Affirmative action in college admissions
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Two students try to navigate a world without race-based college admissions.
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After 5 years working in a profession, no one care where you went to school.
Depends on the field. And I definitely see job postings that specify Ivy degree is required. I’ve this for receptionists and admin assistants.
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5toworked in hr for years and have never seen this. What positions are these? Examples please.
that is after 5 years, but the first year matter the most. They do care about where you go to school.
You are delusional. See the income and long term success of people from these schools.
@@Blackflyer1 HR is a joke, of course they don't care where you went to college. Ivy league matters if you want to be a professor, a researcher, a banker, executive, or entrepreneur.
Admission should be based on merits and academic standing.
Don’t forget good character! 👍
It is, generally. But even with stellar academics and merit colleges can only take so much. They don’t have infinite space. There are other factors to consider.
Do you even understand what you're saying? There have to be other areas of discrimination. Many will "equally" qualify. What then? Hmm??
@@nigelcarrenWe can clearly see the current issues of peoples true faces coming out recently with ongoing events…
Affirmative Action was never a good thing. It degraded every aspect of American culture and society.
Too much focus and false belief that professional success depends on graduating from the Ivy Leagues. This needs to change. It is unhealthy for the high schoolers.
Like all businesses the college system has a life span and according to the professionals the college system will collapse in our lifetime.
You say this but many top businesses will not even consider interviewing people that went to 'non-target' schools. There are so many applicants and so many college student now that businesses don't have to entertain applications outside of the top few. With how expensive life has become. you wont be able to afford to live if you don't get a good job after college these days - which is heavily dependent on the school you went to.
@@uc7953 Tell that to Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Gates, Jobs, Kalanick, and a host of other BILLIONAIRS that never graduated from college.
but it's true... Ivy League schools even if you graduated with a 2.5 GPA you would always be preferred. I got a GPA of 3.5 from a regular university in accounting. I applied to many jobs couldn't get in. One job hired a man from Harvard with a 2.5 gpa. So, there's truth to it. If you go to these ivy league schools you will get a job regardless. Even though my business school uses case studies created by Harvard business school professors. I had to actually pay Harvard to buy case studies for my finance class. I had to create an account at their business school store and buy them. We had to analyses them . The education I had is the same as of the business school of Harvard because it has the same accreditation and the books and case studies used were written by Harvard professors. Yet, having the name Harvard on your resume to someone means you're the smartest person in the world.
@@uc7953nonsense!
now AA grads demand legacy for their AA kids. the hypocrisy
Legacy should have been banned/outlawed from the start, never should have been allowed to begin with
So true, vice president Al Gores kids all got to attend Harvard and one of them barely made it out of high school
I think legacy should actually be considered but only to a certain point
These schools are only considered elite due to legacy and old money families.
A counter program to balance legacy affirmative action over the last 300 years
@@metallica2500crazy
The admissions board should not see name or race on an application only a id number
That’s what the did GCSE and A levels in the UK. It worked . It was a good way for the bias and racists exam board !
that sounds like a plan!!
GREAT IDEA 😊😊😊😊😊😊
would be too good
I agree that way the group who got the most out of affirmative action (whi…fee emails) wouldn’t get in to so many positions! 😂
There are a host of students in these schools that academically should not be there, but they are legacy admissions.
Or athletic scholarship holders.
@@robertewalt7789 The athletes are employees there to make money for the school. They are athlete-students first not student-athletes. That contract they sign for 4 years or more says they can be let go if they are deemed by the coaching staff to not have lived up to the teams standards. Lesser players have been let go for reasons having nothing to do with academics and that scholarship given to someone else. Also it's an ATHLETIC scholarship not an academic one. Again, sports at those schools is a business separate of the schools other business. So the alumni won't touch sports and that guy Blum new not to go anywhere near it. Too many big people are involved in college sports.
What percent are legacy admissions?
@@talon310calif So are they saying without any legacy admissions, the guy in this video would have had an easier time? No, he still would have been blocked or waitlisted because of his race.
@robertparsons313 I'm actually not suggesting anything. The original comment talked about legacy admissions. How big of a problem are legacy admissions? Also as a follow up, how much of a break do legacy applicants get?
Imagine applying to an Ivy League school where everybody has a great GPA and participates in extracurricular activities. How can you truly separate yourself from the rest? Its almost like hitting the lottery
They can give admissions some suckysucky.
And that is where reality hits. These top achieving kids are at the top 1% of kids in their school, maybe even in their school district - but when they apply to the Ivy’s, it’s top achievers from all over the world so they go from being a big fish to a small one. They don’t know they are one of tens of thousands of star pupils.
Never hire a Harvard graduate - good to know
Especially if they were a DEI hire.
@verity4427 In what fantasy world do you live?
@@TheAnswerWillleaveyou sounds morw real than urs
@@verity4427So never hire whi…fee emails? Because that’s who makes up most of DEI hires and affirmative action recipients! Oops! 😂
Biggest click in the United States. Harvard is hired by Harvard and unscrupulous business organizations
It would be nice if we didn’t talk about ethnicity at all in college applications. You should be judged as an individual.
No way the far-left anti-white, anti-Asian faculty will go for that.
What you say sounds nice in a vacuum. But, the world isn't a place where everyone gets an equal shake in life. Where you are born in life (example zipcode/state/country) greatly dictate what opportunities and benefits you have. So, in a totally fair world (which doesn't exist), then yes, what you say would be fair and preferred. In the real world however, racism, sexism, ageism, ableism, and other factors determine whether one gets access to things or not. So, your statement fails to reflect the realities of the world.
@@99niknihtNope it's just codewords for white replacement
@99nikniht Yeah if you aren't a black lesbian but are a white student you wouldn't get the ok to be at that school, you should be judged as an individual.
@@99nikniht You are absolutely correct. Otherwise a lot of people wouldn't get into school because they're not intelligent enough. At some point we need to consider people's skin color because statistically there is undeniable correlation between that and IQ.
Now they are going to understand why affirmative action was in place.
Probably not for another 10 years before it finally sinks in.
To be racist towards white folks. That's all.
This
I'm glad they removed affirmative action. Now they get to see. They did it to themselves
"Corporations and media outlets may have misled them into believing that affirmative action is the root cause of the issue." Which is untrue
Hold Your Own Nuts, dude. It was Asian People who wanted AA gone.
Be careful what you wish for…you know the rest, Smart guy.
Double Dipping siding with the Edward Blum's of the world then saying your a minority that has been discriminated against.
For any kid out there who is worried, let me share with you , I came from Haiti , no English, no money , homeless for a while … I did not care and that is why I became a nurse and got a bachelor in science and a masters in clinical research.
Just stay focused and don’t worry , you will get there .
❤❤❤❤ thank you for sharing.
What gets me is that the issue for the people against AA this time weren't worried about getting into college. It was about getting specifically into IVY LEAGUE colleges.
I have a friend who immigrated from Montserrat as a child. She is black. She had excellent grades, great extra-curriculars, everything an Ivy League university could ask for. She didn't get into NYU. Did that bother her? No. She got into other colleges and so she picked one.
She found a great job with a nice salary and now she's living her best life.
Ivy league is not the end all be all.
@@melodramatic7904that was my big thing too. ALL of this was specifically for Ivy ONLY nine of this was for any other school besides the Ivy schools. Like you said you can still make a life for yourself without going to an Ivy it’s really good state schools out there as well, and if your ambitious enough a good student and active in life person can make it work anywhere. I know ppl who choose state schools over Ivy and they still got their dream job.
Yes but coming as an immigrant with nothing apparently gives you far more privilege than multigenerational Afro American Latinas. You need to pump up your intersectionality numbers.
@@JessicaNaranjo4094 it is my pleasure.
Imagine a country giving away resources and not taking care of the people who already existed in your country.
ABC News OF COURSE LEFT OUT THAT WHITE STUDENTS ARE ALSO HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. All White people reading this should know that FACT! But the RACIST ABC news won't tell you that. White students needed to score roughly 300 points higher on the SAT's than black and Latino students for admission.
I don't need to imagine that. I see it here in the United States. Our government spending Billions on illegals while our citizens are in need. No imagination required.
Tf are you actually saying
Are you saying we need free college education
Hussien Obama/Biden's USA
@@dafish259 Wasn't clear, but it's possible they're saying that slots shouldn't go to American applicants who have near perfect scores & extra-curriculars but who are Asian.
My friend is black and attended a school with a high poverty rate. He was a valedictorian, he was a merit scholar, he was an allstate musician, a band captain, had dual enrollment, mentorship and volunteer experience. He was rejected by every ivy league he applied to. Same for the valedictorian the year before. This was before affirmative action was overturned.
He can sue if he wants too. Also it depends on his school that he attended in highschool. I like in the suburbs of Detroit. My final 2 years I got kicked out of math because we at the time only were required to take math for 2 years. We got kicked out because Detroit schools got an F and many black people that live there ... at the time obama and our state allowed people to get any school within the county. The black people in detroit either moved or had family in the suburb that lived in apartments. These kids got bussed from detroit and most were flunking math. They kicked people like me out of math so that these kids can attend and still be able to graduate highschool. One kid I talked to him he told me in Detroit if you just attended school you got an A. Also you had to share books and all exams were open book. I told him why come here. I said that sounds like a good deal. You can easily get a 4,0 gpa and get into college. He said his untle told his mom and him that you would be stupid to do this. They used the uncles address for residence purposes and the kid wen to our school. He told me that yes He could easily attend college but you won't have the skills to succeed in college. This kid had a 4.0 GPA from his school. In our school he got a 3.1 and went to college. It was an eye opener where he told me that schools that are struggling or in bad areas normally hand out grades. A 4.0 GPA isn't the same if you get handed it compared to a school that makes it hard to get a 4.0 GPA. It's what you learn from the experience that matters. I am just saying the school you go to if it's a struggling school you might get the grades to get into college but that's why they use the ACT and SAT as another factor to look at. So, he can get the grades but in ivy league schools they do look at ACT and SAT scores. If he wanted too he can easily sue and get the NAACP to look into it. They're nothing but lawyers for African Americans to go after such organizations for discrimination.
fuckin ok
If you say so....only way you're not lying is if he's a convicted felon.
And? His list might not have been enough. I had a similar resume if not better and I never even got into Berkeley because they were capped for white people and had to fill with nom whites.
@devinwynn1299 I wish it wasn't true.
“Have you seen an Asian kid around here?- Only when I open my eyes.”
…Scene from Harold and Kumar at Princeton U.
its Harvard's loss.
I think they will be fine. They're only the richest school in the world.
They don't lose anything. They always have full students attending. Everyone around the world wants to go to this university. They also made the standards for all Universities for their programs if they want international recognition.
There are many talent all over the world. Having good grade does not meant he will be great in his achievement moving forward, do not forget nothing is guranteed in this world, including your IQ.
@@bebdaumon3948 Indeed Harvard's _gained_ the likes of Claudine G.
Who's Harvard?
Race should not be a requirement. What the hell is wrong with people. The smartest people should go to the smartest schools period. Advance the human race not got backwards. 🤦🏼♂️
Affirmation Action was due to people being excluded due to race and gender. White women have benefited tremendously. This is American, race will ALWAYS be an issue, it's in our Constitution.
Race was never a requirement. Seems like you are missing the point entirely.
What do you mean requirement??
@@BluePrada as in if you don’t have good enough marks to get in you are “required” to be black.
when applying to these colleges through common app, you are not required to tell admissions your race. you can specifically select a box that says “do not share my race”. that’s what i did. also, there are many, many, MANY smart students who are qualified to attend these elite colleges, but they obviously don’t have room for all of them. how do you differentiate applicants from each other? you look at legacy, their extracurriculars, essays, etc. i really think the entire admissions and college system needs to be abolished and worked from the ground up in the u.s. because tell me why it costs a FRACTION of what american universities demand in europe.
People focused on getting rid of affirmative action and they forgot about the legacy/rich students who are dumb but still get in.
Coloreds don't deserve to go to college. They're too stupid.
They didn't forget they intentionally didn't want to touch them. To many white folk current and future would be affected. Some need that help to get in, that advantage over others for their grades won't make the cut.
@@IAMHERE486 coloreds are too dumb to get in. Gotta lower the bar to help the "ignant"
@@thewanderer6388 how does that work when Harvard underrepresents the current white student population around 40% adjusted for geographic factors?
They also get in due to paying others to take the SATs/ACTs for them and/or forged achievements/activities/etc to get them in.
Thats how Lori Laughlin, Felicity Huffman , and several CEOS wound up on trial.
The "quota" was on Asians, keeping their numbers at a limit. It had nothing to do with black people, that was an excuse, but they'll learn.
They will learn. They. Will. Learn
I don't feel for they lay wit the beast the consequences are yours to reap
Thomas Sowell once observed that “When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.” The best way to cure racial discrimination is to stop discriminating based on race.
And the Supreme Court did just that regarding college admissions?
This. The blacks in the video acting like they're oppressed when we started focusing on equal opportunity and not equal outcome.
@@drlove994 Ay it only took 60 years. And now those who received preferential treatment will perceive fairness as discrimination.
@@TerryHausenn Don’t matter AA for college admissions doesn’t exist anymore so Asians shouldn’t complain anymore! Can blame the blacks anymore for not getting into Harvard.
Tom Sowell is a terrible source of information. He never critiques white folks for their crimes historically against blk ppl.
The truth is if you want to get into Ivy League schools, doesn’t matter what race or SAT score is, it’s all about how deep your pockets is to make super generous donation to the schools.
precisely, deep pockets and whether you come from old money or nouveau rich.
on a separate note . y'all are a gorgeous couple . God bless.
All high schoolers who are serious about college have to be overachievers now and they all that a +4.0 GPA because they take all honors classes and a billion extracurricular activities. How do colleges determine who gets in if everyone applying has insane credentials?
Usually non-academic factors will weigh heavily in application acceptance. Eagle scout, class president, etc... Also race :) Very fun system.
@@TerryHausenn It's such a miserable life to spend all of your time doing these things to get into university.
@@TerryHausenn So it's not just about grades but other factors.
No, they don't. They just have to pick differently.
they choose those who they find 'interesting'
So even with affirmative action banned, he STILL couldn’t get in? Lmaooo now who will you blame?
Exactly! Didn't Asian Americans support the removal of Affirmative Action?
THIS! This right here. Who will he blame NOW?!
EXACTLY
If Affirmative action is banned why would he blame anyone?? Then he would consider it as fair assessment rather unfair in this case none the less the dim witted selected through this process will nothing progressive as we are seeing
It’s still happening they just got more creative in their racist practices of affirmative action.
Apple CEO is from Duke, sky is the limit for this guy regardless of where he went!
Ivy League Plus…but NOT Ivy League.
If you have the qualities of a ceo you’ll succeed if you put your mind to it don’t know why college matters Harvard offers their classes online for free if you really wanted to you can get Harvard level education and a bachelors from somewhere else for lower the cost without aid, find an accredited teacher or professor online and you get a good education from UA-cam lol the only thing I’d say is worth an Ivy League is the connections and prestige but if you have work certifications and a bit of persuasion the gap between the two is not that different, a simple connection and that’s all u need to get the job.
@@hught6885 anymore the idea of that places like Harvard are elite is nonsense.
Going to Ivy League schools is irrelevant
@@hught6885 I can tell by this comment that you dont know anything about academia. You do know that Stanford, MIT, Duke, Uchicago and Caltech are all non ivy leagye right? The Ivy league is an athletic conference.
7:15 What does she mean when she says "students of color?" Does she mean Asians are colorless? She basically has implicit bias that "students of color" = "black and Hispanics"
What color are Asians? And don't go saying yellow 🟡
White is a color soooo yea. Legacy should be abolished though
Yea, she means black people. Do you live under a rock? What do you think of when they say students of color? You know damn well the expression refers to blacks, otherwise you wouldn't even comment. Literally water fountains, bathrooms, and restaurants would say "no coloreds" during segregated times.
Exactly! Filipinos are “brown” and so are South Asians. It should be meritocracy not pity admissions.
There's a new thing now where asian people are no longer seen as poc, but white, but white people definitely don't see asians as white..and asian people don't have white privilege, so limbo.
This is America, where people literally justify discrimination and saying it’s to prevent discrimination.
Affirmative action was struck down, so stop complaining there might be other reasons why you didn’t get in to Ivy league
If you really believe it while Asians have to get higher scores to have a chance, so be it.
take home message: nothing has changed.
I know thank goodness
thanks for that I couldn't figure the message out with all the gaslighting and subterfuge
Oh, so you mean......black folks are actually getting in because of how smart they are and the work they put in...... and not because of their skin color??? Omg, what a surprise 😮
@@Kirasfox Harvard admissions literally adds points to applications based on race. Native American and Black receive the highest additional points.
@@TerryHausenn it literally doesn't
😂😂😂They used the asians to fight againgst Affirmative Action, now the asians find out they still cant get their wish. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Affirmative Action objectively hurt Asians the most. This is a FACT.
The Asians benefited from affirmative action in larger numbers than any group
@@tahariobi391 bc they still practice affirmative action. The education secretary vowed to keep schools diverse, and they do that by emphasizing essays and recommending you write about your diversity. Sorry that your race is poor and that you hate asians for being better.
It's poetic at this point.😂😂😂
As a mid 40s yr old person, I wish I could go back in time and tell my 18 yr old self that where you go to college doesn't matter all that much. If you have the perseverance to succeed, you will succeed no matter what. I have worked in a few fortune 100 companies and the one consistent thing about sr leaders (VPs and above) is that their backgrounds and schooling are diverse. Many are from colleges I've never heard of.
💯💯
yes, but having a big name on your resume helps... no matter what anyone says, it still helps.
Resume. Haha. Ill never have to write one again. #entrepreneurship @abdosimon
@@Joe-ti7qd you kidding? Having a business is a damn lifestyle haha (and what a life too, if you are suited to it). Also you can lose all your money.
Don’t be salty because your business is better than your resume lol (I say this with banter, no offense). Don’t forget - you own a business which has employees / resumes. More respect for the employee lol
1,000 percent correct. I never heard someone say, I would have been a vice president, if I would have gone to Harvard. Talented and motivated individuals will succeed in life. Your university, gender, race, religion etc will not hold you back if you are determined to succeed. May be an obstacle, but it’s one that you can overcome.
I’m glad I grew up in Sweden as a black person. Here, only your grades matter. If your grades are good enough you’ll get in. They don’t care about where you’re from they only look at your academic record that’s it.
That’s not how or why race was considered in the first place. Why don’t you learn about the history of race based exclusion in the U.S. before saying Sweden somehow got it right.
Well Sweden sounds like a nice place in general. Anyone would be lucky to live there unless there's something I'm unaware of.
That means it's easier for you to get into college here. Blacks are supposed to have a certain percentage admitted regardless of grades in highschool and are supposed to get additional help like free tutoring etc. The reason for this was because in the past the U.S.A discriminated against blacks. They had public schools for whites only where they got most of the public funds. While black school had small budgets where they couldn't teach student's properly. This is where they ended segregation and made every school open to anyone. However, blacks would still be stuck at horrible schools. So, this is where those schools got more funding and hired more qualified teachers. Eventually now they allow students to go to any school they want within the county. So, blacks now can pick what school they want to attend and normally some pick schools that had a good grade rating in graduating rates and standard tests scores. It's been like this for many years. This was to allow blacks to get equal treatment towards education. They then required colleges to admit black students even if they have a GPA of 1.9 or lower. They also required them to give free tutoring for them. The colleges did this and eventually make it for everyone but it's not actually free they say it's free but it comes out of the tuition. So, we had this system for so many years. That now we are taking affirmative action out of colleges and that means you get into college based on your academic performance in highschool. It's been there long enough that they gave a fair chance for blacks to catch up. Now, since blacks been in white schools for many years. it's now fair to require them to meet the same standards of everyone.
We got it right. I don’t want special treatment or “positive discrimination” just because I happen to be black. I want to get admitted because of my academic track record, not because I tick a box that says what kind of race I am. That’s real equality.
I am well aware of the history, what I mean is that affirmative action has no relevance today. It’s another form of race based exclusion. Instead of viewing every person the same way, you single out people based on their race to fill seats that they haven’t qualified for. That’s unfair, unethical and insulting.
Any student with the qualities of David in this video should have been admitted to any school of his choosing. What academic institution doesn''t want students like him? This is a ridiculous system. (Good for Duke University.)
not defending the college system, but ivy leagues only have a select number of spots and hundreds of thousands of applications. no matter how qualified you may be, you could still get rejected because they simply don’t have space for you. there’s so many factors you can’t control.
@@MaryLab2930 And because "too many" Asians submit stellar grades and achievement, the schools cap the number of Asians? That means Asians are forced to compete against other Asians, not in a fair competition with the entire pool of applicants.
No the problem is there are thousands around the world just like him!
@robertparsons313 💀....there's a plethora of students like him, and if they see someone better, then 🤷🏾♀️
@@robertparsons313 huh? they can only let in 1.5k students among the 150k that apply. there are thousands of other kids like him, but they can’t let them all in. did you not see in the video he got waitlisted at a few colleges? that means you are absolutely qualified to attend the university, but they just don’t have space for you.
From someone who spent time at Harvard in graduate school, this is really hard to watch. Harvard is really not the be-all end-all of your life, and we’re lying to kids and stressing them out when society implies otherwise. Most of the undergrads at Harvard aren’t really that much different than college students at other places. The difference is the money and privilege their parents tend to have.
Institutions know what to do, they will enroll more students of alumni and wealthy students. Those schools were designed for the rich and now it will go back to the rich.
this make a lot more sense than them being racist. Majority of people in universities are not American anyways. I find it cute how media can just sway masses without ever anyone stepping inside a university and see how fucking diverse the place is.
I’m black and this infuriates me. There are things in life that are not guaranteed, that’s life. No school should be looking at a person’s skin color and making a decision. Affirmative action pounds a person’s dignity. There are tons schools. Seek God above all else.
You are a Black person who cares about what others think about you in college? If so, then you are a fool. Mediocre white students get in and don't feel inferior, mediocre Asians have gotten in and didn't feel inferior, so why do you if you know you can do the work. You can't be from the US for someone will judge your intelligence no matter what. Me personally, I wouldn't care what anyone thought on how I got in as long as I got in. I would let their curiosity be their problem not mine. What are you going to do, read your resume to everyone who challenges your intelligence to prove to them that you belong?
Has been overturned already why are people still complaining?
That’s over with can’t blame that shyt no more
He is naive, it was 100% a racial rejection for him. Tragic that America has become racist under the belief it makes it less racist.
He didn't lose his seat at Harvard due to some "unqualified black or Hispanic kid"; he lost his seat to another Asian student. Why don't people get that it's Asian applicants themselves who have made it tougher, in a sense bottlenecking for other Asians to get into Harvard? Asians make up about 7% of the US population, but at Harvard, they comprise 19% of the population. Compare that to Blacks at Harvard, just 6%, while the US percentage of Blacks is 14%. Almost triple the number of Asian applicants apply to Harvard compared to Black applicants. Thus, if you're Asian, the difficulty in getting in isn't showing that you're a better applicant than, say, Kesha from New York, but rather proving you're distinct/unique from the hundreds and hundreds of other Asian applicants who also happen to be of Chinese descent, etc. And it's not even a racial issue. If it were Black Americans who were really obsessed with Harvard, then over time this positive feedback (where more and more Blacks apply, thus the standard/threshold for Blacks keeps getting higher, again a bottleneck/filter for the absolute best of the bunch) strengthens. Then you'll see stories like this of how Blacks are discriminated against because of their race...again, they are not. It's just that other Blacks have made it tougher for the average great Black applicant to get in over, say, the average White or Asian applicant. I don't know why people don't get this. Even during the time of Affirmative Action, it literally wasn't racially motivated that it was tougher for Asians to get in; it was a product of their own intra-competition. Harvard, just like your workplace or local park, surely wants people of all races represented, right? Unfortunately, the appeal for Harvard, commensurate to the induced heightened intra-competition within certain races, gives the false impression of racial discrimination. If you still think it's racially motivated and for whatever reason Harvard seems to love "unqualified Blacks" over very well-qualified Asian applicants, right? Then explain why MIT, another top-notch elite university which is on par with Harvard for its ultra-competitiveness and has NEVER practiced Affirmative Action, and just recently its Class of 2027 is 15% Black, which is even greater than the US Black population which again stands at 14%. People need to start thinking critically about these things and stop defaulting to the most simplistic and comforting conclusions.
Brother, even with affirmative action Asians were mostly rejected in Harvard.
White people who went to schools in the suburbs are not required to take the basic standards test to pass high school. Yet, so many racists run their mouth about the system. They want to protect their white privilege. I use to think why there isn't a "white" scholarship, etc. if there's one for minorities. Well, life experiences have shown me that they don't need one because the color of their skin provides them with white privilege in life. Employers would pick a white person with no experience and education over a minorities with education and no experience or a minorities with no education and experience every day of the week.
And I have even seen a few times where they picked a white person with no education and experience over a minority with both education and experience. white privilege exists. white privilege is racism. If someone has ever flexed their white privilege, they ARE racist.
Yea and if that true then the person who most likely took his place was a whi…fee email! You know, the ones who got the most out of AA? You all forget to tell that part! 😂
Basically, what I received from this story;
1. Affirmative action is going to 2nd generation immigrants.
2. Legacy students will continue to get 1st dibs when it comes to admission to universities.
3. Affirmative Action which was suppose to help people of color who were oppressed by systematic racism of jim crow ect will continue to take a back seat when it comes to admissions into universities.
Ironically white women still get affirmative action. Kinda hilarious when you think about it.
No legacy students are students who’s parents or/and grandparents went to a particular school
@omi_god Um, no. A legacy student is a student who was accepted due to their parents’ attending the school.
@omi_god
Based on my understanding, legacy system is like the nepotism system. Your father is an officer, and the son or daughter's application is quickly processed so they get the police position. Why do you have 4-5 generations of families who are police officers ? The system. Again, based on my understanding, the legacy system is when your father/mother graduates from a major university, or is a major contributer to the institution and your child easily gets approved or accepted to the same school due to preferential treatment. Hence, 4-5 generations benefit from educational opportunities. Why? The system.
Ok, so my grammar may be wrong. Nevertheless, my points are valid.
"Affirmative Action which was suppose to help people of color who were oppressed by systematic racism of jim crow ect will continue to take a back seat when it comes to admissions into universities"
If you are going to use this standard, then you can also make the argument that immigrants were also oppressed by systematic discrimination. Then it becomes a battle of words about who suffered more. This leads to nowhere except more hurt feelings, jealousy, and hatred for each other.
The news doing propaganda for over priced degrees that don't promise you a successful career anymore.
These are money traps and the promotion of them needs to stop.
Don’t go where you aren’t wanted. In 20 years, having a degree from an Ivy League school will be viewed as an indication that you were a recipient of special treatment and probably not that smart. I already feel that way
Duke is a great school with tons of programs and opportunities !! Congratulations, young man. Doors close and doors open. Sometimes it’s for the best and you will enjoy the Duke faculty, campus, and students much more❤
And if he does well at Duke for his undergrad, Harvard might take notice in bring them right in when it comes to his masters or PhD
Duke has had its fair share of controversy over the years.
@@victoriawalsh3243 Some of them are fake, like the Duke Lacross situation.
David is one of the brightest and hardest working people I know. He will have a great time at Duke!
The real issue is, the ivies did not do away with legacy admission. Why is the media not discussing this?
Only Blacks are to Blame for everything you should understand by now.
Still blaming black people because you or others didnt get into an institution that you think you are entitled too. Precious.
You didn't get in because of legacy.
Asians wouldn’t even be allowed to mop the floors if they had the gpa of most black enrollees.
Black people are most likely to be accepted into Ivy League school even with low GPA. Do some research
It was estimated that with the removal of Afirmative action policies in these colleges, Asians would get a 1% to 2% boost in enrollment. Not a fan of Affirmative action policies myself, but I think it was a strategic mistake.
Someone who actually read the fine print and didn't get caught up in the sterotypes and misinformation. Im black and I had a ambivalent relationship to AA. I don't think it really helped the people it was designed to. But many people thought the fall of AA would have them getting into their desired school by taking away the black and hispanic AA "advantage". Instead it made getting into the Ivies harder because now you have students who never thought they had a chance applying.
Are they still complaining about it?? I thought it was banned
Yes 😂
who's "they" 🧐
Their a bunch of wanna be white brats.
@@whackamole4909 anyone who happens to consider themselves a minority group at any given point in time probably
imagine being black, white, brown and just getting accepted into harvard without good grades. thats what happened after the "ban"
I am European and did an exchange year at a US college 10 years ago. I was shocked to learn about legacy admissions.
You should’ve been even more in shock by the obsession of race from those progressive and corrupt leaders and educators lol
It's mostly a far-left, anti-white racist lie.
Welcome to America!
Legacy admissions are a thing in the top 2 schools in the UK, France , Germany etc.. numerus clausus ain't the only thing that get you thru the doors. so don't go acting as if it didn't start in europe before being a normalized thing in the US.
@@PHlophe literally😭
What about the "chilling effect" on Asian Americans applying to these colleges? 5:00
Selection should be based on merit, not race.
I'm Asian and I never thought about Ivy Leagues. I am from Atlanta and hate cold weather. I don't see what is so enticing. Nobody cares where you went too, even your rank when you are a military veteran in the civilian unless maybe you are a general. Duke is a good school and he should be proud.
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As an Asian you know an Asian parents dream is to be able to brag that their child went to one of these over inflated Ivy League universities. Don’t play with our intelligence.
i don't think you understand , the overachieving asians with those degrees from top tier school could then mingle with the princelings from Asia on campus and then back home key doors would be opened for them .
I’m glad my parents didn’t place this dumb unneeded stress of trying to get in these so called “top” colleges. Plenty of schools provide a great education and if you’re actually passionate about your field and dedicated success will follow. Everyone in these types of videos are always going for Ivy League or some top school in their state just to end up in a bunch a debt with a run of the mill bachelors degree.
I agree. Studying so hard and doing all kinds of extracurriculars just for the sake of getting into an Ivy league...it is just so shallow, you should do these things due to internal motivation and not to please your snob parents so they then can brag to their Chinese friends. This story of Asian parents pushing their children for social status without any thought about their child’s real aspirations is just so common that even my brother’s wife has been traumatized by this in her school years. It feels just so robotic and snobby at the same time. Different culture I guess.
Who are you to tell someone what their dreams should be or to invalidate their aspirations? Go home, write out your goals and dreams that you want the most. I swear, somewhere someone is going to think they're stupid. If you're working and hustling for that fancy car or designer bag, I'm gonna tell you the ivy degree is more valuable.
@@devinwynn1299 blah blah blah. Get over it and go to a college that wants you. Every dream doesn’t come true. Deal with it.
@@Stu49583happening more and more in the Hispanic culture too, especially among the educated women. They’re so pressed to show everyone that they’re able to attend a prestigious school. In the meantime, Jose just got his electrical engineering degree from the small, 4 year college with minimal debt, making 90k at 24 years of age. Common sense goes out the window with these types. It’s pure ego driven stupidity.
@@Lucienne487 "my parents didn’t place this dumb unneeded stress..." well obviously, were your parents even around lol bro we can't keep lowering the net for the underperforming communities forever
I went to a CUNY and I had a great education and great job immediately…it’s ridiculous all this pressure…
Same, went to Baruch , basically for free and now i make more than most of these ivy league graduates.
@@CongoGTACongo so we're gonna take anecdotes over aggregate data? K, glad that degree is working out for you.
He didn’t get in because he attended one of the most competitive schools in the nation and typically, universities pick a limited number of students from each school. This high school is known for insane pool of kids who are ridiculously talented! In a sense, he was competing with his high school classmates who are ranking first in National and international competitions, national merits scholars, etc.
No they rather Blame the Blacks
Asian kids got to get over this Ivy League school nonsense you don't need it dude
Exactly!
agree with you but if the kid worked their ass off and is qualified. they should be able to get into the top 5 schools of their choice.
same for legacy admissions. they need to get over it too.
@@johnnyta4713 a lot of people worked their ass off and don’t get what they want. He should just learn to deal with it.
That's not the point! The point is that he can choose to go anywhere he chooses. Yet, affirmation action (which is racist) prevents that.
Someone please explain what more that Asian boy could’ve done 😂. He did everything he was supposed to.
He isn’t rich enough
He actually did the opposite of what he should have done. He lead his essay with his culture not his academics and accomplishments. When they make a selection he is competing against all the other Asians trying to get in. Culturally his story is the same as most others but his merits are what make him stand out. And as far as the money most school have scholarship money for those exceptional students without money. And one last thing he said his GPA was 3.7 something, think about all the who had 3.8 and above so he really was the best of the best. academically. Harvard might have a standard admission GPA of 3.9 - 4.0. So no, he didn't do everything he could have done.
Be a non asian
@@antiquity1978 His parents aren't alumni thus no legacy bump for him.
@@captcontrol have you ever been to schools? he got a 97.3 out of 100, which is converted to a gpa of 4.0
Oh well, if Harvard wants to stay MEDIOCRE, they can always opt to reject these amazing applicants!
You do realize that white women have benefitted the most from AA!!!?? Lol
I’m sorry to break it to you but there’re better applicants than him, probably.
Harvard isn’t mediocre because they rejected him. He’s just one fish in the pond of good applicants. Every applicant probably excels in some way. Hence he isn’t special the others are either better or wealthier 🤷🏾♂️
@@antiquity1978 yeah idiots shouting free palestine and blm
@@antiquity1978 Why don’t you show us these “better” applicants to us instead of just spouting whatever assumptions you have about this guy.
University admissions should be anonymous. Assign the application a number, no name, no address. Just accept the student based on merit alone.
I can imagine a member of the Harvard admissions board rubbing their eyes and saying, "Gawd! if I have to read one more personal statement about, 'How being the child of Asian immigrant parents inspired my life's story,' I'm going to blow my friggin' brains out."
Most Asian immigrants parents put more pressure on their children to do well in school. Parents of all race groups should do the same. Unfortunately, many don't.
No one “deserves” any spot at any school. Do your best, go where you are offered and live with the results.
of course, and no one deserves a spot over someone else just because of his or her race.
Yeah but that's not how it works
@@First-bt6rqOr because their parents had more money for tutors and test prep…
@@riku1neo How is that the same thing as skin color? You realize every race can be wealthy, right? racist
@@TerryHausennThe point is there is no perfect admission process and there never will be. Accept the school that accepts you and make the most of it.
The loss of affirmative action only helps legacy students, the rich and the well connected.
Excels in music, sports, and MATH? Where do you find applicants like David?! I am happy for him that he was admitted to a great school. He deserves the best.
He's the typical East Asian student. The only except here is that he does sports as well.
why is this still an issue? wasn’t it banned?
It still isn’t a major issue. It’s only a major issue at small colleges that openly discriminate against students of color so they can make their school as white as possible.
Because colleges are still practicing affirmative action off the books by encouraging students to write essays about "how they will contribute to diversity" or gauging students' race through their last names/alumni interviews.
@@xwrtk Give an example please of a college that wants to be all white. Also, what about black colleges?
@@Mr10usdad Appalachian Bible College in West Virginia. A few of the Bible colleges. Longwood university has a bit more students and they want to be as whitte as possible at times but can’t. I knew someone who went for a year and dropped out due to it. UA-cam censors certain words.
@@xwrtk If that that is the case, I think it is terrible. I want equal admission for everyone. Those schools need legal action taken against them.
If you didn’t earn it. It doesn’t matter or mean anything. Anything worth have is earned through hard work and sacrifice.
It is my understanding that for years Ivy League school imposed an unofficial cap for applicants from NYC's top specialized schools. The reason given was that the sheer number of qualified/over qualified students who had graduated from those schools would flood the incoming freshman classes, thus robbing the schools of much needed diversity.
For the record I went to the Bronx High School of Science which, alongside Stuyvesant, was one of the top 5 schools in the country
Affirmative Action = “I can’t make it in life on my own so I want others to be forced to assist me.”
You juts summed up legacy admissions in a nutshell.
It was overturned stop complaining
Why isn't there affirmative action in college sports?
Like hockey?
Or DEI at the major football and basketball programs.
@@thewanderer6388 no other programs? Lol...hhhhmmm i wonder why
People working everywhere in our lives including pilots and doctors are not as important as sports. We cannot fuk up sports.
Because you have to be good
It's really simple y'all. If it helps you, you like this. If you don't benefit from it, you complain about it. Just like every other thing in life.
This is true to some degree, but also worrisome. If a policy divides people by the color, conflicts and fights between race only get worse. You can already notice here. Eventually the race with less population will lose in a democratic society. In this case, it’s the super minority Asian Americans. And we can already see such outcome in these kind of stories.
Apt
Humans are selfish beings
The immature perspective, yes...
EXACTLY!!!! So the Asians can't use that excuse that a Black or Brown kid "took their spot" with AA, so now they have to see that they just aren't good enough to get in. BUT OH NO! WAIT A MINUTE! That CAN'T be it, because I'm Asian and awesome! So it has to be something else. Hmmmm...let's concoct that it's because we are TOO AWESOME! That's right, we are "being held to a higher standard than white, Black, and Hispanics". I can't. So white people - How do you feel that Asians are saying you all are mediocre and ruining their chances of getting into Ivy league universities. LOL. Wow! There's no accountability. That's what you call putting the shoe on the other foot, huh?
The first perquisite that should matter is your merit and your grades.
The only color that should go into decision making is the color green.
The first prerequisite is to learn how to spell or type the word "prerequisite" correctly.
@@captcontrolHooked on Phonics worked for me. 😊
Hmmm. Not really. So-called merit is a code word for racial prejudice. The applicants are kids.
@@bustercam199 I'd argue merit is the kid who had to take a job after school to take care of their family, or an elder sibling who had to watch their younger siblings.
@@AbsurdSphinx no need to argue, that is not correct.
Admission should be merit based only. No legacy, no racial consideration. Affirmative action was in place long enough to ensure generations of children from those who benefitted from it should be made to compete on merit, not race or legacy. Dr. Amanda Calhoun was raised in an environment where she should complete on merit, which she likely did & not race or legacy. If an applicant's merits and "stats" as people call them cannot stand on their own without race or legacy, there are other schools. We now see many schools bringng back test scores for admission. They now have data showing that admitting someone based on anything other than academic rigor, only hurts the student if they cannot do the work. Congrats to David & Joely on getting into Duke & Brown! They will be superb!
The Duke undershirt gave it away. 😮
I noticed that, too. lol
College admission and ALL government should take the RACE box out their application. There is no need to know the race of the applicant. As an immigrant, I always find it weird that they need to know my race.🤦♂🤦♂
You’re an immigrant. Learn the country’s history or consider leaving. We don’t need ignorant people who want to ignore history and its consequences because it doesn’t suit them.
Because these days if you are white, you are out. Happened to me at Berkeleys haas school of business.
@@Joe-ti7qd Im surprised your comment didn't get auto filtered
Without it they engaged in racist practices. The policies didn't appear out of thin air...
@@1truek269 You are spreading racist lies. The admissions boards are made up of every group out there. Your racist belief is from the 1960's and long outdated.
I dream one day to live in a nation where we will not be judged by the color of our skin, but by the content of OUR character. -MLK
Did he dream of a country where he was assassinated?
Crazy we're still having to dream about that today.
@@brucehicks5817 I think the black Americans forgot Dr MLK's teaching long time ago.
@@brucehicks5817I know, luckily they’re getting rid of affirmative action so that’s a step in the right direction.
@YightLagami-zt4mv you're right. Now America can go back to pretending it's about merit.
I cant believe he doesnt want to get a scholarship. He could go to most schools free.
why should your race stand out more than your grades/ extra curricular activities…why does every GOOD personal statement require exploitation of personal tragedy or struggles! This is messed up
It's a competition of who's the most privileged victim
I don't see a problem why is it that if your parents graduated from Harvard you being their kid automatically get admission even if you don't have the grades.
They're gonna ignore you in favor of their narrative.
These people fish for videos to fit their narratives and boast of their prejudices. Vice signaling.
@@bebdaumon3948 legacy admissions are problematic but so is asking students to exclusively write statements about personal tragedies and if you dont have any…good luck on admissions
Harvard rejects thousands of excellent, well-qualified applicants every year. He wasn't discriminated against and this is not news. Our HS valedictorian got waitlisted by Harvard and she had a 5.0 GPA! And that was back in the early 2000s, and she is a white Latina. This kid needs to build a bridge and get over it. This is not discrimination. He still did a great job, regardless, so hats off to him.
All things should race neutral, we should be judged by our effort, results and character….never skin color.
Sounds great on paper. But people making hiring & admission decisions often do not feel that way.
True. This also counts for legacy admissions. At one point only whites could go to certain colleges and universities. Meaning 90% of legacy students are white. Image having 97% average with 1560 SAT and not getting in. But a legacy student with a 92% average with 1500 SAT takes your spot. Harvard is only admitting 25% first generation students. Where do you think the other 75% is coming from. This is substitute for affirimative action. You nice thought but its not real.
@darkerknight7010
Do you really think affirmative action is going to change that or create another double standard?
@@mehnameehjeff6325 I can answer that. This was with affirimative action. Now that it's gone this has only become worse. Affirimative action was created to combat the double standard. There is no safe guard now.
Ideally, that’s how everything should be done, but we don’t live in an ideal world or country.
Oh well Asian Americans wanted it so here ya go
What is it 35-40% or accepted students are legacy or children of faculty. That has a much bigger impact than affirmative action.
Minoritized students? 😂 you went to Yale?
Thought I was the only one who caught that.
She was an Affirmative Action admit
I don't know what you're on about, but that's correct English. You obviously didn't go there.
@@Kirasfox how do you know this information?
yeah with rich ass parents and all the privilege in the world. she wants the same for her kids. nepo baby wanting to continue nepotism.
It was always legacy admissions that was the elephant in the room
Aka white students. Black people we have been saying that yet a lot of whites and some Asians ignored that and wanted to focus on AA even though it benefits white women the most.
@@gm6034 Thank you 👆🏾
@@gm6034 You realize there are people who want to get rid of both right? You act like it's either or. And you just conveniently ignore the black students who DEFEND legacy admissions like at 8:46 because it benefits themselves. Maybe just maybe stop putting people into boxes?
quantitatively, no race-based admissions is a far bigger factor. This is also a terrible point because the abolishment of affirmative action and legacy admissions are not mutually exclusive.
In a perfect world merit should carry you but in that perfect world their also wouldn't be racist keeping you out no matter what your merits say.
i wrote a paper against Affirmative Action for a soc class 14 yrs ago
i think its pathetic that a school would choose one person over another due to race vs merit
Affirmative action was struck down a year ago, get a better argument
My Black son graduated with Honors Masters' Degree without any help. He earned every A. He worked. He is respected and respectful. He left the US to live in Italy where he is treated like the good man he is.
Diversity selection nothing new
Really. Italy is like 10 times more racist than the US. I have Italian acquaintances who use the N-word.. Also, Italy hates the immigrants from Africa simply because of their skin color. It's terrible over there.
good to do away w affirmative action. whether u advance or not should be based solely on merit, not the shade of your skin
This video proves just how biased the schools are.
Notice how you didn’t talk about her grades and test scores.
Very good point. Everyone has troubles in their lives
@6:55 "...and with a 4.0 GPA"
She had a 4.0 gpa 🤥 your bias is showing that you don’t listen
@@BEG943Exactly
@@rjdev-tt1ebThey'll willingly put on blinders to fit their agenda in spite of that.
Woman has a PhD and still thinks that *TWO WRONGS MAKE A RIGHT.* Yeah, who didnt see that coming?
Being accepted to a top university is like making the top 10 of American Idol. You don't need it to be successful, but it can help you market yourself and get to where you want faster. Also, it is no guarantee of success. The individual still needs to put in the effort to be a success in the future.
I think the news media does a disservice by inferring that if these kids are not accepted to the top schools they wont ever be as successful as they could. It is just not true. At least in the U.S.
You guys can still get where you want to go by going to a lesser known institution with a better acceptance rate and putting in the effort in your career. Don't let these adults tell you any different!
Asians are hardworking and intelligent. Very sad that we had to go through this biased selection process
Asians aren’t the only hardworking ones. Moreover, y’all don’t seem to understand yall aren’t wanted in these white places either with LEGACY ADMISSIONS being the real reason yall weren’t being accepted, but yall wanna be white so bad, made black students your problem and now look how that’s working out for yall. 😌🤷🏾♂️
They're given every opportunity. I went to school with them. Their parents pull out all of the stops for them, particularly money, which buys time for them to study, tutoring, and college admission consultants. I know, I went to school with them.
There are just as many highly qualified in every race.
@@Lori-db8vlso their parents cared for their future but yours didn’t? Seems like a personal problem you should deal with
I work with plenty of Asians. Shut your dumb mouth. Intelligence has nothing to do with race.
Diversity and excellence can definitely co-exist. Why is no one talking about legacy admissions ?
You didn’t watch this video huh?
Another example of woke people proving they're walking Zombies. WATCH THE VIDEO. JFC.
12 people liked it too 🤣
I don't know, why don't you ask Al Gore's kids who all were allowed to attend Harvard and one of them barely made it out of high school
@@metallica2500 or C minus high school student, former President George W Bush, who was a legacy admission at Yale.
I've been teaching for 20 years. Special students carve their own paths, and they don't need Ivy leagues to do it!
The return of campuses with more men, men must love this.
All those Asians who let the Right Wing talk them into suing. It's over for them and i can't do nothing but laugh at them being duped
Yup 🍿
Meh. Affirmative Action laws never included Asians among the protected minorities.
@@candidone8544 cope.
The otucome is still iedentical, instiituions preferred people of your group who poorly perform on the sat and with poor gpas over individuals in the top 1% academically.
@@alexjohn9627 no one believes your lies anymore. Don't you have dogs to go tongue kiss?
I doubt any Affirmative Action would help me get into college or make it any easier to get admitted
I'd still probably have to give a large chunk of money to get in.
Regardless of Affirmative Action, college is expensive for everyone. Gaining admission doesn't mean you don't have to pay.
Same. It’s the idiots who think that you could be like me and be a B to B plus student and get into any ivy just because I’m black I already know 100% I wouldn’t get it at all. I still went to college only applied to one got in graduated and got my masters 🤷🏽♀️
I'm 76yrs , my career has span being a medical lab tech in a large public teaching hospital for 20yrs, changing to becoming a dentist in my mid 40s. While as a dentist I also taught at a technical college for assistant and hygienist. I've seen too many people persuading careers that they were not suited for, some were there because of family, money, or not knowing what they wanted to do. I had one young man in my dental school class that wanted to go into research, but his family insisted he take over his uncle ' s dental practice unfortunately after graduating his uncle was charged with sexual abusing some of his disable patients as he was noted for in his practice with giving dental care to them. He went back and because a medical researcher. Exam yourself, do what you love, I 've had to tell students this profession is not for them.
@@bethanywashington1243 Despite your postgraduate degree - and congratulations for that, by the way - your syntax and punctuation are not college-level.
Affirmative Action was never a good thing. It degraded every aspect of American culture and society.
Affirmative action did not work for everyone clearly. It is a meritocracy system especially in ivy leagues. I’m in Stanford medical and there are huge disparities especially ethnically regardless of GPA or excellence. The majority of students at Stanford are 2nd or third gen Chinese and primarily white. I’m mixed and the population of others so to speak are less than 1 percent and my GPA speaks for itself.
Yale is a joke, that’s where the elite that can’t make in a top university go.
Without affirmative action, the system is overrun with tiger moms that skew the student populations with one demographic. It's not even American to do that and not give a fair chance to white, brown, black and red students.
Mrs, Morris, congratulations , we need to be visible. no matter how mixed we are when african heritage is in the cooking, you know we are black . i came from ESwatini in Africa . as you can see my last name is Zulu . i knew before i set foot in the US that even though i have a caucasian parent , my full set of Zulu name obviously reveals that i have a domestic Home in the continetal african customs.
But you haven't offered a complete reason as to why folk aren't being "up to scratch" so to speak because i am pretty sure it is a same across europe , brain power is only 1/10th of the things that factor into admission.
On a separate note . Were you named after Octavia Butler or you just happened to be the 8th child in the family
Shouldn't exist...merit only.
Ban legacies first.
@@juliuscesar4176 Ban them both.
@@juliuscesar4176 Yeah...like I said merit only.
@@user1029xspl8dy Don't forget about parents who make big donations or who are powerful politicians, CEOs, judges, fraternity members...elites who have connections to get their rotten spoiled brat kids into competitive schools.
@@user1029xspl8dy formative action was already banned. Clearly you’re slow.
Asian applicants being rejected has more to do with competition then anything else. Get rid of legacy admissions if you really care about fairness.
It has to do with the percentage of the population that a minority constitutes. So, when you have a racial group who has out-performed ALL other groups yet only makes up 4 percent of the population of the nation (or in the case of a state's population for that state's medical school positions), you only allow four percent of that group's applicants in. Despite having the highest GPA's and MEDCAT scores of ALL groups, competition between Asians for the few existing spots allocated is intense. So you're right mentioning competition but if you can see, it's only competition between Asian students.
Then how do you explain Harvard's "personality score" that consistently ranked Asians the lowest of all races? Are you implying that Asians have the poorest personalities? I agree about abolishing legacy admissions.
Asians won't complain and they won't get rid of legacy admissions or challenge it because that would mean challenging rich white people and Asians worship white people deep down. Asians are the honorary, undercover bigoted whites.
@@mitchellwong1247 Given the amount of Asians in the world, you are competing against a lot of people who will apply from BOTH domestic and international. Internationals and out of state pay more in tuition. It's just all competition. University is more than just scoring. Score, as researched, is only one determinant of success in university.
If you believe "competition" is an institution systematically favouring one race over another despite a lower sat and gpa then sure. Race is a significantly higher factor in admissions than legacy admissions
You wanna be treated with a doctor who got in medical school because of the color or the academic achievement ?😂
That's crazy because prior to the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the majority of doctors got into medical school because of the white color of the skin. So yeah, since the 1400's they were the only people who could become doctors. If it was okay for that long then why make a fuss about it now after only 60 years?
Both. You are more comfortable with a doctor that looks like you!
@@rtothe7068 BS. I don't care about what my doctor looks like, I care about their character and competence.
@@user1029xspl8dy you don’t and that’s great for you! But a lot of people do because some drs actually intentionally harm others.
@@user1029xspl8dysure u do studies say different
I think our judicial system is counted telling us what a firmative action has done
The bigger problem is how useless college degrees are becoming. Maybe if companies stop requiring them so highly, all these elite schools wouldn't be the deciding factor of these people's lives.
cant agree more
FACTS!!!💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯🤓🇱🇷
depends on the college degree
@TruthTALKA no one cares what it is. At all. In fact even talking about it makes people's eyes roll
@@Joe-ti7qd Huh? Are you 12 years old? Nurses, Dentists, Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers still all need degrees to get licensed. Now let me see your response to it, although I am not expecting much after that last response which lacks any critical thinking.
Theirs always State and Universities
Nothing wrong with being stereotypical Asian though.
Yeah, this is also the part that I could not get. On one hand it’s not cool to stereotype people. But on the other hand, what’s wrong with a academically excellent and nerdy student that just happens to be an Asian? Why forcing a group to change its culture and forcing a person to change his personality? Does the US have too many tech nerds in science and engineering fields to the level that it’s becoming harmful for the society?
Affirmative action, like public housing, was never intended to be a permament fix. The issue is that in spite of policys designed to equalize opportunity, outcomes have not become equal. The question at hand is whether or not one subscribes to an ideology of equal opportunity, or one of equal outcome.
Yes, equal playing field, who determines equal? Usually a political party who has the power. How do we determine what equal is? Is there a flowchart or is there a specific equation we can use to determine equality or is it a feeling or is it just a undetermined amount of time? So many questions so few answers.
Discrimination based on ethnicity is illegal.
What a foolish response. Afiemative Action should be in place as long as there is systemic racism
Thank you big tobacco for founding Duke university so this young man can live his dreams.
This dude goes to Duke University, and he STILL has the nerve to complain on live TV 💀