Dressed to Kill (Brian De Palma, 1980) Transition
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2010
- The moment of transition from Brian De Palma's classic thriller, "Dressed to Kill". With Angie Dickinson and Nancy Allen.
Robin Wood categorizes it as a "transition from one character to another as a center of interest... [t]he first female transgressor (Angie Dickinson) finds her reflection, even as she dies, in the second (Nancy Allen), as they stretch out hands to each other across the entrance to the elevator." (from "Hollywood from Vietnam to Reagan... and Beyond")
See also "Sisters", and the mother of all transitions "Psycho". - Фільми й анімація
Poor Angie Dickinson. I love her. She was 49 years old in 1980 and absolutely gorgeous and refined.
Damn, this scene still packs a hell of a punch all these years gone by. This is how movies should be made, everything works here.
Totally agree!
Angie Dickinson's performance elevated this film from a "slasher flick" to an artist triumph! Bravo Angie!
not really, another actress could have played that role and it wouldn't have made that much of a difference, it's the brilliant editing, the camera angles, the timing of the shots, the sound and the brilliant directing that elevates this film. The actors could have easily have been replaced by others, they are interchangeable the direction not
@@rikringers2846 so you just came on here to be a jerk.
@@michaeltnewyorknights8413 Damn straight! Rik (with a silent 'P') obviously subscribes to the Alfred Hitchcock philosophy that actors are mere 'cattle' to be directed, and that any movie's brilliance is down to the director alone! Nonsense, of course. And even Hitchcock knew in reality, casting the right actor or actress made the difference between a good movie, and a great one.
@@rikringers2846 I wonder if Kim Novak could have played the role. Kim and Angie are only two years apart in age. This was the same year (1980) that Kim did "The Mirror Crack'd."
@@gregingram4996 Kim looked much older in "Mirror Cracked" than Angie looks here.
I've no doubt Brian DePalma made the absolute right decision casting Angie in this movie. She's so memorable in this role, people still talk about it decades later.
The shock of this sequence (as with the shower scene in Psycho) isn’t just the sudden violence - it’s the fact that our main character is dead.
We didn’t just focus on Kate - we got inside her mind, we saw things from her perspective, we followed her every train of thought. For that to be quite literally torn apart was so jarring that we the viewer never felt safe from that point on.
It’s such a clever ploy - bravo de Palma.
33 years later and lived through several revolutions, typhoons, coups, monsoons, earthquakes, etc. & I'm still creeped out sometimes about getting on an elevator after seeing this movie. This it the my "Psycho."
What a scene!! This is highest art of film ever made!!! Look at the little child in the elevator. This is so psychological and deep and fantastic. Its like ""the last look on her" before she dies.
And its a child that looks to her. I think she felt humbled and guilty cause she betrayed her husband and maybe get a disease now. Angie Dickinson is the perfect cast.
You're damn right in my opinion!
“The highest Art of film ever made” 🤣🤣🤣
Outstanding performances from both Angie Dickinson ( deserved an Oscar nomination) and Nancy Allen that raised this movie to greatness! De Palma a master of his craft.
My late brother Sean & I loved Angie Dickinson.
She's so gorgeous .
Still a powerful scene after all these years...Angie Dickinson looks so good in these scenes
sten larsson this scene fucked me up and it still gets me and im 47yrs young
Angie was beautiful
In my opinion, one of the best scenes in movies.
Totally agree.
And my favorite scene in this movie is the crossover/spinning in the museum!
Angie should have gotten a Best Supporting Actress nomination, just like Janet Leigh did in "Psycho".
Times were different, back in the early 60's.
@@joel8583 that still does not exude the fact that angie should've been nominated !
@tall32guy In an extra on the DVD, Angie Dickinson discusses exactly how that entire scene was designed and shot. The little girl staring was suppose to reveal the gilt feelings her character was beginning to have about cheating on her husband. as lousy as he was. Her character was experiencing the universal feeling that people have when they think everyone else can "see" their guilt. Dickinson considers De Palma a genius in film making. Its a great film.
Absolutely!
I wonder, did Angie’s character recognize “Bobbi” or did she think she was the victim of a random serial killer with a straight razor? Did she believe that Bobbi was her museum lover’s wife or girlfriend? Didn’t the actress that played a police officer also appear as Bobbi?
@@jimhaggard7436
Exactly!
She's Michael Caine's body double as "Bobbi"!
I love that this film has minimal dialogue. De Palma conveys thoughts, emotions and terror in a subtle way. Angie Dickinson was a cougar
Cougar???
Aside from Angie Dickinson whom we all agree was an absolute STUNNER in this movie, can we also say how great Nancy Allen was in this movie ?
This was her finest hour, no doubt.
Nancy Allen's acting is so believable and TOPNOTCH she should have gotten an Oscar (wink wink).
DePalma’s early work is best circa 1980. Later in years not so much. One of my best films of all time.
This movie still scares the crap out of me. I can watch it alone during the day, but still not alone at night.
Not many get DePalma, especially his strange mix of humour, suspense and surrealism (where you don't know where one aspect of his sensibility begins and the other ends). Unlike Kubrick, he never went around with "Genius" emblazed across his every portentious film frame, and unlike Speilberg he never was comfortable making squarely 'good' tastefully executed films. As a result he's probably the most interesting, fascinating and maddening of the 70's film school, although also the most divisive.
I love the shot where you see the killer looking at Angie through the door before she gets in the elevator, but I almost wish it wasn't there because it kinda spoils the shock. It would have been much more frightening if you didn't KNOW someone was following Angie and then suddenly she gets killed.
Just noticed something! Right in the middle of Dickinson's character getting slashed, Nancy Allen says something about Dovo. Dovo is the name of a old-fashioned straight razor company, who makes the same kind of razors that Dickinson is being slashed with! Another amazing "subtlety" from DePalma! :)
This film would have been a much lesser effort if not for the incredible performance of the wonderful Angie Dickinson. She makes this film work.
Dressed to Kill rocks. One of my favourite DePalma films
And it's also one of my favourites all genres and times combined!
She's such a good actress
Angie Dickinson's Best Work in film.
4:04 - 4:58 one of the best scenes ever directed
For me, I might not say best, but one of the best techniques. Brian DePalma gave us that signature slow moving, tension filled scene set in one room, with a few characters, no dialogue, close up shots, and old school crime suspense music, and he made it look really good. Brian DePalma is a terrific movie director.
indeed i said "one of the best", not "the best"
Did they not use actual slow motion back then? Was it not yet a thing or what??
I distinctly remember when this movie came out, the Dallas Morning News gave it 4 stars out of 4!
Wow, I never heard of any other critic giving the movie that high of a rating before!
I soo freaking agree with ya 110%! I'm a 42 year old 6ft. 300lb.big black-man and I tell ya, "Burnt Offerings", "Carrie", "Raising Cain" and this movie gives me chills and freaks me tha fuck out, everytime!!!
totally agreed, Angie was 'cast against type' for this movie and it was the main thing that made it work
People keep saying Angie Dickinson was 'cast against type' but how exactly? She was a beautiful leading lady who played glamourous, charismatic women, this role is no different!
@@glamdolly30 Exactly!
I totally agree!
@@glamdolly30 Yeah, I don't get that either. If she was cast against type, I dunno........................SHE'D be the one playing a psycho killer with a razor!
@@davidl570 Exactly! Angie Dickinson as a crazed killer who murders trans women - that's a movie I would love to see!
Amazingly shot. This scene is just terrific. Pure cinema. Alfred is gone but we got Brian. Let's hope some smart producer will give him what he needs to make films.
De Palma is magic!
White suit that Angie struggled to get jacket on only adds to the suspense. Blood is quite restrained on that white suit (unlike many newer movies)
Happy that I saw this movie- when it was NEW, in the theater in 1980 . It was a nice surprise . For some reason, I thought it was going to be about fashion models being killed off ; one by one.
Well, there was a movie that came out the following year with that plot---Looker.
@@davidl570
Exactly!
And LOOKER was directed by Michael Crichton.
@@Jeckxdeel Yep, that's right! Really good movie.
@zolluuu As you can see, the elavator moves very slowly. When she was at the 7th floor ready to go into the elevator, you can tell that from the killer's point of view, the killer was at the nearby staircase looking at her through the window on the door. Then, the killer would have probably quiclky run down the stairs to the ground level. However, when the killer still sees her staying in the elevator not coming out, then he would have run back to the 7th floor assuming that she would return.
when movies were great
Totally agree!
True...
This owes so much to psycho
AD really left the comfort zone for this roll.
I hope in real life women don't fall down when running away, or whine and cry when someone is trying to kill them. If your being attacked at least try to fight. What do you have to lose, except your life!
Exactly! I don't think women do behave as they are depicted in movies, passive, sobbing, screaming etc. Women are tough and generally fight for their lives.
Angie feels dirty about finding out the guy she slept with has Stds. Lil girl in elevator staring at her makes angie feel Dirty of what she did lil Girl is innocense
Gonorrhea and syphilis at the same time that was pretty serious back then and 12 women he have to contact
@@sitdowndogbreath 😀
I've also felt the little girl was a personification of her guilt for cheating on her husband. DePalma was good at using symbolism from time to time.
@@davidl570 Let's just Say Angie was a woman in Heat🔥in this Movie. Geez she also tried to seduce her Doctor then he takes her out in the worst way Geez 😂
@@Manuel-zo3wg No argument here!
How did he know she was going to come back up to the 7th floor? How did he know she'd left her ring in the apartment?
A hunch.
@PalmerEldritch666 There is a scene in the original film version where the killer was hiding in the stairs and barely missed getting into the elevator. That took away the suspense and removed so his appearance was more of a surprise.
Excellent question, zolluuu! I've often wondered that, myself! My theory is, he notices that she isn't wearing her wedding ring when she's leaving, but that she was wearing it when she arrived.
Read the script, probably.... ;)
The killer didn't know it at all.
He was in the 7th floor and just pushed the button (even if it's not shown) to call the elevator.
He certainly thought she just left the building.
He just wanted to leave the building, to keep on following her and to try killing her later.
The greatest murder scene ever (in combination with Hitchcock's shower scene).
Don't you think it's too similar to Hitchcock's classic shower scene? The ending, with her sliding down the wall, then reaching out her hand with her eyes glazed over is practically identical!
@@glamdolly30 no, quite different.
@@michaeltnewyorknights8413 It was clearly heavily influenced by the infamous Psycho shower scene, no two ways about it.
@@glamdolly30 influenced, yes. However it's still it's own film. The constant comparing to Psycho get's to be a tired cliche after awhile.
@@michaeltnewyorknights8413 Cliches become clichés because they are true! 'Dressed to Kill' hasn't held up as a great piece of art, in the same way 'Psycho' has.
'DTK' has some merits, which you would expect with an accomplished director and stellar cast, and it's still entertaining enough. But it hasn't stood the test of time - and that's the ultimate test.
'DTK' seems dated compared to 'Psycho', made 20 years earlier. Forget 'Psycho', 'DTK' compares poorly with many of its big screen predecessors in the thriller genre. I guess that's why it is hardly referenced today (and never by its star Michael Caine, who lists umpteen other movies he's starred in, ahead of this one).
The transgender narrative on which the plot hinges is weak. In 1980, audiences swallowed the psychobabble around the killer's motive. But today we know better. And de Palma cheated the audience by using a female body double to play Michael Caine in the 'Bobbi' scenes. We know why he did that - he played it safe because he didn't want to risk people recognising Caine, and blowing the movie's shock ending.
But I think it would be a classier movie if he had been braver and used Caine, disguising his identity with some clever directing and editing. The audience gets a few full, head-on looks at 'Bobbi's' face, which are quick but sufficient to see it is NOT Michael Caine or indeed a man! That guarantees our shock on learning it was him all along, but it's a cheap trick.
I was a teen when this movie came out and watched it on home video (when videos were new - showing my age here!) I recall feeling annoyed on freeze-framing 'Bobbi's' face to see it was a woman, and definitely not Caine. I felt conned, and I think we all were!
I had nightmares watching this movie!! Great scene!!
The dream sequence (the final scene) is what gave me nightmares!
I like the girl starring at her. As if she is another call girl or a stranger in the building.
It creates more distraction and tension. Awesome.
This one my favorite movies
Excellent choice!
One of my favorites too!
The girl calling for help is so beautiful
Yes, quite lovely!
Watch closely...she feels her fingers on her left hand and doesnt feel the ring, thats what gets her to think about it. How the killer knew she was coming back up to the 7th floor though, that I dont know.
Right, I wonder the same.
The killer waited for her behind the door leading to the fire stairs. So, he was already on the 7th floor and then he pushed the button to the right of the elevator's door to call it before Angie Dickinson pushed the button inside the elevator to go back to the 7th floor.
@@macflow14 Take a look to my comment below.
I THINK YRE POERTY IS A A CUT OF SOMETHING TALK TO BEN WHO...BEN IS HE COMING UP...TO THE 3RD NOT SECVENTH FL;OOR
The film originally obtained an X-rating due to the elevator scene (and others); they had to edit it. Can you imagine it lasting longer?!
No way
True but this footage is from the X or Unrated version. The R version edits out the cheek and throat slashing.
If this was a funny satire comic version, Biff Tannen pulls out his pepper spray spraying Razor Psycho in the face, then runs out the elevator dialing 911.
Dang, even the music in the last 45 seconds sounds like right out of "Psycho".
BEST ALL TIME MOVIE SCENE EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!
And one of the best thrillers/crime movies all times combined.
And also one of the best movies all genres/times combined.
I just turned eight for which I saw this movie on my birthday. What a way to celebrate my birthday. This is a one hell of a good movie though. Then a few days later, this guy my sister was seeing want to talk to me on the phone. Saying that I saw a nasty movie which was Dressed to Kill because of nude scene
@permateen Not my doing. Nor the advertising. It appears MGM is able to get UA-cam to implement these changes to my upload.
@Tornaventofilms Brian idolizes Hitchcock and actually adds a lot of "Hitchcockian" elements to his films. So in essence, Hitchcock does live on through Brian, in a way.
Nicely said. Hitch does indeed live on in many ways thanks to De Palma...long before people discussed it online.
Just one question: How does the killer know she'll be coming back up in the elevator? The only thing I can figure out is that he sees she isn't wearing her wedding ring when she leaves, but she was wearing it when she arrived. He figures she'll be coming back for it.
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She (he) followed her. He knew what she'd been doing all along.
Michael Caine didnt even play a part in this scene, it was a Body Double
True that.
It was the same actress who later played the female cop who shoots Michael Caine through the window when he is in drag. The actress was cast because she's the same height as Michael Caine - she must be a big girl!
Exactly. The body double wears a plastic fake nose that's exactly the same than Michael Caine's nose. Michael Caine plays only the scene as "Bobbi" when he tries to kill Nancy Allen in his office. You can see that Susanna Clemm (the body double) has not the same mouth as Michael Caine's. She has more fleshy lips.
Ah Ying Yang Twins - that's another time period.
How do I find the movie ?
Still unable to locate it
Thanks. Rita...
I actually bought my copy I think from Amazon?. I have had my copy for a long time.
I always wanted to know how did the killer know she was coming back up to the room.
I don't think she knew that Kate was going back up.
Exactly - because if Kate had not forgotten her engagement ring (so had to return to the room), she would have got right out of the elevator and exited the building after the mother and child.
YEAH man is that right then wait for how long at 7 to seven not sex/////six
not 9
Little girl in the elevator @ 1:25: You are about to be killed.
Great movie and the book was scarier..
The screenplay is not adapted from a book.
It's an original screenplay.
The book is adapated from the original screenplay.
And the book was released after the release of the movie.
BRIAN DE PALMA VOCE SÓ FAZ FILMAÇO
I Sure As Hell Wouldn't Have Picked Up The Murder Weapon Used By The Killer If I Had Been Liz Blake(Nancy Allen) Still Depalma Directed A Classic Awesome Murder Scene. I Would Love To Own This Movie On DVD.
This is the original！
Amazing how many people think Bobbi is "kicking the crap" out of Kate at the end of this sequence. Its the rubber at the centre of the elevator door bouncing back and forth.
The part where the psycho is spying on Angie waiting for the elevator scared the CRAP out of me as a kid!
What?! You shouldn't have watched this film this was for grown ups only, hope you learned your lesson
@@Curi0u50ne Too late! Oh well.
So can I.
Why are Angie and the girl staring at each other?
Let That Be A Lesson Ladies & Gentleman,By Picking Up The Murder Weapon, You're Basically Leaving Your Fingerprints On It Incriminating Yourself.
Angie is wearing all white...Was this after labor day?
Nope, shortly before Thanksgiving.
No it was during a white sale at Sears and kmart n walmart
Possibly... but even that would be a stretch...
she couldnt possibly have been kicking the crap out of Angie on the Ground floor street level, remember there was a security guard there...?
fake blood and fake razor but I can still feel every slash to her body!!!
check out Angies 1950's "halo" shampoo commercial.
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I know, I don't get that either.
Pure Hitchcock (yes, I know who made it).
Vertigo, Psycho, Strangers On A Train and Marnie.
My question is how did the slasher know she was in that building. Did he follow her to the museum, and then follow the taxi?
The killer didn't know she was getting up to the 7th floor again,but was waiting for the elevator
..because he was chasing her...... and was waiting for the elevator to come back up. Where else would he have caught it? .....had she gotten off... he would have missed her.....it makes sense....he didn't know she would be coming back up...he was lucky....she wasn't.
@@rickw1100 Exactly. You're absolutely right! And it's one of the best thrillers and movies all times combined!
you just have to hit the button once, god!
Desperate people hit it more than once. Also some elevator doors stall before they close.
I wonder what the significance of the little girl staring at her is.
It's obvious - the innocent child stares at her accusingly, it reminds us of Kate's guilt at having extra marital sex.
You are quite wrong. Perhaps you should research it a bit more. The overwhelming majority of film critics, producers, directors, as well as fans of suspense and mystery films both strongly praise and recommend this film as an example of exemplary film making. Its' considered one of the best suspense films of the 80s. Sorry 'bout that.
Totally agree! And it's so far better than the overrated SILENCE OF THE LAMBS!
@@Jeckxdeel Apples and oranges.
@@davidl570 Of course, there are differences between the 2 films.
DRESSED TO KILL gives off a certain eroticism. Which is not the case with THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS.
But DRESSED TO KILL and THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS belong to the thriller/crime movie genre.
There is even a dvd edition with the 2 films together in French-speaking countries.
But I don't like THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS at all.
THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is one of the most overrated movies all times combined in my opinion.
THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is slow moving, very talkative and quite boring.
On the other side, DRESSED TO KILL is one of my favorites all genres and times combined.
@@Jeckxdeel Eh, I disagree that it's boring--it's almost like a slow burn thriller, which I'll take in a heartbeat over all of those dumb jump-scare thrillers. But to each their own.
@@davidl570 It's totally your right to disagree with me.
But I don't like THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS at all though and it's totally my right too.
And DRESSED TO KILL is definitely not a dumb jump-scare thriller.
And THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is definitely not smarter but just more pompous, pretentious and boring than many other thrillers/crime movies!
THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS has pacing issues and feels longer than it is.
Some talkative scenes are endless and the countless close-ups on the face of the characters are very painful and boring in the long run.
DRESSED TO KILL and many other older thrillers/crime movies than THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS are way far better in my opinion.
Just like some other thrillers/crime movies that even date from the same time and also after 1991 are way far better than THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS.
This is my last word!
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エンプレスみたいなシーン
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悪のスタンドに、濡れ衣を着せられる
ジョセフに似てるっ！
The murder is far too similar in choreography to the Psycho shower scene - when the victim slides down the wall at the end, then outstretches her arm as if asking for help, silent with glazed eyes - its almost identical! I think De Palma had a cheek actually! And why are elevators so often the scene of movie murders/attacks? Basic Instinct, Mona Lisa, Fatal Attraction...
In FATAL ATTRACTION, it's not an attack in the elevator but a sex scene!
Read up on De Palma. Hitchcock was his messiah. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he did here. An unforgettable scene in a fantastic film. And nothing nasty happened in an elevator in Fatal Attraction. That's where they did "the nasty".
why does the killer let go the razor?
Only to confuse Nancy Allen!
Is the little girl Fiona Apple?
Why I'm afraid of straight razors.
Why was that little girl staring at her?
She knew what was going to happen in just a few minutes.
Stephanie from LazyTown jugement before punishement
Walter Van der Wahl "Redrum, redrum, REDRUM, REDRUM"
Yes. Yes. Yes. She was doomed.
She knew right off the bat that Kate was guilty.
question how the killer could knew she is coming back in the 7 floor because she waiting for her its impossible she could knew she is coming back after she is coming down
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@oldcomforter Most film critics disagree with you. Do a little research.
No, Brian made the right choice casting Angie over Kim Novak.
Kim looked much older in "Mirror Cracked" than Angie looks here.
I've no doubt Brian DePalma made the absolute right decision casting Angie in this movie. She's so memorable in this role, people still talk about it decades later.
Trauma
I compare this movie to Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho. The murderer with the razor is a great Anthony Perkins version.
surely someone would have sprung Bobby kicking the crap out of Kate/Angie in the basement? I mean she was making a hell of a racket....AND why does Liz Blake / Nancy Allen run out into the basement carpark instead of going out of the building on the ground floor Street level?
Kicking the crap out of Kate? That was the centre of the elevator door bouncing back and forth. Her arm was obviously stuck there, and what makes you think Liz ran into the basement carpark? That was the lobby exited through.
@@michael65
Exactly!
I disagree. The art museum seduction and the flash backs after were truly great cinema.
What was the maid screaming for at the end? She couldnt have possibly seen what was in the elevator and also couldnt have heard anything either. Still a great movie but a dumb portion.
Because she saw Nancy Allen with a razor in her hand!
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サイコのような・トラウマシーン
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ロボコップの、女優さんが出てるぞ
Brian Depalna with the strings in every scene. Too much
〖object〗 Guilt, innocent child, ring, misplaced, return, 【murder】 Weapons, light, mirrors, gaze, (sight) The elevator door getting stuck coincides with your heart rate.
〖オブジェクト〗
後ろめたさ、純真幼子、指輪、置き忘れ、戻る、
【殺人】
凶器、光、鏡、
視線、(目撃)
エレベーター扉の引っ掛かりが心拍数と重なる
And when DePalma can't copy more Hitchcock then he remembers Dario Argento...
i remember a review for Dressed to Kill, the critic said:"does this guy have one original idea in his head?"