M10 fits the pistol slot so it should be compared with UDP, M10 is amazing backup sidearm, never use it in the main slots, use it as a pistol you dont want to use normal pistols to stealth since they lack any sort of mid-long range capabilities, so get your hands on VSS or VAL for stealth
@@janovmi2 Some pistols can actually get good range. APSB fully upgraded can compete with some rifles and is like having a pistol slot Riemann, just locked into variable burst trigger. Eats ammo though, since it's so easy to accidentally fire more than one bullet. Of course, the Rhino is more like having a pocket sniper in the handgun slot, but it's not exactly a traditional sidearm.
Ya those are not cheap stealth options. I’ve been doing amazing with the Valik AK suppressed, with suppressed UDP compact for stealth clearing CQB areas. Then the cracker for any mutants that inevitably scare the shit out of me. I have not once ever had to think about buying ammo.
I've looked into it, it's the same as in the first stalker, Regular is your standard round, AP isn't really worth carrying and you only need HP if you don't want to carry a shotgun for mutants.
@@Full_Hop it may be easier to find, but that's negligible given how much ammo of every type we're given. I'm current swimming in ammo of each type and im in early-mid game
@@inteljumperxx I always keep my weapons on single-fire, so that might be what helps me conserve ammo. Vintar ammo is def more scarce, but still havent had too much of an issue finding it. are you using a different weapon for mutant fights? I keep a saiga in my other slot for bigger mutants/close quarters, and use my pistol for rats/dogs/backup rather than reloading
I'd say being able to carry only 3 weapons is less of a limiter than the modification and maintenance costs. If anything I'd say keeping an off-set using alternate ammo can be beneficial if you run low on specific ammo types.
Now hold on... The APSB is MASSIVELY underrated here. It's objectively better than anything else you can find for a good long while, cheaper to run than the Rhino. That has everything to do with how Penetration works. Penetration is the stat that counters physical resistance and lets you punch through thin cover. In the midgame onward, enemies start wearing helmets, so the basic rounds from low pen guns won't kill in one tap. That's what the APSB's 3 pen is for - it doesn't matter if you lose a bit of damage, a lower damage headshot that pierces the helmet will kill faster than a higher damage one that doesn't. This saves on the need to use AP ammo. Also, the APSB gets vastly higher stats than either of the base pistols when fully upgraded (or even partly upgraded before blueprints) while still being able to fit a silencer, and can be upgraded with a sight rail for the Russian collimator sight, making it better at short to mid-range headshots. On top of that, it has twice the mag of a PTM and a burst trigger that can still be tap fired for single shots, meaning you can magdump into a charging Bloodsucker if needed. Oh right, and penetration is needed for mutants because in vanilla at least, they all pack a ton of physical resist. That's why they feel so tanky. Flat bullets are terrible against them, despite what you might expect from creatures made entirely of flesh - AP bullets are the way to make them more manageable.
I rate this, absolute mutant destroyer with AP on the APSB, plus cheap as hell, greatest backup when your main weapon starts jamming up on you, the Dnipro, APSB and m107 trio is underated also, as long as you got the artifacts to lug shit around, you'll be a death machine
@@deanlambert6995 such a valid combo. The m701 sniper is so satisfying. But I’ve also been running a kharod with a 4x acog sight, silencer, laser sight, and underbarrel grenade launcher or underbarrel shotgun. The kharod is an absolute unit of a weapon. Running that and a saiga12 shotgun is sick. Plus the APSB sidearm like you said is so reliable in a pinch
@@joshb9281 kharod is definitely based, I only say Dnipro for high pen as you can single fire most enemies, saving tonnes of ammo plus it's way more common to find AP 5.45 AND.. there is a unique Dnipro that does 1.5 DMG compared to the standard 1.2 which is already nuts as it's pushing 3 pen
In defense of M10 Gordon: Admittedly, this is not a gun that you want to be using regularly. However, when fully kitted out and with an extended mag, it can deal a lot of damage in a very short period of time. When the situation is truly desperate, it can be very helpful to be able to quickly dump 40 ammo-piercing rounds into someone's head. I've used it in encounters where the NPCs attack you straight from the dialogue, and the draw time matters. Or when my primary ran out of ammo, the secondary jammed, and I had a controller right in my face. It really saved me in these niche situations.
You get a modded cracker shotgun that comes with a 10 shell clip in the early game that nice you retrieve a stash, pretty sure it’s a main quest as well
I've found a version of the M860 that has modification giving it a magazine. I have to admit though, it depends on how you play or fight, but even though a mag is good, being able to quickly load one or two shells in an emergency is still very good- as long as you are playing smartly. In some (not all but some) being able to load a shell faster than pushing a mag into the 860 can be life saving, but that is just my experience.
In IRL gun parlance, "shell by shell"=a tube magazine, thus the correct parlance is "tube fed" while the Saiga-12 sports a detachable magazine (not really another term for that). Also "single shot" in this game is a misnomer, as single shot weapons must be breached (opened) and loaded after every single shot. The correct terms here are "semi automatic" (which means self-loading) and thus means one shot per trigger pull vs. "automatic" meaning multiple shots until (potentially) the magazine is emptied with one continuous trigger pull. "??? round burst" is a fixed number of shots (??? usually=3) per trigger pull. For the Rhino (and any revolver) cocking the trigger prior to every shot is referred to as "single action", while pulling the trigger directly and causing the cylinder to rotate and the shot to fire is "double action". Some revolvers (like old-style western revolvers) are single action. Most double action revolvers may be fired single action (shorter, crisper trigger pull) or double action (longer, heavier trigger pull).
Viper 5 is also an early game .45 option, very cheap easily accessible re-chamber upgrade. Not that it's a great weapon. Nor than .45 is readily available early. Just that the UDP isn't literally the only thing spewing ACP early on.
If you're going to rechamber an SMG you may as well wait for the Integral-A, which is so much better than the Viper it's not even funny. Even if it isn't the Riemann from the DLC caches, which comes with a built-in suppressor like the DLC Fora and a monstrous range increase, the basic Integral and its base game unique variant will be available around the time you get more .45 anyway.
@tinnylaa6741 They definitely cranked the penetration and range a bit too high for a DLC exclusive... Takes a while to outclass it unless you prefer raw firepower. Eventually I swapped it for Dnipro/Kharod, the top tier ARs. Dnipro is incredibly easy to get (free one above the fire whirl anomaly in the cooling towers area, climb the scaffold outside the tower and slide back down the side onto the air cushion anomaly), and pretty sure I just found a Kharod on the way to Yaniv where both guns can be modded properly. Sucks they don't have uniques though. Also, if you're crazy enough to go that far north anyway... There's a diamond exoskeleton on top of the spark base/science bunker south of Yaniv (getting up there sucks though, have to mess with the physics and push boxes or something). Northeast, all the way next to the entrance to Prypiat, there's a pseudogiant guarding a bunch more science bunkers. Inside one is the Texan, the unique version of the RAM shotgun. Best shotty in the game by a huge margin, 14 mag and loads two at a time, with the highest stats and bonus accuracy for the unique variant.
@@FelisImpurrator Can also get the sprinting blueprint for that exoskeleton. Yeah i use the dnipro now currently with a suppressor on it. The ammo just seems easier to come by now later on. Once the devs fix A life, quest bugs etc, this will be a masterpiece.
Bucket S-2 has same damage as AK74 but twice more pen, penetration is somehow more important than the damage the weapon do, for mutants it seems even the sawed off works well.
I love the viper! Not sure why but with laser and holo sight it’s my go-to indoor / medium range weapon. It just feels OP. I do take a 4th gun out with me however for mutants (shotgun).
Something to add about the shell loading shotguns,I'm pretty sure you can alternate which shells your loading in. I was doing it with the ram by feeding mostly normal shells with ap incase the thing i was shooting is lively.
For the m860, I'm only 16h in and a little bit ago i found a mag fed 10rd m860 in "Garbage" zone. Very handy, and upgradeable by early techs. Much recommend.
I’m so glad I found your Content because I was wondering what weapons were better than others now I don’t have to decide I can just watch your video and get the best of the best of each ammo type. You are amazing and is doing God’s work. You just got yourself a new subscriber.
On 9×19 front shars mate is honestly amazing, spend some k and it tears through guys even more if ur getting head shots, mine currently dose more dmg the 74U and S respectively
you can actually get a spas 14 fully repaired around the time you are headed into wild islands if you take a detour up into cement factory, in the concrete forest locked room, there is also a unique fora there through a short side quest that you can cheese with a few grenades and a fully repaired integra-a in the reloading point right next to it in a stash, they are all very close to each other. and i mean the m860 you get a version with a mag in the garbage questline (i sided with stalkers idk if you get it if you are with the ward) so you can actually find these very early on.
yeah, found SPSA before the M380 and using it. It's funny this video mentions a lot of guns I've yet to see, yet I have plenty of those mentioned "later in the game" since second (went with colonel path) or third (northern gate) zone. Found VS and SPSA from random guys. Found ERM in some stash. Never heard of GP37, Saiga,
You're not really covering that some guns are in 2 categories because of calibre chages in their upgrade tree like the Fora being able to be chambered in 5.56 after an upgrade or the viper being able to be chambered in .45
It's so funny, I am starting a ng and using new guns but on my first play through I used an upgraded standard viper all through lesser zone and garbage to really nice effect. It's a laser beam upgraded and if you're a headshot monkey it puts in work on single shot.
Been using a VS Vintar and the Sahrs Mate smg or whatever it’s called. Been giving a blast with the game. And even more so after the new patch! Might have to give the Buket a go around and swap skifs pistol with the UDP or whatever it’s called.
If you can even get the optic attached. Xbox version seems to have a glitch where lots of us don’t have the option to attach it. In my case, I can’t buy the slide from the upgrade list. Not even after upgrading every part of the Viper. I’ve tried it all and others are chalking it up to a glitch.
@anthonynegron5145 It's not a glitch. You have to make sure the attachment is compatible with the weapon and also but the upgrade from a technician so that the weapon will have a rail to mount the optic on. If you don't have a rail than you obviously can't attach the optic.
There is an error, with the Viper 5, you can convert it to a different caliber by the technician, and it is permanent because the barrel is gonna be changed, in the description it says changes caliber to 5.45 and i thought hell yeah a MP5 in 5.45 mm but in reality it's converted to .45 ACP, and 5,45 by 39 mm and .45 ACP (11,43 x 23mm) is a huge difference ! One is a Intermidate Cartridge for Assault Rifles the other a subsonic Pistol Cartridge
I find Skifs Pistol to be overall the best Sidearm Weapon you can get. It has very decent stats and weighs at 0.05kg basically nothing compared to other Weapons. Other then that the combination of a Saiga and a Dnipro seems to be the best. The Saiga is already far superior to other shotguns in its standard form while the Dnipro can be enhanced to be far superior to other assault rifles. Also the Dnipro uses one of the most commonly found amunitions which is whhy you most likely wont run out on ammo. Also you can use AKM weapon upgrades on the Dnipro which are found early on.
Yeah I ended up using the dnipro and the saiga combo, especially the dnipro's attachments and like you said using 5.45 it solid, no matter the playthrough, I'll be heading straight to buy or pick up these weapons in the world before doing anything
One of my favorite weapons is the clusterfuk rifle being an AR416 modified into a dmr, still use the 5.56 ammo and got decent ammo and penetration, but good lord using the scope is unnecessarily difficult due to it getting covered by gas every shot
I used it until I realised it would wear so quickly. It's like 1% per shot. It's just sitting in my stash to look at occasionally since ive moved on to the vintar which does basically the same thing without the visibility issues, a bit more drop that's almost completely managed just by getting the 15% flatness upgrade, and in my opinion, a cool aesthetic.
I can't wait for part 2, I had a bug where the game didn't recognise any blueprints I picked up, so I used a mod to spawn them in (which worked) and I figured I may as well spawn in the named variants of all the guns so I am very curious for your next videos.
Im pretty sure you can get the normal version of the Lynx sniper at the northern checkpoint in the lesser zone, I went into a booby trapped building and some guy on a catwalk started shouting at me. He had a broken one on him
I haven't seen a Saiga yet, but I have seen the Spas 12, and I also have seen the M700 sniper rifle, before I got the Lynx (but I had already gotten a couple of SVDs before that). I have played like 40 hours and I still haven't seen the Fore 228 yet.
man these types of games aren’t for me BUTi love the chernobyl type games that have come out in the past. so I HAD to get this game and let me say i’m absolutely obsessed w everything about it. especially the graphics. man if you have a good pic and a good monitor then this game looks KILLER
Pretty much all except shottys, the machine gun, the revolver and a named udp with built in compensator that won't accept silencers, I have seen suppressors for snipers just haven't actually found it in my game
10:30 - i would love to use UDP instead of skifs starter pistol ... BUT ! ... for that i would have to be able to get rid of skifs pistol ... aallll praise quest items ! 😩😩
As someone playing on console, not having aim assist on snipers like vss or lynx locks me out of using them which is a bummer. Also want to mention your point on shotguns, using saiga early on will drain your coupons in terms of repair. The pump action with 10rnd mag is more than you need and is found early through main quests, but if you insist on semi shotgun, theres a couple of places where you can find a 100% SPAS
I've been rocking the drowned rifle u get from the Slag heap as it come with a grenade launcher and I found a suppressor and scope for it not too long after getting it, replacing my VSS. Another comment made u good point about the mac10 being able to be put into the sidearm slot. Might just utilize scoped and silenced AK74S as my stealth rifle for higher capacity, Spas-12 I just found cause i never found a Saiga yet somehow, and now a mac10 to use against bloodsuckers after expending all my slugs lmao
I haven't played the game yet, but advising against caliber sharing sounds really odd to me. In previous games, I always went for caliber sharing when possible. In SoC's Garbage you could get the Viper 9x18, which used the most abundant early game pistol ammo. Later, you could get the 9x39 Big Ben, which used the same ammo as the Tunder, VLA/Avalanche and Vintar, making it possible to use just one ammo (although 9x39 don't become sufficiently common until very late game).
The Viper is great early-mid game. Ammo is plentiful. It'll kill anything as long as you're hitting headshots. The range and accuracy are fine and you can boost penetration. The weight is a bit less than anything comparable at the time. You can mod it to fire .45. You can find a 40 round mag. It'll take a holo sight. Set it to single fire for headshots on humans and auto for mutants other than dogs and rats and you'll go far with it. I've gone through everything with it so far and that includes wandering through much of the northern sections as soon as it was open. I have two of them both fully modded, but the unique one modded to .45. They're both still useful.
The unique variant, shahs rifle or whatever is great and I used it until I got the vector some 30 hours later. Its actually quite effective when upgraded all the way.
12 inch shotguns? Wow...must be battleship caliber. What you do mean, I believe, is 12.7mm aka .50 cal which the 12 gauge is more or less the same thing.
Since Spray n pray is clearly no option in the game, your accuracy is significant. Better go for an accurate gun, probably less damage,but keep in mind that switch ammo type, Single fire and headshots if against humans is important. Up against mutants stick with shotguns imoo😂way better choice
It works if you get the drop on ennemies and are nearly point blank. Perfect if you're picking up guns from fallen enemies as you go and have a stack of ammo to burn through. Get a laser sight or just leave the crosshair on and you'll be shredding early enemies easily.
im using a spas shotgun and ive only just started the noon quests after garbage .... i dont know where i found mine but ive had it for a while ... i may have found it in cordon possibly when i went there for a sight seeing tour before i went though the northern check point after completing the lesser zone quests its an always carry for me as i tend to run with an extra gun in my inventory
I found the VS about 10 hours in. Almost immediately on an enemy after going through the north gate for the first time. I have yet to have an enemy drop a usable SVD 20 hours in. I had to buy one from a trader.
Yeah, found SVD pretty early in the first zone. I think it's in the factory near the north gate. There was a sniper in the a heavily trapped building. Didn't look like an RNG.
I liked u better on my eldin ring journey u was such a great content creator I believe u r still but these videos don't go to my heart like ur eldin ring videos hope u get more and more ppl
Real question is: can you increase stats above what the game shows? Like if you have 5 recoil why does the game even include more recoil upgrades? Do you get more recoil or no.
upgrades improve weapon stats beyond base values. some upgrades increase range or accuracy on the stat screen but they do different things, recoil compensation makes the gun handle better by staying on target after shooting (really good for full auto in short range vs mutants) but doesn't actually increase range or accuracy over longer distance. meanwhile bullet drop off actually increases the range you can reliable shoot a target for full dmg. the game lets you customize your weapons for specific tasks, a sniper like weapon doesn't really need recoil since you can generally drop an enemy in 1 headshot from long range before they can fight back, same weapon is rather bad in close quarters when it might be difficult to get a headshot and you don't want to waste rare sniper ammo on body shots, hence why you need something else with better recoil management to fill enemies with bullets (or you can make a hybrid gun to carry fewer weapons). raw dmg isn't the main factor to look at but also penetration since enemies have armor levels (bloodsuckers have 3 which is why they are so tanky in the beginning of the game when you have weapons with just 1 penetration). you need to move on to better penetration weapons even if they do less dmg than starting weapons because it saves ammo in the long run
Dnipro is the best ive used so far, when i do a hardcore playthrough im gonna beeline it for a high durability dnipro and head to yaniv for the suppressor or buy bit all at yaniv. Then back to wherever im continuing the story
I have over 1000 rounds of every automatic weapon caliber, plus hundreds of rounds of every other caliber. Ammo is not scarce. If it is, you're doing something wrong. I'm pretty sure I bought 5.45 once early game. Aside from that, I've always had plenty of ammo. This game feels like it has far more resources than other stalker games.
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i’m quite surprised there’s no AKM in 762/39
M10 fits the pistol slot so it should be compared with UDP, M10 is amazing backup sidearm, never use it in the main slots, use it as a pistol
you dont want to use normal pistols to stealth since they lack any sort of mid-long range capabilities, so get your hands on VSS or VAL for stealth
Latter 2 ammo is hard to come by
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@@janovmi2 Some pistols can actually get good range. APSB fully upgraded can compete with some rifles and is like having a pistol slot Riemann, just locked into variable burst trigger. Eats ammo though, since it's so easy to accidentally fire more than one bullet. Of course, the Rhino is more like having a pocket sniper in the handgun slot, but it's not exactly a traditional sidearm.
Ya those are not cheap stealth options. I’ve been doing amazing with the Valik AK suppressed, with suppressed UDP compact for stealth clearing CQB areas. Then the cracker for any mutants that inevitably scare the shit out of me. I have not once ever had to think about buying ammo.
@@FelisImpurratorapsb can be single shot, you just have to be really light on the trigger.
I’d really love to see someone do more in depth testing on each ammo type. Regular vs AP vs HP.
I've looked into it, it's the same as in the first stalker, Regular is your standard round, AP isn't really worth carrying and you only need HP if you don't want to carry a shotgun for mutants.
Game is weirdly balanced. Guns in 9x18 are stronger than .45.😅
Even if .45 was stronger, 9x18 is much easier to find. I'd still use my PTM
@@Full_Hop it may be easier to find, but that's negligible given how much ammo of every type we're given. I'm current swimming in ammo of each type and im in early-mid game
@@richardsmall5265I cannot find a steady supply of vs vintar ammo. Still only have like 90 rounds. I would love to be able to use the gun lol
Idk man I been using my compact UPD and I'm not having any trouble actually doing better with it than my 9mm
@@inteljumperxx I always keep my weapons on single-fire, so that might be what helps me conserve ammo. Vintar ammo is def more scarce, but still havent had too much of an issue finding it. are you using a different weapon for mutant fights? I keep a saiga in my other slot for bigger mutants/close quarters, and use my pistol for rats/dogs/backup rather than reloading
I'd say being able to carry only 3 weapons is less of a limiter than the modification and maintenance costs. If anything I'd say keeping an off-set using alternate ammo can be beneficial if you run low on specific ammo types.
Now hold on... The APSB is MASSIVELY underrated here. It's objectively better than anything else you can find for a good long while, cheaper to run than the Rhino. That has everything to do with how Penetration works.
Penetration is the stat that counters physical resistance and lets you punch through thin cover. In the midgame onward, enemies start wearing helmets, so the basic rounds from low pen guns won't kill in one tap. That's what the APSB's 3 pen is for - it doesn't matter if you lose a bit of damage, a lower damage headshot that pierces the helmet will kill faster than a higher damage one that doesn't. This saves on the need to use AP ammo.
Also, the APSB gets vastly higher stats than either of the base pistols when fully upgraded (or even partly upgraded before blueprints) while still being able to fit a silencer, and can be upgraded with a sight rail for the Russian collimator sight, making it better at short to mid-range headshots. On top of that, it has twice the mag of a PTM and a burst trigger that can still be tap fired for single shots, meaning you can magdump into a charging Bloodsucker if needed.
Oh right, and penetration is needed for mutants because in vanilla at least, they all pack a ton of physical resist. That's why they feel so tanky. Flat bullets are terrible against them, despite what you might expect from creatures made entirely of flesh - AP bullets are the way to make them more manageable.
I just switched to the APSB before watching this. Any idea where to find or buy the extended mag for it? Thanks!
@joshb9281 Damn. No clue. The interactive map might have it, if not now then eventually.
I rate this, absolute mutant destroyer with AP on the APSB, plus cheap as hell, greatest backup when your main weapon starts jamming up on you, the Dnipro, APSB and m107 trio is underated also, as long as you got the artifacts to lug shit around, you'll be a death machine
@@deanlambert6995 such a valid combo. The m701 sniper is so satisfying. But I’ve also been running a kharod with a 4x acog sight, silencer, laser sight, and underbarrel grenade launcher or underbarrel shotgun. The kharod is an absolute unit of a weapon. Running that and a saiga12 shotgun is sick. Plus the APSB sidearm like you said is so reliable in a pinch
@@joshb9281 kharod is definitely based, I only say Dnipro for high pen as you can single fire most enemies, saving tonnes of ammo plus it's way more common to find AP 5.45 AND.. there is a unique Dnipro that does 1.5 DMG compared to the standard 1.2 which is already nuts as it's pushing 3 pen
You can find an 860 variant that has mag attachment, 10 rnd, that gets dropped by enemies, look at it on the ground and you will see the mag on it.
It's unique enemy drop
there is also a mod blueprint
Yeah same thought here
In defense of M10 Gordon:
Admittedly, this is not a gun that you want to be using regularly. However, when fully kitted out and with an extended mag, it can deal a lot of damage in a very short period of time.
When the situation is truly desperate, it can be very helpful to be able to quickly dump 40 ammo-piercing rounds into someone's head.
I've used it in encounters where the NPCs attack you straight from the dialogue, and the draw time matters. Or when my primary ran out of ammo, the secondary jammed, and I had a controller right in my face. It really saved me in these niche situations.
I just like how the 74u looks so I'm using it until endgame. Rule of cool
chad
You gonna change your opinion real quick when you see how armored monolithians eat your low AP bullets
You get a modded cracker shotgun that comes with a 10 shell clip in the early game that nice you retrieve a stash, pretty sure it’s a main quest as well
I found a VS Vintar within 15 min of being in Garbage some rando in a bandit group was carrying it.
Me too
I've found a version of the M860 that has modification giving it a magazine. I have to admit though, it depends on how you play or fight, but even though a mag is good, being able to quickly load one or two shells in an emergency is still very good- as long as you are playing smartly. In some (not all but some) being able to load a shell faster than pushing a mag into the 860 can be life saving, but that is just my experience.
Changing weapons is faster than reloading.
You can find the Spas12 in Cordon at the Car Park so it should be in the running for early game weapons
In IRL gun parlance, "shell by shell"=a tube magazine, thus the correct parlance is "tube fed" while the Saiga-12 sports a detachable magazine (not really another term for that). Also "single shot" in this game is a misnomer, as single shot weapons must be breached (opened) and loaded after every single shot. The correct terms here are "semi automatic" (which means self-loading) and thus means one shot per trigger pull vs. "automatic" meaning multiple shots until (potentially) the magazine is emptied with one continuous trigger pull. "??? round burst" is a fixed number of shots (??? usually=3) per trigger pull. For the Rhino (and any revolver) cocking the trigger prior to every shot is referred to as "single action", while pulling the trigger directly and causing the cylinder to rotate and the shot to fire is "double action". Some revolvers (like old-style western revolvers) are single action. Most double action revolvers may be fired single action (shorter, crisper trigger pull) or double action (longer, heavier trigger pull).
Excellent video. Good structure. Well done!🎉
the M860 has a MAG upgrade you can get making it just as good if not better than the saiga D12. less recoil to worry about = more on target hits.
There is an upgrade you can apply to give the M860 a box magazine.
I like my Gordion. It can be kept in your pistol slot.
Viper 5 is also an early game .45 option, very cheap easily accessible re-chamber upgrade. Not that it's a great weapon. Nor than .45 is readily available early. Just that the UDP isn't literally the only thing spewing ACP early on.
If you're going to rechamber an SMG you may as well wait for the Integral-A, which is so much better than the Viper it's not even funny. Even if it isn't the Riemann from the DLC caches, which comes with a built-in suppressor like the DLC Fora and a monstrous range increase, the basic Integral and its base game unique variant will be available around the time you get more .45 anyway.
Facts, i got the rieman and the thing just shreds. Op range for a smg too.
@tinnylaa6741 They definitely cranked the penetration and range a bit too high for a DLC exclusive... Takes a while to outclass it unless you prefer raw firepower. Eventually I swapped it for Dnipro/Kharod, the top tier ARs. Dnipro is incredibly easy to get (free one above the fire whirl anomaly in the cooling towers area, climb the scaffold outside the tower and slide back down the side onto the air cushion anomaly), and pretty sure I just found a Kharod on the way to Yaniv where both guns can be modded properly. Sucks they don't have uniques though.
Also, if you're crazy enough to go that far north anyway... There's a diamond exoskeleton on top of the spark base/science bunker south of Yaniv (getting up there sucks though, have to mess with the physics and push boxes or something). Northeast, all the way next to the entrance to Prypiat, there's a pseudogiant guarding a bunch more science bunkers. Inside one is the Texan, the unique version of the RAM shotgun. Best shotty in the game by a huge margin, 14 mag and loads two at a time, with the highest stats and bonus accuracy for the unique variant.
@@FelisImpurrator Can also get the sprinting blueprint for that exoskeleton. Yeah i use the dnipro now currently with a suppressor on it. The ammo just seems easier to come by now later on. Once the devs fix A life, quest bugs etc, this will be a masterpiece.
@@FelisImpurrator And i didn't know about the ram, good to know 😆 currently using the sledgehammer you get from completing the arena.
Bucket S-2 has same damage as AK74 but twice more pen, penetration is somehow more important than the damage the weapon do, for mutants it seems even the sawed off works well.
Saiga is semi auto. Also you can find mag fed 860. I know we are talking more base weapons but you can also upgrade the viper to 45 acp
I love the viper! Not sure why but with laser and holo sight it’s my go-to indoor / medium range weapon. It just feels OP. I do take a 4th gun out with me however for mutants (shotgun).
Right? My main close quarters weapon is the Viper in burst mode with .45 caliber mod. Drops targets pretty quick
Something to add about the shell loading shotguns,I'm pretty sure you can alternate which shells your loading in. I was doing it with the ram by feeding mostly normal shells with ap incase the thing i was shooting is lively.
For the m860, I'm only 16h in and a little bit ago i found a mag fed 10rd m860 in "Garbage" zone.
Very handy, and upgradeable by early techs. Much recommend.
I’m so glad I found your Content because I was wondering what weapons were better than others now I don’t have to decide I can just watch your video and get the best of the best of each ammo type. You are amazing and is doing God’s work. You just got yourself a new subscriber.
On 9×19 front shars mate is honestly amazing, spend some k and it tears through guys even more if ur getting head shots, mine currently dose more dmg the 74U and S respectively
I use the gp37 and modded it with a mid to short range scope. Very solid weapon.
Ak-74u also has the ability to upgrade durability which gives it a huge advantage over the 74s.
Thanks for the guide, I was looking an analysis like this to invest well my time into a gun that would last (y)!
Upgraded and with a reddot I like the Viper-5 early on, as the Ammo is abundant.
you can actually get a spas 14 fully repaired around the time you are headed into wild islands if you take a detour up into cement factory, in the concrete forest locked room, there is also a unique fora there through a short side quest that you can cheese with a few grenades and a fully repaired integra-a in the reloading point right next to it in a stash, they are all very close to each other. and i mean the m860 you get a version with a mag in the garbage questline (i sided with stalkers idk if you get it if you are with the ward) so you can actually find these very early on.
You get the magazine fed one if you team up with ward
@@confusedcapitalist2242i didnt team up with ward and i have a mag fed one
@@Reaverporg i know, i meant you do get it. Sorry
yeah, found SPSA before the M380 and using it. It's funny this video mentions a lot of guns I've yet to see, yet I have plenty of those mentioned "later in the game" since second (went with colonel path) or third (northern gate) zone.
Found VS and SPSA from random guys. Found ERM in some stash.
Never heard of GP37, Saiga,
I found a EBR really early in garbage. Should I dump most of my coupons on it for a long term gun?
You're not really covering that some guns are in 2 categories because of calibre chages in their upgrade tree like the Fora being able to be chambered in 5.56 after an upgrade or the viper being able to be chambered in .45
My mid to late game setup is revolver, m14 rifle (forget the name in game) and a spas shot gun
The M860 has blue prints to make it magazine loaded, which makes it a perfect shotgun
Anyone else using the 9mm UDP? Feels like a Glock 19 I love it 🤣
It looks quit nice when fully kitted out with the supressor and laser sight.
Buket all the way, ammo is cheap and light, melts bloodsuckers and now that i acquired 30 round mag it is soo good and repairs decent price
It's so funny, I am starting a ng and using new guns but on my first play through I used an upgraded standard viper all through lesser zone and garbage to really nice effect. It's a laser beam upgraded and if you're a headshot monkey it puts in work on single shot.
Been using a VS Vintar and the Sahrs Mate smg or whatever it’s called. Been giving a blast with the game. And even more so after the new patch! Might have to give the Buket a go around and swap skifs pistol with the UDP or whatever it’s called.
The viper-5 chambered in .45 puts in some work early game
Viper 5 works fine once you get an optic for it.
I agree, also if you change the caliber to .45, it becomes much better
I prefer the irons the outer ring on the holo sight reticle obscures targets too much for my taste should have been a larger ring.
If you can even get the optic attached. Xbox version seems to have a glitch where lots of us don’t have the option to attach it. In my case, I can’t buy the slide from the upgrade list. Not even after upgrading every part of the Viper. I’ve tried it all and others are chalking it up to a glitch.
@@anthonynegron5145press up on your D pad to put attachments on your weapons
@anthonynegron5145 It's not a glitch. You have to make sure the attachment is compatible with the weapon and also but the upgrade from a technician so that the weapon will have a rail to mount the optic on. If you don't have a rail than you obviously can't attach the optic.
There is an error, with the Viper 5, you can convert it to a different caliber by the technician, and it is permanent because the barrel is gonna be changed, in the description it says changes caliber to 5.45 and i thought hell yeah a MP5 in 5.45 mm but in reality it's converted to .45 ACP, and 5,45 by 39 mm and .45 ACP (11,43 x 23mm) is a huge difference ! One is a Intermidate Cartridge for Assault Rifles the other a subsonic Pistol Cartridge
I find Skifs Pistol to be overall the best Sidearm Weapon you can get. It has very decent stats and weighs at 0.05kg basically nothing compared to other Weapons.
Other then that the combination of a Saiga and a Dnipro seems to be the best. The Saiga is already far superior to other shotguns in its standard form while the Dnipro can be enhanced to be far superior to other assault rifles. Also the Dnipro uses one of the most commonly found amunitions which is whhy you most likely wont run out on ammo. Also you can use AKM weapon upgrades on the Dnipro which are found early on.
Yeah I ended up using the dnipro and the saiga combo, especially the dnipro's attachments and like you said using 5.45 it solid, no matter the playthrough, I'll be heading straight to buy or pick up these weapons in the world before doing anything
Been playing on Stalker difficulty and the viper's been reliable so far, I'm up to the swamps.
One of my favorite weapons is the clusterfuk rifle being an AR416 modified into a dmr, still use the 5.56 ammo and got decent ammo and penetration, but good lord using the scope is unnecessarily difficult due to it getting covered by gas every shot
I used it until I realised it would wear so quickly. It's like 1% per shot. It's just sitting in my stash to look at occasionally since ive moved on to the vintar which does basically the same thing without the visibility issues, a bit more drop that's almost completely managed just by getting the 15% flatness upgrade, and in my opinion, a cool aesthetic.
I can't wait for part 2, I had a bug where the game didn't recognise any blueprints I picked up, so I used a mod to spawn them in (which worked) and I figured I may as well spawn in the named variants of all the guns so I am very curious for your next videos.
Im pretty sure you can get the normal version of the Lynx sniper at the northern checkpoint in the lesser zone, I went into a booby trapped building and some guy on a catwalk started shouting at me. He had a broken one on him
Yeah but the lynx is better and you get it for free and it's mandatory
I haven't seen a Saiga yet, but I have seen the Spas 12, and I also have seen the M700 sniper rifle, before I got the Lynx (but I had already gotten a couple of SVDs before that). I have played like 40 hours and I still haven't seen the Fore 228 yet.
Same here.
I found an emr in the first zone but i dont remember where didnt realise it was an end game gun probably explains why i cant find any ammo for it
man these types of games aren’t for me BUTi love the chernobyl type games that have come out in the past. so I HAD to get this game and let me say i’m absolutely obsessed w everything about it. especially the graphics. man if you have a good pic and a good monitor then this game looks KILLER
I was hoping you would talk about the 5.56 conversion for the Fora-221
can you get a silencer for all weapons or only certain ones?
Pretty much all except shottys, the machine gun, the revolver and a named udp with built in compensator that won't accept silencers, I have seen suppressors for snipers just haven't actually found it in my game
It's important to underline that The Buket S2 does not fit in the small arm slot, making it inefficient.
10:30 - i would love to use UDP instead of skifs starter pistol ... BUT ! ... for that i would have to be able to get rid of skifs pistol ... aallll praise quest items ! 😩😩
You can also upgrade the viper to shoot .45
I love how you say ammo is limited and scarce but you leave your guns on full auto when applicable
PP-19 is king... Later game, but damn it's so good.
As someone playing on console, not having aim assist on snipers like vss or lynx locks me out of using them which is a bummer. Also want to mention your point on shotguns, using saiga early on will drain your coupons in terms of repair. The pump action with 10rnd mag is more than you need and is found early through main quests, but if you insist on semi shotgun, theres a couple of places where you can find a 100% SPAS
I have a mag fed M860.
I've been rocking the drowned rifle u get from the Slag heap as it come with a grenade launcher and I found a suppressor and scope for it not too long after getting it, replacing my VSS. Another comment made u good point about the mac10 being able to be put into the sidearm slot. Might just utilize scoped and silenced AK74S as my stealth rifle for higher capacity, Spas-12 I just found cause i never found a Saiga yet somehow, and now a mac10 to use against bloodsuckers after expending all my slugs lmao
I haven't played the game yet, but advising against caliber sharing sounds really odd to me. In previous games, I always went for caliber sharing when possible. In SoC's Garbage you could get the Viper 9x18, which used the most abundant early game pistol ammo. Later, you could get the 9x39 Big Ben, which used the same ammo as the Tunder, VLA/Avalanche and Vintar, making it possible to use just one ammo (although 9x39 don't become sufficiently common until very late game).
Toz is the best true early game though the m860 takes over once you leave the starting area
The Viper is great early-mid game. Ammo is plentiful. It'll kill anything as long as you're hitting headshots. The range and accuracy are fine and you can boost penetration. The weight is a bit less than anything comparable at the time. You can mod it to fire .45. You can find a 40 round mag. It'll take a holo sight. Set it to single fire for headshots on humans and auto for mutants other than dogs and rats and you'll go far with it.
I've gone through everything with it so far and that includes wandering through much of the northern sections as soon as it was open. I have two of them both fully modded, but the unique one modded to .45. They're both still useful.
if you pre ordered save that ammo til you get the rieman. Thing absolutely shreds.
The 9x19mm FMJ is too heavy though. And SMG eats ammo like breakfas
The unique variant, shahs rifle or whatever is great and I used it until I got the vector some 30 hours later. Its actually quite effective when upgraded all the way.
AKM is 7.62... AKM-*74* is 5.45... Learn. It's like calling a magazine a clip..
Am I the only one who found the SPSA really early on in the Cordon area bandit camp?
What about the spas since it’s in directly across from rookie village somewhere you can go in 39 minutes off the start of the game
Yeah I'm not seeing a lot of armor yet, but it will matter soon enough. I'm currently using all HP until I'm dry.
What is the best assault rifle in the game?
I got the SVDM sniper riffle long before the lynx
Idk, you have to carry Skifs pistol no matter what so I don’t see the need to carry another pistol, personally.
12 inch shotguns? Wow...must be battleship caliber. What you do mean, I believe, is 12.7mm aka .50 cal which the 12 gauge is more or less the same thing.
AKM74U has a way better upgrade path and is the 3rd cheapest repair in game and can mount a red dot.
Since Spray n pray is clearly no option in the game, your accuracy is significant.
Better go for an accurate gun, probably less damage,but keep in mind that switch ammo type, Single fire and headshots if against humans is important.
Up against mutants stick with shotguns imoo😂way better choice
It works if you get the drop on ennemies and are nearly point blank. Perfect if you're picking up guns from fallen enemies as you go and have a stack of ammo to burn through. Get a laser sight or just leave the crosshair on and you'll be shredding early enemies easily.
I have to disagree with M10 - fully upgraded is perfect in CQB to clear inside of buldings.
HOW DID HE PUT ON THE OPTICS? HOW DID HE REMOVE THEM?
What is this deep magic!? How did you put on the optics at @0:45?
If you look in your keybindings there's a key you can bind to this. Default is T I think
Bring us part 2 pleaseeeee
There is a magazine mod for the m860 shotgun. runs great
im using a spas shotgun and ive only just started the noon quests after garbage .... i dont know where i found mine but ive had it for a while ... i may have found it in cordon possibly when i went there for a sight seeing tour before i went though the northern check point after completing the lesser zone quests its an always carry for me as i tend to run with an extra gun in my inventory
Arguably best shotgun in the game imo, there's another variant with a built in scope you can get from completing arena too.
Escape from Tarkov: Hold my beer
how does the kharod with the 5.45 conversion stand up to the 221?
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I went with the 74U instead of 74S because the red dot I bought didn't seem to fit on the S
I found the VS about 10 hours in. Almost immediately on an enemy after going through the north gate for the first time. I have yet to have an enemy drop a usable SVD 20 hours in. I had to buy one from a trader.
Can fund an svd in starting zone. Think ammo is the issue though
Yeah, found SVD pretty early in the first zone. I think it's in the factory near the north gate. There was a sniper in the a heavily trapped building. Didn't look like an RNG.
I liked u better on my eldin ring journey u was such a great content creator I believe u r still but these videos don't go to my heart like ur eldin ring videos hope u get more and more ppl
Real question is: can you increase stats above what the game shows? Like if you have 5 recoil why does the game even include more recoil upgrades? Do you get more recoil or no.
upgrades improve weapon stats beyond base values. some upgrades increase range or accuracy on the stat screen but they do different things, recoil compensation makes the gun handle better by staying on target after shooting (really good for full auto in short range vs mutants) but doesn't actually increase range or accuracy over longer distance. meanwhile bullet drop off actually increases the range you can reliable shoot a target for full dmg. the game lets you customize your weapons for specific tasks, a sniper like weapon doesn't really need recoil since you can generally drop an enemy in 1 headshot from long range before they can fight back, same weapon is rather bad in close quarters when it might be difficult to get a headshot and you don't want to waste rare sniper ammo on body shots, hence why you need something else with better recoil management to fill enemies with bullets (or you can make a hybrid gun to carry fewer weapons). raw dmg isn't the main factor to look at but also penetration since enemies have armor levels (bloodsuckers have 3 which is why they are so tanky in the beginning of the game when you have weapons with just 1 penetration). you need to move on to better penetration weapons even if they do less dmg than starting weapons because it saves ammo in the long run
there is a trader in that house.. and you just killed everyone xD
Integral is good
Still looking for the saiga
As an AS Val lover, where the hell do you even get 9x39 ammo???
bro this video is so chatgpt made that im gonna ask chatgpt myself it will summerise it to 1 min :D
I got an Integral-A in the second area. It’s not late game
Dnipro is the best ive used so far, when i do a hardcore playthrough im gonna beeline it for a high durability dnipro and head to yaniv for the suppressor or buy bit all at yaniv. Then back to wherever im continuing the story
How to get the best scanner?
I’ll wait a bit until it’s been fixed and updated.
Cool.
What about Spas shotgun?
Yiu can get s blueprint to make the pump shotguns a box mag
How are you putting in attachments in game like that
I found an M860 with a 10-round mag. 🤷♂
Me too, it's been carrying me the whole game
I’m playing on normal and have close to 4000 AK rounds. I don’t get how people say ammo is scarce unless hard has like 0 drops
I've only played on the hardest difficulty, so I'm not sure. But, it depends on the ammo type.
video should be title early game
I have over 1000 rounds of every automatic weapon caliber, plus hundreds of rounds of every other caliber. Ammo is not scarce. If it is, you're doing something wrong. I'm pretty sure I bought 5.45 once early game. Aside from that, I've always had plenty of ammo. This game feels like it has far more resources than other stalker games.
viper-5 and bucket s-2 which is better
def bucket s-2, it's better then most AR rifles
s-2, you want the extra penetration