Very interesting history lesson. Who could imagine way back then, that 170 years after the tragic loss of life that their names would be uttered and kept alive via modern technology. The Wests and Goulds may have lived in relative obscurity, but your video, in a way, has made them immortal for all time. Anyone, anywhere in the world can reach back in time to learn about that ill-fated hamlet in the Pennsylvania woods.
There is an old burial site in my area by a really old abandoned limestone mine in west Winfield, pa During the influenza epidemic of 1917.. mostly workers of the mines, there were so many deaths they buried them all in mass grave. It’s a historic landmark and has a sign explaining all of this.
Thank you for You're ghostly spirit story's I've always loved looking at older vintage graveyard's and Beautiful little girl ghostly spirit story' we're so Truly cool Thanks so very much!
A surviving Gould daughter said that the dam was built on sand & her father had warned the builder it would be dangerous - he built it anyway. The father was a logger & dam builder himself. When the father was away logging - workers came & told the mother to get to higher ground because the unrelenting rain could cause the dam to break. She decided NOT to go because he husband wasnt there to agree with the men. That night the place was destroyed & Lizzie died. The baby brothed died later due to exposure from the freezing water that hit them all that night. The greedy builder of the dam fled the area for fear of death. Very sad story indeed.
Enjoy your videos. Unless I missed it, you should go to Peddlers Grave outside of Mahanoy City. First documented murder in Schuylkill County. Strong history behind the story.
This is the Hickory Run Cemetery near Albrightsville, Pennsylvania . You can find it on findagrave.com . Everyone with a tombstone is listed in this cemetery. Not all of the burials are flood victims. There are 32 burials. I have been listing cemeteries in Gaston and Lincoln counties, NC for 36 years and have not seen a ghost yet. Perhaps they are all in Pennsylvania...
Most spirits congregate where there are crowds of people. Concerts sporting events. Don't believe me. Bring a ouija board to the back of a movie theatre and open the portal and watch dozens of spirits come thru and reek havoc. Electricity goes haywire spirits enter people and cause grandal seizures. Fun stuff
Wow! By the end of the video, you could hear like a whispering murmur or call! It didnt sound like no one was around you at that moment! Did you heard it?
I don't believe you could be living in a better place to do all your exploring. I'm jealous because here in East Texas there's so few days when one would want to be wandering about the woods, and certainly no places with so many interesting abandoned places. I listen to Solar Fields while watching your videos. Seems to fit really well.
Where are the Catholic Priests in Pennsylvania? A Mass should be said often in that place for their souls including prayers for the faithfully departed. Contact the Archdiocese please.
I remember years ago, my husband and I was driving around, it was getting late so we decided to drive into a side road and camp (you can camp anywhere for 3days here). It was completely dark as we set up our tent, we fell asleep immediately. Next morning we woke up to birds singing, I went out and guess what I saw! Gravestones everywhere. We had put our tent on top of old graves and by pure luck not stumbled on any of the stones. I said my humble excuses to the dead, asked them to forgive us and thanked them for a peaceful sleep. Old graves are fascinating, especially if you have brought a smart phone too. When I see so many died at the same time or within years I can google and find out what happened. Maybe there was famine, or the Black Plague or a hard winter or a war I didn’t know of. It tells us about times where people didn’t live for long, where many died in child birth and many children and babies died to common diseases. My interest for finding out more about my ancestors cane from looking at grave stones. I’ve dedicated years to it. Do you know the series Vikings? That are my direct ancestors. Thank you for the video!
My 2nd G.Grandpa lost two wives. The 2nd wife is my 2nd G.Grandma. His first wife definitely passed from childbirth coz the baby lived 7 months. Mine was aged 30 and there's two male graves with same name one of which was hers or both were, Idk. My 2nd G.Grandpa never remarried. It was rough.
I collect pins, badges and emblems of various clubs and orders. I have a pin from this one as my Grandpa belonged. I enjoy my unusual hobby. Unfortunately, many of the clubs and orders have since gone by the way side. Less and less people are joining clubs and volunteering. People have changed the way they spend their free time. To be honest, I think we have less free time now than we did over 150 years ago.
The Patriotic Order Sons of America was organized December 10, 1847 to preserve the Public School System, The Constitution of the United States, and our American way of life. It was incorporated by an Act of the Pennsylvania State Legislature, February 27, 1867. He belonged to camp 341 The Patriotic Order Sons of America is an American patriotic fraternal society that traces its origins to the anti-alien riots of the 1840s. Found in 1847 in Philadelphia,[1] the P.O.S. of A. once had "camps" or chapters in 20 states. At its peak, there were more than 600 camps nationwide. Today, the society maintains a presence only in Pennsylvania where it has 14 camps. The national headquarters are in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Order_Sons_of_America www.nationalposofa.org/
Do you travel around the country or stay local? One you may be interested in is Peshtigo, Wisconsin. It was the scene of a horrific fire in 1877. An estimated 1,500-2,500 people are buried here in a mass grave. It has been forgotten about in history because it was overshadowed by another great fire that same week-The Chicago Fire.
It's sad, but a lot of those people who died so young back in the 1800's, they died from sicknesses like, yellow fever, small pox, pneumonia, scarlet fever, plagues, infections, the flu, etc. They didn't have vaccines for those types of things, so many died. 😕
They don’t have vaccines for those things except a very small percentage who get small pox (like military) and the flu (that’s a complete joke.. it’s always the wrong strand lol.) proper hygiene, clean water and modern medicine (antibiotics, iv’s etc) is really what changed for these illnesses, there are no vaccines for the other illnesses you mentioned.
Lot of youth died from infections, bad water, food, etc. in those times. They didn’t understand bacteria yet. Lot of surgeons would wear the same clothes through multiple surgeries without an apron or anything. Death rates for babies went way down after people started using better hygiene and disinfectants were used.
There is a Vaccine for Yellow Fever, pneumonia, and small pox which they irradicated. As I was born in 73 & dont have the scar There so many vaccines for what killed people then. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Consumption, Polio
I love old cemeteries and enjoyed this video. I noticed a lot of the stones had red flowers by them and wondered who would put them there. Love the history too.
Sometimes there are people who volunteer their time to upkeep old gravestones and cemeteries, usually you hear them doing it for veteran graves but God Bless them!
Yes .grave stones.ARE TIME MARKERS .WHEN IT WAS THEIR TURN TO BE HERE. IVE KNOW A LITTLE GIRL.IN OHIO .LINDA EKIE.DIED FROM LEKIMIA .AGE 8 18X8..HER SPIRIT VISITED OUR HOMESTEAD .FROM 1947 TILL I LEFT HOME IN 1966..MOM SAID. SHE NEVER CAME BACK AFTER I WDNT INTO ARMY
Not an unusual thing, and part of why people had large numbers of kids, back in the old days. Before there were vaccines and antibiotics and antiseptic surgery, it was not unusual for children to die. Epidemics were especially rough on them - my wife just did some research into her family, and one of her ancestors lost five children within a year to disease back in the 1800's. FUN FACT: Charles Darwin lost his favorite child to disease, and that is what prompted him to come up with his theory of evolution: he could not understand how a loving God could let his, Darwin's, child die (he had a rather large ego, so he took it as a personal affront), so he tried to 'write God out of the picture'.
I was born and raised in Nazareth. My buddies and I would run all over the same areas checking everything out. We used to call it "Time to cruise". Eastern PA is absolutely beautiful. You need to hit Gettysburg. Love the videos, makes me homesick. 611 through Easton down to Philly has some great stopping points. Wink wink
I live in the area and have been there. Yes, there's a ghost tale associated with Oct. 30 each year and it says you can hear the mother calling for her children. Last time we visited the cemetery there weren't just plastic flowers but many stuffed animals for the children, which were all dirty and messy. I stopped into the ranger office and asked them if anyone comes and cleans it up. They said they do that periodically. They don't want it vandalized and keep an eye on it as best they can, so it's not really abandoned as long as someone is caring for it. In addition, a few of the men buried there were killed by Indians back in the 1700s. One of those gravestones was lying against a tree as it had dislodged. They were going to fix it.
Sorry...meant to appreciate the gesture made by someone who came and left flowers at each grave..touching and I’m Sure appreciated by the families .they led such tragic lives losing so many children and their homes in one fell swoop...however do you Pick yourself up again after that ...losing so much and all that pain. Bless them all, and rip. 🌹🌹🌹
Such a sad time for Mr West to lose is whole family in such a short time. I love it that you read the tombstones. Who know the last time their name was said out loud.
Glad I came across your channel great video! My family is from Johnstown, I've heard a lot about the great flood they have had there too, I've been to the Inclined Plane and it looks out over the valley where the damn broke, it's really something to see plus in Grandview Cemetery the Mass Grave of Johnstowns Dead , for people unknown around 800 graves with a huge beautiful monument. So sad and tragic for both floods!
That was really interesting. Back in that era families were large but so was death. If children hadn't died families would have like 12 kids. Moms and Dad and siblings suffered a lot with loosing family members. Babies just days and a week or two old die. Too bad the headstones were so old they broke. It was very peaceful there even with the sound of traffic. Thank you.
Have to admit, when you were talking about Lizzie, I kept expecting a young girl to peek around from behind the huge tree at your back..... Very interesting video; thank you!
Good morning. I am just now watching this video. I do appreciate and enjoy your videos! My ancestors / family settled in Pennsylvania. Your videos give me a sense of connection with those long ago ancestors. I remember my Mother talking about the Johnstown Flood. You videos make history come alive.
I heard what may have been a whisper but he had alot of background noise from the highway close by. But I'm a paranormal fan and I could agree with your assumption👍👍👍
@Warren Shiflett after listening to it again since you posted I did hear voices twice. The first one I heard as someone pointed out was two kids saying "get OUT" and the second one came at 14:46. Great observations people.
I loved spending time in cemeteries when I was growing up. I grew up in Nescopeck pa. There is a small cemetery up on the hill if you turn on broad street off of route 93. And when you get to the rifle range you turn left. And you will see it on the right. Would love for you to make a video on that one. It's definitely a haunted cemetery. It's called Forrest lawn cemetery.
Children weren't more fragile than they are now but medicine is more available. There were many more children back then too, so it just seems they were more fragile.
The Shades of death is an incredible story that bears repeating. Also, I know a really, really interesting grave site in Clearfield County that you might be interested in, the woman is buried near the top of a hill, high enough to be in the ancient pine trees. Buried alone as far as you can tell with a perfect sandstone tombstone and she is entombed in stone. We think she was Native American, wife of Peter Young who was a fur trader and sold spirits to those that could afford it. It is one of the most peaceful places to visit. There are graveyards on both sides of the hill that she could have been buried in but no, she is in a much better, safer place.
Hi Cliff, great find! Ya need to be there in the dark cam light on phone turned on for video and you will see stuff like orbs...I see a lot in my room at night whilke watching tv I will do film clips and see orbs go zooming past some times they are really slow...I doesn't scare me. I think of them as deceased family members visiting me. :)
One if my favorite spots in Hickory Run. Very peaceful as sad as it is. The POS of A was a fraternity associated with the know nothing political party. Had an anti-catholic and nativist bent and also pro labor and free education platform at the time.
I heard the kids @1400 & 1445 also. It sounded like girls doing a chant game. Like where u clap ur hands together? I love visiting old/pioneer Cemetaries. Williamsburg, Va, was the most disturbing. So many solders killed in battle, ingraving on headstones were worn off, name obscured, their names will never be mentioned. Out here in Wa, there's pioneer cemeteries. If u see tall, tower-like headstones, my Aunt called them 'the little lambs'. They are the babies lost, back in the 1800s. So sad.
You totally inspired me to go out and find this cemetery since it's sort of close by. Also, your videos are just awesome and full of so much information.
Hi, such a sad loss of life when your life is taken from you so young. I love listening to the history, Pennsylvania is a very interesting, historical state and a very beautiful one too. Thank you for sharing. x
Although PA has its share of history sprinkled from the revolutionary war to civil war, I think I'd rather live in a southern state where you have old plantations, more civil war skirmishes and battles on every street corner it seems
Seems peaceful except for the noise. Most spirits are seen at night. Sad to think a child wandering around. She might be looking for her family. Have to admit me and 2 of my sisters went to a cemetery it was pitch black dark. Didn't see nothing. Frankly I thought my sister was crazy to go looking for a grave at night, no flashlight. In way wished shed seen who she was looking for. I mean how weird in dark no flashlight. She Didnt tell us she was going. I was not about get out car too dark could fell. Got hurt. She's a odd ball. Its not I was afraid just pitch black couldn't see nothing. I knew a guy when he was too drunk to walk home would often spend the night in a cemetery. Asked if he ever saw a ghost or spirit. He said if he did he was too drunk to know it once he laid down was fast asleep. Um. Cool video. I've lived in 2 houses that was haunted. One I could not wait to move. I have second sight see spirits my baby sister saw same one I did. Told the owner he said maybe the guy lived there or it was a place he felt at home. Found out later it had been a drug house several young people died there one guy looked solid seem so real I followed him asked do u hear me he went into small room when I got there nothing. I told my sister who was living with me at the time she saw him early one morning came across her car she thought she was about her car jacked. Said he came on porch disagreed thought door. I believed her same guy. Only one that bothered me was young teenager who would come in my bedroom giggle and leave. I never sleep in the dark. The attic was active lot walking and moving around. Once had go up in attic saw no signs of animals felt cool breeze rush passed me on stairs. We got sage burned it I kid u not the walls screamed. Since owner was in reserves asked me stay another year as favor I did.. After that I had go. His sister moved in but she didn't stay long.. I'd hate think of children not at rest. Sad. Neita James. House still there some girl and children live there maybe she not sensitive like me and my sister. Second house I'd be alone would hear people talking upstairs. I slept downstairs. It used be barn family next door owned it but was no longer around. . I'd never stay there again for free.. Being sensitive visiting cemeteries don't bother me having spirits waking me up do. N.j.:-)
Enjoyed your video very much. I love looking at old headstones. Alot of history in that cemetery. Tragic that some family's lost almost everyone. It us a very peaceful place. Thanks for sharing.
enjoy the video Lizzie's not walking around. I did not feel any spiritual presence of anyone. When you do this and you're doing it Cemetery you need to read the names. Use a flashlight and hold it sideways against the stone. If I had my way I would put flowers on all the graves. God bless all those souls.. the baby who died later he may not only died with exposure but he may have got water in his lungs. God bless you.
Love your vidoes! I watch these videos and it's sad how earlier families suffered and sacrificed to build this Nation. And now look. Socialism? Erosion of the Constitution, flag burning, tearing down of monuments, and list goes on.... Shameful
Amei o vídeo. Apesar de não entender quase nada, porque sei pouco de inglês. Mas vale a pena assistir. Gosto muito de cemitérios e das histórias daquelas pessoas, acontecimentos históricos. Podemos aprender muito. Também muitos cemitérios são museus a céu aberto, como o cemitério da Consolação, em São Paulo. Muito bom. Parabéns!!!!!🇧🇷👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I really love your videos. Especially of this old graveyard. So much tragic history. I only wish these places weren't near so much traffic noise. I know you don't have any control over that.
Those loud obnoxious cycles are harley's and the idiots who ride them claim to be saving lives with the loud pipes. I have watched more harleys in accidents because they come up beside a car/truck and rev the engine, scaring the driver who yanks the wheel. I ride a harley, with stock pipes, and get lots of thumbs ups.
When we die we all rest. God Word tells us this. We do not wander nor visit loved ones. We rest. Than all, good and bad will be raised when Jesus returns. Those dead in Christ will rise first than later those not. We will then all be judged. But until that time we rest gently.
I know this scripture but it also says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Interpretation of the word can be mysterious. Regardless of if we exist in a similar way before we were born after our death is interpreted in many different ways.
No matter what Bible says, there is no coming back. JESUS BEEN COMING BACK FOR THE LAST 2000 YEARS. HE WILL NEVER COME BACK. HE IS DEAD LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. DO NOT LIE TO YOURSELF.
What about people who have memories of living past lives? Could it be deception from evil spirits, or is God giving them another chance to do right? The Bible is open for interpretation. What if when you die, your spirit cannot rest due to unfinished business here on earth or refusing to accept they are dead and cannot cross over? As far as visiting loved ones after you’re dead, wouldn’t that be up to God if He allows it? I mean God can change His mind and do what He wants.
Nice little peaceful cemetary even with the traffic in background. Very sad history especially with young children. Thanks very much for remembering them and sharing with us.
I greatly enjoy your ventures. I like you do your research prior to visiting your intended area. Sharing facts and not speculation adds validity to you videos.
Very interesting history lesson. Who could imagine way back then, that 170 years after the tragic loss of life that their names would be uttered and kept alive via modern technology. The Wests and Goulds may have lived in relative obscurity, but your video, in a way, has made them immortal for all time. Anyone, anywhere in the world can reach back in time to learn about that ill-fated hamlet in the Pennsylvania woods.
We will all be immortal in the Lords kingdom!
Bill Jobes Well said!
Can you imagine what they would think of this technology a century and a half later.
There is an old burial site in my area by a really old abandoned limestone mine in west Winfield, pa During the influenza epidemic of 1917.. mostly workers of the mines, there were so many deaths they buried them all in mass grave. It’s a historic landmark and has a sign explaining all of this.
Beyond the flood durring that era, there was Cholera, Consumption, Scarlett Fever, Rheumatic Fever, Small Pox, Pneumonia and the list goes on.
Cliff you take us to the most marvelous places, that is so beautiful there. The story is so sad.
Jp and allen need to go there for a ghost hunt.
Did anyone else hear a small girl singing around 14:00? Previously he mentioned a family there visiting the cemetery, too.
I heard voices or echoes of voices. Could have been highway traffic - not sure.
I heard it too and then I thought it was just me so I thought I'd see if anyone made any comments on it... Happy to know someone else heard it too.
I listened to it with earbuds and it sounds like an older lady saying help me.. help me
I heard it too
creepy
Yeah! Creepy noises for sure!
Nice place. I like the background history you provide before and during your visit.
Thank you for You're ghostly spirit story's I've always loved looking at older vintage graveyard's and Beautiful little girl ghostly spirit story' we're so Truly cool
Thanks so very much!
Fantastic, such a sad story. Really enjoyed that. Should have JP there with you
A surviving Gould daughter said that the dam was built on sand & her father had warned the builder it would be dangerous - he built it anyway. The father was a logger & dam builder himself. When the father was away logging - workers came & told the mother to get to higher ground because the unrelenting rain could cause the dam to break. She decided NOT to go because he husband wasnt there to agree with the men. That night the place was destroyed & Lizzie died. The baby brothed died later due to exposure from the freezing water that hit them all that night.
The greedy builder of the dam fled the area for fear of death. Very sad story indeed.
Curious. That massive tree behind you at Elizabeth is old enough to have been there while the flood occurred.
Nice park I'm right down the road beautiful falls
Great video... At 14:44 it almost sounds like a monotone whisper... Crazy
Evilla Dollyz. I heard it too. Couldnt quite make out what it said.
it's crazy!!
Enjoy your videos. Unless I missed it, you should go to Peddlers Grave outside of Mahanoy City. First documented murder in Schuylkill County. Strong history behind the story.
I have been there several times
So 😐 sad... may they continue to rest in peace...
thank you i really enjoyed this ..no ghosties 👻👻👻👻
This is the Hickory Run Cemetery near Albrightsville, Pennsylvania . You can find it on findagrave.com . Everyone with a tombstone is listed in this cemetery.
Not all of the burials are flood victims.
There are 32 burials.
I have been listing cemeteries in Gaston and Lincoln counties, NC for 36 years and have not seen a ghost yet. Perhaps they are all in Pennsylvania...
Most spirits congregate where there are crowds of people. Concerts sporting events. Don't believe me. Bring a ouija board to the back of a movie theatre and open the portal and watch dozens of spirits come thru and reek havoc. Electricity goes haywire spirits enter people and cause grandal seizures. Fun stuff
So interesting 😊
Sounds like the mountains running water
Very peaceful place for resting.
When the dam broke , did anyone ever discover the reason? Was it poorly constructed?
Very peaceful vibe here, yes always be respectful
Wow! By the end of the video, you could hear like a whispering murmur or call! It didnt sound like no one was around you at that moment! Did you heard it?
I don't believe you could be living in a better place to do all your exploring. I'm jealous because here in East Texas there's so few days when one would want to be wandering about the woods, and certainly no places with so many interesting abandoned places. I listen to Solar Fields while watching your videos. Seems to fit really well.
Where are the Catholic Priests in Pennsylvania? A Mass should be said often in that place for their souls including prayers for the faithfully departed. Contact the Archdiocese please.
Why? What would that do? I’m literally asking because I’m curious. Thanks.
We need to resurrect the name "Winfield".
14:08 listen closely that scared the crap out of me. I don't know if that is just someone else making that noise but its kinda freaky. 🤔😱
"P.O.S. of A" Means "Patriotic Sons of America"
I remember years ago, my husband and I was driving around, it was getting late so we decided to drive into a side road and camp (you can camp anywhere for 3days here). It was completely dark as we set up our tent, we fell asleep immediately. Next morning we woke up to birds singing, I went out and guess what I saw! Gravestones everywhere. We had put our tent on top of old graves and by pure luck not stumbled on any of the stones.
I said my humble excuses to the dead, asked them to forgive us and thanked them for a peaceful sleep.
Old graves are fascinating, especially if you have brought a smart phone too. When I see so many died at the same time or within years I can google and find out what happened. Maybe there was famine, or the Black Plague or a hard winter or a war I didn’t know of. It tells us about times where people didn’t live for long, where many died in child birth and many children and babies died to common diseases. My interest for finding out more about my ancestors cane from looking at grave stones. I’ve dedicated years to it. Do you know the series Vikings? That are my direct ancestors.
Thank you for the video!
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Thanks for sharing your story, I love reading other peoples experiences.
My 2nd G.Grandpa lost two wives. The 2nd wife is my 2nd G.Grandma. His first wife definitely passed from childbirth coz the baby lived 7 months. Mine was aged 30 and there's two male graves with same name one of which was hers or both were, Idk. My 2nd G.Grandpa never remarried. It was rough.
Patriotic Order Sons of America was founded in 1847. The guy was a patriot.
Yeah I thought Itmight be something like Daughters of the American Revolution ..thats cool ..thanks!!
Take care of yourself please be careful and be safe pandemic
Here it is. I was going to post it again. Maybe you could pin this to the top so it will stand out.
Love how someone went througg and placed artificial roses on all the graves I could see on the area
They may be gone but it's nice to see someone has remembered them with flowers and the flag 170 years later.
Patriotic Order Sons of America.
he died the year my house was built. hmmm.
One of the longest-lived patriotic fraternal groups in America.
@@bdh3949 That why they had a lot of children in those days
I collect pins, badges and emblems of various clubs and orders. I have a pin from this one as my Grandpa belonged. I enjoy my unusual hobby. Unfortunately, many of the clubs and orders have since gone by the way side. Less and less people are joining clubs and volunteering. People have changed the way they spend their free time. To be honest, I think we have less free time now than we did over 150 years ago.
The Patriotic Order Sons of America was organized December 10, 1847 to preserve the Public School System, The Constitution of the United States, and our American way of life. It was incorporated by an Act of the Pennsylvania State Legislature, February 27, 1867.
He belonged to camp 341
The Patriotic Order Sons of America is an American patriotic fraternal society that traces its origins to the anti-alien riots of the 1840s. Found in 1847 in Philadelphia,[1] the P.O.S. of A. once had "camps" or chapters in 20 states. At its peak, there were more than 600 camps nationwide. Today, the society maintains a presence only in Pennsylvania where it has 14 camps. The national headquarters are in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Order_Sons_of_America
www.nationalposofa.org/
WoW that poor man losing all those children and his wife! Very interesting history lesson indeed.
Keep safe out there :)
interesting and tragic story. I was pulling for the ghost to show up. lol
Ghosts aren't real
Me too and to the post below. Yes they are. I've encountered several.
@@thecoolchannel6431 incorrect.
Too may societies across space and time and separate by languages believe in ghosts for them to be fake.
Great park. That's where my wife and I were engaged. The boulder feild is awesome
Do you travel around the country or stay local? One you may be interested in is Peshtigo, Wisconsin. It was the scene of a horrific fire in 1877. An estimated 1,500-2,500 people are buried here in a mass grave. It has been forgotten about in history because it was overshadowed by another great fire that same week-The Chicago Fire.
It's sad, but a lot of those people who died so young back in the 1800's, they died from sicknesses like, yellow fever, small pox, pneumonia, scarlet fever, plagues, infections, the flu, etc. They didn't have vaccines for those types of things, so many died. 😕
They don’t have vaccines for those things except a very small percentage who get small pox (like military) and the flu (that’s a complete joke.. it’s always the wrong strand lol.) proper hygiene, clean water and modern medicine (antibiotics, iv’s etc) is really what changed for these illnesses, there are no vaccines for the other illnesses you mentioned.
Sad they died so young. 😢💔
They didn't have Penicillin & antibiotics. 💉💊
@@sirismart9541: It's sad. Penicillin was eventually discovered by accident in a laboratory. Too bad it wasn't sooner. 🙁
Lot of youth died from infections, bad water, food, etc. in those times. They didn’t understand bacteria yet. Lot of surgeons would wear the same clothes through multiple surgeries without an apron or anything. Death rates for babies went way down after people started using better hygiene and disinfectants were used.
There is a Vaccine for Yellow Fever, pneumonia, and small pox which they irradicated.
As I was born in 73 & dont have the scar
There so many vaccines for what killed people then.
Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Consumption, Polio
Interesting that someone seemed to have left flowers in some of the graves.
I love old cemeteries and enjoyed this video. I noticed a lot of the stones had red flowers by them and wondered who would put them there. Love the history too.
Descendants leave flowers
@@williamkeith8944 Just wondered why they all looked the same. I have never seen flowers left at gravesides that are that old.
Sometimes there are people who volunteer their time to upkeep old gravestones and cemeteries, usually you hear them doing it for veteran graves but God Bless them!
Poppies are red and the tribute to veterans
Yes .grave stones.ARE TIME MARKERS .WHEN IT WAS THEIR TURN TO BE HERE. IVE KNOW A LITTLE GIRL.IN OHIO .LINDA EKIE.DIED FROM LEKIMIA .AGE 8 18X8..HER SPIRIT VISITED OUR HOMESTEAD .FROM 1947 TILL I LEFT HOME IN 1966..MOM SAID. SHE NEVER CAME BACK AFTER I WDNT INTO ARMY
How sad, that graveyard has so many young children.
Fun fact.....a graveyard is adjacent to a church, cemeteries can be anywhere.
Not an unusual thing, and part of why people had large numbers of kids, back in the old days. Before there were vaccines and antibiotics and antiseptic surgery, it was not unusual for children to die. Epidemics were especially rough on them - my wife just did some research into her family, and one of her ancestors lost five children within a year to disease back in the 1800's. FUN FACT: Charles Darwin lost his favorite child to disease, and that is what prompted him to come up with his theory of evolution: he could not understand how a loving God could let his, Darwin's, child die (he had a rather large ego, so he took it as a personal affront), so he tried to 'write God out of the picture'.
Love that you know the history of the places you take us too. It is tragic and too many children died. They sure lived in a rougher time!!!
I was born and raised in Nazareth. My buddies and I would run all over the same areas checking everything out. We used to call it "Time to cruise". Eastern PA is absolutely beautiful. You need to hit Gettysburg. Love the videos, makes me homesick. 611 through Easton down to Philly has some great stopping points. Wink wink
you want history and graves?come to England ill show you graves well over 900 years old
I would love to!
...and perhaps your family history continues here in America!
I understand the ground in England is actually rising due to all the graves?
Wow, I have been camping several times at Hickory Run and never knew that was there. Thanks for the history.
Same here. Never knew about the graveyard
I live in the area and have been there. Yes, there's a ghost tale associated with Oct. 30 each year and it says you can hear the mother calling for her children. Last time we visited the cemetery there weren't just plastic flowers but many stuffed animals for the children, which were all dirty and messy. I stopped into the ranger office and asked them if anyone comes and cleans it up. They said they do that periodically. They don't want it vandalized and keep an eye on it as best they can, so it's not really abandoned as long as someone is caring for it. In addition, a few of the men buried there were killed by Indians back in the 1700s. One of those gravestones was lying against a tree as it had dislodged. They were going to fix it.
Sorry...meant to appreciate the gesture made by someone who came and left flowers at each grave..touching and I’m
Sure appreciated by the families .they led such tragic lives losing so many children and their homes in one fell swoop...however do you
Pick yourself up again after that ...losing so much and all that pain. Bless them all, and rip. 🌹🌹🌹
You should visit the Harrisburg Capital Building. Lots of living dead there!
😂😂😂 you know it!! From York
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Thank you for sharing the history behind the graves and cemetery. It's very interesting and I really enjoy it.
From outside the US, with many distant cousins in PA I found your video extremely interesting and educational. Thanks from OZ
Such a sad time for Mr West to lose is whole family in such a short time. I love it that you read the tombstones. Who know the last time their name was said out loud.
Glad I came across your channel great video! My family is from Johnstown, I've heard a lot about the great flood they have had there too, I've been to the Inclined Plane and it looks out over the valley where the damn broke, it's really something to see plus in Grandview Cemetery the Mass Grave of Johnstowns Dead , for people unknown around 800 graves with a huge beautiful monument. So sad and tragic for both floods!
That was really interesting. Back in that era families were large but so was death. If children hadn't died families would have like 12 kids. Moms and Dad and siblings suffered a lot with loosing family members. Babies just days and a week or two old die. Too bad the headstones were so old they broke. It was very peaceful there even with the sound of traffic. Thank you.
Have to admit, when you were talking about Lizzie, I kept expecting a young girl to peek around from behind the huge tree at your back..... Very interesting video; thank you!
Good morning. I am just now watching this video. I do appreciate and enjoy your videos! My ancestors / family settled in Pennsylvania. Your videos give me a sense of connection with those long ago ancestors. I remember my Mother talking about the Johnstown Flood. You videos make history come alive.
I might be wrong but, I swear I can hear a very "disturbing" noise at 14:46 like someone whispering something! 😳
I heard what may have been a whisper but he had alot of background noise from the highway close by. But I'm a paranormal fan and I could agree with your assumption👍👍👍
Me too!
@Warren Shiflett after listening to it again since you posted I did hear voices twice. The first one I heard as someone pointed out was two kids saying "get OUT" and the second one came at 14:46. Great observations people.
wow noisy traffic loved hearing the history of the cemetery sounds like the town was devastated by the flood thanks for taking me along
I loved spending time in cemeteries when I was growing up. I grew up in Nescopeck pa. There is a small cemetery up on the hill if you turn on broad street off of route 93. And when you get to the rifle range you turn left. And you will see it on the right. Would love for you to make a video on that one. It's definitely a haunted cemetery. It's called Forrest lawn cemetery.
You say" ice cream" all the ghost kids follow. lol
Interesting! I’ll have to check this place out some time since it’s close to me
Children were so much more fragile back then. So sad. I'm with you on the ghosts a big no for me
Children weren't more fragile than they are now but medicine is more available. There were many more children back then too, so it just seems they were more fragile.
The Shades of death is an incredible story that bears repeating. Also, I know a really, really interesting grave site in Clearfield County that you might be interested in, the woman is buried near the top of a hill, high enough to be in the ancient pine trees. Buried alone as far as you can tell with a perfect sandstone tombstone and she is entombed in stone. We think she was Native American, wife of Peter Young who was a fur trader and sold spirits to those that could afford it. It is one of the most peaceful places to visit. There are graveyards on both sides of the hill that she could have been buried in but no, she is in a much better, safer place.
Hi Cliff, great find! Ya need to be there in the dark cam light on phone turned on for video and you will see stuff like orbs...I see a lot in my room at night whilke watching tv I will do film clips and see orbs go zooming past some times they are really slow...I doesn't scare me. I think of them as deceased family members visiting me. :)
One if my favorite spots in Hickory Run. Very peaceful as sad as it is.
The POS of A was a fraternity associated with the know nothing political party. Had an anti-catholic and nativist bent and also pro labor and free education platform at the time.
I heard the kids @1400 & 1445 also. It sounded like girls doing a chant game. Like where u clap ur hands together?
I love visiting old/pioneer Cemetaries. Williamsburg, Va, was the most disturbing. So many solders killed in battle, ingraving on headstones were worn off, name obscured, their names will never be mentioned.
Out here in Wa, there's pioneer cemeteries. If u see tall, tower-like headstones, my Aunt called them 'the little lambs'. They are the babies lost, back in the 1800s. So sad.
You totally inspired me to go out and find this cemetery since it's sort of close by. Also, your videos are just awesome and full of so much information.
Hi, such a sad loss of life when your life is taken from you so young. I love listening to the history, Pennsylvania is a very interesting, historical state and a very beautiful one too. Thank you for sharing. x
Pennsylvania is indeed rich in American history. Civil War battles and families devastated. That was a time of brave people!
Although PA has its share of history sprinkled from the revolutionary war to civil war, I think I'd rather live in a southern state where you have old plantations, more civil war skirmishes and battles on every street corner it seems
I love Pennsylvania. I was born and raised there. I moved to Texas 7 years ago. I miss it 💔
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Great adventure Cliff!!! I enjoyed this video!!! Walking in cemeteries looking at the head stones is very interesting!!! Thank you for sharing!!!
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I have always been fascinated by cemeteries. I used to volunteer to clean them up as a kid.
I love old graveyards i like walking in them they are peaceful and my daughter and I try to find their history too
Seems peaceful except for the noise. Most spirits are seen at night. Sad to think a child wandering around. She might be looking for her family. Have to admit me and 2 of my sisters went to a cemetery it was pitch black dark. Didn't see nothing. Frankly I thought my sister was crazy to go looking for a grave at night, no flashlight. In way wished shed seen who she was looking for. I mean how weird in dark no flashlight. She Didnt tell us she was going. I was not about get out car too dark could fell. Got hurt. She's a odd ball. Its not I was afraid just pitch black couldn't see nothing. I knew a guy when he was too drunk to walk home would often spend the night in a cemetery. Asked if he ever saw a ghost or spirit. He said if he did he was too drunk to know it once he laid down was fast asleep. Um. Cool video. I've lived in 2 houses that was haunted. One I could not wait to move. I have second sight see spirits my baby sister saw same one I did. Told the owner he said maybe the guy lived there or it was a place he felt at home. Found out later it had been a drug house several young people died there one guy looked solid seem so real I followed him asked do u hear me he went into small room when I got there nothing. I told my sister who was living with me at the time she saw him early one morning came across her car she thought she was about her car jacked. Said he came on porch disagreed thought door. I believed her same guy. Only one that bothered me was young teenager who would come in my bedroom giggle and leave. I never sleep in the dark. The attic was active lot walking and moving around. Once had go up in attic saw no signs of animals felt cool breeze rush passed me on stairs. We got sage burned it I kid u not the walls screamed. Since owner was in reserves asked me stay another year as favor I did.. After that I had go. His sister moved in but she didn't stay long.. I'd hate think of children not at rest. Sad. Neita James. House still there some girl and children live there maybe she not sensitive like me and my sister. Second house I'd be alone would hear people talking upstairs. I slept downstairs. It used be barn family next door owned it but was no longer around. . I'd never stay there again for free.. Being sensitive visiting cemeteries don't bother me having spirits waking me up do. N.j.:-)
Enjoyed your video very much. I love looking at old headstones. Alot of history in that cemetery. Tragic that some family's lost almost everyone. It us a very peaceful place. Thanks for sharing.
enjoy the video Lizzie's not walking around. I did not feel any spiritual presence of anyone. When you do this and you're doing it Cemetery you need to read the names. Use a flashlight and hold it sideways against the stone. If I had my way I would put flowers on all the graves. God bless all those souls.. the baby who died later he may not only died with exposure but he may have got water in his lungs. God bless you.
Lizzy corrects you @ 15:13 by saying "I'm here!"
The Pool Hausband. Lost First a Baby and later his wife and Four More children
The water would have been very cold on October 30th....and middle of the night?
Love your vidoes!
I watch these videos and it's sad how earlier families suffered and sacrificed to build this Nation. And now look. Socialism? Erosion of the Constitution, flag burning, tearing down of monuments, and list goes on....
Shameful
Hickory run , we live down the block , amazing place
I love old cemeteries but they are so sad. I would rather be there also other than wandering around elsewhere. Thank You for the video!!
I found one more copper mine on buttermilk fallss in turtel beach ny state park 😉
Love ❤️ history. Thank you 😊 Cemeteries are filled with so much history.
Amei o vídeo. Apesar de não entender quase nada, porque sei pouco de inglês. Mas vale a pena assistir. Gosto muito de cemitérios e das histórias daquelas pessoas, acontecimentos históricos. Podemos aprender muito. Também muitos cemitérios são museus a céu aberto, como o cemitério da Consolação, em São Paulo. Muito bom. Parabéns!!!!!🇧🇷👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Appreciate your hard work
Nice peaceful cemetery. Sad, but interesting!
Thank you for your time, intellect, and for sharing with everyone. 👍
I really love your videos. Especially of this old graveyard. So much tragic history. I only wish these places weren't near so much traffic noise. I know you don't have any control over that.
dude calm down its just traffic!
Those loud obnoxious cycles are harley's and the idiots who ride them claim to be saving lives with the loud pipes. I have watched more harleys in accidents because they come up beside a car/truck and rev the engine, scaring the driver who yanks the wheel. I ride a harley, with stock pipes, and get lots of thumbs ups.
Thanks for that, Frances. I fiercely despise overly loud bikes too
I ride.
People with those loud pipes, you are harshing my mellow. Stop it!
Great video Cliff...always love the great History lesson!!! Do you ever go on a Ghost Hunt with JP? 😬
Haven't done that
@@thewanderingwoodsman7227 did you get any evps from that cemetary?
Cool, I love exploring old cemeteries
Same!
7:12 I wouldn’t blame the wife (Elizabeth for still being there since she lost all of her children. 😥
When we die we all rest. God Word tells us this. We do not wander nor visit loved ones. We rest. Than all, good and bad will be raised when Jesus returns. Those dead in Christ will rise first than later those not. We will then all be judged. But until that time we rest gently.
I cannot bear it. Such a long time to see our loved ones again. Yes though....I read that in the Bible also. 🥀Rest in peace to my loved ones
I know this scripture but it also says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Interpretation of the word can be mysterious. Regardless of if we exist in a similar way before we were born after our death is interpreted in many different ways.
No matter what Bible says, there is no coming back. JESUS BEEN COMING BACK FOR THE LAST 2000 YEARS. HE WILL NEVER COME BACK. HE IS DEAD LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. DO NOT LIE TO YOURSELF.
What about people who have memories of living past lives? Could it be deception from evil spirits, or is God giving them another chance to do right? The Bible is open for interpretation. What if when you die, your spirit cannot rest due to unfinished business here on earth or refusing to accept they are dead and cannot cross over? As far as visiting loved ones after you’re dead, wouldn’t that be up to God if He allows it? I mean God can change His mind and do what He wants.
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Nice little peaceful cemetary even with the traffic in background. Very sad history especially with young children. Thanks very much for remembering them and sharing with us.
I catch myself saying, well, I'm yapping. Thanks for the phrase.
I greatly enjoy your ventures. I like you do your research prior to visiting your intended area. Sharing facts and not speculation adds validity to you videos.
Who put all of the red flowers at the graves???
Very interesting, old grave yards are cool.
Good Blog, I appreciate the background info on the West Family. Thanks for taking the time and caring.
Enjoying your videos :) the traffic sounds like flood waters!
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