I literally talk first hand with hundreds and hundreds of people every month. I dont know even one person who agrees with this. And not all are "gun people" either.
If I asked everyone I know and be more like 20%. But then again I'm from Missouri one of the most gun free gun loving states in the union. One of the most gun-friendly second amendment supporting places on Earth.
But that shouldn't mean, I get my guns tool away because I'm a schizophrenic I'm not using a shitty machete or other long blade to defend myself... That's UK type bullshit
Haha this old chestnut. How many times in ur life had u had armed men try n attack u as this is only situation where u require a gun to protect ursel. Also if u had a proper well trained police force then u wouldn't require a gun as if a armed man entered ur property, u call cops n hide until police turn up.
What mass shootings? Why don't you go do your research and ask yourself, where are these mass shooters getting the crap ton of arsenal they are always caught with the last guy has 13k in guns. He didn't have a job, have bad credit and still lives at home with momma. You need to use that FUQIN brain of yours. You wanna stop mass shootings? Arm the people that are all to get shot. Everyone in Switzerland are required to have a gun at age 18, you don't hear about any mass shootings over there now DO YOU?
Im from the government and helped countless Trump supporters after losing their campers to hurricanes that should never have formed in cold winter months (CO2 is proven to trap heat, quit with the climate semantics) but hey, at least they get to make snide jabs at the people helping them right?
@@commonsense9173 nobody's saying that co2 isn't proven to trap heat, we are saying that our factories and such are not causing as much damage to the atmosphere as you claim. If you're from the government, please learn more about politics.
I never get any of these supposed polls. For anything. But definitely not on guns or other liberties that these dumbasses want to take away from me. It doesn't matter. They cannot take my god given right to own the means to protect myself. The constitution is only a restriction on the government not to touch it. It doesnt say the government gives me those rights. So these polls dont matter.
Justin Gibson So if the ATF came to your door right now you’d fight to the death and risk your wife/kids life? Word of the wise, don’t lose your guns while fishing.
Exactly and the most hilarious part about gun license states is it can take months to obtain a gun for law abiding citizens, yet a criminal can buy a gun off the streets in five to fifteen minutes in some area's. Also like Colion said the NCIC database is not compiled from one agency (FBI), it's compiled from literally thousands or even tens of thousands of local, state and federal agencies!
@Thelondonbadger If you need a gun in a hurry or a specific date it sounds like you might be wanting to use it for reasons other than recreation or self defence.
@Dylan Wagher -- AKA, "Prior Restraint", which is also unlawful. Any Constitutional rights violation, by any cop, or other public employee, under color of law, upon a citizen, is punishable by up to, and including death, according to the Legal Information Institute", under 18 USC 242.
The 3rd dangerous guy is the law abiding citizen who has no record, but wants to pick up a new hobby like target shooting, or hunting....therefore a threat to the "Establishment".
As a disabled vet that's actually had to go see a psychiatrist just to get clearance for a surgery to implant a spinal cord stimulator to treat severe chronic pain from nerve damage I can personally attest to how screwed up ppl in the mental health system really are. The Dr overheard me speaking to another vet about hunting. That alone led her to deny my clearance & she requested that I needed "extensive counseling" before I could be cleared. Mind you this is all happening as the nation is going nuts over the "opiod epidemic" & instead of cracking down on illegal drugs & pill mills they're going after all highly trained & legitimate pain specialists & their patients so my meds had already been forcefully reduced by govt actions. Took several months to get my intake appt for counseling & once there I spoke indepth with a different psychiatrist, for ~ twice as long, & she ended up apologizing to me for the actions of her colleague then told me I should file a complaint with out pt advocate as well as the hospital director & she would be filing 1 as well. Ended up delaying my surgery by almost 1 full yr anyway. Before anyone says anything, no I've never told any VA worker I own weapons. Like I said, the witch overheard me talking to another vet in an odd shaped waiting area. Just hoping the stimulator helps enough with my pain so I can stop taking my pain meds & go get my LTC. Been taking it for over 20yrs & never felt anything even resembling a high but from what I've been told by 2 different instructors the state won't let me get my license.
That's exactly what it's coming too!!! Those of us who question the government or say something they don't like, they'll cuff and stuff us!!! People don't really believe it's going to happen but it's already began
You have to love how this moron states were not advocating something like the Minority Report when that is exactly what they are proposing. Denying someone rights with no charges or trial because they might possibly do somethin in the future is the whole theme of the dam movie you brain dead twat!
Genuine question though, Do you really think you will have the ability to fight off the government with your guns. I dont think an M1 Abrams will be particularly concerned by your (insert gun here). and unless you have copious amounts of AA lying around Fighter Aircraft and UAV's will definately be an issue for you.
@@lucaschan9079 that question is invalid. most the military wouldnt follow suit when and if it came down to it. most military members understand the difference between a lawfull and unlawful order and when in the military youre taught to disobey unlawful orders. plus many of us, such as myself, are prior military so anything the military has there is always someone who can operate said piece of machinery. that is the standard response to keeping certain types of guns is "can you shoot down a fighter jet" or "will it stop a tank". the answer is no it wont stop a tank but id rather bring a rock to a gun fight than bring a feather.
I bought two guns in the last two weeks. The first background check took 7 days and the second took 10. If that's equal to 108 seconds then my girlfriend will be thrilled to hear this.
One of my coworkers asked the girl in charge of ordering for a roll of ceramic wool insulation. She asked him what is the with that he needed. He said 36 inches. She looked at him and asked if was from a guy's point of view or a woman's. Now this happened during a shift meeting. All he could do was just put his head down.
Just about everyone I know owns a gun. An several at that. None agree with what this people. Hell me or know one I know never went on killing spree wither so I guess guns dont majicly make people more vicious
They twist them anyway. I was called once and the first question asked was Dem or Rep. When I said Rep she said nevermind. Did get her to admit that areas that are red, they don't call at all
Nobody needs to tell me I do or don't need anything! That's the whole basis of freedom and liberty. So the statement you think you're so clever repeating is just a generalization, and would apply to anything in life.
@@thebusterdog6358 True, but without the 2A how do we go about ensuring that freedom and liberty are maintained? It matters more with the 2A because without it, the government can essentially impose it's will at any time, without any consequence. The only reason the US has maintained it's status as the "most free" nation on earth is only because the government is afraid of it's citizens. As soon as we are no longer a threat, it's going to be straight to EU/China like dystopia.
"You don't need an AR-15 ! " says the government politician. "Um yes .... yes I do" said ..Native Americans and the slaves and the jews and Stalins subjects and Pol Pot's victims and the Armenians and current Hong Kong citizens and etc etc.
How many rights say Congress shall make no law .but that didn't stop them from stopping you from screaming fire in a movie theater or threatening someone.nor does it say in the Constitution that anyone has the power to take your rights away for life but they do every day they lable you a Felon.
@@angelokane3458 shh you talking common sense, these idiots dont like that. I despise both sides in gun debate because they both feel its ok to take peoples rights for life. Everyone has right to defend themselves peeiod. How many of these so called gun rights morons will say noone who ever did anything wrong ahould be allowed their rights? Ill tell you, almost none. Well since they feel its ok to take peoples rights for life then i say those hypocrits are threat to society and that their right to liberty should be denied. Lock them up and never allow them their rights to see if they finally get that rights are for everyone
@@angelokane3458 Absolutely, and people are finally starting to come around. Whether it be through a peaceful awakening, or a new kind of civil war, we are going back to a constitutional system in the future. So many people are starting to wake up to this BS.
It’s actually a very irritating, watered down quote that makes gun owners look like cowards. Need to be loud and proud on everything you own and tell any person threatening to come for them to F**K off
I saw a meme of Robin saying that. Batman slapped him and said, “if you have to say that, it’s time to start using them!” Reminder this is just a meme I saw, of course. Federonis chillax.
In Uruguay we have: - Universal background checks - Universal Psych exam - Universal Medical exam - Needing to go through a gun course and a test with the (equivalent to) SWAT - Proof that you make enough money to support yourself and dependants and job antiquity of at least 12 months making said amount (subjective). This proof needs to come from social security which we re all obligated to be enrolled to and all of our paychecks to go through it by law. - We need to provide proof of residency - We need to provide fingerprings - The balistics of the gun are registered (extractor and pin markins, etc) Everything needs to be re done every a maximum of 5 years or when you buy a new gun YOU CANNOT CARRY YOUR FIREARM OUTSIDE YOUR PROPERTY unless you: - Do private security of valuable goods (like armored trucks of money) - Are police and in uniform - Are military in uniform and on duty - Are a Judge or prosecutor - have a credible and recent threat on you or a loved one (like a mafia boss putting a hit on you or ar ex who tried something before and is on the loose) And then you need to carry it opened always. Even if you go through all of it, you're capped at .45 caliber. No military style rifles No semi automatic rifles of any sort (even if non military) No Auto EVER No hollow point We are capped at 3 firearms Guess what? US murder rate is 5.0/100k uruguay's is 8.2/100k there are around 500k registered firearms at an average of 1 per person. Out of 3.4 citizens. Around 700k illegal weapons, not acquired legally (stolen from police, military, or through smuggling) So, not only there's a lot of murder, but they have more guns that the police, military and legal gun owners combined GUN CONTROL DOES NOT WORK!
Aidyn Altanessi you can’t do that, The US is bigger than all of Europe. To make it even close, figure the entire continent and compare your numbers . Now look at other types of murder. Assume all guns we are aware of Which are the legal ones are gone. Using the killings from EU, do you think it would make a difference? Now what about those guns we can’t trace? Those are gonna be the ones mostly used by felons , as much as we tell them not to, they are the ones using them. Not the people you want to take guns from. I won’t even get into the whole reason for the 2nd amendment. Your argument is just a stupid one. And if the next argument is about saving all those kids lives, Let’s put an end to abortion and save Millions of lives and work on the others after we fix the biggest threat to life in this country
Criminals will follow none of this it does not affect criminals in any way. The only law criminals follow is , the right of the people to keep and bear arms,shall not be infringed that is the only law criminals follow.
there is a japanese saying "one sword keeps another in its sheath" taking someone's ability to defend themselves only makes them a easy target for the wicked and the tyrant.
Well that's exactly what the enemies want (leftist/liberals), the population to be defenseless. When bolshevism took over Europe the population was defenseless, the Europeans now dying from terrorists are also defenseless. You may not be aware since the mainstream shill media will never touch on subjects like this, but communists are trying to pave way to coups right now in south africa and latin America The leftist media outlets like this Vox shit don't want to protect lives like they claim, they want to attack our rights to weaken us
If the government was actually worried about people dying they would go after tobacco and alcohol. Cigarette smoking attributed to 480,000 deaths per year.
The power to give life does not rest with the government. They are our peers not our zoo keepers. They have no real pretence of doing so either even though families describe how regulations destroy families and businesses. They are far from saints, as Donald Trump would say, not even close. Under the pretense nothing can fail nothing will get done either as everyone doubts every thing. Involuntary mass discipline by humans fails every time.
Vox: “we’re not advocating for some minority report style tyranny” Also Vox: Immediately proceeds to describe a system that is the _literal definition_ of a minority report style tyrannical system.... I truly fear for our future if this us the intelligence of the average person...
Instead of criticizing you should PROPOSE SOLUTIONS. But of course all you pro-gun retards NEVER propose ANYTHING to prevent mass killings from happening. You NEVER propose ANYTHING. Saying that licensing is "horrible" and that "waiting 6 weeks to get a gun is not normal" shows just how selfish you are.
You have comprehension issues. The entire fuqin video is advocating for minority report style FOOLISHNESS. People like you are what's wrong with the world, no matter the facts you see, you don't give a damn especially if it goes against your agenda. You're FUQ'D!
Immediately before saying thus guy is not describing one even though it sounds like it. And the rest of the video following where they confirm the person with no issues might not get a gun
Prohibition and the Drug War were enacted by old white men, but a gun ban is different because it would be implemented by a new, multi-cultural society.
They also act like guns sold in private sales just appear out of thin air. If I'm selling a truck, I'm probably going to decline the sale if I start to get the sense that the buyer wants to use it to plow through a parade or some shit. Even someone who's too selfish to be deterred by the horror of the possible act would probably avoid the sale just because they wouldn't want police all over them for selling a device used to harm a bunch of innocent people. Why would it be dany different for someone selling a gun? It'ls a rhetorical question, I realize that anti 2A types often think literally everyone who disagrees with them on anything is evil and stupid.
I'd love to see statistics on people who "impulsively buy a gun" with the intent to go out and do harm that same day. This is something they throw out there pretty regularly, but I've never actually seen any _EVIDENCE_ that this happens.
@@nathandkreosote9917 You get that claims are not evidence, right? Just saying it doesn't make it true, you get that, right? Even for someone who thinks they are as brilliant as you do.
@@dienekes4364 Wow, all that for little old me? Cruz did that, Uvalde shooter, and that Dickens shooter bought their guns same day or same week and thats just off the top of my head. I support guns but things like this do happen, recognize it and stop getting your panties in a twist.
There is no china or covid or Corona virus. Wake up. They are fucking up the economy. Just go to the hospitals, you'll see nothing going on. I made a small vid , corrupt Google and YT are taking all my views. They want you home all locked up just watching the bad fake news to keep you in fear.
Ivan Voinov He flexed with the fact that gun deaths WERENT EVEN in the top 10, love the video and agree with his points but that was an american thing to say 😂😭
"We're not advocating for tyranny. We just think people who have done nothing wrong should be stripped of their legal rights if we suspect that they might potentially commit a crime at some undefined time in the future."
Apply that same reasoning to buying a car, or whatever. A house even, I could see it now, we suspect you might commit a crime in your house. Just saying......God Speed.
I love how the solution to an outdated background check system and lazy government workers isn’t to improve the system and implement better checks within it, but rather to make an entirely new system that’s harder to use and takes longer to perform its duties...
The brady bill delayed .my gun purchase by over 4mo because of beuratic lazeyness it took that and hundreds of dollars to get it straightened out how many noticed clinton speach on brady bill was the sAme hitlera in 1939
I think the clue everyone is missing is the transference of guilt in which these leftists constantly engage. Their assumptions about your character and my character are based upon their feelings about and knowledge of themselves. "You'll do bad things with a gun because I would do bad things with a gun."- notice the quotes.
@@alecb8509 literally the exact plot of Minority Report. It's amazing how so many post-modern/futuristic stories are slowly becoming reality these days, both good and bad.
St. Salton when that happens how is a law abiding citizen going to stand up.... thats the easiest question to conceive in the mind if you are smart and not ignorant to danger. Yet its still not convincing enough... lots of people are ignorant to the fact that “”if someone can get attacked so can i””
I’ve been at a gun show, and seen several vendors do a background check on the spot. They physically called a federal office and confirmed that the person they were checking had no major criminal record before they made any sort of deal. Longest one I saw took nearly 30 minutes. I listened in on every second.
@Jim Man I respect your opinion but would you really claim that the government should allow people with a history of domestic violence or mental illness? These people after all are still American citizens.
@@xavierquentinchad5880 I respect your genuine good intention to disallow ownership of a gun to someone who is likely to misuse it. What is required to address the problem involves much more than good intentions. Laws exist to remove guns and disallow a person who has broken those laws. Those laws don't get enforced, for many reasons. What if we enforce existing laws, and get rid of unenforceable laws? What a concept! What if we do that before we venture further down the road of pre-crime persecution of people for what they might do? What if we remove from society people who are incapable of being responsible for themselves, like those with a history of violent mental illness, who refuse to take their medication? We cannot see every tragic shooting as reason to attack inalienable rights, any more than we can see every drugged driver traffic accident as reason to ban cars.
Jim Man “And to destroy someone’s life for any reason except their taking of a life is unjust” *Theft, kidnapping and counterfeiting would like to know your location.*
@@xavierquentinchad5880 What do you mean by mental illness? If someone has a mental illness but isn't violent, should they still own a gun? What counts as a mental illness? If you include mental disorders, that is a bad thing, because Autistic people, who are more vulnerable, have a right to defend themselves.
Why not both? I’m sure China fears its people (considering there’s over 1B of them) and that’s why it cracks down on dissent so harshly. I see tyranny and no liberty.
define "too dangerous" because by the governments ideas if you get into a fist fight apparently you're as bad as bin laden "domestic violence" shouldn't be a reason you can't have a gun everyone gets into altercations it's a reality of life.
I have been saying the same thing for years. Whatever new restriction the liberals want to put on purchasing a gun should also be applied to registering to vote.
The government sucks at their job because they steal money from us in the name of "taxes", which is another fancy term for spoils of theft. Then they go on a fucking spending spree blowing our hard earned money on whatever depraved fantasies they have in mind about torturing the masses. These people live to control others. Government and the illusion of authority which does not exist in the fabric of reality, is the most dangerous superstition of all. To think that giving few power over many would make life better is insanity. I rule me. You rule you. Non aggression principle. #anarchy=peace
Haha I get it now. Newbie to the gun ownership world and just love it . Next up rifle. I actually feel so safe now in my big ass home all by myself because of this gun. I no longer feel helpless if someone tried to burglar my house again.
"Mental illness" could include a fear of spiders, social anxiety, or even the wrong opinions -- that is, nothing that makes one homicidal. Very slippery slope.
@@Baurakale777 If Bill Nye had his way anyone who disagreed with his point of view on climate change would be jailed as a criminal, he actually said the words.
Stewart Boyer Bill Nye is the quintessential “crazy eyed” freak we used to lock up for being crazy! But since he’s on the left’s side, he’s hailed as a hero!
@@jadoncampbell2740 and almost every single School shooting was done using an illegal gun, other ones were guns probably purchased by the perpetrator’s parents
100% all free citizens have the right to keep and bear whatever arms they choose. The only prerequisite is being free. Period. If you were released from prison this morning or from the mental ward yesterday you have same rights as the next person.
@@FreedomInc It's terrible that there are so many unconstitutional laws. Plus law enforcement is enforcing these "laws" which makes them criminals, ironically. These people who keep giving up their essential liberties for security, deserve neither.
@Howling Frog exactly... we could have rebuilt the country twice, paid reparations and gone to mars with all of the money stolen that's now being hoarded and doing NOTHING for our economy.
Mine did too. They said that wasn't uncommon for a Saturday when more working class people such as myself do most of our gun buying. They used the time to show me the specifics about how to clean the gun properly. Good folks.
And if he uses a gun to harm her while she is defenseless due to these "solutions", they will use that violence to further justify their "solutions" that left her defenseless to start with.
@@9drtr well yea we gotta make sure nothing good comes out of the situation. The baby was creared thru rape therefore it obviously has less value than a normal baby.
There was a woman who applied for a license for protection from her ex who didn't care about the PPO she was killed before she got her license to be able to defend herself
@@saunleecoetzee9170 If you lived near to where I live, you'd know that any fears are based on what actually happens there, daily. It is proper to fear those who don't fear the Law.
@@michelmakeer7624 I am a South African, I do not live in a 'gated security village', or an elite suburb. I have lived in Hillbrow[Jhb], Point[Dbn], Central[PE], and a number of informal settlements. There is violence and crime, poverty in the extreme alongside great wealth. Most people are not armed with firearms. Those that are kill a lot of people, they are slowly reducing in number as is the overflow of automatic weapons from the Cold War proxy wars that flooded the country, adding to those the Apartheid government inserted. As the number of guns reduces so do the killings. People killed in crimes of poverty, escalate when all the poor have in the way of dignity are their 'guns', and trust me it is not the rich being shot. The prevalence of firearms in the USA provides the absurd degree in which 'Officer Safety' exculpates LEO's from accountability in excessive force shootings. The dual profiling of race and crime added to the 'likelihood', have given your police virtual free-fire rules of engagement. In my military training and operational service there had to be clear presentation and intent to fire a weapon in order to employ deadly force. Also your ridiculous stand your ground and castle domain laws make shooting someone relatively unproblematic, in some states you would serve more time if you hit your opponent with a stick and they survived. If there is crime in your neighborhood, sort it out, speak to the authorities as a community, speak to the gangsters as well. Often in an oppressed society it is the best that become criminals, they are reclaimable. That is patronizing I know, nevertheless true.
saun lee coetzee the problem is that the “authorities” may or may not have an incentive to help the community or its people. You are assuming that those in power always have the best interests of their people at heart and will act accordingly and not based on whatever ideology they may hold. A free citizen should not have to justify or advocate for their rights from the state. I’m not talking about perks or privileges that others provide, I’m talking about the freedom of speech the right to challenge authority if their “solutions” punish more good than bad and the right to defend yourself from others attempting to strip you of your rights whether it be a criminal or a tyrannical government. Negotiating with people that want nothing else but to keep taking means they will continue to take until your either dead or submissive. Which is why the 2nd amendment exists. What you’re talking about is appeasement. You wanna talk lets talk but don’t demand dialogue when you’re trying to kill or take from me.
Just use their own sentiment against them with the shoe-on-the-other-foot consistency test with someone they agree with in the same situation. If they make special pleading for the same things because of whose doing it, then you know they have double standards.
Me too. Every person I know that is a gun owner, just about all of them are gun owners, would never agree to this nonsense. Its propaganda communist style.
They only poll the people in their SMALL circle. Where I live everyone has a gun, and we don't take classes or buy a license to carry guns. Open carry or concealed, it's your choice, and more importantly, it's your RIGHT.
No polling is going to ask EVERYONE in the country, that's ridiculous. However their polling is supposed to encompass a wide variety of people and backgrounds in an attempt to make up for the inability to poll the whole country. But when they make statements like that it's obvious they just mean group of people that were polled that are representative of the country. Now if they did a bad job in their polling and only choose to poll people with specific opinions them they would receive scrutiny from the community and likely wouldn't be doing any other pollings after being exposed. And then any responsible news sites would pull down any content relating to that information or risk themselves from also being scrutinized and lose subscriptions and money.
@Aaron Kiest because the license is only to drive on state roads. Plenty of people buy trucks and use them on their farm only. Its also a great alternative to buying your kids a 4 wheeler or go-kart. A cheap 500 buck pickup is farm equipment and fun to drive around.
@Aaron Kiest I have had anti gun people, the wife of a great mechanic to boot, tell me you have to have a license to buy a car before so I don't assume anything when it comes to statements like that. And to that let me ask you a question. If you have to have a license to buy a car but you have to drive a car to get a test for your license how would anyone get a car? Also having to have a license to own something that is not inherently dangerous by itself is stupid. I can see having to be licensed to keep something like 95% peroxide or something that can at room temperature conditions degrade into a contact explosive but guns and cars sit where you leave them and will do nothing unless someone uses them. That 95% pure peroxide though, a week or more at room temperature can give you a bomb that can spontaneously ignite or explode. So be free, have guns and cars and remember if you have hazmat compounds to follow all applicable safety precautions, because it would be a shame to loose your trigger finger.
I love the point about the 1st Amendment. Imagine hearing "To exercise freedom of speech, you need to go to your local police station and fill out an application for a license. Once you register, in 3-6 weeks you may or may not be able to say what's on your mind."
Mattew Payne two things wrong with your words. 1: speech has killed people due to gross negligence. Think about that girl that talked her boy friend into killing himself. There’s also the cases where people yelled fire or bomb which led to people being trampled to death. What about cults using speech to convince their congregation to kill themselves? Free speech has led to death in many different fashions. We shouldn’t take away the right to free speech because some people suck. 2: it doesn’t matter. The reason the founders gave us rights is so that the government couldn’t interfere with those actions. It doesn’t matter if fire arms lead to death, as long as it’s a right, it can’t be infringed. It doesn’t matter if it’s speech or the right to own guns. It’s a right. You shouldn’t be so complicit in the government infringing our rights. If you want gun control, call for a new amendment or a constitutional convention to change the constitution. Don’t make the words meaningless, otherwise the government has supreme power, which no one wants.
I know its not always appropriate, but this cannot wait any longer and I fear for the safety of an innocent mexican who believed in the constitution and exercised their rights, the police violated civil rights to put an innocent man in jail. I kindly urge you to at least view the article and feel free to share. I do not expect donations. I just want you to take a look at the important article that no one is talking about. Everyone talks about the young kid named Kyle in Kenosha but what about the many, many stories of innocent people like this man in Texas? www.gofundme.com/f/help-save-my-son-NBPD-profiled-him Please go visit the site and share the message. Please.
LOL "it just misses all the people who haven't done anything bad yet but might do something bad in the future" They are totally insane. That's literally everyone.
It *could* be anyone. It *won't* be everyone. Either way, it completely subverts due process, adds vindictive impairments to rights, and literally gets people killed just like waiting periods do. A waiting period doesn't stop a maniac. They'll go through the BS or steal a gun, assuming they don't *already* have one. Society has to *react* to maniacs, because generally we don't know they're going to do something *until* they're *actually* doing it
As a MA resident, you practically nailed it! In my particular town, they will give out LTC’s with a “hunting and target” restriction until you’re 25 years old. If I lived about 1 mile away in my adjacent town, I wouldn’t have any restrictions. And if I lived about 15 miles away in Boston it’d be quite the achievement to exercise my constitutional right without “breaking the law”
Dude, I have manic depression with hallucinations. The only thing keeping me from buying an assault weapon and 10,000 rounds is the honor system and the fact that my extensive record of mental cracked up shit from when I was in the service is not entered into the background system.
@@RamusHelstein "assualt rifles" is a made up term. Plus buying that much ammunition is extremely expensive so yeah and I think you're giving a bs story just to push a narrative sorry but I'm keeping my guns wheter you like it or not.
@@brat-b8h if the dead could legally vote, I'd agree with you. But I see why the dead voted for him, he has about as much charm, charisma, energy & enthusiasm as the dead.
I live in Germany, and how many people know, we have pretty strong gun-control. But still we have a lot of mass-shootings just nobody talks about them. It´s not the guns, it´s the people
“No state shall convert a liberty into a license, and charge a fee therefore.” (Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105) “If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.” (Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S. 262)
Ok. Try that using that logic on 1. Arresting officer 2. The Judge 3. The 'Wokeleft'. Yeah, the MSM would make you a poster boy for 6 months to a year... Oh not saying I disagree with the premise - just the practice
@@Gibson_Praise fun fact, this worked for me when I went camping at a national park. Game warden visited me while I was fishing for dinner and I showed him these 2 exact Supreme Court cases. He checked it out and told me to have a good weekend. It doesn't work for say, a drivers license, but it works more effectively with hunt, fishing license. Though with enough backing and spreading, I don't see why it wouldn't work with firearms as well.
Wow cool - thanks for the info, never thought of that- so true ... What if we ALL 'protested' the DENIAL of our 2A Right 2 bear arms without infringement. I know, it sounds crazy to me 2 - just might work \m/
I don’t like someone telling me that they are going to infringe on my Rights when they don’t have a damn clue what they are talking about! Stick with your knitting 🤬
*I thought we enjoyed the presumption of innocence until the proof of guilt. If I'm not innocent until proven guilty, then why is the punishment coming before the crime?*
MA here as well. Its crazy how its different from town to town. Got my unrestricted license to carry within 2-3 weeks and during the interview officer basically said that he wants me to carry when im in town. One town over my friend couple both waited like 3 months had pretty much no interaction with police other than photo and prints and got hunting and target restricted. And then dont forget approved firearms roster, ak and ar ban and high capacity mag ban. Funny thing as other said without even looking hard i can get Lawrence special easier and often even cheaper. Makes sense.
I ran the hell away from the people's demokratik republik of taxichusetts, where i was wholly unfortunate to have been raised... The entire process took a couple weeks. I haven't looked back once.
I know everyone is joking here, but I think these are real solutions to our liberal problem. They won’t be so cute when we start infringing on their rights.
Sea Shrimp the fact is, I DO have the right to keep and bear arms as a law abiding citizen of the United States. If you want to deprive me of that right, then I suggest you draft and pass through both houses of Congress, and obtain ratification in 38 States, for the 28th Amendment to the Constitution which states: “Article II of the Bill of Rights is hearby abrogated in its entirety, and only agents of the United States government may possess or use firearms.” Restricting firearms to the national police forces worked out very well in Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Soviet Union, Mao’s People’s Republic of China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, and Chavez’s Venezuela. At least it worked out very well for Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Hugo Chavez. The average subject of the dictatorial realms, not so much. 100 million dis-armed persons were shot, gassed, starved or worked to death in gulags. The Chicom’s currently have about 1,000,000 Uigurs in “re-education work camps” in western China, trying to beat the Islam out of them. Since you are espousing views opposed to the United States Constitution, I assume you are a Progressive and are NOT a fan of the current occupant of the Oval Office. Cue the Rod Serling voice-over, “Consider, if you will, a nation where only Donald J. Trump and his minions possess, and carry “weapons of war. You are entering the Tyranny Zone.” Seriously, there are many nations on this planet where the people are subjects to the whims of government. Those people are properly called “subjects” not “citizens.” If an elected official, or worse, a faceless bureaucrat, decrees something, the subjects have no choice but to accede to authority whether it is “this is your doctor,” or “get in the cattle car to the work camp.” Look at the history of this nation. In 1776 the soldiers of the King of England tried to seize the lawfully owned firearms of the British subjects at Lexington and Concord, MA. The colonial militia refused to surrender their arms, and shot and killed the regular Red-Coat soldiers of the Crown. They kept on shooting them and killing them for five long years until the King’s armies surrendered. After the failure of the Articles of Confederation to create a workable Federal government of the States, the special Convention drafted the Constitution. But many of the States were afraid that the recently ousted King might just be replaced by a new tyrant in Washington, D.C. and they refused to ratify the Constitution until basic Civil Rights were enumerated as protected from Federal usurpation in the Bill of Rights, also known as the first Ten Amendments to the Constitution. If YOU want to strip the Citizens of the United States of those Rights, you must either amend the Constitution, according to the steps laid out in that document, or you must overthrow the United States government as it was founded. The current legislative activities in the State of Virginia to ban the ownership of firearms by Citizens are un-Constitutional, and 95 of the hundred counties in the state have declared themselves to be “Second Amendment Sanctuary Counties” and Sheriffs and law enforcement officers that have sworn an oath to “defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic” are refusing to enforce the new laws. Governor Northam is threatening to send the “National Guard” to enforce the new laws and seize the weapons that have been outlawed. Do you see any historical parallels here? Fifty years ago I had similar views as yours about private ownership of firearms. As I learned more about the real world, and bottomless well of depravity that is human nature, I came to understand the motivations of the Founders in drafting Article II of the Bill of Rights. Yes, the technology has changed, the Brown Bess musket, a weapon of war, has been replaced by the modern sporting rifle, but human nature has not changed, and never will. The only time that the “lion lays down with the lamb” is when the lion has already eaten the ewe and the ram, and is just waiting for dinner to settle so that he can have dessert. I also took that Oath, and it has no expiration date. I will fight the enemies of the Constitution, here with informed opinion, at the ballot box with the franchise, and, at last resort, on my home soil. Finally, “don’t be ignorant, governments kill unruly subjects WAY more often than law abiding Citizens commit murder.” You may vote yourself into Socialism, but you will have to SHOOT your way out of it.
MASTER-OF- EVIL exactly lol I asked my plug where he got his gun and he show me his revolver to see if I liked it and wanted to give me the contact of the guy lol like nothing is going to stop someone who is trying to commit a crime is just not happening
That argument for people who "could be dangerous" is ridiculous, every person on this planet has a breaking point and could become violent, but I guess disarming everyone is their goal.
True, but a violent offender or someone with mental illness, especially mental illnesses that cause a person to be violent, is more likely to use a gun to hurt or kill someone than someone just having a bad day.
Rights are not granted by the constitution. They are recognized. That paper isn't a list of things the government allows us to do. It's an ultimatum of what we'll kill politicians for.
@Hahhah0 Eh, yeah, really. Even if the gov't is _required_ to grant a license, by default, the bureaucrats and politicians will labor tirelessly to invent mendacious or disingenuous reasons to deny said license; first, 'for safety', then by default. Further, the whole point of licensing is to establish the gov't right to infringe upon the individual's right until the gov't infringement is no longer questioned as being its right to do so. When - not if - when this is accomplished then the law changes so that only The Chosen may "reasonably acquire a license." Such is the history of licensing the world over.
Well a lot of mental health issues were unknown when those rights were created. I advocate for the 2nd but I don't think schizophrenics should have firearms and without licensing they have even easier access to them than with it.
@@commonsense9173 You mean the same "mental health" issues used to describe completely normal behavior for just about anything? I guarantee you could go look up any type of normal behavior and somewhere there will be a "mental disorder" that the normal behavior can be diagnosed as, the whole mental health thing would be taken a whole lot more seriously if there were not 10000000 made up mental health disorders that again describe perfectly normal behavior.
I live in illinois, we have gun licences, F.O.I.D cards, firearm owner identification ..if you lucky you get it in 3 months , a state can not override the supream law of the land and its citizens sould not have to go out and do a months long process to do what the constitution prohibits the government either fed or state from doing they are infringing your GOD given right. I think that's what he is sayin here.
blackknightreturns1 I don’t see how delays are an infringement. I think it is an idea worth studying and if it does decrease the crime rate it’s worth streamlining and applying. I’m fine waiting a couple months if it means less people die. Nobody complains having to wait years to get a driving licence.
@@jamesarrendell9517 you missed the point but I will just say this, No rule..law or regulation, background check, red flag confiscation or licence will stop a criminal or someone who has made up there mind to do wrong, these things only penalize the law abiding people who don't deserve it.
blackknightreturns1 you are also missing the point. A small penalty on the time it takes to get a fire arm has the potential to keep firearms away from irresponsible parents, ignorant gun owners, or at least some straw purchases.
When you make a right so difficult and expensive to exersise that only a small percentage of people are able to afford it, it is no longer a right. It is a privilege.
Legally speaking there is no such thing as a universal right. All rights are afforded to us and public responsibility is implied. Hence the infamous can't yell fire in a crowded theater and you can't just shoot people you don't like. If you accidentally shoot a child or leave your gun accessible to another person, you should in theory have that right revoked seeing as you violated the public's trust by showing grouse incompetence. The afforded right comes with the responsibility that your going to not be a detriment to the public good.
I know its not always appropriate, but this cannot wait any longer and I fear for the safety of an innocent mexican who believed in the constitution and exercised their rights, the police violated civil rights to put an innocent man in jail. I kindly urge you to at least view the article and feel free to share. I do not expect donations. I just want you to take a look at the important article that no one is talking about. Everyone talks about the young kid named Kyle in Kenosha but what about the many, many stories of innocent people like this man in Texas? www.gofundme.com/f/help-save-my-son-NBPD-profiled-him Please go visit the site and share the message. Please.
Unfortunately we haveno rights in this country. Because they can be striped away without warning or cause. And as george carlin said "a right isn't a right if someone can take it away"
Instead of criticizing you should PROPOSE SOLUTIONS. But of course all you pro-gun retards NEVER propose ANYTHING to prevent mass killings from happening. You NEVER propose ANYTHING. Saying that licensing is "horrible" and that "waiting 6 weeks to get a gun is not normal" shows just how selfish you are.
I hate when they say all Americans agree with us. I dont know anyone who agrees with this.
I hope your marksmanship is as good as your name suggests, seriously, I really do! What a fucking bad-ass!!
TheWhiteDeath doood... i know. Im like what gun owner agrees with this? None that i know of...
I avoid such weenies:-)
Seriously. Nobody even asked me!
I literally talk first hand with hundreds and hundreds of people every month. I dont know even one person who agrees with this. And not all are "gun people" either.
“All americans agree!” I dont remember being asked..
Me either
Yep, but maybe they checked you on their own universal background check.
Yeah that's what I don't get, they give us all these stats but I know nobody in my state was asked most likely.
If I asked everyone I know and be more like 20%. But then again I'm from Missouri one of the most gun free gun loving states in the union. One of the most gun-friendly second amendment supporting places on Earth.
@@Elconquistador1979 But still they give these stats out like it's the same for all 50 states.
My friend literally killed himself last month with a gun. We don't have a violence problem we gotta mental health problem.
Evan Daniels Hope God have his soul
@Randy Rome so a mental health problem then.
@Randy Rome What's the difference
But that shouldn't mean, I get my guns tool away because I'm a schizophrenic
I'm not using a shitty machete or other long blade to defend myself... That's UK type bullshit
No we don't. There are always mentally sick individuals and always will be.
I’m just so sick of the people that can pay for their security telling me that I can’t protect me and my family
Haha this old chestnut. How many times in ur life had u had armed men try n attack u as this is only situation where u require a gun to protect ursel. Also if u had a proper well trained police force then u wouldn't require a gun as if a armed man entered ur property, u call cops n hide until police turn up.
Literally nobody is telling you that you can't protect your family. People are just trying to find solutions to mass shootings.
@@justaguy3665Mass shootings are a fraction of total firearm homicides, all rifles including AR15s kill only 400 annually
@@justaguy3665 You aren't too smart are you?
What mass shootings? Why don't you go do your research and ask yourself, where are these mass shooters getting the crap ton of arsenal they are always caught with the last guy has 13k in guns. He didn't have a job, have bad credit and still lives at home with momma. You need to use that FUQIN brain of yours. You wanna stop mass shootings? Arm the people that are all to get shot. Everyone in Switzerland are required to have a gun at age 18, you don't hear about any mass shootings over there now DO YOU?
The worst 9 words ever : I’m from the government and I’m here to help.
Brian Underwood isn’t that the Democratic Party’s motto?
Jeff Josifek-I believe you are correct.
Im from the government and helped countless Trump supporters after losing their campers to hurricanes that should never have formed in cold winter months (CO2 is proven to trap heat, quit with the climate semantics) but hey, at least they get to make snide jabs at the people helping them right?
Brian Underwood you are being helped ... please do not resist
@@commonsense9173 nobody's saying that co2 isn't proven to trap heat, we are saying that our factories and such are not causing as much damage to the atmosphere as you claim. If you're from the government, please learn more about politics.
I don’t remember ever being polled for anything
I never get any of these supposed polls. For anything. But definitely not on guns or other liberties that these dumbasses want to take away from me.
It doesn't matter. They cannot take my god given right to own the means to protect myself. The constitution is only a restriction on the government not to touch it. It doesnt say the government gives me those rights. So these polls dont matter.
Pretty sure it’s something you need to volunteer for. Like people who write product reviews. There is a big liberal motive behind everyone who voted.
Justin Gibson So if the ATF came to your door right now you’d fight to the death and risk your wife/kids life? Word of the wise, don’t lose your guns while fishing.
They basically ask the far left people so the look better
No they just taking polls from campases like university of Berkeley
1- Needing a license turns rights into a privileges.
2- A right delayed is a right denied.
Exactly and the most hilarious part about gun license states is it can take months to obtain a gun for law abiding citizens, yet a criminal can buy a gun off the streets in five to fifteen minutes in some area's. Also like Colion said the NCIC database is not compiled from one agency (FBI), it's compiled from literally thousands or even tens of thousands of local, state and federal agencies!
@Thelondonbadger of course they do, they want full blown communism instated.
There's only one solution.
@Thelondonbadger If you need a gun in a hurry or a specific date it sounds like you might be wanting to use it for reasons other than recreation or self defence.
@Dylan Wagher -- AKA, "Prior Restraint", which is also unlawful. Any Constitutional rights violation, by any cop, or other public employee, under color of law, upon a citizen, is punishable by up to, and including death, according to the Legal Information Institute", under 18 USC 242.
"Shall not be infringed".
Why is that so hard to understand???
Oh man this "if America has a crisis it's the flu" comment has aged like a fine wine.
was just thinking this exactly
Second I heard that, i paused and came down here.
We need a common sense covid background check
Lol rip 2020
Came here for this exact comment lol
"The Air Force didn't submit his criminal history like they were supposed to. So, go talk to them. And leave our rights alone." Great quote.
Maybe Vox needs to apply for a free speech license to make sure that they don’t speak dangerous words 🤔
I'm sorry Vox. We are going to have to deny your first amendment right to post retarded shit that we can debunk.
ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY!!! They do not get it. We need to MAKE them get it. A 'Civil Right' a RIGHT not a privilege.
Shall not be infringed. Period
The third "dangerous" person is a law-abiding citizen that they just labeled dangerous because well reasons
The 3rd dangerous guy is the law abiding citizen who has no record, but wants to pick up a new hobby like target shooting, or hunting....therefore a threat to the "Establishment".
@@markfinch1095 cant be having all these guns and shit
He’s a middle aged white male. So obviously dangerous 😆
As a disabled vet that's actually had to go see a psychiatrist just to get clearance for a surgery to implant a spinal cord stimulator to treat severe chronic pain from nerve damage I can personally attest to how screwed up ppl in the mental health system really are. The Dr overheard me speaking to another vet about hunting. That alone led her to deny my clearance & she requested that I needed "extensive counseling" before I could be cleared. Mind you this is all happening as the nation is going nuts over the "opiod epidemic" & instead of cracking down on illegal drugs & pill mills they're going after all highly trained & legitimate pain specialists & their patients so my meds had already been forcefully reduced by govt actions. Took several months to get my intake appt for counseling & once there I spoke indepth with a different psychiatrist, for ~ twice as long, & she ended up apologizing to me for the actions of her colleague then told me I should file a complaint with out pt advocate as well as the hospital director & she would be filing 1 as well. Ended up delaying my surgery by almost 1 full yr anyway. Before anyone says anything, no I've never told any VA worker I own weapons. Like I said, the witch overheard me talking to another vet in an odd shaped waiting area. Just hoping the stimulator helps enough with my pain so I can stop taking my pain meds & go get my LTC. Been taking it for over 20yrs & never felt anything even resembling a high but from what I've been told by 2 different instructors the state won't let me get my license.
He's dangerous because of stuff and things...
Thats the equivalent of saying “you haven’t done anything yet, but we’re gonna toss you in jail because we think you’re gonna commit a crime.”
That's exactly what it's coming too!!! Those of us who question the government or say something they don't like, they'll cuff and stuff us!!! People don't really believe it's going to happen but it's already began
_minority report intensifies_
And yet i bet you feel its ok to deny people their rights. Everyone has right to defend themselves, Everyone.
You have to love how this moron states were not advocating something like the Minority Report when that is exactly what they are proposing. Denying someone rights with no charges or trial because they might possibly do somethin in the future is the whole theme of the dam movie you brain dead twat!
The only time the 2nd amendment has anything to do with hunting is when hunting down a tyrannical government and jack boots.
Copy that ghost ryder
Yes sir
Go ahead and “hunt down” the government lmao see what happens
Genuine question though, Do you really think you will have the ability to fight off the government with your guns. I dont think an M1 Abrams will be particularly concerned by your (insert gun here). and unless you have copious amounts of AA lying around Fighter Aircraft and UAV's will definately be an issue for you.
@@lucaschan9079 that question is invalid. most the military wouldnt follow suit when and if it came down to it. most military members understand the difference between a lawfull and unlawful order and when in the military youre taught to disobey unlawful orders. plus many of us, such as myself, are prior military so anything the military has there is always someone who can operate said piece of machinery. that is the standard response to keeping certain types of guns is "can you shoot down a fighter jet" or "will it stop a tank". the answer is no it wont stop a tank but id rather bring a rock to a gun fight than bring a feather.
I bought two guns in the last two weeks. The first background check took 7 days and the second took 10. If that's equal to 108 seconds then my girlfriend will be thrilled to hear this.
One of my coworkers asked the girl in charge of ordering for a roll of ceramic wool insulation. She asked him what is the with that he needed. He said 36 inches. She looked at him and asked if was from a guy's point of view or a woman's. Now this happened during a shift meeting. All he could do was just put his head down.
I'm pretty sure that I wasn't included in the All Americans poll.
Just about everyone I know owns a gun. An several at that. None agree with what this people. Hell me or know one I know never went on killing spree wither so I guess guns dont majicly make people more vicious
In the words of the great Thomas Sowell, "I, like everyone I know, have never met a pollster".
They only polled ca
They twist them anyway. I was called once and the first question asked was Dem or Rep. When I said Rep she said nevermind. Did get her to admit that areas that are red, they don't call at all
“When they tell you that you don’t need the second amendment, that’s when you need it”
So very true! Those who try to protect you from yourself are the ones you need protection from
Nobody needs to tell me I do or don't need anything! That's the whole basis of freedom and liberty. So the statement you think you're so clever repeating is just a generalization, and would apply to anything in life.
@@thebusterdog6358 - Wow, you showed him!
@@thebusterdog6358 True, but without the 2A how do we go about ensuring that freedom and liberty are maintained? It matters more with the 2A because without it, the government can essentially impose it's will at any time, without any consequence. The only reason the US has maintained it's status as the "most free" nation on earth is only because the government is afraid of it's citizens. As soon as we are no longer a threat, it's going to be straight to EU/China like dystopia.
"You don't need an AR-15 ! " says the government politician.
"Um yes .... yes I do" said ..Native Americans and the slaves and the jews and Stalins subjects and Pol Pot's victims and the Armenians and current Hong Kong citizens and etc etc.
How many laws have the line “shall not be infringed”. Any gun control is an infringement How many lists have prevented a crime.
This is the same question I asked!
How many rights say Congress shall make no law .but that didn't stop them from stopping you from screaming fire in a movie theater or threatening someone.nor does it say in the Constitution that anyone has the power to take your rights away for life but they do every day they lable you a Felon.
Your comment is that of commonsense and this is Not allowed in the Liberal World 🌏🌏
@@angelokane3458 shh you talking common sense, these idiots dont like that. I despise both sides in gun debate because they both feel its ok to take peoples rights for life. Everyone has right to defend themselves peeiod.
How many of these so called gun rights morons will say noone who ever did anything wrong ahould be allowed their rights? Ill tell you, almost none. Well since they feel its ok to take peoples rights for life then i say those hypocrits are threat to society and that their right to liberty should be denied. Lock them up and never allow them their rights to see if they finally get that rights are for everyone
@@angelokane3458 Absolutely, and people are finally starting to come around. Whether it be through a peaceful awakening, or a new kind of civil war, we are going back to a constitutional system in the future. So many people are starting to wake up to this BS.
I still love the "I lost *all* my guns in a boating accident" quote.
It’s actually a very irritating, watered down quote that makes gun owners look like cowards. Need to be loud and proud on everything you own and tell any person threatening to come for them to F**K off
I saw a meme of Robin saying that. Batman slapped him and said, “if you have to say that, it’s time to start using them!”
Reminder this is just a meme I saw, of course. Federonis chillax.
In Uruguay we have:
- Universal background checks
- Universal Psych exam
- Universal Medical exam
- Needing to go through a gun course and a test with the (equivalent to) SWAT
- Proof that you make enough money to support yourself and dependants and job antiquity of at least 12 months making said amount (subjective). This proof needs to come from social security which we re all obligated to be enrolled to and all of our paychecks to go through it by law.
- We need to provide proof of residency
- We need to provide fingerprings
- The balistics of the gun are registered (extractor and pin markins, etc)
Everything needs to be re done every a maximum of 5 years or when you buy a new gun
YOU CANNOT CARRY YOUR FIREARM OUTSIDE YOUR PROPERTY unless you:
- Do private security of valuable goods (like armored trucks of money)
- Are police and in uniform
- Are military in uniform and on duty
- Are a Judge or prosecutor
- have a credible and recent threat on you or a loved one (like a mafia boss putting a hit on you or ar ex who tried something before and is on the loose)
And then you need to carry it opened always.
Even if you go through all of it, you're capped at .45 caliber.
No military style rifles
No semi automatic rifles of any sort (even if non military)
No Auto EVER
No hollow point
We are capped at 3 firearms
Guess what? US murder rate is 5.0/100k uruguay's is 8.2/100k
there are around 500k registered firearms at an average of 1 per person. Out of 3.4 citizens. Around 700k illegal weapons, not acquired legally (stolen from police, military, or through smuggling)
So, not only there's a lot of murder, but they have more guns that the police, military and legal gun owners combined
GUN CONTROL DOES NOT WORK!
Federico Olivares thank you for that.
now tell that to all the countries where gun control does work ... like pretty much every european country.
Aidyn Altanessi you can’t do that, The US is bigger than all of Europe. To make it even close, figure the entire continent and compare your numbers . Now look at other types of murder. Assume all guns we are aware of Which are the legal ones are gone. Using the killings from EU, do you think it would make a difference? Now what about those guns we can’t trace? Those are gonna be the ones mostly used by felons , as much as we tell them not to, they are the ones using them. Not the people you want to take guns from. I won’t even get into the whole reason for the 2nd amendment. Your argument is just a stupid one. And if the next argument is about saving all those kids lives, Let’s put an end to abortion and save Millions of lives and work on the others after we fix the biggest threat to life in this country
Aidyn Altanessi do ya got a response for my mate stanfield?
Criminals will follow none of this it does not affect criminals in any way.
The only law criminals follow is , the right of the people to keep and bear arms,shall not be infringed that is the only law criminals follow.
I like how Vox's "Senior Correspondent" is about 17 years old
Aidan W “17”? fucker’s balls haven’t even dropped yet! lolololol
@@chaddmeasel2490 yeah I guess I was being generous hahaha
😆🤣😁
Reminds me of when I looked into selling life insurance. The trainees were called "District Managers" because it sounds nice.
Right he does not know crap about life yet.
The fact that people actually think this is ok is not ok.
This is not okie dokie.
I couldn’t have said it better.
The fact that the people they asked were cherry-picked for polls in order to try to apply peer pressure to everyone else is not okay either
This can be said about many things nowadays unfortunately.
@@ZX6R2KGT no kidding.
Please, please, please...continue to take these people on!
“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery”-Thomas Jefferson
While he might of said that he sure as hell wasn't rushing to arm his slaves
@@AlecWelsh-ut7cc naw, he just fought a war.. with layman on his side
Alec Welsh Talk about taking words out of context.
Another way of saying i have guns for my slaves so I'll never be 1...
@@AlecWelsh-ut7cc you should probably research the topic. Although Jefferson had "slaves", he wanted slavery ended.
there is a japanese saying "one sword keeps another in its sheath" taking someone's ability to defend themselves only makes them a easy target for the wicked and the tyrant.
Well that's exactly what the enemies want (leftist/liberals), the population to be defenseless. When bolshevism took over Europe the population was defenseless, the Europeans now dying from terrorists are also defenseless. You may not be aware since the mainstream shill media will never touch on subjects like this, but communists are trying to pave way to coups right now in south africa and latin America
The leftist media outlets like this Vox shit don't want to protect lives like they claim, they want to attack our rights to weaken us
George Herbert said that actually.
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess oh dear look at the state of this comment
Not partaining to the conversation here, but I think I have found my new favorite Japanese saying. I'll have to remember this one...
@@Phoenix-to7vl it is a cool one o heard on metal gear rising for the first time.
If the government was actually worried about people dying they would go after tobacco and alcohol. Cigarette smoking attributed to 480,000 deaths per year.
Lol instead they're attacking the very product actually getting people to quit smoking.
That's tax money, they wouldnt want to lose a penny of it
bdcollar yeah we need a department that enforces those! Will call the department of alcohol and tobacco and F..... oh!
The power to give life does not rest with the government. They are our peers not our zoo keepers. They have no real pretence of doing so either even though families describe how regulations destroy families and businesses. They are far from saints, as Donald Trump would say, not even close.
Under the pretense nothing can fail nothing will get done either as everyone doubts every thing. Involuntary mass discipline by humans fails every time.
Exaxly5my response to every sjw who says they want to ban guns to "save lives"
Vox: “we’re not advocating for some minority report style tyranny”
Also Vox: Immediately proceeds to describe a system that is the _literal definition_ of a minority report style tyrannical system....
I truly fear for our future if this us the intelligence of the average person...
VOX's target audience are millenials and leftist indoctrinated sheeple...
Instead of criticizing you should PROPOSE SOLUTIONS. But of course all you pro-gun retards NEVER propose ANYTHING to prevent mass killings from happening. You NEVER propose ANYTHING. Saying that licensing is "horrible" and that "waiting 6 weeks to get a gun is not normal" shows just how selfish you are.
Lol where did they describe a minority report style system?
You have comprehension issues. The entire fuqin video is advocating for minority report style FOOLISHNESS. People like you are what's wrong with the world, no matter the facts you see, you don't give a damn especially if it goes against your agenda. You're FUQ'D!
Immediately before saying thus guy is not describing one even though it sounds like it. And the rest of the video following where they confirm the person with no issues might not get a gun
"96% in favor" i don't know about the rest of you but no one asked me what i think.
Where are actual human beings when these polls are taken?
Guinea Colleges mostly.
Where all the commie brainwashing begins.
I still think it’s crazy that propaganda can put you into so much debt
Because you're in the 4% percent.
96% of the people inside the vice building is what they meant
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Why do these people ignore the fact that the black market exists and always will exist? Who do they think sells illegal drugs?
Prohibition and the Drug War were enacted by old white men, but a gun ban is different because it would be implemented by a new, multi-cultural society.
@@thatguy22441 there is absolutely zero legislation that will change anything about mass shooters or criminals.
They also act like guns sold in private sales just appear out of thin air. If I'm selling a truck, I'm probably going to decline the sale if I start to get the sense that the buyer wants to use it to plow through a parade or some shit. Even someone who's too selfish to be deterred by the horror of the possible act would probably avoid the sale just because they wouldn't want police all over them for selling a device used to harm a bunch of innocent people. Why would it be dany different for someone selling a gun?
It'ls a rhetorical question, I realize that anti 2A types often think literally everyone who disagrees with them on anything is evil and stupid.
Bruno Pereira no offense but I have serious doubts that Brazil is more multicultural than the US?
@@alexhamidi547 it is unbelievably so tons of asians europeans blacks and native people
They should set up a system like this before people are allowed to have kids.
So true!
IF ONLY....
I’d much rather pay for “free” (taxpayer funded) vasectomies for anyone that wants one then pay for abortions.
Preach
Never happen, future voter base
I'd love to see statistics on people who "impulsively buy a gun" with the intent to go out and do harm that same day. This is something they throw out there pretty regularly, but I've never actually seen any _EVIDENCE_ that this happens.
To be fair not all crimes are solved that quick and the data would take time to accumulate.
Dozens of mass shooters have done that
@@nathandkreosote9917 You get that claims are not evidence, right? Just saying it doesn't make it true, you get that, right? Even for someone who thinks they are as brilliant as you do.
@@dienekes4364 Wow, all that for little old me? Cruz did that, Uvalde shooter, and that Dickens shooter bought their guns same day or same week and thats just off the top of my head. I support guns but things like this do happen, recognize it and stop getting your panties in a twist.
@@nathandkreosote9917 Okay, princess. I love how you snowflakes get triggered and then accuse everyone else of being triggered. LMFAO
Funny how she tosses around "every american" believes with this blahs blah. I never got asked any of these things.
Thank you. I never got asked either. We must be the only two
We can make it 3!
Makes me 4th 😂
6
Oh come one...make it 72😃
“If America is having a crisis, it’s the flu, not gun violence”
Well, not the flu but you’re pretty spot on
and yet the flu still kills more per year then covid -19 has so far( may change later).
@@donaldcurry1020 mortality rate and infection rate are a much better indicator of the danger of a virus
There is no china or covid or Corona virus. Wake up. They are fucking up the economy. Just go to the hospitals, you'll see nothing going on. I made a small vid , corrupt Google and YT are taking all my views. They want you home all locked up just watching the bad fake news to keep you in fear.
Ivan Voinov He flexed with the fact that gun deaths WERENT EVEN in the top 10, love the video and agree with his points but that was an american thing to say 😂😭
Kyle Ranney Downplaying of the gun violence going on in US. US used to have shootings like this every month b4 quarantine
"We're not advocating for tyranny. We just think people who have done nothing wrong should be stripped of their legal rights if we suspect that they might potentially commit a crime at some undefined time in the future."
Lol thats tyranny
Because you traded the right for a privilege to take that right from others. You should have known it would grow.
Apply that same reasoning to buying a car, or whatever. A house even, I could see it now, we suspect you might commit a crime in your house. Just saying......God Speed.
I love how the solution to an outdated background check system and lazy government workers isn’t to improve the system and implement better checks within it, but rather to make an entirely new system that’s harder to use and takes longer to perform its duties...
Govt's solution to failed govt policies is always more govt.
The brady bill delayed .my gun purchase by over 4mo because of beuratic lazeyness it took that and hundreds of dollars to get it straightened out how many noticed clinton speach on brady bill was the sAme hitlera in 1939
I was never asked anything, so how can they say all Americans were asked and approve of it?
“People who haven’t done anything bad yet, but might do something bad in the future.” So you want to read minds and tell the future?
@Conservitarian 16 I believe that is the plot in 'Minority Report'
I think that pretty much covers every person that hasnt done anything bad yet.
I think the clue everyone is missing is the transference of guilt in which these leftists constantly engage. Their assumptions about your character and my character are based upon their feelings about and knowledge of themselves.
"You'll do bad things with a gun because I would do bad things with a gun."- notice the quotes.
@@alecb8509 literally the exact plot of Minority Report. It's amazing how so many post-modern/futuristic stories are slowly becoming reality these days, both good and bad.
@@alecb8509 Staring Tom Cruise.
Or the criminals will just... you know, buy a gun illegally
Never seen a criminal that bought a gun legally
@@johnpublic5997 I have. He was a rapper named Kodak Black. he got arrested. lol
Or steal,or make one,or use a knife,sword,car, rental truck,fire, hammer. You get my point.
They kill to get them too !!!
St. Salton when that happens how is a law abiding citizen going to stand up.... thats the easiest question to conceive in the mind if you are smart and not ignorant to danger. Yet its still not convincing enough... lots of people are ignorant to the fact that “”if someone can get attacked so can i””
I’ve been at a gun show, and seen several vendors do a background check on the spot. They physically called a federal office and confirmed that the person they were checking had no major criminal record before they made any sort of deal. Longest one I saw took nearly 30 minutes. I listened in on every second.
This literally boils down to "guilty until proven innocent"
@Jim Man I respect your opinion but would you really claim that the government should allow people with a history of domestic violence or mental illness? These people after all are still American citizens.
@@xavierquentinchad5880 I respect your genuine good intention to disallow ownership of a gun to someone who is likely to misuse it. What is required to address the problem involves much more than good intentions. Laws exist to remove guns and disallow a person who has broken those laws. Those laws don't get enforced, for many reasons. What if we enforce existing laws, and get rid of unenforceable laws? What a concept! What if we do that before we venture further down the road of pre-crime persecution of people for what they might do? What if we remove from society people who are incapable of being responsible for themselves, like those with a history of violent mental illness, who refuse to take their medication? We cannot see every tragic shooting as reason to attack inalienable rights, any more than we can see every drugged driver traffic accident as reason to ban cars.
Guilty until proven influential
Jim Man
“And to destroy someone’s life for any reason except their taking of a life is unjust”
*Theft, kidnapping and counterfeiting would like to know your location.*
@@xavierquentinchad5880 What do you mean by mental illness? If someone has a mental illness but isn't violent, should they still own a gun? What counts as a mental illness? If you include mental disorders, that is a bad thing, because Autistic people, who are more vulnerable, have a right to defend themselves.
“When the people fear the government there is tyranny, When the government fear the people there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
Why not both? I’m sure China fears its people (considering there’s over 1B of them) and that’s why it cracks down on dissent so harshly. I see tyranny and no liberty.
lucas Bendit the Chinese government is definitely not afraid
@@lucasbendit7564 the Chinese people are going to fight the government with what? Chopsticks?
This is a spurious quote FYI. Jefferson never said this.
@@BakersTaste lmao!
If a person is deemed too dangerous to own a gun, why are they not locked up in a mental institution?
They're probably the newest SJW fad. Aka, victim.
They closed the institutions decades ago and here we are they are able to vote and are in positions of power
define "too dangerous" because by the governments ideas if you get into a fist fight apparently you're as bad as bin laden "domestic violence" shouldn't be a reason you can't have a gun everyone gets into altercations it's a reality of life.
They closed all of them
Because the government would say all people are insane! 😂👌💯
I wish Dems/Libs made voting rights as difficult as guns rights.
I have been saying the same thing for years. Whatever new restriction the liberals want to put on purchasing a gun should also be applied to registering to vote.
The Government sucks at doing their job in the first place, so of course the solution is more government.
We can't trust our government, let's give them more power over the people! (Sarcasm)
The government sucks at their job because they steal money from us in the name of "taxes", which is another fancy term for spoils of theft. Then they go on a fucking spending spree blowing our hard earned money on whatever depraved fantasies they have in mind about torturing the masses. These people live to control others. Government and the illusion of authority which does not exist in the fabric of reality, is the most dangerous superstition of all. To think that giving few power over many would make life better is insanity. I rule me. You rule you. Non aggression principle. #anarchy=peace
Taylor family most taxes go to lazy bums who stay on the couch, shoot up, and don’t work(who got their housing from the government)
My SCAR, tragically lost in a boating accident, was one of my best impulse buys. Best use of deployment money... ever.
Copy that solider.thanx for your service
Greenbeef - I'm sorry for your loss, I've lost many good friends in the same way 🤣🤣
Haha I get it now. Newbie to the gun ownership world and just love it .
Next up rifle.
I actually feel so safe now in my big ass home all by myself because of this gun.
I no longer feel helpless if someone tried to burglar my house again.
Thanks for your service....I lost all mine in a spacewalk they just floated away 😥
@@tomrose6292 My pleasure
Apparently they didnt ask any criminals or gang member where they buy guns.
YES! That's the "common sense" they're missing!
You mean where they stole them
Fast and furious.
They just got caught that time.
The more illegal guns they give out, the stronger a case they can make to take them all.
Cuz that's racist bro, duh
They didn’t ask this American about background checks!
"Mental illness" could include a fear of spiders, social anxiety, or even the wrong opinions -- that is, nothing that makes one homicidal. Very slippery slope.
Mental illness will soon include the category "global warming denial".
@@Baurakale777 If Bill Nye had his way anyone who disagreed with his point of view on climate change would be jailed as a criminal, he actually said the words.
Stewart Boyer
Bill Nye is the quintessential “crazy eyed” freak we used to lock up for being crazy! But since he’s on the left’s side, he’s hailed as a hero!
Never going to happen.. period
It hurts me that they didn't even talk about the fact that most criminals get their firearms through illegal means...
Because they don't really care about ending gun violence
They also left out the fact most state with extremely strict gun laws have city with a ton of gun crime like Boston and Chicago
The Canadian loop hole..
Bunch of guns banned based on a guy who got them illegally from the US....
up to 97% of people get guns through illegal means that commit a homicide
@@jadoncampbell2740 and almost every single School shooting was done using an illegal gun, other ones were guns probably purchased by the perpetrator’s parents
If don’t have the right to defend yourself then you are property.
You already are property. It's why suicide is illegal. It's a felony to destroy federal property.
Plato's Republic is pretty much their model- everyone below their beloved Philosopher Kings is pretty much property.
100% all free citizens have the right to keep and bear whatever arms they choose. The only prerequisite is being free. Period. If you were released from prison this morning or from the mental ward yesterday you have same rights as the next person.
@@FreedomInc It's terrible that there are so many unconstitutional laws. Plus law enforcement is enforcing these "laws" which makes them criminals, ironically. These people who keep giving up their essential liberties for security, deserve neither.
@@neowolf09 I agree with that. I tell people daily cops are the true enemy of freedom and individual rights.
In Oregon. I just filled out my background check 9800 in line. Expect 6 to 9 week wait.
Last time I was this early politicians still cared about serving their people
Holy shit how old are you?
so wait..... when was this the 1800s?
You mean never?
@@derekwbooker93 indeed
@@nullwii Think it was before that
The founding fathers would have cleaned house a long time ago.
Yep
That's why they keep pushing... America is soft... let's not talk about the TRILLIONS rainbow, pencil necked bankers are stealing from us DAILY....
@Howling Frog exactly... we could have rebuilt the country twice, paid reparations and gone to mars with all of the money stolen that's now being hoarded and doing NOTHING for our economy.
"It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war"
But when the food runs out, it'll be the gardeners laughing at the warriors.
@@Phoenix-yk7ne gardeners aren’t farmers
@@andrewvuu7030 yeah
@@Phoenix-yk7ne Not when the warriors have the gardeners at gunpoint
The warriors could just grow food too, but what is a Gardner going to do? Try and smack a warrior with a shovel?
I’m from the government and I’m here to help.
WHAT A JOKE
The last time I bought a gun, the "instant" background check took 20 minutes.
Mine took 3 days.
Same.. bloody well gave me enough time to keep browsing the shelves and get a second gun...
Waited 5 minutes and they said come back in 5 days. Lol
yeah 3 days here aswell
Mine did too. They said that wasn't uncommon for a Saturday when more working class people such as myself do most of our gun buying. They used the time to show me the specifics about how to clean the gun properly. Good folks.
My thing about these surveys.. I was never asked. They only ask people who THEY think will give the answer they're seeking.
"impulsively"... like when a WOMAN
buys a gun to protect herself against
an abuser/stalker who wont wait
THREE WEEKS
And if he uses a gun to harm her while she is defenseless due to these "solutions", they will use that violence to further justify their "solutions" that left her defenseless to start with.
@@YMF1891 Sorry ma'am ill be back in 4-6 weeks.
Geez that got dark real quick. Lol
@@9drtr well yea we gotta make sure nothing good comes out of the situation. The baby was creared thru rape therefore it obviously has less value than a normal baby.
@@ExxonYT To the left, no baby has any value.
There was a woman who applied for a license for protection from her ex who didn't care about the PPO she was killed before she got her license to be able to defend herself
The vice video summed up:
"The government is doing a bad job, so we need yall to give more power to the government"
@nanda erdhani uhh, it actually does the opposite
@nanda erdhani I dont think that means what you think it does
I love liberal logic.
"Public schools are producing functional illiterates - we need more public schools!"
The government is doing just a fine job on firearms. Its other things that need to be focused on besides firearms in America
It's not a vice video, it's a vox video, but based on your opinion it's obvious that you are not concerned about nuanced or details.
Nothing says Power to the People better than the people being armed.
How about not needing to be armed because of some vague fear.
@@saunleecoetzee9170 spend a month in chicago and detroit and get back at me. Maybe Venezuela too.
@@saunleecoetzee9170 If you lived near to where I live, you'd know that any fears are based on what actually happens there, daily. It is proper to fear those who don't fear the Law.
@@michelmakeer7624 I am a South African, I do not live in a 'gated security village', or an elite suburb. I have lived in Hillbrow[Jhb], Point[Dbn], Central[PE], and a number of informal settlements. There is violence and crime, poverty in the extreme alongside great wealth.
Most people are not armed with firearms. Those that are kill a lot of people, they are slowly reducing in number as is the overflow of automatic weapons from the Cold War proxy wars that flooded the country, adding to those the Apartheid government inserted. As the number of guns reduces so do the killings. People killed in crimes of poverty, escalate when all the poor have in the way of dignity are their 'guns', and trust me it is not the rich being shot.
The prevalence of firearms in the USA provides the absurd degree in which 'Officer Safety' exculpates LEO's from accountability in excessive force shootings. The dual profiling of race and crime added to the 'likelihood', have given your police virtual free-fire rules of engagement. In my military training and operational service there had to be clear presentation and intent to fire a weapon in order to employ deadly force. Also your ridiculous stand your ground and castle domain laws make shooting someone relatively unproblematic, in some states you would serve more time if you hit your opponent with a stick and they survived. If there is crime in your neighborhood, sort it out, speak to the authorities as a community, speak to the gangsters as well. Often in an oppressed society it is the best that become criminals, they are reclaimable. That is patronizing I know, nevertheless true.
saun lee coetzee the problem is that the “authorities” may or may not have an incentive to help the community or its people. You are assuming that those in power always have the best interests of their people at heart and will act accordingly and not based on whatever ideology they may hold. A free citizen should not have to justify or advocate for their rights from the state. I’m not talking about perks or privileges that others provide, I’m talking about the freedom of speech the right to challenge authority if their “solutions” punish more good than bad and the right to defend yourself from others attempting to strip you of your rights whether it be a criminal or a tyrannical government. Negotiating with people that want nothing else but to keep taking means they will continue to take until your either dead or submissive. Which is why the 2nd amendment exists. What you’re talking about is appeasement. You wanna talk lets talk but don’t demand dialogue when you’re trying to kill or take from me.
Anyone heard of "Innocent until proven guilty?"
with red flag laws, that's getting thrown by the wayside. :(
@asvpadam2x yeah that's about it.
Just use their own sentiment against them with the shoe-on-the-other-foot consistency test with someone they agree with in the same situation. If they make special pleading for the same things because of whose doing it, then you know they have double standards.
@@GTA2SWcity That works with people on the right too. Its like the entire republican party forgot how they were prior to the 2016 election.
@sense Works with everyone. That's how and why I temper my criticisms of others.
Vox: "Don't worry, this isn't a minority report situation."
* Provides no reasoning how it isn't *
And what happens when "scary black guy" or "loner white guy" gets denied with no priors....
Termigast S what happens is something called “tyranny”. To deny people the right to defend themselves goes against natural human rights itself.
@@Leco070 I could not agree more
They acquire one by other means.
"So you're gonna throw up some Minecraft character and call him dangerous man 2.0"
Favorite line ever lol
🤣🤣🤣
I heard from a friend of mine that drug dealers get their drugs from drug shows.
Yep they use them pesky loopholes
😂😂😂
That's sounds like a good time
Frank Reynolds it’s not hard to get really some of it you can make right at home
The government should require a prescription to buy drugs to prevent illegal recreational use......................oh wait, never mind.
None of this has worked in Maryland. Especially in Baltimore.
I love when they say things like "All Americans". There are over 350 million people in the US. And I don't remember answering the question.
Me too. Every person I know that is a gun owner, just about all of them are gun owners, would never agree to this nonsense. Its propaganda communist style.
They make sure that they poll the people that fit their agenda
They only poll the people in their SMALL circle. Where I live everyone has a gun, and we don't take classes or buy a license to carry guns. Open carry or concealed, it's your choice, and more importantly, it's your RIGHT.
Yeah, that is a bit of a stretch for them speaking for us when they never earned our trust and respect.
No polling is going to ask EVERYONE in the country, that's ridiculous. However their polling is supposed to encompass a wide variety of people and backgrounds in an attempt to make up for the inability to poll the whole country. But when they make statements like that it's obvious they just mean group of people that were polled that are representative of the country. Now if they did a bad job in their polling and only choose to poll people with specific opinions them they would receive scrutiny from the community and likely wouldn't be doing any other pollings after being exposed. And then any responsible news sites would pull down any content relating to that information or risk themselves from also being scrutinized and lose subscriptions and money.
From Canada, I support America's second amendment.
Thank you!
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MrPat5305 Thanks bro!
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From Hong Kong, so do I.
@@t0x1cl, Believe me when I say this, Americans stand behind the people of Hong Kong and your right to be free.
From spain so do i
If licensing works then how come drivers licences doesn't stop accidents or drunk drivers
And driving isnt even a right. But owning and carrying guns is.
@Aaron Kiest because the license is only to drive on state roads. Plenty of people buy trucks and use them on their farm only. Its also a great alternative to buying your kids a 4 wheeler or go-kart. A cheap 500 buck pickup is farm equipment and fun to drive around.
Missed vehicular homicide as well.
Or stop people from driving on a suspended license
@Aaron Kiest I have had anti gun people, the wife of a great mechanic to boot, tell me you have to have a license to buy a car before so I don't assume anything when it comes to statements like that. And to that let me ask you a question. If you have to have a license to buy a car but you have to drive a car to get a test for your license how would anyone get a car? Also having to have a license to own something that is not inherently dangerous by itself is stupid. I can see having to be licensed to keep something like 95% peroxide or something that can at room temperature conditions degrade into a contact explosive but guns and cars sit where you leave them and will do nothing unless someone uses them. That 95% pure peroxide though, a week or more at room temperature can give you a bomb that can spontaneously ignite or explode. So be free, have guns and cars and remember if you have hazmat compounds to follow all applicable safety precautions, because it would be a shame to loose your trigger finger.
The more vague the question, the more vague the answers will be
So...
Freedom of speech is a “right.”
Should I have to go to a “speech safety”
class before exercise the right of freedom of speech?
Don't give them any ideas man...
They already are doing this. They cry all the time we need to arrest people for anything they dont like
@@jonathanscheib6480 Yeah, the vague interpretations of "hate speech" are used liberally to try to destroy anyone that offends them.
"Inclusionary training"
Did you go through a speech safety to voice you opinion about this topic.
I love the point about the 1st Amendment. Imagine hearing "To exercise freedom of speech, you need to go to your local police station and fill out an application for a license. Once you register, in 3-6 weeks you may or may not be able to say what's on your mind."
Wow this is actually a really good way of putting it. Deadass.
Public speaking never killed a child due to grouse negligence.
Mattew Payne two things wrong with your words.
1: speech has killed people due to gross negligence. Think about that girl that talked her boy friend into killing himself. There’s also the cases where people yelled fire or bomb which led to people being trampled to death. What about cults using speech to convince their congregation to kill themselves? Free speech has led to death in many different fashions. We shouldn’t take away the right to free speech because some people suck.
2: it doesn’t matter. The reason the founders gave us rights is so that the government couldn’t interfere with those actions. It doesn’t matter if fire arms lead to death, as long as it’s a right, it can’t be infringed. It doesn’t matter if it’s speech or the right to own guns. It’s a right.
You shouldn’t be so complicit in the government infringing our rights. If you want gun control, call for a new amendment or a constitutional convention to change the constitution. Don’t make the words meaningless, otherwise the government has supreme power, which no one wants.
I know its not always appropriate, but this cannot wait any longer and I fear for the safety of an innocent mexican who believed in the constitution and exercised their rights, the police violated civil rights to put an innocent man in jail. I kindly urge you to at least view the article and feel free to share. I do not expect donations. I just want you to take a look at the important article that no one is talking about. Everyone talks about the young kid named Kyle in Kenosha but what about the many, many stories of innocent people like this man in Texas?
www.gofundme.com/f/help-save-my-son-NBPD-profiled-him
Please go visit the site and share the message. Please.
It would prevent people from impulsively saying what they want lol 😆
LOL "it just misses all the people who haven't done anything bad yet but might do something bad in the future" They are totally insane. That's literally everyone.
It *could* be anyone. It *won't* be everyone. Either way, it completely subverts due process, adds vindictive impairments to rights, and literally gets people killed just like waiting periods do.
A waiting period doesn't stop a maniac. They'll go through the BS or steal a gun, assuming they don't *already* have one. Society has to *react* to maniacs, because generally we don't know they're going to do something *until* they're *actually* doing it
As a MA resident, you practically nailed it! In my particular town, they will give out LTC’s with a “hunting and target” restriction until you’re 25 years old. If I lived about 1 mile away in my adjacent town, I wouldn’t have any restrictions. And if I lived about 15 miles away in Boston it’d be quite the achievement to exercise my constitutional right without “breaking the law”
It's kind of like "1 kid poops in his pants, so we all have to wear diapers." Not a solution.
Dude, I have manic depression with hallucinations. The only thing keeping me from buying an assault weapon and 10,000 rounds is the honor system and the fact that my extensive record of mental cracked up shit from when I was in the service is not entered into the background system.
@@RamusHelstein And yet you drive and no one gives a shit.
@@RamusHelstein "assualt rifles" is a made up term. Plus buying that much ammunition is extremely expensive so yeah and I think you're giving a bs story just to push a narrative sorry but I'm keeping my guns wheter you like it or not.
LOL, how?
@@RamusHelstein this guy is on every comment thread. another member of the $0.50 army.
I do love these lies these people are perpetuating, America never give up your freedom you don't want to live in a country like mine.
Copy that mr Thompson. We in america have learned alot from your stastics.we will fight to keep them.and that may not mean fight in court
I will be right be side y'all
So essentially, people who know nothing about guns or it's laws, tells us how guns should be distributed.
Kinda like Biden giving "instructions" on how to use a pump action shotgun for self-defense... Absolutely laughable!
@@DonyaLane Biden 2020 keep crying
@@DonyaLane Biden won
@@brat-b8h , I said I was LAUGHING, not crying!
@@brat-b8h if the dead could legally vote, I'd agree with you.
But I see why the dead voted for him, he has about as much charm, charisma, energy & enthusiasm as the dead.
Most of my gun purchases have been impulsive....
I live in Germany, and how many people know, we have pretty strong gun-control. But still we have a lot of mass-shootings just nobody talks about them. It´s not the guns, it´s the people
“No state shall convert a liberty into a license, and charge a fee therefore.” (Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105)
“If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.” (Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S. 262)
As it should be!
love this....unfortunately police no longer honor these laws.
Ok. Try that using that logic on 1. Arresting officer 2. The Judge 3. The 'Wokeleft'.
Yeah, the MSM would make you a poster boy for 6 months to a year... Oh not saying I disagree with the premise - just the practice
@@Gibson_Praise fun fact, this worked for me when I went camping at a national park. Game warden visited me while I was fishing for dinner and I showed him these 2 exact Supreme Court cases. He checked it out and told me to have a good weekend. It doesn't work for say, a drivers license, but it works more effectively with hunt, fishing license. Though with enough backing and spreading, I don't see why it wouldn't work with firearms as well.
Wow cool - thanks for the info, never thought of that- so true ...
What if we ALL 'protested' the DENIAL of our 2A Right 2 bear arms without infringement.
I know, it sounds crazy to me 2 - just might work \m/
I don’t like someone telling me that they are going to infringe on my Rights when they don’t have a damn clue what they are talking about! Stick with your knitting 🤬
Right, does that dildo-ey guy in the vox vid have any say in my unalienable rights?
Right, does that derp in the vox vid have a say in my inalienable rights?
Wow, UA-cam really censoring comments now huh? Can't say D!LDO. That's G@Y!
hahahah, they don't even knit. The most mundane people ever...
@@darksorceresszyra9467 lmao! Yeah, they can't do anything for themselves.
*I thought we enjoyed the presumption of innocence until the proof of guilt. If I'm not innocent until proven guilty, then why is the punishment coming before the crime?*
I live in MA. "That entire process" took six effing months.
I'm sorry you live in enemy territory friend.
MA here as well. Its crazy how its different from town to town. Got my unrestricted license to carry within 2-3 weeks and during the interview officer basically said that he wants me to carry when im in town. One town over my friend couple both waited like 3 months had pretty much no interaction with police other than photo and prints and got hunting and target restricted.
And then dont forget approved firearms roster, ak and ar ban and high capacity mag ban. Funny thing as other said without even looking hard i can get Lawrence special easier and often even cheaper. Makes sense.
I ran the hell away from the people's demokratik republik of taxichusetts, where i was wholly unfortunate to have been raised... The entire process took a couple weeks. I haven't looked back once.
Just imagine if we required journalists to get "Fact Licences" before they can utilize their first amendment freedom to press and speech...
Or if they are prooved to have lied or mistakenly assumed something, they are red flagged and have there rights taken away.
That was great lmfao
I know everyone is joking here, but I think these are real solutions to our liberal problem.
They won’t be so cute when we start infringing on their rights.
Why should I need a “license” to exercise a fundamental Constitutional right?
Sea Shrimp the fact is, I DO have the right to keep and bear arms as a law abiding citizen of the United States. If you want to deprive me of that right, then I suggest you draft and pass through both houses of Congress, and obtain ratification in 38 States, for the 28th Amendment to the Constitution which states: “Article II of the Bill of Rights is hearby abrogated in its entirety, and only agents of the United States government may possess or use firearms.” Restricting firearms to the national police forces worked out very well in Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Soviet Union, Mao’s People’s Republic of China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, and Chavez’s Venezuela. At least it worked out very well for Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Hugo Chavez. The average subject of the dictatorial realms, not so much. 100 million dis-armed persons were shot, gassed, starved or worked to death in gulags. The Chicom’s currently have about 1,000,000 Uigurs in “re-education work camps” in western China, trying to beat the Islam out of them. Since you are espousing views opposed to the United States Constitution, I assume you are a Progressive and are NOT a fan of the current occupant of the Oval Office. Cue the Rod Serling voice-over, “Consider, if you will, a nation where only Donald J. Trump and his minions possess, and carry “weapons of war. You are entering the Tyranny Zone.” Seriously, there are many nations on this planet where the people are subjects to the whims of government. Those people are properly called “subjects” not “citizens.” If an elected official, or worse, a faceless bureaucrat, decrees something, the subjects have no choice but to accede to authority whether it is “this is your doctor,” or “get in the cattle car to the work camp.” Look at the history of this nation. In 1776 the soldiers of the King of England tried to seize the lawfully owned firearms of the British subjects at Lexington and Concord, MA. The colonial militia refused to surrender their arms, and shot and killed the regular Red-Coat soldiers of the Crown. They kept on shooting them and killing them for five long years until the King’s armies surrendered. After the failure of the Articles of Confederation to create a workable Federal government of the States, the special Convention drafted the Constitution. But many of the States were afraid that the recently ousted King might just be replaced by a new tyrant in Washington, D.C. and they refused to ratify the Constitution until basic Civil Rights were enumerated as protected from Federal usurpation in the Bill of Rights, also known as the first Ten Amendments to the Constitution. If YOU want to strip the Citizens of the United States of those Rights, you must either amend the Constitution, according to the steps laid out in that document, or you must overthrow the United States government as it was founded. The current legislative activities in the State of Virginia to ban the ownership of firearms by Citizens are un-Constitutional, and 95 of the hundred counties in the state have declared themselves to be “Second Amendment Sanctuary Counties” and Sheriffs and law enforcement officers that have sworn an oath to “defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic” are refusing to enforce the new laws. Governor Northam is threatening to send the “National Guard” to enforce the new laws and seize the weapons that have been outlawed. Do you see any historical parallels here? Fifty years ago I had similar views as yours about private ownership of firearms. As I learned more about the real world, and bottomless well of depravity that is human nature, I came to understand the motivations of the Founders in drafting Article II of the Bill of Rights. Yes, the technology has changed, the Brown Bess musket, a weapon of war, has been replaced by the modern sporting rifle, but human nature has not changed, and never will. The only time that the “lion lays down with the lamb” is when the lion has already eaten the ewe and the ram, and is just waiting for dinner to settle so that he can have dessert. I also took that Oath, and it has no expiration date. I will fight the enemies of the Constitution, here with informed opinion, at the ballot box with the franchise, and, at last resort, on my home soil. Finally, “don’t be ignorant, governments kill unruly subjects WAY more often than law abiding Citizens commit murder.” You may vote yourself into Socialism, but you will have to SHOOT your way out of it.
Sea Shrimp Haha bitch I hope you don’t live in the US, if you do pls move to Canada.
@@SeaShrimp that's untrue. Guns save thousands every year
@@SeaShrimp I'm sorry, but I'm going to need to see your license to have that opinion.
Because men with badges and guns enforce it. And for all the tough talk on the internet, nobody will ever really stand and fight those men.
If I have to ask for permission from government, it’s not a right.
If I were a criminal, I wouldn’t buy a gun at a gun show cause most of those guns are expensive and high quality lol
Your local drug dealer will most likely have a hook up
well theyre usually either dummy expensive or like suspiciously cheap🤣
MASTER-OF- EVIL exactly lol I asked my plug where he got his gun and he show me his revolver to see if I liked it and wanted to give me the contact of the guy lol like nothing is going to stop someone who is trying to commit a crime is just not happening
@@adriant396 that got a good chuckle out of me
That argument for people who "could be dangerous" is ridiculous, every person on this planet has a breaking point and could become violent, but I guess disarming everyone is their goal.
True, but a violent offender or someone with mental illness, especially mental illnesses that cause a person to be violent, is more likely to use a gun to hurt or kill someone than someone just having a bad day.
fun fact: most of these journos fail background checks
It’s absolutely a Minority Report scenario! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Once you require a license to exercise a right, you turn it into a privilege.
Rights are not granted by the constitution. They are recognized. That paper isn't a list of things the government allows us to do. It's an ultimatum of what we'll kill politicians for.
@Hahhah0 Eh, yeah, really. Even if the gov't is _required_ to grant a license, by default, the bureaucrats and politicians will labor tirelessly to invent mendacious or disingenuous reasons to deny said license; first, 'for safety', then by default. Further, the whole point of licensing is to establish the gov't right to infringe upon the individual's right until the gov't infringement is no longer questioned as being its right to do so. When - not if - when this is accomplished then the law changes so that only The Chosen may "reasonably acquire a license." Such is the history of licensing the world over.
Well a lot of mental health issues were unknown when those rights were created. I advocate for the 2nd but I don't think schizophrenics should have firearms and without licensing they have even easier access to them than with it.
DavidSixSixFive Exactly! You are 100% correct!
@@commonsense9173 You mean the same "mental health" issues used to describe completely normal behavior for just about anything? I guarantee you could go look up any type of normal behavior and somewhere there will be a "mental disorder" that the normal behavior can be diagnosed as, the whole mental health thing would be taken a whole lot more seriously if there were not 10000000 made up mental health disorders that again describe perfectly normal behavior.
That whole thing reeks of making sure the "wrong people" are disarmed if you catch my drift
My license is the constitution
"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
Wait is a delay an infringement? I’m pro second but waiting a couple weeks to get a licence is not that crazy
I live in illinois, we have gun licences, F.O.I.D cards, firearm owner identification ..if you lucky you get it in 3 months , a state can not override the supream law of the land and its citizens sould not have to go out and do a months long process to do what the constitution prohibits the government either fed or state from doing they are infringing your GOD given right. I think that's what he is sayin here.
blackknightreturns1 I don’t see how delays are an infringement. I think it is an idea worth studying and if it does decrease the crime rate it’s worth streamlining and applying. I’m fine waiting a couple months if it means less people die. Nobody complains having to wait years to get a driving licence.
@@jamesarrendell9517 you missed the point but I will just say this, No rule..law or regulation, background check, red flag confiscation or licence will stop a criminal or someone who has made up there mind to do wrong, these things only penalize the law abiding people who don't deserve it.
blackknightreturns1 you are also missing the point. A small penalty on the time it takes to get a fire arm has the potential to keep firearms away from irresponsible parents, ignorant gun owners, or at least some straw purchases.
Now is the time we need to fight this administration in government.
*cough* Texas church shooter was stopped by a Good Samaritan with a gun *cough*
You k how being sick is outlawed now....so I wouldn't cough if I where you
Cough he was stopped with an AR15 lmao 😂 but they don’t tell people that
That’s the part they don’t speak on
Ya whoops..
Fun fact: I didn’t know that. That’s actually quite ironic.
“Background checks won’t keep guns away from people who we don’t want to have guns.”
That’s because you don’t want anyone to have guns Vox.
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When you make a right so difficult and expensive to exersise that only a small percentage of people are able to afford it, it is no longer a right. It is a privilege.
Legally speaking there is no such thing as a universal right. All rights are afforded to us and public responsibility is implied. Hence the infamous can't yell fire in a crowded theater and you can't just shoot people you don't like. If you accidentally shoot a child or leave your gun accessible to another person, you should in theory have that right revoked seeing as you violated the public's trust by showing grouse incompetence. The afforded right comes with the responsibility that your going to not be a detriment to the public good.
*cough cough* Massachusetts *cough cough*
I know its not always appropriate, but this cannot wait any longer and I fear for the safety of an innocent mexican who believed in the constitution and exercised their rights, the police violated civil rights to put an innocent man in jail. I kindly urge you to at least view the article and feel free to share. I do not expect donations. I just want you to take a look at the important article that no one is talking about. Everyone talks about the young kid named Kyle in Kenosha but what about the many, many stories of innocent people like this man in Texas?
www.gofundme.com/f/help-save-my-son-NBPD-profiled-him
Please go visit the site and share the message. Please.
Unfortunately we haveno rights in this country. Because they can be striped away without warning or cause. And as george carlin said "a right isn't a right if someone can take it away"
Instead of criticizing you should PROPOSE SOLUTIONS. But of course all you pro-gun retards NEVER propose ANYTHING to prevent mass killings from happening. You NEVER propose ANYTHING. Saying that licensing is "horrible" and that "waiting 6 weeks to get a gun is not normal" shows just how selfish you are.
You know what works better than licensing and back ground checks, harsh punishments for people who actually do crimes with firearms!