Main Difference in Kubota and John Deere Skid Steers!

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
  • In this video we show some key differences between the John Deere and Kubota line of compact track loaders and skid steers. These include such things as maintenance differences, build, and many other things you should check out when you’re in the market for one of these machines!
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    0:00 - Introduction
    0:26 - Undercarriage Comparison: Differences in undercarriage designs between John Deere (bolted on) and Kubota (welded on), and the implications for servicing and stability.
    2:20 - Serviceability Comparison: Examining rear service points, accessibility, and ease of servicing both brands, highlighting the convenience of John Deere's design.
    4:00 - Accessibility for Servicing: Discussing how to access under-cab components in both brands and the ease of doing so.
    5:38 - Auxiliary Hydraulics: Comparison of hydraulic systems, focusing on the number of couplers and line placements in both brands.
    7:20 - Door Designs: Contrasting the door designs of John Deere (swing open) and Kubota (slide open) and their impact on safety and cab pressurization.
    9:37 - Cab Interior and Controls: Reviewing the cab interiors, control layouts, visibility, and comfort features of both brands.
    16:55 - Lifting Capacity and Cost of Ownership: Discussing the differences in lifting capacities and long-term cost of ownership between the two brands.
    18:58 - Conclusion
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  • @philipjmaddox
    @philipjmaddox 7 місяців тому +22

    I'm a Deere guy. That being said, this was a clearly biased review favoring the Deere. The door is a game changer and you minimized it by saying it didn't seal well. Nah. Seals just fine.

    • @88cruzer1
      @88cruzer1 6 місяців тому +5

      He doesnt know anything about Kubota's. Its obvious. There's a latch at the front of the door on the bottom.

    • @HighCountrySolutions
      @HighCountrySolutions 4 місяці тому +1

      Literally, kubota doors do not last..they jam, rattle and after bit the doors just stay up, because there a pain.

    • @rontopping2048
      @rontopping2048 3 місяці тому

      ​@@HighCountrySolutionscorrect and very heavy

    • @samchampagne2241
      @samchampagne2241 Місяць тому

      The deeres doors don’t seal well either

    • @shiraz1736
      @shiraz1736 22 дні тому

      I sat in a kabota just the other day and found this style of door to be flimsy and overrated.

  • @andrevernon1932
    @andrevernon1932 6 місяців тому +8

    I do not have any experience with operating a Deere, but I own Kubota and have operated for thousands of hours on jobs. Kubota is a great machine, and I believe that I could point out many advantages. I much prefer Kubota's full hydraulic pilot controls compared to electric-over-hydraulic types, as I believe that I can operate most accurately and without lag in response time. I also have the theory that fully hydraulic is going to be more reliable. I am not a big fan of more electrical / electronics. As I get older, there are some advantages that I especially appreciate about Kubota. Stepping up into the Kubota is the easiest I've experienced with the lower height of the bottom of the door opening, and the wider door opening. I spend many, many hours operating a compact track loader. That said, there are many jobsite conditions that require me to get out, and back into the machine many, many times per day. The Kubota arm wrests are very quick, and much easier to just flick up, and back down than moving a big horseshoe single piece all the way over my head, and back down every time. The Kubota arm wrests also have an excellent designed shape and padding density. Again, I'm getting older and my shoulders hate the horseshoe, and very much appreciate the Kubota design. And how about that Kubota cab space? I doubt anyone beats it, and I know that some other brands are far less spacious in every way. Leg room, elbow room, head space, all of it. I have the notion that Kubota's control switches are down low because there is plenty of room for them, and that some other brands put them up high because of a lack of space. Another important Kubota advantage over some brands (I don't know how the Deere compares on this) is that for me the pilot controls are absolutely perfectly positioned. They are exactly ergonomically correct for me. I know that some other brands are not even close to being ergonomically correct. For me, control switches on the Kubota being down low is also an advantage. I find it easier to handle those down low than having to reach up high. And about sunlight, the sunlight is more likely to blind you when you have to look up than when looking down at control switches, etc. In my opinion, that is a Kubota advantage. From a performance standpoint, I believe that Kubota is going to be very hard to beat, and will probably outperform the majority of the competition. As for reliability, based on my experience, the Kubota is second to none. I do not believe anyone can beat it's reliability. How high is the top of the Deere's cab? It looks significantly higher. On most jobs that does not matter, but on some jobs it is advantageous to be lower to go under obstacles. What about ground clearance? That does matter, and Kubota has the advantage. There are certainly many other details that could be discussed, but I know that if I were going to buy a new CTL today, it would be Kubota, 100%. My second choice would be Takeuchi. When it comes to getting maximum work done, I do not believe that any other brand will beat those two. To be fair, the Deere does have some advantages. It does appear that some maintenance components are easier to access. But, there might some trade-off with so many removable panels on the Deere. Is there a disadvantage from the standpoint of loss of overall rigidity of the machine? We never intend to have accidents, but what happens to the Deere if it makes a hard rear impact with another piece of equipment? In that situation, I believe the rigidity of the Kubota would have an advantage with its rigidity. Will some of those Deere panels become loose and rattle over time? I don't know, but I wonder. That is my two cents. I'm not a salesman of any brand. I am an owner / operator that spends countless hours doing work, operating equipment for a living.

    • @shiraz1736
      @shiraz1736 22 дні тому

      Thanks for your information. Unfortunately we are looking at a machine specifically for mulching and so far I have noticed many people saying that the kabotas hydraulics overheat when they are worked hard with a mulcher, and unfortunately we just can't take a chance with these ridiculous prices these days to buy one and have cooling issues. We're not sure what to get tbh.

  • @tylorcox8914
    @tylorcox8914 3 дні тому

    nice review im a deere guy.. there is also a handle inside the cab that will release the boom in the event your machine shuts off for whatever reason. only thing that would stop you from getting out would be if something was under the boom.

  • @Plowboy70
    @Plowboy70 7 місяців тому +4

    I’m an overhead door guy, someday the others will figure out the sales they are giving away. Lots of great skid steers out there. Service, parts & dealerships make the biggest difference.

    • @shiraz1736
      @shiraz1736 22 дні тому

      I checked out loaders with these doors, and though exactly what he said, they seem flimsy, and I could create air gaps to the cab chassis just by applying a bit of pressure to the door.

  • @boosteddartls2833
    @boosteddartls2833 3 місяці тому +1

    The overhead sliding window is very common and great use here , he clearly is a JD guy

  • @279gax
    @279gax 7 місяців тому

    Great and informative video, thanks!

  • @Dorko85
    @Dorko85 7 місяців тому +2

    The JD is an awesome skid, I do hate the door as the boom has to be up or down. Sometimes it’s painful

  • @dansdiesel767
    @dansdiesel767 7 місяців тому +7

    Dude why do a comparison if your absolutely biased on deer just say I love deer and could care less about Kubota

    • @williamg.6835
      @williamg.6835 6 місяців тому +1

      Agreed. Video should be titled “why I prefer John Deere skid steers to Kubota”. I hate it when people just point out every little thing they don’t like.

  • @NoblemansXchange
    @NoblemansXchange 4 дні тому

    I like that crispy new Deere looks nice. That being said Kubota all day.

  • @_P0tat07_
    @_P0tat07_ 2 місяці тому

    Im a huge Deere fan. They make fantastic machines. But I also do trust kubota. I’ve never run a skid steer so I can’t make any comments on that. But I’ve run a kubota mini excavator for a few hours and found it very comfortable. And kubota engines are very reliable, much like the yanmar engines Deere uses. I trust both the engines to be very reliable given they’re taken care of and serviced.
    The cab in the Deere definitely looks well thought out but I do think I’d prefer the slide up door on the kubota. I’m a short guy so headroom isn’t an issue for me. But I’d also like to be able to run equipment with the door open if needed.
    If I had the budget for the Deere, I’d definitely take it.

  • @Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration
    @Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration 7 місяців тому +2

    1) What is your price on the John Deere?
    2) Will you deliver to Indiana?

  • @timroberge1498
    @timroberge1498 7 місяців тому +2

    I love Kubota products and I started out wanting the Kubota...until I demoed it. I hated the cab, it squeaked, the door chattered, hydraulic and engine noise above 1/2 throttle was awful. The door was way too hard to get in and out of in a hurry, especially with something other than a dirt bucket on it. The lights on the back of the cab shined directly onto the cross bar on the loader boom, which reflected a bright orange glare onto the front windshield, that crossbar also blocked a lot of the rear facing light facing work light. None of the controls or switches were in convenient places, radio and HVAC controls were behind the operator and no auto idle. The Deere is hands down the nicer machine, so much more thought out. But the Kubota is like $15-20K cheaper. The Deere is the machine you buy for yourself to run, you buy the Kubota for someone else to run.

    • @rontopping7811
      @rontopping7811 7 місяців тому +1

      Svl75-3 is totally different than -2 models. Quieter in cab than my bobcat t 66 . One piece cab . Game changer do your homework. -3 across line soon

    • @countrycaretakerpropertyse7981
      @countrycaretakerpropertyse7981 7 місяців тому

      Im a bobcat guy. I want to demo a -3 but I just wish these other companies would come out with more clear cab options for visibility.@@rontopping7811

  • @rontopping2048
    @rontopping2048 5 місяців тому +1

    Only benefit to double flange roller is ride quality. Does not increase power to ground .

  • @bradh74
    @bradh74 7 місяців тому +1

    Wish I could afford one. Most of the guys I know like their New Holland skid steers because they last for a long time. They aren't cheap either, JD makes some nice stuff but you pay for a name and there no telling how long it'll last.

  • @chucks4328
    @chucks4328 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm going to say I prefer the battery placement on the Kubota. On my JD 320d to replace the battery the manual says to start the machine and raise the boom. I'm replacing the battery because it won't start. I'm on my third battery and the original jd battery was good. It shorted out and wouldn't take a booster. It can be done but prepare for smashed fingers. No machine is perfect. There's things I like about the JD better and things I like on the Kubota better.

    • @banffdigger
      @banffdigger 7 місяців тому +2

      Seems to me like the with the deere if you have a major issue and can't raise the boom your SOL, whether it be electrical or hyd. I haven't ran a newer deere but I hated the old ones I ran.

    • @chucks4328
      @chucks4328 7 місяців тому +1

      @@banffdigger Pretty much spot on. I think all skid loaders suffer from that issue but the JD is worse.

  • @Charlie-go6eb
    @Charlie-go6eb 6 місяців тому +1

    One other thing, anybody think this sales guy actually knows how to use these machines.

  • @mikemccrary9346
    @mikemccrary9346 4 місяці тому

    Does the 317 have high flow

    • @rontopping2048
      @rontopping2048 3 місяці тому

      No not available on 317. Standard flow 17gpm

  • @rontopping7811
    @rontopping7811 7 місяців тому +1

    Kubota svl75-3 now has one piece cab .much quieter cab Radiators above the engine now. Serviceability is the best in class. Compare a svl75-3 and 325 g .

    • @88cruzer1
      @88cruzer1 6 місяців тому +1

      Yep. Very happy with mine. It's awesome in the snow too. I really like the track pattern. Cab is quiet and warm.

  • @flyinPowerlines
    @flyinPowerlines Місяць тому

    Love my John Deeres. Would not own another.!!!

    • @WesternEquipment
      @WesternEquipment  Місяць тому

      They are pretty awesome! Which one do you have?

    • @flyinPowerlines
      @flyinPowerlines Місяць тому

      @@WesternEquipment 325G, 4052R and the 35P.

  • @djveles4629
    @djveles4629 7 місяців тому +1

    Kubotas are made for the weekend Baby Hueys that want to look like men. Never seen one at big job sites, usually I see them spreading mulch at someone's rose garden.

    • @Charlie-go6eb
      @Charlie-go6eb 6 місяців тому

      Lmao, you’re a tool. I’d be surprised if you even own a basic Deere riding mower.

  • @dustinpitts2741
    @dustinpitts2741 4 місяці тому

    In the south the Deere dealers act like your bothering them to just look at a machine I will stay with Kubota their good machines and better service and treat you better

  • @MikeFree22
    @MikeFree22 3 місяці тому

    That may have been the most biased review or “comparison” I’ve ever watched. Never used a Deere…hundreds of hours on a Kubota…fantastic machine.

  • @alfredfleming3289
    @alfredfleming3289 5 місяців тому

    No one opens up to service on better than the Deere. Don’t own one but wish I did.

    • @WesternEquipment
      @WesternEquipment  5 місяців тому

      I completely agree and also hear the same from customers all the time.

  • @aroundthegroundlandscaping7107
    @aroundthegroundlandscaping7107 7 місяців тому

    For years I have owned deere went to purchase a new machine and I couldn’t even get close to the numbers that Kubota gave me I’m talking a 20000 dollars in price between the two. no machine is worth that different in cost yes it was model to model pricing

  • @cliffh8486
    @cliffh8486 6 місяців тому

    Deere is a nice but the Kubota -3 series has cleaned up and made a much better machine.

  • @Jay_Force_One
    @Jay_Force_One 6 місяців тому

    I came here in the comments for one thing and one thing only. The Idler wheels are doing the same thing. The double flange isn’t holding the track in line any more than the single. If anything, the single allows for LESS lateral movement of the track as there is lesser space for movement between the inner sprocket guide track. At the end of the day, they’re there for tension and are not going to keep the track on under load if it’s trying to come off.
    I’m buying the Kubota all day. Might be more expensive to operate (apperently), but out the door Deere is going to molest you as they do. Deere is the most over priced stuff you can buy. People buy it at that price on the sole principle that it says John Deere on the side. It’s a novelty. You can’t tell me that orange machine doesn’t look 50,000 times better. It’s fucking orange dude. That’s sick.

  • @88cruzer1
    @88cruzer1 6 місяців тому +1

    Video sponsored by Deere.

  • @Charlie-go6eb
    @Charlie-go6eb 6 місяців тому

    Came across this video. It’s comical how these sales guys attempt to compare machines. I have a 97-2. It’s a flawless machine, it does what it’s suppose to. Deere makes a great machine as well. But the bottom line is tell the msrp’s of each machine. There’s a 30k plus difference in the two. If you want to spend that, no harm, have at it. The reason there doing these video’s in the first place is Deere, Cat, ad some others are loosing lots of market share to Kubota. It is what it is. I can’t justify another %40 for my use’s, your’s may differ.

  • @BrokenSpur_Treeservice
    @BrokenSpur_Treeservice 7 місяців тому

    Glad I got a deer way better machine to bad service sucks a** in my area

  • @pjp80s
    @pjp80s 4 місяці тому

    Clearly a Deere boy doing a review….

  • @3406Accert
    @3406Accert 6 місяців тому

    Again bloatingly spewed wrong again five oh two , spewed if I'm needing to service the machine l do need to have the CAB ON THE GROUND ? What ? it's already on the ground and so is the bucket / boom assembly and bloating the wrong part of a machine here, the proper way is have a bucket on the ground to lift the cab on this type or make of machine. Go get yourself another non beef McDonald's sandwich and bloat some more.