Regarding Chapter 4, It's notable that the way Kokichi set that case up gives him a plausible case to deny being responsible for the whole thing. *He* didn't kill Miu; Gonta did. As well, he manipulated Gonta in such a way that Gonta would accept the blame for killing Miu. Ideally, Gonta would've been pressed during the trial, admitted to killing her and cited the secret of the Outside World as his rationale. This would've allowed him to enact his plan while sticking to his philosophy of not killing and disliking murderers. Of course, he *is* ultimately responsible for their deaths, but by giving himself an out he's able to, perhaps ironically, lie to himself about his own involvement in the case. Then the trial actually happens and it turns out that due to a glitch that Kokichi wasn't expecting, Gonta doesn't remember killing Miu. Gonta swears up and down that he didn't do it and would never do it, and Kokichi presses him pretty hard to just confess. I think this is not only because Gonta is the culprit, but because Gonta *admitting* he's the culprit is important to Kokichi. If Gonta won't admit that he did it, Kokichi is then forced to confront the reality that he is ultimately responsible for sending two people to their deaths even if he didn't directly kill either of them. He became what he hates, and he can't lie to himself about that.
I agree with everything here, but it kinda hurt when he keeps on forcing Gonta to talk when he knows nothing. He even asked him why is he so dumb. That must've hurt for Gonta.
@@norasss0 Oh totally, but that kinda just feeds back into the idea that Kokichi trusts *nobody.* It isn't until Shuichi puts forth a reasonable case for why Gonta doesn't remember that he relents; until then, he just assumes Gonta is out for himself or really *is* so stupid that he forgot their plan. It seems ridiculous to think about, given the way Gonta is, but Kokichi just doesn't trust anybody. Even during the debate scrum for this case, he rebuts Tsumugi's claim that Gonta is a sweetheart who wouldn't hurt anyone by stating that *anyone* can commit a murder, even a supposed sweetheart.
@@CambriaBold Yes, I know all that, but what was I saying is that it hurt Gonta, he has feelings too. That's all. I said "I agree with everything here" so?
YEAH! Really I think he was one of the most well written characters I can think of. I feel like the team really tired making him be a "bad" character, because then everyone in the game would hate him. Thus his plan going on to work better. Really just an awesome character.
i feel the same with komaeda, though i love komaeda more than him and their fanbase's suck but i've met non toxic fans of the two (i'm one myself) most komaeda fans ship komahina (again as i do too) but there are most of them that get mad if you say "komaeda isn't gay" or "how dare you not ship them >:c" and it's really annoying i hc him as bi because i ship komanami and i hate it when people call komaeda a "psychopath" because he's not, his mind functions differently than everyone else because of his FTD :c his moods switch often and he lacks empathy due to ftd (those are a few symptoms) that's just how i feel and i'm not a toxic fan of them so i try not to mention this around the fandom because i don't want to be assumed a fujoshi or a fangirl or toxic or something :")
@@rosiewatson5432 i also agree! i feel like people should give him more credit for what he did even tho he made gonta kill i feel like kokichi deeply cared about everyone he sacrified himself too. hes just a misunderstood person not a hero nor a villian
i think he is moral if the moral system youre talking about is consequentialism! although people do usually have "mixed" so to speak systems so i suppose i can understand how hes morally gray
He hides his real emotions behinds lies [SPoilers] But during gontas execution those tears were genuine. He just probably realized nobody gives a crap about him and went insane again after gontas execution
@@MaskedSpringtrap this is why I hc kiibo being kokichi's brother, because even when Kokichi bullied him, he's the only one who actually believed Kokichi's last known words.
I feel the same way! Also, I feel like the way he expressed actual emotion, which had to be very hard for him, was to be angry. He started yelling at Gonta to make excuses, and I think that was because being angry was the easiest thing to over exaggerate and still seem like an evil person. But when his mask broke a little and he actually started crying, he over exaggerated that too, saying he wouldn’t cry for Gonta.
@@gothix7054 well think about it. That could’ve been a lie. I bet he didn’t want to be attached to anyone in case he died so they wouldn’t be sad, or in case they died, so he wouldn’t be sad.
Honestly I don't care if it was real or fake he still did what he did and that was horrible what he did to gonta and Kaito he still caused them to die to get what he wanted
I would like to apologize on how the Kokichi stans treat Kokichi, I also kin Kokichi but how the Kokichi kinnies say he’s a “UwU rat boi” when in reality he’s not.
As some who just started to really like Kokichi's character, its kinda sad how his fandom totally overlooks his actual character. I just wish people would understand him more and not just be like 'cute anime boy go brrr' Yeah, he's cute but there's alot more than just his looks.
I think he's a bit cute, I like his design, but sometimes he looks like a child. Most or some of the fandom does look over his character without trying to understand the point of it and leaving him out to be "an Innocent gay uwu boy" Which isn't his character at all
I believe that he isn't a bad guy, but he isn't the best person, either. He's a guy who did bad things with good intentions. Edit: OMFG YOU GUYS BLEW THIS UP- What I meant was he was trying to end the killing game, and did all of that horrible shit for his mastermind persona as to pull that off.
"Kokichi did nothing wrong" That destroys basically his entire character. Basically Edit: Wow, this comment really got popular, uh? I just want to explain one thing. I know that the title is clickbait, I already did watch the video before I did this comment, I just said the phrase in the title because there are a lot of people who say "Kokichi did nothing wrong" without joking.
ok so I won't deny I said that many times but he did in fact do some things wrong 😔 i see both sides, and definetly i can personally relate to kokichi so- I just don't like how people only see him as a person with no morals and enjoys killing for just the fun of it, yes he had to sacrifice gonta and miu, which I alSo don't like so I see everyone else's side, but I also see his side where he really couldn't have done anything but to rely on gonta, because who else would trust him? Yet again i managed to rant about this but I still stand by my point
Kokichi did many things wrong but it was never his intention to genuinely hurt anyone. He just wanted everyone to get out of the game even if the way he did it was awful and wound up with people getting hurt.
everyone seems to forget, Kokichi saw the secrete of the outside world all on his own. This massive shift in his personality was because he thought he had nothing to live for, and wasn't manipulating Gonta, but rather seeking help from someone who trusted him. he was trying to get the information he needed to to Gonta in a way that couldn't be seen as lying in the other's eyes without Monokuma sensing his true intent, and the only way to do that was to play into his evil persona. in chapter 4, Kokichi was broken and scared; he thought everything he was trying to stay alive for was gone, and didn't want everyone to face that same fate, but things backfired and he had to fall back into his persona as to not be outed. by the time Gonta was about to be executed, he was so distraught over what he realized he had done, that he had a melt down, and had to recover from it by amplifying his persona ten fold. aside from this little neglected piece of info that changed Ch4 entirely, i love the theory you got here
This is not necessarily true. Please recall that later, in Chapter 5, Kokichi reveals to Kaito that he had proposed working with Monokuma in Chapter 4 to "make the game more interesting" in order to determine whether the game was being watched by someone. Since Monokuma went along with this, it proved Kokichi's budding theory that someone, perhaps even multiple people, were watching them. Therefore, because Kokichi knew the game was being watched by a sizeable number of people, the idea that Kokichi has nothing left to live for is plainly false. By Chapter 4, he knows that the secret of the outside world is most likely a lie. Kokichi never wanted to kill everyone, as this goes against his entire system of morality as a pacifist who hates killers (like Maki) and the killing game as a whole. He only had to use Gonta because he was strapped for time, Miu was going to kill him (if not someone else), and he still needed to convince everyone that he was a villain.
Kokichi really seems to do a lot of things for (correct me if I’m wrong) attention and or validation from others. And sometimes he’ll go to in drastic ways use the people who do trust them for keeping up his peraona, which he only keeps up because he’s scared. I might comeback to this if I rember it at a better time to further explain if needed, I’m really tired right now tho so good night!
@@uberpwnage50 He says things along the lines of him having no one waiting for him multiple times, and just because there's people watching doesn't mean there's nothing left to live for. If the only thing waiting for you outside is sick individuals who enjoy watching kids slaughter each other, that's not exactly something to live for. The monokubs keep saying no one is going to come save them, no one does the entire game, and some one took the time to build the entire place they are stuck in and had enough money to do so, it doesn't exactly look good
He's meant to be open-ended, and fits very well into the game's themes. I like to think his relationship to Kaito shows two different effects of lies and truths. Kokichi makes a point that the truth can hurt, and that lies can't always be associated as a force of bad. Kaito always tries to look at the bright side of things, even if it involves ignoring the truth. Despite this, Kaito is more well-liked for the way he will keep his spirits up through beautiful lies, while Kokichi becomes reviled for weaponizing ugly truths.
@@blindbysza Um, I do ship them with Shuichi yes but I don't call him that at all. I don't hate Gonta, Ryoma or Miu at all either I love all three. Maki and Kaito are a different story but I have my reasons that have nothing to do with Kokichi. Can I not have a favorite character that is different than yours?
The fact he’s actually a good, strong, interesting complex character who’s very important to the story but just gets reduced to “smol gay uwu boi” is.. ugh And this is coming from a kokichi appreciator myself
@@spiceyblueroyalhoney1225 Kinning means "believing you are/were that character in a past life" but it's kinda been reduced to heavily relating to a character or thinking you're as close to a real life equivalent to that character
@@polychromatiicaxox Oh, that makes sense. Thank you for the information. I don't think I relate to him that much because I am not so selfless as to turn people against me to save their lives and I don't think most people are, but thanks again.
this is the only true comment here,, everyone else is saying "he had completely good intentions but did things wrong" like bruh do you seriously think that everything he did was for the good of the world lmao
@@ryeanide im pretty sure it's because he wanted them to think he was evil and was the mastermind, and i also think he feels really bad about it, but can't and just doesn't show it correct me if im wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@disgusted2704 That doesn't change the fact that he backed both Kirumi and Korekiyo into a corner for killing someone, called Kaede a lunatic for killing Rantaro, and heavily insulted Maki for being an assassin. His last words also show how he hates killing on a massive scale, and his motive video shows that he forbade murder as the leader of D.I.C.E. This next thing is a personal headcanon that doesn't help my point in the slightest, but I like to think that instead of Kaito voting for him, I like to think that Kokichi voted for himself out of guilt for doing that to Gonta. It's small, but I find it kind of soothing, to be honest. I'm not justifying what he did, that was pretty messed up. It's just that the whole "if he didn't like murder, then why did he [insert action here]" argument really rubs me the wrong way.
I definitely wouldn’t say he hasn’t done ANYTHING wrong, but a lot of what he does is with good intentions, however just because one has good intentions it doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong. But like I love Kokichi anyway and he is crazy smart and amazing. Good job on the video btw!
Kokichi did do wrong things but for a good cause. Much like Kirumi. Sure kokichi’s fandom could basically get down on their knees and suck off kokichi, calling him their “ UWU PWECIOWS RWATT BOI THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED BC HE BABY”. But you can’t really blame kokichi for having a mentally unstable fan base with mostly females
And in the end... he only ever did that because of the killing game. The kind of intense stress and paranoia that is designed to put you under a lot of pressure and make you do thing you normally wouldn’t even think about. In reality, I think Kokichi would be an amazing friend. He seems like the type that rarely forms any bonds, but when he does, they are unbreakable.
Bro stop being mean to Kokichi you shlep! Kokichi did nothing to you, he did nothing bad to ANYONE YOU FRIGGIN CACA! Also Kokichi does not lie! Kokichi is the most well written character in the entire series he is the most cutest, most smartest, most funniest, and the best character ever so shut yo crusty ass lips and respect Kokichi! Kokichi is like better than y’all . He always did things for everyone, he died trying to save everybody while Kaito did nothing and everyone loved him for that like imagine being that stupid to like Kaito like wtf imagine liking Kaito, you probably have no brain if you like Kaito like go step on a lego you cacahead, lookin a toenail hair. You just need to shut up and drink some toilet water like Kaito when he needs to fart. Kaito is literally a stupid crusty lying little poop nugget that his mom sharted out when she was on the toilet and that’s how Kaito came into the world, while Kokichi is an amazing, loyal, honest, funny, smart, and adorable surpeme leader, caring for those he leads, we should be more respectful to Kokichi after what he’s done for everyone 😊
!spoilers! kokichi is quite the interesting character. i think he puts on a villainy persona to hide weaknesses and vulnerability from the mastermind because he knows the second he shows his weak side or lets the mask fall the mastermind will use that to get rid of him. hes a nuisance to the mastermind beacuse he could've ended the killing game (or made a fool of the mastermid and monokuma) had he sacrificed kaito instead and made himself or maki the blackened. he's such a great actor that i think he could've pulled it off. even with this and the fact he had good intentions (somewhat debatable) he is FAR from a good person. i hope i wrote that in a way u could understand. i got a bit passionate. weeby news makes a great statement on this. u should watch it
Y E S. This is what I wanted to hear! I believe he put on the disguise of a bad person so he could trick Monokuma the whole time. I'm not saying he was a good person either, but he did bad things for the right reason. Like for Miu and Gonta, if Miu got her way, then Kokichi would've died without ongoing his plan. He never liked the killing game, but couldn't show that so his plan could succeed.
Personally, I can’t decide between Chaotic Good and Chaotic Neutral, but leaning toward the latter. I guess it depends on your definition, but... it’s not like he’s actually trying to be Good. His whole backstory is just him messing with people. And even his motivation for stopping the killing game doesn’t really come from the desire to for Good... but it just so happened to be completely opposed to his personal philosophy. So he made it his duty to destroy it. He’s fine with *a lot* of bad things. Just.. definitely not with murder.
actually, i would think of him as lawful neutral. though overall he has good intentions/goals, the methods he uses to achieve those goals are... not the best. not sure if it’s official or not but there exist laws of the chart of alignment to help people understand it better and kokichi breaks one of the top rules for the ‘good’ alignment, which is ‘thou must not kill an innocent person’ which he didn’t- gonta, although kinda indirectly. additioanlly, i saw lawful because, he never actually breaks any rules within the game and follows them pretty well. at most, he goes through loopholes but that’s it.
@@Kayta-Linda "Yeah I'm agaisnt murder dude" proceeds to manipulate Gonta into killing Miu when he knew Miu was trying to kill him and could have just not met her
Since i finished Danganronpa V3 at a long time ago i always used to think that kokichi was a little evil brat, but that was when i didnt analize him deeper. Because of that, i finally realize about all the things that kokichi was doing makes sense, even if i didnt forgive him completely, i understand him and respect him. He only wants to save all that he could, he's almost like funny valentine (my favorite jojo antagonist) a "bad guy with good intentions".
I dont know why some people are saying things like: "when kokichi died, the game was wayyy to bored", that logic apllies to any character in danganronpa that was someone "interesting" or "logical". In my opinion every character (with obvious exception) aport something to the game. And saying like your favorite character die and turns bored is literally underestimate the other characters, i mean in V3 we have characters like kaede, shuichi, maki, korekiyo and even rantaro that were interesting. (This is said for someone who likes all the characters in danganronpa, with some exceptions).
Kokichi is a great example of an Anti-Hero. An Anti-Hero is just a bad guy fighting against a badder guy for a good cause, and Kokichi embodies that character trope perfectly
@@reddeath5791 I actually agree with this, completely, but that’s not the definition of an anti-hero. An anti-hero is, according to google, a protagonist or notable figure who is conspicuously lacking in heroic qualities. But both your definition and the actual definition fit Kokichi perfectly.
@@oumakokichi-s4x Huh, I always thought that the definition I gave was what an Anti-hero was, but thanks for telling me what it actually was and I’m glad you agree with me ^^
The thing about Kokichi is that we simply don't understand his motives. There's no way to properly judge him because of this, and that's the whole point. You're supposed to feel unsatisfied and be left wanting more when he dies. The game makes you feel his death, and his true intentions are left for you to puzzle out on your own. Whether Kokichi is "good" or "bad" is pretty irrelevant in the context of the game. He acts according to his own will and that alone, and his character is easily one of the strongest in the entire series because of that.
Being introduced to this fandom at the time I was kinda ruined characters like this for me because of the way the fandom treats them. It’s kinda upsetting how much of the character is just thrown away for the fan girls/stans own enjoyment.
@@ApoIIo_ me too, i hated that whole trial, but at the same time it made me like how complex the series is. but yeah, i didn’t really understand why she had to kill him it also made me upset, i might have to watch the trial over again
I love Kokichi because of his antagonistic actions and his playful personality. Though I do think he partially was just trying to end the killing game.
This is what Kokichi did: -force everyone to do their own thing rather than cooperate because of Monokuma's motives, as seen with Kaede's case. -manipulate Gonta into helping him to get them to watch the motive together, this would lead the group into keeping Kirumi and Ryoma away from each other or observe them at all times. -confirming Gonta's observations about the 'tiny bugs' he saw and asking Miu to create the Bugvac. After using that, he used the microscope, probably found in the warehouse, and discovered the Nanokumas. This explains why there's a microscope when you investigate his room. -giving Gonta a choice of whether or not to end all of their suffering when he found out that the world is in ruins, and knowing his character, he chose to end it. -making Miu to create the Electrohammers to disable the traps in the Death Road of Despair, the remote and receivers to control the exisals and convince them that he was the mastermind, and the Electrobomb to disable the Nanokumas and deceive Monokuma. -telling Kaito about his plan and blackmailing him with Maki potentially becoming the blackened to agree. Also, he antagonized most of the killers: - Kaede, for starting the game - Kirumi, for deceiving and almost got themselves killed (when she pulled the 'everyone should help me' card) - Maki, for being an assassin - Korekiyo, for being a lunatic - Miu, for almost killing him and being selfish (Miu was helpful but in the end, she was too desperate to leave)
He absolutely was trying to end it He knew before anyone else that the only was to beat the game was to just not play But instead of not playing he tries to go further and take the fun out of it He ruins case 4 and reveals the killer just so the "audience" doesnt get the satisfaction of the deductions and figuring it out themselves And by sacrificing himself to create an impossible trial, his hope was to make monokuma break his own rules And if the games rules were to be broken by the gamemaster then who would watch it?
Whether or not you consider it wrong is up for debate, Miu wanted to kill him and he couldn't defend himself against her because of the settings of the virtual world that would paralyze him if she touched him, his actions resulted in Gonta getting executed but it was either make that sacrifice or let his entire plan and potentially ending the killing game with more survivors than intended go completely to waste.
I love Kokichi, the part of the fandom that calls him a "UwU rat boi" i find..Not really good, and the toxic kinnies that are super toxic against people who don't love and kin Kokichi aren't any better..I've met alot of Kokichi kinnies who respect other's opinions and just genuinely love Kokichi, he's just a video game character and we love him lol. (Also i heard that 'rat' is a slur against japanese people, so yuh.)
@꧁Ultimate Supreme Leader꧂ nah i think that a lot of people still call him that a lot, i still think u shouldnt use it even if u meant it in a good way-
Tha-ha-haaank you. There's nothing in this entire series or fandom that makes me want to pull out my hair more than a simple-minded "duuuuurh uhhh ya see kokichi is actually uhm just an evil sociopath who was selfish and he did everything just for shits and giggles and so hehe I hate him". Especially when they try to bring up the whole "Well, he could've just been lying" point in regards to his final words. Multiple characters hint at the idea throughout the game that you should definitely believe a person's final words- Gonta outright says it, hell. This ideology is further supported by the fact that Kokichi had no idea what in God's name a Remnant of Despair even was when he was getting choked out by Maki, which proves then and there that none of what he was doing was meaningless "gaaaah I love murdering insanely gullible high-schoolers". Many also like to bring up the fact that both Iruma's and Gokuhara's deaths were technically on his hands. Of course, most who took the time to do research immediately refuted with "He had to choose between being murdered in cold blood or sacrificing the lives of Miu and Gonta for the chance to cultivate his plans and ruin the killing game for good." Now. I swear on my bathtub, if I hear another person say "well uuuuuhhhhhhmm he coulda like apprehended her or like not gone inside of the program at all man there were other options". To which I say, *THAT'S WRONG!* Let's say, hypothetically, he uses Gonta to knock her out or something. Everybody logs out, no murder happens. What's stopping Miu from trying something similar again? Nobody would dare try to believe Kokichi, who's almost completely convinced the group that he's the mastermind. And if we say, have him skip out on the simulation, if that were even a possibility- there is again a high chance Miu would attempt to kill him again in some way. And let's say even THAT doesn't happen, and despite the odds, everybody believes Kokichi and Miu doesn't kill him. If another murder takes place before he can seize an opportunity to further his plan, said plan would most likely be completely ruined. It's a simple waste of time and whether or not you like how it played out, two people would have always ended up dying anyway, deaths that would be entirely meaningless in the face of Shuichi's decidedly masterful detective work. The way things panned out in V3 was undoubtedly the best conclusion because while yes, Iruma and Gonta died, these deaths set the stage for Ouma's final lie and assisted suicide/murder, which was unarguably integral to the (un)revelation of the true mastermind.
And even, *even* if we choose to disregard ALL of that? In the case that his plan did not work, he still ended up being completely irreplaceable in the final chapter by being super important in the surprise punch of Rantaro's true character. No matter which way you slice it, Kokichi and what he did is in no way *meaningless*. Sure, you may be able to get away with labeling him as a Sociopath, but he is unarguably NOT a supermalevolent-totally-evil-guywho-just--loves-thekillinggame. He is not one dimensional. So for the love of God, I could care less about whether or not you like him personally but just cut it out with the surface level critics of Ouma's character when the game provides us with the framework for the complete truth. Ouma did what he did to ruin the killing game, and his final words were definitely true. This is based in evidence while the opposition finds roots purely in the speculation of his lying habits. Practically every thing he did had meaning. He was left intentionally ambiguous so that the audience could piece together his true motives and *not* for us to simply add to the "well uhhh lie" column. Everything about him was intentional misdirection and pretty necessary delusion for his greater goal of ultimately, helping everyone. And, like him or not- All that with a frivolous smile.. That's just who Kokichi Ouma is.
Honestly, you're completly right, I love the way you explained that, also, remember the insect meet and greet? The reason he did that was so that there'd be a less chance of everyone killing each other because everyone would know who to avoid or they could at least support the ones that had really bad motive videos, so the chance of a murder would be less likely, and since he knew that there were viewers of the killing game, and there was a lot of filler stuff going on at that time, he could've done the insect meet and greet as a harmless but interesting prank, (I'm not saying this is completly cannon but I'm pretty sure that was his goal) but that sadly didn't work out in the end because the events of chaper 2 happened. (At least I think, feel free to correct me if I got something wrong lol.)
If kokichi skipped the simulation Miu would probably try and kill someone else, she had full control and could twist the fact that kokichi isn't in the simulation to try and put the suspicion on him. Everyone is too invested in their friendship especially kaito to suspect her and they wouldn't even believe kokichi. She could get away with it and get everyone including their precious gonta killed.
@@charliotte I cant tell if you’re joking, and I’m sorry if you are, but I’m pretty sure this person is saying that you shouldn’t look at Kokichi like he’s 1 dimensional, not that you have to love him or anything.
Ahem, this is a killing game A game where people kill eachother A game where others die Even the inoccent ones die The people you knew will snap or maybe change completely, because it's a killing game The people that have mental issues can kill,, without thinking, because it's a killing game The people who are experts liers with no harming others snaps, because it's a killing game None of these characters in this game deserves hate, they are literally CHILDREN trapped in a place where they have to kill each other by force, and had to do class trials with no one dying but had to sacrifice the other, because it's a killing game. Now remember these are kids, no matter what, they did not deserve any hate nor dying, because their young, kids are easily controlled even teenagers, they are smart, but not smart wih their actions. That's it, that's all I'm gonna say, I just wana point it out to the people who aren't paying attention in this game.
@@splathermp1341 yeah I know, but still, they were forced to do that, and with these motive stuff, you can't just sit around and do nothing about it (atleast in there situation)
Kokichi is a good character I won’t disagree with that however it’s sad when I see the Kokichi stans treat him like “he’s such an UwU boi he did all the stuff he did for good so that makes him good” when in reality just because one had good intentions can’t just immediately make him a good guy I mean he practically killed gonta an innocent character who deserved better and miu who people bash on despite the fact without her Kokichi wouldn’t have had completed his plan not to mention miu had so much insecurities Kokichi added to that and the fact miu did everything everyone asked of her inventions wise and had some involvement in Kirumi and Ryomas case all in all Kokichi is a well built character and did have good intentions however that doesn’t make him a good person
I really enjoyed your analysis! A lot of people think and dismiss him as the "Nagito of this game" but really, I personally don't think he is anything like Nagito. I personally think he is a mix of Byakuya and Gundham. Byakuya for saying that the game is interesting and he wants to win (tho the interesting part being a lie). And Gundham for saying he is "evil" and wanting to save everyone (Gundham saving them from starvation and Kokichi for the whole killing game).
I actually see him more as a mix of kyoko and chiaki! Kyoko for his plotting behind the ringleader's back. plus, in the fifth fte and salmon mode ending between shuichi and kokichi there's a clear throwback to the makoto-kyoko relationship. For chiaki its a bit more difficult to explain (Im talking about the in-game personality, btw). they both love jokes and games, they have similiar sprites (and hairstyle jcysd) and they both share the same hate for killing and think murder isnt something you can completely forgive. Their role in the game is similiar but at the same time the opposite. Chiaki is an AI, an outsider that doesnt really belong in the group, but joins it anyways to keep her friends safe and stop the killing game, meanwhile kokichi could have been part of the group but decides to separate himself from it due to his paranoia, so he subtly leads (or tries, at least) them while trying to stop the killing game. Aaand they both help the survivors a lot after their deaths. Last thing, chiaki's "belief without doubt is simply a lie" really stuck with me, so when i discovered the theme of v3 was truth vs lies i immediately thought of that. (Kokichi and chiaki are my two favorites from the games yeah did you notice?) Im not really sure this makes sense, but in short, kokichi makes me think of kyoko for his actions and of chiaki for his morals and for his role in the game.
I find this similar to how people misinterpret Kaito's writing as well... It's just so strange how we villanize characters before thinking about why they did what they did. Like Kaito comes from a place of insecurity about himself, and so he lashes out physically to get his point across because his words never seem to be enough. People think he's the dumbest character in the series when he brings up several emotionally intelligent reasons as to why he's not. Additionally, his deception of the class in chapter 5 bounces off of this supposed himbo esque relationship he has with them, when in reality, he's much more intelligent then he leads on to be. Otherwise he would have just left Kokichi to die without thinking about how that affected Maki and the killing game. His motives explain perfectly why he has a brain, and how he uses it in previous chapters to convince Shuichi and Maki to believe in themselves. He just goes about it in a different way, which shouldn't mean that he's automatically dumb just because he uses his intelligence to lean more into pathos then logos.
Shut up Kaito is a smelly piss baby crusty little burnt cockroach that looks like he lives in a toilet lik wtf imagine liking Kaito wtffffff y’all weird. Kokichi is so much better cuz he doesn’t lie or be useless unlike crusty Kaito who is a lazy dumbass who lives in a toilet wtf
I feel the same way about Gonta he's actually very smart and it seems like the fandom overlooks this Gonta noticed aspects of certain murders and his agency in the murder plot aginst Mu. He made choices based on what he saw and he believed he was doing the right thing with a mercy kill. Everyone forgets he came up with the way to sneak Mu's body past the others. But everyone paints him as this big stupid dumb dumb who was lead around blindly by Kokitchi. I'm not saying Oma didn't manipulate him but he manipulated everyone and no one else in the game is painted by fandom as lacking agency or talked about like some poor child who didn't know any better. Gonta made a hard choice because he was pushed to his breaking point. The whole point of the fourth trial was that even good people can be pushed by the killing game to do bad things. gonta is smart and complex darn it! naivety is only one aspect of his character.
@@jawhrahmajid7983 There's a thing called : perspective. Kokichi didn't just do all this because he wanted to. He understood things no one else did, that's why his actions are misunderstood. I can give you a whole analysis on the why he did this or that if you want to. But that's up to you ^^
What is funny is that he contradicts his views so many times, and no one ever notices, all they want to notice is that "he is evil no two ways about it" Which is sad since he is super well written.
30:32 I disagree that Kaito's actions were responsible for Kokichi's plan going down the drain. Yes, Kaito revealed himself hiding in the exisal, but that was only after Shuichi's deductions had given Monokuma a high probability of getting the killer right. The plan was already jeopardised by then so Kaito chose to protect everyone instead. And I don't believe that it's Shuichi's fault either. He couldn't have participated in the plan before first discovering what the plan was, and in the context of the trial all these deductions were done out loud in front of Monokuma. Like we saw towards the end of the trial, it was already too late for Shuichi to backtrack once he found the truth. The only person technically "at fault" is Maki (but I don't blame her, how could she have known?) Her slashing at the control panel was the only evidence of the electrobomb being used. If she hadn't done that, Shuichi's deduction would've ended at "Maki's poison must have killed the victim because the press has a feature preventing it from crushing living people." At that point, Kokichi being the victim was off the table, and since Monokuma was relying on Shuichi's deductions the plan probably would have worked.
Even Kokichi knows how low he sunk when he got Gonta and Miu killed - it's why he let himself become the last victim of the Killing Game. He knew he deserved it.
I love kokichi's character. When i see him, i see a guy who sacrificed his own sanity, morals and life, to make sure the killing game ended. everything he says, i just- know which one are lies and which arent. his last words- it makes me so sad how they didnt believe him :((( he is such a complex character- he just- anazlised, theorised what situation he was in, finding his own clues to confirm such theories. come up with plns, see who is trust worthy or not, who can be used or not- he considers them all his friends, he doesnt want to do this, but he has to cause everyone else in the game wont. He lies to himself, lies to everyone, creates a evil character that everyone believes so easily because of the way he had been acting previously- he understood how the game worked, how to trick everyone, monokuma, audence, fandom, and himself. i really just- feel like he deserved a better life than that :(( no one should have to go throught what kokichi experienced. perhaps this makes senses to others, or doesnt make sense at all. i havent really watched the game, just theory videos, and saw the fandom page of him, also saw other's while at it- i do want to see the game- but i dont find the time to do so ;-;
Kokichi imo is the most well written character. I look at him as the true successor to ending the killing games, which he had a great deal in actually doing. He’s the character Rantaro should’ve been. He was really knowledgeable, knew how to adapt and steer the narrative of everything happening. Basically public enemy number 1 for the true mastermind, without then even realizing it.
Tsumugi had the Nanokumas seeing Miu inventing the electrothings. If she really wanted she could just lie to Kokichi about putting the Flahback Ligth in the virtual world and let him get kill but she didn't because plot armor.
No one, in ANY analysis video denies that Kokichi manipulates Gonta. That doesn't mean Ouma himself was okay with this though, either (he literally begged to be executed with Gonta, despite that meaning his entire plan to ruin the killing game would be thrown away). That, in addition to the fact that killing people directly goes against his own personal morals, makes it apparent that Kokichi knew he what he did was messed up, but felt like, in order for his plan to ultimately succeed, he needed to go through with it.
@@mrchocoslave7859 ah, but, are forgetting the most improtant thing about kokichi? the fact that hes a _liar_ ? however, i do personally believe that in that moment he felt guilty, and kind of just had like an outburst of emotion. let us remember, kokichi is a human being snd jsut because hes the type of person willing to take a role nobody else would doesnt change that fact. if he was being logical, he probably wouldve known that Monokuma wouldnt allow him to be executed along with him especially since at that point he knew that Monokuma was very hell bent about the rules, so there really wouldn’t have been any point in begging monokuma to be executed along with him if he didn’t care. i know afterwards he also says “gonta would’ve been real mad if i telled him the truth back there!”, but againn, kokichi is a liar. and, if kokichi revealed that he did infact trick him and he jus did it for hus own amusment, why would it matter if gonta got mad? gonta isnt the type to hurt somebody intentionally even in a situation like this, so it wouldnt threaten him physically in any way, not to mention the fact that he wouldve died in a couple of seconds anyway, and it would’ve painted him as the mastermind even more.. so there wasnt any point in doing that. at all. i also know that sayijg “oh, this is proof he cared about gonta because of something he says” but then also saying “this other thing he said is a lie jus cause it’s convinient”, so lets also take note of the fact the sprites he uses while having his outburst in his moment, not to mention the tone in his voice. his voice becomes all raspy, hes on the verge of tears, and his fsce is literally purple. kokichi is good at forcing tears but its implied that whenever he uses thise sprites, hes expressing genuine emotion as theyre used in his final moments where hes _heavily_ implied to be telling the truth and he doesnt use it lterally any other times besides the times where he could possibly be upset, aka moments like these!
With all honesty, mostly because of Kokichi’s character and such, mostly as a good-ish chaotic madlad, he should be the protagonist for danganronpa 4, regardless of his death, because we all know that a few characters at least come back every volume. And also, mostly because of the scene of the class trial of him saying the pros directly to the students, shows that there is also some cleverness hiding inside of’em. Plus, it would really be fascinating to see what’s going on inside of his head all the time, knowing he’s truly a liar, as some people also see him as an antagonist. Overall: Kokichi would be a fascinating protagonist in danganronpa, volume 4.
Pretty much. He choose to take that mentality to its absolute extreme, because he was convinced there was no other way of stopping the mastermind in a way that would stop the killing game.
I was reluctant to watch this video because the title suggested that it's gonna be biased in either a loving or hateful way. Kokichi did some things wrong - sacrificing two people is and always will be bad. However, we have to look at the circumstances he was in. Honestly, I think many people would break and go to the extreme just like him when forced into a killing game. And reminder: As he wanted to be seen as the evil guy even by Monokuma, unlike the other students he couldn't allow himself to express his real feelings even when he was alone. Holding your emotions in sucks. Watching people die horrible deaths sucks. He also was the first one to learn the supposed secret of the outside world, so no wonder he was broken af and went to such drastic measures. I find Kokichi a greatly written character, and I love him a lot. I also believe that he had good intentions, but broke under the pressure in his own way, which is why he didn't see any other choice than sacrificing Miu and Gonta. To be honest, I headcanon him as a good friend to both of them in the non-despair au. But try to call him "uwu gay rat boy". I dare you.
People here saying that he did bad things with good intentions and while I do agree with that, what matters is the execution, not the intentions. Sorry Kokichi.
Bro stop being mean to Kokichi you shlep! Kokichi did nothing to you, he did nothing bad to ANYONE YOU FRIGGIN CACA! Also Kokichi does not lie! Kokichi is the most well written character in the entire series he is the most cutest, most smartest, most funniest, and the best character ever so shut yo crusty ass lips and respect Kokichi! Kokichi is like better than y’all . He always did things for everyone, he died trying to save everybody while Kaito did nothing and everyone loved him for that like imagine being that stupid to like Kaito like wtf imagine liking Kaito, you probably have no brain if you like Kaito like go step on a lego you cacahead, lookin a toenail hair. You just need to shut up and drink some toilet water like Kaito when he needs to fart. Kaito is literally a stupid crusty lying little poop nugget that his mom sharted out when she was on the toilet and that’s how Kaito came into the world, while Kokichi is an amazing, loyal, honest, funny, smart, and adorable surpeme leader, caring for those he leads, we should be more respectful to Kokichi after what he’s done for everyone 😊
this video made me realize that kokichi is essentially combo between nagito, gundham, and byakuya, but we just get more insight on the chaos that ensues. it also seems as tho kokichi has more of a method to to his madness that nagito does
Yeah that's true. Kokichi is chaotic like nagito and intelligent and manipulative like byakuya, but he is more emotional than byakuya (also he's funnier) and he is more human than nagito.
if kokichi knew mui was planning to blame kaito for his death and kill everyone else to survive hed have to kill her but his avatar settings made it so he couldnt he sacrificed 2 lives to stop everyone else dying well thats how i view it idk why but i like to see the good in ppls actions jeez that was a waste of time
To the Kokichi comments, personally I like him because you guys need to realise he didn't know Gonta put the wires wrong..and Gonta agreed to it, he didn't say no to killing Miu. Gonta dug his own grave, and Kokichi is the one who suggested to dig it. I love Gonta with all my heart, and was heartbroken and cried from his execution..but he did it to himself even if it switched his personality. The only main thing that made me like Kokichi was how he sacrificed himself for everybody, and no one except for K1-B0 believed his last words..I had to give him the benefit of the doubt. Conclusion: I'm not trying to start any arguements, it's just my opinion..if you have nothing nice to reply to with my statement..just don't say anything. Thank you.
That is literally how Manipulating people work is to get them to do it on their own also he literally said himself that he Manipulated him also he didn't need to know the wires where switched to get him to do what he wanted he used the outside world to do it
@@teartah7422 Kokichi made him think that killing everyone was the best option and I am pretty sure that kokichi wouldn't have let him say no in the first place even if he did besides I am pretty sure the only reason he picked gonta for this was because he was the most likely to do what he says
@@angelcloudcosplay4141 He literally said that if he went to anyone else..they would've refused..you are correct. But Gonta did say YES willingly, at the end of the day. And if he had said NO I'm 100% sure Kokichi would've left him alone because of what he said in chapter 04 after Gonta's execution.
@@teartah7422 and what exactly did he say to explain that he didn't say anything about that and kokichi is the type of person to not stop till he gets what he wants and what he wanted was gonta to kill and THE ONLY REASON GONTA SAID YES WAS BECAUSE OF KOKICHI IF KOKICHI HADNT SAID WHAT HE SAID GONTA WOULDN'T HAVE SAID YES HE GOT MANIPULATED
Kokichi's depth of character made me like him. He made the trials more interesting! Kokichi true intentions and this video really made me appriciate Kokichi more.
Kokichi is the only character I'd ever encountered to give me so many whiplashes. Like I have a soft spot for chaotic characters but, the actions he did messed me up but, I still love him ;-;
It bothers me a bit when people say that Ouma did bad things with good intentions. We can't really know wheter he tried to win the game to save the others or just because he wanted to win. Everything he said can be interpreted as a lie. If he really cared about the others, he wouldn't have got Iruma and Gonta killed. People usually say he had no choice, but to be honest that's pretty naive. Case 4 was extremely easy to avoid. All he had to do was show Miu the "truth of the outside world", which would take all the motivation away from her. He could have even shown the motive to everyone as he did in chapter 5 without pretending to be the mastermind, and it would have worked (that would have also prevented case 5, since Shirogane wouldn't have been able to frame him as a remnant of despair). Or he could have used all her tech to escape the school with the others. If he knew there was an audience, then he knew the truth of the outside world was actually a lie. Yet he chose to get 2 people killed "for the evulz". But besides that, people usually forget all the little bad things he did during the game, like treating Keebo and Iruma like shit, or being generally mean to everyone, for no real reason. Being an asshole doesn't make you complex, especially if your behaviour is never explained. But people usually forget that and view him as a hero regardless. I know that acting like a bad person doesn't make him a badly written character, otherwise all villains would be badly written. I think the main flaw he had that was his mastermind plan was forced and stupid. Momota was right when he called him naive in chapter 3. He had no reason to believe the plan would work. In fact, Saihara did pretty much the same thing in chapter 6 when he proved the mastermind broke her own rules, and it had no effect. Shirogane brushed it off and continued. So even if Momota hadn't spoken in the end, everyone would have died after that trial. His plan about sharing motives was also bad. Thinking that Toujou would refrain from killing just because the others knew she was the prime minister was naive. Someone as strong willed as her would have carried on with her plan no matter what. And there would be a lot more people likely to kill due to the motives. Iruma could have decided to kill earlier, and maybe Harukawa too (I don't remember whether she saw her motive or not in the game, but since she had been killing for her orphanage in the past, it would make sense for her to kill for it again if it was in danger). And yet Kokichi is also characterized as someone extremely smart who can figure things out before everyone else. It's a bit inconsistent in my opinion. Regarding the comments in Weeby's analysis, I think you gave the "dark backstory" theory too much importance. It was just some speculation she made about his past, with not much relevance to the rest of the analysis. However, Ouma's comment in chapter 3 about him and Momota coming from different backgrounds may imply that he had a different childhood.
“He had no reason to believe the plan would work” He literally explains why he believed the plan would’ve worked in his final moments. In his words, “Death games are meant to be watched. If no one was watching, there would be no reason to be such a stickler about the rules… There would be no point in making this a game in the first place… But Monokuma’s been a stickler about the rules, and about making the game interesting. Thats why he agreed to my plan in the virtual world.. Which means Monokuma is aware that someone is watching us… In which case, I have no doubt that this death game is being shown to someone.” (Honestly, while writing this, I realized he literslly never said why that would end the killing game even though he was responding to Kaitos question but Kaito does explain that if they ended up thinking that either Maki or Kokichi killed Kaito, Kaito would come oit of the exisal and Monokuma’s ruling would be invalid and the fans would’ve probably been upset about this, which wouldn’t allow the killing game to continue). So yea, he had a reason. Also I don’t think his idea in Chapter 2 was bad because how could he have predicted that Kirumi would’ve been the killer? Or that her motive would’ve been so serious? And if his plan had worked, that *might’ve* drove the idea that hey- we all have reasons to get out of here, so maybe we all should be wary of each other into their heads like Kokichi was trying to do from the start. Also to answer your question, she didn’t see her motive video. In the trial she admits she ignored the video because she thought it was something stupid, but reguardless, she didn’t even have her own video. I am, however, confused on whether or not the way he executed it was bad, because I initially thought so, but after some thought.. by that point, everybody already thought of him as an untrustworthy person, so he probably wouldn’t be able to gather them willingly, and everybody had already decided _not_ to share the motive videos, so that would be another reason why he wouldn’t have been able to gather them willingly, but I don’t know. A few years late, I know, but if you’re still there, I would like to know your thoughts on at least the execution of his plan. While I don’t really agree with most of your arguments, you do make some pretty good ones. Also yea, I agree, case 4 could’ve probably been avoided if he did what you suggested. I honestly don’t know what to think about it since if he had showed everybody the outside world, Tsumugi probably would have just pulled out the same flashback light motive and they wouldve gotten the courage to fight, a murder would happen and the killing game would have gone back on like normal. besides, that point he was already started to paint himself as the mastermind, and so all of that plannjng wouldve been thrown out the window just for that, making it literally pointless to do. And if he had just shown Miu, she wouldve probably told everybody, and the same outcome. He does also admit that him using Gonta was apart of his plan to make everybody believe he was the mastermind, and I do think he cared about everyone, even Gonta who he sacraficed and so I’m sure he thought that sacraficing them woudlve been better than having either the killing game continue or having everyone die if Miu’s plan had worked. Also, just personally, I think you would be able to call Kokichi a complex character if he had a good backstory, because most of the stuff people think about Kokichi is usually just based off of their own interpretations of his character. But kokichi, with no backstory, really doesn’t have a reason to act the way he does, and the way he acts and thinks led to the things he decided to do in the killing game but theres literally no given reason for him acting like that. Because of this, I wouldve call him complex, more like impossible to figure out. I do think he’s sort of far from badly written, but probably just think that due to the bias of him being my favorite.
@@jaxon1670 Wow, someone replied to my 2 years old comment :O I don't remember the fine details of Kokichi in V3, but I still stand by it. I think Ouma is like a blank slate: there's no truth to his character, and anyone can project whatever they want onto him an be right. There's a massive reply incoming, even bigger than the previous comments. I left a tl;dr at the end if you don't want to read it. But since you asked, here is my answer: About his plan in chapter 5, I don't think he had any reason to think it was going to work. There's no connection between there being people watching the killing game and the killing game stopping if the mastermind was pushed to break her own rules due to some elaborate scheme. The most obvious responses from Monokuma after being told by Kaito that his veredict was wrong were: -Saying "I guess I was wrong. I'll correct my mistake" and executing everyone while Kaito died anyway. -Denying Kaito's claim by claiming to have special hidden cameras that are immune to the bomb he allowed Kokichi to have. He could say "nope, [whoever was voted] did it." and execute that person right away like he did in chapter 1-5. -Forcing Kaito to get out of the exisal before making a veredict, so he wouldn't even have a chance to prove him wrong. All of that makes a lot more sense that going "oh no, I made a mistake. Now I have to cancel the game and free everyone". Why on earth did Ouma think that made sense? And for the record, we already know the plan wouldn't have worked nor came close to working because: -Saihara proved that Tsumugi cheated as the mastermind by breaking her own rules, and no one (neither the audience nor her) cared at all. She just briefly apologized and moved on. And that was a way more serious infraction than getting a veredict wrong because someone sabotaged the cameras. -None of the real life fans lost interest in the game because of that plan. In fact, many people loved it. Wanting the killing game to stop despite enjoying it is one of the main charms of danganronpa. And none of that wouldn't have happened if Ouma hadn't been an asshole and killed 2 people to "look" evil. As for his plan in chapter 2, grossly underestimating Monokuma's motives even after watching his own motive (which showed him how serious they were) was really dumb from a supposedly smart character. That's something I would expect from a character who acts rashly without thinking of the consequences of his actions, not from the "planning mastermind" Kokichi. He couldn't have predicted that Kirumi of all people would be compelled to kill, but he should have predicted that someone would, especially since he loved to distrust people so much. I think the very real risks of showing everyone their motive video outweighted by a lot the possible rewards it offered. They all already knew people had a motive to kill (leaving the KG) and adding a second motive wouldn't have changed much. As for the execution of that plan, I think it was too forceful. It caused needless angst, especially considering all that bug torture. He also didn't need to manipulate Gonta's feelings like that. Maybe he should have realized that if he couldn't convince anyone to follow his plan then maybe his plan wasn't as good as he thought. It's not like everyone else was dumb (see Saihara, who even Ouma seemed to respect). Before that, people thought he was a slimy jerk. That plan made him look like a villain who was actively working against them. But regardless of the execution, I think the plan was bad. I guess the writers would disagree with me, since they had Momota or Saihara acknoledge that the plan wasn't that bad during the trial. As for the chapter 4 thing, I meant he should have shown everyone the motive like he did in chapter 5, especially since a murder was about to happen. I think not expecting Tsumugi to create false memories was reasonable. Even if he knew there were other people out there watching the game, he couldn't have known that all that backstory was a lie. Maybe the spectators had escaped in a different ship. Giving everyone the courage to fight despite knowing "the truth of the outside world" would have been very hard without giving them an enemy. If Kokichi hadn't acted so cruelly just for the sake of it, making him the villain to motivate the others would have been harder. And even with the "ultimate despair" fake memories, no one would have had any real motive to actually play the killng game like Monokuma wanted, since there was no world to return to, especially alone. At that point he had done barely anything to set himself up as the mastermind (only carving some letters on that stone, I think). If he was as smart as the writers say, he should have known it was time to call off his plan, which would have been really easy. He could have used Miu's tools to at least attempt to revolt against Monokuma instead. It was risky, but still much better than his choice. The fact that he still chose to kill 2 people to "look" evil makes me think he was either really dumb or didn't actually care about the group at all and was just trying to have fun and be evil for the sake of it. The story insists on making him look smart, and his actions are weird if we see him as pure evil. That's why I don't think he has an actual character; one can project whatever one wishes onto him. But if I have to pick an interpretation, I'd say he's just evil and wants to win the game to satisfy his pride, even though that partially contradicts his motive video which said he was a pacifist. But there's one thing that is important to remember: Although his plan was dumb and his motive was very shaky, he made chapter 4 really enjoyable. Personally I struggle to think he cared about Gonta since he got him killed instead of sacrificing himself, but I also don't understand why he would fake grief before Gonta's execution. I also don't believe he cared about the group, as he treated everyone like trash (especially Keebo). In fact, he would have pushed everyone to suicide in chapter 5 if Shirogane hadn't intervened. His plan of making everyone fall into despair to remove their will to kill wasn't that bad, but it needed more empathy and hope to succeed without getting everyone killed anyway. Lastly, I totally agree with your last paragraph. Ouma is just like the ending of V3: he may seem complex and thematic, but if you actually look at him there's nothing there. I don't even know if the writers actually know the answer or if they just threw in some contradictory elements because "the theme is truth vs lies", hoping that each fan would write the rest in their head and argue about it. But despite all of that, I don't think Kokichi Ouma is badly written. He conquered the hearts of thousands of people, and that has to mean something. I'm just pointing out flaws and arguing because I find it fun. I still think he isn't deep, though. Haha, what an essay. Thanks for reading it if you did. Ouma is certainly good at generating discussions, which is another point in his favor. tl;dr: I still think Ouma's plans were dumb and I just can't see him as someone who cared about the others. But I don't think he is badly written, because he made great contributions to the fandom and the game.
@@11th-lemon okay so, thanks for the tdlr, you typed a LOT and i respect this but i’m not gonna read the entire thing since it’s pretty late for me but i still want to respond , so i’m jus gonna read bits and pieces- meaning i’m not gonna respond to the whole thing in its entirety honestly yea, when i first went through the game i was genuinely confused on how that would end the game. i guess i understand more now, but i think it was just wishful thinking on his part because yhay was the only other way he could end yje killing game at the moment so he really couldn’t resort to anything else. also, kokichi wasn’t alive for chapter 6- and so i don’t think he knew that tsumugi would possibly just brush it off especially since when he was alive, all the evidence was supporting his thought that they couldn’t mess up the rules. and i also don’t really know what part you’re talking about, being honest.. and also yea, i’ll admit, as a person the game tries to portray as smart, there are a couple of moments like chapter 2 that makes it seem like he isnt- he was so paranoid he wrote an entire dictionary of a script for his potential death, yet he didn’t even consider the severity of the motives or at least just how far one would be willing to go due to it. it just makes me kind of sad that the writers portrays him as this super super smart character yet have these stupid i guess “plot holes” too, like it just doesn’t make it any sense.. i would like to believe he’s genuinely really smart but only when yhe writers want him to be which is annoying as fucking shit 💀 but yea the solutions you suggested he would do were definitely better and i’m sure the writers considered it even but considering as it would probably _actually_ end the game, kokichi couldn’t have done it. nobody can end the killing game unless it’s the protagonist. and also, on the whether or not he actually cared about gonta & the others- let’s agree to disagree before it becomes into a pointless argument that never progresses. the reason why we both think what we do is cs of the fact that like i said earlier, everybody has their own interpretation of kokichi- so it’d be kind of pointless to battle each other with our own interpretations of his character because we don’t perceive the same thing when we see kokichi ouma and his actions, if it makes sense.
@@jaxon1670 Yeah, I'm not trying to battle you. Ultimately I understand to Ouma couldn't be too effective because then the story couldn't work. I do think predicting that his plan wouldn't have much of an effect was really easy and that the plan wasn't his only option, as he actively chose to die to carry it out.
I made a DnD character based on Kokichi. Hardest roleplay of my goddamn life, but totally worth it. my party hated my rogue, sure, but we made a beholder commit suicide, so i guess i did everything right
Although Kokichi did care and was actually trying to stop the killing game and keep others alive even if that means sacrificing others but that doesn't mean he did nothing wrong he did a shit ton of things wrong but he is not mentally insane lile Nagito
Kokichi is an interesting character. He maybe did something wrong but really, he has good intentions. He's just concealing these intentions with lies. poor baby ;-;
@@mrchocoslave7859 Doesn't change the fact that he had good intentions and only betrayed his morals when he believed it could stop the killing game. And even when he manipulated Gonta, he very explicitly struggled with guilt and self hatred during the trial (as shown in his frequent emotional outburst) due to his hatred for killing.
I genuinely don’t know how people can think Kokichi is actually evil. If you look at everything he did, him being evil makes no sense. Sure, he wasn’t a very nice person and maybe not even an especially _good_ person, but he is just **a** person. He was capable of feeling real emotions and having real opinions. Even if they’re constantly obfuscated by his lies, that doesn’t mean nothing he ever said was true. I think he’s a very tragic character for that reason. He’s just a kid, put in this horrible unwinnable situation, and just because he’s sort of annoying everyone assumes the worst in him at all times. Even before chapter 4, whenever he expressed his opinion or had a genuine emotion, they only ever reacted with annoyance or disbelief and assumed he had bad intentions. I get he was rude and unpleasant at times (specifically, at ALL times) but it can’t be easy being ostracized just for disagreeing with the general consensus of the group. They’re always so sure they know when he’s lying, but they are very often wrong. And even when he tells the truth, they don’t believe him, and even then they still don’t understand why he lies. He’s just a kid who wants attention. It makes me feel bad for him. Especially since, after all that, he still gave his life for all of them, even dying in a completely gruesome manner. For the people that never trusted him, were never friends with him, hit him, shot him with crossbows- those people. He died for. Truly was the boy who cried wolf. I think he’s a great character.
I believe Kokichi being heavily misunderstood in the fandom is a natural result of the type of character he was written to be. The main theme of V3's plot is "truth vs lies". Shuichi, as the Ultimate Detective, is entrusted with the job of revealing all truths, while Kokichi is the opposite: a person who frequently lies. Due to the role that Kokichi plays in the story, not only the other characters, but the player as well, have a hard time understanding his actions and his reasons. It's difficult to discern his lies from his truths. Kokichi does such a good job of painting himself as a villanious psycopath that he manages to deceive even the people playing the game. For that reason, I believe he is the type of character who can never be truly understood or explained, but it's still fun to analyze him.
I wouldn't say that he didn't do anything wrong, most of what he did was wrong, but it was for a good cause. This is why the minor antagonists in Dabganronoa are so interesting, they all are people who would probably do awful things for what they deem as 'right'. It's why the minor antagonists are the most popular and loved characters, because they are honestly so interesting and can sometimes be more enjoyable than the rest of the characters.
Hello everyone! im just here to clear/clarify some canon facts on why kokichi isn't as bad as a character, why he saved many lives in danganronpa (not all lives btw) and why he had a twisted personality and I'm going to decode everything that you need to know about kokichi! Soooo lets get into it! And if you think I'm a simp or fan girl or main-kokichi-kin that's not what my points value- I'm saying that ppl of the fandom toxic or not need to stop making ridiculous statements on someone such as a fictional character whom they barely know about much about not to mention someone with a weird personality such as kokichi ouma himself. So enjoy this essay XD (btw spoiler warning and this is my opinion so don't leave any hate i worked hard to put this together so please no hate.) So we're going to start off with kokichis personality. Kokichi ouma was the ultimate supreme leader of "evil". He was a mean snake and was rude to everyone during the time of the game. He made and said his lies, insults, etc..but he didn't necessarily purposely have that personality. As most of the drv3 part of the fandom know he was originally a shy scared fragile but kind person. And for those of you who are confused, he faked this personality of his own. You see, he had a a secret organization named D.I.C.E or more likely what he called family. They only did harmless pranks and fun ones as said in this motive video! He supported DICE as they supported him and they had great relationships. He did get abused more before he joined dice (which were a group of orphans btw). And before he joined DICE he got bullied a lot and was very scared and sensitive by any rude words such as the miu insult "YOU little abortion" and which yes, kokichi was upset by that but sense he over exaggerates his emotions that made everyone think he is faking anger which he originally WASN'T because the boy has feelings ya know...Also he wanted to make DICE proud by surviving danganronpa but there was a twist!! He ended up risking his life for some "friends" and by "risking" yea! I mean he wanted to end the killing game by confusing and tricking monokuma while trying to beat monokuma at his own game. As if the 5th class trial were shuichi uncovers the "truth" monokuma says "kokichi tried to beat me at my own game BUUUT he failed!" meaning kokichi tried to trick monokuma so the killing game wouldn't properly function and monokuma would loose. But that sadly didn't work and kokichi just practically died for NO REASON! :( and most of us who played or saw scenes of the 5th class trial game play, also I've played myself it was great, as himiko said "he's crazy! why would he go that far", well he is a bit crazy, OK HE IS ALOOOTTT CRAZY- but he did it for a good reason. He wanted to sacrifice himself as a so-called mastermind and at the same time wanted to stop the game from properly functioning! So yeah that's the gig for that chapter that decodes why kokichi seems like a snake! Also to clarify, his canon backstory doesn't exactly relate or clear the facts that kokichi deserved better because all that happened in the kg has some to do with the backstory, but it doesn't intentionally mean "he has a sad backstory so i blame all the characters for kokichis words and actions." ok n o . His backstory doesn't determine much but it can have some effects which it did. Next topic is kokichis mixed emotions (which is the ending conclusion of this opinion theory). So as you know kokichi has some weird reactions to when he is physically or mentally insulted. He had to hide his feelings to that his personality wouldn't break its character and it was perfect but not that no one believed kokichi was faking his emotions because of his layered lies but some of the time he wanted for some of the others to warm up to him a little. He couldn't break character because of his plans and he had one personality to use the whole entire game. Also, when shuichi says "your alone, and always will be.." that did bring kokichi to tears. Another thing, he had and had to emotionally distance himself from everyone because he didn't want them to like him (mostly because he in some way knew that their were viewers and so he wanted them to like him more but that's not why he was rude and etc..) but he also made the game more funny and interesting then moreso was most of the time very sad and brutal over all. I think that he is an misunderstood character and he did a lot for the others. Also he gave so many hints in the killing game such as clues, mysterys, truths, and moreover answers to some of the ways certain things happened in the class trial. He was over all a smart character and for those who think he is bad because he did seem a bit messed up i agree with that and he did have good intentions but at the end of the day, he was just a lost soul trying to find a flicker of light for some of the danganronpa participants but at the same time he had to put on an act because without his annoying shitty personality he wouldn't have cracked many clues, we would have ruined his plans by a type of mental break down performance, and his character personality would make the game and some parts of it hard to be happy about. So you see, kokichi is a very interesting character who is deeply misunderstood. So anyway ty for reading please don't send me hate it breaks my heart. Also you may have an opinion on my 'essay' but you can't go against my thoughts and feelings on some of what i wrote that's all bye ^^
Kokichi is my favorite character in V3 Because I related to him on a personal level sorta. I am pretty good at lying so once in a while I could catch His "Lies" but I get/got what he was doing till his final breathe he was actually pretty logical and helpful in his own way. But it's something people can't or won't easily catch the first time. It's like a two faced lie you won't really get it or you'll only understand a half to soon. It's not easy to understand. This video just defines that kokichi is actually pretty logical in what he's doing justifying it Wich I'm happy about. Though it's not ok as what kokichi's plan entails would definitely lead him to his death in the end Wich he did. In the end kokichi was actually a pretty good guy. Though not by half I'd say.
I think it's unfair to say any Danganronpa character is a bad person purely for their actions in the killing game, because their killing game self and 'normal' self are 2 completely different people. Let's say you were to be put in a situation where you're held hostage and have to kill others/ decide who dies and your life is constantly on the line at any given point in time, you obviously would act differently because your in a abnormal situation where the rules of normal life don't apply. Yes, there would be people who would try to keep everyone together and be heros, but there would also be people who would try different means of keeping everyone safe and others who would just crumple altogether, which are all valid responses we've in the Danganronpa franchise. Having a response where someone crumbles or acts like Kokichi doesn't make them a bad person, just someone responding to the environment they have been forced into.
I don't think Kaito not revealing himself would have completed Kokichi's plan. Shuichi already went far enough in his explanation on how Kaito would have done it that Monokuma would have taken a gamble on it. Shuichi would have had to figure out Kokichi's plan earlier, stop his explanation and come up with a better life for it to work.
When i got to Rantaros room with the puzzle, I remembered Twins B and then took horse cause they had similar ears :/ then the game reminded me on how much of a dumbass I am.
Ending the killing game. Sure he’s morally ambiguous as fuck, but he weighed the lives of Miu and Gonta against the lives of everyone who would survive that trial. He genuinely believed he could end the killing game on his own terms. And like hell anyone would believe him about Miu trying to kill him, so he really had no other option.
i feel like the shit he did was really unforgivable especially since he manipulated so many people even if it was for the right reasons i just don't stand by it. personally, i don't like him and i saw some comments saying "oh he's so hated" when in reality a lot of people like him to the point i'd even call him overrated.. i don't hate the guy but he's definitely not my favorite. i think he's a great antagonist and his character is cool but i just don't like him as a person.
Kokichi. Hated him at first but I feel like that's what the game was going for. They mixed bakyagas and nagitos persona. He has both their intelligence, bakygas manipulation, and nagitos destruction.
"Kokichi Did Nothing Wrong" BRUH HOW HE SACRIFICED GONTA I NEVER FORGIVED HIM AT THAT POINT OF CHAPTER EVEN IF HE IS MAH BEST BOI HE DID SOMETHIN WRONG
@Holy Bible not really, I don’t like him still: but there are some pros about him like: -he’s the only one who’s isn’t annoying and says “this is just a game” or “we’re going to get out this together!” Which was pretty annoying throughout all the games if I’m gonna be honest -his design is cool - and he’s funny (ig) And the cons are: -he’s rude -he’s annoying -he’s the reason Gonta killed Miu (RIP GONTA HIJ WILL BE MISSED-* -His whole personality is pretty bad I general and doesn’t show much character development:/ But I don’t hate him. This comment was purely a joke for the lol’s, I don’t hate any characters in danganronpa because there’s no point because they’re not real. But I just don’t like his character/ personality.
Not knowing how to write Kokichi the way he deserves to be written was one of the biggest things stopping me from writing a Danganronpa fanfic. Thank you for this slight character analysis :)
Also I feel a lot of people overlooked the fact he said that no one would care if he died and I feel like this might be a hint that he would die to stop the game but that might just be me
Love this video, great job! It’s really refreshing to see an in depth discussion of this character, I personally love him so much because of his weaknesses and failings. But he is also one of the few danganronpa characters who come really close to ending the whole killing game. Any one-sided opinion of him (mainly that he is innocent and adorable or an annoying, liar, evil guy) clearly isn’t gonna work.
I like Kokichi. He was a great antagonist and while part of me is disappointed that the other characters write off his motives in the end, I think he had one of the best arcs of the series. I definitely feel like Kokichi is a good person, although I’m a bit of an optimist in that regard, but I realize that he’s not an altruist. What I’m trying to say is he’s a well written morally grey character
Regarding Chapter 4, It's notable that the way Kokichi set that case up gives him a plausible case to deny being responsible for the whole thing. *He* didn't kill Miu; Gonta did. As well, he manipulated Gonta in such a way that Gonta would accept the blame for killing Miu. Ideally, Gonta would've been pressed during the trial, admitted to killing her and cited the secret of the Outside World as his rationale. This would've allowed him to enact his plan while sticking to his philosophy of not killing and disliking murderers. Of course, he *is* ultimately responsible for their deaths, but by giving himself an out he's able to, perhaps ironically, lie to himself about his own involvement in the case.
Then the trial actually happens and it turns out that due to a glitch that Kokichi wasn't expecting, Gonta doesn't remember killing Miu. Gonta swears up and down that he didn't do it and would never do it, and Kokichi presses him pretty hard to just confess. I think this is not only because Gonta is the culprit, but because Gonta *admitting* he's the culprit is important to Kokichi. If Gonta won't admit that he did it, Kokichi is then forced to confront the reality that he is ultimately responsible for sending two people to their deaths even if he didn't directly kill either of them. He became what he hates, and he can't lie to himself about that.
I agree with this statement, also reading this kind of broke my heart a little.
I agree with everything here, but it kinda hurt when he keeps on forcing Gonta to talk when he knows nothing. He even asked him why is he so dumb. That must've hurt for Gonta.
@@norasss0 Oh totally, but that kinda just feeds back into the idea that Kokichi trusts *nobody.* It isn't until Shuichi puts forth a reasonable case for why Gonta doesn't remember that he relents; until then, he just assumes Gonta is out for himself or really *is* so stupid that he forgot their plan. It seems ridiculous to think about, given the way Gonta is, but Kokichi just doesn't trust anybody. Even during the debate scrum for this case, he rebuts Tsumugi's claim that Gonta is a sweetheart who wouldn't hurt anyone by stating that *anyone* can commit a murder, even a supposed sweetheart.
jesus christ this just gave me a whole new view on that class trial
@@CambriaBold Yes, I know all that, but what was I saying is that it hurt Gonta, he has feelings too. That's all. I said "I agree with everything here" so?
Kokichi is such an interesting character to look into since we dont even know that much about him. this is a really good character analysis!
YEAH! Really I think he was one of the most well written characters I can think of. I feel like the team really tired making him be a "bad" character, because then everyone in the game would hate him. Thus his plan going on to work better. Really just an awesome character.
@@SkyBombNoodles I agree!!
i feel the same with komaeda, though i love komaeda more than him and their fanbase's suck but i've met non toxic fans of the two (i'm one myself)
most komaeda fans ship komahina (again as i do too) but there are most of them that get mad if you say "komaeda isn't gay" or "how dare you not ship them >:c" and it's really annoying
i hc him as bi because i ship komanami
and i hate it when people call komaeda a "psychopath" because he's not, his mind functions differently than everyone else because of his FTD :c his moods switch often and he lacks empathy due to ftd (those are a few symptoms)
that's just how i feel and i'm not a toxic fan of them so i try not to mention this around the fandom because i don't want to be assumed a fujoshi or a fangirl or toxic or something :")
Agreed, he has many mysteries and its interesting to think about his personality
@@rosiewatson5432 i also agree! i feel like people should give him more credit for what he did even tho he made gonta kill i feel like kokichi deeply cared about everyone he sacrified himself too. hes just a misunderstood person not a hero nor a villian
the subtitles call kokichi
“Cookie G” or “Cookie”
oh my atua
Ay-yo, Cookie G is in da houseeee
I hate myself
Cocky G. **
Cookie cheese
Cokie geese
I like your cookie, g.
Cookie Cheese
It's safe to say that kokichi is very *Morally Gray.* He did the wrong things, for the right reasons...
@@jekaterinametluka5717 that too
i think he is moral if the moral system youre talking about is consequentialism! although people do usually have "mixed" so to speak systems so i suppose i can understand how hes morally gray
"I feel something so right, doing the wrong thing."
Sorry song reference-
@@simplyabandoned9547 and iiiIiIiIIIiIiiii feel something so wrong
@@riiael with doing the right thiiiiiing~
I wouldn’t say he didn’t do anything wrong, but I think he did the wrong things for a good moral.
So your saying he's an anti hero, if so I agree with this
i love kokichi in all but, what he did is beyond wrong
@NERII NYA no I mean he did the wrong things but he meant well
He hides his real emotions behinds lies
[SPoilers]
But during gontas execution those tears were genuine. He just probably realized nobody gives a crap about him and went insane again after gontas execution
@Addi Addi IMO I think he was a bit upset but kind of emphasized it because he wanted gonta to die happy
Kokichi: Lied
Everyone: Believe it
Kokichi: Tells the truth
Everyone: This is another Uso-Dayo
his death message in a nutshell-
everyone thinking his last words was a lie, 💀✋
@@MaskedSpringtrap ya I know right- it's kinda sad tho
@@MaskedSpringtrap this is why I hc kiibo being kokichi's brother, because even when Kokichi bullied him, he's the only one who actually believed Kokichi's last known words.
@@kkTeaz omg Rantaro and keebo and Kokichi-
Its perfect
Yea I'm kinda mad when he said that "he was the master mind" everyone sticked to that even though they knew that he's most definitely lying
Honestly I always felt like Kokichi felt genuinely upset at Gonta’s death based on the more subdued crying sprite.
I feel the same way! Also, I feel like the way he expressed actual emotion, which had to be very hard for him, was to be angry. He started yelling at Gonta to make excuses, and I think that was because being angry was the easiest thing to over exaggerate and still seem like an evil person. But when his mask broke a little and he actually started crying, he over exaggerated that too, saying he wouldn’t cry for Gonta.
I don't understand why anyone would feel any guilt about Gonta but ok
I honestly disagree because he legit said he hated Gonta in so many trials-
@@gothix7054 well think about it. That could’ve been a lie. I bet he didn’t want to be attached to anyone in case he died so they wouldn’t be sad, or in case they died, so he wouldn’t be sad.
Honestly I don't care if it was real or fake he still did what he did and that was horrible what he did to gonta and Kaito he still caused them to die to get what he wanted
Kokichi: *hates murder*
Also Kokichi: *instigates a murder*
*somewhat implicates partner*
The irony.
The killing game corrupts people
@@piss_chugger true but it's still murder
@@piss_chugger still murder
I would like to apologize on how the Kokichi stans treat Kokichi, I also kin Kokichi but how the Kokichi kinnies say he’s a “UwU rat boi” when in reality he’s not.
most “kokichi kinnies” dont acutally kin him and water him down to “gay boi uwu”
@yashiro daikon yh right!
Tru
I find my stans and kinnies very offensive
As a Kokichi kin, I don't think the people who call him stuff like that are really kinnies, as they more resemble stans
As some who just started to really like Kokichi's character, its kinda sad how his fandom totally overlooks his actual character. I just wish people would understand him more and not just be like 'cute anime boy go brrr'
Yeah, he's cute but there's alot more than just his looks.
I think he's a bit cute, I like his design, but sometimes he looks like a child. Most or some of the fandom does look over his character without trying to understand the point of it and leaving him out to be "an Innocent gay uwu boy" Which isn't his character at all
@water bottle I like his design because purple
@water bottle Tbh some people just look at what people say about a character and are like "Yea this is what I think now!"
Eh. A lot more bad things.
the sad thing is that if some people keep hearing about something that isnt true, they start to believe it even though they play the game
I believe that he isn't a bad guy, but he isn't the best person, either. He's a guy who did bad things with good intentions.
Edit: OMFG YOU GUYS BLEW THIS UP-
What I meant was he was trying to end the killing game, and did all of that horrible shit for his mastermind persona as to pull that off.
Wow
@@-irlkokichouma-159 I have seen you before. I don't know which video, but I have.
and that’s on ~moral greyness~
Hes a villain
@@letternclnovi7116 IM NOT I JUST LOVE SHUICHI
"Kokichi did nothing wrong"
That destroys basically his entire character. Basically
Edit: Wow, this comment really got popular, uh? I just want to explain one thing. I know that the title is clickbait, I already did watch the video before I did this comment, I just said the phrase in the title because there are a lot of people who say "Kokichi did nothing wrong" without joking.
ok so I won't deny I said that many times but he did in fact do some things wrong 😔 i see both sides, and definetly i can personally relate to kokichi so-
I just don't like how people only see him as a person with no morals and enjoys killing for just the fun of it, yes he had to sacrifice gonta and miu, which I alSo don't like so I see everyone else's side, but I also see his side where he really couldn't have done anything but to rely on gonta, because who else would trust him?
Yet again i managed to rant about this but I still stand by my point
Kokichi did many things wrong but it was never his intention to genuinely hurt anyone. He just wanted everyone to get out of the game even if the way he did it was awful and wound up with people getting hurt.
@@ottokallen correct
@@ottokallen he did hurt someone he got miu and gonta killed.
@@masteroob4523 I never said he didn't I said he didn't want too or intend too
“Ni-gee-tuu”
When he said ni-gee-tuu I felt that 😔✊
...Nagito?
At least he didn't pronounce "Komaeda" like "Komayda".
@@JoaoPedro-eq3hj Komaeda is pronounced Ko-mai-duh
@@hrathurahl8697 no its ko-ma-e-da.
everyone seems to forget, Kokichi saw the secrete of the outside world all on his own.
This massive shift in his personality was because he thought he had nothing to live for, and wasn't manipulating Gonta, but rather seeking help from someone who trusted him. he was trying to get the information he needed to to Gonta in a way that couldn't be seen as lying in the other's eyes without Monokuma sensing his true intent, and the only way to do that was to play into his evil persona.
in chapter 4, Kokichi was broken and scared; he thought everything he was trying to stay alive for was gone, and didn't want everyone to face that same fate, but things backfired and he had to fall back into his persona as to not be outed. by the time Gonta was about to be executed, he was so distraught over what he realized he had done, that he had a melt down, and had to recover from it by amplifying his persona ten fold.
aside from this little neglected piece of info that changed Ch4 entirely, i love the theory you got here
Thanks to this comment it makes a lot more sense 😲
Idk but when I saw his "meltdown" it just didn't feel real
This is not necessarily true. Please recall that later, in Chapter 5, Kokichi reveals to Kaito that he had proposed working with Monokuma in Chapter 4 to "make the game more interesting" in order to determine whether the game was being watched by someone. Since Monokuma went along with this, it proved Kokichi's budding theory that someone, perhaps even multiple people, were watching them.
Therefore, because Kokichi knew the game was being watched by a sizeable number of people, the idea that Kokichi has nothing left to live for is plainly false. By Chapter 4, he knows that the secret of the outside world is most likely a lie.
Kokichi never wanted to kill everyone, as this goes against his entire system of morality as a pacifist who hates killers (like Maki) and the killing game as a whole. He only had to use Gonta because he was strapped for time, Miu was going to kill him (if not someone else), and he still needed to convince everyone that he was a villain.
Kokichi really seems to do a lot of things for (correct me if I’m wrong) attention and or validation from others. And sometimes he’ll go to in drastic ways use the people who do trust them for keeping up his peraona, which he only keeps up because he’s scared. I might comeback to this if I rember it at a better time to further explain if needed, I’m really tired right now tho so good night!
@@uberpwnage50 He says things along the lines of him having no one waiting for him multiple times, and just because there's people watching doesn't mean there's nothing left to live for. If the only thing waiting for you outside is sick individuals who enjoy watching kids slaughter each other, that's not exactly something to live for. The monokubs keep saying no one is going to come save them, no one does the entire game, and some one took the time to build the entire place they are stuck in and had enough money to do so, it doesn't exactly look good
He's meant to be open-ended, and fits very well into the game's themes. I like to think his relationship to Kaito shows two different effects of lies and truths. Kokichi makes a point that the truth can hurt, and that lies can't always be associated as a force of bad. Kaito always tries to look at the bright side of things, even if it involves ignoring the truth. Despite this, Kaito is more well-liked for the way he will keep his spirits up through beautiful lies, while Kokichi becomes reviled for weaponizing ugly truths.
100%!!!!
Over 35 minutes of someone explaining perfectly why Kokichi is my favorite character.
@@blindbysza leave them alone they are just saying that he is their favorite character-
@@blindbysza Um, I do ship them with Shuichi yes but I don't call him that at all. I don't hate Gonta, Ryoma or Miu at all either I love all three. Maki and Kaito are a different story but I have my reasons that have nothing to do with Kokichi.
Can I not have a favorite character that is different than yours?
@@pastellungs8178 Thank you
@@TheMaskedNate do i really care? go away and go back to shipping suichi x Kokichi
@@blindbysza if you dont care why do you comment?
The fact he’s actually a good, strong, interesting complex character who’s very important to the story but just gets reduced to “smol gay uwu boi” is.. ugh
And this is coming from a kokichi appreciator myself
may I ask what Kinnie means? I am a fan of Kokichi but I'm not really involved in the fanbase so I don't know why people call themselves Kinnies.
@@spiceyblueroyalhoney1225 Kinning means "believing you are/were that character in a past life" but it's kinda been reduced to heavily relating to a character or thinking you're as close to a real life equivalent to that character
@@polychromatiicaxox Oh, that makes sense. Thank you for the information. I don't think I relate to him that much because I am not so selfless as to turn people against me to save their lives and I don't think most people are, but thanks again.
true its kinda weird how the fandom, well mostly kokichi stans, got him down to such a small level when he has so much more traits
@@hwahhhh9035 periodt
he had *some* good intentions but he definitely did *many* things wrong
we love the homestuck pfp
this is the only true comment here,, everyone else is saying "he had completely good intentions but did things wrong" like bruh do you seriously think that everything he did was for the good of the world lmao
@@biggeelafan42069 fr like this was the same fool who got gonta and miu killed
gonta...
Yes! I don't think he did anything with good intentions accept for like 2 things-
Kokichi is in D.I.C.E.
One of the rules there is to be against murder
Boom done.
if you can't understand that explanation then idk what to do
If he was against murder, why did he manipulate people?-
@@ryeanide im pretty sure it's because he wanted them to think he was evil and was the mastermind, and i also think he feels really bad about it, but can't and just doesn't show it
correct me if im wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Idk about that he indirectly killed Gonta.
@@disgusted2704 That doesn't change the fact that he backed both Kirumi and Korekiyo into a corner for killing someone, called Kaede a lunatic for killing Rantaro, and heavily insulted Maki for being an assassin. His last words also show how he hates killing on a massive scale, and his motive video shows that he forbade murder as the leader of D.I.C.E.
This next thing is a personal headcanon that doesn't help my point in the slightest, but I like to think that instead of Kaito voting for him, I like to think that Kokichi voted for himself out of guilt for doing that to Gonta. It's small, but I find it kind of soothing, to be honest.
I'm not justifying what he did, that was pretty messed up. It's just that the whole "if he didn't like murder, then why did he [insert action here]" argument really rubs me the wrong way.
I definitely wouldn’t say he hasn’t done ANYTHING wrong, but a lot of what he does is with good intentions, however just because one has good intentions it doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong. But like I love Kokichi anyway and he is crazy smart and amazing. Good job on the video btw!
FINALLY A COMMENT I AGREE WITH
You read my mind! I also love Kokichi, and sure, he had good intentions, but we can't use that as an excuse for what he did.
Kokichi did do wrong things but for a good cause. Much like Kirumi. Sure kokichi’s fandom could basically get down on their knees and suck off kokichi, calling him their “ UWU PWECIOWS RWATT BOI THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED BC HE BABY”. But you can’t really blame kokichi for having a mentally unstable fan base with mostly females
@@HalfBakedPotatoWedges for the most part you can kill me in person next time
And in the end... he only ever did that because of the killing game. The kind of intense stress and paranoia that is designed to put you under a lot of pressure and make you do thing you normally wouldn’t even think about.
In reality, I think Kokichi would be an amazing friend. He seems like the type that rarely forms any bonds, but when he does, they are unbreakable.
Title: “kokichi did nothing wrong”
Some other people: “🧢 “
Shuichi: Give me my hat back.
@@Bobo-Nose EFGFGYUMJGEFUGFJYT
Bro stop being mean to Kokichi you shlep! Kokichi did nothing to you, he did nothing bad to ANYONE YOU FRIGGIN CACA! Also Kokichi does not lie! Kokichi is the most well written character in the entire series he is the most cutest, most smartest, most funniest, and the best character ever so shut yo crusty ass lips and respect Kokichi! Kokichi is like better than y’all . He always did things for everyone, he died trying to save everybody while Kaito did nothing and everyone loved him for that like imagine being that stupid to like Kaito like wtf imagine liking Kaito, you probably have no brain if you like Kaito like go step on a lego you cacahead, lookin a toenail hair. You just need to shut up and drink some toilet water like Kaito when he needs to fart. Kaito is literally a stupid crusty lying little poop nugget that his mom sharted out when she was on the toilet and that’s how Kaito came into the world, while Kokichi is an amazing, loyal, honest, funny, smart, and adorable surpeme leader, caring for those he leads, we should be more respectful to Kokichi after what he’s done for everyone 😊
yeah, kokichi was the only smart one. he helped a lot and he shouldn't have died
I wouldn’t have liked him at all if he didn’t do what he did
@@WhiteWhistleBondrewd AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FRESHERROR CAT WOAH CHILL DUDE
Gacha_ Reggie if he didn't die it would ruin the purpose of his plan, he wouldn't have been able to pull it off otherwise.
He wanted to die to end the killing game. So he technically killed himself. So if he lived the plan would be ruined. So he had no other choice
This video is greatly underrated! Keep doing what you’re doing. 💕
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kokichi is quite the interesting character. i think he puts on a villainy persona to hide weaknesses and vulnerability from the mastermind because he knows the second he shows his weak side or lets the mask fall the mastermind will use that to get rid of him. hes a nuisance to the mastermind beacuse he could've ended the killing game (or made a fool of the mastermid and monokuma) had he sacrificed kaito instead and made himself or maki the blackened. he's such a great actor that i think he could've pulled it off.
even with this and the fact he had good intentions (somewhat debatable) he is FAR from a good person.
i hope i wrote that in a way u could understand. i got a bit passionate. weeby news makes a great statement on this. u should watch it
Y E S. This is what I wanted to hear! I believe he put on the disguise of a bad person so he could trick Monokuma the whole time. I'm not saying he was a good person either, but he did bad things for the right reason. Like for Miu and Gonta, if Miu got her way, then Kokichi would've died without ongoing his plan. He never liked the killing game, but couldn't show that so his plan could succeed.
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Kokichi is what you call Chaotic Good. Doing the wrong thing for the right cause. An ends justify the means guy.
Personally, I can’t decide between Chaotic Good and Chaotic Neutral, but leaning toward the latter. I guess it depends on your definition, but... it’s not like he’s actually trying to be Good. His whole backstory is just him messing with people. And even his motivation for stopping the killing game doesn’t really come from the desire to for Good... but it just so happened to be completely opposed to his personal philosophy. So he made it his duty to destroy it. He’s fine with *a lot* of bad things. Just.. definitely not with murder.
Lelouch vi brittania would like a word
@@Kayta-Linda I agree with this take
actually, i would think of him as lawful neutral. though overall he has good intentions/goals, the methods he uses to achieve those goals are... not the best. not sure if it’s official or not but there exist laws of the chart of alignment to help people understand it better and kokichi breaks one of the top rules for the ‘good’ alignment, which is ‘thou must not kill an innocent person’ which he didn’t- gonta, although kinda indirectly. additioanlly, i saw lawful because, he never actually breaks any rules within the game and follows them pretty well. at most, he goes through loopholes but that’s it.
@@Kayta-Linda "Yeah I'm agaisnt murder dude" proceeds to manipulate Gonta into killing Miu when he knew Miu was trying to kill him and could have just not met her
Since i finished Danganronpa V3 at a long time ago i always used to think that kokichi was a little evil brat, but that was when i didnt analize him deeper.
Because of that, i finally realize about all the things that kokichi was doing makes sense, even if i didnt forgive him completely, i understand him and respect him. He only wants to save all that he could, he's almost like funny valentine (my favorite jojo antagonist) a "bad guy with good intentions".
I dont know why some people are saying things like: "when kokichi died, the game was wayyy to bored", that logic apllies to any character in danganronpa that was someone "interesting" or "logical".
In my opinion every character (with obvious exception) aport something to the game. And saying like your favorite character die and turns bored is literally underestimate the other characters, i mean in V3 we have characters like kaede, shuichi, maki, korekiyo and even rantaro that were interesting.
(This is said for someone who likes all the characters in danganronpa, with some exceptions).
Kokichi is a great example of an Anti-Hero. An Anti-Hero is just a bad guy fighting against a badder guy for a good cause, and Kokichi embodies that character trope perfectly
@@reddeath5791 I actually agree with this, completely, but that’s not the definition of an anti-hero. An anti-hero is, according to google, a protagonist or notable figure who is conspicuously lacking in heroic qualities. But both your definition and the actual definition fit Kokichi perfectly.
@@oumakokichi-s4x Huh, I always thought that the definition I gave was what an Anti-hero was, but thanks for telling me what it actually was and I’m glad you agree with me ^^
@@reddeath5791 he's a contagonist actually
The thing about Kokichi is that we simply don't understand his motives. There's no way to properly judge him because of this, and that's the whole point. You're supposed to feel unsatisfied and be left wanting more when he dies. The game makes you feel his death, and his true intentions are left for you to puzzle out on your own.
Whether Kokichi is "good" or "bad" is pretty irrelevant in the context of the game. He acts according to his own will and that alone, and his character is easily one of the strongest in the entire series because of that.
Atleast someone smart
this comment is wayyy to underrated.
I think you can actually
@@etam8099 No, you can't.
Yeah instead
Also UA-cam keeps deleting my comment because of your name 💀💀💀
Being introduced to this fandom at the time I was kinda ruined characters like this for me because of the way the fandom treats them. It’s kinda upsetting how much of the character is just thrown away for the fan girls/stans own enjoyment.
frrr he’s way more than just ✨UwU grape soda cute liar✨ boy, like i want ppl to appreciate him as a character more tbh
@@elodielee2817 I want to believe that but the fandom ruined his character so bad that I can't like him even a bit
@@elodielee2817 I love kokichi for his personality, and his character design. Im honestly mad that Maki had to "kill" him and still mad at this day.
@@ApoIIo_ me too, i hated that whole trial, but at the same time it made me like how complex the series is. but yeah, i didn’t really understand why she had to kill him it also made me upset, i might have to watch the trial over again
@@michaelesquivel1003 yeah i agree, can’t even argue.
I love Kokichi because of his antagonistic actions and his playful personality. Though I do think he partially was just trying to end the killing game.
I think he is because he likes to fuck up class trials then get them back on track- no hate on kokichi, its a joke
This is what Kokichi did:
-force everyone to do their own thing rather than cooperate because of Monokuma's motives, as seen with Kaede's case.
-manipulate Gonta into helping him to get them to watch the motive together, this would lead the group into keeping Kirumi and Ryoma away from each other or observe them at all times.
-confirming Gonta's observations about the 'tiny bugs' he saw and asking Miu to create the Bugvac. After using that, he used the microscope, probably found in the warehouse, and discovered the Nanokumas. This explains why there's a microscope when you investigate his room.
-giving Gonta a choice of whether or not to end all of their suffering when he found out that the world is in ruins, and knowing his character, he chose to end it.
-making Miu to create the Electrohammers to disable the traps in the Death Road of Despair, the remote and receivers to control the exisals and convince them that he was the mastermind, and the Electrobomb to disable the Nanokumas and deceive Monokuma.
-telling Kaito about his plan and blackmailing him with Maki potentially becoming the blackened to agree.
Also, he antagonized most of the killers:
- Kaede, for starting the game
- Kirumi, for deceiving and almost got themselves killed (when she pulled the 'everyone should help me' card)
- Maki, for being an assassin
- Korekiyo, for being a lunatic
- Miu, for almost killing him and being selfish (Miu was helpful but in the end, she was too desperate to leave)
@@cye2310 underrated comment
He absolutely was trying to end it
He knew before anyone else that the only was to beat the game was to just not play
But instead of not playing he tries to go further and take the fun out of it
He ruins case 4 and reveals the killer just so the "audience" doesnt get the satisfaction of the deductions and figuring it out themselves
And by sacrificing himself to create an impossible trial, his hope was to make monokuma break his own rules
And if the games rules were to be broken by the gamemaster then who would watch it?
woah this analysis is really underrated :00 keep up the great work!
Yeah it is!
I love the fact that everyone is still debating about kokichi
He’s a good character with good intentions, but he definitely did not do anything wrong. He still got Miu and Gonta killed.
Whether or not you consider it wrong is up for debate, Miu wanted to kill him and he couldn't defend himself against her because of the settings of the virtual world that would paralyze him if she touched him, his actions resulted in Gonta getting executed but it was either make that sacrifice or let his entire plan and potentially ending the killing game with more survivors than intended go completely to waste.
@Plasmyte umm they could have apprehended her..... or at least knock her out. There are ways to stop people from killing you without killing them..
Plasmyte Fair.
Uh-huh This is Danganronpa we’re talking about, some bitches gotta die even if they can be avoided.
Even if he had tried to apprehend her, Miu likely would've tried to kill him again. The next time he wouldn't have anyone to save him.
I love Kokichi, the part of the fandom that calls him a "UwU rat boi" i find..Not really good, and the toxic kinnies that are super toxic against people who don't love and kin Kokichi aren't any better..I've met alot of Kokichi kinnies who respect other's opinions and just genuinely love Kokichi, he's just a video game character and we love him lol. (Also i heard that 'rat' is a slur against japanese people, so yuh.)
it is indeed!
@@mae-nlycreative260 i mean, i feel like its okay to call him that only if you arent calling him that due to his race.
Out of curiosity, why is rat a slur? I've never heard that one before.
@꧁Ultimate Supreme Leader꧂ nah i think that a lot of people still call him that a lot, i still think u shouldnt use it even if u meant it in a good way-
@@MECHRABBITS well they didn't know what it meant chill bruh
Tha-ha-haaank you.
There's nothing in this entire series or fandom that makes me want to pull out my hair more than a simple-minded "duuuuurh uhhh ya see kokichi is actually uhm just an evil sociopath who was selfish and he did everything just for shits and giggles and so hehe I hate him".
Especially when they try to bring up the whole "Well, he could've just been lying" point in regards to his final words. Multiple characters hint at the idea throughout the game that you should definitely believe a person's final words- Gonta outright says it, hell. This ideology is further supported by the fact that Kokichi had no idea what in God's name a Remnant of Despair even was when he was getting choked out by Maki, which proves then and there that none of what he was doing was meaningless "gaaaah I love murdering insanely gullible high-schoolers". Many also like to bring up the fact that both Iruma's and Gokuhara's deaths were technically on his hands. Of course, most who took the time to do research immediately refuted with "He had to choose between being murdered in cold blood or sacrificing the lives of Miu and Gonta for the chance to cultivate his plans and ruin the killing game for good."
Now. I swear on my bathtub, if I hear another person say "well uuuuuhhhhhhmm he coulda like apprehended her or like not gone inside of the program at all man there were other options".
To which I say,
*THAT'S WRONG!*
Let's say, hypothetically, he uses Gonta to knock her out or something. Everybody logs out, no murder happens. What's stopping Miu from trying something similar again? Nobody would dare try to believe Kokichi, who's almost completely convinced the group that he's the mastermind. And if we say, have him skip out on the simulation, if that were even a possibility- there is again a high chance Miu would attempt to kill him again in some way. And let's say even THAT doesn't happen, and despite the odds, everybody believes Kokichi and Miu doesn't kill him. If another murder takes place before he can seize an opportunity to further his plan, said plan would most likely be completely ruined. It's a simple waste of time and whether or not you like how it played out, two people would have always ended up dying anyway, deaths that would be entirely meaningless in the face of Shuichi's decidedly masterful detective work. The way things panned out in V3 was undoubtedly the best conclusion because while yes, Iruma and Gonta died, these deaths set the stage for Ouma's final lie and assisted suicide/murder, which was unarguably integral to the (un)revelation of the true mastermind.
And even, *even* if we choose to disregard ALL of that?
In the case that his plan did not work, he still ended up being completely irreplaceable in the final chapter by being super important in the surprise punch of Rantaro's true character.
No matter which way you slice it, Kokichi and what he did is in no way *meaningless*. Sure, you may be able to get away with labeling him as a Sociopath, but he is unarguably NOT a supermalevolent-totally-evil-guywho-just--loves-thekillinggame. He is not one dimensional. So for the love of God, I could care less about whether or not you like him personally but just cut it out with the surface level critics of Ouma's character when the game provides us with the framework for the complete truth. Ouma did what he did to ruin the killing game, and his final words were definitely true. This is based in evidence while the opposition finds roots purely in the speculation of his lying habits.
Practically every thing he did had meaning. He was left intentionally ambiguous so that the audience could piece together his true motives and *not* for us to simply add to the "well uhhh lie" column. Everything about him was intentional misdirection and pretty necessary delusion for his greater goal of ultimately, helping everyone.
And, like him or not- All that with a frivolous smile..
That's just who Kokichi Ouma is.
Honestly, you're completly right, I love the way you explained that, also, remember the insect meet and greet? The reason he did that was so that there'd be a less chance of everyone killing each other because everyone would know who to avoid or they could at least support the ones that had really bad motive videos, so the chance of a murder would be less likely, and since he knew that there were viewers of the killing game, and there was a lot of filler stuff going on at that time, he could've done the insect meet and greet as a harmless but interesting prank, (I'm not saying this is completly cannon but I'm pretty sure that was his goal) but that sadly didn't work out in the end because the events of chaper 2 happened. (At least I think, feel free to correct me if I got something wrong lol.)
If kokichi skipped the simulation Miu would probably try and kill someone else, she had full control and could twist the fact that kokichi isn't in the simulation to try and put the suspicion on him. Everyone is too invested in their friendship especially kaito to suspect her and they wouldn't even believe kokichi. She could get away with it and get everyone including their precious gonta killed.
Bruh not everyone has to like kokichi
its people like you that ruin him for me Smh
@@charliotte I cant tell if you’re joking, and I’m sorry if you are, but I’m pretty sure this person is saying that you shouldn’t look at Kokichi like he’s 1 dimensional, not that you have to love him or anything.
Ahem,
this is a killing game
A game where people kill eachother
A game where others die
Even the inoccent ones die
The people you knew will snap or maybe change completely, because it's a killing game
The people that have mental issues can kill,, without thinking, because it's a killing game
The people who are experts liers with no harming others snaps, because it's a killing game
None of these characters in this game deserves hate, they are literally CHILDREN trapped in a place where they have to kill each other by force, and had to do class trials with no one dying but had to sacrifice the other, because it's a killing game.
Now remember these are kids, no matter what, they did not deserve any hate nor dying, because their young, kids are easily controlled even teenagers, they are smart, but not smart wih their actions.
That's it, that's all I'm gonna say, I just wana point it out to the people who aren't paying attention in this game.
aren’t they like 18-?
@@melsxteaxcake kind of, yasuhiro did say he was 21, so some highschoolers are older, and some are younger, but they are still highschoolers soooo...
@@kaitoeiscool true
They're not fully developed but you can't say a teenager doesn't know it's wrong to kill and manipulate people, that's basic decency
@@splathermp1341 yeah I know, but still, they were forced to do that, and with these motive stuff, you can't just sit around and do nothing about it (atleast in there situation)
Kokichi is a good character I won’t disagree with that however it’s sad when I see the Kokichi stans treat him like “he’s such an UwU boi he did all the stuff he did for good so that makes him good” when in reality just because one had good intentions can’t just immediately make him a good guy I mean he practically killed gonta an innocent character who deserved better and miu who people bash on despite the fact without her Kokichi wouldn’t have had completed his plan not to mention miu had so much insecurities Kokichi added to that and the fact miu did everything everyone asked of her inventions wise and had some involvement in Kirumi and Ryomas case all in all Kokichi is a well built character and did have good intentions however that doesn’t make him a good person
I really enjoyed your analysis!
A lot of people think and dismiss him as the "Nagito of this game" but really, I personally don't think he is anything like Nagito.
I personally think he is a mix of Byakuya and Gundham. Byakuya for saying that the game is interesting and he wants to win (tho the interesting part being a lie). And Gundham for saying he is "evil" and wanting to save everyone (Gundham saving them from starvation and Kokichi for the whole killing game).
I actually see him more as a mix of kyoko and chiaki! Kyoko for his plotting behind the ringleader's back. plus, in the fifth fte and salmon mode ending between shuichi and kokichi there's a clear throwback to the makoto-kyoko relationship.
For chiaki its a bit more difficult to explain (Im talking about the in-game personality, btw). they both love jokes and games, they have similiar sprites (and hairstyle jcysd) and they both share the same hate for killing and think murder isnt something you can completely forgive. Their role in the game is similiar but at the same time the opposite. Chiaki is an AI, an outsider that doesnt really belong in the group, but joins it anyways to keep her friends safe and stop the killing game, meanwhile kokichi could have been part of the group but decides to separate himself from it due to his paranoia, so he subtly leads (or tries, at least) them while trying to stop the killing game. Aaand they both help the survivors a lot after their deaths. Last thing, chiaki's "belief without doubt is simply a lie" really stuck with me, so when i discovered the theme of v3 was truth vs lies i immediately thought of that. (Kokichi and chiaki are my two favorites from the games yeah did you notice?)
Im not really sure this makes sense, but in short, kokichi makes me think of kyoko for his actions and of chiaki for his morals and for his role in the game.
Oooo that actually makes a lot of sense as well, whenever I compare Kokichi to a mix of other characters, I'm gonna include them as well!
@@feather9077 aha im glad you enjoyed my rant, i can get very passionate about kokichi sometimes
DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE EVIL EYE
-Gundham
@@sanariyadilman1114 we arent, Gundham
8:44 "Omigod, the captions actually recognize Kokichi"
Seriosly, he's not "Cookie Cheese" anymore? Hooray!🎉
I find this similar to how people misinterpret Kaito's writing as well... It's just so strange how we villanize characters before thinking about why they did what they did. Like Kaito comes from a place of insecurity about himself, and so he lashes out physically to get his point across because his words never seem to be enough. People think he's the dumbest character in the series when he brings up several emotionally intelligent reasons as to why he's not. Additionally, his deception of the class in chapter 5 bounces off of this supposed himbo esque relationship he has with them, when in reality, he's much more intelligent then he leads on to be. Otherwise he would have just left Kokichi to die without thinking about how that affected Maki and the killing game. His motives explain perfectly why he has a brain, and how he uses it in previous chapters to convince Shuichi and Maki to believe in themselves. He just goes about it in a different way, which shouldn't mean that he's automatically dumb just because he uses his intelligence to lean more into pathos then logos.
Shut up Kaito is a smelly piss baby crusty little burnt cockroach that looks like he lives in a toilet lik wtf imagine liking Kaito wtffffff y’all weird. Kokichi is so much better cuz he doesn’t lie or be useless unlike crusty Kaito who is a lazy dumbass who lives in a toilet wtf
@@lillygrasse3069 you are literally one of the problems with the kokichi fandom.
I feel the same way about Gonta he's actually very smart and it seems like the fandom overlooks this Gonta noticed aspects of certain murders and his agency in the murder plot aginst Mu. He made choices based on what he saw and he believed he was doing the right thing with a mercy kill. Everyone forgets he came up with the way to sneak Mu's body past the others. But everyone paints him as this big stupid dumb dumb who was lead around blindly by Kokitchi.
I'm not saying Oma didn't manipulate him but he manipulated everyone and no one else in the game is painted by fandom as lacking agency or talked about like some poor child who didn't know any better. Gonta made a hard choice because he was pushed to his breaking point. The whole point of the fourth trial was that even good people can be pushed by the killing game to do bad things.
gonta is smart and complex darn it! naivety is only one aspect of his character.
@alorapendrak9752 No he's an idiot
I don’t think hes a “bad” person. He’s a good person just with bad actions and good intentions
Yes and good person would trick a real good person to kill someone , wow GOOD PERSON
@@jawhrahmajid7983 I mean if kokichi didn't make gonta killed miu, I honestly believe Miu could go away with her murder and everyone else will die
Chaotic Good, they would call it.
@@jawhrahmajid7983 There's a thing called : perspective. Kokichi didn't just do all this because he wanted to. He understood things no one else did, that's why his actions are misunderstood. I can give you a whole analysis on the why he did this or that if you want to. But that's up to you ^^
so a demi-god with mostly good intentions
What is funny is that he contradicts his views so many times, and no one ever notices, all they want to notice is that "he is evil no two ways about it"
Which is sad since he is super well written.
Great video man! You’re super underrated. You’ve brought up a lot of good points in the video.
30:32 I disagree that Kaito's actions were responsible for Kokichi's plan going down the drain. Yes, Kaito revealed himself hiding in the exisal, but that was only after Shuichi's deductions had given Monokuma a high probability of getting the killer right. The plan was already jeopardised by then so Kaito chose to protect everyone instead.
And I don't believe that it's Shuichi's fault either. He couldn't have participated in the plan before first discovering what the plan was, and in the context of the trial all these deductions were done out loud in front of Monokuma. Like we saw towards the end of the trial, it was already too late for Shuichi to backtrack once he found the truth.
The only person technically "at fault" is Maki (but I don't blame her, how could she have known?) Her slashing at the control panel was the only evidence of the electrobomb being used. If she hadn't done that, Shuichi's deduction would've ended at "Maki's poison must have killed the victim because the press has a feature preventing it from crushing living people." At that point, Kokichi being the victim was off the table, and since Monokuma was relying on Shuichi's deductions the plan probably would have worked.
Even Kokichi knows how low he sunk when he got Gonta and Miu killed - it's why he let himself become the last victim of the Killing Game. He knew he deserved it.
That reasoning is wrong
yeah, it was definitely that! and not at all his desire to ruin the killing game!
there are people in this world
You got some balls
yeah i cant tell
Really? I wasn't sure.
oh
People? Here? Nah all I see is a bunch of kids calling themselves kins over a fictional character... bunch of dumbasses I swear
18:29 "I'll even smash your head in with a hammer!"
I love kokichi's character. When i see him, i see a guy who sacrificed his own sanity, morals and life, to make sure the killing game ended.
everything he says, i just- know which one are lies and which arent. his last words- it makes me so sad how they didnt believe him :(((
he is such a complex character- he just- anazlised, theorised what situation he was in, finding his own clues to confirm such theories. come up with plns, see who is trust worthy or not, who can be used or not- he considers them all his friends, he doesnt want to do this, but he has to cause everyone else in the game wont. He lies to himself, lies to everyone, creates a evil character that everyone believes so easily because of the way he had been acting previously- he understood how the game worked, how to trick everyone, monokuma, audence, fandom, and himself.
i really just- feel like he deserved a better life than that :(( no one should have to go throught what kokichi experienced.
perhaps this makes senses to others, or doesnt make sense at all.
i havent really watched the game, just theory videos, and saw the fandom page of him, also saw other's while at it- i do want to see the game- but i dont find the time to do so ;-;
Subtitles: “mathematic of cookie cheese character-“
Me: wait.. something ant right
Kokichi imo is the most well written character. I look at him as the true successor to ending the killing games, which he had a great deal in actually doing. He’s the character Rantaro should’ve been. He was really knowledgeable, knew how to adapt and steer the narrative of everything happening. Basically public enemy number 1 for the true mastermind, without then even realizing it.
Tsumugi had the Nanokumas seeing Miu inventing the electrothings. If she really wanted she could just lie to Kokichi about putting the Flahback Ligth in the virtual world and let him get kill but she didn't because plot armor.
Me who didn't pay attention to the video and just keep reading the comments
2:35 He doesn't even deny that Kokichi manipulated Gonta, and I don't know about you but manipulation is wrong
No one, in ANY analysis video denies that Kokichi manipulates Gonta. That doesn't mean Ouma himself was okay with this though, either (he literally begged to be executed with Gonta, despite that meaning his entire plan to ruin the killing game would be thrown away). That, in addition to the fact that killing people directly goes against his own personal morals, makes it apparent that Kokichi knew he what he did was messed up, but felt like, in order for his plan to ultimately succeed, he needed to go through with it.
@@DLxxx him saying he wanted to be executed with Gonta was bluffing. He says he didn't care about Gonta at all right after that scene.
@@mrchocoslave7859 ah, but, are forgetting the most improtant thing about kokichi? the fact that hes a _liar_ ? however, i do personally believe that in that moment he felt guilty, and kind of just had like an outburst of emotion. let us remember, kokichi is a human being snd jsut because hes the type of person willing to take a role nobody else would doesnt change that fact. if he was being logical, he probably wouldve known that Monokuma wouldnt allow him to be executed along with him especially since at that point he knew that Monokuma was very hell bent about the rules, so there really wouldn’t have been any point in begging monokuma to be executed along with him if he didn’t care. i know afterwards he also says “gonta would’ve been real mad if i telled him the truth back there!”, but againn, kokichi is a liar. and, if kokichi revealed that he did infact trick him and he jus did it for hus own amusment, why would it matter if gonta got mad? gonta isnt the type to hurt somebody intentionally even in a situation like this, so it wouldnt threaten him physically in any way, not to mention the fact that he wouldve died in a couple of seconds anyway, and it would’ve painted him as the mastermind even more.. so there wasnt any point in doing that.
at all.
i also know that sayijg “oh, this is proof he cared about gonta because of something he says” but then also saying “this other thing he said is a lie jus cause it’s convinient”, so lets also take note of the fact the sprites he uses while having his outburst in his moment, not to mention the tone in his voice. his voice becomes all raspy, hes on the verge of tears, and his fsce is literally purple. kokichi is good at forcing tears but its implied that whenever he uses thise sprites, hes expressing genuine emotion as theyre used in his final moments where hes _heavily_ implied to be telling the truth and he doesnt use it lterally any other times besides the times where he could possibly be upset, aka moments like these!
@@jaxon1670 Really good points, but they don't justify his actions...
There wasn't really any other way to not only save himself without killing but convince everyone that he's the mastermind
He had good intentions, but he did ALOT of things wrong
No he didn’t shut up you lying broccoli cheese girl
@@lillygrasse3069 LMAO WHAT-
I think it’s like (respectfully) a click bait title to make more people click
With all honesty, mostly because of Kokichi’s character and such, mostly as a good-ish chaotic madlad, he should be the protagonist for danganronpa 4, regardless of his death, because we all know that a few characters at least come back every volume. And also, mostly because of the scene of the class trial of him saying the pros directly to the students, shows that there is also some cleverness hiding inside of’em. Plus, it would really be fascinating to see what’s going on inside of his head all the time, knowing he’s truly a liar, as some people also see him as an antagonist.
Overall: Kokichi would be a fascinating protagonist in danganronpa, volume 4.
@melody_42 1000%. Especially because he’s known for lying.
probably the best way to describe kokichi is just
"The ends justify the means"
Yeah exactly
Pretty much. He choose to take that mentality to its absolute extreme, because he was convinced there was no other way of stopping the mastermind in a way that would stop the killing game.
When you have good intencións but make a lot of wrong decicions
I was reluctant to watch this video because the title suggested that it's gonna be biased in either a loving or hateful way.
Kokichi did some things wrong - sacrificing two people is and always will be bad. However, we have to look at the circumstances he was in. Honestly, I think many people would break and go to the extreme just like him when forced into a killing game. And reminder: As he wanted to be seen as the evil guy even by Monokuma, unlike the other students he couldn't allow himself to express his real feelings even when he was alone. Holding your emotions in sucks. Watching people die horrible deaths sucks. He also was the first one to learn the supposed secret of the outside world, so no wonder he was broken af and went to such drastic measures.
I find Kokichi a greatly written character, and I love him a lot. I also believe that he had good intentions, but broke under the pressure in his own way, which is why he didn't see any other choice than sacrificing Miu and Gonta. To be honest, I headcanon him as a good friend to both of them in the non-despair au.
But try to call him "uwu gay rat boy". I dare you.
People here saying that he did bad things with good intentions and while I do agree with that, what matters is the execution, not the intentions. Sorry Kokichi.
Heh, "execution"
@@jazz-cat00 PUNISHMENT TIME!
Bro stop being mean to Kokichi you shlep! Kokichi did nothing to you, he did nothing bad to ANYONE YOU FRIGGIN CACA! Also Kokichi does not lie! Kokichi is the most well written character in the entire series he is the most cutest, most smartest, most funniest, and the best character ever so shut yo crusty ass lips and respect Kokichi! Kokichi is like better than y’all . He always did things for everyone, he died trying to save everybody while Kaito did nothing and everyone loved him for that like imagine being that stupid to like Kaito like wtf imagine liking Kaito, you probably have no brain if you like Kaito like go step on a lego you cacahead, lookin a toenail hair. You just need to shut up and drink some toilet water like Kaito when he needs to fart. Kaito is literally a stupid crusty lying little poop nugget that his mom sharted out when she was on the toilet and that’s how Kaito came into the world, while Kokichi is an amazing, loyal, honest, funny, smart, and adorable surpeme leader, caring for those he leads, we should be more respectful to Kokichi after what he’s done for everyone 😊
thinking that only the execution matters is just a personal belief, though. thats what you think.
this video made me realize that kokichi is essentially combo between nagito, gundham, and byakuya, but we just get more insight on the chaos that ensues. it also seems as tho kokichi has more of a method to to his madness that nagito does
Yeah that's true. Kokichi is chaotic like nagito and intelligent and manipulative like byakuya, but he is more emotional than byakuya (also he's funnier) and he is more human than nagito.
Kokichi was never the bad guy, but we didn’t know until the end
if kokichi knew mui was planning to blame kaito for his death and kill everyone else to survive hed have to kill her but his avatar settings made it so he couldnt he sacrificed 2 lives to stop everyone else dying well thats how i view it idk why but i like to see the good in ppls actions
jeez that was a waste of time
To the Kokichi comments, personally I like him because you guys need to realise he didn't know Gonta put the wires wrong..and Gonta agreed to it, he didn't say no to killing Miu. Gonta dug his own grave, and Kokichi is the one who suggested to dig it. I love Gonta with all my heart, and was heartbroken and cried from his execution..but he did it to himself even if it switched his personality. The only main thing that made me like Kokichi was how he sacrificed himself for everybody, and no one except for K1-B0 believed his last words..I had to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Conclusion: I'm not trying to start any arguements, it's just my opinion..if you have nothing nice to reply to with my statement..just don't say anything. Thank you.
That is literally how Manipulating people work is to get them to do it on their own also he literally said himself that he Manipulated him also he didn't need to know the wires where switched to get him to do what he wanted he used the outside world to do it
@@angelcloudcosplay4141 Ik..but Gonta could've said no. He's still a TEENAGER in a KILLING game. Obviously he would say yes!
@@teartah7422 Kokichi made him think that killing everyone was the best option and I am pretty sure that kokichi wouldn't have let him say no in the first place even if he did besides I am pretty sure the only reason he picked gonta for this was because he was the most likely to do what he says
@@angelcloudcosplay4141 He literally said that if he went to anyone else..they would've refused..you are correct. But Gonta did say YES willingly, at the end of the day. And if he had said NO I'm 100% sure Kokichi would've left him alone because of what he said in chapter 04 after Gonta's execution.
@@teartah7422 and what exactly did he say to explain that he didn't say anything about that and kokichi is the type of person to not stop till he gets what he wants and what he wanted was gonta to kill and THE ONLY REASON GONTA SAID YES WAS BECAUSE OF KOKICHI IF KOKICHI HADNT SAID WHAT HE SAID GONTA WOULDN'T HAVE SAID YES HE GOT MANIPULATED
Kokichi's depth of character made me like him. He made the trials more interesting! Kokichi true intentions and this video really made me appriciate Kokichi more.
Kokichi is the only character I'd ever encountered to give me so many whiplashes. Like I have a soft spot for chaotic characters but, the actions he did messed me up but, I still love him ;-;
Yeah I know. That's why his character is so interesting. He is my favorite character in the whole franchise
It bothers me a bit when people say that Ouma did bad things with good intentions. We can't really know wheter he tried to win the game to save the others or just because he wanted to win. Everything he said can be interpreted as a lie.
If he really cared about the others, he wouldn't have got Iruma and Gonta killed. People usually say he had no choice, but to be honest that's pretty naive. Case 4 was extremely easy to avoid. All he had to do was show Miu the "truth of the outside world", which would take all the motivation away from her. He could have even shown the motive to everyone as he did in chapter 5 without pretending to be the mastermind, and it would have worked (that would have also prevented case 5, since Shirogane wouldn't have been able to frame him as a remnant of despair). Or he could have used all her tech to escape the school with the others. If he knew there was an audience, then he knew the truth of the outside world was actually a lie. Yet he chose to get 2 people killed "for the evulz".
But besides that, people usually forget all the little bad things he did during the game, like treating Keebo and Iruma like shit, or being generally mean to everyone, for no real reason. Being an asshole doesn't make you complex, especially if your behaviour is never explained. But people usually forget that and view him as a hero regardless.
I know that acting like a bad person doesn't make him a badly written character, otherwise all villains would be badly written. I think the main flaw he had that was his mastermind plan was forced and stupid. Momota was right when he called him naive in chapter 3. He had no reason to believe the plan would work. In fact, Saihara did pretty much the same thing in chapter 6 when he proved the mastermind broke her own rules, and it had no effect. Shirogane brushed it off and continued. So even if Momota hadn't spoken in the end, everyone would have died after that trial.
His plan about sharing motives was also bad. Thinking that Toujou would refrain from killing just because the others knew she was the prime minister was naive. Someone as strong willed as her would have carried on with her plan no matter what. And there would be a lot more people likely to kill due to the motives. Iruma could have decided to kill earlier, and maybe Harukawa too (I don't remember whether she saw her motive or not in the game, but since she had been killing for her orphanage in the past, it would make sense for her to kill for it again if it was in danger).
And yet Kokichi is also characterized as someone extremely smart who can figure things out before everyone else. It's a bit inconsistent in my opinion.
Regarding the comments in Weeby's analysis, I think you gave the "dark backstory" theory too much importance. It was just some speculation she made about his past, with not much relevance to the rest of the analysis. However, Ouma's comment in chapter 3 about him and Momota coming from different backgrounds may imply that he had a different childhood.
“He had no reason to believe the plan would work”
He literally explains why he believed the plan would’ve worked in his final moments. In his words, “Death games are meant to be watched. If no one was watching, there would be no reason to be such a stickler about the rules… There would be no point in making this a game in the first place… But Monokuma’s been a stickler about the rules, and about making the game interesting. Thats why he agreed to my plan in the virtual world.. Which means Monokuma is aware that someone is watching us… In which case, I have no doubt that this death game is being shown to someone.” (Honestly, while writing this, I realized he literslly never said why that would end the killing game even though he was responding to Kaitos question but Kaito does explain that if they ended up thinking that either Maki or Kokichi killed Kaito, Kaito would come oit of the exisal and Monokuma’s ruling would be invalid and the fans would’ve probably been upset about this, which wouldn’t allow the killing game to continue). So yea, he had a reason.
Also I don’t think his idea in Chapter 2 was bad because how could he have predicted that Kirumi would’ve been the killer? Or that her motive would’ve been so serious? And if his plan had worked, that *might’ve* drove the idea that hey- we all have reasons to get out of here, so maybe we all should be wary of each other into their heads like Kokichi was trying to do from the start. Also to answer your question, she didn’t see her motive video. In the trial she admits she ignored the video because she thought it was something stupid, but reguardless, she didn’t even have her own video.
I am, however, confused on whether or not the way he executed it was bad, because I initially thought so, but after some thought.. by that point, everybody already thought of him as an untrustworthy person, so he probably wouldn’t be able to gather them willingly, and everybody had already decided _not_ to share the motive videos, so that would be another reason why he wouldn’t have been able to gather them willingly, but I don’t know. A few years late, I know, but if you’re still there, I would like to know your thoughts on at least the execution of his plan. While I don’t really agree with most of your arguments, you do make some pretty good ones.
Also yea, I agree, case 4 could’ve probably been avoided if he did what you suggested. I honestly don’t know what to think about it since if he had showed everybody the outside world, Tsumugi probably would have just pulled out the same flashback light motive and they wouldve gotten the courage to fight, a murder would happen and the killing game would have gone back on like normal. besides, that point he was already started to paint himself as the mastermind, and so all of that plannjng wouldve been thrown out the window just for that, making it literally pointless to do.
And if he had just shown Miu, she wouldve probably told everybody, and the same outcome.
He does also admit that him using Gonta was apart of his plan to make everybody believe he was the mastermind, and I do think he cared about everyone, even Gonta who he sacraficed and so I’m sure he thought that sacraficing them woudlve been better than having either the killing game continue or having everyone die if Miu’s plan had worked.
Also, just personally, I think you would be able to call Kokichi a complex character if he had a good backstory, because most of the stuff people think about Kokichi is usually just based off of their own interpretations of his character. But kokichi, with no backstory, really doesn’t have a reason to act the way he does, and the way he acts and thinks led to the things he decided to do in the killing game but theres literally no given reason for him acting like that. Because of this, I wouldve call him complex, more like impossible to figure out. I do think he’s sort of far from badly written, but probably just think that due to the bias of him being my favorite.
@@jaxon1670 Wow, someone replied to my 2 years old comment :O I don't remember the fine details of Kokichi in V3, but I still stand by it. I think Ouma is like a blank slate: there's no truth to his character, and anyone can project whatever they want onto him an be right. There's a massive reply incoming, even bigger than the previous comments. I left a tl;dr at the end if you don't want to read it. But since you asked, here is my answer:
About his plan in chapter 5, I don't think he had any reason to think it was going to work. There's no connection between there being people watching the killing game and the killing game stopping if the mastermind was pushed to break her own rules due to some elaborate scheme. The most obvious responses from Monokuma after being told by Kaito that his veredict was wrong were:
-Saying "I guess I was wrong. I'll correct my mistake" and executing everyone while Kaito died anyway.
-Denying Kaito's claim by claiming to have special hidden cameras that are immune to the bomb he allowed Kokichi to have. He could say "nope, [whoever was voted] did it." and execute that person right away like he did in chapter 1-5.
-Forcing Kaito to get out of the exisal before making a veredict, so he wouldn't even have a chance to prove him wrong.
All of that makes a lot more sense that going "oh no, I made a mistake. Now I have to cancel the game and free everyone". Why on earth did Ouma think that made sense? And for the record, we already know the plan wouldn't have worked nor came close to working because:
-Saihara proved that Tsumugi cheated as the mastermind by breaking her own rules, and no one (neither the audience nor her) cared at all. She just briefly apologized and moved on. And that was a way more serious infraction than getting a veredict wrong because someone sabotaged the cameras.
-None of the real life fans lost interest in the game because of that plan. In fact, many people loved it. Wanting the killing game to stop despite enjoying it is one of the main charms of danganronpa.
And none of that wouldn't have happened if Ouma hadn't been an asshole and killed 2 people to "look" evil.
As for his plan in chapter 2, grossly underestimating Monokuma's motives even after watching his own motive (which showed him how serious they were) was really dumb from a supposedly smart character. That's something I would expect from a character who acts rashly without thinking of the consequences of his actions, not from the "planning mastermind" Kokichi. He couldn't have predicted that Kirumi of all people would be compelled to kill, but he should have predicted that someone would, especially since he loved to distrust people so much. I think the very real risks of showing everyone their motive video outweighted by a lot the possible rewards it offered. They all already knew people had a motive to kill (leaving the KG) and adding a second motive wouldn't have changed much.
As for the execution of that plan, I think it was too forceful. It caused needless angst, especially considering all that bug torture. He also didn't need to manipulate Gonta's feelings like that. Maybe he should have realized that if he couldn't convince anyone to follow his plan then maybe his plan wasn't as good as he thought. It's not like everyone else was dumb (see Saihara, who even Ouma seemed to respect). Before that, people thought he was a slimy jerk. That plan made him look like a villain who was actively working against them. But regardless of the execution, I think the plan was bad. I guess the writers would disagree with me, since they had Momota or Saihara acknoledge that the plan wasn't that bad during the trial.
As for the chapter 4 thing, I meant he should have shown everyone the motive like he did in chapter 5, especially since a murder was about to happen. I think not expecting Tsumugi to create false memories was reasonable. Even if he knew there were other people out there watching the game, he couldn't have known that all that backstory was a lie. Maybe the spectators had escaped in a different ship.
Giving everyone the courage to fight despite knowing "the truth of the outside world" would have been very hard without giving them an enemy. If Kokichi hadn't acted so cruelly just for the sake of it, making him the villain to motivate the others would have been harder. And even with the "ultimate despair" fake memories, no one would have had any real motive to actually play the killng game like Monokuma wanted, since there was no world to return to, especially alone.
At that point he had done barely anything to set himself up as the mastermind (only carving some letters on that stone, I think). If he was as smart as the writers say, he should have known it was time to call off his plan, which would have been really easy. He could have used Miu's tools to at least attempt to revolt against Monokuma instead. It was risky, but still much better than his choice. The fact that he still chose to kill 2 people to "look" evil makes me think he was either really dumb or didn't actually care about the group at all and was just trying to have fun and be evil for the sake of it.
The story insists on making him look smart, and his actions are weird if we see him as pure evil. That's why I don't think he has an actual character; one can project whatever one wishes onto him. But if I have to pick an interpretation, I'd say he's just evil and wants to win the game to satisfy his pride, even though that partially contradicts his motive video which said he was a pacifist. But there's one thing that is important to remember: Although his plan was dumb and his motive was very shaky, he made chapter 4 really enjoyable.
Personally I struggle to think he cared about Gonta since he got him killed instead of sacrificing himself, but I also don't understand why he would fake grief before Gonta's execution. I also don't believe he cared about the group, as he treated everyone like trash (especially Keebo). In fact, he would have pushed everyone to suicide in chapter 5 if Shirogane hadn't intervened. His plan of making everyone fall into despair to remove their will to kill wasn't that bad, but it needed more empathy and hope to succeed without getting everyone killed anyway.
Lastly, I totally agree with your last paragraph. Ouma is just like the ending of V3: he may seem complex and thematic, but if you actually look at him there's nothing there. I don't even know if the writers actually know the answer or if they just threw in some contradictory elements because "the theme is truth vs lies", hoping that each fan would write the rest in their head and argue about it.
But despite all of that, I don't think Kokichi Ouma is badly written. He conquered the hearts of thousands of people, and that has to mean something. I'm just pointing out flaws and arguing because I find it fun. I still think he isn't deep, though.
Haha, what an essay. Thanks for reading it if you did. Ouma is certainly good at generating discussions, which is another point in his favor.
tl;dr: I still think Ouma's plans were dumb and I just can't see him as someone who cared about the others. But I don't think he is badly written, because he made great contributions to the fandom and the game.
@@11th-lemon okay so, thanks for the tdlr, you typed a LOT and i respect this but i’m not gonna read the entire thing since it’s pretty late for me but i still want to respond , so i’m jus gonna read bits and pieces- meaning i’m not gonna respond to the whole thing in its entirety
honestly yea, when i first went through the game i was genuinely confused on how that would end the game. i guess i understand more now, but i think it was just wishful thinking on his part because yhay was the only other way he could end yje killing game at the moment so he really couldn’t resort to anything else. also, kokichi wasn’t alive for chapter 6- and so i don’t think he knew that tsumugi would possibly just brush it off especially since when he was alive, all the evidence was supporting his thought that they couldn’t mess up the rules. and i also don’t really know what part you’re talking about, being honest..
and also yea, i’ll admit, as a person the game tries to portray as smart, there are a couple of moments like chapter 2 that makes it seem like he isnt- he was so paranoid he wrote an entire dictionary of a script for his potential death, yet he didn’t even consider the severity of the motives or at least just how far one would be willing to go due to it. it just makes me kind of sad that the writers portrays him as this super super smart character yet have these stupid i guess “plot holes” too, like it just doesn’t make it any sense.. i would like to believe he’s genuinely really smart but only when yhe writers want him to be which is annoying as fucking shit 💀
but yea the solutions you suggested he would do were definitely better and i’m sure the writers considered it even but considering as it would probably _actually_ end the game, kokichi couldn’t have done it. nobody can end the killing game unless it’s the protagonist.
and also, on the whether or not he actually cared about gonta & the others- let’s agree to disagree before it becomes into a pointless argument that never progresses. the reason why we both think what we do is cs of the fact that like i said earlier, everybody has their own interpretation of kokichi- so it’d be kind of pointless to battle each other with our own interpretations of his character because we don’t perceive the same thing when we see kokichi ouma and his actions, if it makes sense.
@@jaxon1670 Yeah, I'm not trying to battle you. Ultimately I understand to Ouma couldn't be too effective because then the story couldn't work. I do think predicting that his plan wouldn't have much of an effect was really easy and that the plan wasn't his only option, as he actively chose to die to carry it out.
OMFG TYSM FOR THIS ANALYSIS I RLLY NEEDED SOMEONE TO LOGICALLY STAND UP FOR KOKICHI-KUN
Me : I don’t like the lie boi
My brain : clicks any video with Kokichi in it
I made a DnD character based on Kokichi. Hardest roleplay of my goddamn life, but totally worth it. my party hated my rogue, sure, but we made a beholder commit suicide, so i guess i did everything right
10:24 why is Shuichi…blushing…while everyone else is angry…?
w a i t..
Hold up-
Tsumugi isn't angry either despite having a sprite for that...
@@kiwikarp9509 yes but she looks more worried and so does Gonta- It’s just that Shuichi is blushing instead of being more nervous, worried, or angry
Although Kokichi did care and was actually trying to stop the killing game and keep others alive even if that means sacrificing others but that doesn't mean he did nothing wrong he did a shit ton of things wrong but he is not mentally insane lile Nagito
Why does Kokichi sound like shane dawson with a sore throat
@@schluuurrpp Thanks
Kokichi is an interesting character. He maybe did something wrong but really, he has good intentions. He's just concealing these intentions with lies. poor baby ;-;
Not a justification
@@mrchocoslave7859 Doesn't change the fact that he had good intentions and only betrayed his morals when he believed it could stop the killing game. And even when he manipulated Gonta, he very explicitly struggled with guilt and self hatred during the trial (as shown in his frequent emotional outburst) due to his hatred for killing.
Bruh this needs more views
I genuinely don’t know how people can think Kokichi is actually evil.
If you look at everything he did, him being evil makes no sense.
Sure, he wasn’t a very nice person and maybe not even an especially _good_ person, but he is just **a** person. He was capable of feeling real emotions and having real opinions. Even if they’re constantly obfuscated by his lies, that doesn’t mean nothing he ever said was true.
I think he’s a very tragic character for that reason. He’s just a kid, put in this horrible unwinnable situation, and just because he’s sort of annoying everyone assumes the worst in him at all times. Even before chapter 4, whenever he expressed his opinion or had a genuine emotion, they only ever reacted with annoyance or disbelief and assumed he had bad intentions. I get he was rude and unpleasant at times (specifically, at ALL times) but it can’t be easy being ostracized just for disagreeing with the general consensus of the group. They’re always so sure they know when he’s lying, but they are very often wrong. And even when he tells the truth, they don’t believe him, and even then they still don’t understand why he lies.
He’s just a kid who wants attention. It makes me feel bad for him. Especially since, after all that, he still gave his life for all of them, even dying in a completely gruesome manner. For the people that never trusted him, were never friends with him, hit him, shot him with crossbows- those people. He died for.
Truly was the boy who cried wolf. I think he’s a great character.
I believe Kokichi being heavily misunderstood in the fandom is a natural result of the type of character he was written to be. The main theme of V3's plot is "truth vs lies". Shuichi, as the Ultimate Detective, is entrusted with the job of revealing all truths, while Kokichi is the opposite: a person who frequently lies. Due to the role that Kokichi plays in the story, not only the other characters, but the player as well, have a hard time understanding his actions and his reasons. It's difficult to discern his lies from his truths. Kokichi does such a good job of painting himself as a villanious psycopath that he manages to deceive even the people playing the game. For that reason, I believe he is the type of character who can never be truly understood or explained, but it's still fun to analyze him.
I wouldn't say that he didn't do anything wrong, most of what he did was wrong, but it was for a good cause.
This is why the minor antagonists in Dabganronoa are so interesting, they all are people who would probably do awful things for what they deem as 'right'.
It's why the minor antagonists are the most popular and loved characters, because they are honestly so interesting and can sometimes be more enjoyable than the rest of the characters.
The classic definition of a "Well Intentioned Extremist".
I've never really had an opinion on Kokichi, but it seems that this was the right video to come to.
I believe kokichi is a good example of “The ends justify the means”
Hello everyone! im just here to clear/clarify some canon facts on why kokichi isn't as bad as a character, why he saved many lives in danganronpa (not all lives btw) and why he had a twisted personality and I'm going to decode everything that you need to know about kokichi! Soooo lets get into it! And if you think I'm a simp or fan girl or main-kokichi-kin that's not what my points value- I'm saying that ppl of the fandom toxic or not need to stop making ridiculous statements on someone such as a fictional character whom they barely know about much about not to mention someone with a weird personality such as kokichi ouma himself. So enjoy this essay XD (btw spoiler warning and this is my opinion so don't leave any hate i worked hard to put this together so please no hate.)
So we're going to start off with kokichis personality. Kokichi ouma was the ultimate supreme leader of "evil". He was a mean snake and was rude to everyone during the time of the game. He made and said his lies, insults, etc..but he didn't necessarily purposely have that personality. As most of the drv3 part of the fandom know he was originally a shy scared fragile but kind person. And for those of you who are confused, he faked this personality of his own. You see, he had a a secret organization named D.I.C.E or more likely what he called family. They only did harmless pranks and fun ones as said in this motive video! He supported DICE as they supported him and they had great relationships. He did get abused more before he joined dice (which were a group of orphans btw). And before he joined DICE he got bullied a lot and was very scared and sensitive by any rude words such as the miu insult "YOU little abortion" and which yes, kokichi was upset by that but sense he over exaggerates his emotions that made everyone think he is faking anger which he originally WASN'T because the boy has feelings ya know...Also he wanted to make DICE proud by surviving danganronpa but there was a twist!! He ended up risking his life for some "friends" and by "risking" yea! I mean he wanted to end the killing game by confusing and tricking monokuma while trying to beat monokuma at his own game. As if the 5th class trial were shuichi uncovers the "truth" monokuma says "kokichi tried to beat me at my own game BUUUT he failed!" meaning kokichi tried to trick monokuma so the killing game wouldn't properly function and monokuma would loose. But that sadly didn't work and kokichi just practically died for NO REASON! :( and most of us who played or saw scenes of the 5th class trial game play, also I've played myself it was great, as himiko said "he's crazy! why would he go that far", well he is a bit crazy, OK HE IS ALOOOTTT CRAZY- but he did it for a good reason. He wanted to sacrifice himself as a so-called mastermind and at the same time wanted to stop the game from properly functioning! So yeah that's the gig for that chapter that decodes why kokichi seems like a snake! Also to clarify, his canon backstory doesn't exactly relate or clear the facts that kokichi deserved better because all that happened in the kg has some to do with the backstory, but it doesn't intentionally mean "he has a sad backstory so i blame all the characters for kokichis words and actions." ok n o . His backstory doesn't determine much but it can have some effects which it did.
Next topic is kokichis mixed emotions (which is the ending conclusion of this opinion theory). So as you know kokichi has some weird reactions to when he is physically or mentally insulted. He had to hide his feelings to that his personality wouldn't break its character and it was perfect but not that no one believed kokichi was faking his emotions because of his layered lies but some of the time he wanted for some of the others to warm up to him a little. He couldn't break character because of his plans and he had one personality to use the whole entire game. Also, when shuichi says "your alone, and always will be.." that did bring kokichi to tears. Another thing, he had and had to emotionally distance himself from everyone because he didn't want them to like him (mostly because he in some way knew that their were viewers and so he wanted them to like him more but that's not why he was rude and etc..) but he also made the game more funny and interesting then moreso was most of the time very sad and brutal over all. I think that he is an misunderstood character and he did a lot for the others. Also he gave so many hints in the killing game such as clues, mysterys, truths, and moreover answers to some of the ways certain things happened in the class trial. He was over all a smart character and for those who think he is bad because he did seem a bit messed up i agree with that and he did have good intentions but at the end of the day, he was just a lost soul trying to find a flicker of light for some of the danganronpa participants but at the same time he had to put on an act because without his annoying shitty personality he wouldn't have cracked many clues, we would have ruined his plans by a type of mental break down performance, and his character personality would make the game and some parts of it hard to be happy about. So you see, kokichi is a very interesting character who is deeply misunderstood. So anyway ty for reading please don't send me hate it breaks my heart. Also you may have an opinion on my 'essay' but you can't go against my thoughts and feelings on some of what i wrote that's all bye ^^
This actually cleared up a lot of confusion for me, ty!
@@hithere3192 your ever so welcome im glad it did ^^
Tsumugi Shirogane is underrated.
Basically, she's Junko.
u right
Kokichi is my favorite character in V3 Because I related to him on a personal level sorta. I am pretty good at lying so once in a while I could catch His "Lies" but I get/got what he was doing till his final breathe he was actually pretty logical and helpful in his own way. But it's something people can't or won't easily catch the first time. It's like a two faced lie you won't really get it or you'll only understand a half to soon. It's not easy to understand. This video just defines that kokichi is actually pretty logical in what he's doing justifying it Wich I'm happy about. Though it's not ok as what kokichi's plan entails would definitely lead him to his death in the end Wich he did. In the end kokichi was actually a pretty good guy. Though not by half I'd say.
The fact that he didn’t even kill anyone......
.......himself
I think it's unfair to say any Danganronpa character is a bad person purely for their actions in the killing game, because their killing game self and 'normal' self are 2 completely different people. Let's say you were to be put in a situation where you're held hostage and have to kill others/ decide who dies and your life is constantly on the line at any given point in time, you obviously would act differently because your in a abnormal situation where the rules of normal life don't apply. Yes, there would be people who would try to keep everyone together and be heros, but there would also be people who would try different means of keeping everyone safe and others who would just crumple altogether, which are all valid responses we've in the Danganronpa franchise. Having a response where someone crumbles or acts like Kokichi doesn't make them a bad person, just someone responding to the environment they have been forced into.
I don't think Kaito not revealing himself would have completed Kokichi's plan. Shuichi already went far enough in his explanation on how Kaito would have done it that Monokuma would have taken a gamble on it. Shuichi would have had to figure out Kokichi's plan earlier, stop his explanation and come up with a better life for it to work.
When i got to Rantaros room with the puzzle, I remembered Twins B and then took horse cause they had similar ears :/
then the game reminded me on how much of a dumbass I am.
Nuh-uh. No way, Jose.
Okay serious talk here lol, he definitely did smth wrong, but for good intentions.
WHAT GOOD INTENTIONS? GETTING IRUMA AND GOKUHARA KILLED? like please
Ending the killing game. Sure he’s morally ambiguous as fuck, but he weighed the lives of Miu and Gonta against the lives of everyone who would survive that trial. He genuinely believed he could end the killing game on his own terms. And like hell anyone would believe him about Miu trying to kill him, so he really had no other option.
@@blindbysza geez u rlly hate him i see u everywhere
@@nadeenalqudah6973 yes i have devoted my life to be number 1 kokichi hater
@@blindbysza super highscool level kokichi hater!
i feel like the shit he did was really unforgivable especially since he manipulated so many people even if it was for the right reasons i just don't stand by it. personally, i don't like him and i saw some comments saying "oh he's so hated" when in reality a lot of people like him to the point i'd even call him overrated.. i don't hate the guy but he's definitely not my favorite. i think he's a great antagonist and his character is cool but i just don't like him as a person.
Kokichi. Hated him at first but I feel like that's what the game was going for. They mixed bakyagas and nagitos persona. He has both their intelligence, bakygas manipulation, and nagitos destruction.
"Kokichi Did Nothing Wrong"
BRUH HOW HE SACRIFICED GONTA I NEVER FORGIVED HIM AT THAT POINT OF CHAPTER EVEN IF HE IS MAH BEST BOI HE DID SOMETHIN WRONG
“Kokichi did nothing wrong”
THE ENTIRETY OF CHAPTER 4 WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION.
That's why it's in quotes lol
@@pumpkin7079 thank you, person with a brain
It was in quotes for a reason man
Title: _”Kokichi Did Nothing Wrong”_
Me: *”I still hate hiM-“*
@Holy Bible not really, I don’t like him still: but there are some pros about him like:
-he’s the only one who’s isn’t annoying and says “this is just a game” or “we’re going to get out this together!” Which was pretty annoying throughout all the games if I’m gonna be honest
-his design is cool
- and he’s funny (ig)
And the cons are:
-he’s rude
-he’s annoying
-he’s the reason Gonta killed Miu (RIP GONTA HIJ WILL BE MISSED-*
-His whole personality is pretty bad I general and doesn’t show much character development:/
But I don’t hate him. This comment was purely a joke for the lol’s, I don’t hate any characters in danganronpa because there’s no point because they’re not real. But I just don’t like his character/ personality.
@@_moisty_7152 yeah, i also found the “we’re going to get out this together!” thing annoying lol
This is completely random but sometimes u can hear a small little tiny ity bitty bit of a vally girl accent in his voice.
Not knowing how to write Kokichi the way he deserves to be written was one of the biggest things stopping me from writing a Danganronpa fanfic. Thank you for this slight character analysis :)
Also I feel a lot of people overlooked the fact he said that no one would care if he died and I feel like this might be a hint that he would die to stop the game but that might just be me
I love how this is such a controversial video, yet 70% of the comments is about the pronunciation
Love this video, great job!
It’s really refreshing to see an in depth discussion of this character, I personally love him so much because of his weaknesses and failings. But he is also one of the few danganronpa characters who come really close to ending the whole killing game. Any one-sided opinion of him (mainly that he is innocent and adorable or an annoying, liar, evil guy) clearly isn’t gonna work.
I like Kokichi. He was a great antagonist and while part of me is disappointed that the other characters write off his motives in the end, I think he had one of the best arcs of the series. I definitely feel like Kokichi is a good person, although I’m a bit of an optimist in that regard, but I realize that he’s not an altruist. What I’m trying to say is he’s a well written morally grey character
honestly, i on't get how people can see him as "pure evil", he did the things he did to try to save everyone.
@Maki Harukawa hello Maki-roll
Yeah, he b anti hero more like
@@delk9313 in a way, yeah
@Maki Harukawa Ok.....Maki-roll! Nishishishishi!
@Maki Harukawa Can't, I'm already dead!
Keade: *exists*
Subtitles: K a y a d a y
Rantaro: o n s o r r o w
But that's Kayayday's lie, isn't it?
The subtitles i cant-
"Cato"
"Cookie G"
"Karimi"
"Rihanna"
"Kermes"
"Cookie cheese"
"Red terror"
"Chi-su"
"He miku"
"Tanku"
"Kimiko"
"Hee miku"
"Cookie cheated"
"She eats he"
"Avvocato"
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"Kunta"
"Chi to"
"Kiki gi"
BYE-😩🖐️
Ight goodnight
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Kaito = avacado
Kaito is a cheeto