My new "surplus market" is the Police trade in stuff. It's still reasonably priced and in some cases they're basically giving away .40 cal Glocks for 200 bucks. I really like the stuff that's marked "For Police and Government Use Only".
I almost bought a 5906 for $280 on sportsman's guide. By the time I contacted my FFL to make sure they were taking transfers, it was sold out. Can confirm on the .40 glocks. Got a g22.4 for $299 with tritium sights, like new. Put a .357 sig barrel in and it's my woods gun
I had a Fudd at at gun show try to sell me a MAS 36 with a beat up stock and a shit ton of rust for $700 by saying "the bore on this French rifle is in great condition because they surrendered before they could use it" I told him the bore is irrelevant with the current condition of the rifle. Later on another Fudd was selling a Finnish Mosin for $600 it had holes drilled into the chamber for an optics mount that was painful to see.
I got a 1903/38 Turkish Mauser years ago and its probably the best shooting Mauser in my collection. Bolt is glassy smooth, trigger breaks like a glass rod, and shoots a tight group. I held off on getting Turkish Mausers for a long time because a lot of people said they were junk.
Just bought a G-11 from edelweiss arms, subsidiary of KRISS. Excellent gun for $615 shipped. Came with sling, muzzle cover and in a long rifle case* that the G11 actually fits in. Couldn’t recommend them more for any Swiss rifle.
I own two Caranos. One TS and one cavalry carbine. Luckily, they're both in good condition and are pretty accurate. I actually got the ammo a bit before grabbing the first Carcano. This was back when the TS model was only $250.
@@thEannoyingE No, the one he allegedly used was the M91/38, I believe. I own the M91/24 TS and cavalry variant with the fixed bayonet. Anyone who's more versed on the subject, correct me if I'm wrong. They're neat little rifle. I love how the clip slides out the bottom after chambering the last round. Very satisfying.
Same, I got a 1916 TS from Gander mountain before they stopped selling guns. $250 out the door for a WW1 pattern carbine. (Didn’t even have the side sling swivel mounts)
Long time Swedish Mauser fan. Have their target variants as well and just started hand loading for them. Factory ppu and Sellier and Bellot ammo can be found for dirt cheap these days too, in comparison to other full size military calibers
I purchased my Swedish 96 Mauser from Woolworths for under $60.00 many years ago. Love it. It's one of my favorites, shoots flat, and is very accurate.
I really dig my Turk Mauser,ever since i was shown my dads original Swede Mauser i was hooked. Got mine in December for a solid 400. Stock is great and the bore is perfect! Im glad i found the mil surp hobby,but im kinda sad i found it so late lol,prices have gone crazy
The Argentine M1891 Mauser was my first gun in the 60's. Paid $30 for it at Sears. Years later I added the Model 1909 Mauser also in 7.65x51mm, loved it too.
Nice job Mike! Picked up a M96 Swede all matching, beautiful wood, this past year. Here in the northeast, they are approaching 600 bucks quickly. If you want one, don’t hesitate.
3 years ago I bought a Turkish Mauser for $185. I remember the first gun I ever bought in 2002 when I turned 18 was a Mosin Nagant which was $85 at the time at Big 5.
I remember paying $130 around 2015 for a complete Mosin kit that included ammo pouches, bayonet, an oil can, bolt adjustment tool for the firing pin, etc. Wish I bought more if I know the prices were going to inflate to these crazy amounts.
I bought my Turkish Mauser for $280 and I have yet to shoot it but the stock is really good besides 3 cracks in the stock, the bore is also pretty good. A lot of life left in the rifle.
I managed to get a beautiful 1908 Brazilian Mauser for $450 at my local gun show about 6 months ago. I believe it was made in 1910. Besides the marks from where it was dropped or sat on the ground, you would never guess the thing is 110+-years-old. Brazilian crest is in beautiful condition, only ever so slight faded in some spots. I love how it says, "United States of Brazil," which I believe they dropped way back in the 1960's. Everything is original, except the bolt. The stock is in impossibly great condition, I thought it had to be a replacement. Nope. Even still has "7MM" carved into it. Incredible shooter. Accurate, with very little recoil. It's become my second favorite gun, just below my Russian Makarov. I don't think you'll be able to find one in that condition for under $500, though. The guy I bought it from said to me straight up, he knew nothing about it. He made a trade with one of his friends, and the Mauser was included. He was just looking to get rid of it because he had no room for it. I would strongly advise any Mauser fan to buy one if the opportunity presents itself, so long as the price isn't outrageous, of course.
I found a 43 Turkish Mauser in really great shape at a local gun shop for $300. Thanks for the recommendation. It’s not numbers matching (bolt is different) but still a good pickup.
Lately I've found a few good deals centerfire systems did have k31 rifles for $399 but it was missing the magazine. As for finding deals in my neck of the woods most Enfields are around $600 and I bought a Russian captured 98k mauser for $650 and that's here in Kentucky
My favorite surplus rifle has always been the Mosin m44. Partly because you used to be able to get them for under 100$ everywhere and if you know what you're looking for .you can't find a straighter shooting rifle. There's a reason the top snipers in history used the Mosin. Simo hayha the highest scoring sniper in history had access to mousers and Italian rifles and pretty much anything he wanted...and he still used his old iron sight Mosin. My second favorite used to be the 617 Argentine but those aren't really surplus anymore lol. I can't remember the last time I seen anyone get a bulk order. More than 20 years ago now.
Great video Mike, as always. These video do influence the market and it's silly to think they don't. Not just you obviously, all the other big UA-camrs influence this too. Arisakas were sub 250 bucks 1-2 years ago and now they're selling for 650-800+ all day long and I attribute that to people making videos on them.
Hey Mike, WI born MN guy here. I've lucked in to a few decent deals lately. Argentine cav carbine with crest, a beautiful tiger stripe 1903 m96, no4 mk1* long branch, a yugo "capture" k98 mis labeled as a turkish Mauser (from cabelas), and a k31. Except the m96 which came with a bayonet, all sub $500. There's still some reasonable deals out there. Thanks for the great content.
I just got a carcano cavalry carbine for my birthday. My friends said they got it from rti for around 200. It’s a bit beat up, but still has both sling mounts and some rifling. I’m surprised given that it’s production year is 1900. I’m excited to use at least half of the 20 rounds Ive scrounged up at the range.
I just bought a Swedish M96 from a coworker last week for $400. Dated 1907, it's numbers matching except cleaning rod and magazine floor plate. Sweet fiddleback stock and great bore. A nice used sling was $30 and a bayonet was $100. It came with (2) old boxes of Norma 156 gr bottlenose soft points, but I've ordered several boxes of S&B FMJ from my local gun shop for $22 per box. Thanks for the great video!
Glad to say that I've got a Mosin Nagant M91/30, a Carcano M91/38, a Carcano Cavalry Carbine (was my fathers from when he was a boy back in the 60's), and a Mauser M98. Love all of them. They shoot great, are very accurate, and a couple are rather hard hitting (the Mosin especially, it's been trimmed down to a 16 1/4" barrel). But the Carcano can be difficult to find ammo for (PPI is the only place I can find 6.5x52mm ammo for it), but recoil is rather mild and it is a pleasure to shoot.
I’m always a little confused when Mike cites prices. For example, when he says that Swedish Mausers are 350-400 dollars, where is he finding that deal? In person? P2P sales? Asking not because I think he’s wrong but because I wanna find those deals lol.
Hey Mike! Back when I was a younger lad, I could buy SKS from the local B&M new in cosmoline for 59 bucks, the used SMLE's were around the same. Man how times have changed!
I actually have an M93 Turk mauser that was upgraded in the 30's, that still has the magazine cutoff on the side. Hard to come across one of those. Think I paid 100 dollars of so for it about 2 or 3 months ago. Private sale.
Some beautiful examples you have. The Argentine Mauser is near pristine. The Swedish Mausers are my favourite versions with the M38 short rifle at the top of my list.
Great video Mike. We appreciate you. You need to make a video concerning wether a parts kit build is actually surplus. There are many variables and it can go both ways.
@@uttermostvids631 that's the way I'm leaning with it. But a lot of people have different opinions. The way I see it is if it has parts that are surplus then it can be collectable. The market over the past 20 or so years has proved this.
The Swedish Mauser is definitely my favorite for all the reasons given. The brass disc on the stock keeps track of the condition of the barrel and the firearm overall as they were meticulous in their upkeep Most Swedish Mausers are found with good metal due to the Swedes using a higher percentage of copper in their steel. The finest of the Mausers.
The Argentine Mauser is nice for hunters that reload .. because they can run regular. 30 cal bullets just perfectly and will feed any shape of bullet due to its magazine design
I was lucky enough to get into milsurps at the best time, the mid-laten90's into the early 2000's. Back then, we had $29 M38 Turkish Mausers, $39 Mosin 91/30, $69-99 Swede Model 96, various 8mm Mausers less than $250, M1 Carbines for less than $300 unless it was a desirable manufacturer like Winchester or Rock-Ola. Then there was the ammo. I REALLY miss this. 8mm Turkish Mauser was $79/1440 rounds, Russian 7.62x39 $55/1000, Russian steel case .223 $79/1000, and even brass case, boxer primed, non corrosive 7.62x51 NATO made in Venezuela by CAVIM was $150/1000. And the best part? All these prices included shipping! I'm far from rich, but I wish I had the money I have now back then!
I've heard rumors and talks of Ethiopia opening up their surplus stockpiles to the markets. I may be wrong but I've heard a lot of people getting their hands on Italian Papal breachloads. Don't think they'll come on the markets as cheap as the Mosins did or the Carcanos, but really cool and definitely worth a pickup if you are a collector.
I have what used to be a Swedish Mauser, found it at a show and the guy had already changed the stock, stripped the barrel, milled the rear receiver and was missing a couple small parts. I paid a whopping 80 beans for it, just mounted a scope and fixed a few issues and it's my son's first hunting rifle, I may have snuck it out and shot an oryx with it also.
My grandpa had a 1891 argentine mauser it was pristine except for the stock was broke. Everything else was excellent. My mom sold it and im not happy about it
I picked up a swedish 1896 last month. It's absolutely beautiful, made by Mauser. Marked Mauser Oberndorf, 1899. I can't wait to take it out and shoot it with my Husqvarna M38!
Here is the thing about the 1891-30s, all around they are a good rifle, but they ARE NOT WORTH 300+ DOLLARS. Keep in mind I love this thing with a passion I have one myself and a m38 carbine I love them but with taking into account how fucking expensive the good stripper clips are and ŘįMŁõÇķ they are not worth anything over 300, nevertheless if you’re a collector and you want one, don’t let my words stop you it’s a solid gun as Mike basically said :).
“If you can get it to run right” does not give me any faith in the Carncono especially since it’s a bolt action. Shouldn’t take much effort at all to make a bolt action run well.
I have thos old timer at a gunshow that always has insane prices. He has mosins just 91/30s nothing special ww2 run of the mill rifles for $700 but he had an egyptian Rasheed for $350 a Yugoslavia sks for $300 an all matching portuguese contract mauser k98 for $500 and fn49s for $600 each...... deals can be sound just gotta hunt. Good video Mike just wanted to add my experience
Got the Carcano (40 bucks) carbine with no folding bayonet, got the Mosin's one is said to be a Dragoon 1900 date with the double headed eagle(80 bucks), another 1936 dated (60 bucks), the third is a carbine with folding bayonet made in China (110 bucks) because hard to find a Russian made one and the story was a green Beret brought it home from Vietnam after popping a VC who was carrying it (no paper work to prove it though). got two Turkish Mausers in the two different types in original cal, got both with the same price 120 bucks all together, but had to buy a bolt for one for a hundred with bayonet. all rifles are in good condition and not refurbished!
When it comes to barrels I only care about rust, pitting, and erosion. I don't give a shit how dark the bores are. I've also have had great accuracy out of rifles with dark bores.
In my experience Moison Nagants vary in quality but most are easily upgradable. You can float the barrel putting a thin shim between the action and the stock and carefully grinding out the hanguard and finished is not noticable. When buying one look at the muzzle as it was common to redrill the barrel to correct crown problems. There are aftermarket triggers but many are corrected by making sure the trigger screws are snug.
I skipped on a Argentine Mauser years ago, kicking myself for not getting it. The wood was beautiful. I just bought a Ballester Molina and well.. Guess I need a rifle to go along with it.
I don’t have an Argentine or the Swede . I do have 6 different Mosin’s , 9 for the Carcano & 2 Turkish , with a very nice 88-05 Commission Rifle taken out of service & sent to Turkey
I own tons of different surplus firearms. One of my favorites is my 6.5x50 Arisaka type 44. Unfortunately it’s been sporterized , what really sucks is that the chrysanthemum is intact. I’m sure it was done fairly early after the war and these guns weren’t really expected to be that collectible,,,who knows?? Dust cover is gone,which isn’t surprising, guess the Japanese got rid of them quickly too noisy,,turned down bolt handle, wood from the top has been made into design in the stock. Whoever did it did do a nice job but wished it was original. The person I bought it from had no idea what it was and I didn’t pay much for it. I’ve read that some were rechambered to 257 Roberts. Anyway, I still enjoy it. Really enjoy your channel Mike, definitely one of my favorites!
Went to a huge gun show last week and about crapped myself when I saw the prices. Mosins for 800 mausers for 900 enfields for 1000. You could buy a brand new ar cheaper than the old surplus stuff.
Hey I just found a k.kale mauser on gunbroker kinda impulse bought it for 260 dollars lol... it's missing the barrel bands and upper handgaurd any sources that you know of that would have those parts?? Or any knowledge on what military stocks a k.kale m38 would fit in?
IAM a country boy from Louisiana, hunt, fish and collect gun, I never was into new gun , I enjoy older guns. I didn't think much about military surplus but I found myself buying Mausers, Enfield's, krags, sks Czech v 52 and swiss arms the 1873 Winchester and 1884 trapdoor. It was easy to accumulate and trade off gun and not realize how many you had. The only concern I have is if we as a nation don't get a hand on gun control in the form of the damage done in our communities and school and where big business controlled reasonable access to us buying ammo. We will be in trouble should the enemy come.
I've just gotten into collecting the past 4 years since my father died. I've yet to see any M1 Grand (of course I don't really know the years or quality) for less than $900
Where are you seeing the Mosins for 300-400 and the Swedish M38 for 200? The lowest I can find them online is over $700. Is there a site you recommend to find them at those prices?
the issue is that you're looking online for sure. I do doubt you'd find a m38 for 200, yet even with gun prices being high in georgia, my local ffl just had 10+ refurbed m91/30 mosins for $400 each with a bayonet. the best thing you can do is look around at gun shops all around your area
Hey Mike I was inspired by a video a ways back on you channel about yugoslavian mausers. I'm looking at an M24/47, but instead of "Preduzece 44" on the side of the action, it's stamped with what looks like "3ABOD 44". Any thoughts? How could I post a pic of the stamping?
My new "surplus market" is the Police trade in stuff. It's still reasonably priced and in some cases they're basically giving away .40 cal Glocks for 200 bucks. I really like the stuff that's marked "For Police and Government Use Only".
I almost bought a 5906 for $280 on sportsman's guide. By the time I contacted my FFL to make sure they were taking transfers, it was sold out.
Can confirm on the .40 glocks. Got a g22.4 for $299 with tritium sights, like new. Put a .357 sig barrel in and it's my woods gun
Yea, it's funny how the company with the lowest bid that makes the "for police or government use" usually makes some of the cheapest and best stuff.
i just grabbed a blue label gen 4 G23 for 300.00 at auction :D
If those are for “government use only,” what do you use for street criminals?
@@The_SmorgMan The Civie stuff loaded with government parts :D
I remember when the average Carcano ran about $14.95 and the rest of these guns had prices in line with the Carcanos.
And this is why I wish I had the ability to time travel
What else u could buy for $15 back then?
A friend of mine in Texas, Alek Hidell got one with a 4x scope in '63 for $19.95. Don't know what he ended up using it for...
@@Kazuhiroaka Hunting.
@@Brzcastas A week's worth of groceries if you were single. A round of beers at the bar....
I had a Fudd at at gun show try to sell me a MAS 36 with a beat up stock and a shit ton of rust for $700 by saying "the bore on this French rifle is in great condition because they surrendered before they could use it" I told him the bore is irrelevant with the current condition of the rifle.
Later on another Fudd was selling a Finnish Mosin for $600 it had holes drilled into the chamber for an optics mount that was painful to see.
Those M39 are amazing rifles
I got a 1903/38 Turkish Mauser years ago and its probably the best shooting Mauser in my collection. Bolt is glassy smooth, trigger breaks like a glass rod, and shoots a tight group. I held off on getting Turkish Mausers for a long time because a lot of people said they were junk.
I have one. Had the same experience with mine
I like Turtles
Same
I as well like turtles
I'm more of a tortoise guy
@@thomasr11 No, turtles!
I like you 😘
Just bought a G-11 from edelweiss arms, subsidiary of KRISS. Excellent gun for $615 shipped. Came with sling, muzzle cover and in a long rifle case* that the G11 actually fits in. Couldn’t recommend them more for any Swiss rifle.
I own two Caranos. One TS and one cavalry carbine. Luckily, they're both in good condition and are pretty accurate. I actually got the ammo a bit before grabbing the first Carcano. This was back when the TS model was only $250.
Do you have the model Oswald used?
@@thEannoyingE No, the one he allegedly used was the M91/38, I believe. I own the M91/24 TS and cavalry variant with the fixed bayonet. Anyone who's more versed on the subject, correct me if I'm wrong.
They're neat little rifle. I love how the clip slides out the bottom after chambering the last round. Very satisfying.
Same, I got a 1916 TS from Gander mountain before they stopped selling guns.
$250 out the door for a WW1 pattern carbine. (Didn’t even have the side sling swivel mounts)
Long time Swedish Mauser fan. Have their target variants as well and just started hand loading for them. Factory ppu and Sellier and Bellot ammo can be found for dirt cheap these days too, in comparison to other full size military calibers
Can't believe Swedish Mausers are still available at this price, total bargain.
100%
Theyre such good guns. I absolutely adore the 6.5 swedish.
My neck of the woods they are well over $500. Most running $600-$900. My first one I bought for $109 many years ago.
They're not though
I purchased my Swedish 96 Mauser from Woolworths for under $60.00 many years ago. Love it. It's one of my favorites, shoots flat, and is very accurate.
I remember passing are mosins for 100 bucks thinking “what an overpriced piece of junk”
Would be nice to have those days back.
I really dig my Turk Mauser,ever since i was shown my dads original Swede Mauser i was hooked. Got mine in December for a solid 400. Stock is great and the bore is perfect! Im glad i found the mil surp hobby,but im kinda sad i found it so late lol,prices have gone crazy
The Argentine M1891 Mauser was my first gun in the 60's. Paid $30 for it at Sears. Years later I added the Model 1909 Mauser also in 7.65x51mm, loved it too.
Nice job Mike! Picked up a M96 Swede all matching, beautiful wood, this past year. Here in the northeast, they are approaching 600 bucks quickly. If you want one, don’t hesitate.
3 years ago I bought a Turkish Mauser for $185. I remember the first gun I ever bought in 2002 when I turned 18 was a Mosin Nagant which was $85 at the time at Big 5.
Real inflation?
@@Brzcastas yeah lol, and I remember my dad buying a Russian SKS in the early 90s for like $150 now those things are easily over $400.
#5 1:43 Argentine 1891 Mauser
#4 3:38 mentioned at 4:23 Swedish M96
#3 6:39 Mosin Nagant M9130
#2 8:20 Carcano 1891 Cavalry
#1 10:58 Turkish M38 Mauser
$375 is a reasonable estimate for the mosin. That what I paid for mine a few years ago. 1927, hex receiver and all matching. Great video!
I remember paying $130 around 2015 for a complete Mosin kit that included ammo pouches, bayonet, an oil can, bolt adjustment tool for the firing pin, etc. Wish I bought more if I know the prices were going to inflate to these crazy amounts.
I paid 180 in 2016. Came with tools, bayonet, oil can and pouch. Bought it from SOG International.
99.9% of mosins are force matched by armories during refurb.
Swedes are a gem and my favorite for the past 30 years. And getting one with all matching numbers a great find.
I bought my Turkish Mauser for $280 and I have yet to shoot it but the stock is really good besides 3 cracks in the stock, the bore is also pretty good. A lot of life left in the rifle.
I managed to get a beautiful 1908 Brazilian Mauser for $450 at my local gun show about 6 months ago. I believe it was made in 1910. Besides the marks from where it was dropped or sat on the ground, you would never guess the thing is 110+-years-old. Brazilian crest is in beautiful condition, only ever so slight faded in some spots. I love how it says, "United States of Brazil," which I believe they dropped way back in the 1960's. Everything is original, except the bolt. The stock is in impossibly great condition, I thought it had to be a replacement. Nope. Even still has "7MM" carved into it. Incredible shooter. Accurate, with very little recoil. It's become my second favorite gun, just below my Russian Makarov.
I don't think you'll be able to find one in that condition for under $500, though. The guy I bought it from said to me straight up, he knew nothing about it. He made a trade with one of his friends, and the Mauser was included. He was just looking to get rid of it because he had no room for it. I would strongly advise any Mauser fan to buy one if the opportunity presents itself, so long as the price isn't outrageous, of course.
I found a 43 Turkish Mauser in really great shape at a local gun shop for $300.
Thanks for the recommendation. It’s not numbers matching (bolt is different) but still a good pickup.
Spanish 1916 and Chilean 1895 mausers are another models that are under 500. See them very often.
Bought online two 1895s for 500, shipping included.
Lately I've found a few good deals centerfire systems did have k31 rifles for $399 but it was missing the magazine. As for finding deals in my neck of the woods most Enfields are around $600 and I bought a Russian captured 98k mauser for $650 and that's here in Kentucky
My favorite surplus rifle has always been the Mosin m44. Partly because you used to be able to get them for under 100$ everywhere and if you know what you're looking for .you can't find a straighter shooting rifle. There's a reason the top snipers in history used the Mosin. Simo hayha the highest scoring sniper in history had access to mousers and Italian rifles and pretty much anything he wanted...and he still used his old iron sight Mosin. My second favorite used to be the 617 Argentine but those aren't really surplus anymore lol. I can't remember the last time I seen anyone get a bulk order. More than 20 years ago now.
Loved the video. The Swedish Mauser and Carcano are two of my favorites.
According to the fudd that frequents my local shows his argentine is worth 1200 dollars
Oh why of course. "I know what I got sonny"
Great video Mike, as always.
These video do influence the market and it's silly to think they don't. Not just you obviously, all the other big UA-camrs influence this too. Arisakas were sub 250 bucks 1-2 years ago and now they're selling for 650-800+ all day long and I attribute that to people making videos on them.
Hey Mike, WI born MN guy here. I've lucked in to a few decent deals lately. Argentine cav carbine with crest, a beautiful tiger stripe 1903 m96, no4 mk1* long branch, a yugo "capture" k98 mis labeled as a turkish Mauser (from cabelas), and a k31. Except the m96 which came with a bayonet, all sub $500. There's still some reasonable deals out there. Thanks for the great content.
I just got a carcano cavalry carbine for my birthday. My friends said they got it from rti for around 200. It’s a bit beat up, but still has both sling mounts and some rifling. I’m surprised given that it’s production year is 1900. I’m excited to use at least half of the 20 rounds Ive scrounged up at the range.
I just bought a Swedish M96 from a coworker last week for $400. Dated 1907, it's numbers matching except cleaning rod and magazine floor plate. Sweet fiddleback stock and great bore. A nice used sling was $30 and a bayonet was $100. It came with (2) old boxes of Norma 156 gr bottlenose soft points, but I've ordered several boxes of S&B FMJ from my local gun shop for $22 per box. Thanks for the great video!
My buddy got his Turk at a gun show for 199. Cleaned it up and it’s now his favorite milsurp. I’ll have to get one this year.
Glad to say that I've got a Mosin Nagant M91/30, a Carcano M91/38, a Carcano Cavalry Carbine (was my fathers from when he was a boy back in the 60's), and a Mauser M98. Love all of them. They shoot great, are very accurate, and a couple are rather hard hitting (the Mosin especially, it's been trimmed down to a 16 1/4" barrel). But the Carcano can be difficult to find ammo for (PPI is the only place I can find 6.5x52mm ammo for it), but recoil is rather mild and it is a pleasure to shoot.
You trimmed the barrel down? You monster.
@@DieLuftwaffel Not at all, it was already trimmed down when I purchased it.
Thanks
Picked up a 1906 mint condition Swedish Mauser about 2 years ago and I absolutely love it. Beautiful guns and they run just as smooth as they look.
Oh hell yeah.
M96 Swedish Mauser is a very nice firing rifle. The example on the video was a little rough looking compared to what you usually see in the market.
Yep, I like it because I don't feel bad if it gets beat up out on the range or hunting.
@@MikeB128 no offense of course. I’m the same way. They don’t have to be perfect to be fun.
I love my Carcano carbine! Bought it in 2021, it’s a great shooter. PPU ammo is findable here in Florida
Can I ask where? I’m also in Florida and just got one for my birthday.
I’m always a little confused when Mike cites prices. For example, when he says that Swedish Mausers are 350-400 dollars, where is he finding that deal? In person? P2P sales? Asking not because I think he’s wrong but because I wanna find those deals lol.
I have seen the M96 that low, the M38s and the carbines, however....
It's simply not true. I've looked everywhere
I'm going to keep commenting on every video you wear that urban cammo shirt in until you tell me who makes it and where I can get it lol 😆
Hey Mike! Back when I was a younger lad, I could buy SKS from the local B&M new in cosmoline for 59 bucks, the used SMLE's were around the same. Man how times have changed!
Great informative video💖 thank you
I wish any of these prices existed around here, the Mosin-Nagant maybe, but all the others are 600 minimum.
Interesting video. One of the better ones seen in 2023 so far. Thanks a bunch.
Glad you liked it!
I actually have an M93 Turk mauser that was upgraded in the 30's, that still has the magazine cutoff on the side. Hard to come across one of those. Think I paid 100 dollars of so for it about 2 or 3 months ago. Private sale.
I scored a decent 1945 Turkish Mauser with a bent bolt for 125 at my local gun shop a few months ago
Some beautiful examples you have. The Argentine Mauser is near pristine. The Swedish Mausers are my favourite versions with the M38 short rifle at the top of my list.
Great video Mike. We appreciate you.
You need to make a video concerning wether a parts kit build is actually surplus. There are many variables and it can go both ways.
Honestly imo if it’s all original or mostly there you can say surplus or even refurbished
@@uttermostvids631 that's the way I'm leaning with it. But a lot of people have different opinions. The way I see it is if it has parts that are surplus then it can be collectable. The market over the past 20 or so years has proved this.
The Swedish Mauser is definitely my favorite for all the reasons given. The brass disc on the stock keeps track of the condition of the barrel and the firearm overall as they were meticulous in their upkeep Most Swedish Mausers are found with good metal due to the Swedes using a higher percentage of copper in their steel. The finest of the Mausers.
The Argentine Mauser is nice for hunters that reload .. because they can run regular. 30 cal bullets just perfectly and will feed any shape of bullet due to its magazine design
A .30 bullet would be to small would let gas by it and also not engage the rifling
I was lucky enough to get into milsurps at the best time, the mid-laten90's into the early 2000's.
Back then, we had $29 M38 Turkish Mausers, $39 Mosin 91/30, $69-99 Swede Model 96, various 8mm Mausers less than $250, M1 Carbines for less than $300 unless it was a desirable manufacturer like Winchester or Rock-Ola.
Then there was the ammo. I REALLY miss this. 8mm Turkish Mauser was $79/1440 rounds, Russian 7.62x39 $55/1000, Russian steel case .223 $79/1000, and even brass case, boxer primed, non corrosive 7.62x51 NATO made in Venezuela by CAVIM was $150/1000. And the best part? All these prices included shipping!
I'm far from rich, but I wish I had the money I have now back then!
I've heard rumors and talks of Ethiopia opening up their surplus stockpiles to the markets. I may be wrong but I've heard a lot of people getting their hands on Italian Papal breachloads. Don't think they'll come on the markets as cheap as the Mosins did or the Carcanos, but really cool and definitely worth a pickup if you are a collector.
They already opened it up. 99% of it is worn out trash wall hangers
I have what used to be a Swedish Mauser, found it at a show and the guy had already changed the stock, stripped the barrel, milled the rear receiver and was missing a couple small parts. I paid a whopping 80 beans for it, just mounted a scope and fixed a few issues and it's my son's first hunting rifle, I may have snuck it out and shot an oryx with it also.
Great video. How about doing an alternate video on sporters? Sporters are under rated for collecting.
Ive own a turkish mauser for several years , and its a great shooter . I've used it deer hunting and gotten a lot deer with it .
Just got a nice Argentine 1891 for 300 bucks, nice bore, great exterior condition!
My grandpa had a 1891 argentine mauser it was pristine except for the stock was broke. Everything else was excellent. My mom sold it and im not happy about it
Great info. I'm still on the fence about what to buy.
I finally got a m38 Turkish Mauser last year and it’s one of my bolt action rifles to shoot
I over paid a little bit but I’m glad I have one
I picked up a swedish 1896 last month. It's absolutely beautiful, made by Mauser. Marked Mauser Oberndorf, 1899. I can't wait to take it out and shoot it with my Husqvarna M38!
Thank ya Mike
Got my vz 24 for 450 unmodified made in 1927 with a matching stock
Here is the thing about the 1891-30s, all around they are a good rifle, but they ARE NOT WORTH 300+ DOLLARS. Keep in mind I love this thing with a passion I have one myself and a m38 carbine I love them but with taking into account how fucking expensive the good stripper clips are and ŘįMŁõÇķ they are not worth anything over 300, nevertheless if you’re a collector and you want one, don’t let my words stop you it’s a solid gun as Mike basically said :).
I agree, but government....
“If you can get it to run right” does not give me any faith in the Carncono especially since it’s a bolt action. Shouldn’t take much effort at all to make a bolt action run well.
I recently saw an M96 at a local gun show for $800 ! Reckon I need to find happier venues, huh ?!
I have thos old timer at a gunshow that always has insane prices. He has mosins just 91/30s nothing special ww2 run of the mill rifles for $700 but he had an egyptian Rasheed for $350 a Yugoslavia sks for $300 an all matching portuguese contract mauser k98 for $500 and fn49s for $600 each...... deals can be sound just gotta hunt. Good video Mike just wanted to add my experience
Got the Carcano (40 bucks) carbine with no folding bayonet, got the Mosin's one is said to be a Dragoon 1900 date with the double headed eagle(80 bucks), another 1936 dated (60 bucks), the third is a carbine with folding bayonet made in China (110 bucks) because hard to find a Russian made one and the story was a green Beret brought it home from Vietnam after popping a VC who was carrying it (no paper work to prove it though). got two Turkish Mausers in the two different types in original cal, got both with the same price 120 bucks all together, but had to buy a bolt for one for a hundred with bayonet. all rifles are in good condition and not refurbished!
Prices are a lot higher here in Hoosierville of the modern times, always expect to at least 50 percent more or higher for all firearms and ammo.
When it comes to barrels I only care about rust, pitting, and erosion. I don't give a shit how dark the bores are. I've also have had great accuracy out of rifles with dark bores.
Same.
What do you think about the German 8 mm mauser
In my experience Moison Nagants vary in quality but most are easily upgradable. You can float the barrel putting a thin shim between the action and the stock and carefully grinding out the hanguard and finished is not noticable. When buying one look at the muzzle as it was common to redrill the barrel to correct crown problems. There are aftermarket triggers but many are corrected by making sure the trigger screws are snug.
Got a Turkish M38 as my 2nd gun around Christmas have yet too shoot it tho I like it alot
Wish I could find a 91-30 for that price here. They're running 600+ for run of the mill here. Occasionally find a small shop with one sub 500
I would say the gewehr 88s can also be found for 3-500 bucks and as a bonus they're antiques
I skipped on a Argentine Mauser years ago, kicking myself for not getting it. The wood was beautiful. I just bought a Ballester Molina and well.. Guess I need a rifle to go along with it.
i’m glad i picked up a turk mauser it’s a blast to shoot and i have something to use my all the 8mm i picked up lmao
Swedish Mauser my favorite 2nd is Argentine great video as always
I don’t have an Argentine or the Swede . I do have 6 different Mosin’s , 9 for the Carcano & 2 Turkish , with a very nice 88-05 Commission Rifle taken out of service & sent to Turkey
I can’t wait for the 2024 list
I have 3 of your picks. Swedish Mauser...love it. '35 Mosin and a Carcano like yours.
No longer available at $500 or less proves how good the Lee Enfield Mk.4 really is. $800 for a good one if you can find a seller.
I own tons of different surplus firearms. One of my favorites is my 6.5x50 Arisaka type 44. Unfortunately it’s been sporterized , what really sucks is that the chrysanthemum is intact. I’m sure it was done fairly early after the war and these guns weren’t really expected to be that collectible,,,who knows?? Dust cover is gone,which isn’t surprising, guess the Japanese got rid of them quickly too noisy,,turned down bolt handle, wood from the top has been made into design in the stock. Whoever did it did do a nice job but wished it was original. The person I bought it from had no idea what it was and I didn’t pay much for it. I’ve read that some were rechambered to 257 Roberts. Anyway, I still enjoy it. Really enjoy your channel Mike, definitely one of my favorites!
Went to a huge gun show last week and about crapped myself when I saw the prices. Mosins for 800 mausers for 900 enfields for 1000. You could buy a brand new ar cheaper than the old surplus stuff.
I got a Polish Mauser K98 Sporterized for less than $400. Do you think was a good buy?
I don't answer questions like that.
@@MikeB128 sorry, no bad intention.
The Argentine Mauser is a fantastic pick.
Is there recommended sites to find rifles in these price ranges?
Where is the best place to buy surplus rifles in your opinion
I've made several videos covering that topic. At this point, you will need deep pockets.
Where are you finding the rifles at these prices?
That's what I'm saying. They're over double the price of what he's putting them at. Not sure where he's getting these prices from.
Yugoslavia m48s are nice as well and can be picked up relatively cheap.
Hey I just found a k.kale mauser on gunbroker kinda impulse bought it for 260 dollars lol... it's missing the barrel bands and upper handgaurd any sources that you know of that would have those parts?? Or any knowledge on what military stocks a k.kale m38 would fit in?
IAM a country boy from Louisiana, hunt, fish and collect gun, I never was into new gun , I enjoy older guns. I didn't think much about military surplus but I found myself buying Mausers, Enfield's, krags, sks Czech v 52 and swiss arms the 1873 Winchester and 1884 trapdoor. It was easy to accumulate and trade off gun and not realize how many you had.
The only concern I have is if we as a nation don't get a hand on gun control in the form of the damage done in our communities and school and where big business controlled reasonable access to us buying ammo. We will be in trouble should the enemy come.
We've crossed the point of no return, I'm afraid.
Where can you find Swedish and Argentine mausers for those prices?
Won't the price of imported ammo outpace the cost of these rifles in the long run?
Enfield 303's are the best out there imo.
I just gotta find where to get one of those Mosins now
I've just gotten into collecting the past 4 years since my father died. I've yet to see any M1 Grand (of course I don't really know the years or quality) for less than $900
Where are you seeing the Mosins for 300-400 and the Swedish M38 for 200? The lowest I can find them online is over $700. Is there a site you recommend to find them at those prices?
the issue is that you're looking online for sure. I do doubt you'd find a m38 for 200, yet even with gun prices being high in georgia, my local ffl just had 10+ refurbed m91/30 mosins for $400 each with a bayonet. the best thing you can do is look around at gun shops all around your area
This video is about an M96 swede, not a M38, big difference
Where can I find these surplus weapons
I've made multiple videos on that topic. Search my channel.
What uniform top are you wearing???
Hey Mike
I was inspired by a video a ways back on you channel about yugoslavian mausers. I'm looking at an M24/47, but instead of "Preduzece 44" on the side of the action, it's stamped with what looks like "3ABOD 44". Any thoughts? How could I post a pic of the stamping?
Supposedly they made a carcono in 7.35mm×51 in 1939 but went back to 6.5mm bullets a year or two later.
Correct, and sent most of them with the ammo to Finland.
I like your selection. I used to have a Carcano good gun I have a Turkish 8mm masher good hunting and target gun,David Back.
Thanks
Deus Vult 😎