The Rebel Alliance made good use of those Republic Walkers of any kind as they are not picky on anything they can get to fight the Galactic Empire and its military power.
@@scoutman66 I like to call it the algorithms blessing sometimes my random comments that don't make sense without context reach the top of the comment section
The AT-AP is my favorite 3-legged walker of them all. It's a massive artillery walker capable of devastating whole companies of forces in moments. And it's symmetrical too with the third leg being in the middle for stability. So all in all a really good artillery and a great walker.
The third leg is retractable so it’s capable of movement while in two-legged configuration. Not too mention the top rotating blaster mount is capable of firing in two-legged configuration as is the under mounted laser cannon. The third leg is used for stability when firing the mass driver cannon. It has the nickname of “Sniper Tank” for a reason. Able to annihilate enemy armor and fortifications from large distances. Best supported by an accompanying small infantry force imo.
Even legged walkers seemed to provide great stability compared to the odd legged walkers, and it was more common senses that the more legs will provide more mobility and stability.
Let’s talk about how the ATDT is essentially a smaller less effective version of the ATAP. Both are meant to fulfill artillery roles and the only argument I could see for the ATDT is that it’s smaller profile would allow more numbers and mobility. As for a prolonged siege I’d like more ATAP’s.
The Old Republic has a large number of three legged walker vehicles that can be seen around on the various planets. But as far as I am aware none are usable by the player and are just there as decoration for the areas.
I've always been fascinated by the Octuptarra Tri-droids, ever since ROTS and the Clone Wars. I actually would've really liked to see the Octuptarra Tri-droid as a reinforcement in Battlefront 2 tbh. Not the big one though, the one that was of a smaller scale from ROTS. The one that didn't shoot long range laser beams, but had these chain-fed ordinance launchers; it would've been fun to spam missiles from those lol.
As a droid walker, radial symmetry and 360 degrees vision works best for the octupterra, because unlike manned walkers it has the ability to see in all 360 degrees at once and process it all together, something a manned craft couldn't do without a team or multiple screens or some kind of psychic connection. This lack of hesitation would be vital in the high-stake and fast-paced fighting of the clone wars, point being, radial symmetry just works better with droids than it does with manned vehicles at its size, if it was bigger than it'd be less a walker and more like a moving defense platform where total knowledge of all sides wouldn't be needed, because each side could and would only be able to focus on its own side, if made smaller, then radial symmetry would be impractical. Point being, the octupterra is cool and shows how the biology of organics limits the design doctrine of war vehicles to designs that work better with most organics, bilateral symmetry.
Retractable leg has one invaluable function; that thing can’t trip forward nearly as easily with that thing deployed. Like if an AT-AT gets knocked over it can get back up, but an AT-ST cannot because it only has two limbs. The third one will make it harder for the very front heavy walked to tip when faced with the recoil of its main canon.
I've heard the comment from several sources that tripods are extremely stable when stationary, but highly unstable when in motion. Having experimented with tripodal mecha myself, I agree that three-legged walkers are generally a bad idea. If you really want to take advantage of the tripod's stability, have a hexapedal (six-legged) walker, because then three legs are in contact with the ground while the other three are stepping, in a double-tripod configuration. (Look at how ants walk for more info.) The other advantage of a six-legged walker is that it can lose one or two legs without major penalty, or even three legs with moderate penalty.
I'm... Confused... One of the griped with the three legged walkers is that, "You take out one leg and it's down". Isn't that the case with the vast majority of walkers? That's a walker problem, not a tripod problem, right? Maybe an AT-AT could survive with one leg destroyed, but I expect it couldn't move with three. AT-TE might be able to without one if it's one of the middle ones, I suppose, assuming the legs could hold that weight. Certainly all bipedal walkers would get wrecked with one leg gone. Them being slower does make sense, but probably doesn't necessarily have to be the case. Just is with the particular walkers of the clone wars. I guess my two cents is that three legged walkers are cool, even if most of them are just bipedal walkers strapped with so many guns they just needed a third leg for support. They're a nice mixup from an aesthetic/storytelling perspective, even if the actual machines created are clearly not designed by mechanical engineers. Would be kind of cool to see Disney hire a team of engineers to improve upon a bunch of random designs and see a whole new roster of walkers/hovercrafts designed to be super effective rather than just look cool. Albeit, pretty sure they'd end up with a Borg Cube....
4:06-4:11: Oh hey, it's the Battle Droid from that comic that joined the Republic and really wanted to use a Lightsaber. 4:59-5:07: Oh it was retracted able that explains why the ones I used in Lego Star Wars 3 The Clone Wars during the Ryloth missions didn't have a third leg.
@@michaelandreipalon359 That's okay. I never actually read it myself, I just saw a video talking about the B1 that joined the Republic, nicknamed Bats, a while back and also looked up info about it on Wookiepedia, that sight along with great videos like the ones made by Geetsly are how I get most of my EU knowledge from stuff outside of TV and Video Games.
Its not so much the legs that make it better, or slower. Its the balance system. Three legs gets you static balance. Which gives stability. But changing its position is a time consuming process without a dynamic balance system to keep the vehicle upright when changing its balance point between given locations. Much like in more recent robots concepts in our reality. Two legs requires a dynamic system for the most part. 4 legs can have both, and with an extra leg to shift it's position with, it can have the best of both worlds. But its also more moving parts to coordinate. And theres more that can go wrong.
Three legs are good for specialized situations, but what I'd love to see would be a quad walker with instead of a traditional leg for the front 2 is a single middle one that acts like a wall, allowing for infantry to be in it and ride into the battle untouched by enemy small arms fire, and them unload safely behind heavy armor, all the while the heavy front plate would still provide shelter if it is destoyed on approach
I love the AT-AT and the 2 legged walkers from the ones the clones and Windu used to the bigger and more armored ones in clone wars and empire. They're just cool.
Problem with the tri droid is that it couldn't actually move if Star Wars didn't pick and choose when physics applies to a vehicle. As soon as it lifted one foot, it would tip over as the center of mass is not over the remaining two legs
The Combine from Half Life used the Striders, though their tech is quite different than anything from Star Wars. They were three legged and fast though not very tough, good high speed strike vehicles with a lot of firepower. The Hunters were a smaller even more mobile version.
The AT-TE's six legs and lower centre of gravity is the best approach for stability. The AT-AT is the physical embodiment of the Imperial military under the Tarkin Doctrine, big and scray, but not very effective in many situations other than "run straight at the enemy, try not to die".
I've always though the AT-AT was great against opponents who lacked heavy armor of their own, it's height and low speed would make it super vulnerable to a low profile heavy tank. Can't dodge and easy to hit, but can really tear up an enemy who doesn't something with a big gun.
The AT-AP looks like it would exclusively be useful as a defensive gun emplacement or as a long-range mobile artillery unit. It just doesn't fit as a proper assault walker.
Timely, considering the All-Terrain Personal Transport rant by Eckhart's Ladder (though that was a two-legged walker). Oh, and hoorah for half a million subs!
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In my down-to-earth design? Well, look up the British Tank Destroyer AT-8. Now, imagine putting two wide & thick legs, designed to step onto & crawl over various barricades, modernized dragon teeth included, in towards the front. It mostly still has that tank silhouette, however its extremely heavily armored, designed to tank damage & provide support fire so that the frontline engineers can clear the barricade that it just crawled over. Its 3rd leg is basically a push it forward leg, similar to the AT-AP’s 3rd leg, but willing to update the design based on how heavy this tank-tank is…
So the more legs the walkers have, the bigger they can be? Then how can the AT-ATs in the service of the Empire can walk so smoothly despite having just four legs?
If this is true then why was the AT-AP a playable walker in lego star wars the clone wars video game which even though it never showed it's third leg and was indeed slower than other walkers WHY was it used in a game that was made from the first two seasons of the clone wars?
Love the video but sometimes the photos shown are of walkers other than the one you are currently talking about which can be confusing for non super star nerds.
The Rebel Alliance made good use of those Republic Walkers of any kind as they are not picky on anything they can get to fight the Galactic Empire and its military power.
How tf does a comment that's stating the obvious get 106 likes?
@@scoutman66 I like to call it the algorithms blessing sometimes my random comments that don't make sense without context reach the top of the comment section
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The AT-AP is my favorite 3-legged walker of them all. It's a massive artillery walker capable of devastating whole companies of forces in moments. And it's symmetrical too with the third leg being in the middle for stability. So all in all a really good artillery and a great walker.
One of the first lego sets i bought for myself was one of the AT-AP they made
@@adorimable9690 Wasn't that a really old one from before 2010? Because regardless that is really cool, good for you.
I cannot like this comment bc u have 69 as ur like amount but I totally agree
@@georgewashington5283 That's not going to remain that way for long you know, you might aswell like it to show you like it.
@@georgewashington5283 what're you? 9?
The third leg is retractable so it’s capable of movement while in two-legged configuration. Not too mention the top rotating blaster mount is capable of firing in two-legged configuration as is the under mounted laser cannon. The third leg is used for stability when firing the mass driver cannon. It has the nickname of “Sniper Tank” for a reason. Able to annihilate enemy armor and fortifications from large distances. Best supported by an accompanying small infantry force imo.
Add in the shared parts from the at-te for easier maintenance and resupply of spares and it's a winner design for a support vehicle.
Essentially, it's meant to be mobile artillery, not a Frontline war machine. Keep that in mind.
At first glance my reaction was: "that third leg is more like a 'stabilizing arm' than a proper leg."
It makes sense, the AT-AP is an artillery piece, the third leg was designed for stabilization during main gun firing.
It’s not even a real vehicle how would u know
@@Alcazaralhambra Maybe because it's stated in the video?
@@Alcazaralhambrayou see it walking with 2 legs in revenge of the sith, you twat😊
Even legged walkers seemed to provide great stability compared to the odd legged walkers, and it was more common senses that the more legs will provide more mobility and stability.
Let’s talk about how the ATDT is essentially a smaller less effective version of the ATAP. Both are meant to fulfill artillery roles and the only argument I could see for the ATDT is that it’s smaller profile would allow more numbers and mobility. As for a prolonged siege I’d like more ATAP’s.
The Old Republic has a large number of three legged walker vehicles that can be seen around on the various planets. But as far as I am aware none are usable by the player and are just there as decoration for the areas.
I've always been fascinated by the Octuptarra Tri-droids, ever since ROTS and the Clone Wars. I actually would've really liked to see the Octuptarra Tri-droid as a reinforcement in Battlefront 2 tbh. Not the big one though, the one that was of a smaller scale from ROTS. The one that didn't shoot long range laser beams, but had these chain-fed ordinance launchers; it would've been fun to spam missiles from those lol.
As a droid walker, radial symmetry and 360 degrees vision works best for the octupterra, because unlike manned walkers it has the ability to see in all 360 degrees at once and process it all together, something a manned craft couldn't do without a team or multiple screens or some kind of psychic connection. This lack of hesitation would be vital in the high-stake and fast-paced fighting of the clone wars, point being, radial symmetry just works better with droids than it does with manned vehicles at its size, if it was bigger than it'd be less a walker and more like a moving defense platform where total knowledge of all sides wouldn't be needed, because each side could and would only be able to focus on its own side, if made smaller, then radial symmetry would be impractical. Point being, the octupterra is cool and shows how the biology of organics limits the design doctrine of war vehicles to designs that work better with most organics, bilateral symmetry.
My favorite series of walkers have 2 legs. They were called Skywalkers
Well I hope Anakin isn't on that list
If Rey is on the list, so is Anakin
respect for the ATPT- so easy to pop in Rogue Squadron, but such great weaponry, and so cute when it's running
The AT-AP doesn’t walk on 3 legs, the third one in the middle is to stabilize it when it fires.
Yeah he just said that
The AT-AP is my favorite walker design, I love the concept behind it. And I've had the lego set since I was a kid.
Retractable leg has one invaluable function; that thing can’t trip forward nearly as easily with that thing deployed. Like if an AT-AT gets knocked over it can get back up, but an AT-ST cannot because it only has two limbs. The third one will make it harder for the very front heavy walked to tip when faced with the recoil of its main canon.
I've heard the comment from several sources that tripods are extremely stable when stationary, but highly unstable when in motion. Having experimented with tripodal mecha myself, I agree that three-legged walkers are generally a bad idea. If you really want to take advantage of the tripod's stability, have a hexapedal (six-legged) walker, because then three legs are in contact with the ground while the other three are stepping, in a double-tripod configuration. (Look at how ants walk for more info.) The other advantage of a six-legged walker is that it can lose one or two legs without major penalty, or even three legs with moderate penalty.
I'm... Confused... One of the griped with the three legged walkers is that, "You take out one leg and it's down". Isn't that the case with the vast majority of walkers? That's a walker problem, not a tripod problem, right? Maybe an AT-AT could survive with one leg destroyed, but I expect it couldn't move with three. AT-TE might be able to without one if it's one of the middle ones, I suppose, assuming the legs could hold that weight. Certainly all bipedal walkers would get wrecked with one leg gone. Them being slower does make sense, but probably doesn't necessarily have to be the case. Just is with the particular walkers of the clone wars.
I guess my two cents is that three legged walkers are cool, even if most of them are just bipedal walkers strapped with so many guns they just needed a third leg for support. They're a nice mixup from an aesthetic/storytelling perspective, even if the actual machines created are clearly not designed by mechanical engineers. Would be kind of cool to see Disney hire a team of engineers to improve upon a bunch of random designs and see a whole new roster of walkers/hovercrafts designed to be super effective rather than just look cool. Albeit, pretty sure they'd end up with a Borg Cube....
I had a toy of this as a kid and it irrationally infuriated me trying to figure out a use for the third leg.
Congratulations on your 500,000 subscribers, Geetsly's!
4:06-4:11: Oh hey, it's the Battle Droid from that comic that joined the Republic and really wanted to use a Lightsaber.
4:59-5:07: Oh it was retracted able that explains why the ones I used in Lego Star Wars 3 The Clone Wars during the Ryloth missions didn't have a third leg.
What comic was this again?
Reminds me of some real life artillery pieces.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Star Wars Adventures (2017) 19.
Ah, never read it, so that explains why I don't know about it.
@@michaelandreipalon359 That's okay. I never actually read it myself, I just saw a video talking about the B1 that joined the Republic, nicknamed Bats, a while back and also looked up info about it on Wookiepedia, that sight along with great videos like the ones made by Geetsly are how I get most of my EU knowledge from stuff outside of TV and Video Games.
Ah, was it from StarForce One?
1:45: that is the COOLEST tow truck ever! where is that art from???
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Anyone who played at least 1 of the Clone Wars Era mods in Empire At War knows how much of a pain in the ass the tri droids speed was...
Congrats on 500K Geetsly! You deserve it!
I liked the fallout reference with the behemoth at 1:27
Its not so much the legs that make it better, or slower. Its the balance system. Three legs gets you static balance. Which gives stability. But changing its position is a time consuming process without a dynamic balance system to keep the vehicle upright when changing its balance point between given locations. Much like in more recent robots concepts in our reality.
Two legs requires a dynamic system for the most part. 4 legs can have both, and with an extra leg to shift it's position with, it can have the best of both worlds. But its also more moving parts to coordinate. And theres more that can go wrong.
Three legs are good for specialized situations, but what I'd love to see would be a quad walker with instead of a traditional leg for the front 2 is a single middle one that acts like a wall, allowing for infantry to be in it and ride into the battle untouched by enemy small arms fire, and them unload safely behind heavy armor, all the while the heavy front plate would still provide shelter if it is destoyed on approach
I love the AT-AT and the 2 legged walkers from the ones the clones and Windu used to the bigger and more armored ones in clone wars and empire. They're just cool.
Problem with the tri droid is that it couldn't actually move if Star Wars didn't pick and choose when physics applies to a vehicle. As soon as it lifted one foot, it would tip over as the center of mass is not over the remaining two legs
0:11 if it has eight legs then wouldn't it be octopedal?
The Combine from Half Life used the Striders, though their tech is quite different than anything from Star Wars. They were three legged and fast though not very tough, good high speed strike vehicles with a lot of firepower. The Hunters were a smaller even more mobile version.
9:48: Two... my walker is an enhanced Cosmos Colonial Army Golem from Battlezone '98.
B1 battle droid commander: "concentrate all your fire on those walkers."
I just want a LEGO AT-AP. It looks so cool and I love it so much, one of my favorite Star Wars vehicles
Congratulations on reaching a half a million subscribers Geetsly’s!
The AT-TE's six legs and lower centre of gravity is the best approach for stability. The AT-AT is the physical embodiment of the Imperial military under the Tarkin Doctrine, big and scray, but not very effective in many situations other than "run straight at the enemy, try not to die".
I've always though the AT-AT was great against opponents who lacked heavy armor of their own, it's height and low speed would make it super vulnerable to a low profile heavy tank. Can't dodge and easy to hit, but can really tear up an enemy who doesn't something with a big gun.
@@nicholastuttle2445 Tallness may be an advantage due to the lack of indirect fire capability of Star Wars guns.
Glad you pointed that about about the third leg
I'd like to see a video that goes into more detail about the Je'dai order, the precursors to the Jedi
Favorite walker ? Martian war machine , war of the worlds, 1895 . Three legs .
We need a tactical breakdown of everyone's favorite thresh commanders sev'rance tann and Admiral Thrawn. And i know you wakt to gush over thrawn more
Wow I never thought I had so much in common with a walker… my 3rd leg is also retractable and can be used for stabilization when firing
Corny joke
Octuptara (i butchered the spelling) droids are my favorite droids made by the CIS.
1:56, WTF! That’s a real world Panzer II turret. Who drew that?
“All the way up to quadrupedal”; shows 8 legged walker.
AT-TE, AT-RT and AT-AT are my favorite Walkers.
You ever seen a three-legged anything irl?
Tend to have difficulty uhhh walking.
The AT-AP looks like it would exclusively be useful as a defensive gun emplacement or as a long-range mobile artillery unit. It just doesn't fit as a proper assault walker.
Timely, considering the All-Terrain Personal Transport rant by Eckhart's Ladder (though that was a two-legged walker).
Oh, and hoorah for half a million subs!
Really sucks we never got to see the AT-AP used in the clone wars show. Always thought it was a unique design.
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With three legs, the problem is really have to keep the uplift on two otherwise can not even walk
"The third leg of the walker wasn't used for walking," -Geestlys
I'm soo childish...
The at ap is the quvalant to the m3 lee tank in ww2
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AT-AP is my fav walker of all time
🤔 I'm supprised no jokes about a retractable 3rd leg 😂😂
1:59 that is a panzer 2 German light tank turret on the top of that thing
Nien! Panzer 2
Tripods from war of the worlds then appears at coruscant
I've always called the AT-AP the "Tommy Lee", since it's technically a bipedal walker with a retractable third leg.
So, to paraphrase Animal Farm, "3-Legs awkward, 4-Legs better". Gotcha.
I love the AT-AP
The at ap only used it’s third leg for stability when firing it’s main cannon that launches artillery shells.
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The ladies call me the three legged walker
They were pretty cool
In my down-to-earth design? Well, look up the British Tank Destroyer AT-8. Now, imagine putting two wide & thick legs, designed to step onto & crawl over various barricades, modernized dragon teeth included, in towards the front. It mostly still has that tank silhouette, however its extremely heavily armored, designed to tank damage & provide support fire so that the frontline engineers can clear the barricade that it just crawled over. Its 3rd leg is basically a push it forward leg, similar to the AT-AP’s 3rd leg, but willing to update the design based on how heavy this tank-tank is…
So the more legs the walkers have, the bigger they can be? Then how can the AT-ATs in the service of the Empire can walk so smoothly despite having just four legs?
I loud the at ap. could be sniping tanks and Droid gunships from afar
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0:25 Spider tank?
Now did spiders... Exist as we know them in Star Wars?? Cuz if so, like at all, didn't they remember Spiders got 8 not 3 legs
Geestly releases a Walker video 20 minutes after Eckharts Ladder roasts the AT-PT…very sus
AT-APs are just awesome AF.
I really like the AT-AP
I feel like I can really relate with something with three legs, ya know 😏💀
Why is there a Fallout tactics Behemoth robot at 1:25?
Would love to see the at st go 90 kph...xD
Tripods worked for the Martians, right?
1:48
That thing looks terrifying. What is it?
Something fan made
in Battletech most walker have 2-4 legs there are no 3 legged or odd number legged walkers
My first reaction to the posed question.....balance issues. hr to keep something on three legs stable. Four legs better. Six legs even more better. :)
What were the Empire at War mods shown here???
Wait a second... The AT-AP has 3 legs...?!😂
Would that be octupedal for the convertible unit
3:29 what is that vehicle???
I think my favorite walker is a tie between the AT-TE and AT-AT.
AT-ST is my boy.
@@CharliMorganMusic That too.
AT AP never appearing in TCW>>>>>>Bacara only-appearing-1,4-seconds
What's the walker at 3:30 with the Stormtroopers?
So basically a cannon or sniper with big legs
The Rebellion AT-AP in my opinion is the superior version
So do Geetsly and Echhart just really hate walkers
If this is true then why was the AT-AP a playable walker in lego star wars the clone wars video game which even though it never showed it's third leg and was indeed slower than other walkers WHY was it used in a game that was made from the first two seasons of the clone wars?
Love the video but sometimes the photos shown are of walkers other than the one you are currently talking about which can be confusing for non super star nerds.
When talking about weight distribution you mis-speak saying more weight will be distributed to each leg when you should say less.
Such an obscure vehicle… and yet LEGO has made 3 of them!
Because everyone dreaded pissing off the Martians legal team.
I, too, have a "third leg".
My favorite Walker burnt up in a crash. Too soon?
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I know I’m nitpicking here…
The AT-AT is four legged and thus quadrupedal, the AT-OT has eight legs which makes it octapedal.
No offence intended.
Whats with The 3 legged Walkers of The old Republik era?
panzer 2 turret