Not my fault my parent didnt do shit about my terrible allergies and asthma and kept a cat in the house my whole childhood how was i supposed to breathe
Yeah a lot of muscles look ugly. I think the most important is having muscles in the shoulder and back area to make it appear more wide. Women like this provided you have a pretty face and tall physique.
@@JiggerjoggernoHGerBeing taller is always better but there is no denying face is more important than height. Having a beautiful face is by nature what makes a human attractive. If you don't have that you're by default, genetically speaking a looser in nature. It doesn’t matter if you have superior height but have an unattractive face. You have guys who are 6ft+ and are incels so obviously this is more than enough proof that height isn’t the most important thing, it is your face that is the most important.
Not somewhat it can take you from 5 to an 6-7 easily or even more if you have good bone structure For example Jordan looks 5 out of 10 or 6 out of 10 when he's fat and 8-9 when he lean so
at 15% my face looks fat and ugly af but 12% or lower my face looks attractive af but at 8% my jaw muscles begin to show lines like the muscle fiber from under skin which looks amazing and the buldge is good too but my cheeks make me look like a skeleton everyone has to play around with the bodyfat percentage and see what suits them best really
I don’t know if it’ll work for me. I’m 240 pounds and my jaw still is visible. When I trim my beard I can see lines coming from my cheekbones. I’m not sure if that means I have hallow cheekbones or not
Peoples saying height dosen't matter and only muscles do are overdosing on copium. Fact is good genetics are all that matters, because that is what you will pass to their off-spring.
@@Ezio999Auditore i would also say face is the most important than height (it is enough to be 2-3 inches taller than her) after that you should add a lean body
Hamza is a 4/10 in reality. Wheat Waffles gave him a 6 which I found laughable because that eye area of his is terrible. Maybe in India or Pakistan, Hamza could be a 6.
@@reylo99I don’t really see an issue with ear surgery. I myself will probably have to get ear surgery because of my messed up right ear, my ear being messed up has nothing to do with genetics either, when I was in middle school I got stung by a bee on my right ear which I believe is why my right ear developed deformed, not because of genetics, my other ear is just fine and I was never stung by a bee on my left ear.
Exactly. The skeleton is the key. Tall skeleton = height Long clavicles = wide shoulders Strong straight and forwardly grown mandible = nice jawline Forwardly grown maxilla = nice cheeks Orbital bone shape = Hunter eyes…. It’s all about the bones
it's not that brutal. 2 penguins and squirrels get born in same pack. penguins 1 gets fish the other slips on rock due to lesser body or instinct that comes from it. 2 foxes chase the squirrels 1 escapes one gets caught due to body or mind decision which stems from body. it's genetics + in people's case unnatural development from infancy to adulthood. both genes and culture (delusion) is stone set reality and no amount of hard work will completely remove it.
I'm a woman. The first thing I look at in a man is his face. The body is secondary. I also look at the body, of course, I like muscles, but normal muscles, not steroids. To find an attractive man it is not necessary to have big or marked muscles or abs like a chocolate bar. Having an athletic body, without exaggeration, is enough.
Some guys do get more attractive with massive roid bodies, but you have to be a hyper-responder and be sufficiently big in frame size that your ultimate results are to mog the bodies of most men. I think that the broadening and thickening effects of juice on the face, neck, shoulders, are enough to counteract a weak facial bone structure up to a point. You can't become very attractive though
I am a man and I also look a women face but most of the time I see that women are delusional in there men standards for what they actually look like, consider that most women hit the wall at 30 with wrinkles and cellulite and more and most men age like fine wine.
I can’t get over how bad Sulek’s skin is. His liver is probably screaming for help. Those black marks/holes on his chest, he really thinks this is worth it?
@@r.amh1400 I dont follow goatis advice, i just went intermittent fasting 4 hours a day eating, focusing on plant protein, fruits and fibre with some meat mainly fish on top of it. + i take supplements to not get deficient in anything It worked
@@r.amh1400 Well technically it doesn’t matter as long as your in a calorie deficit , but I believe this is misleading because it does certain foods will satisfy you more than others. For example a donut will spike ghrelin more than a steak. So I would eat large quantities of low calorie foods such as salads with out dressing and there is some noodles you can look it up that have zero calories. As well as eating a high protein diet this causes the least amount of spikes in hunger such as steak without the fat. You should also only drink water, but if you cant diet soda is always a good option while on a cut.
the only time i see this. is when they are ugly. they hate the bad genes they passed to their kids. beautiful people always love their kids. everyone loves them actually. humans are visual creatures. like any other. birds show their colors and spread their wings to attract females.... humans have the face and height. anything else is irrelevant
And this is because most are of the NPC population and they had children as a "retirement plan" to have someone to help them in their later and elderly years. It is a really serious problem.
20:27 Im 19 but I remember when I was younger no one really knew much about bodybuilding and it was generally seen as weird. There was this one kid in my elementary school who was training since he was about 8 or 9, he was really muscular and ripped, insanely lean too, but everyone thought it was really weird, no one admired him. Guys and girls especially were disgusted by it. But nowadays, and this is really only in the last 2 or 3 years all these boys admire bodybuilders and working out, and you are seen as weird or weak if you think bad about bodybuilding.
I am 35. 15-20 years ago people thought that you are really ripped and strong if you had Ryan Gosling's body in The Place Beyond the Pines or similar. Now days due all fake nattys this physique is considered dyel.
Muscles are only a bonus once you've actually got the girls interest already, from my own experience most women like touching and playing with my muscles (which aren't that huge, all natural) but it sure as shit ain't what attracted them in the first place lmao.
10:36 if your daughter and wife just died why tf are you on the beach trying to pick up young women this clip actually infuriates me roidcel throwing a tantrum
His rant had nothing to do with the question that the UA-camr asked too😂He completely went off on a tangent because when the girl said she wanted a skinny dude, it hurt his ego and made him feel unwanted.
he doesnt like anime. specially the animes that show mega muscular men. those shows promote the gym and steroid culture. like dragon ball z, baki etc. death note is pretty good anime, because show reality of human beings. specially the part of the looks. the protagonist get away with a lot of things because he was good looking. it has a lot of blackpill content actually.
Bro said weight training is bad for you. Honestly attraction being all in the face and your height is valid but saying that weight training is bad for you physically and mentally is ridiculous if it wasn’t for lifting weights I would have killed myself a long time ago,the amount of character growth.I have made because of weight training is insane and saying it is “not good for you” is crazy. Saying that bodybuilding can lead to body dysmorphia fine,but don’t act like any black pill dude is mentally healthier than your average gym bro. Most black pill guys literally spend all online looking at dudes faces online and talking about what women want even though 90% of them live online. I’m not saying the black pill is entirely wrong but please don’t say that weight lifting is bad for u because anyone with a brain would know that any form of exercise is good for you.
Weight training is not bad for height though, actually it boosts your height growth if you are in still puberty and your growth plates are open. This coper in the video said putting stress to your body is harmful blah blah but sprinting actually increases gh hormones in your body, which will make you taller. And another thing that i would say, athletes have way more leaner physique, more bonemass and overall athletes are better looking than normal people who don't workout. He said muscles doesn't matter for women, but there is plenty of examples that women are attracted to muscles. Some gymcells with sub5 face can get laid with ltb's maybe mtb's cuz of their aesthetic physique. Okay i agree with face is way important than your body but going to the gym or doing any sport you put stress in to your muscles basketball football soccer etc. will increase your overall smv.
@@TravisArthurParishT.A.P short people still have to be able to be physically fit enough to hunt and possibly transport the carcass of prey. being weak and sedentary will make you the first to go once crap hits the fan and civilization falls.
We're not made to sit in a chair all day, so small doses of exercises won't kill anyone. It's when you start doing it in excess like wearing heavy weights or running miles everyday that you start aging faster. Bodyweight or light weight exercises every 2/3 days + running once 2 weeks will be enough to keep you in shape if you eat healty alongside it.
Never go to failure. Never push yourself. Don't try to set records or break records. Cardio, flexibility, and stability are the three pillars that you can then build strength on top off.
If you have to force yourself to do them because it feels painful, yes they will harmful. If not then go ahead and do them, but i just don't see a scenario where someone WOULDN'T have to force themselves to do any form of exercise.
Having a beautiful face is by nature what makes a human attractive. If you don't have that you're per default, genetically speaking a looser in nature, wether you have a good physique, or you're tall wont really add to your "beauty", it'll maybe help you go from a "3" to 3,5-4 (if you're tall and have a good physique) but that's as far as it goes and anyone that says otherwise is coping, you cannot make up for an ugly face no matter what, even with a SUPERIOR diet, SUPERIOR physique and SUPERIOR height, it really will do little to nothing in terms of rating - your face is the deciding factor wether or not you are attractive and yes it's truly a harsh pillow to swallow but that's just mother nature for ya
What makes someone physically impressive, attractive, is the bones, and that includes the bones of the body. I just think of it as antlers, which are just a grandiose display, like is their face "antlers", is their skeletal frame and height "antlers"? I don't believe someone can be a Chad if they have a twisted hunchback, or be a midget Chad, the body is important too. Would you rather be 5' 3" or 6 "3? Being tall has more social benefits, other than just sexual attraction, than being short i.e. more respect from everyone, no mockery, no humiliating experiences of not being able to reach things or see things. Height is confidence. The same normie at 6' 3" will have an overall better life than if they were 5' 10". But yes, the face is most important, but the rest of the body is important as well.
as a woman, I grew up never being attracted to ANY guy in real life (completely repulsed), I only fantasized about celebrities from OLD movies. My first and only love in the real world was a man 20 years my senior. He was lean and kept in shape, but no muscles. His face had strong features (wide with strong bones) that signaled high testosterone. And his voice literally hypnotized me - so low and deep tone. He had small stretch marks on his back and when I asked him, he said he was a VERY fat baby which caused the stretch marks which leads me to believe to think the biggest factor for creating beautiful people is a very high fat diet (carnivore diet) during pregnancy and the woman shouldn't work/stress during pregnancy.
I always had a beach body when younger and attracted a lot of women, with age i gained weight and i can honestly tell you that at 6 feet and 260 pounds I was a ghost to all women, I recently lost weight after my medical doctor told me to reduce high blood pressure, I am 51 and I still got hit on a few times this year after the weight loss. Still weight loss is always good for health having fat on is never good.
The beauty of the body is genetic just like the face, men with a beautiful or aesthetic body will look good at low levels of muscularity, if you have good chest genetics for example, even if you only do some push ups here and there your chest will look better than someone with bad genetics who can bench 200kg
Honestly, I was skinny with wide straight shoulders and a V taper. Added to that I was not great looking, but most people would have said I was above average. Which in combination worked out just fine. I did well enough with the ladies.
Definitely what you inherit is what you have. Lately proper food what we are meant to eat is affecting genes to have good looking offspring. But crucial is proper food when you are born for maintaining good looking and young appearance and delaying getting older.
Bro, u should make a video like u were Made in the past "Veganism : The epitome of malnoutishment". In ur new video be like "Bodybuilding : The epitome of Detoriation/Malnourishment"
And it seems this is why so many XX's like to use gyms as hunting grounds. They love to find Men who are down on their luck, depressed and broken, because those are the perfect new loosh victims to create and feed off of. XX's like to prey on Men mostly when they are down, weak and vulnerable.
I think the best example is david laid. He is a popular guy in the fitness industry even though his physique isn’t that muscular compared to other athletes. He is just tall, has very good facial features and has wide clavicles. People try to copy his hairstyle, workouts and much more, but they don't realize that it just looks good on him because he has good genetics overall
Hmmm so interesting…this is how I felt about Jesse James west….his bod is top 1% but his face…idk I can’t place it…something is off with his face. And it always distracted me so much lol. Didn’t care about his body at all…This was before I even realized that the face is what matters 😂
His body is actually pretty ugly. Not because of muscles(well kinda) but because his clavicles are super narrow and his waist is average sized so his frame is pretty shit to began with.
A few years ago before i foolishly hurt my back lifting weights i was the most muscular dude in my scoo and it made 0 difference when it came to getting girls. I got better looking girls than i did a couple years prior when i was in my first year of hs but that wss because i grew taller and wider. If lifting helped i wouldve got girls that were significantly better looking
pov: you don't go outside and haven't developed any meaningful loving connections in life and spend your time so chronically online that this is genuinely all you know and think about regarding relationships
best comment over here. People in this comments are too dellusional maybe with their apperances or because of previous rejections. Anyway, why you'd like to be with a woman that only looks for your physique and does not care about responsability, true love and so on... You summarized in 4 lines what I needed to write in 10+ lines
@@ishrosYou can be mentally ill and still pump a girl with two kids mate. It doesn't negate that fact that this is the kind of ideology that someone that lives this life would come up with.
exactly !!! those skinny pretty boys have millions of young attractive women that want them. most of this muscular dudes are virgins or barely have sex a few times per year
@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms Kinda true but I live in SEA, I've seen a lot adult women loves kpop anywhere. That's why guys here trying to be look like kpop boys or prettyboys to attract females. It's true that having a handsome/pretty face always works than having big muscles, and being tall gives it a big boost for attracting them. Being fat and having big muscles is unattractive and it's seen as unhealthy.
@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms I agree but I want to add that some k-drama actors came from K-pop too, like cha eun-woo from astro. I know some stuff like this because my sister is a kpop and kdrama fan. And some kpop boy groups have japanese and chinese guys in it. Not all guys in kpop are korean anyways
Women are attracted to status of these guys. Plus, lot of kpop stars have high masculine dimorphism. Women are sexually attracted to high masculine dimorphism. Being pretty just give you high status.
I was training shirtless in the park a year ago and a middle aged lady approached me and started touching my back with her both hands under pretense of talking about physio therapy or some shit. She almost embraced me standing face to face. I'm not particularly handsome plus short (165 cm) so muscles do attract women. Also a woman grabbed my ass in metro train some years ago lol I attribute it to squats
I can definitely agree with this. As a lady, I don't really feel attracted to men with alot of extra muscle. I don't go for gym rats, I love a natural build on a man. Natural women look their best too, for that matter. Good looking faces definitely are important. The worst part about this video he's watching is the Lady Gaga music 😂
@jaylxxxi1908 that's great, I'm not saying you should do that for anyone but yourself...I'm just simply stating what I'm attracted to body type wise since that's a topic in the video.
Getting a ripped body will also mean that you will use the fat from your face which will make it more defined, and therefore more attractive than it otherwise would be though. A lot of these men are so attractive to women also because of their fame and the fact that they are perceived desirable by a majority of women which just feed into their attractiveness.
@Diego-uo3gi It's a balance between being too skinny and being skinny fat. Think of global bodyfat% as a slider. At some point your facial aesthetics are optimal, but that may be at the lower bound of the slider. You will look too skinny (body wise) at that point if you have no muscle. So you train a bit and especially with clothes on and without roids, you will look DYEL. Many people will not even think that you train. But you will look less skinny while still having near optimal facial aesthetics (fat tissue wise).
@@КалоянИлиев-я9тMuch agreed the point it takes me actually lean out my face is at a absurdly low body fat. Like I can have abs without flexing, striations in my shoulders and still have some facial puffiness. I have to get to ten percent body fat or below to look like I have a lean face, and when I didn’t work out I would look like a meth head I was so skinny. Working out is a necessity so you look like you are at a normal weight while being lean enough for your facial features to pop out.
Face yoga baby. Nah this is bullshit because, if you use good mind muscle connection you won't make facial expressions when lifting and crease your face up... of course to an extent it will potentially create wrinkles As for face yoga, doing face yoga and chewing hard gum and mewing will define up the face and make it more symmetrical ... I literally look younger in one year of lifting and ocassionally doing face yoga and skin care routine
You can indeed "improve" your appearance. Why do I say so ? I was an obese guy, to much fat on your face will deform those facial expresions. I got 40kg down I am still overweight butttt, I noticed it that I am "handsome" apparently. Also kinda tall for my country (183cm). I got way more attention now, I have had more sex in the last year than my entire life before. Muscles certainly don´t work at all, you just need to be lean (that´s my goal) and hope for god you have some good facial structure. You don´t need to be a 10/10, you can still find love even in 5/10. But if your face is bad I mean BAD, you are doomed.
To what extent do you think the animal fat from dairy can compete with naturally fatty meats. I cannot afford fatty meats right now so i want to know how can i compensate for it im 14 so it is pretty important.
Thank you for making a point with the taller part. It’s not that hard, my mom was super attractive and my dad isn’t that tall, he’s only maybe 1.71 m but she’s shorter than he is and he also was very attractive… so you don’t have to have a ripped body. Gyms didn’t even exist until recently. Not in their country at least.
U should review "I Ate Like Dr. Greger For 7 Days" Video by "the vegan gym". The craziest garbage I've ever seen, Dr Powder giving vegan guy food he hates for a week.
Interesting- I'd say it's very true that most women are not attracted to muscles. For me- I find it can be a complete turn off. I turned down a completely amazing, facially attractive man once simply because he's such a gym rat with huge muscles I didn't think it was fair to him that I found it to be a turn off and I'd never ask him to change himself. So I turned him down. But as far as natural attraction- for me a tall big bone man can be unattractive because I'm petite and I get a natural gut reaction that he would give me big babies that might be difficult to birth- I'm personally more attracted to a man just a little taller than me and not big boned. Yes I'd need to feel he's facially attracttve- especially the eyes. I do enjoy a beard and some body hair. Then if he's really kind and family oriented and a hard worker- I find that attractive. That's my opinion.
I don't think anyone altered by surgery either in face or body ends up looking better. I do understand some people get reconstructive procedures done, deviated septums, accidents, etc..some plastic surgery does improve quality of life for some. But the people that change too much end up looking really weird
Mijn man is veel te zwaar maar heeft altijd aandacht van meiden. Gewoon gezicht en houding. Zelfs ten opzichte van jongere collega’s die dan ook nog wanhopig zijn en overkomen.
I admire a lot that you say regardless if I agree with all of it or not because I happen to 90% of the time, could you look at movement patterns by GOATA and give your opinion if they are selling BS or they know what they are talking about? blackpilled community is so cringe and toxic yeah a lot of guys are more attractive than you but you can go be successful and have a chance 😂 you’re not doomed you’re mentally ill.
We like natural muscles like the muscles men naturally have maybe because of working and doing some activity outside, cause men have a lean body naturally and more muscle mass than women, that's why we are attracted to that it's human nature just like men are attracted to curves BUT we don't like those steroid muscles certainly we dislike narcisstic men on steroids hitting the gym 24/7... And yes we look at the face mostly, for example I notice the eyes a lot, usually I'm attracted to blue eyes and blonde/red hair but I've been attracted to grey hair too so we have some preferences but we look at the face mostly, the height is not important as many men think, of course we like tall men but it's not the first thing we notice, I've had crushes on relatively short/average guys several times in my life also the chemistry you have with a person is even more important, there are many conventionally attractive men I don't feel attracted to cause women are stimulated by the emotional bond and chemistry the most, men should work on personality more than the gym and create the right stimulating relationship with a woman, working on the mind and tugging on the heartstrings.
what are your thoughts on things that arent genetic but still might affect looks like crooked teeth, acne, etc., do they really count as much if the genetics are good?
What the real key with working out is focusing on the width of ones body. Thats why one person might be called a gymcel vs someone who works out for asthetics. Grow the deltoids. Your back and forearms. The rest is purely personal for your goals.
I am a 67 year old power lifter and fitness trainer and I have been working out for over 50 years. I weigh 80 kilos and I'm muscular I don't exercise to impress women I exercise for myself. I'm strong and healthy for my age and I look younger than my age.
Does not make any sense, so if your face is not attractive, you don't go to the gym?, They like the guys from hollywood not only from the face but the lean physique as well, one complete the other, only attractive face or only attractive physique is not enough.
sometimes make it worse xdd most young attractive women have a fantasy of being with a young, tall, skinny man. not a muscular dude... only men have that fantasy. gay men
After 6:10, i had this beautiful slovakian girl telling me she wanted to climb my arms like a tree so idk abt impressing a girl with the size of your biceps, but also I mean, I am 187 cm tall, lean and athletic, long yet black curly hair with hunter eyes and a deep voice, so maybe yeah it has not much to do with that I workout, but working out gave a better shape to my face and made my voice deeper so idk
He's a UA-camr that does blackpill and lookism content. He has some interesting things to say. He once went by IncelTV (or ITV for short) on a previous UA-cam channel.
This is both true and false. True that if you're ugly in the face girls wont like you regardless, but being in shape helps you at your level. I'm a 4 in the face and an 8 in the body. So, when I go after a woman that's a 3, I'm going to look better than the other guys at that level, and im going to score. Guys there's 3 things to do when you are unattractive: get in shape, get money, get a fat chick. That's it. Or be a billionaire, but that's not going to happen.
What you said at the end really blew my mind. I never understood why I got so lost in video games and then the gym growing up but now it makes sense. A lot of men are struggling to find meaning in their life and are coping with some kind of trauma from bullying, child neglect, heartbreak, insecurity etc and the gym community is preying on these men which only makes things worse. It's sad.
buddy mmuscles do help but not to the degree some dudes think also till the natty limit it is ok beyond that it is gross for most women very very niche women might like that i mean very niche not for most most will say too much
10:14 That guy is so insecure, and passive aggressive beyond belief....Even other guys, as long as they are real men; wouldn't want to be around someone like that....
Hey Goatis or anyone what’s the best way to maximise eye area? I know it’s sleep and eating fats but is there anything else? I was thinking applying beef tallow or duck fat to under eye area. Any advice?
You can’t change your eye shape because that’s genetic. You can improve maxilla development through surgical procedures and the forward growth of the maxilla will give your eyes more under eye support, make it look deeper set, and push it up closer to your eyebrows reducing the uee and making your eye brows look more close set. You can use eyelash curlers to make ur eyes looks more “pretty”. Also darken your eyebrows if they’re light and shape them. For me personally I have large eye orbits but since my eye brows are lower set and dark my eye area looks decent. My naturally long eyelashes also help cover up the more bug eye look I have. In fact my eyes would look bad if I had hunter eyes becaude it would mess up my facial harmony.
use honey and coffee on a mix. put it in the fridge to be cold. then apply it twice per day. never drink the coffee. but with honey it helps hydrate the area and make you look younger
@@washi8267 I was talking about eye area not changing your facial shape. I’m talking about under eye bags and eliminating them completely. However good idea on the eyelashes and eyebrows, great advice.
@@reylo99i think wheat waffles even rated himself like a 7 or 8 out of ten. he cant rate. hamza is no higher than a 5 although maybe in his home country is higher
Guys it won't make you competitive to Chris Hemsworth, but having an average to sub average face with a fit body is definitely better than having the same face with obese or skinny body. You need a good physical shape so your clothes fit good on you, and a good body looks good in any type of clothes. We should just try to do our best. Nobody expects us to look like roid freaks.
17:53 thats how hamza looks in reality. he is 4/10. he uses filters in videos and modifies most of his pictures all the time. specially the eye area, he is starting to look in his early 40s and he is like barely 26-27
It's funny how Wheat Waffles rated Hamza a 6. He's more like a 4 or so like you said if not really ugly. He may have gotten surgery to fix his ear, but there is no surgery that'll fix his protruding bug eyes. Maybe in India or Pakistan, he'd be a 6 since South Asian man usually aren't that attractive.
@@frederico-d3lyeah, it's crazy how aged he actually appears. He said he was a late bloomer in puberty and people will often say that late bloomers age well. That doesn't seem to be the case for Hamza. I wonder how he'll look in 10 yrs let alone 20 yrs from now.
@@reylo99 well in 10 years or 20 years we will all probably look like *** compared to today that most of us are young. its just how nature works. but this gymcels destroy their youth... some dudes start the gym and roids at 20, and at 25 they look literally 40 years old... they ruin their life completely. women love youth and a good skin quality.... steroids destroy that !
You have one of the most "unique" views I saw this year or probably in many years. Quite interesting because it makes me think (not saying I agree or disagree but you made me think a lot) Thank you
I go to the gym . Not only is everyone aging faster but they are scared of viruses still here. These gym adults are completely broken. Muscular but afraid
I read a study that said our generation is aging faster than previous ones (biological age measured with the help of „biomarkers“). The context was a rise of cancer since the 90s in people below the age of 50. Whatever is done to us, it needs to stop if humanity wants to get through the Great Filter.
Prime example is Alain Delon arguably the most handsome man ever. Not a single women gave a shit about his body, he never was muscular either. He had incredible handsome face and that’s why women were obsessed with him. Good bone structure, good genes and more importantly pretty face. Blue piercing eyes
@@ben-ben2366yeah sunbathed too much is not good because of sunburn but It’s not dangerous or bad for a human. A human being needs sun thru his skin and eyes as well. Delon started aging fast at like 40 because of a lot of smoking and drinking. I think if he didn’t do those things he would have kept his looks longer
@@ben-ben2366 And he aged like milk (not just due to drinking and smoking), so not a good example. Also, JFL about him not being muscular. He looked like a natty DYEL lifter. Most men who train naturally 5+ years and get to his bodyfat% for facial aesthetics will have a similar to his physique.
I think bodybuilding can improve your facial features and can in some cases (in my case ) give you hollow cheeks. But in the same time aware that there of course limitations. But within your looks level girls can before attracted to you…
Never skip face day! 🤣
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Not my fault my parent didnt do shit about my terrible allergies and asthma and kept a cat in the house my whole childhood how was i supposed to breathe
Good-looking parents make face
@@SPACEDOUT19 what they feed you don’t change your bone structure
💯 #blackpill
Women like a tall, lean physique with a healthy amount of muscles _provided_ you have an attractive face
Yeah a lot of muscles look ugly. I think the most important is having muscles in the shoulder and back area to make it appear more wide. Women like this provided you have a pretty face and tall physique.
@JohnJoatancope.
@JohnJoatanHeight is 100 times more important than muscles.
stop the gym dwarf
@qwerty37381I’m 17% bodyfat, don’t see my face changing much leaning down to 10% since i’m boneless and recessed.
@@JiggerjoggernoHGerBeing taller is always better but there is no denying face is more important than height. Having a beautiful face is by nature what makes a human attractive. If you don't have that you're by default, genetically speaking a looser in nature. It doesn’t matter if you have superior height but have an unattractive face. You have guys who are 6ft+ and are incels so obviously this is more than enough proof that height isn’t the most important thing, it is your face that is the most important.
> money isn’t real
> 200 dollars for a 1 hr vidcall consultation
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so is the point of this channel just to shit on people and put people down?
Send me your money. I'm a Nigerian Prince
Money still isn't real though you can participate in the slave system and acknowledge it's all fake.
Losing weight can help your face somewhat if you are overweight
Not somewhat it can take you from 5 to an 6-7 easily or even more if you have good bone structure
For example Jordan looks 5 out of 10 or 6 out of 10 when he's fat and 8-9 when he lean so
at 15% my face looks fat and ugly af but 12% or lower my face looks attractive af but at 8% my jaw muscles begin to show lines like the muscle fiber from under skin which looks amazing and the buldge is good too but my cheeks make me look like a skeleton
everyone has to play around with the bodyfat percentage and see what suits them best really
Of course, obesity is unnatural it is created by a bad diet and overeating.
I got my girl that way
I don’t know if it’ll work for me. I’m 240 pounds and my jaw still is visible. When I trim my beard I can see lines coming from my cheekbones. I’m not sure if that means I have hallow cheekbones or not
Peoples saying height dosen't matter and only muscles do are overdosing on copium. Fact is good genetics are all that matters, because that is what you will pass to their off-spring.
It’s not that height doesn’t matter, but why focus on something you can’t change
Face is the most important thing.
@@Ezio999Auditore i would also say face is the most important than height (it is enough to be 2-3 inches taller than her) after that you should add a lean body
Man that picture of Hamza made me laugh out loud
Hamza is a 4/10 in reality. Wheat Waffles gave him a 6 which I found laughable because that eye area of his is terrible. Maybe in India or Pakistan, Hamza could be a 6.
@@reylo99Yea he looks terrible especially the dumbo ears and bug eyes. Only brown people rate him above average.
@@AryanDuty14he actually had surgery on his ear, but no surgery will fix his eyes.
@@reylo99I don’t really see an issue with ear surgery. I myself will probably have to get ear surgery because of my messed up right ear, my ear being messed up has nothing to do with genetics either, when I was in middle school I got stung by a bee on my right ear which I believe is why my right ear developed deformed, not because of genetics, my other ear is just fine and I was never stung by a bee on my left ear.
@@reylo99or the fact he’s a scumbag
NO GYM FOR YOUR FACE
No anything for your face if it's unattractive.
Don't be a free agent in life.
mewing, massage, make faces. At least the muscles tighten up a bit...
@@TravisArthurParishT.A.Ptrue
Chewing gristle will exercise your jaw and help a bit with definition
@@kaisalis7895 gristle……… what are you an ogre ?
It's all about your bones not your muscles. Brutal reality
Exactly. The skeleton is the key. Tall skeleton = height
Long clavicles = wide shoulders
Strong straight and forwardly grown mandible = nice jawline
Forwardly grown maxilla = nice cheeks
Orbital bone shape = Hunter eyes….
It’s all about the bones
it's not that brutal. 2 penguins and squirrels get born in same pack. penguins 1 gets fish the other slips on rock due to lesser body or instinct that comes from it. 2 foxes chase the squirrels 1 escapes one gets caught due to body or mind decision which stems from body.
it's genetics + in people's case unnatural development from infancy to adulthood. both genes and culture (delusion) is stone set reality and no amount of hard work will completely remove it.
@@TheLastOutlaw289BROOOOTAL
skeletonmaxxing
Isn’t better to have good bone structure and a good physique?
I'm a woman. The first thing I look at in a man is his face. The body is secondary. I also look at the body, of course, I like muscles, but normal muscles, not steroids. To find an attractive man it is not necessary to have big or marked muscles or abs like a chocolate bar. Having an athletic body, without exaggeration, is enough.
Shut up
You don't love the man you love his bones and meat on his head
Some guys do get more attractive with massive roid bodies, but you have to be a hyper-responder and be sufficiently big in frame size that your ultimate results are to mog the bodies of most men. I think that the broadening and thickening effects of juice on the face, neck, shoulders, are enough to counteract a weak facial bone structure up to a point. You can't become very attractive though
I am a man and I also look a women face but most of the time I see that women are delusional in there men standards for what they actually look like, consider that most women hit the wall at 30 with wrinkles and cellulite and more and most men age like fine wine.
I WILL CITATE WHAT YOU SAID " abs like a chocolate bar." man are you fricking deranged or something
I can’t get over how bad Sulek’s skin is. His liver is probably screaming for help. Those black marks/holes on his chest, he really thinks this is worth it?
I used to be a gymcell, then i went completely opposite way, trying to make my face look attractive, it worked better.
And i also got lean as hell too
Same
what diet changes to get lean ?
@@r.amh1400 I dont follow goatis advice, i just went intermittent fasting 4 hours a day eating, focusing on plant protein, fruits and fibre with some meat mainly fish on top of it.
+ i take supplements to not get deficient in anything
It worked
dude the way you said it lol
what opposite way you mean you became lean heroin junkie
@@r.amh1400 Well technically it doesn’t matter as long as your in a calorie deficit , but I believe this is misleading because it does certain foods will satisfy you more than others. For example a donut will spike ghrelin more than a steak. So I would eat large quantities of low calorie foods such as salads with out dressing and there is some noodles you can look it up that have zero calories. As well as eating a high protein diet this causes the least amount of spikes in hunger such as steak without the fat. You should also only drink water, but if you cant diet soda is always a good option while on a cut.
Hardmaxxing will get you much further than gym maxxing. Save up for jaw surgery, eye surgery whatever your flaws that holding you back are get fixed.
Y'all just making things up at this point, have you just even stopped to think why this is all for?
@@shakey3306 Nothing made up. Only the truth.
@@portman8909that could work, but you would be tricking your future wife or husband especially if you are wanting to have kids with her or him.
@@shakey3306looking better is def not make believe you’re just buggin
@@burlapjack1464Gettin surgery and lying not only to yourself but to your potential wife? You're kids will not look like that, so what's the point.
Most parents don’t show true love towards their kids. Sad but true specially now days. Good video.
the only time i see this. is when they are ugly.
they hate the bad genes they passed to their kids.
beautiful people always love their kids. everyone loves them actually.
humans are visual creatures. like any other.
birds show their colors and spread their wings to attract females....
humans have the face and height. anything else is irrelevant
And this is because most are of the NPC population and they had children as a "retirement plan" to have someone to help them in their later and elderly years. It is a really serious problem.
Damn you’re right, fkn boomers man…
20:27 Im 19 but I remember when I was younger no one really knew much about bodybuilding and it was generally seen as weird. There was this one kid in my elementary school who was training since he was about 8 or 9, he was really muscular and ripped, insanely lean too, but everyone thought it was really weird, no one admired him. Guys and girls especially were disgusted by it. But nowadays, and this is really only in the last 2 or 3 years all these boys admire bodybuilders and working out, and you are seen as weird or weak if you think bad about bodybuilding.
Young men are the bulk of the redpillers. Always have been, always will be, it's the delusion of youth.
I am 35. 15-20 years ago people thought that you are really ripped and strong if you had Ryan Gosling's body in The Place Beyond the Pines or similar. Now days due all fake nattys this physique is considered dyel.
do these people never go outside?? theres plenty of not very attractive guys in happy relationships. stop projecting your misery
Really tho 😂😂
He lost me at 10:06
just because youre in a relationship dosent mean the woman treating them as she would a chad. Stop coping.
@@Diego-uo3gi You're delusional if you think a dirty homeless "handsome" man will get women drooling over him.
@@dstmessenger5803plenty of evidence that chads are more attractive to men than women.
Muscles are only a bonus once you've actually got the girls interest already, from my own experience most women like touching and playing with my muscles (which aren't that huge, all natural) but it sure as shit ain't what attracted them in the first place lmao.
10:36 if your daughter and wife just died why tf are you on the beach trying to pick up young women this clip actually infuriates me roidcel throwing a tantrum
That dude was coping big time indeed.
His rant had nothing to do with the question that the UA-camr asked too😂He completely went off on a tangent because when the girl said she wanted a skinny dude, it hurt his ego and made him feel unwanted.
Link to original vid?
And then blud says he's "pure" afterwards 😌🤣 because nothing screams pure like exploiting your family's death for sympathy.
But Goatis. Anime doesn’t exsist in nature.
I'm writing you in my death note lil bro 😈😈😈😈
Comments don't exist in nature hypocrite.
he doesnt like anime. specially the animes that show mega muscular men. those shows promote the gym and steroid culture. like dragon ball z, baki etc.
death note is pretty good anime, because show reality of human beings.
specially the part of the looks.
the protagonist get away with a lot of things because he was good looking.
it has a lot of blackpill content actually.
@@diglo123death note was so good!!!
@@GoatisReviews I’m joking around. 😂
Bro said weight training is bad for you. Honestly attraction being all in the face and your height is valid but saying that weight training is bad for you physically and mentally is ridiculous if it wasn’t for lifting weights I would have killed myself a long time ago,the amount of character growth.I have made because of weight training is insane and saying it is “not good for you” is crazy. Saying that bodybuilding can lead to body dysmorphia fine,but don’t act like any black pill dude is mentally healthier than your average gym bro. Most black pill guys literally spend all online looking at dudes faces online and talking about what women want even though 90% of them live online. I’m not saying the black pill is entirely wrong but please don’t say that weight lifting is bad for u because anyone with a brain would know that any form of exercise is good for you.
Weight training is not bad for height though, actually it boosts your height growth if you are in still puberty and your growth plates are open. This coper in the video said putting stress to your body is harmful blah blah but sprinting actually increases gh hormones in your body, which will make you taller. And another thing that i would say, athletes have way more leaner physique, more bonemass and overall athletes are better looking than normal people who don't workout. He said muscles doesn't matter for women, but there is plenty of examples that women are attracted to muscles. Some gymcells with sub5 face can get laid with ltb's maybe mtb's cuz of their aesthetic physique. Okay i agree with face is way important than your body but going to the gym or doing any sport you put stress in to your muscles basketball football soccer etc. will increase your overall smv.
Do you think push ups, pull ups, and stretching are harmful? I think they are practical movements that keep your body more capable
@@TravisArthurParishT.A.P short people still have to be able to be physically fit enough to hunt and possibly transport the carcass of prey. being weak and sedentary will make you the first to go once crap hits the fan and civilization falls.
We're not made to sit in a chair all day, so small doses of exercises won't kill anyone. It's when you start doing it in excess like wearing heavy weights or running miles everyday that you start aging faster.
Bodyweight or light weight exercises every 2/3 days + running once 2 weeks will be enough to keep you in shape if you eat healty alongside it.
Never go to failure. Never push yourself. Don't try to set records or break records. Cardio, flexibility, and stability are the three pillars that you can then build strength on top off.
@@Cesare-Borgia Many hunter-gatherers were running many miles when hunting
If you have to force yourself to do them because it feels painful, yes they will harmful. If not then go ahead and do them, but i just don't see a scenario where someone WOULDN'T have to force themselves to do any form of exercise.
Good ol' blackpill goatis is back. NIce.
@@TravisArthurParishT.A.P nah i've seen him make very blackpilled takes before. normally he doesnt go too far on youtube but on telegram yeah
@@TravisArthurParishT.A.P same thing
Having a beautiful face is by nature what makes a human attractive. If you don't have that you're per default, genetically speaking a looser in nature, wether you have a good physique, or you're tall wont really add to your "beauty", it'll maybe help you go from a "3" to 3,5-4 (if you're tall and have a good physique) but that's as far as it goes and anyone that says otherwise is coping, you cannot make up for an ugly face no matter what, even with a SUPERIOR diet, SUPERIOR physique and SUPERIOR height, it really will do little to nothing in terms of rating - your face is the deciding factor wether or not you are attractive and yes it's truly a harsh pillow to swallow but that's just mother nature for ya
100%, height only makes you more attractive if you have a beautiful face. Being 6ft+ won’t help you if you have an ugly face.
A harsh pillow for real 😂
I totally disagree height, confidence and personality can make a difference
What makes someone physically impressive, attractive, is the bones, and that includes the bones of the body. I just think of it as antlers, which are just a grandiose display, like is their face "antlers", is their skeletal frame and height "antlers"? I don't believe someone can be a Chad if they have a twisted hunchback, or be a midget Chad, the body is important too. Would you rather be 5' 3" or 6 "3? Being tall has more social benefits, other than just sexual attraction, than being short i.e. more respect from everyone, no mockery, no humiliating experiences of not being able to reach things or see things. Height is confidence. The same normie at 6' 3" will have an overall better life than if they were 5' 10". But yes, the face is most important, but the rest of the body is important as well.
Losers spell loser, "looser".
Kids ranqe comes in with the freaking g maul ma boi raw milk ftw
as a woman, I grew up never being attracted to ANY guy in real life (completely repulsed), I only fantasized about celebrities from OLD movies. My first and only love in the real world was a man 20 years my senior. He was lean and kept in shape, but no muscles. His face had strong features (wide with strong bones) that signaled high testosterone. And his voice literally hypnotized me - so low and deep tone. He had small stretch marks on his back and when I asked him, he said he was a VERY fat baby which caused the stretch marks which leads me to believe to think the biggest factor for creating beautiful people is a very high fat diet (carnivore diet) during pregnancy and the woman shouldn't work/stress during pregnancy.
I always had a beach body when younger and attracted a lot of women, with age i gained weight and i can honestly tell you that at 6 feet and 260 pounds I was a ghost to all women, I recently lost weight after my medical doctor told me to reduce high blood pressure, I am 51 and I still got hit on a few times this year after the weight loss.
Still weight loss is always good for health having fat on is never good.
The beauty of the body is genetic just like the face, men with a beautiful or aesthetic body will look good at low levels of muscularity, if you have good chest genetics for example, even if you only do some push ups here and there your chest will look better than someone with bad genetics who can bench 200kg
Honestly, I was skinny with wide straight shoulders and a V taper. Added to that I was not great looking, but most people would have said I was above average. Which in combination worked out just fine. I did well enough with the ladies.
Definitely what you inherit is what you have. Lately proper food what we are meant to eat is affecting genes to have good looking offspring. But crucial is proper food when you are born for maintaining good looking and young appearance and delaying getting older.
I am naturally face maxed. Now the gym body is just the cherry on top. But I'm not gonna overdue since i want to keep a model look
Bro, u should make a video like u were Made in the past "Veganism : The epitome of malnoutishment".
In ur new video be like "Bodybuilding : The epitome of Detoriation/Malnourishment"
good idea
some before/after clips would be very interesting seeing how fast bodybuilders are aging
@@Adidas_der_schwanger_war there some doctor who do animal based diet that encourages people that got osteoporosis to go to the gym
That would be an interesting video and perhaps even a series.
@@Adidas_der_schwanger_waryeah....
this tiktok and youtube young kids doing steroids will regret it a lot in 3-5 years....
they will look 45 at 25
seeing a person with beauty is like looking at fine art, if you are good looking you will bring out people emotions.
Love the homage to the runescape PKing days
Many broken people go the the gym.
And it seems this is why so many XX's like to use gyms as hunting grounds. They love to find Men who are down on their luck, depressed and broken, because those are the perfect new loosh victims to create and feed off of. XX's like to prey on Men mostly when they are down, weak and vulnerable.
This is true.
I think the best example is david laid. He is a popular guy in the fitness industry even though his physique isn’t that muscular compared to other athletes. He is just tall, has very good facial features and has wide clavicles. People try to copy his hairstyle, workouts and much more, but they don't realize that it just looks good on him because he has good genetics overall
Hmmm so interesting…this is how I felt about Jesse James west….his bod is top 1% but his face…idk I can’t place it…something is off with his face. And it always distracted me so much lol. Didn’t care about his body at all…This was before I even realized that the face is what matters 😂
Yeah that guy it's like his jaw line and lip area are messed up. He looks funny
He does look odd, but it's not like he's some 2/10 subhuman trash.
his face is okay but he would look much better without his mucles.
he is like too try hard and femenine xd
i think that dude is gay
His body is actually pretty ugly. Not because of muscles(well kinda) but because his clavicles are super narrow and his waist is average sized so his frame is pretty shit to began with.
Came here from antigym on reddit haha
I checked it out too!
Wait a Minute..... goatis is on reddit too?
The thumbnail is hilarious
A few years ago before i foolishly hurt my back lifting weights i was the most muscular dude in my scoo and it made 0 difference when it came to getting girls. I got better looking girls than i did a couple years prior when i was in my first year of hs but that wss because i grew taller and wider. If lifting helped i wouldve got girls that were significantly better looking
pov: you don't go outside and haven't developed any meaningful loving connections in life and spend your time so chronically online that this is genuinely all you know and think about regarding relationships
best comment over here. People in this comments are too dellusional maybe with their apperances or because of previous rejections.
Anyway, why you'd like to be with a woman that only looks for your physique and does not care about responsability, true love and so on...
You summarized in 4 lines what I needed to write in 10+ lines
@@CanalRD i can summarise it even better: go the fuck outside
he has 2 kids so your point is meaningless
All these black pill bums are miserable
@@ishrosYou can be mentally ill and still pump a girl with two kids mate. It doesn't negate that fact that this is the kind of ideology that someone that lives this life would come up with.
I love the internet, you get the best of all worlds 😂😂
Another reason why kpop is popular. The guys are pretty but skinny
exactly !!!
those skinny pretty boys have millions of young attractive women that want them.
most of this muscular dudes are virgins or barely have sex a few times per year
It’s mainly for the platonic friend energy they give off.
@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms Kinda true but I live in SEA, I've seen a lot adult women loves kpop anywhere. That's why guys here trying to be look like kpop boys or prettyboys to attract females. It's true that having a handsome/pretty face always works than having big muscles, and being tall gives it a big boost for attracting them. Being fat and having big muscles is unattractive and it's seen as unhealthy.
@@JohnMcAfee-se9ms I agree but I want to add that some k-drama actors came from K-pop too, like cha eun-woo from astro. I know some stuff like this because my sister is a kpop and kdrama fan. And some kpop boy groups have japanese and chinese guys in it. Not all guys in kpop are korean anyways
Women are attracted to status of these guys. Plus, lot of kpop stars have high masculine dimorphism. Women are sexually attracted to high masculine dimorphism. Being pretty just give you high status.
women like muscles but not the steroid size
@@TravisArthurParishT.A.P it's mainly just abs, just stay lean
I was training shirtless in the park a year ago and a middle aged lady approached me and started touching my back with her both hands under pretense of talking about physio therapy or some shit. She almost embraced me standing face to face. I'm not particularly handsome plus short (165 cm) so muscles do attract women. Also a woman grabbed my ass in metro train some years ago lol I attribute it to squats
I can definitely agree with this.
As a lady, I don't really feel attracted to men with alot of extra muscle. I don't go for gym rats, I love a natural build on a man. Natural women look their best too, for that matter. Good looking faces definitely are important.
The worst part about this video he's watching is the Lady Gaga music 😂
@jaylxxxi1908 that's great, I'm not saying you should do that for anyone but yourself...I'm just simply stating what I'm attracted to body type wise since that's a topic in the video.
@@oteprous comment sections are for people's opinions, so that's what I did. Does a stranger's opinion matter that much to you? Lol
@@IndigoRoses7 And what's wrong with the song tho 🤔
@thejesuswin4738 it's just kind of an odd choice when it's showing a bunch of guys with muscles. It's not a big deal lol
The most attractive men are not the ones that get the women, it is the ones that dominate other men that get most of the women. Its been studied.
Once I watched a black pill video like this and the comments section was full of people calling the person who runs the UA-cam chanel insecure.
@qwerty37381 exactly! they think it would sound insecure to call someone better than themselves
"all my gay friends have abs" Fatality to gymcels.
abs or any muscle only works if you are chad.
if you are ugly, you are a FREAK
this man who runs this youtube channel IS insecure
@@codzboy74😂
Getting a ripped body will also mean that you will use the fat from your face which will make it more defined, and therefore more attractive than it otherwise would be though. A lot of these men are so attractive to women also because of their fame and the fact that they are perceived desirable by a majority of women which just feed into their attractiveness.
@Diego-uo3gi It's a balance between being too skinny and being skinny fat. Think of global bodyfat% as a slider. At some point your facial aesthetics are optimal, but that may be at the lower bound of the slider. You will look too skinny (body wise) at that point if you have no muscle.
So you train a bit and especially with clothes on and without roids, you will look DYEL. Many people will not even think that you train. But you will look less skinny while still having near optimal facial aesthetics (fat tissue wise).
@@КалоянИлиев-я9тMuch agreed the point it takes me actually lean out my face is at a absurdly low body fat. Like I can have abs without flexing, striations in my shoulders and still have some facial puffiness. I have to get to ten percent body fat or below to look like I have a lean face, and when I didn’t work out I would look like a meth head I was so skinny. Working out is a necessity so you look like you are at a normal weight while being lean enough for your facial features to pop out.
1/10 Before
1.25/10 After
0:45
Face yoga baby. Nah this is bullshit because, if you use good mind muscle connection you won't make facial expressions when lifting and crease your face up... of course to an extent it will potentially create wrinkles
As for face yoga, doing face yoga and chewing hard gum and mewing will define up the face and make it more symmetrical ... I literally look younger in one year of lifting and ocassionally doing face yoga and skin care routine
You can indeed "improve" your appearance. Why do I say so ? I was an obese guy, to much fat on your face will deform those facial expresions. I got 40kg down I am still overweight butttt, I noticed it that I am "handsome" apparently. Also kinda tall for my country (183cm). I got way more attention now, I have had more sex in the last year than my entire life before. Muscles certainly don´t work at all, you just need to be lean (that´s my goal) and hope for god you have some good facial structure. You don´t need to be a 10/10, you can still find love even in 5/10. But if your face is bad I mean BAD, you are doomed.
To what extent do you think the animal fat from dairy can compete with naturally fatty meats. I cannot afford fatty meats right now so i want to know how can i compensate for it im 14 so it is pretty important.
It's similar except that you get growth hormones from dairy but at 14 that's not even so bad. It may make you grow taller.
@@GoatisReviews can it work for 19 year old?
@barteklewandowski297 Yes boi.
@bilalsyed8392 You don't know how tall you would be without it. Also raw milk works best.
Too much dairy gives you man boobs, don't use it regularly. Eat legumes...
There is a correlation between going to the gym regularly and living longer.
An inverse correlation
Gymcel Cope
Simply because if you are going to the gym you are already more committed to eating better and living healthier
@@tomatofarmerlarry3331 Yeah, that could be the case, but if you then start eating more grains and vegetables, you've been double-tricked 😂
The more you work (including work out), the uglier you are and the earlier you die.
Thank you for making a point with the taller part. It’s not that hard, my mom was super attractive and my dad isn’t that tall, he’s only maybe 1.71 m but she’s shorter than he is and he also was very attractive… so you don’t have to have a ripped body. Gyms didn’t even exist until recently. Not in their country at least.
in order of importance
women want: face, height, status, body
men want: face, body, height, status
men want body only, really and willing to lower his standards virtually at any time for a crumb of puss
status is irrelevant lol who cares about that
if body was irrelevant fat or anorexic people would be attractive but they arent
but standards exist
What about hard manual labor jobs? They put on a lot of stress on body. It doesn’t feel natural to do it all day long.
U should review "I Ate Like Dr. Greger For 7 Days" Video by "the vegan gym". The craziest garbage I've ever seen, Dr Powder giving vegan guy food he hates for a week.
" natural selection is about selecting adaptive genes, not selecting roids abuse " Charles Darwin
Interesting- I'd say it's very true that most women are not attracted to muscles. For me- I find it can be a complete turn off. I turned down a completely amazing, facially attractive man once simply because he's such a gym rat with huge muscles I didn't think it was fair to him that I found it to be a turn off and I'd never ask him to change himself. So I turned him down. But as far as natural attraction- for me a tall big bone man can be unattractive because I'm petite and I get a natural gut reaction that he would give me big babies that might be difficult to birth- I'm personally more attracted to a man just a little taller than me and not big boned. Yes I'd need to feel he's facially attracttve- especially the eyes. I do enjoy a beard and some body hair. Then if he's really kind and family oriented and a hard worker- I find that attractive. That's my opinion.
I forgot to say that it's not certain features for me- a healthy man with a glow in his eyes is very attractive
Men compliment handsome men more than women do lol Women like themselves! never forget that men..
An unattractive face can be fixed, but not with a Gym, but with plastic surgery exists, only to have money. Money can fix everything
brb buying new DNA that's inside every cell in my body
even with that , u wont look that good .
Then your kids come out like 🧟♂️🧟♀️🧌👩🏿😂
Most just end up looking like a lizard with plastic surgery. Now hair implants, dental implants yes. But also a full beard can help
I don't think anyone altered by surgery either in face or body ends up looking better. I do understand some people get reconstructive procedures done, deviated septums, accidents, etc..some plastic surgery does improve quality of life for some.
But the people that change too much end up looking really weird
Mijn man is veel te zwaar maar heeft altijd aandacht van meiden. Gewoon gezicht en houding. Zelfs ten opzichte van jongere collega’s die dan ook nog wanhopig zijn en overkomen.
HONESTLY BRUTAL
I admire a lot that you say regardless if I agree with all of it or not because I happen to 90% of the time, could you look at movement patterns by GOATA and give your opinion if they are selling BS or they know what they are talking about?
blackpilled community is so cringe and toxic yeah a lot of guys are more attractive than you but you can go be successful and have a chance 😂 you’re not doomed you’re mentally ill.
We like natural muscles like the muscles men naturally have maybe because of working and doing some activity outside, cause men have a lean body naturally and more muscle mass than women, that's why we are attracted to that it's human nature just like men are attracted to curves BUT we don't like those steroid muscles certainly we dislike narcisstic men on steroids hitting the gym 24/7... And yes we look at the face mostly, for example I notice the eyes a lot, usually I'm attracted to blue eyes and blonde/red hair but I've been attracted to grey hair too so we have some preferences but we look at the face mostly, the height is not important as many men think, of course we like tall men but it's not the first thing we notice, I've had crushes on relatively short/average guys several times in my life also the chemistry you have with a person is even more important, there are many conventionally attractive men I don't feel attracted to cause women are stimulated by the emotional bond and chemistry the most, men should work on personality more than the gym and create the right stimulating relationship with a woman, working on the mind and tugging on the heartstrings.
No Gym for Face
what are your thoughts on things that arent genetic but still might affect looks like crooked teeth, acne, etc., do they really count as much if the genetics are good?
Those are genetic?
What the real key with working out is focusing on the width of ones body. Thats why one person might be called a gymcel vs someone who works out for asthetics. Grow the deltoids. Your back and forearms. The rest is purely personal for your goals.
Yo I didn't expect to see you here. I remember hearing about you trying reeves shrugs for frame did it work?
I am a 67 year old power lifter and fitness trainer and I have been working out for over 50 years. I weigh 80 kilos and I'm muscular I don't exercise to impress women I exercise for myself. I'm strong and healthy for my age and I look younger than my age.
Geeze the acne all over that dude body made me sick 🤢🤮
Does not make any sense, so if your face is not attractive, you don't go to the gym?,
They like the guys from hollywood not only from the face but the lean physique as well, one complete the other, only attractive face or only attractive physique is not enough.
2:07 you guys look the similar
i gained 20 pounds and my face blew up, not attractive to women anymore
Muscles enhance your looks,not make your looks.
sometimes make it worse xdd
most young attractive women have a fantasy of being with a young, tall, skinny man.
not a muscular dude... only men have that fantasy. gay men
Wrong. Women don't care about muscles
The gym certainly changes the bone structure of your face. The most it will do is reduce facial fat, but a good diet will do that.
After 6:10, i had this beautiful slovakian girl telling me she wanted to climb my arms like a tree so idk abt impressing a girl with the size of your biceps, but also I mean, I am 187 cm tall, lean and athletic, long yet black curly hair with hunter eyes and a deep voice, so maybe yeah it has not much to do with that I workout, but working out gave a better shape to my face and made my voice deeper so idk
zac efron looked better before peds
At first when i realized this was a reaction video i was ready to hear a load of bs thankfully youre in your senses
How do you "focus" on your face?
Go to 0:43 for that, I guess.
8:03 a fellow Rehab Room viewer, I see.
He's a UA-camr that does blackpill and lookism content. He has some interesting things to say. He once went by IncelTV (or ITV for short) on a previous UA-cam channel.
Every “good looking guy” he showed looked androgynous or someone transitioning.
Did you ever finish that jar of rotten meat?
He's still alive, so I'd assume no.
The thumbnail lmao
This is both true and false. True that if you're ugly in the face girls wont like you regardless, but being in shape helps you at your level. I'm a 4 in the face and an 8 in the body. So, when I go after a woman that's a 3, I'm going to look better than the other guys at that level, and im going to score. Guys there's 3 things to do when you are unattractive: get in shape, get money, get a fat chick. That's it. Or be a billionaire, but that's not going to happen.
If you're a 4, you're on the lower end of average. It's not ugly, but even that isn't good enough.
For some reason i cant give this video a like
Congrats on 70K! 🎉
What you said at the end really blew my mind. I never understood why I got so lost in video games and then the gym growing up but now it makes sense.
A lot of men are struggling to find meaning in their life and are coping with some kind of trauma from bullying, child neglect, heartbreak, insecurity etc and the gym community is preying on these men which only makes things worse. It's sad.
Damn i also played rs and remember kids range and defiled lmao good times
buddy mmuscles do help but not to the degree some dudes think also till the natty limit it is ok beyond that it is gross for most women very very niche women might like that i mean very niche not for most most will say too much
Leonardo DiCaprio has big muscles 😂
I like going to gym because I like well built girls .
10:14 That guy is so insecure, and passive aggressive beyond belief....Even other guys, as long as they are real men; wouldn't want to be around someone like that....
Hey Goatis or anyone what’s the best way to maximise eye area? I know it’s sleep and eating fats but is there anything else? I was thinking applying beef tallow or duck fat to under eye area. Any advice?
You can’t change your eye shape because that’s genetic. You can improve maxilla development through surgical procedures and the forward growth of the maxilla will give your eyes more under eye support, make it look deeper set, and push it up closer to your eyebrows reducing the uee and making your eye brows look more close set. You can use eyelash curlers to make ur eyes looks more “pretty”. Also darken your eyebrows if they’re light and shape them. For me personally I have large eye orbits but since my eye brows are lower set and dark my eye area looks decent. My naturally long eyelashes also help cover up the more bug eye look I have. In fact my eyes would look bad if I had hunter eyes becaude it would mess up my facial harmony.
use honey and coffee on a mix.
put it in the fridge to be cold.
then apply it twice per day.
never drink the coffee. but with honey it helps hydrate the area and make you look younger
@@washi8267 I was talking about eye area not changing your facial shape. I’m talking about under eye bags and eliminating them completely. However good idea on the eyelashes and eyebrows, great advice.
hamza looks rlly unhealthy around the eyes he didn have that problem before he rlly needs to stop going gym
Wheat Waffles gave him a 6/10, which I found laughable because that eye area of his is brutal. Hamza is more like a 4 in actuality if not lower.
@@reylo99i think wheat waffles even rated himself like a 7 or 8 out of ten. he cant rate. hamza is no higher than a 5 although maybe in his home country is higher
@@CultusNaturathere's no way Wheaty is an 8 since that is very rare.
@@700lbsyeah, he is! He doesn't take filters and ring lights into consideration. He probably uses a filter himself.
@@reylo99 true LOL he’s probably a 5 realistically
Guys it won't make you competitive to Chris Hemsworth, but having an average to sub average face with a fit body is definitely better than having the same face with obese or skinny body. You need a good physical shape so your clothes fit good on you, and a good body looks good in any type of clothes. We should just try to do our best. Nobody expects us to look like roid freaks.
Make a video about candy
17:53 thats how hamza looks in reality. he is 4/10.
he uses filters in videos and modifies most of his pictures all the time.
specially the eye area, he is starting to look in his early 40s and he is like barely 26-27
It's funny how Wheat Waffles rated Hamza a 6. He's more like a 4 or so like you said if not really ugly. He may have gotten surgery to fix his ear, but there is no surgery that'll fix his protruding bug eyes. Maybe in India or Pakistan, he'd be a 6 since South Asian man usually aren't that attractive.
He's 26 by the way!
@@reylo99mistake.
anyway he still looks 45 without the filters he uses
@@frederico-d3lyeah, it's crazy how aged he actually appears. He said he was a late bloomer in puberty and people will often say that late bloomers age well. That doesn't seem to be the case for Hamza. I wonder how he'll look in 10 yrs let alone 20 yrs from now.
@@reylo99 well in 10 years or 20 years we will all probably look like *** compared to today that most of us are young. its just how nature works.
but this gymcels destroy their youth... some dudes start the gym and roids at 20, and at 25 they look literally 40 years old... they ruin their life completely.
women love youth and a good skin quality.... steroids destroy that !
Lol, entertaining video. Cheers!
You have one of the most "unique" views I saw this year or probably in many years. Quite interesting because it makes me think (not saying I agree or disagree but you made me think a lot) Thank you
the corn flakes reference! he is clearly vargpilled 👌🏻
I go to the gym . Not only is everyone aging faster but they are scared of viruses still here. These gym adults are completely broken. Muscular but afraid
No one cares about the cough at my gym they left it open during covid 😂
I read a study that said our generation is aging faster than previous ones (biological age measured with the help of „biomarkers“). The context was a rise of cancer since the 90s in people below the age of 50. Whatever is done to us, it needs to stop if humanity wants to get through the Great Filter.
Prime example is Alain Delon arguably the most handsome man ever. Not a single women gave a shit about his body, he never was muscular either. He had incredible handsome face and that’s why women were obsessed with him. Good bone structure, good genes and more importantly pretty face. Blue piercing eyes
Also he sunbathed all the time. Something modern "science" says we should avoid because it'll make us look older.
@@ben-ben2366yeah sunbathed too much is not good because of sunburn but It’s not dangerous or bad for a human. A human being needs sun thru his skin and eyes as well. Delon started aging fast at like 40 because of a lot of smoking and drinking. I think if he didn’t do those things he would have kept his looks longer
@@ben-ben2366 And he aged like milk (not just due to drinking and smoking), so not a good example. Also, JFL about him not being muscular. He looked like a natty DYEL lifter. Most men who train naturally 5+ years and get to his bodyfat% for facial aesthetics will have a similar to his physique.
sam sulek was a diver before he started gear and gym
Of course not, thats why we have the Plastic Surgeon 😅
I think bodybuilding can improve your facial features and can in some cases (in my case ) give you hollow cheeks. But in the same time aware that there of course limitations. But within your looks level girls can before attracted to you…
i had a stroke reading this....
just lose some weight dude , it's not related to body building
They misspelled "ripped" for God's sake. 😂 And "hilarious" too.
Today's so called journalists.