not playstation exclusive Edit: or you meant why it wasn't in Sonic Central and was exclusive to State of play in which case i'm a big idiot if you meant it like that
that reminds me of that crazy "Amalgam Universe", a strange miniseries that was a side-story to "Marvel VS DC". the two universes merged, resulting in a bunch of strange combination characters: "Dark Claw", Batman crossed with Wolverine. "Supersolder", Superman crossed with Captain America. "Lobo the Duck", Lobo crossed with Howard the Duck. "Dr. Strangefate", Dr Strange crossed with Dr. Fate AND Professor X. he also had a strange servant he called "Myx" i had NO idea who THAT was, until he said something about "my servitude in this dimension", THEN i realized he was actually Mxyzptlk!
Mephilis being here is very interesting to me and I hope it actually adresses how Sonic 06 stuff like Crisis City is in White Space. Yes there is the theory/headcanon that the Time Eater can bring back times rendered moot or events the characters have experienced regardless of if those events exist anymore but as far as the actual game was concerned, Crisis City is there for specifically out of universe reasons and not addressed by anyone. Also, even if he's just a boss fight, I hope Dan Green comes back and does some lines. I loved his performance as Mephilis. I'd even settle for a decent enough impression.
I mean Blaze says if you complete a mission and go to talk to her that she never imagined she would ever be back at Crisis City again, but that yeah how apparently her memory return of the place was never addressed and seemed to imply og Generations was going to have more story to it but then after Chemical Plant they just stopped with any story cutscenes of past places.
See, I think that white space is really just a place where dead timeline stuff goes All of the remembered zones went there because Time Eater erased them, but Crisis City (and other ‘06 stuff) was already there and Sonic just ran through it anyway to restore it which then restored it into continuity (or, at least, restored everyone’s memory of it). Same for Hidden Valley and Shadow
@@SandwitchZebraits extremely complicated, because if thats the case then solaris reappears every time to be snuffed out in some continuous loop. It was a bit simpler for me to digest this as time eaters ability to consume timelines including those before an “auto correction” (06) and then it landed in white space. Head cannon was that after sonic blew out the flame the 06 timeline was auto corrected then placed on a completely different temporal axis. This explains why time eater can even pull from this to begin with. Or perhaps it’s just better described as time eater reversing erased history. At some point 06 did exist. He went to there to get it.
@@lambousginiguccigod2007This is what I usually go with as an explanation. Same way I justify Stardust Speedway Bad Future despite Sonic ensuring a good future for Little Planet. Sonic did still race Metal in the Bad Future to save Amy, so the Time Eater pulled from there. I do hope this gets properly addressed in at least Shadow Generations since it seemed one of the many questions Sonic Team didn't really wanna bother discussing at the time.
@@castform7 yeah some clarification would work wonders on this plot point regarding time. Im guessing its multiversal theory atp. I honestly have no clue
"Set the timeline right" Calling it: by the end of Shadow's story, after defeating the entity that caused his situation, he's going to be given the choice of either saving Maria and Gerald by taking them from the past and bringing them to the present, thereby avoiding their demise while consequently causing unknown effects to the timeline, or accept his past (again lol) and set everything as it should be, including Maria and Gerald's death.
The new Black Doom form is what we were all hyped to see "The Mysterious Disk" Pokemon as, an eldritch "biblically accurate" horror from beyond the stars.
Guess it's the year of Shadow. Can't wait till the movie, and the DLC. Kinda glad we didn't get another movie trailer. It will let us see what they've been cooking and we can be surprised.
He's wondering why because Shadow generations takes place during the events of Sonic generations, therefore Sonic forces hasn't happened yet. But I myself believe it's because the Time eater has the ability to manipulate both past and future, considering he was able to manipulate classic Sonic's future I feel like it only makes sense
@jammincannabis8634 I mean Crisis City is from the distant future even if it's a part of Sonic's past (Bad Future Stardust Speedway being a similar situation) Sunset Heights and Chaos Island aren't THAT out of left field
Sonic Generations is outside of time. (Not outside the timeline, but the White Void itself is outside of time) so the question isn't "when is Sonic Generations?" But "When is Shadow from?" Since Time Travel is so funky to understand- it's like if you from 2024 and 2014 were in White Space now. But your Older Sibling in White Void is from 2034. That's kinda what's happening here.
I'm still convinced that secret playable character in Shadow part of the game is Emerl. Like, Dark Beginnings gonna set him up and he will appear in the game, it's just makes sense
I am really wondering what they'll do with Maria and Gerald when taking that last little tidbit they showed into. More specifically, how will Shadow react to them. He has put his past behind him but what happens when it stares him in the face. My mind is racing.
Knowing Sega, it’ll probably come down to a choice Shadow has to make. To either see them again, or focus on the threat at hand. I really hope Shadow gets to talk to Maria though
@@TheLightSaga Honestly that doesn't sound too bad. It could reinforce that idea that Shadow has only been moving forward in his life and that to him, the safety of the world is more important to him. Though, I would also like to see how the Shadow of today would talk to what I assume would be Maria and Gerald before the raid on the ARK.
It could also be a scene where she calls him back to his true meaning. Based off the dialogue in the trailer it sounds like Doom is able to manipulate him into destorying stuff, maybe Maria reminds him of his purpose?
@@vanerey30 I don't know, the dialogue also showcases that Shadow wants nothing more than Black Doom in a casket. I don't think anything Doom says will actually work to his desired effect.
@@castform7 I see your point, but the Doom powers could be affecting his mind; maybe he starts off not wanting to have anything with Doom, but as he unlocks more powers they keep hurting him. We see him gripping his head in pain and we saw him trapped in the Black Arms vines
The yellow emerald makes more sense, from a design standpoint. Shadow's animations for spin dash and tornado moves have always featured a golden yellow color.
22:39 The swirly orb thing in Gerald's diary was not anything with dooms eye, it is one of those switches from Sonic Adventure 2 that momentarily stops time from the level Cannon's Core
Maybe for the Robins. Espio is Dick. Charmy is Jason. Tim can be Rice Bingle. I know nothing about Stephanie so how bout... Lumina I guess. And Cream is Damian. And yes. That means Vanilla is Talia
Yo wait.... Sonic theorists I have a ponderince. So, y'know how, because of this new release, Sega is completely getting rid of the Original Generations entirely? What if, that means that they're rewriting when exactly Generations took place? Because, if you think about it, with Shadow having these newer game levels, could that also mean that they're hiding newer Modern Sonic levels too? More specifically, if they are having another secret character, could this something to do with the aftermath of Frontiers? Like the two different endings of frontiers could be some sort of time split that all the Hedgehogs have to fix? And if they're giving more levels to Modern Sonic(Speculation), then that must also mean they're adding levels to Classic Sonic as well, perhaps some new bosses, since he was only able to fight 2 bosses and one mini? And here's another question, where was Shadow during Frontiers anyway? Does this have something to do with that? SO MANY QUESTIONS! AGGHHHHH!
Sonic Generations is completely unchanged aside from graphical and control adjustments, don't know where you got the idea that they would somehow rewrite anything.
Is there even a possibility for timeline splits cause generations itself proved that time can’t be changed plus classic sonic was pulled from after sonic r and segasonic therefore not affecting past games plus o6 kind of proves that time itself is a slider and takes place at the same time because in o6 mephiles takes shadow and rouge to the future and the next chronological appearance from him is in silvers future and in Sonic’s story they meet up with shadow and rouge which take place at the same time plus they say that they have no time when reading the newspaper on Elise’s “death” even though their in the future and have time travel that’s because time operates on a slider and pat present and future take place at the same time so if Sonic went to the future for 1 min he will return 1 min from the present but time still can’t be changed I’m not sure there could be a time spilt tho because of classic
@@garyconstanza3120 simply because Shadow's getting levels that are, "From the future," from when the game takes place. I'm saying Sega retconned its original date, and put it somewhere else on the timeline. Because some of these levels are from later games(Frontiers/Forces), which is impossible, given "My latest defeat left wondering in space, until I found this creature! Capable of controlling time!" But his "latest defeat" would either be from the Apple game, or Frontiers, both of which do not have that kind of ending for Eggman.
@@mandalorianjedi232 if you have watched the Vid from Chaari, multiple things from the game would suggest that 06 isn't in that canon storyline. Watch it again
@@ANerdinAnyRegard I have all the way through my point being tho both o6 and generation prove that time cannot be changed and operates on a slider ie sonic tails and knuckles going to the future the same time as shadow and rouge with mephilis and that taking place at the same time as the beginning of silver story and classic sonic going to forces we can assume that mania occurs during or after Sonic lost world which both games then lead into forces for both modern and classic i wasent insisting that o6 was still canon or should still be I was just using the time travel mechanics and link that to generations
I know Charriii ended up writting it off but I actually think he was right that them having Mephiles is in part meant to canonize Sonic 06, or at least make it less of a question amongst fans.
Maybe its the Time eater acting on it's own? Maybe Eggman while in control of the time eater actually decided that he could use it to see his family one last time? Probably to even get Shadow off his back.
@chrimsonphantom I doubt the time eater was acting on its own, throughout gens that's never hinted Also eggman didn't like maria and gerald for dying so not to see them And shadow is busy with doom anyways and in gens kinda stayed out of it
@@Glitchy588Live So unless if Doom fuses with the time eater, using Gerald and Maria as distractions. The only way to know for sure is to wait for it to come out.
@chrimsonphantom again where are you getting that from, shadow gens and sonic gens are happening at the same time, if doom were involved with the time eater we'd have known since 2011
@@Glitchy588Live It's just speculations to the question, "Modern eggman and classic eggman are using the time eater. So why did they bring Maria and Gerald from the past?" This is a dlc from a remastered game that came out thirteen years ago. It's going to have it's own story that is being told parallel to the main game. Doom wasn't involved with the time eater back in 2011. But now Black doom, Mephalis, and Metal Overlord are now involved thanks to time eater. Which of course is being controlled by Eggman and Classic Eggman. Yet it's apparent that Doom is the main villain of this DLC story and clearly doing it's own thing. So even if my speculations are wrong the only way we can know is when the game comes out.
This is truly the Year of the Shadow for sure man. There is just so much Awesome stuff that this almost feels like a awesome Shadow based Dream, haha. I also went "MELDOGILELS" when Mephiles appeared, lol. Sonic x Shadow Generation is definitely gonna be hands down a fun and crazy time full of so much story and everything, Gerald's Journal commercial was definitely really cool and eerie! Loved that a lot. The Side mobile games and other stuff are neat too, but the DC with Sonic characters blew me away. That was awesome to see! Also, I didn't see it in your video, but the fact also plan to put in Keanu Reeves as Movie Shadow in game format for the Generations thing is slammin' too. The style is so charming in game form!
22:22 Probably because this is present day Shadow. The Time Eater just went to the future to pick up Shadow and brought him into White Space. But this is just me theorizing
I saw someone in the chat wonder if/how they might try to connect Black Doom to the End and I thought about it a lot and something hit me. The end takes the form of a giant dark moon-like celestial body. The Black Comet is like wise a (about city sized) dark celestial body. What if the Black Comet was like a part of The End? Then the Black Arms would have been created from/by a fragment of The End. This of course assumes that The Black Arms are from The Black Comet and they didn't just colonize or migrate to it.
12:46 To the person who wrote that, thank you. That was the funniest thing I've seen all day. 13:33 Well actually, I care about Sonic more than S.H.A.D.O.W. So you can imagine how I felt about this. In fact (probably an unpopular opinion but I'm still gonna say it), I don't care about Project S.H.A.D.O.W at all.
Dude, i think those floating thing in the journal is the time stoppers in the final level with everyone in last atory, and the doom angel thing might have a connection to that object. Also if we actually see gernald getting executed in the shorts i will scream.
Terminal Montage has an animation partnered with Sega for Sonic X Shadow Gens that might help you place where and why places from Forces and Frontiers are in the game.
I get that Sonic would be flash, but the fact that superman is Batman's polar opposite is the thing. Which the dynamic works better. To bad their isn't a speedster villain that Edgy but comes to good terms with the Flash.
Wait, I just noticed, doesn’t sunset heights have a Golden Gate Bridge? So we have one in radical highway and sunset heights, idk how I feel about that
If Charriii does "everything wrong with Sonic × Shadow Generations" (and he more than likely will.) We are going to have to question WHY menphis Tenesse is here and if 06 is cannon dispite the fact that sonic and friends wiped out that entire timeline removing Iblis and Mephiles Side note, if you read this Charriii5, hi, long time fan, hope you are having a good day! And keep up all your amazing works!
@@garyconstanza3120 kingdom vally is okay at least, cause that is a part of Soliana, and can be expained as "Shadow was still hired by G.U.N. to explore the ruins cause eggman was spotted scavenging out there" kinda thing, explaining the reason for him being aware of it, crisis city falls into that same deal as "Mephiles × Iblis dossn't exist so it should not either tho
My only hope is that for Sonic x Shadow Generations they bring the Sonic Rush level that was in 3DS Generations and actually put it onto the main game. Not only would this clear things up with putting Blaze in a stage from her home game instead of Crisis City but it would be a good way to represent the more modern 2D games. And some stages from post Colors would be dope if they’re giving Shadow Forces and Frontiers content. The biggest thing I’m hoping for is that Sonic doesn’t get fucked over in terms of abilities and that they give him SOMETHING new instead of giving everything to Shadow
The Sonic Community is overthinking this WAY too much. When was it ever stated that you can only go to something from your own past? The Time Eater can take apart the timeline with anything and anywhere. That is stated with min original Gens. Forces and Frontiers locations are fully capable of being included.
Thoughts on who second character is Emeral is a no brainer It's all a troll and it's the terios skin Super shadow power up thingy like how it is for sonic in lost world and forces? They would never bring in eclipse the darling, but perhaps they could make up an equivalent that's also a fresh new character (like comparing surge to scourge) Infinite hasn't been teased maybe bro gets that redemption we've been wanting (redemption as a competent character, not a moral redemption necessarily) That's all I have
Im a little confused why mephiles isnt the main villain of shadows story, hes arguably the biggest threat from the games. i like black doom and im glad hes back but doesnt feel like he should be the main threat
12:45 Me too, Charaiii That exact scene with sonic originally I wanted to play a level dodging multiple Death Egg Robots dodging through thier arms. But Scene happening now works with Shadow.
The reactions on 13:01 and 13:42 are EXACTLY how I reacted like AAAAAAAAHHHH CAN I JUST GET THE GAME ALREADY AND WATCH THE FULL SHORTS AUHGHGHHG genuinely with the amount of anime-esque shorts we're getting, when will they finally realize we would all kill to see a full on series in this style like 😭😭 Regardless i am SO hyped for Sonic X Shadow Gens (especially when I'll be going to the sonic symphony legit the WEEKEND before the game releases)
My additional Reoction to what the State of Play revealed: twitter.com/Charriii5/status/1838713088192712795?t=2y1r-n621o4l3GDXvY6IpQ&s=19
It's a digital deluxe exclusive not playstation exclusive
Edit: or you meant why it wasn't in Sonic Central and was exclusive to State of play in which case i'm a big idiot if you meant it like that
Charriii5 0:16 I don’t think you have see what going on about shadow in UA-cam shorts just tape in Shadow the Hedgehog fox hunting you find it!!
I think it was bold of Sega to confirm that Mario was actually related all along to eggman’s bloodline.
Mario?? Now I gotta watch this 😂
Pardon?
Huh???
Wowie Zowie!
Yeah that part was CRAZY.
People forgot that "REOCTING" is a tradition already
i'm gonn EOT some patotas
What I've learned so far:
Chariii is psychic.
@@anonymousgamer5771 yes 🗿
“I’m Batman, the ultimate life form.”
that reminds me of that crazy "Amalgam Universe", a strange miniseries that was a side-story to "Marvel VS DC".
the two universes merged, resulting in a bunch of strange combination characters:
"Dark Claw", Batman crossed with Wolverine.
"Supersolder", Superman crossed with Captain America.
"Lobo the Duck", Lobo crossed with Howard the Duck.
"Dr. Strangefate", Dr Strange crossed with Dr. Fate AND Professor X.
he also had a strange servant he called "Myx"
i had NO idea who THAT was, until he said something about "my servitude in this dimension", THEN i realized he was actually Mxyzptlk!
The fact that Maria would be making an appearance in Sonic X Shadow Generations…
Mephilis being here is very interesting to me and I hope it actually adresses how Sonic 06 stuff like Crisis City is in White Space. Yes there is the theory/headcanon that the Time Eater can bring back times rendered moot or events the characters have experienced regardless of if those events exist anymore but as far as the actual game was concerned, Crisis City is there for specifically out of universe reasons and not addressed by anyone. Also, even if he's just a boss fight, I hope Dan Green comes back and does some lines. I loved his performance as Mephilis. I'd even settle for a decent enough impression.
I mean Blaze says if you complete a mission and go to talk to her that she never imagined she would ever be back at Crisis City again, but that yeah how apparently her memory return of the place was never addressed and seemed to imply og Generations was going to have more story to it but then after Chemical Plant they just stopped with any story cutscenes of past places.
See, I think that white space is really just a place where dead timeline stuff goes
All of the remembered zones went there because Time Eater erased them, but Crisis City (and other ‘06 stuff) was already there and Sonic just ran through it anyway to restore it which then restored it into continuity (or, at least, restored everyone’s memory of it). Same for Hidden Valley and Shadow
@@SandwitchZebraits extremely complicated, because if thats the case then solaris reappears every time to be snuffed out in some continuous loop.
It was a bit simpler for me to digest this as time eaters ability to consume timelines including those before an “auto correction” (06) and then it landed in white space.
Head cannon was that after sonic blew out the flame the 06 timeline was auto corrected then placed on a completely different temporal axis. This explains why time eater can even pull from this to begin with.
Or perhaps it’s just better described as time eater reversing erased history. At some point 06 did exist. He went to there to get it.
@@lambousginiguccigod2007This is what I usually go with as an explanation. Same way I justify Stardust Speedway Bad Future despite Sonic ensuring a good future for Little Planet. Sonic did still race Metal in the Bad Future to save Amy, so the Time Eater pulled from there. I do hope this gets properly addressed in at least Shadow Generations since it seemed one of the many questions Sonic Team didn't really wanna bother discussing at the time.
@@castform7 yeah some clarification would work wonders on this plot point regarding time. Im guessing its multiversal theory atp. I honestly have no clue
mephiles first CONSOLE appearance since 2006
"Set the timeline right"
Calling it: by the end of Shadow's story, after defeating the entity that caused his situation, he's going to be given the choice of either saving Maria and Gerald by taking them from the past and bringing them to the present, thereby avoiding their demise while consequently causing unknown effects to the timeline, or accept his past (again lol) and set everything as it should be, including Maria and Gerald's death.
not if shenron has anything to do about it
i'm getting them balls one way or another
The new Black Doom form is what we were all hyped to see "The Mysterious Disk" Pokemon as, an eldritch "biblically accurate" horror from beyond the stars.
Terapagos is the stack of turtles the world sits on
@@arzfan29 Doesn't change the fact that its kind of underwhelming compaired to all of the Lovecraftian expectations for it.
Guess it's the year of Shadow. Can't wait till the movie, and the DLC. Kinda glad we didn't get another movie trailer. It will let us see what they've been cooking and we can be surprised.
22:22 Why is Shadow in Forces?
Remember: You played as Shadow in Forces
He's wondering why because Shadow generations takes place during the events of Sonic generations, therefore Sonic forces hasn't happened yet. But I myself believe it's because the Time eater has the ability to manipulate both past and future, considering he was able to manipulate classic Sonic's future I feel like it only makes sense
@jammincannabis8634 I mean Crisis City is from the distant future even if it's a part of Sonic's past (Bad Future Stardust Speedway being a similar situation)
Sunset Heights and Chaos Island aren't THAT out of left field
@@jammincannabis8634 time travel
Sonic Generations is outside of time. (Not outside the timeline, but the White Void itself is outside of time) so the question isn't "when is Sonic Generations?" But "When is Shadow from?"
Since Time Travel is so funky to understand- it's like if you from 2024 and 2014 were in White Space now. But your Older Sibling in White Void is from 2034. That's kinda what's happening here.
I like how bro predicted the entire sonic central
Showing Maria at the end of the generations trailer really caught me off guard
Hope they remake sonic adventure 1or2 or unleashed
Charriii is becoming too powerful. He's predicting everything. Soon he will know everything Sonic, both past and future. You have been warned.
I'm still convinced that secret playable character in Shadow part of the game is Emerl. Like, Dark Beginnings gonna set him up and he will appear in the game, it's just makes sense
I'm expecting a rival battle
I can’t wait for shadow generations!
Dude Sunset Heights sounds so much better with actual instruments
MEMPHIS TENNESSEE?!?!
Alpha gamer and part lizard
@@Rdrdrdrdrd-45done forget esteemed indie game developer
Will he still be kinning though?
@@JohantheFunnyguyProbably not cause Fortnite isn’t as popular as it was and it’s Memphis’ favorite game to talk about
I am really wondering what they'll do with Maria and Gerald when taking that last little tidbit they showed into. More specifically, how will Shadow react to them. He has put his past behind him but what happens when it stares him in the face. My mind is racing.
Knowing Sega, it’ll probably come down to a choice Shadow has to make. To either see them again, or focus on the threat at hand.
I really hope Shadow gets to talk to Maria though
@@TheLightSaga Honestly that doesn't sound too bad. It could reinforce that idea that Shadow has only been moving forward in his life and that to him, the safety of the world is more important to him. Though, I would also like to see how the Shadow of today would talk to what I assume would be Maria and Gerald before the raid on the ARK.
It could also be a scene where she calls him back to his true meaning. Based off the dialogue in the trailer it sounds like Doom is able to manipulate him into destorying stuff, maybe Maria reminds him of his purpose?
@@vanerey30 I don't know, the dialogue also showcases that Shadow wants nothing more than Black Doom in a casket. I don't think anything Doom says will actually work to his desired effect.
@@castform7 I see your point, but the Doom powers could be affecting his mind; maybe he starts off not wanting to have anything with Doom, but as he unlocks more powers they keep hurting him. We see him gripping his head in pain and we saw him trapped in the Black Arms vines
The yellow emerald makes more sense, from a design standpoint. Shadow's animations for spin dash and tornado moves have always featured a golden yellow color.
Finally, we get shown the actual base game
Well I always thought that 06 was always canon, cause for me, just because no one remembers (other than maybe Sonic), doesn’t mean it didn’t happened.
22:39 The swirly orb thing in Gerald's diary was not anything with dooms eye, it is one of those switches from Sonic Adventure 2 that momentarily stops time from the level Cannon's Core
Ohhh, that would make sense, too!
17:14 Sonic 4 is in the background!
Maybe for the Robins. Espio is Dick. Charmy is Jason. Tim can be Rice Bingle. I know nothing about Stephanie so how bout... Lumina I guess. And Cream is Damian.
And yes. That means Vanilla is Talia
Which would mean that Vanilla gets together with Shadow
gee dang you got the predictions absolutely correct
Sonic the Hedgehog fans are eating up outstandingly well for the next two years.
I’ve only ever played forces and I remember nothing from it. I might play shadow generations. It looks epic.
Yo wait....
Sonic theorists I have a ponderince.
So, y'know how, because of this new release, Sega is completely getting rid of the Original Generations entirely? What if, that means that they're rewriting when exactly Generations took place? Because, if you think about it, with Shadow having these newer game levels, could that also mean that they're hiding newer Modern Sonic levels too? More specifically, if they are having another secret character, could this something to do with the aftermath of Frontiers? Like the two different endings of frontiers could be some sort of time split that all the Hedgehogs have to fix? And if they're giving more levels to Modern Sonic(Speculation), then that must also mean they're adding levels to Classic Sonic as well, perhaps some new bosses, since he was only able to fight 2 bosses and one mini? And here's another question, where was Shadow during Frontiers anyway? Does this have something to do with that? SO MANY QUESTIONS! AGGHHHHH!
Sonic Generations is completely unchanged aside from graphical and control adjustments, don't know where you got the idea that they would somehow rewrite anything.
Is there even a possibility for timeline splits cause generations itself proved that time can’t be changed plus classic sonic was pulled from after sonic r and segasonic therefore not affecting past games plus o6 kind of proves that time itself is a slider and takes place at the same time because in o6 mephiles takes shadow and rouge to the future and the next chronological appearance from him is in silvers future and in Sonic’s story they meet up with shadow and rouge which take place at the same time plus they say that they have no time when reading the newspaper on Elise’s “death” even though their in the future and have time travel that’s because time operates on a slider and pat present and future take place at the same time so if Sonic went to the future for 1 min he will return 1 min from the present but time still can’t be changed I’m not sure there could be a time spilt tho because of classic
@@garyconstanza3120 simply because Shadow's getting levels that are, "From the future," from when the game takes place. I'm saying Sega retconned its original date, and put it somewhere else on the timeline. Because some of these levels are from later games(Frontiers/Forces), which is impossible, given "My latest defeat left wondering in space, until I found this creature! Capable of controlling time!" But his "latest defeat" would either be from the Apple game, or Frontiers, both of which do not have that kind of ending for Eggman.
@@mandalorianjedi232 if you have watched the Vid from Chaari, multiple things from the game would suggest that 06 isn't in that canon storyline. Watch it again
@@ANerdinAnyRegard I have all the way through my point being tho both o6 and generation prove that time cannot be changed and operates on a slider ie sonic tails and knuckles going to the future the same time as shadow and rouge with mephilis and that taking place at the same time as the beginning of silver story and classic sonic going to forces we can assume that mania occurs during or after Sonic lost world which both games then lead into forces for both modern and classic i wasent insisting that o6 was still canon or should still be I was just using the time travel mechanics and link that to generations
Honestly I think Red Hood fits Shadow more.
I know Charriii ended up writting it off but I actually think he was right that them having Mephiles is in part meant to canonize Sonic 06, or at least make it less of a question amongst fans.
Wait so we know that modern eggman and classic eggman are using the time eater. So why did they bring Maria and gerald from the past?
Maybe its the Time eater acting on it's own? Maybe Eggman while in control of the time eater actually decided that he could use it to see his family one last time? Probably to even get Shadow off his back.
@chrimsonphantom I doubt the time eater was acting on its own, throughout gens that's never hinted
Also eggman didn't like maria and gerald for dying so not to see them
And shadow is busy with doom anyways and in gens kinda stayed out of it
@@Glitchy588Live So unless if Doom fuses with the time eater, using Gerald and Maria as distractions. The only way to know for sure is to wait for it to come out.
@chrimsonphantom again where are you getting that from, shadow gens and sonic gens are happening at the same time, if doom were involved with the time eater we'd have known since 2011
@@Glitchy588Live It's just speculations to the question, "Modern eggman and classic eggman are using the time eater. So why did they bring Maria and Gerald from the past?"
This is a dlc from a remastered game that came out thirteen years ago. It's going to have it's own story that is being told parallel to the main game. Doom wasn't involved with the time eater back in 2011. But now Black doom, Mephalis, and Metal Overlord are now involved thanks to time eater. Which of course is being controlled by Eggman and Classic Eggman. Yet it's apparent that Doom is the main villain of this DLC story and clearly doing it's own thing.
So even if my speculations are wrong the only way we can know is when the game comes out.
13:04 they really gave shadow his batman moment lol
How did charii predict basically 90% of the sonic central
If there’s not an option to save Maria, this game automatically goes from a 10 to a 9.
Nah, the game better give me control of the gun soldier that pulls the trigger
For the DC collab, they should've had Rouge as Black Canary, Whisper as Green Arrow, and then Tangle as Plastic Man
sonic fans are eating good i'm happy for you guys
I think this version of Shadow is from post-Frontiers, but he's sent back to Generations to fight Sonic.
This is truly the Year of the Shadow for sure man. There is just so much Awesome stuff that this almost feels like a awesome Shadow based Dream, haha. I also went "MELDOGILELS" when Mephiles appeared, lol.
Sonic x Shadow Generation is definitely gonna be hands down a fun and crazy time full of so much story and everything, Gerald's Journal commercial was definitely really cool and eerie! Loved that a lot. The Side mobile games and other stuff are neat too, but the DC with Sonic characters blew me away. That was awesome to see!
Also, I didn't see it in your video, but the fact also plan to put in Keanu Reeves as Movie Shadow in game format for the Generations thing is slammin' too. The style is so charming in game form!
Seriously, people being excited to see Mephiles again makes me so happy!
22:22 Probably because this is present day Shadow. The Time Eater just went to the future to pick up Shadow and brought him into White Space. But this is just me theorizing
I saw someone in the chat wonder if/how they might try to connect Black Doom to the End and I thought about it a lot and something hit me.
The end takes the form of a giant dark moon-like celestial body.
The Black Comet is like wise a (about city sized) dark celestial body.
What if the Black Comet was like a part of The End?
Then the Black Arms would have been created from/by a fragment of The End.
This of course assumes that The Black Arms are from The Black Comet and they didn't just colonize or migrate to it.
12:46
To the person who wrote that, thank you. That was the funniest thing I've seen all day.
13:33
Well actually, I care about Sonic more than S.H.A.D.O.W. So you can imagine how I felt about this. In fact (probably an unpopular opinion but I'm still gonna say it), I don't care about Project S.H.A.D.O.W at all.
Dude, i think those floating thing in the journal is the time stoppers in the final level with everyone in last atory, and the doom angel thing might have a connection to that object. Also if we actually see gernald getting executed in the shorts i will scream.
Yes, yes you got it spot on prior to watching after your guesses 🤣
Terminal Montage has an animation partnered with Sega for Sonic X Shadow Gens that might help you place where and why places from Forces and Frontiers are in the game.
I was watching the live stream on tv and then I got the notification on my phone that's so hilarious 😂
I get that Sonic would be flash, but the fact that superman is Batman's polar opposite is the thing. Which the dynamic works better. To bad their isn't a speedster villain that Edgy but comes to good terms with the Flash.
I believe it’s movie shadow as the secret character due to some leaks, there’s a whole series of levels based on movie shit apparently
This game feels like the counter to Mario 3D world + bowser’s fury.
With a lego bio lizard it would be cool if they made a lego colony space ark and make it so that it can combine with bio lizard
Bro predicted the whole central at the start 💀
Kinda wild that his predictions for this was almost completely correct 😂
Bro predicted basically everything before it even started
They going all out with this year
Wait, I just noticed, doesn’t sunset heights have a Golden Gate Bridge? So we have one in radical highway and sunset heights, idk how I feel about that
Hey Charri they released a different Shadow gens trailer on the Playstation channel
If Charriii does "everything wrong with Sonic × Shadow Generations" (and he more than likely will.) We are going to have to question WHY menphis Tenesse is here and if 06 is cannon dispite the fact that sonic and friends wiped out that entire timeline removing Iblis and Mephiles
Side note, if you read this Charriii5, hi, long time fan, hope you are having a good day! And keep up all your amazing works!
Crisis City and Kingdom Valley are already in the game, yet Mephiles is what causes you to question 06's canonicity?
@@garyconstanza3120 kingdom vally is okay at least, cause that is a part of Soliana, and can be expained as "Shadow was still hired by G.U.N. to explore the ruins cause eggman was spotted scavenging out there" kinda thing, explaining the reason for him being aware of it, crisis city falls into that same deal as "Mephiles × Iblis dossn't exist so it should not either tho
Fun thing. Today as I rewatched this at work I met a guy who could basically be your twin brother 😅
They showed off the new dlc for shadow generations in state of play. Not gonna spoil it but definetly try and find a video of it its hype
My only hope is that for Sonic x Shadow Generations they bring the Sonic Rush level that was in 3DS Generations and actually put it onto the main game. Not only would this clear things up with putting Blaze in a stage from her home game instead of Crisis City but it would be a good way to represent the more modern 2D games. And some stages from post Colors would be dope if they’re giving Shadow Forces and Frontiers content. The biggest thing I’m hoping for is that Sonic doesn’t get fucked over in terms of abilities and that they give him SOMETHING new instead of giving everything to Shadow
I want Silver and Blaze to be added in Dream team next.
Hope he reacts to the prologue
The Sonic Community is overthinking this WAY too much. When was it ever stated that you can only go to something from your own past? The Time Eater can take apart the timeline with anything and anywhere. That is stated with min original Gens. Forces and Frontiers locations are fully capable of being included.
Nah like but what if shadow chao for robin
Thoughts on who second character is
Emeral is a no brainer
It's all a troll and it's the terios skin
Super shadow power up thingy like how it is for sonic in lost world and forces?
They would never bring in eclipse the darling, but perhaps they could make up an equivalent that's also a fresh new character (like comparing surge to scourge)
Infinite hasn't been teased maybe bro gets that redemption we've been wanting (redemption as a competent character, not a moral redemption necessarily)
That's all I have
Damn, I miss Chariii's stream 😢
Why is Shadow in car, can't he REOCTING already?
reocting
Im a little confused why mephiles isnt the main villain of shadows story, hes arguably the biggest threat from the games. i like black doom and im glad hes back but doesnt feel like he should be the main threat
Black Doom is a more personal enemy to Shadow and wasn't erased from the main timeline like Mephiles, that's why.
HE IS PSYCHIC
pls tell me we use a refined version of sonic frontiers combat in the bossfights
12:45 Me too, Charaiii That exact scene with sonic originally I wanted to play a level dodging multiple Death Egg Robots dodging through thier arms. But Scene happening now works with Shadow.
14:40 why they are at egypt???
14:45 Honestly I agree. Not a fan that it’s exclusively for PlayStation because i only have a switch.
MARIA
So you're back?
YESSIR WE EATING GOOD
Egg dealer.
Reocting?
you should play rayman origins.. not an eww just play it it's good
Reocting to????
Something to do with the fine bros copyrighting the word react or something I dunno.
Don't recall how it originated but he's been doing that for a long while now
WHAT THE FUCK DOES REOCT MEAN
welcome to tilted towers
Hey! I was the 900th like! Just thought I'd say that I guess.
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Rouge as Raven would actually go really hard.
Speaking of hard...
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You fucked up the name of the video
no it’s intentional
Look at his channel, you would know this is his thing with reaction vids
The reactions on 13:01 and 13:42 are EXACTLY how I reacted like AAAAAAAAHHHH CAN I JUST GET THE GAME ALREADY AND WATCH THE FULL SHORTS AUHGHGHHG
genuinely with the amount of anime-esque shorts we're getting, when will they finally realize we would all kill to see a full on series in this style like 😭😭
Regardless i am SO hyped for Sonic X Shadow Gens (especially when I'll be going to the sonic symphony legit the WEEKEND before the game releases)
20:33 It always has been, lol
I like the statement they made is “everyone has amnesia”
12:35
This is a sentiment I share. I also wanted this for Forces.
12:30 MEEE FILES
by the way, it’s not canonizing 06 because 06 was already cannon. It’s just that nobody remembers it.
Honestly I think Red Hood fits Shadow more.