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Any thoughts about the movie itself now that you sins Jeremy video’s? Also, what about your thoughts on Despicable Me since this Illumination’s only successful franchise they made now that Minions 2 is coming out this summer?
@@MovieManReviews Of course, I liked this movie. It was much better than I thought it would be. Outside of my character _Th3Birdman,_ I was kind of surprised to hear that Jeremy of CinemaSins didn't like this movie. It's completely inoffensive and very well written and funny to boot. But it's as they say-- opinions are like ass holes: everyone has one.
Awsome as always (and yes I just use that incorrect spelling. Been doing it for years now for an odd reason). But unless I missed something, sin for you for saying 'shool' instead of 'school' at around the 12th sin lol. Have a nice day Birdy
Not to mention that the "Starting a film in the middle of the action cliche" is actually a well- respected literary device known as in medias res, a storytelling device so useful that it was used in The Odyssey. My inner English Major is NOT happy.
*Moral Lesson in Megamind:* _"Society may change your own perception of yourself and try to force you into a certain role but in the end you always have a choice"._
15:37 but he *DIDN'T* create a false identity for her to fall in love with him! He took that guys appearance to get her out of the exploding building and distract her from his lair. They keep meeting and its probably the first positive interaction he has that's not with Minion. They spend time together and talk about each other's life's and problems. This *is* how people fall in love! Probably one of the best representations of it in superhero movies. Lois and Clark basically had "because she's there and attractive" as their love story for decades. This "sin" pissed me off most.
Jeremy in Emperors New Groove video: sins someone for recognizing David Spades voice. Jeremy in Megamind: sins Roxanne for not recognizing Bernard's, a forgettable guy she met once, voice.
Not to mention the fact that the one who recognized his voice was pacha, who just spoke to him *earlier that day,* meaning kuzco's voice would still be fresh in his mind.
@@alexjewett7455 not to mention that what Kuzco says of "oh I recognize you, you're that whiney peasant from earlier" is a pretty big hint for Pacha that it's the emperor
Also, something about Megamind, I can confirm that the way he pronounces some words are... mostly realistic. I learned most of my vocabulary from reading a lot, which is most likely how Megamind learned, based on his backstory. English is not a phonetic language, but the mind usually assumes words are phonetic, which tend to be the words that Megamind pronounces incorrectly (although "Skoo-el" for school is strange)
As someone who used to read a lot as a kid, this has happened to me. I remember my mom correcting me when I said mischievous as “mis-chee-vee-uhs” instead of “mis-chuh-vuhs” I still use that pronunciation sometimes by accident because I used it for so long (verbally and in my head while reading) before my mom corrected me.
@@adriennedestroyer4197 well in one scene where he's hanging out with Roxanne as Bernard, he almost says "shool", but corrects himself. So if he's not doing it on purpose, he's at least aware that he does it.
MegaMind is being embarased about still living with his parents as a baby. Clearly his race can remember things as a baby, MegaMind literally explains this in this same dialogue ?????
Pronouncing words incorrectly is actually fairly common in people who read more than socialize, so I always thought that was a fun little thing they threw in!
Exactly I've gotten most of my vocabulary from reading and mispronounce some words here and there. I actually understood him messing up even as a child 😂
I want Jeremy to explain why starting from the climax is a cliché, but starting from the start isn't a cliché. edit: how did I watch this channel for a while. Are you still triggered by Jeremy saying woke one time 6 years ago?
@@kreatona4219 Nah he also sins stuff he likes, hence "Jeremy sins something he likes cliche" my guess he and his writers just think random thoughts and somehow makes them sins of the movie
Trey Rex DreamWorks should’ve make a sequel to this one instead of what DreamWorks has gotten us in recent years, except for Kung Fu Panda sequels and How To Train Your Dragon films because they were good.
@@MovieManReviews I wouldn't mind a Megamind sequel, but I think that's one of the reasons why Megamind is so good (At least to me). That it doesn't have a sequel.
Kenneth Stoddard Dream works went to shit when Trolls came out, and now, with 2019 (How To Train Your Dragon 3 / Abominable), they’ve made their grand comeback!
That’s not what the cliche is. The cliche is that a villain gets bullied as a kid so he turns evil. That specifically doesn’t happen often. A lot of bullied kids become good people, but movies like to go full on cliche.
So glad he loves this movie. I hate it when CinemaSins just calls an underappreciated movie "crappy". Like if a movie doesn't automatically make x amount of money, that automatically means it's bad, right? I just hate how Jeremy does this.
I absolutely love how most parodies of CinemaSins actually have something different than what CinemaSins has. CinemaWins talks about themes, writing, and great animation, You actually bring up good points and even give the most nastiest burns despite liking CinemaSins (I find that hilarious, I remember CinemaWins putting a :) on a video critiquing CS and that was more shade than any of CS' videos combined) Heck, even AnimationSins has something to say about the animation their dealing with. It isn't all "oh this is bad haha here's a sentence" but they actually talk about the good parts of the animation (if it's a good animation) Sorry for the long ass paragraph, but I love these channels that are somewhat better than CS, lol
@@evi_lution CinemaWins are not the same people as CinemaSins. I cannot understand why so many people think this... it's uncanny. They don't even sound alike.
The biggest problem with Despicable Me is Universal Studios advertising the HELL out of the Minions. I honestly like them but totally understand why people don't.
Kevin Krupski I agree. When I first saw Despicable Me in theaters, I thought the minions were pretty funny, but then they started to blow up and from there they just became annoying.
15:31 Roxanne cares because she cared about 'Bernard' and connected with him. Even though she was very hurt by him actually being Megamind, after he saves her and proves himself to be a good person, she feels the same way about him as she did his Bernard persona.
One of the things that's always bothered me about CinemaSins is the idea that a "kids movie" has to be played to the lowest common denominator in every single case. And that they can't deal with real topics, or include things which older children, parents, or just older audiences in general can also enjoy. Plenty of older "kids movies" have very heavy themes or ideas in them. Ever seen All Dogs Go to Heaven? And that movie is rated G!
On the "Michigan in winter" thing, I've only ever left Michigan twice, and let me tell you, this winter in particular has had some very not wintery days. We have cold winters, yes, but the snow isn't always there.
Not to mention I was raised there for 20 years and can label several green Christmases, snow then melted snow Christmases, and like you said, not all wintery winters.
Yeah, that was an exceptionally stupid sin. "It's not cold in this scene!" Uh, how can you tell? There's no snow on the ground, sure, but sometimes that is how winter do. Snow is precipitation combined with extreme cold, and small amounts can stick to the ground and then go away.
Yeah, I'm also more than tired of Jeremy misusing the word cliche when he more than likely usually refers to a trope. A trope becomes a cliche when it is overused. You'd think a channel called "cinema" sins would know that. Also, did I hear that right? This movie used AC/DC? lol *It did!* That's brilliant
Or pretty much every school shooting that happened. Oh wait, i forgot we're supposed to believe violent video games drove the kids to do this. Fun Fact: A couple years ago here in Germany school shootings happened frequently (i think one every year for 4 years in a row, which was a huge deal considering this normally never happened here). It was all over the News. Once news show even had a so called video game expert to talk about how video games encourage violence. The dude looked like he was in his 70's or even early 80's, i highly doubt the dude knew anything about Games. Also once a News Channel (german equivalent of Fox News) literally said a Kid who shot his Bullies in school (a fact they didn't mention) was training his aim with the video game Counter Strike. And they were dead serious.
@@CedricBassman the thing people kinda forget is that there is always a scapegoat for these types of events, before it was rock music and horror movies, people (especially the media) are so counter productive when it come to these things. Like maybe if people won't stop being dicks or tries to help these people maybe the wouldn't have shot up those schools (not saying they deserved it btw)
@@CedricBassman I'll beat you: once in my country a journalist said the yihadists that made the attacks in Paris were trained with Minecraft. I shit you not
Politically Correct yep now it’s video games and guns even tho most guns used in school shootings are obtained illegally and there’s no evidence of video games starting violence because the media are big brained people
For the sin about Roxanne caring, I'd like to add that even when he kidnaps her she's not worried and just has fun, witty banter with him. And her feelings for him developed through his disguise as Bernard aren't just going to disappear magically. Even in the scene where they find Metroman you can see she is already warming back up to him.
TLDR: The CS video here fundamentally shows Jeremy isn't getting the storytelling ques present in the movie. MetroMan's cavalier attitude when juggling babies, as well as his "I love you random citizen" shows he *is* a jackass that does a lot of what he does because it's all he's ever known and he largely enjoys the attention it brings him. This comes back up later when he chooses to retire and wants to keep his branding. He isn't motivated by genuine concern for the city or the people in it, otherwise he wouldn't give up protecting it, nor would he just sit out Tighten destroying things. He *is* a hero, but for entirely selfish and maladaptive reasons. He was set on the path of being a hero by other people and eventually came to want a different life. He's not wrong for doing this because the movie is ultimately about choice and people deciding what's best for themselves, rather than accepting what other people decide is right for them. As for Megamind himself, there's a fairly obvious reason he mispronounces words. He grew up surrounded by criminals, some of which are obviously missing teeth when they were teaching him words. It's not at all improbable that he never learned certain concepts properly and even during his schooling received very little one-on-one time to correct misconceptions. As for "Metrocity" it's clearly a play on words. MetroCity when pronounced that way makes it sound like he's saying mAtrocity. That's the bloody joke. As for his motivations, it's important to note that much like MetroMan, his position in society was decided by everyone around him. He grew up surrounded by criminals and was ostracized for being different during education, meaning he adapted by using his intelligence to try and one-up MetroMan. He built his entire identity around MetroMan and the dynamics people place them into. Fundamentally, he is a decent person who is simply misguided and does what other people indicate would make him happy. Not what he actually wants. (Also regarding MetroCity. Why doesn't Megamind just go to a different city? Moving is a big deal. Maybe he didn't want to move out of the city he grew up in and probably genuinely likes. Especially since he's already put down serious roots there and has his own evil lair. Yeah, he's bored, but that's still no reason to abandon all that work and time invested in what is genuinely his home.) This extended to Roxanne as well, because despite her disdain for him early in the film, she does come to recognize that Megamind, MetroMan, and herself are all victims of circumstance doing what amounts to street theater for everyone around them. They're the Hero and Villain because that's the role they were given by society. She's the Damsel in Distress. When MetroMan retires, it's abundantly clear that Megamind really has no ill-will towards the city or Roxanne personally, heck he's actually entirely harmless. He just does it for the modest amount of attention it gets him and in a convoluted way is how he hangs out with what amounts to his closest friends. Symbolically this is represented by her changing dress colors throughout the film, going from red to blue as she's coming to understand all of this. She's smart enough to realize this by the end of the film and is partly why she makes the choices she does. Tighten/Titan conversely wasn't assigned his position by the people around him, he chose to be a villain when he gained power. He wasn't motivated by being good at things, or being pushed into a role, he from the very beginning wanted Roxanne. He believed that because he was a superhero he was obligated to get the girl. Megamind as a film is poking fun at this legitimate cliche in comics and making a greater commentary upon human nature at the same time. That CinemaSins doesn't get this frankly leads me to think Jeremy really isn't qualified to "satirize" films or the critics of films. All he does is make joke-y jokes and look at films on a purely skin deep level instead of trying to understand the messages the movie is conveying in small details. The scene with the brain-bots early in the film? That's setting up the "Presentation!" scene. All it does is make CS look like that meme about only pretending to be an idiot. Whether pretending or not, the perception is still that they're an idiot.
You just wrote a whole essay on that with a clear structure and good points that are explained nicely and all the topics are relevant to each other... my English teacher would be proud.
Is no one going to bring up the fact that he mispronounces melancholy because let’s be honest here it’s not that common of a word and probably a good portion of people don’t even know what it means and criminals don’t generally strike me as the type that would be using the word melancholy on a regular basis
@@udontfeelsogood9037 Happened to come back to this video and checked the comment, I have indeed seen Schaffrillas Productions video on the subject, and I think he raises a fair number of legitimate points in regards to the value of the film. He did a great job at examining the characters and the themes at play, and I would be utterly lying if I said I didn't pick up on many of these elements thanks to him (such as the symbolism in the dress colors). In this case however, my concern is the perspective of the movie as a movie. If CinemaSins wants to play movie critic, he should look at it in a critical context as well as in a film context, which Schaffrillas Productions absolutely does.
11:52 Are we not gong to talk about how Jeremy sins a scene that shows Megamind reading a book that 'shows up later in the movie', when the scene that shows up 'later in the movie' is a flashback to when Metro Man faked his death, which happened way earlier in the movie, Jeremy doesn't understand what a flashback is ex machina **ding**
@@rileydavidson180 But Jeremy is saying that the book MM is reading shouldn't exist in that scene b/c that book exists/is shown 'later' in the movie, as in the 'future' of the movie, but the book existed way later, Jeremy is once again ignoring the movie just to make up a bullshit sin, it's stupid & Jeremy deserves 10 sins for it **ding**
Also, for the sin about the baby remembering his parents. There are actual real life people that remember being in the womb and their own birth. So it's not really that far fetched for Megamind, someone who has an extraordinary brain, to remember something as a baby. Props for also using Smooth McGroove's Guile Theme. Love that rendition of his.
plus, alien. a race of hyper intelligent aliens having perfect memory from birth? i mean, why the hell not? that's not even remotely the weirdest "alien power."
It bums me out how people don’t know what the word satire means. If cinemasins is satire, what is it satire of? Like...what are they imitating or emulating in order to show the absurdity of? Like, Stephen Colbert used to do a satirical show where he played basically a fake version of Bill O’Reilly (or fake Tucker Carlson for the zoomers who don’t remember Bill O). He was imitating them in an exaggerated fashion to make fun of conservative talk show hosts. So what is cinemasins imitating?
A common defense of CS is that he makes fun of overtly critical, nitpicking, dumbasses. They're the ones the satire is of, allegedly. Of course this falls apart when he uses the same criticisms in his legit critique videos.
I’m just angry than Jeremy was so harsh to the movie just because it was “a rip-off” of despicable me. Mega mind was a far more mature and well made film than despicable me. Also despicable me had left us with minion moms which I will never forgive the despicable me movie for.
@@lordpanic5445 and also both movies were secret projects, meaning no studio could copy from one another how do you copy something not released and also kept secret between one company
The way I understood it, Megamind wanted him to be Titan as in Greek Giants to envolk power, similar to Power man, Ultraman, Superman etc. But he thought his name was Tighten as in to make something tighter because he;s an idiot. Although, come to think of it, going ith your “Titan = good, Tighten = evil” hypothesis, “tighten” can also mean “strangle”, or “tighten your grip”, hold something more firmly, oppress the downtrodden even more etc. Either way, Jeramy doesn’t understand that characters in a movie can misunderstand each-other and be wrong.
@@Miestwin I think Megamind is good w/ just one movie, I _LOVE_ the movie no doubt, but I feel a sequel is a bit unnecessary. Unless they make it about Megamind being a good guy & a new villain shows up to be his rival or another hero shows up & tries to take down Megamind b/c he thinks MM is _still_ a villain. If they do something like that, then a sequel would be lovely!
When Hal asked why he went with Titan, Megamind said, "It was the only name I could trademark," implying that Titan was not trademarked initially and that was why he went with it.
@@rachelroberts1880 No I think it's that Hal's vocabulary doesn't have the word "Titan" in it or maybe it's too sophisticated a word for him(he's basically dumb) so he thinks it's "Tighten"
14:36 I interpret that Titan only has a fragment of Mertroman since his power comes from a tiny speck of MM's DNA and why later in the movie, he pisses himself thinking that the actualy MM is there
No its that titan has absolutely no idea he has the same powers as metroman, remember that for him he just is the son of his spacedaddy and he only has super strength flight and laser eyes cause that's only what megamind taught him to use, and megamind himself probably had no idea about the superspeed or he wouldn't even try to caputure metroman.
I always saw it as Titan didn't know he had all Metro Man's abilities because Megamind simply didn't tell him. After all, Mega created Titan as a proxy for Metro Man because he was lonely, and so he could recapture the fun of the showdowns they used to have, not to have a legitimate adversary, so of course he would hold certain info back. Mega didn't realise the scale of Titan's delusional outlook until things got out of control, so I'd say he was extremely lucky that he held off from giving Titan full disclosure
@@Argon598 Also, it's likely he knows he has some form of super speed (if only because he flies fast). But if Hal were to even put it together that his powerset is the same as Metroman's, there is no indication that anyone knew he could use Flash Time
I always loved the Theorizer's, er, theory, that Megamind was kept at the prison because they recognized that both he and Metroman were hyper intelligent/ potentially dangerous aliens. Metroman being raised by a wealthy family wouldnt be a stretch for them to have connections to government bodies. So the prison kept Megamind in the institution to keep an eye on him and to possibly prime him as Metroman's rival so they keep each other distracted instead of taking over the world or destroying things.
@@chandrakatel4354 I used the very secret technic called "condom", also you were drunk and I literally couldn't fight back because I am half of your size
@@jeltje50 eh, if they weren't *still* being insufferable and pretentious to this day, then the jokes would go away. As long as they keep making themselves annoying and relevant, the jokes will continue
One big thing about Megamind that resonated with me as a kid was his mispronunciation of words. I was a very quiet and antisocial kid and I read a lot. This led me to learn words that I had never heard said before and so when I tried to use them when talking, I often mispronounced them. When I saw Megamind for the first time and heard him mispronouncing words, I connected with him since its likely that he also learned words like Metro City and melancholy from reading rather than from conversations or TV. So I'm always kinda bummed out when people poke fun at Megamind's inability to correctly pronounce a word since I also did that.
And are now both owned by Universal Studios so there's a (very unlikely) chance we could see a ride at there amusement parks someday. The Simpsons right are gone in 2028 and they really need to update that kids area by ET so a DreamWorks area would be cool. That Or Pokemon, just update that damn area already and replace the Barney show with a ride!!!
And both films did a live appearance of the character where the lead actor appeared in costume, with Steve Carrel appearing as Gru in an alright costume on Ellen and Will Ferrel showing up as Megamind with his face painted blue and wearing a poorly fitted head prosthetic
@@NotBizarro Agreed. Michael might've been an obnoxious inconsiderate jackass but his sales skills made him a magic moron and he had good intentions in his heart. Diangello however was a sexist pathological liar and across the board, not a good person.
Yo did anyone watch cinema sins back in the day. When they actually had good reviews/critics. Now I can't get through a minute. I just wait for birdman to put up some content and click that instead.
I watch their videos of Movies that i know are gonna suck, like Captain Marvel. In this case i get the condensed Plot and a good laugh of them just trashing a Movie i was never going to like anyway. But that's about it.
@@CedricBassman That sounds like confirmation bias to me. You think a movie is going to suck, so instead of finding out for yourself, or at least getting reviews from multiple sources, you only watch something that will trash everything whether a movie is good or bad.
I remember when they had more "real sins" or at least funny ones. They were fun before the videos got so long. The filled the runtime with more opinion then sin and lots of BS. Kinda sad. I used to like their videos. But that was years ago.
Bill Johnson I see it as more like CinemaWins is the icon of hope and justice. Like Superman. Birdman is like Batman. The one proactively kicking his ass. Both great.
"Wanna keep playing this game? I can do this all day." Not gonna lie, the photoshop and that line really did make my day. Thanks Birdman and happy Valentine's Day to you, if you receive this and to anyone reading this
I understood Megamind being in prison from nearly birth was a metaphor from those who grow up with parents in prison or in the foster system or in gangs, etc. Many people grow up in horrible situations which push them towards addiction, criminal activities, etc. Megamind makes me think about the importance of your environment while growing up and that it can be overcome.
I think Jeremy's problem is that he lumps "kid-friendly movie" and "kids movie" together. A kids movie or show is made specifically *for* kids, like My Little Pony. A kid-friendly movie is a movie that's made *with the kids in mind* by keeping adult themes to a minimum, but is *still enjoyable for the adults*, like The Lion King or, in this case, Megamind. An adult can easily enjoy movies like this, and many do(myself included, it's the only Will Ferrell movie I can tolerate lmao)
Even though this was a childhood favorite of mine and I've watched it a lot over the years, I don't consider this a kids movie, I wonder why Jeremy thinks it's a kids movie, is it because it's animated? I'm sorry that doesn't make any sense, I firmly believe kids can watch this movie and will probably like it, it has a great message that kids need to know. His criticisms always have annoyed me, they're so basic and face-value and its honestly frustrating, if he was a random youtuber I wouldn't care as much, but he's called "Cinema" Sins and is in a sense a critic, he should be putting more time and thought into his stuff. I don't like ranting but Cinemasins is a channel I seriously don't like
Thank you for doing this movie. I personally love Megamind and got a lot of satisfaction from you roasting CinemaSins. And if anything, Despicable Me is a discount Megamind.
Megamind’s mispronunciation of some words probably comes from his lack of social communication- learning words through books and what little he was taught
2:35 took me 2 Goddamn years and alot of alcohol to get that song out of my head. Thanks Birdman. That being said, we're in agreement with this, and all of the sins for cinema sins.
Despicable Me: “This town isn’t big enough for TWO animated super villain-centered movies!” Megamind: “Oh you’re a villain-centered movie alright, just not a good one!”
9:13 A little note about that, I'm pretty sure the reason megamind mispronounces certain things is because that's a trait of asperger's, which is typically associated with ultra smart people in media. It's caused partially by being a social outcast, which megamind clearly is. (I have asperger's myself, and used to do something similar myself, specifically for steak, official, and engine)
I've never thought of it that way! Man, this movie keeps surprising me... I am ALL for representation for Aspies like me in media. This movie is a gem.
The thing I'm getting from this video is that You're burning Cinemasins with actual facts and that's actually more funny than their video. Also, I just realized, I wasn't a subscriber until now?! You have my subscription *cinemasins ding*
I like how you pointed out how Cinema Sins gives movies a sin for things that his mind comes up with. Like he thinks that Roxanne would’ve bullied Megamind as a child, and decides this a reason to sin the movie. In his Moana video, he sins the movie because he thinks “what if the water had actually been an adult in this situation???? That would’ve been so weird” (Also why is an adult doing a child’s hair weird to him in the first place?) Saying “Omg what if they did this terrible thing that would’ve totally worsened the movie instead of what they actually did” and counting that as a legitimate reason to hate on the movie makes no sense whatsoever
CinemaSins uses the “satire” defense when their videos just aren’t, they aren’t satirizing anything at this point. They just point out issues they have with films and those issues are very rarely even actual things wrong with the movie.
Rbuh Im deaddd, at 6:06, he says “They only appear similar if you take a surface level approach to movie criticism that appeals to the lowest common denominator” but in the captions it said “They only appear similar if you take a surface level approach to movie criticism that appeals to *idiots*” lol
Surprised neither Jeremy nor Birdman mentioned that Metroman juggling babies is foreshadowing that he really doesn't care about his job. Dude can't even be bothered to learn how to safely handle babies, let alone actually help people
The one true sin Jeremy didn't even point out despite all his nitpicking: The watch is shown to always maintain the wearer's eye color EXCEPT when Minion is disguised as Megamind at the end.
As a fan of both Megamind and Despicable Me, I can tell you that there is a massive difference between the two movies. Also, I would say Megamind is a kids movie, just not because it's animated. You'd be surprised how complex children's stories can be.
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Dang there were too few sins
Any thoughts about the movie itself now that you sins Jeremy video’s? Also, what about your thoughts on Despicable Me since this Illumination’s only successful franchise they made now that Minions 2 is coming out this summer?
@@MovieManReviews Of course, I liked this movie. It was much better than I thought it would be. Outside of my character _Th3Birdman,_ I was kind of surprised to hear that Jeremy of CinemaSins didn't like this movie. It's completely inoffensive and very well written and funny to boot. But it's as they say-- opinions are like ass holes: everyone has one.
Thank you for giving me a way to watch CinemaSins videos without screaming at/putting my fist through my computer monitor.
Awsome as always (and yes I just use that incorrect spelling. Been doing it for years now for an odd reason). But unless I missed something, sin for you for saying 'shool' instead of 'school' at around the 12th sin lol. Have a nice day Birdy
The fact that people call Megamind a discount Despicable Me feels like a slap to the face for the people who worked on Megamind.
Church yo!
Megamind is a godsend
Graceful Arrow I’ll go a step further. It’s a slap in the face to people who watched this movie. Because despicable me is just Illumination TRASH
I like it more than despicable me
Despicable Me is a fun movie, but it's no Megamind.
Not to mention that the "Starting a film in the middle of the action cliche" is actually a well- respected literary device known as in medias res, a storytelling device so useful that it was used in The Odyssey. My inner English Major is NOT happy.
That good old record scratch opening
Yeah and its definitely not a cliché. Trope? Yes. Cliché? No.
And in the Iliad, and the Anead along with countless others.
@@hoohoo431 I very much agree with you
@@_stupidbro is it considered a cliche where its so overused it becomes bad or something else?
*Moral Lesson in Megamind:* _"Society may change your own perception of yourself and try to force you into a certain role but in the end you always have a choice"._
E.
Mr. Friendship
Underrated movie
Jeremy: Kids Movie?
Does anyone else think this could not only be a straight moral, but also a metaphor for animation's reputation as kids media?
hello there
15:37 but he *DIDN'T* create a false identity for her to fall in love with him! He took that guys appearance to get her out of the exploding building and distract her from his lair. They keep meeting and its probably the first positive interaction he has that's not with Minion. They spend time together and talk about each other's life's and problems.
This *is* how people fall in love!
Probably one of the best representations of it in superhero movies.
Lois and Clark basically had "because she's there and attractive" as their love story for decades.
This "sin" pissed me off most.
Exactly. It’s concrete proof that Jeremy doesn’t pay attention and makes things up, which he has to when he sins a good movie.
Jeremy ignoring all the good writing in this movie and calling it a “shitty discount despicable me” deserves 10,000 sins
Jeremy doesn't know shit about relationships
It may have been his real self she fell in love with but he was still using someone else's face. He basically catfished her by accident.
Jeremy in Emperors New Groove video: sins someone for recognizing David Spades voice.
Jeremy in Megamind: sins Roxanne for not recognizing Bernard's, a forgettable guy she met once, voice.
yeah. Let’s all ignore the fact that kusko is the emporer so people would know his voice. Let’s just have jeremy have his ego
Not to mention the fact that the one who recognized his voice was pacha, who just spoke to him *earlier that day,* meaning kuzco's voice would still be fresh in his mind.
@@alexjewett7455 not to mention that what Kuzco says of "oh I recognize you, you're that whiney peasant from earlier" is a pretty big hint for Pacha that it's the emperor
I agree with you, but she had clearly met him before, seeing as she called him by name.
Also, something about Megamind, I can confirm that the way he pronounces some words are... mostly realistic. I learned most of my vocabulary from reading a lot, which is most likely how Megamind learned, based on his backstory. English is not a phonetic language, but the mind usually assumes words are phonetic, which tend to be the words that Megamind pronounces incorrectly (although "Skoo-el" for school is strange)
I blame the fact that none ever corrected him on that
I think he does it on purpose. I forget which, but in a scene he says a word right, but in the next he gets it right.
As someone who used to read a lot as a kid, this has happened to me. I remember my mom correcting me when I said mischievous as “mis-chee-vee-uhs” instead of “mis-chuh-vuhs”
I still use that pronunciation sometimes by accident because I used it for so long (verbally and in my head while reading) before my mom corrected me.
Good point, though that doesn't explain why he pronounces hello as "ollo", or spider as "speeider".
@@adriennedestroyer4197 well in one scene where he's hanging out with Roxanne as Bernard, he almost says "shool", but corrects himself. So if he's not doing it on purpose, he's at least aware that he does it.
MegaMind is being embarased about still living with his parents as a baby. Clearly his race can remember things as a baby, MegaMind literally explains this in this same dialogue ?????
Well, they do have big brains. Remember in Sky High, how the chemistry teacher could talk even after he was turned into an infant?
@@Nighlocktheawesome00I love that movie
@@hectorbarrera8046 same
@@Nighlocktheawesome00 Sad thing is everyone signed on for the sequel but it fell through
@@a.c.slater7989 which film? Megamind or Sky High?
Should have sinned him for not removing a sin for "presentation!"
That right there just proves that Jeremy is a villain, though not a super one.
Keegan Stormblade what’s the difference
@@jacksonduncan142 PRESENTATION!!!!!!
I like how this thread wrapped up
Chris Hansen me too
Pronouncing words incorrectly is actually fairly common in people who read more than socialize, so I always thought that was a fun little thing they threw in!
Exactly I've gotten most of my vocabulary from reading and mispronounce some words here and there. I actually understood him messing up even as a child 😂
It's also kind of clever when that's how Tighten discovers Megamind is MetroMan in disguise
FR, I'm a pretty social person, and even I used to mispronounce words I only knew from reading, it's a pretty normal thing
I want Jeremy to explain why starting from the climax is a cliché, but starting from the start isn't a cliché.
edit: how did I watch this channel for a while. Are you still triggered by Jeremy saying woke one time 6 years ago?
Because he sins anything he doesn't like and adds "cliché" at the end to make his opinions sound like they're valid criticisms
@@kreatona4219 Nah he also sins stuff he likes, hence "Jeremy sins something he likes cliche" my guess he and his writers just think random thoughts and somehow makes them sins of the movie
@@edschelchang6123 they don't think they just say shit
@@edschelchang6123I think Jeremy is chat GBT
@@coachcherokee1488or ChatGTP's blueprint?
Megamind is a freaking awesome movie! Shame it's not talked about much.
Trey Rex DreamWorks should’ve make a sequel to this one instead of what DreamWorks has gotten us in recent years, except for Kung Fu Panda sequels and How To Train Your Dragon films because they were good.
@@MovieManReviews I wouldn't mind a Megamind sequel, but I think that's one of the reasons why Megamind is so good (At least to me). That it doesn't have a sequel.
@@krishnanandpremanand3581 That would interesting to see.
Kenneth Stoddard
Dream works went to shit when Trolls came out, and now, with 2019 (How To Train Your Dragon 3 / Abominable), they’ve made their grand comeback!
Krishnanand Premanand and megamind becomes a schūll professor
Exactly. Bullying ISN’T a cliche if it always happens in real life
That’s not what the cliche is. The cliche is that a villain gets bullied as a kid so he turns evil. That specifically doesn’t happen often. A lot of bullied kids become good people, but movies like to go full on cliche.
@@Sharky2701 you literally just said people turning evil from bullying doesnt happen much and then called it cliche.....the fuck?
@@mistressofdreams6031 because it happens a lot in media, but not real life. In media it is kinda cliche.
@@Angelos42 Ha! You’d be surprised
@@Angelos42 how stupid are you most bullies become a bully because of being bullied
So glad he loves this movie. I hate it when CinemaSins just calls an underappreciated movie "crappy". Like if a movie doesn't automatically make x amount of money, that automatically means it's bad, right?
I just hate how Jeremy does this.
Exactly. If money = quality than The Bayformers, Suicide Squad, and The Smurfs LA reboot are amazing.
@@blinkachu05 honestly. I liked those movies.
probably because I had a low bar when wi was a kid
@@agzzradface3113 yeah same. Although I do enjoy Bayformers on a technical level, and some designs.
I really loved when the CinemaSins team picked up on the themes of the films and complemented it in a Cinemasins video.
I also hate it when he says, "This movie made more money then (insert movie or movies here)". It's really annoying.
theres SO much in this where i wanted to scream “jeremy, that’s the entire point of the movie. you’re complaining about the point of the movie.”
I absolutely love how most parodies of CinemaSins actually have something different than what CinemaSins has. CinemaWins talks about themes, writing, and great animation, You actually bring up good points and even give the most nastiest burns despite liking CinemaSins (I find that hilarious, I remember CinemaWins putting a :) on a video critiquing CS and that was more shade than any of CS' videos combined)
Heck, even AnimationSins has something to say about the animation their dealing with. It isn't all "oh this is bad haha here's a sentence" but they actually talk about the good parts of the animation (if it's a good animation)
Sorry for the long ass paragraph, but I love these channels that are somewhat better than CS, lol
In other words Cinema Sins lacks depth and substance.
"what does despicable me not have?"
*PRESENTATION!*
illumination, take notes
Why.....why are you so old?
@graffititurtle9035It's a reference to the movie.
Its funny how Jeremy thinks people didn't like this movie and is therefor constantly shitting on it, even tho most people who've seen it loved it
All people*
@@evi_lution CinemaWins are not the same people as CinemaSins. I cannot understand why so many people think this... it's uncanny. They don't even sound alike.
@@evi_lution those guys aren't even the same people, how did you even get that idea from
While I do think the plot could be better, I did enjoy the movie
Th3Birdman they work together though
Megamind is way better than despicable me. Should’ve gave him 50 extra sins.
The absolute disrespect on Megamind.
Totally agree but despicable me isn’t a bad movie the minions are the real mistake and they’re just mildly annoying
The biggest problem with Despicable Me is Universal Studios advertising the HELL out of the Minions. I honestly like them but totally understand why people don't.
Jen C Yeah, despicable me Isn’t a bad movie. I still watch it every great once in a while but I think Megamind is the better movie of the two.
Kevin Krupski I agree. When I first saw Despicable Me in theaters, I thought the minions were pretty funny, but then they started to blow up and from there they just became annoying.
15:31 Roxanne cares because she cared about 'Bernard' and connected with him. Even though she was very hurt by him actually being Megamind, after he saves her and proves himself to be a good person, she feels the same way about him as she did his Bernard persona.
One of the things that's always bothered me about CinemaSins is the idea that a "kids movie" has to be played to the lowest common denominator in every single case. And that they can't deal with real topics, or include things which older children, parents, or just older audiences in general can also enjoy. Plenty of older "kids movies" have very heavy themes or ideas in them. Ever seen All Dogs Go to Heaven? And that movie is rated G!
Yeah, it’s a mind set that I’ve always hated alongside the whole claiming anything that’s animated to be “only for kids” mind set
Imagine trying to explain what is wrong with f**king Megamind.
Well for staters, the blue balls- Oh, you meant the movie
@@jazz-cat00 Jazzcat00 said boner-
Ask Roxanne
I've never even gotten the opportunity to watch Megamind (I want to, believe me, I want to), and I know that it is a literal masterpiece.
It casts will ferrel
Dude Megamind was slept on so hard but it was goddamn hilarious
@@thefilmwatcher1302 it's just like yogurt said, "the search for more money"
On the "Michigan in winter" thing, I've only ever left Michigan twice, and let me tell you, this winter in particular has had some very not wintery days. We have cold winters, yes, but the snow isn't always there.
Not to mention I was raised there for 20 years and can label several green Christmases, snow then melted snow Christmases, and like you said, not all wintery winters.
As a Floridian, this information shall be useful in my conquest
@@lilithofthevoid4922 hey I'm legally a Floridian now... and also it feels like -11°F in most michigan now.
Nigga I’m on 7mile and greenfield it’s snowing like a mf and it’s cold ass shit
Yeah, that was an exceptionally stupid sin. "It's not cold in this scene!" Uh, how can you tell? There's no snow on the ground, sure, but sometimes that is how winter do. Snow is precipitation combined with extreme cold, and small amounts can stick to the ground and then go away.
Starting a story with a preview of the future is called "In Medias Res."
*CINEMASINS.*
Wow I didn't expect to see you here.
Oh my gosh it’s Josh!
Love your videos
And it's a 👏 fucking 👏 trope 👏 not a cliché, which makes it all the worse that he sins it
Cinema sins: insults megamind
The internet: so you have chosen... death
Yeah, I'm also more than tired of Jeremy misusing the word cliche when he more than likely usually refers to a trope. A trope becomes a cliche when it is overused. You'd think a channel called "cinema" sins would know that. Also, did I hear that right? This movie used AC/DC? lol *It did!* That's brilliant
SRA Online someone comments on a UA-cam video cliche
pieguy38 Ding
pieguy38 replying to a comment cliche ding
pieguy38 a joke? i laugh *ding*
Ed Dean ding cliche. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding...
"Bullying people leads to terrible things happening."
Remember the horror film Carrie?
Or pretty much every school shooting that happened.
Oh wait, i forgot we're supposed to believe violent video games drove the kids to do this.
Fun Fact: A couple years ago here in Germany school shootings happened frequently (i think one every year for 4 years in a row, which was a huge deal considering this normally never happened here). It was all over the News. Once news show even had a so called video game expert to talk about how video games encourage violence. The dude looked like he was in his 70's or even early 80's, i highly doubt the dude knew anything about Games.
Also once a News Channel (german equivalent of Fox News) literally said a Kid who shot his Bullies in school (a fact they didn't mention) was training his aim with the video game Counter Strike. And they were dead serious.
@@CedricBassman the thing people kinda forget is that there is always a scapegoat for these types of events, before it was rock music and horror movies, people (especially the media) are so counter productive when it come to these things. Like maybe if people won't stop being dicks or tries to help these people maybe the wouldn't have shot up those schools (not saying they deserved it btw)
@@CedricBassman I'll beat you: once in my country a journalist said the yihadists that made the attacks in Paris were trained with Minecraft. I shit you not
Politically Correct yep now it’s video games and guns even tho most guns used in school shootings are obtained illegally and there’s no evidence of video games starting violence because the media are big brained people
@@francisbacon5897 exactly, they don't want to accept the fact that they are part of the problem they just blame everything on fiction
Bird man: Not all animated movies are kids movies
Sausage party: *enters the chat*
@Dashing Beaver
Uh huh...so do you agree w/ him or...?
Jojo Isen yea I think he’s just adding to the point
Yes I’m saying that cinemasins is wrong
@@briancarranza8350
OK good to know.
Throw the South Park movie in there too, Beaver
"You know what other animated film is rated pg?"
*has ptsd flashback to the watership down movie*
ooooh noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The Secret of NIMH. One of my all time favorites and an animated movie has scary imageries, blood, death and constant danger.
And it's rated G.
@@DrZuluGaming have you heard of the animals of farthing wood? If not, stevereview did an excellent mini series on it
@@DrZuluGaming of that series, only three episodes were rated anything higher that a G ( or atleast the British equivalent)
For the sin about Roxanne caring, I'd like to add that even when he kidnaps her she's not worried and just has fun, witty banter with him. And her feelings for him developed through his disguise as Bernard aren't just going to disappear magically. Even in the scene where they find Metroman you can see she is already warming back up to him.
He also became predictable
It’s hard to hate someone like megamind. He’s just a loveabke goof
TLDR: The CS video here fundamentally shows Jeremy isn't getting the storytelling ques present in the movie.
MetroMan's cavalier attitude when juggling babies, as well as his "I love you random citizen" shows he *is* a jackass that does a lot of what he does because it's all he's ever known and he largely enjoys the attention it brings him. This comes back up later when he chooses to retire and wants to keep his branding. He isn't motivated by genuine concern for the city or the people in it, otherwise he wouldn't give up protecting it, nor would he just sit out Tighten destroying things. He *is* a hero, but for entirely selfish and maladaptive reasons. He was set on the path of being a hero by other people and eventually came to want a different life. He's not wrong for doing this because the movie is ultimately about choice and people deciding what's best for themselves, rather than accepting what other people decide is right for them.
As for Megamind himself, there's a fairly obvious reason he mispronounces words. He grew up surrounded by criminals, some of which are obviously missing teeth when they were teaching him words. It's not at all improbable that he never learned certain concepts properly and even during his schooling received very little one-on-one time to correct misconceptions. As for "Metrocity" it's clearly a play on words. MetroCity when pronounced that way makes it sound like he's saying mAtrocity. That's the bloody joke. As for his motivations, it's important to note that much like MetroMan, his position in society was decided by everyone around him. He grew up surrounded by criminals and was ostracized for being different during education, meaning he adapted by using his intelligence to try and one-up MetroMan. He built his entire identity around MetroMan and the dynamics people place them into. Fundamentally, he is a decent person who is simply misguided and does what other people indicate would make him happy. Not what he actually wants.
(Also regarding MetroCity. Why doesn't Megamind just go to a different city? Moving is a big deal. Maybe he didn't want to move out of the city he grew up in and probably genuinely likes. Especially since he's already put down serious roots there and has his own evil lair. Yeah, he's bored, but that's still no reason to abandon all that work and time invested in what is genuinely his home.)
This extended to Roxanne as well, because despite her disdain for him early in the film, she does come to recognize that Megamind, MetroMan, and herself are all victims of circumstance doing what amounts to street theater for everyone around them. They're the Hero and Villain because that's the role they were given by society. She's the Damsel in Distress. When MetroMan retires, it's abundantly clear that Megamind really has no ill-will towards the city or Roxanne personally, heck he's actually entirely harmless. He just does it for the modest amount of attention it gets him and in a convoluted way is how he hangs out with what amounts to his closest friends. Symbolically this is represented by her changing dress colors throughout the film, going from red to blue as she's coming to understand all of this. She's smart enough to realize this by the end of the film and is partly why she makes the choices she does.
Tighten/Titan conversely wasn't assigned his position by the people around him, he chose to be a villain when he gained power. He wasn't motivated by being good at things, or being pushed into a role, he from the very beginning wanted Roxanne. He believed that because he was a superhero he was obligated to get the girl. Megamind as a film is poking fun at this legitimate cliche in comics and making a greater commentary upon human nature at the same time.
That CinemaSins doesn't get this frankly leads me to think Jeremy really isn't qualified to "satirize" films or the critics of films. All he does is make joke-y jokes and look at films on a purely skin deep level instead of trying to understand the messages the movie is conveying in small details. The scene with the brain-bots early in the film? That's setting up the "Presentation!" scene. All it does is make CS look like that meme about only pretending to be an idiot. Whether pretending or not, the perception is still that they're an idiot.
You just wrote a whole essay on that with a clear structure and good points that are explained nicely and all the topics are relevant to each other... my English teacher would be proud.
I'm guessing you just watched Schaffrillas Productions, am I correct
Is no one going to bring up the fact that he mispronounces melancholy because let’s be honest here it’s not that common of a word and probably a good portion of people don’t even know what it means and criminals don’t generally strike me as the type that would be using the word melancholy on a regular basis
@@jameson1239 Megamind probably also got a lot of his vocabulary from books instead of conversation, as isolated as he was
@@udontfeelsogood9037 Happened to come back to this video and checked the comment, I have indeed seen Schaffrillas Productions video on the subject, and I think he raises a fair number of legitimate points in regards to the value of the film.
He did a great job at examining the characters and the themes at play, and I would be utterly lying if I said I didn't pick up on many of these elements thanks to him (such as the symbolism in the dress colors). In this case however, my concern is the perspective of the movie as a movie. If CinemaSins wants to play movie critic, he should look at it in a critical context as well as in a film context, which Schaffrillas Productions absolutely does.
11:52
Are we not gong to talk about how Jeremy sins a scene that shows Megamind reading a book that 'shows up later in the movie', when the scene that shows up 'later in the movie' is a flashback to when Metro Man faked his death, which happened way earlier in the movie, Jeremy doesn't understand what a flashback is ex machina **ding**
Sharp eye
@@dioncantgame
Grazie!
Except it is later in the movie? Sure, it's earlier in the timeline, but we get the flashback after we see Megamind's book
@@rileydavidson180
But Jeremy is saying that the book MM is reading shouldn't exist in that scene b/c that book exists/is shown 'later' in the movie, as in the 'future' of the movie, but the book existed way later, Jeremy is once again ignoring the movie just to make up a bullshit sin, it's stupid & Jeremy deserves 10 sins for it **ding**
The Birdman replaced the 24th sin count with "Mamba".
Respect.
👌
That’s why you have 69 likes.
Black mamba!
@Crystal Rowley White Mamba
The whole time they complained that some things are too mature for a kid's movie but wanted them to say murder? Ok
You do realize jeremy has the logic of an SJW right?
7:04 to be honest making a penny gun sounds like something Megamind would do
"This guy panders so much he should run for president on the Democratic ticket"
Dude....shots fired.
That’s what I like about Birdman. He’s not afraid to take potshots at both sides
911 I just witnessed a murder
I'm voting Democrat, but Hillary "Pokemon Go to the polls" Clinton still haunts my dreams.
@@thatrandomsquirrel2924 And I respect that smell of gunpowder.
@@hectorbarrera8046 Some people just enjoy being slaves, I guess.
Also, for the sin about the baby remembering his parents. There are actual real life people that remember being in the womb and their own birth. So it's not really that far fetched for Megamind, someone who has an extraordinary brain, to remember something as a baby.
Props for also using
Smooth McGroove's Guile Theme. Love that rendition of his.
plus, alien. a race of hyper intelligent aliens having perfect memory from birth? i mean, why the hell not? that's not even remotely the weirdest "alien power."
really?? I always thought I am the only one that remember about the womb thing... everyone I share the story with always look to me like I am crazy...
He's also a completely different species, so there is that.
No, they are just lying to get attention.
Amir Fahmi Jalilluddin wtf how is that possible? What do you remember and how can u trust that memory?
Cinema sins does not have a mega mind
Th3birdman on the other hand
He has something mega...
Ken Osiris nice
@@JustLeonJay thanks!
FieryFirefly he’s not even better
you do know cinemasins likes this movie, he just nitpicks it for fun
It bums me out how people don’t know what the word satire means.
If cinemasins is satire, what is it satire of?
Like...what are they imitating or emulating in order to show the absurdity of?
Like, Stephen Colbert used to do a satirical show where he played basically a fake version of Bill O’Reilly (or fake Tucker Carlson for the zoomers who don’t remember Bill O). He was imitating them in an exaggerated fashion to make fun of conservative talk show hosts.
So what is cinemasins imitating?
A common defense of CS is that he makes fun of overtly critical, nitpicking, dumbasses. They're the ones the satire is of, allegedly.
Of course this falls apart when he uses the same criticisms in his legit critique videos.
Himself
When Cinemasins started, it satirized that guy who nitpicks everything to death. Then the money started coming in and it became that guy.
his videos are jokes obviously- thats why some of the things he sins are so ridiculous
Taeggan If they where jokes, all things he sins where ridiculous, which the early videos where like.
movie: **has 0.00000000000000000001 seconds of logos**
jeremy: >:(
I’m just angry than Jeremy was so harsh to the movie just because it was “a rip-off” of despicable me. Mega mind was a far more mature and well made film than despicable me. Also despicable me had left us with minion moms which I will never forgive the despicable me movie for.
Megamind was being worked on before despicable me lmfao
@@lordpanic5445 and also both movies were secret projects, meaning no studio could copy from one another
how do you copy something not released and also kept secret between one company
The way I understood it, Megamind wanted him to be Titan as in Greek Giants to envolk power, similar to Power man, Ultraman, Superman etc. But he thought his name was Tighten as in to make something tighter because he;s an idiot. Although, come to think of it, going ith your “Titan = good, Tighten = evil” hypothesis, “tighten” can also mean “strangle”, or “tighten your grip”, hold something more firmly, oppress the downtrodden even more etc.
Either way, Jeramy doesn’t understand that characters in a movie can misunderstand each-other and be wrong.
*everything wrong with megamind*
Absolutely nothing
@21 pilots fanatics
You are 100% correct!
It doesn't have a sequel.
@@Miestwin that's the real sin here.... minions exists but megamind 2 does not.
Wolf Guard Miestwin, I agree with you that it’d be nice if Megamind had a sequel like three How to Train Your Dragon movies.
@@Miestwin
I think Megamind is good w/ just one movie, I _LOVE_ the movie no doubt, but I feel a sequel is a bit unnecessary.
Unless they make it about Megamind being a good guy & a new villain shows up to be his rival or another hero shows up & tries to take down Megamind b/c he thinks MM is _still_ a villain.
If they do something like that, then a sequel would be lovely!
The fact that CinemaSins sinned Megamind in the first place buys him a fast pass to double hell.
what he says: "Lowest common denominator"
what the caption says: "idiots"
i can tell this is going to be a fun video
Logos:*Exist*
Cinemasins: "I'm about to end this mans whole career"
Logos: *exist*
CinemaSins: “This is an Avengers level threat.”
TheBirdman: “Ditto.”
Logos: _exist_
Cinemasins: “a surprise to be sure but an (un)welcome one”
Logos: *exist*
CinemaSins: "I'm about to start my career"
Th3Birdman: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
And fail
13:05 I thought the joke was that "Titan" was trademarked, so Megamind went with "Tighten".
I thought it meant Hal didn't know how to spell Titan.
Yeah same
@@rachelroberts1880this and the comment itself are such W head canons
When Hal asked why he went with Titan, Megamind said, "It was the only name I could trademark," implying that Titan was not trademarked initially and that was why he went with it.
@@rachelroberts1880 No I think it's that Hal's vocabulary doesn't have the word "Titan" in it or maybe it's too sophisticated a word for him(he's basically dumb) so he thinks it's "Tighten"
14:36 I interpret that Titan only has a fragment of Mertroman since his power comes from a tiny speck of MM's DNA and why later in the movie, he pisses himself thinking that the actualy MM is there
No its that titan has absolutely no idea he has the same powers as metroman, remember that for him he just is the son of his spacedaddy and he only has super strength flight and laser eyes cause that's only what megamind taught him to use, and megamind himself probably had no idea about the superspeed or he wouldn't even try to caputure metroman.
I always saw it as Titan didn't know he had all Metro Man's abilities because Megamind simply didn't tell him.
After all, Mega created Titan as a proxy for Metro Man because he was lonely, and so he could recapture the fun of the showdowns they used to have, not to have a legitimate adversary, so of course he would hold certain info back. Mega didn't realise the scale of Titan's delusional outlook until things got out of control, so I'd say he was extremely lucky that he held off from giving Titan full disclosure
@@Argon598 *_spacedaddy is going into my not-to-say in roleplays or D&D games book_*
@@Argon598 Also, it's likely he knows he has some form of super speed (if only because he flies fast). But if Hal were to even put it together that his powerset is the same as Metroman's, there is no indication that anyone knew he could use Flash Time
14:30 "The irony is oishii" my soul left my body at this point.
I always loved the Theorizer's, er, theory, that Megamind was kept at the prison because they recognized that both he and Metroman were hyper intelligent/ potentially dangerous aliens. Metroman being raised by a wealthy family wouldnt be a stretch for them to have connections to government bodies. So the prison kept Megamind in the institution to keep an eye on him and to possibly prime him as Metroman's rival so they keep each other distracted instead of taking over the world or destroying things.
"People who don't understand what Th3Birdman is doing are ignorant cliche"
Another fun and entertaining video, man. Thank you
"you are not a feminist blogger, stop giving words new meanings"
Damn, that goes to my book, is awesome
You...just
*RAPED* ME
@@chandrakatel4354 I used the very secret technic called "condom", also you were drunk and I literally couldn't fight back because I am half of your size
People still make overused feminist jokes in 2020?
@@jeltje50 like the joke is old find a new group to drag through hell. I vote meme pages
@@jeltje50 eh, if they weren't *still* being insufferable and pretentious to this day, then the jokes would go away. As long as they keep making themselves annoying and relevant, the jokes will continue
One big thing about Megamind that resonated with me as a kid was his mispronunciation of words. I was a very quiet and antisocial kid and I read a lot. This led me to learn words that I had never heard said before and so when I tried to use them when talking, I often mispronounced them. When I saw Megamind for the first time and heard him mispronouncing words, I connected with him since its likely that he also learned words like Metro City and melancholy from reading rather than from conversations or TV. So I'm always kinda bummed out when people poke fun at Megamind's inability to correctly pronounce a word since I also did that.
15:26 You honestly should have added +10 sins for Jeremy even sinning this masterpiece of a scene.
Fun fact: Despicable Me and Megamind both star Dunder Mifflin bosses.
And are now both owned by Universal Studios so there's a (very unlikely) chance we could see a ride at there amusement parks someday. The Simpsons right are gone in 2028 and they really need to update that kids area by ET so a DreamWorks area would be cool. That Or Pokemon, just update that damn area already and replace the Barney show with a ride!!!
Ironically the worse boss made a better animated movie :/
And both films did a live appearance of the character where the lead actor appeared in costume, with Steve Carrel appearing as Gru in an alright costume on Ellen and Will Ferrel showing up as Megamind with his face painted blue and wearing a poorly fitted head prosthetic
@@NotBizarro
Agreed. Michael might've been an obnoxious inconsiderate jackass but his sales skills made him a magic moron and he had good intentions in his heart.
Diangello however was a sexist pathological liar and across the board, not a good person.
same movie confirmed
Yo did anyone watch cinema sins back in the day. When they actually had good reviews/critics.
Now I can't get through a minute. I just wait for birdman to put up some content and click that instead.
I watch their videos of Movies that i know are gonna suck, like Captain Marvel.
In this case i get the condensed Plot and a good laugh of them just trashing a Movie i was never going to like anyway.
But that's about it.
I can't even get through the first second and i dislike it!
(Not really, y'all who take things too seriously need to c h i l l)
@@CedricBassman That sounds like confirmation bias to me. You think a movie is going to suck, so instead of finding out for yourself, or at least getting reviews from multiple sources, you only watch something that will trash everything whether a movie is good or bad.
I remember when they had more "real sins" or at least funny ones. They were fun before the videos got so long. The filled the runtime with more opinion then sin and lots of BS.
Kinda sad. I used to like their videos. But that was years ago.
I liked them when they were pointing out continuity errors and legitimate plot holes.
Jeremy might be the villain, but he is nothing without you, the hero
Nah surely cinemawins is the hero, and birdman is the antihero
Bill Johnson not a bloody chance in hell
Bill Johnson I see it as more like CinemaWins is the icon of hope and justice. Like Superman. Birdman is like Batman. The one proactively kicking his ass.
Both great.
Th3Birdman is totes our Deadpool.
You know what?
Megamind isn't a discount Despicable Me, but Despicable Me sure is a discount Megamind.
14:10 “Hello everybody my name is Markiplier”
CinemaSins' mind size: *tiny*
Th3Birdman's mind size: *MEGA*
Bruh
"Wanna keep playing this game? I can do this all day."
Not gonna lie, the photoshop and that line really did make my day. Thanks Birdman and happy Valentine's Day to you, if you receive this and to anyone reading this
Ah yes, I’ve been looking forward to this. This is worth the wait.
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@@maryray4960 alot of people are when you are either bored or like to comment on videos, you see alot of people but don't tend to notice
Walter Magni No I mean this guy is EVERYWHERE *EVERYWHERE*
Walter Magni No the OP is a famous commenter
I understood Megamind being in prison from nearly birth was a metaphor from those who grow up with parents in prison or in the foster system or in gangs, etc. Many people grow up in horrible situations which push them towards addiction, criminal activities, etc.
Megamind makes me think about the importance of your environment while growing up and that it can be overcome.
this is known as nature vs nurture and you should look that up if you’re curious
@@scj6693 I'm quite aware already. But thanks.
I think Jeremy's problem is that he lumps "kid-friendly movie" and "kids movie" together. A kids movie or show is made specifically *for* kids, like My Little Pony. A kid-friendly movie is a movie that's made *with the kids in mind* by keeping adult themes to a minimum, but is *still enjoyable for the adults*, like The Lion King or, in this case, Megamind. An adult can easily enjoy movies like this, and many do(myself included, it's the only Will Ferrell movie I can tolerate lmao)
Even though this was a childhood favorite of mine and I've watched it a lot over the years, I don't consider this a kids movie, I wonder why Jeremy thinks it's a kids movie, is it because it's animated? I'm sorry that doesn't make any sense, I firmly believe kids can watch this movie and will probably like it, it has a great message that kids need to know. His criticisms always have annoyed me, they're so basic and face-value and its honestly frustrating, if he was a random youtuber I wouldn't care as much, but he's called "Cinema" Sins and is in a sense a critic, he should be putting more time and thought into his stuff. I don't like ranting but Cinemasins is a channel I seriously don't like
Me too
Animation = (only) for kids is a common train of thought, sadly
Thank you for doing this movie. I personally love Megamind and got a lot of satisfaction from you roasting CinemaSins. And if anything, Despicable Me is a discount Megamind.
Megamind is very underrated and is better than Despicable Me by a Kessel Run.
By a Kessel Run is henceforth my favorite insult
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Feel free to use it if you would like
I love how you pronounced "school" the way Megamind did.
Megamind’s mispronunciation of some words probably comes from his lack of social communication- learning words through books and what little he was taught
This is a really good video. Also Metro Man looks just like Markiplier.
2:35 took me 2 Goddamn years and alot of alcohol to get that song out of my head. Thanks Birdman. That being said, we're in agreement with this, and all of the sins for cinema sins.
Can someone request he do eww cinemacins on lilo and stitch bc he hurt my feelings with that video (and I have no money)
plagueman kyle nah but look at what he did to The Princess and the Frog
Well, he did pay a price, however. He had to watch the Cats movie multiple times
Despicable Me: “This town isn’t big enough for TWO animated super villain-centered movies!”
Megamind: “Oh you’re a villain-centered movie alright, just not a good one!”
11:09 cinema sins’s brain is gonna melt when he sees Megamind: the doom syndicate
16:23 Th3Birdman makes a pop culture ref-
Although tbf this was immediately preceded by a legitimate criticism of the same sin.
Nugnug Caveman But the thing is, he knows how to not oversell it, Cinema Sins is a completely different story.
9:13 A little note about that, I'm pretty sure the reason megamind mispronounces certain things is because that's a trait of asperger's, which is typically associated with ultra smart people in media. It's caused partially by being a social outcast, which megamind clearly is. (I have asperger's myself, and used to do something similar myself, specifically for steak, official, and engine)
Same dude, i can relate to all of that, though im not sure an alien species can be affected by human mental disorders, but maybe
I've never thought of it that way! Man, this movie keeps surprising me... I am ALL for representation for Aspies like me in media. This movie is a gem.
4:31 Shool lol, at least there's some humour in this sin video.
The thing I'm getting from this video is that You're burning Cinemasins with actual facts and that's actually more funny than their video.
Also, I just realized, I wasn't a subscriber until now?!
You have my subscription *cinemasins ding*
I like how you pointed out how Cinema Sins gives movies a sin for things that his mind comes up with. Like he thinks that Roxanne would’ve bullied Megamind as a child, and decides this a reason to sin the movie. In his Moana video, he sins the movie because he thinks “what if the water had actually been an adult in this situation???? That would’ve been so weird” (Also why is an adult doing a child’s hair weird to him in the first place?) Saying “Omg what if they did this terrible thing that would’ve totally worsened the movie instead of what they actually did” and counting that as a legitimate reason to hate on the movie makes no sense whatsoever
With Cinemasin's video I feel like Megamind said it best, "Old habits die hard!"
Birdman putting out videos at 1:17 in the morning but im still watching it
I've always thought this movie was leagues better than Despicable Me.
@14:40 As a extra cool bit, in the beginning when Metroman "gets vaporized" you can actually see him as a blur in megaminds camera for a few frames.
This is WAY better than cinemasins! Thank you for making jokes AND analyzing the movie in a meaningful way!
CinemaSins uses the “satire” defense when their videos just aren’t, they aren’t satirizing anything at this point. They just point out issues they have with films and those issues are very rarely even actual things wrong with the movie.
Epic Movie is considered satire, should no one point out how horrible that steaming pile of shit was?
Hector Barrera they’re not saying that. They’re saying how cinemasins just sins things they don’t like or doesn’t give actual criticism
10:50. DESPICABLE ME COST $69 MILLION AND MEGAMIND COST$130 MILLION. DESPICABLE ME IS THE DISCOUNT MOVIE (and I like the Despicable Me series)!!!!
This movie is seriously underappreciated.
Rbuh Im deaddd, at 6:06, he says “They only appear similar if you take a surface level approach to movie criticism that appeals to the lowest common denominator” but in the captions it said “They only appear similar if you take a surface level approach to movie criticism that appeals to *idiots*” lol
7:35 WOOOOOOW, you didn’t need to destroy him
5:22
I'm giving _you_ 15 sins for even _DARING_ to assume that Jeremy has ever read a comic.
He does, just to give himself an air of superiority instead of actually appreciating the medium.
Its 11 at night where I live and I have school tomorrow.
hmmm Go to sleep,Watch Birdman
Birdman it is!
iTsZaCh same
Surprised neither Jeremy nor Birdman mentioned that Metroman juggling babies is foreshadowing that he really doesn't care about his job. Dude can't even be bothered to learn how to safely handle babies, let alone actually help people
I got confused when Cinema Sins said how does he remember something when he was a baby WHEN HE IS A LITERAL F*CKING ALIEN
The one true sin Jeremy didn't even point out despite all his nitpicking: The watch is shown to always maintain the wearer's eye color EXCEPT when Minion is disguised as Megamind at the end.
or the fact that his eyes go from yellow to reddish-brown half-way through
METEOR MAN reference for the win! I loved that movie!
Just in time for us to get this Valentine's Day present. And here's a negative sin for displaying my comment in this video.
*reverse ding*
_Character drops object and it falls to the floor_
CinemaSins: "Following laws of physics" cliche. *Ding*
As a fan of both Megamind and Despicable Me, I can tell you that there is a massive difference between the two movies.
Also, I would say Megamind is a kids movie, just not because it's animated. You'd be surprised how complex children's stories can be.
Jeremy deserves at least 1000 sins for even considering winning this masterpiece