Why does almost every single professional team need a new stadium or arena all of a sudden? More tax payer money pissed away. Let these rich billionaire owners build their own stadiums.
I agree it's ridiculous.. so many issues and problems throughout this entire country.. amazing what they will fight and fund for at all cost, but God forbid let's help the average American..
Why didn't the Bears and White Sox owners put money aside at least 10 years ago to fully pay for new stadiums? Or did their perspective leagues tell them not to because doing would set new precedent for owners absorbing full cost building new sports venues?
I think the White Sox’s should just play at one of those baseball fields were Soldier Field is once the new stadium is built.The capacity is like 100 its great for them!
Crazy how these billion dollar teams want taxpayer money instead of knowing that they have the money to make a new stadium and it would make the franchises more valuable
This is a joke and wreaks of desperation. Also the white Sox are not in need of a stadium. The sox stadium isn't old plus it's been recently renovated. Plus the white Sox are right next to multiple trains and they have ample room for as much tailgating as you can imagine.
I say the Chicago bears play the next 20 years at soldier field. People act like it wouldn’t last that long. There’s just a psychotic desire in this world for there to be new stadiums. How about the bears win something in this stadium before, last time I checked the bears haven’t won a thing since that spaceship dropped down in solider field.
I did comment on the video the first time this topic got brought up. I did say that Bears and White Sox could possibly build a multipurpose stadium and share one. Who knows, it could happen. It would be cool to see one again
In the 70's through the 90's Stadiums and arenas had no suites etc. Now every stadium and arena has one. So this proposal for the Bears and White Sox could work due to the suite and club level seating along with technology. Plus if playing surface is grass you got something.
Japan has the best multi purpose stadium there is. Check out a time lapse video of changing between baseball and soccer configurations. American architects and engineers can learn a lot from various countries in the world. We aren’t as innovative as we used to be.
Sox average over 30k when they play well. They have fans all over the city as well not just on the southside. I love the Sox and live in Arlington Hts. Many Sox fans live in the suburbs.
This is actually a good ideal if modern tech could make this happen as compared to yesteryear when it was awkward and weird as hell. Spending $3-5 billion should be able to legitimately switch from football to baseball without any ugly quirks and sightlines.
If it's okay to build a stadium on the lakefront if it was a dome, it'd be okay to just rebuild Soldier Field (or nearby) as a dome for the Bears instead of out in Arlington Park
They weren't ugly - they were hideous. I as a Chicago guy went to Cinn Riverfront Stadium once. With the astroturf and the completely symetrical circle of concrete it was like living in a gray concrete room without anything else just a bad carpet.
This has always been the smartest move esp in that new district on Roosevelt rd would keep it busy year around with different sports happening from summer(baseball) through winter(football) and spring (both)
the twins and vikings use to do this fine up until the 80's but with todays technology its suddenly not an option. smh. it could work much easier today and is very economical
I don't see it happening as a multi purpose stadium but maybe something like VTB Arena in Moscow - it's a football/soccer stadium with a basketball arena in the same building. Coincidentally it was built on top of an old stadium like new Soldier Field and retains part of the original facade. If they do it together it would minimize some of the costs by just making it one big project together.
That's what I said! I'm shocked this hasn't been built yet here in America. It would change the pro sports architecture game forever. Cities might do this to save money too. Big thing is would it work with two different ownership groups. I could see it working for, say a future Seattle football/soccer stadium since both the Seahawks and MLS Sounders are owned by the Allen family. In this situation, would the McCaskey and Reinsdorf families work together?
The White Sox had their "Wrigley Field" they had an iconic stadoum in the Old Comiskey Park. Instead of building their boaring "New" Comiskey, and then selling of the naming right to that dump (which doesnt deserve the same name as the original, lets be honest). They should have renovated the original and today they would have an iconic classic ballpark.
It worked for years. It should happen again, especially in small markets. Roberto Clemente played in a multi-purpose stadium, as did Joe Montana, Lou Brock, Franco Harris, and Eric Dickerson with the Rams. Cmon, save taxpayer money build multi-purpose.
Ridiculous idea thay was rightly canned after cookie cutter experiment. The shapes sizes and character requirements of the fields are just too drastically different.
This guys voice is so annoying. BTW, I am the one who brought it up of the shared multipurpose stadium, and it makes nothing but sense. Reinsdorf and the McCaskey's going in on building it on the AH site.
My concern with the White Sox and Bears sharing a stadium is there are too many differences between both sports for there to be a convenient building for both teams. The stadium won't look aesthetically pleasing, which besides the "spaceship" not having a dome, is why Chicago desires a new stadium to begin with. The NFL uses synthetic Turf instead of natural grass, something only five baseball teams use (the White Sox aren't one of them). Baseball players hate catching fly balls at Tropicana Field, and a retractable dome does no good for the Illinoisan taxpayer. Sure the Bears played at Wrigley Field for 50 years, but times have changed. If Chicago replicates the A's and Raiders neither will stay at the Windy City.
I thought this as well. Nobody could really be wrong in an argument when they mention today's technology that is true. The fields would have to be a some type of a circlular rotation and lower teirs have to be able to adjust as well.
The Sox don't need a new stadium. The stadium they forced the city to build 30 years ago is perfectly fine and hasnt been paid for. The Bears need to build their own stadium on their own dollar.
I would support the SOX new spot in the south loop (even though there’s nothing wrong where they R on 35th) b4 EVER giving the bears a DIME for a new stadium. & putting a roof/dome iz completely disrespectful to the legacy of the bears&chicago.
The whole plan was to get it approved before the state legislation goes on break, that would have allowed them to break ground next summer. If they don't come to an agreement soon, it'll be pushed back another year.
The closest a baseball/football sports complex has come to working is the Truman Sports Complex in Kansas City. What it really is is a separate football stadium (Arrowhead) and a separate ballpark (Kaufman) on adjacent plots of land. There simply is not enough available land in metro Chicago for such a football/baseball complex here.
@@Chris1982416 I live here too. While there is indeed plenty of land, most of it is already developed. There is little vacant land - especially in Chicago itself - to build even one single-use stadium, let alone a dual stadium complex or a multi-purpose stadium. When Guaranteed Rate Field was built in the late 1980's, several businesses on the south side of 35th Street along with a few dozen houses had to be torn down. This takes more money. For this reason, separate facilities for the two teams (the Arlington Park site for the Bears, the parking lot where Comiskey Park stood for the White Sox) make more sense than would one multi-purpose stadium.
I think it could work. The problem is the baseball field is so much larger than a football field, but the idea hasn't been revisited in a while. Maybe a good designer can figure out how to make it efficiently work.
Baseball a nd football aren't like basketball and hockey. The Baseball field is much larger than a football field. Football stadiums hold more people than Baseball stadiums. The two shared domed stadiums that come to mind are the old Metronome in Minneapolis and the Kingdome in Seattle. The Houston Astrodome also was a shared dome with the Astros and the Oilers.. Back then those stadiums had that hard artificial turf. Obviously shared Baseball and football stadiums are not favorable to the tenants nor the fans, which is why those teams have their own stadiums. The zNY Giants and NY Jets share a football stadium but look for the Jets to be moving in the future. The Lakers and the Clippers shared a stadium, but the Clippers are moving into a new stadium for the next season. Those are same sport tenants. Look at Oakland and the Coliseum. The Raiders bailed to Las Vegas and the A's may be following them. I just don't see a multipurpose Baseball/football stadium ever working, especially if it's a domed one. I would love to see the Bears stay on the Lakefront and the White Sox move to the 78, but I think the private sector has to foot the entire stadium bill and ask the government for infrastructure aid.
Jfc. This is the Chicago freaking Bears. The charter franchise of the NFL. There is ZERO reason the Bears need to share a stadium with a bottom feeder MLB franchise. Except for the fact that the McCaskey’s are even cheaper than Reinsdorf. Which is almost impossible to believe.
Give us a 100% publicly-funded multipurpose fixed roof dome with no natural light and an ungodly large upper deck. And the outside better not have trees or a chrome facade. Thats what the people want!
Nobody in Chicago has talked about this at all...what is your source? I can guarantee you the Bears have zero interest in this and it wouldn't ever happen
@@soxpacker A new owner won't be a quick fix overnight, they need the right people to run the operation, look at the Mets , the owner has deep pockets and they're still mostly at the bottom of their division
I think a multi-purpose stadium built today could totally work. It is not ideal, but some of the bowl games that are played in baseball ballparks work. I have seen sketches online of hypothetical stadiums with entire sections of seats that can be rolled up to a 200-foot wide NFL playing surface. I think a multi-purpose stadium designed in 2024 would be a complete departure from the doughnut-shaped stadiums of fifty years ago.
This is foolishness. The Bears organization is playing a ridiculous game with both eyes closed. Get serious or stay put. I don't care anymore. Just don't count on anyone to bail you out.
A multi-purpose stadium for the Bears and Sox...2 words...HELL NO!!!!! I know people are tired of the "taxpayer-funded stadium" thing, but I believe the Bears are in more favorable terms to get some public funding to get their stadium than the White Sox.
They can have the Federal Government pay for these Stadiums. If they can find someone to sneak in the Capitol find an Ombibus bill and slip a provision in it to build 2 Stadiums in Chicago. Nobody will notice
Stadium seating for baseball just would not work in a 60,000 seat football stadium.
they don't build stadiums like that anymore
Why does almost every single professional team need a new stadium or arena all of a sudden? More tax payer money pissed away. Let these rich billionaire owners build their own stadiums.
I agree it's ridiculous.. so many issues and problems throughout this entire country.. amazing what they will fight and fund for at all cost, but God forbid let's help the average American..
They know the tides are turning against them so they want it now.
Ever since the Braves where able to get a local move and a new Stadium, the race has been on.
Man we don’t want to share no stadium with the white Sox’s 😂😂😂as a bears fan I can speak for all of us an say we don’t want this
Soooo agree
the elder Mayor Daley wanted to build a Sox and Bears dome in the early 70s that likely would have been replaced with seperate stadiums 20 years ago
Why didn't the Bears and White Sox owners put money aside at least 10 years ago to fully pay for new stadiums? Or did their perspective leagues tell them not to because doing would set new precedent for owners absorbing full cost building new sports venues?
You should pay for it
This idea would be wild. I feel like this could work with today’s technology but idk
The Bears used to play at Wrigley Field before Soldier field.
Ya back in the 40s
@@pablomoreno1204 60s
1921-70
I think the White Sox’s should just play at one of those baseball fields were Soldier Field is once the new stadium is built.The capacity is like 100 its great for them!
I don’t think the new Sox park will be built until a new owner buys in and finances
The white Sox won't get a new owner. Jerry reinsdorf will hand it to his kids when he dies
Sox will be in a new stadium by 2030. New comiskey won't see the 2030s
Mistake on the Lake 2.0???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Crazy how these billion dollar teams want taxpayer money instead of knowing that they have the money to make a new stadium and it would make the franchises more valuable
Because you're not as rich as they claim to be a lot of these owners are not as rich
@@andrebailey6676they can get a loan and put the team ownership as collateral.
Thats how every other business is run.
Because they are funded by taxpayers. Corporate welfare abuse.
I think it would be cool to see a modern day multi purpose stadium
Not happening.
I believe the multipurpose stadium should come back. Especially with the cost of building materials
Agreed. $aving $'s makes sense in this ¢urrent economy.
Amen. Preaching to the choir
I don't think that'll ever happen again only because of the configuration
There was some small talk about the White Sox going to Soldier Field if the Bears went to Arlington. Who knows now.
Not hap
This is a joke and wreaks of desperation. Also the white Sox are not in need of a stadium. The sox stadium isn't old plus it's been recently renovated. Plus the white Sox are right next to multiple trains and they have ample room for as much tailgating as you can imagine.
Most sport teams should be like clippers owner pay for his own arena
I say the Chicago bears play the next 20 years at soldier field. People act like it wouldn’t last that long. There’s just a psychotic desire in this world for there to be new stadiums. How about the bears win something in this stadium before, last time I checked the bears haven’t won a thing since that spaceship dropped down in solider field.
Mine as well just keep the 2 dumps they play in now
I did comment on the video the first time this topic got brought up. I did say that Bears and White Sox could possibly build a multipurpose stadium and share one. Who knows, it could happen. It would be cool to see one again
In the 70's through the 90's Stadiums and arenas had no suites etc. Now every stadium and arena has one. So this proposal for the Bears and White Sox could work due to the suite and club level seating along with technology. Plus if playing surface is grass you got something.
Japan has the best multi purpose stadium there is. Check out a time lapse video of changing between baseball and soccer configurations. American architects and engineers can learn a lot from various countries in the world. We aren’t as innovative as we used to be.
Sox average over 30k when they play well. They have fans all over the city as well not just on the southside. I love the Sox and live in Arlington Hts. Many Sox fans live in the suburbs.
So yo would have 30k in empty seats not a good look
This is actually a good ideal if modern tech could make this happen as compared to yesteryear when it was awkward and weird as hell. Spending $3-5 billion should be able to legitimately switch from football to baseball without any ugly quirks and sightlines.
The Cubs and Bears used to share Wrigley Field so it's not that crazy of an idea.
That was over 50 years ago.
@@glenbard07 so what, they could still find a way to make it work today if they really wanted to pursue it.
@@coreyrowe4119 But they won't. This is only speculation from people looking for something to talk about.
If it's okay to build a stadium on the lakefront if it was a dome, it'd be okay to just rebuild Soldier Field (or nearby) as a dome for the Bears instead of out in Arlington Park
Good. Build a dual mlb/nfl stadium for bears/sox. Modern architecture could make it work. Unlike those ugly cookie cutter dual stadiums of the '70's.
They weren't ugly - they were hideous. I as a Chicago guy went to Cinn Riverfront Stadium once. With the astroturf and the completely symetrical circle of concrete it was like living in a gray concrete room without anything else just a bad carpet.
This has always been the smartest move esp in that new district on Roosevelt rd would keep it busy year around with different sports happening from summer(baseball) through winter(football) and spring (both)
the sox don't need a new stadium!!!!
I like the photo around 1:55 of the potential new Bears stadium! Very nice !! 🤟
Guarantee Rate Field at NEW Solider Field?????
the twins and vikings use to do this fine up until the 80's but with todays technology its suddenly not an option. smh. it could work much easier today and is very economical
I don't see it happening as a multi purpose stadium but maybe something like VTB Arena in Moscow - it's a football/soccer stadium with a basketball arena in the same building. Coincidentally it was built on top of an old stadium like new Soldier Field and retains part of the original facade. If they do it together it would minimize some of the costs by just making it one big project together.
That's what I said!
I'm shocked this hasn't been built yet here in America. It would change the pro sports architecture game forever. Cities might do this to save money too.
Big thing is would it work with two different ownership groups. I could see it working for, say a future Seattle football/soccer stadium since both the Seahawks and MLS Sounders are owned by the Allen family. In this situation, would the McCaskey and Reinsdorf families work together?
Defund sportsball
Agreed 💯👍
They would make for interesting bedfellows
Think MLB would force the White Sox to relocate before accepting this idea.
Most likely to Nashville in a sale
@@MilesTailsProweNo because Nashville doesn't have a ballpark ready to go
And Chicago is the third biggest TV market. No they are not giving that up for Nashville.
@@scotttild They gave up SF for Vegas.
I agree
The White Sox had their "Wrigley Field" they had an iconic stadoum in the Old Comiskey Park. Instead of building their boaring "New" Comiskey, and then selling of the naming right to that dump (which doesnt deserve the same name as the original, lets be honest). They should have renovated the original and today they would have an iconic classic ballpark.
I always said that. Wrigley is now actually a tourist attraction - New Comiskey not so much.
It worked for years. It should happen again, especially in small markets. Roberto Clemente played in a multi-purpose stadium, as did Joe Montana, Lou Brock, Franco Harris, and Eric Dickerson with the Rams. Cmon, save taxpayer money build multi-purpose.
Those stadiums didn't really make money though. Not like today where stadiums are basically works of art.
Ridiculous idea thay was rightly canned after cookie cutter experiment. The shapes sizes and character requirements of the fields are just too drastically different.
This guys voice is so annoying. BTW, I am the one who brought it up of the shared multipurpose stadium, and it makes nothing but sense. Reinsdorf and the McCaskey's going in on building it on the AH site.
2 fields, 1 roof.
Could work. Just sand down the pitchers mound when ya want to play football.
Here we go again!!!
My concern with the White Sox and Bears sharing a stadium is there are too many differences between both sports for there to be a convenient building for both teams. The stadium won't look aesthetically pleasing, which besides the "spaceship" not having a dome, is why Chicago desires a new stadium to begin with. The NFL uses synthetic Turf instead of natural grass, something only five baseball teams use (the White Sox aren't one of them). Baseball players hate catching fly balls at Tropicana Field, and a retractable dome does no good for the Illinoisan taxpayer. Sure the Bears played at Wrigley Field for 50 years, but times have changed. If Chicago replicates the A's and Raiders neither will stay at the Windy City.
Minnesota US Bank Stadium technically can have baseball. That is multi purpose. I think Minnesota Golden Gophers played some baseball games in it.
Thought they were moving to the suburbs.
What's wrong with Comisky Park and Soldier Field?
I love multi purpose stadiums.
I thought this as well. Nobody could really be wrong in an argument when they mention today's technology that is true. The fields would have to be a some type of a circlular rotation and lower teirs have to be able to adjust as well.
Saitama Super Arena and Sapporo Dome do multi-purpose very well with today's technology.
The Sox don't need a new stadium. The stadium they forced the city to build 30 years ago is perfectly fine and hasnt been paid for. The Bears need to build their own stadium on their own dollar.
The Illinois legislature has adjourned for this year so forget about
Legislature may not be in session. However, the politicking doesn't stop.
I would support the SOX new spot in the south loop (even though there’s nothing wrong where they R on 35th) b4 EVER giving the bears a DIME for a new stadium. & putting a roof/dome iz completely disrespectful to the legacy of the bears&chicago.
If it is not a retractable field.. so no...
Chicago should have more tenants/teams in MLB, NFL and a "traditional" football/soccer team
The whole plan was to get it approved before the state legislation goes on break, that would have allowed them to break ground next summer. If they don't come to an agreement soon, it'll be pushed back another year.
Multipurpose stadiums don't work anymore wake up
The closest a baseball/football sports complex has come to working is the Truman Sports Complex in Kansas City. What it really is is a separate football stadium (Arrowhead) and a separate ballpark (Kaufman) on adjacent plots of land. There simply is not enough available land in metro Chicago for such a football/baseball complex here.
There is plenty of land in Chicago what are you talking about? I live here.
@@Chris1982416 I live here too. While there is indeed plenty of land, most of it is already developed. There is little vacant land - especially in Chicago itself - to build even one single-use stadium, let alone a dual stadium complex or a multi-purpose stadium. When Guaranteed Rate Field was built in the late 1980's, several businesses on the south side of 35th Street along with a few dozen houses had to be torn down. This takes more money. For this reason, separate facilities for the two teams (the Arlington Park site for the Bears, the parking lot where Comiskey Park stood for the White Sox) make more sense than would one multi-purpose stadium.
Oh man! that would be the most Chicago thing ever I'm so for it just for the memes!\
Not happening!!
Chicago can't support TWO mlb teams anymore.
Especially with Illinois population loss
no way use the hospital Reese site for the bears sox don't need a stadium
cool
I think it could work. The problem is the baseball field is so much larger than a football field, but the idea hasn't been revisited in a while. Maybe a good designer can figure out how to make it efficiently work.
Baseball a nd football aren't like basketball and hockey. The Baseball field is much larger than a football field. Football stadiums hold more people than Baseball stadiums. The two shared domed stadiums that come to mind are the old Metronome in Minneapolis and the Kingdome in Seattle. The Houston Astrodome also was a shared dome with the Astros and the Oilers.. Back then those stadiums had that hard artificial turf.
Obviously shared Baseball and football stadiums are not favorable to the tenants nor the fans, which is why those teams have their own stadiums. The zNY Giants and NY Jets share a football stadium but look for the Jets to be moving in the future. The Lakers and the Clippers shared a stadium, but the Clippers are moving into a new stadium for the next season. Those are same sport tenants.
Look at Oakland and the Coliseum. The Raiders bailed to Las Vegas and the A's may be following them.
I just don't see a multipurpose Baseball/football stadium ever working, especially if it's a domed one. I would love to see the Bears stay on the Lakefront and the White Sox move to the 78, but I think the private sector has to foot the entire stadium bill and ask the government for infrastructure aid.
Good
White Sox deserve their own stadium. If Chicago can't build us one, then we just go to the suburbs.
Um, they have one now.
Jfc. This is the Chicago freaking Bears. The charter franchise of the NFL. There is ZERO reason the Bears need to share a stadium with a bottom feeder MLB franchise. Except for the fact that the McCaskey’s are even cheaper than Reinsdorf. Which is almost impossible to believe.
Excuse me the Bears suck and have only won one Super Bowl.. there are nowhere near Elites and are very awful to be honest
Give us a 100% publicly-funded multipurpose fixed roof dome with no natural light and an ungodly large upper deck. And the outside better not have trees or a chrome facade. Thats what the people want!
Sox could play at the Kane County Cougars stadium…might actually sell out a game or two 😂
That's just like the Oakland A's playing in Sacramento, this is not as desperate a situation
This is bad I ain't sharing we seen that with the Oakland colosium with the A's in raiders slipping on that patch of dirt no thank you 😑
Nobody in Chicago has talked about this at all...what is your source? I can guarantee you the Bears have zero interest in this and it wouldn't ever happen
Not a good idea it worked in Oakland and San Francisco and the early 60s not today
send the white sox to arlington heights
Billionaires build your own stadium
There are always other cities willing to build stadiums for them.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa what are you knobbin billionaires?
I don't see NFLs massive ego would allow shared stadiums unless it's an MLS team owned by the smae owner of the NFL team
This is 100% not a possibility.
Fog Bowl!
Why don't the White Sox move to Wrigley Field with the Cubs.
Hell no
No, unless the Cubs want the White Sox to pay rent for them, it would be extra revenue for the Cubs.
😂😂😂 so 2 rival teams playing in the same team.
should shave stadium save state $
Just stay at soldier field
Bears & White Sox to Arlington Heights. Mega sports/entertainment complex.
There not going
White Sox need to move. A new city would be good. But not Nashville!
Then where?
They don't need to move... and they really don't even need a new ballpark, they need a new owner.
@@soxpacker A new owner won't be a quick fix overnight, they need the right people to run the operation, look at the Mets , the owner has deep pockets and they're still mostly at the bottom of their division
I think MLB will Force the White Sox to relocate and the Bears will get what want.Chicago is a city which needs a new Stauim.🇹🇯🐻🐻🐻🐻
We already have 2 new stadiums. 20 - 30 years is not old.
I think a multi-purpose stadium built today could totally work. It is not ideal, but some of the bowl games that are played in baseball ballparks work. I have seen sketches online of hypothetical stadiums with entire sections of seats that can be rolled up to a 200-foot wide NFL playing surface. I think a multi-purpose stadium designed in 2024 would be a complete departure from the doughnut-shaped stadiums of fifty years ago.
Sounds like an awful idea. I hope they do it. You'd have tons of content to make from it. 😂
White Sox = Clippers, Mets, Islanders.
Cubs = Lakers, Yankees, Rangers.
Kinda need two teams.
I feel for Chicago, this is gonna be a MESS !
Also White Sox = Jets, Angels
It wouldn't look right.
This is foolishness. The Bears organization is playing a ridiculous game with both eyes closed. Get serious or stay put. I don't care anymore. Just don't count on anyone to bail you out.
leave the museum campus alone
I say do a Gofundme😂😂😂.
NO
Absolutely fucking not
Sox should stay at 35th St
Bears should build on the lakefront
Never!
hell no please dont
we dont even care about the sox on the southside anymore I know nobody else does
Lmao this will never happen
Nah, a new Multipurpose stadium will never work. The White Sox need to move.
As a Sox fan🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮.. bears can go back to Wrigley
Not happening
2 useless organizations
its not gonna happen
A multi-purpose stadium for the Bears and Sox...2 words...HELL NO!!!!! I know people are tired of the "taxpayer-funded stadium" thing, but I believe the Bears are in more favorable terms to get some public funding to get their stadium than the White Sox.
They can have the Federal Government pay for these Stadiums.
If they can find someone to sneak in the Capitol find an Ombibus bill and slip a provision in it to build 2 Stadiums in Chicago. Nobody will notice