As per patch 6.3, curing waltz and shield samba can be used during standard step and technical step. Keep in mind this will clip your gcd so its mostly useful during down time when youre preparing your dance.
Can I also just say how absolutely lovely it is to have the refreshing classical music in the background and with an appropriate volume? I struggle so much with certain videos because the bg music is often so distracting, busy, loud, or harsh.
Seriously the best guide I've seen on how to play a job. Straight forward and clear. The classical music is a fantastic addition to have in the background.
Gotta say I played dancer before hand which made understanding most of this quite matching to my own deductions, but i still learned from it, good job!
first of all, I really love your guides, they are super chill and appropriately indepth while being approachable :3. Icy veins text guides have your guides linked, I was curious if you also wrote/were involved in making those too? Thats how i found u
Just came back to the game after being gone a couple of years and am "re-learning" Dancer (and the entire game) and was wondering if you plan on doing a current release update guide for Dancer?
Thats incorrect, the most recent DP priority is actually: sam>nin>mnk>rpr>drg>blm>smn>rdm>mch>brd>dnc This video was made in 6.1 however is still relevant barring the dance partner part which you should be using partner calc for anyway.
yep, hold on to 3 charges for the burst and spend any 4ths you get to prevent overcapping. Doing this allows your tech and devilment to buff your feathers damage and increases your damage significantly
This was the hardest thing for me to stop doing when I finally settled into DNC being my main. I still find myself sometimes going for the button when it lights up immediately on proc xD
This video was made in 6.0, not enough changed to warrant making a new video. But you’re right the DP priority is different, that said, everyone should just be running partner calc anyway ^^”
I got a question, I know it’s been a year so I don’t know if anyone will respond, but with flourish can I technically use that twice because it’s a 60 sec cooldown and tech step is 120 sec cooldown, so could I weave flourish in once I’ve finished the second standard step while tech step is halfway through cooldown?
I'm not really getting why wouldn't you use Flourish after the first standard finish and then go to technical step cause I don't think it clips anything if you do? Am I wrong here?
It has to do with ping. You can only flourish when in combat so you would need to weave it after SS hits in your prepull. A lot of people clip Tech because of this which is pretty bad as it misaligns your buffs. If you can pull it off without clipping or losing proc’s then by all means you are free to do it, it could net you one extra usage if you have a kill time around x:07.
This is due to your buffs. You want high potency actions such as saber dance to be used as much as possible within devilment and technical finish. 80 esprit is the point until we can hold without risking overcap which is why we prefer holding until 80 to have a higher chance of having esprit going into buffs. If you spend at 50 you might not get a lot for esprit back before the buffs and thus have a less powerful burst. Spending at 80 guarentees you have atleast 30 left still.
Usually for a reopener you prep SS and then go into tech. Using standard after teach is only a gain if you do not have any procs or saberdances to spend
If I'm < 20 seconds out from my 2 minute burst window and cap on my Esprit/Feathers, is it best to hold off on Saber Dance and Fan Dance for the burst window or continue to use them at cap as usual?
i have a question. lets say im about to reach the 2 minute burst window and my technical step is about to be up to use (8 secs before its up) i do the burst window and then after that i use standard step? Another question.... if i have for example fountainfall, reverse cascade and saber dance available to use and i need to use technical step for the 2 minute burst window... should i delay the usage for them to use technical step? Ive been struggling a lot to increase my parse and im trying to get better. Thanks for this guide i appreciate it =)
The opener clip used the abilities in a different order from the balance one? They used fan dance IV > tillana > fan dance iii ? Why is that? Shouldn’t it be fan dance iii > tillana > fan dance IV ?
Was curious about the hotbar buttons you use in the video. Is there any reason/advantage to arrange the ability/weaponskills in this way (e.g. is it more intuitive to press)? Cause mine is simply 1234 for the weaponskills so trying to understand why you arranged your ability/weaponskills the way you did in the video.
Theres no reason, this is just what’s comfortable for me. Not everyone has the same hand size, finger dexterity, or even setup (mmo mouse/controller) so you should just bind how its most comfortable for you.
Dancer is the easiest dps they say. Then I watch a video showing me a 17 button press opener lol. I'll stick to healing but feel compelled to level at least something for dps.
Hello! Trying to improve as a dancer but I seem to keep getting this suggestion on analysis about "# feathers may have been lost" but there are runs that I'm sure I never capped my feathers, is there a tip to improve on this or is this normal for any DNC to get due to procs?
@@Juliacare Thank you for the response and I'll try to adapt that discipline. Umm one more question as I struggle a bit with this but is there any advice on espirit capping I seem to can't control it easily and I overcap when some guide says to use it when it gets to 80 but my partner gives me espirit randomly so it caps on inconvenient times, is this a common problem that even expert dancers go through and have to just accept?
@@Juliacare Thank you for the tip and sorry if my reply is late. I'm applying all your tips on my current weekly run and it's helping me slowly improve. I hope to one day get really better with DNC despite people whining about its low dps I love how it supports the team. :) Also you mentioned Noclippy and Alexander umm where do you get those programs?
until they stop ignoring our data, forum posts and direct feedback about the netcode. I will not stop recommending noclippy or xivalexander. People with 100ms are at a substantial disadvantage without them. This can all be solved relatively easily but SE chooses to ignore that this is an issue in the first place and keeps pointing at our ISP providers instead. Monkeys honestly.
@@Robulite they’ve been sent entire documents covering the issue since the start of SB, yet they chose to ignore it or blamed the ISP’s instead whilst addons solved the issue with ease. Not sure why SE can’t just do that as well. Guess ignorance is bliss.
As per patch 6.3, curing waltz and shield samba can be used during standard step and technical step. Keep in mind this will clip your gcd so its mostly useful during down time when youre preparing your dance.
Can I also just say how absolutely lovely it is to have the refreshing classical music in the background and with an appropriate volume? I struggle so much with certain videos because the bg music is often so distracting, busy, loud, or harsh.
Man, the way you broke this down made the Dancer way more approachable. Thank you!
Seriously the best guide I've seen on how to play a job. Straight forward and clear. The classical music is a fantastic addition to have in the background.
Gotta say I played dancer before hand which made understanding most of this quite matching to my own deductions, but i still learned from it, good job!
this has mad sense of so many things! thank you so much!
Nice music, nice voice and nice guide!
first of all, I really love your guides, they are super chill and appropriately indepth while being approachable :3. Icy veins text guides have your guides linked, I was curious if you also wrote/were involved in making those too? Thats how i found u
I write the machinist guides for icy veins, yea
Thanks
looks easy and fun
This video has learned me that I'll never master Dancer, it's way too much for my simple brain.
Keep at it and practice, you’ll get the hang of it
You getting use to it when you commit to ... Lots of rng or impro too
Damn, dancer has so many abilities, it is confusing to keep track of them.
You’ll get there!
Quick Tip for new dancers, don't use En Avant in direction to a wall/board of a arena, especially in High-End content 💀
En Avant is amazing, it makes DSR and TOP so comfy. Gotta learn to use it though, and not kill yourself yea
@@Juliacare tbh, the hardest part of playing dancer
Just came back to the game after being gone a couple of years and am "re-learning" Dancer (and the entire game) and was wondering if you plan on doing a current release update guide for Dancer?
Looking at FFLogs and recent Savage and Ultimates, I would say dance partners would be NIN>MNK>SAM>DRG>RPR>BLM>SMN>RDM>MCH>BRD>DNC
Thats incorrect, the most recent DP priority is actually:
sam>nin>mnk>rpr>drg>blm>smn>rdm>mch>brd>dnc
This video was made in 6.1 however is still relevant barring the dance partner part which you should be using partner calc for anyway.
So I DO have to use Standard Step every 30 seconds? o:
Yes
*facepalm*
So let me get this straight, its better to save your fourfold feathers for the 2 min burst than to spend them as they come?
yep, hold on to 3 charges for the burst and spend any 4ths you get to prevent overcapping. Doing this allows your tech and devilment to buff your feathers damage and increases your damage significantly
This was the hardest thing for me to stop doing when I finally settled into DNC being my main. I still find myself sometimes going for the button when it lights up immediately on proc xD
Dancer seems hard. Therefore now I’m obsessed to be at least ok with this class lol. Haven’t played in 4 years. Wish me luck !!
Good luck! You can do it
Dancer is one of the easiest jobs in the game, along with summoner.
For 6.2, your DP prio list is incorrect. Great video, just wanted to point out the oversight.
This video was made in 6.0, not enough changed to warrant making a new video. But you’re right the DP priority is different, that said, everyone should just be running partner calc anyway ^^”
My only question is this.. Do we pick the Dance partner or is it automatically chosen, is it based whos near you?
I got a question, I know it’s been a year so I don’t know if anyone will respond, but with flourish can I technically use that twice because it’s a 60 sec cooldown and tech step is 120 sec cooldown, so could I weave flourish in once I’ve finished the second standard step while tech step is halfway through cooldown?
Yes, you use it on cooldown. So with technical finish and once inbetween each usage.
I'm not really getting why wouldn't you use Flourish after the first standard finish and then go to technical step cause I don't think it clips anything if you do? Am I wrong here?
It has to do with ping. You can only flourish when in combat so you would need to weave it after SS hits in your prepull. A lot of people clip Tech because of this which is pretty bad as it misaligns your buffs.
If you can pull it off without clipping or losing proc’s then by all means you are free to do it, it could net you one extra usage if you have a kill time around x:07.
@@Juliacare Cool, thanks. I'll just keep using it like before then cause that feels natural to me and have not had those clipping issues myself.
why not use saber dance at 50 gauge, why hold it to 80 gauge???
This is due to your buffs. You want high potency actions such as saber dance to be used as much as possible within devilment and technical finish.
80 esprit is the point until we can hold without risking overcap which is why we prefer holding until 80 to have a higher chance of having esprit going into buffs. If you spend at 50 you might not get a lot for esprit back before the buffs and thus have a less powerful burst. Spending at 80 guarentees you have atleast 30 left still.
For the reopener you mentioned holding standard to properly align technical step. Would it be a dps gain to always use standard after technical?
Usually for a reopener you prep SS and then go into tech. Using standard after teach is only a gain if you do not have any procs or saberdances to spend
@@Juliacare I see thanks for the quick reply!
If I'm < 20 seconds out from my 2 minute burst window and cap on my Esprit/Feathers, is it best to hold off on Saber Dance and Fan Dance for the burst window or continue to use them at cap as usual?
Continue to use just before cap as usual
i have a question. lets say im about to reach the 2 minute burst window and my technical step is about to be up to use (8 secs before its up) i do the burst window and then after that i use standard step?
Another question.... if i have for example fountainfall, reverse cascade and saber dance available to use and i need to use technical step for the 2 minute burst window... should i delay the usage for them to use technical step?
Ive been struggling a lot to increase my parse and im trying to get better. Thanks for this guide i appreciate it =)
Yea as long as technical doesnt drift you still send SS
Yes so long you dont overcap or overwrite them
Good luck! You can do it
Should i hold my devilment in dungeons until a have 4 feathers?
No
The opener clip used the abilities in a different order from the balance one? They used fan dance IV > tillana > fan dance iii ? Why is that? Shouldn’t it be fan dance iii > tillana > fan dance IV ?
Its dps neutral so makes no difference
I thought maybe it was because of changes but I noticed the actual changes, it’s a shame it has to resort to this.
yep.. :)
Was curious about the hotbar buttons you use in the video. Is there any reason/advantage to arrange the ability/weaponskills in this way (e.g. is it more intuitive to press)? Cause mine is simply 1234 for the weaponskills so trying to understand why you arranged your ability/weaponskills the way you did in the video.
Theres no reason, this is just what’s comfortable for me. Not everyone has the same hand size, finger dexterity, or even setup (mmo mouse/controller) so you should just bind how its most comfortable for you.
Dancer is the easiest dps they say. Then I watch a video showing me a 17 button press opener lol. I'll stick to healing but feel compelled to level at least something for dps.
This is harder than organic chemistry🤌🏼🤌🏼
how'd you get your dancer step icon to look like that?
Im unsure what youre talking about
@@Juliacare the dancer icons for the dance steps (2:56) are different, was there a settling to change the dancer gauge to look like that?
@@alexnguyen7385 thats just the simple version of the job gauge. Go into the hud editor and when selecting your job gauge, tag simple version.
@@Juliacare thank you, never knew that option even existed.
@@alexnguyen7385 You're very welcome. They are a blessing, a lot more readable than the fancy graphic ones.
Hello! Trying to improve as a dancer but I seem to keep getting this suggestion on analysis about "# feathers may have been lost"
but there are runs that I'm sure I never capped my feathers, is there a tip to improve on this or is this normal for any DNC to get due to procs?
Heya, try to hover 3 feathers and spend any fourths you gain unless you’re about to enter a tech window.
@@Juliacare Thank you for the response and I'll try to adapt that discipline. Umm one more question as I struggle a bit with this but is there any advice on espirit capping I seem to can't control it easily and I overcap when some guide says to use it when it gets to 80 but my partner gives me espirit randomly so it caps on inconvenient times, is this a common problem that even expert dancers go through and have to just accept?
@@Auharu during tech windows use it at 50, outside you can use it at 70 or even 60 aslong as you know youll have 80 by the time tech comes off cd
@@Juliacare Thank you for the tip and sorry if my reply is late. I'm applying all your tips on my current weekly run and it's helping me slowly improve. I hope to one day get really better with DNC despite people whining about its low dps I love how it supports the team. :) Also you mentioned Noclippy and Alexander umm where do you get those programs?
@@Auharu xivalexander is a stand alone program whilst noclippy is a plugin for the dalamud launcher. Just google them and you’ll find it.
Drink some water
your mic sure is sensitive. I can hear your every lip smacking...
encouraging the use of THIRD PARTY TOOLS ruh roh
until they stop ignoring our data, forum posts and direct feedback about the netcode. I will not stop recommending noclippy or xivalexander. People with 100ms are at a substantial disadvantage without them. This can all be solved relatively easily but SE chooses to ignore that this is an issue in the first place and keeps pointing at our ISP providers instead. Monkeys honestly.
@@Juliacare TBF they didn't realize it was such a bad issue and only recently mentioned the lag being painful in a live letter
@@Robulite they’ve been sent entire documents covering the issue since the start of SB, yet they chose to ignore it or blamed the ISP’s instead whilst addons solved the issue with ease. Not sure why SE can’t just do that as well. Guess ignorance is bliss.