It’s pretty interesting cause I agree with everything you’re saying about client hand off so they can take control.. what’s strange to me is that this is the same approach I take, but with Squarespace, which does everything your talking about and more with far less set up initially, completely custom designs, saved sections (components essentially) and true drag&drop customizability for the clients.. yet most people seem to have a dislike toward squarespace for some reason, or assume it’s not as customizable as other options (which isn’t true, just needs a tiny bit more know how or third party plug-ins). I’m not 💩ing on Framer or you opinion cause I completely agree with you, it’s just fascinating to me that the benefits you’re selling to you clients using framer are exactly the same as what I offer to mine using Squarespace, yet just by the name of the platform people appreciate it more 🤷♂️ I’m planning to make some switches over to Webflow & Framer in the coming months. It’ll be interesting to see how much more praise I get for providing literally the exact same service using either of these platforms 😅 People tend to follow hype I guess, so that must be what the clients are seeing/hearing and a preference based on that before they interact with a service provider. I’d love to do A/B/C testing with identical service but on distinct platforms and see which perform best just because of the platform name 🤔 (I’m not going to sink the time into that though haha.. if someone else wants to do it, please do)
I tried web flow, and felt the same as Matt. Little overwhelming. But framer was a game changer for me. Was just excited about it. The learning curve is fun and now I build websites too. Someone who never did it before, and one month of taking Ryan’s course and a few UA-cam tutorials and the community remixes and support is great, and I am a website designer too!
Great to see real agencies switching to framer and it working even better! Framer is crazy simple which made it really easy for me as a designer to learn
Not to sound snarky or anything, but shouldn't Flux try and put out a Figma course first before Framer? They're suppose to be an online design school but to not have anything dedicated to Figma is kinda weird.
I have some questions to you. 1.Is it essential to learn figma before framer? 2.Is it essential to learn HTML CSS before framer? 3.What is the prerequisite for learning framer? 4.Is learning figma helps to framer? Please answer these questions I am new to this field.
The site this guy built (whereby) is an absolute mess from a markup perspective. You have like 18 tags nested where you could just have a simple image. Also, who chose that typography? A blind person?
From a (real (coding)) developers point of view, the markup is a nightmare, yeah. I also dislike the infinite nesting and over-complexities that these sort of systems implement, whilst looking really minimal on the 'no code' development side. But 18 divs overall don't matter to my understanding. If they have no semantic meaning, no tab-index, etc, they are just ignored by a search engine, right? I don't really see performance being an issue (unless it is). I'm wondering why this would be an issue, am I missing something? I don't use low/no-code tools, I code everything up in SvelteKit (atm). So I'm legitimately wondering.
The HTML does affect technical SEO because if you have two pages with the same value in content, you code will be one of the tie-breakers. More unnecessary divs influence crawl time as it takes just a bit longer to find the elements. For a small page doesn't matter as much, but for a company with thousands of pages, those extra milliseconds will pile up a deplete the crawl budget
Great video Matt! Loving Framer and have just finished my first build after moving from Webflow. Would be great to see a video on how you build your components.
Completely Agreed. I took Ryan's Course and already got to work on my first two website projects. As a complete novice, what i delivered was not something that was ever possible before. Totally a game changer.
I'd like to ask you a few questions about the course if you don't mind. Is the course worth it and beginner-friendly? Can I really learn everything I need to know through this course? Does Ryan teach the whole process of finding clients, selling websites, and effectively communicating with them? Also, could you provide some insights on the costs involved? I have no idea how to handle that aspect or how to determine what a client should pay monthly, especially when it comes to choosing the pricing options in Framer. Additionally, I would like to know if the course is truly worth the money. What did you like the most about it, and were there any aspects that you didn't particularly enjoy? I would appreciate your insights on how the course was for you, as I don't know Ryan, but I have researched and his videos seem cool and helpful.
I'm going to give Framer a serious look. Those CMS features are powerful enough for 90% of businesses wanting to self-edit and make small design changes. I do believe Webflow is still king of the no-code once you master it. Being able to export the code decouples you from their ecosystem too - think cheap static hosting.
It’s pretty interesting cause I agree with everything you’re saying about client hand off so they can take control.. what’s strange to me is that this is the same approach I take, but with Squarespace, which does everything your talking about and more with far less set up initially, completely custom designs, saved sections (components essentially) and true drag&drop customizability for the clients.. yet most people seem to have a dislike toward squarespace for some reason, or assume it’s not as customizable as other options (which isn’t true, just needs a tiny bit more know how or third party plug-ins).
I’m not 💩ing on Framer or you opinion cause I completely agree with you, it’s just fascinating to me that the benefits you’re selling to you clients using framer are exactly the same as what I offer to mine using Squarespace, yet just by the name of the platform people appreciate it more 🤷♂️
I’m planning to make some switches over to Webflow & Framer in the coming months. It’ll be interesting to see how much more praise I get for providing literally the exact same service using either of these platforms 😅
People tend to follow hype I guess, so that must be what the clients are seeing/hearing and a preference based on that before they interact with a service provider.
I’d love to do A/B/C testing with identical service but on distinct platforms and see which perform best just because of the platform name 🤔 (I’m not going to sink the time into that though haha.. if someone else wants to do it, please do)
can you show us how you set those variables or parameters for the clients?
Framer, Webflow, Framer, Webflow…😵💫🤷♂️
thats exactly how i feel too
I tried web flow, and felt the same as Matt. Little overwhelming. But framer was a game changer for me. Was just excited about it. The learning curve is fun and now I build websites too. Someone who never did it before, and one month of taking Ryan’s course and a few UA-cam tutorials and the community remixes and support is great, and I am a website designer too!
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Great to see real agencies switching to framer and it working even better! Framer is crazy simple which made it really easy for me as a designer to learn
How does a glaring typo in the thumbnail not get noticed before uploading?
Founder is probably dyslectic 🤷♂️
i dont think u should fix the thumbnail
Agreed. More Clinets for all!
You're a true fan 💜
Hi just wanna ask how you export designs to clients in framer?
great video. I am curious of the price range charged for this website to build on Framer even if you don’t mention the exact figure.
do you have any idea about the price range ? if yes the please tell
I hadn't realised it was that popular now with corporate clients
The way you handle components is seriously impressive, did you plan and design first in Figma and translate to Framer? or is it Framer only?
Thank you! This was Framer only:)
That's really awesome@@mattjumper
Clinets
Very helpful and the Whereby site is impressive. How did you implement the "Load More" functionality in their blog?
Where is your affiliate link? I tried looking for it but can't find it
After designing a website on Framer do you host the website with framer or with another party?
On framer itself
how to fulfill a website to a client on framer , like how did you fulfill everything like design , seo , etc
How about the backend aspect
Please let the thumbnail like that lmao
Great video. Although I was distracted by the horrifying demon face staring at me through the mesh in your chair (to the left of your head) 😅
but can you export design from framer to react ? so i could import some of theese into existing project. Or move project to different hosting.
Don’t think so. Also I think Framer doesn’t use vanilla React, rather it uses Next.js for SSR
what if i want to host multiple websites? Do I pay $15 for each one?
Yea
Would your framer course teach me the things this guy is talking about in regards how he ships a site to his client?
the stock footage though 🥲
love this!
Not to sound snarky or anything, but shouldn't Flux try and put out a Figma course first before Framer? They're suppose to be an online design school but to not have anything dedicated to Figma is kinda weird.
You're 100% correct! Figma course is in the making as we speak!
What is a clinet?
It's like a client but it pays more!
Framer feels like FIgma and Notion's love child.
Those high-paying clients needs to pay high fees at Framer. Perfect fit!
Clinet Magnet
wow i didn’t know framer is so sotisficated
design follows spelling just as form follows function
thanks! fixed
When you say "high paying clients", are enterprises moving to Framer too?
Is this the second thumbnail error? Lol it’s getting views 😅
Clinets!
so you hand the site to the client just like that? like a figma file? that's dangerous
Why?
I have some questions to you.
1.Is it essential to learn figma before framer?
2.Is it essential to learn HTML CSS before framer?
3.What is the prerequisite for learning framer?
4.Is learning figma helps to framer?
Please answer these questions
I am new to this field.
Read the comments and fix the thumbnail
ok ok I will!
Wishful thinking
fix the thumbnail
It’s too late they need to own the mistake lmao
@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa what? Back in the day you could change it
@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa no, changing the thumbnail after posting is a standard feature that still exists. There's 0 reason to remove it anyways
@@filetmignon9978I don’t mean they can’t change ir, I just think they shouldn’t.
Why not?
The site this guy built (whereby) is an absolute mess from a markup perspective. You have like 18 tags nested where you could just have a simple image.
Also, who chose that typography? A blind person?
The site looks good wdym 😂😂
@@angelc4 The typography is my perspective but regardless, the HTML is an absolute nightmare.
@@ducksquidbat8315 html doesn’t matter
From a (real (coding)) developers point of view, the markup is a nightmare, yeah. I also dislike the infinite nesting and over-complexities that these sort of systems implement, whilst looking really minimal on the 'no code' development side.
But 18 divs overall don't matter to my understanding. If they have no semantic meaning, no tab-index, etc, they are just ignored by a search engine, right? I don't really see performance being an issue (unless it is).
I'm wondering why this would be an issue, am I missing something? I don't use low/no-code tools, I code everything up in SvelteKit (atm). So I'm legitimately wondering.
The HTML does affect technical SEO because if you have two pages with the same value in content, you code will be one of the tie-breakers.
More unnecessary divs influence crawl time as it takes just a bit longer to find the elements. For a small page doesn't matter as much, but for a company with thousands of pages, those extra milliseconds will pile up a deplete the crawl budget
Hmmm, sorry, but not a good introduction to using Framer.
How does framer compare to 10web?
That is really awesome. I've been thinking about starting my own business doing webdesign and you've sold me on using Figma + Framer to do it.
What are you using figma for? Why not build directly in framer?
How do u guys build gated content with framer
Would also like to know.. 0-0
Framer go faster and faster, hoping the course would be release soon !
Great video Matt! Loving Framer and have just finished my first build after moving from Webflow. Would be great to see a video on how you build your components.
Completely Agreed. I took Ryan's Course and already got to work on my first two website projects. As a complete novice, what i delivered was not something that was ever possible before. Totally a game changer.
I'd like to ask you a few questions about the course if you don't mind. Is the course worth it and beginner-friendly? Can I really learn everything I need to know through this course? Does Ryan teach the whole process of finding clients, selling websites, and effectively communicating with them? Also, could you provide some insights on the costs involved? I have no idea how to handle that aspect or how to determine what a client should pay monthly, especially when it comes to choosing the pricing options in Framer.
Additionally, I would like to know if the course is truly worth the money. What did you like the most about it, and were there any aspects that you didn't particularly enjoy? I would appreciate your insights on how the course was for you, as I don't know Ryan, but I have researched and his videos seem cool and helpful.
Link to course bro?
@@whiteswordwarrior9995 I posted it but the channel is deleting my comment every time…
@@ahbegnueg what website is it on or whats the name? can find it
ryan hayward?
I'm going to give Framer a serious look. Those CMS features are powerful enough for 90% of businesses wanting to self-edit and make small design changes. I do believe Webflow is still king of the no-code once you master it. Being able to export the code decouples you from their ecosystem too - think cheap static hosting.
Don’t understand first part of this video as anyone in hosue could update the content of a solid WordPress site build.
Farmers clinets voming form? :) Doog Idevo, though.