The Second Korean War: A Forgotten Conflict 1966 - 1969
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The story of the forgotten 'Second Korean War', that occurred along the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) between North and South Korea between 1966-69, which resulted in many US casualties in sometimes intense engagements with communist infiltrators.
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“Most people are familiar with the Korean War”
Mark, you’re a generous man.
if the korean war is the forgotten war, the dmz conflict is the forgotten-forgotten war lol
look at the dates 1966 to 1969 not the 1950 to 1953 war
Only those who remember it call it the Forgotten War ironically
Kenny the G mine too. He never really said anything about it and I think his service records were destroyed in the fire
No kidding ... I don't know anyone under 30 whose heard of it ... except soldiers and my own kids.
Mark Felton should honestly just replace the History Channel and everyone would be happy
God Bless Your Perfection
@Event Horizons And Ancient Aliens and Pawn Stars, right?
kaden chang He could do ‘’TheHistory of Fast Food’’ in the USA
You guys know all the good stuff is on Military History Channel, right?
Same comments on every single video.🤦♀️
My late uncle, Fireman John C. Higgins, was a crewman aboard the USS Pueblo. Being the tallest crewmember he was singled out for abuse, he suffered from PTSD until his death in early 2011.
Big respect to your uncle. May he rest in peace. Those poor guys took a real beating from the NKs.
Sorry for your and his loss. I also knew a man who was on that chip-a Mr. Meadoers I think his name is? Anyway, for years I knew his wife but not he actually-because she was a librarian here. I would see him come in often bringing her a lunch or flowers.
RIP to a fellow Higgins!
How tall was he?
to hell with the commies
I am Korean.
My family fled during the Korean War and settled in Busan and has been living well so far. After a long time, the Republic of Korea has developed a lot and suffered a lot in the war.
I'm helping countries that are missing.
All of these are the sacrifices of many countries that helped during the Korean War and thanks to people.
It's been a long time now, but many people still appreciate and remember your hard work during the Korean War.
Thank you very much for protecting the Republic of Korea with young blood during the Korean War.
I will never forget your sacrifice in the Korean War until I die.
Thank you.
You are the true heroes of Korea.
Korea has done so much for the world in return. Korea is a great nation filled with free people. Thank you Korea! I hope i can visit your great country someday! The most educated country on earth!
We have to Invade the North and Unify your peoples peninsula
My Dad served in Korea in 1952-1954. He was wounded several times. He found a girlfriend in Seoul, got her pregnant but her family refused to let her leave for America with him. My Dad never forgot about his son in Korea.
I have been to Korea many times as I work for a company located in Daegu. Korea is a lovely country and the people are very friendly and traditional. The food is off the hook and Bulgogi and Dak-galbi are my favorite with a few Soju's for good measure.
Americans can learn much from Koreans. I really enjoy a good baseball game between Samsung Lions and Doosan Bears. I hope to return as soon as COVID restrictions are removed.
Thank you for that heart felt commentary. I often wondered what the people really thought. Now I know.
@@williamrodrigues8333 are you going to volunteer to be one of the uncountable thousands of soldiers that would inevitably die in such a war?
Mark, thanks for telling "our" story. I was a in the 2nd ID in 67-68. Your report is very much like I remember it. We patrolled the north and south banks and hills of the Imjin R, from Freedom Bridge for about 3 miles east. At first, I didn't believe the op reports of numerous infiltrators crossing the river at night, thinking our soldiers were seeing deer, or hearing the wind. My first night on a patrol we set up como wire, waist-high, about 40 yds either way, in front of your positions. We had 6 contacts that night, fired at each one but found nothing the next morning. We resighted in our M-14's and their Starlite scopes the next morning.
When the Pueblo was captured, I thought the NK's were blinding our intelligence and an invasion was days away. Tet happened 4 days later. Then, I was certain the NK's would open a second front. We remained on "alert", bivouacking in the hills until April. As it turned out the Soviets wanted the ship captured so they could verify the encryption codes John Walker, a spy inside the Pentagon was providing them.
The infiltrations continued. That summer (`68) a second raid was made on the President's residence, the Blue House. Six or so NK's got inside, weren't able to find President Rhee, were forced out, and fled north. Blocking positions were set up in layers. We were located about 1 mile from the Imjin River. About midnight someone or "someones" appeared in front of one of our positions, opened fire, and seriously wounded two soldiers. Not knowing where the enemy was we set up a circular defensive position then conducted the evacuations, providing cover as their stretchers were carried down the hill to a road and a field ambulance, also now with security. All the while a steady rain lasted until near dawn. As the eastern sky began to lighten we finally felt some relief, but we were greatly saddened by the serious wounds received by our two platoon members.
For my fellow soldiers and I serving in those years it was a long, stressful, and at times a dangerous 13 months. Thank you for the recognition.
A fascinating comment, including the allusion to Walker.
Like UK soldiers in "tight" situations, your narrative is obviously accurate from its straight forward tone, lack of self regard and real concern for others.
Thanks for your story. I'm piecing together memories of stories from the past 60+ years. What is becoming apparent is the NK forces never stopped their covert or semi-covert war. Even after the cease-fire my dad was walking patrol on the new DMZ which was only marked by a couple barbed wire "fences". In the darkness he could see at least 2 NK coming through the wire. He and his partner opened up with their M1 rifles and the NK disappeared into the dark on the NK side.
It was very tense because the US figured the NK/Chinese would use any excuse to restart the war. With the huge numbers of PRC troops still in the area the ChiCom forces were a very real threat. He had some interesting stories with the oddest one about swimming in a river while NK or PRC troops were swimming on the other side.
Me 11Bravo Korean DMZ '84-'85 1st/9th. Respect.
Jim Small, I was there as well, Dec. '67 to Apr. '69. Which unit were you in, and what Camp? When did you arrive and rotate?
@@geraldmahle9833 Alpha Co., Camp Liberty Bell(Hell), July'84-July'85. 1st/9th Bat.(Keep up the Fire)
Channels like this is the reason why I hardly watch TV.
You and me both! 👍
What is TV?
Is there owt on TV these days, gave it up completely in 94. ¿?!
True. And you don't get more than half of your time spoiled with ads.
Cable TV is a Rip off. There is more than enough good free stuff out there to watch, especially if you enjoy history.
Wow, I've seen vets wearing Korea hats, which confused me since they appeared younger than vets of the first Korea war. Great video.
My actual goodness, I’m South Korean, a history student, and thought I knew our military history through and through. Imagine my surprise when I saw this video. Second Korean War-never heard of. South Korean troops killed in cross border operations-thought it was a rumor. US servicemen also losing their lives while countering infiltration-unreal. The same period GIs were fighting communism in Vietnam, they also fought in a conflict that was completely overshadowed and sidelined. Yet they were the critical deterrent that effectively shut down the prospect of another full scale war in Korea. Now I can properly thank all the US soldiers who fought and died for ‘a country they never heard of’, from 1950 to 1969 and until today. Bless America, thanks to you and my grandfathers I live in a democracy. No thanks to China, North Koreans live in hell.
Thank you for this great video, you really leave nothing forgotten. This is what a proper ‘history channel’ should be, unbiased, accurate, penetrating and eye opening. Once again, thank you for your service.
research South Korea joining the Vietnam war too in strong numbers South Korea is a great and loyal friend of the united states to fight communism.
@@stumpedii8639 Simple History has a good little video about that topic.
Thank you my Korean brother in the world (I am not Korean, I am white American but I say brother anyway) that you love America and do not hate us. I taught English in Bucheon for a year and most of the adult Korean women hated America and talked so many bad things about our soldiers and thought we were useless and arrogant. Also they thought Psi's song against US troops and that they should be killed was okay for him to write. All they did was mock America and it made me so angry.
@@MaharlikaAWA They sure won't do that when the Communist come over the border again.
@@garrisonnichols807 Yeah but why do so many ajumas hate America? I am talking 40-50 year olds.
A classmate of mine was stationed in Korea at that time. Now I understand why he glared at the guys, at our 50 year reunion, who told him how lucky he was to get Stationed in Korea instead of Vietnam. We all knew he did patrols on the DMZ, but I had no idea. I wonder who else has no clue what he really did?
And that is the worst kind of duty you can have, just walk around until someone starts shooting at you.
@@LTPottenger How right you are. In Vietnam I knew they were there waiting, and if not them something would explode and injure someone. Guaranteed.
From my memory was a few newspaper stories but they were infrequent and usually overshadowed by Vietnam news and campus riots, etc etc. My dad actually got a letter from the US Army in the late 60's, requesting he re-enlist and would be guaranteed artillery job. He was like...is this a joke?....then laughed. He'd been in Korea in 1953 as infantry then artillery and had a belly full of Korea and the US Army. He never replied. :)
@@robmax4416 In those days that amounted to an extra $55 a month for all enlisted ranks, $100 for warrant officers and $110 for officers. Pretty generous. NOT!
Mark Felton, reminding us of what the history channel was like before swamp loggers and ancient aliens took over!
Yes and should be renamed the the "alien channel" that channel sucks now!
Andy Gray think I’ll stick to people who matter lol
I wonder if they'd give Mark a show
Ryle Heart why put down HC to build up MF.....there is another option, like both, don’t compare. Everything is not binary.
Mike Beard what in hell are you even on about. I put the History channel down as a comparison because the HC has become a shadow of its former self and Mark is reminding us of what it was like to have a solid channel discussing historical topics rather than theoretical alien garbage or reality tv based nonsense. Nothing wrong with that statement but for you to even say that something like that is not binary is like me having a business called the “oyster shack” but it serves hot dogs, it just doesn’t make any sense and subverts people’s expectations about what they’re getting.
My uncle admitted to my dad and I that while his battalion was on rotation about 10 miles south of the DMZ one night while in patrol. The platoon was ambushed in 1967
They used to infiltrate all the time. Mostly done by digging tunnels (ideas given to them by the Viet Cong) and Sarge Bill shot a number of them through the years. Their bodies were never returned or that would be an official admission to an act of war. They were buried unmarked graves, somewhere in the countryside.
@@carlevans5760 The DMZ of today is not the DMZ then.
At that time everything north of the River was actually in North Korea and guards for the DMZ had to travel through N Korea to get to the DMZ.
After 69 or 70 the land south of the DMZ was put into South Korean territory.
The tunnels you speak of.
The first was found inside the DMZ near Pan Mun Jom in the then sector defended by US troops aasigned to the UN.
The border was altered so the exit was in North Korea.
The 2nd and 3rd were located in other places along the DMZ. One far to the east.
The 4th tunnel was found by seismic detection and countermined.
The downward counter shaft was extremely steep and deep.
It came out in a small chamber where the holes drilled to insert explosives were still visible.
The tunnel was rough about ten feet wide and ten feet high.
About a hundred feet up was a steel wall with an airlock installed by the UN.
Through a viewport on the other side were two ROK army soldiers in reinforced pillboxes. Strung out down the tunnel were lights and birds in cages. If the birds start dropping dead nerve gas is present.
The tumnel on the other side of the viewport was at least 20 feet wide and 20 feet tall.
The N. Koreans goal was to dig under the river and come up on the south side.
The tour guide said they estimated an armored division an hour would have been capable of using the tunnel had it been completed.
A N Korean defector said that 17 tunnels had been planned.
My husband, Bob Chudej, was an MP near the DMZ in 1966-67. He's told me how difficult it was being there with the North Koreans infiltrating and how he couldn't return fire when the North Korean snipers were firing at his Jeep as he was going across one of the bridges across the Imjin. He behaved in Korea in a way that very nearly ended our marriage but I'm proud of him for serving in the Army under difficult circumstances at a time when the American people were particularly hard on military personnel.
I was there on the DMZ during this time. Would do patrols up to the MDL. I remember it being so cold that you didn't want to stop moving or you would freeze.
I supported you at that time........51st Signal Btn. I Corp
What took me off guard was spending a year on the South Coast and only seeing a sprinkling of snow in the winter. When I moved North of Seoul it was like a different country. As cold as I ever want to see.
You do my uncle Ricky justice by this video. He was killed in this conflict as a young 2nd LT. I wish to thank you Mark. Someone remembered his great sacrifice to the country he so proudly served. He was an infantry platoon leader with the 2nd INF DIV. my family members have all served our country, but uncle Ricky was the greatest of us all. Defenders of the realm.
Finger slipped when I tried to press like. Problem fixed. And I respect your uncle for his service.
God bless your family for their sacrifice for this once great nation. I sometimes fear we are under judgement because we have forgotten those who gave all for our nation while glorifying the fake heroes of cinema and professional sports. May God save us. #neverforget
God Bless Your Perfection
Legend
Defender of the realm, even if it is 6,700 miles away. We know they were fighting against communism. :-/
The sailor who died on the Pueblo was Duane Hodges, my cousin’s brother-in-law. I went to his funeral.
Liar
lmao ok douchebag
Records say he was helping destroy confidential information when he was killed. Linguists I knew claim he was one of them and shot by the captain of the Pueblo because he had to much knowledge to fall into Kroean hands. Either way that is a sad way to go. Sorry for your loss
@@MiguelMorales85 funny that almost everyone in comments will claim the soldiers are their family members lol
@@treekid7455 Don't you think perhaps that they are related bearing in mind that the world isn't as big as it once was!
Hypothetically speaking!!
As a Korea born Korean, growing up in 80s, I was not aware of the casualties since the end of the Korean war. This is jaw dropping.
Many thanks to the US and Korean military servicemen who sacrificed.
Yeah you probably also don't know that Park was assassinated by your own KCIA publicly after a university massacre that the US wanted to distance itself from. History is far stranger than what western propaganda wants you to believe and Korea has never been as free as you thought.
@@TheHiyy sounds like somebody is being watched by North Korean spies
Aware of the North Korean casualties too? Forgotten you are one people? Forgotten all of you have fought in the 19th century against China for your freedom? Forgotten you have fought against Japan for your freedom?
The US didn't fight for Korea, they fought for US interests. The Chinese didn't fight for Korea, they fought for China's interests, to keep those yanks far from their border.
The great nation South Korea has become means that the sacrifices were not wasted.
As I mentioned in a reply to a comment I saw posted here from another Korean gentleman like you, he had said all Koreans greatly appreciated the sacrifices and assistance of the Americans.
My reply was that the younger generation definitely did not share the same feelings of respect and gratitude that older generations had because they did not know or live through the troubles.
My family moved from Japan to Korea in 1968, and we were always hearing about "infiltrators". My father worked for the Army Corps of Engineers and one of his jobs was to hunt for tunnels on the DMZ.
The North Korean infiltrating forces seized a farmer's house, but they didn't expect the farmer warned the authority, because it's beyond the wildest imagination to the North Korean soldiers that a farmer would have telephone at home.
NK infiltrators were still a problem in 1976. My best friend was an MP assigned to the Seoul area when the NK attacked and hacked to death the US troops. He and his company were issued one M16 20rd mag and two mags of 45 auto, then sent to the DMZ. Pretty pathetic in so many ways. He said the 2nd Div was only expected to last 8 minutes if the NK launched a 1950 level invasion.
Later when things calmed down some infiltrators hijacked a bus which was found and stopped by MPs and RoK katusas. Both Korean sides started shooting at each other being liberal in their use of rifle ammo. My friend was in the crossfire with his 45 auto trying be one with a street light post.
The NK were all killed and probably some civilians but not sure. MPs and Katusas came out without serious injuries.
Point is that infiltrators were probing and successfully coming ashore all over the SoKorean coastline which was impossible to fully guard.
@@LuvBorderCollies
Please forgive my ignorance but what exactly is a katusa?
Reminds me of a story where they North Koreans were infiltrating the south and one of the groups stumbled upon a random guy. Rather than capturing him they thought they would try to convert him to communism. After the North Koreans left the dude contacted the authorities
@@TheCimbrianBull Katusa is an acronym:
Korean
Attached
To
United
States
Army
Katusas are RoK soldiers assigned to American units.
@@7superdaimajin
Ah, that makes sense. 👍
From a Korean, thank you for covering this!
If anyone here would like to look into some original period footage from Korea, check out the KTV 대한뉴스 uploads. ua-cam.com/channels/8_LPVE4Yuc6KF0opF6uS_w.html
I would like to take this opportunity to thank the South Korean people for showing the world how to beat Covid-19. Too bad one of the largest countries on this planet ignored what Korea had done and is still doing.
look at his profile pic bruh
@@joeyjamison5772 durp
@@raybohn7 cringe
Mark, my Dad was in Korea at this time. I showed him this video and he got really emotional that someone brought this to light in 2020/2021. He told us so many stories that this video brought back. Being deployed there at this time saved him from going to Vietnam
I was there in 76 as a young artillery officer. Pulled duty in the DMZ as a forward observer with the grunts. Yes, there were several "it never happened" incidents. Still have the scars.
Imprisoned Sailors of the USS Pueblo were photographed middle fingers extended, telling their captors it was a Hawaiian symbol of good luck. Madlads.
Edit: Dear God in Heaven what have I created... Warning to those venturing below *turn* *back* *now*
For real???
Nevermind, it is! hahah
Just search "uss pueblo sailors middle finger"
A US airman captured by the North Vietnamese did something similar, although in his case he was seated with his hands on his knees so the finger was pointed downwards. The photograph was published in a US magazine but they airbrushed out the finger as it was deemed to be offensive.
Dean Stuart imagine that, now they publish articles saying child molestation is natural. The media is the enemy of all.
And we still have 35k US soldiers still in the ROK. Permanent virus protection.
Remember that while all of this was happening 40,000 of South Korea's best troops were actually in combat in South Vietnam.
American colonial forces.
@@Kaparzo -- Liberty-loving Asians trying to help other Asians preserve their liberty.
@mike boultinghouse thats quite offending to read mate
@@gregb6469 ROK was a dictatorship until 1981 liberty my ass
@@gregb6469 Good one. Thanks for the laugh!
I’d no idea other than my uncle, a Korean and Vietnam combat vet, mentioned there was still large skirmishes. But no citing of thousands in conflict. This is excellent information that more folks should know. Well done!
WHAAAAT?! (7:55) That got skipped in History class. o_O
One of my next door neighbors, his name is ken, was in the DMZ conflict and He invited me in one day to talk about his time because he knew I was a fan of war history. The stories he told me shocked me, the fact that half the time they knew an attack was coming was from the smell of kimchi in the air from the enemy soldiers breath, that’s how close combat was at times. I could tell he was heavily affected by his time there, and sadly has severe lung cancer from the dropping of chemicals in the war zone. It’s a sad state that most people don’t even know about this war, and even more sad the government refuses to honor ken’s unit because they were supposedly “never there”
Ken's family can get benefits due to his lung cancer, if his unit was in areas known to have been defoliated with Agent Orange. Lung Cancer is a listed "Presumptive Illness" for VA benefits for thiose serving in AO areas. See a VA counselor
I didn't realize how recently this was posted
My man are you a time traveller? It just got posted 3 minutes ago
Dan Gurău yeah probably
@Dan Gurău I'm not - infact I just got the notification on my phone haha
@@DakotaofRaptors then why does it say 4 hours ago
@@aquiegaloucura That's when the video showed up on my feed for some reason.
Thank you Dr. Felton for commenting on these facts that are generally not known.
I served in Korea 1968-69, in a Supply & Transport unit, at US Army ASCOM Depot, in Buoyeong.
A big base back then, it also housed the 121st Evac. Hospital.
We were located less than 25 miles from the DMZ where our brothers from the 2nd and 7th Division were stationed in different Camps.
Thanks to you, now I understand why we had so many night and early morning alerts with the sirens loudly sounding alarms and we had to go get up grab our gear and go to defensive positions at bunkers in the perimeter until further notice.
Of course the soldiers knew that it was probably an infiltration but never the commanders admitted nothing and no information was given to us.
Finally ASCOM had a mortuary unit, and a friend who worked there commented they regularly received victims of those firefights at the DMZ.
I never knew that the Korean dmz was that warm a fire zone. I'd only just heard about the surrounding events of operation paul Bunyan from '76 and thought it was somewhat quiet before and after that. Not a pot shot commando infil' zone.
DragonSword I first heard the story of Operation Paul Bunyan from a guy who was in a C130 inbound from Alaska ready to parachute in for that.
Respect
Bud Strickert Thank you. You are so right.
Well at my age I don’t need that Special Forces hero pretentiousness.
Besides it wouldn’t be right, and I would be lying to myself.
I just went, spent my 13 month tour there and left.
@Mark Kenny And now you can watch Comrade Claire Fox of the Revolutionary Communist Party strut her stuff in the House of Lords thanks to Mr Johnston.
To bad my dad died several years ago. He loved this type of stuff. I think he would have remembered some of this stuff.
Rip Dad
so many of us know nothing about the The Second Korean War as it was overshadowed by Vietnam. thanks for making the effort to do this!
I recently retired from 3rd infantry division of South Korean Army. I was posted at 38th parallel overlooking North Korea guarding and patrolling the DMZ like the video showed. In the summer one of our tasks are cutting grass in order to maintain visual of our side of the DMZ and secure the patrol path. While cutting the grass we can rarely find a old rifle (broken parts) or old uniforms and used ammo shells buried in the dirts. Those items still poking out of ground, 70 years after the war ended. I can never thank enough for the sacrificed soldier’s who once stood on the same ground as me. Thank you
Good on you mate - very interesting and, I imagine a bit eerie being based on the site of a past battle. Good on you for for doing your bit.
@@peterhoughton3770 1@
@michael boultinghouse The entire population of South Korea would likely dispute your conclusion. Without the continued fervent defense of South Korea, the north would more than likely invaded again, all with Russia or China's support of course. With a maniacal & tyrannical family such as the Sung's, any level of atrocity or war is possible.
@michael boultinghouse For North Korea exists only because of ONE REASON: China does not want American Troops on it´s Borders....
I was in 15th inf div beside you. Damn hard cold weather out there.
Spent 2 years in ROK, 1 of which was spent actively patrolling the DMZ with the 2nd ID. The scariest, most haunting place I've ever served. Found a hill on one of our patrols that had very old piles of .30 Shell cases and lots of chewed up barbed wire. Made a note and went to the base library a few months later and it turned out to be a Turkish UN unit that got overrun. Things got serious for me after that. Good video Mark Felton.
"Most people are familiar with the Korean War"
Man, some people don't even know America controls Puerto Rico and Guam.
As long as Guam doesn't tip over....
As a puerto rican i explain my legal status too often.
@@gabrielmarquez9044 it's really pissing me off that congress won't allow you guys to become a state IAW your previous votes. And as a geographer your never included on maps of the US.
Hey it took me over an hour to watch this video with all the buffering in Samoa. The least you can do is mention us 😆🤣
A congress woman from Georgia did not know Guam is not foreign country
Yes, my grandfather remembers when this was happened. he was serviced with u.s. army around 60s to 70s (KATUSA) He mentioned that some of american soldiers were killed during night patrols.
They brutally murdered, like dagger was stab on the chest.
I'd kill for a "Band of Brothers" style series based on the Korean War.
Doyle Hargraves like maybe the withdrawal from the northern reservoir . ‘’ The Choson frozen’’ Or [The Frozen Choson]. [Sorry about my spelling , you get my idea?]
Never happen. Hollywood loves communism.
You should read ABOUT FACE, by David H.Hackworth. The absolute best up- close combat record you're likely to find, by one of our most decorated soldiers ever. And all true. Trust me, get it. APOCALYPSE NOW was a smear tactic against Hackworth when he served in Vietnam. He served from 1947 to app. 1969.
The Koreans remade an old TV war series named Comrades aka Legend of the Patriots. Epic fight scenes but obviously fictional.
@@geraldmahle9833 I read it. Twice.
I seen one of those ‘stolen valour’ videos..the guy was saying he’d been in Korea fighting about this time. The guy with the camera was laughing at the old soldier calling him a liar ‘cos we weren’t there then’ . Not so perhaps.
Someone should comment on that video and educate the guy
Most of those guys are absolute morons especially that buds131 guy, I would love to break that wimp's jaw. He may or may not be a seal, but he is definitely full of sht and I am 100% sure he never saw any action of any kind.
@@LTPottenger : Wasn't he a serving instructor, then later re-prepping Blackwater type personnel til it all got delicensed ¿?
Can you find it and reply with a link? Or what was the channel name or video title
archiveacc324 I’ve looked back. It was a compilation video. Not dug it up yet. It was two guys in an outside bar talking, just in civvies, denims and T-shirt’s. no dodgey uniform or such like. And the kid with the camera is grilling him about his ‘MoS’ and laughing at him, about his service and saying it didn’t add up.
Obviously stolen valour is not cool. But some of those old sweats you meet, some of them have alcohol problems or such and people write them of or just because they are sketchy on details or jargon doesn’t mean they are lieing. They are talking about events 40plus years ago.
Old soldiers never die , they just fade away.
Every one thinks they’re Jeremy bloomin Paxman cos they have a camera phone.
I don’t know, I think some of that stuff is wrong, just my 2bobs worth.
This is blowing my mind. I had NO IDEA there was a second war. THANK YOU! You've gained a subscriber.
Thanks for bringing this to light. My Dad served in a Ranger battalion after the Cease Fire Agreement in the mid-1950s. He kept silent for decades and opened up in the years before he died (2017) about the action he had seen along the DMZ. "They violated the treaty and we did too", making numerous incursions into and across the DMZ. He saw much more action than he ever had let on. They were constantly sniped at and he lost several platoon mates to mines and snipers. They were ordered to go in and "clean out" the snipers several times. And they did. It was the first time I realized he'd actually killed people up close. They rotated him in and out of Japan during his tour, and he loved Japan. But he said it was always tough going back, He thought he stood a decent shot at getting killed, despite the "Armistice".
My grandfather was seriously wounded during an ambush in this conflict. He doesn’t talk about what happened. My grandmother told me about his story before she passed. Thanks for covering this, it’s so overlooked and we lost American lives here. My grandfather is still alive to this day.
One way you tell a Real Veteran from a BULLSHITER is that they NEVER BRAG AND BOAST!
Coiled Steel ^this is 100% true every legit veteran I’ve met has either humbly played down their service when thanked or if it did somehow come up in conversation talked about how much bullshitting them and their buddies did during the war lol
is that so?
i doubt it
vanvan Well, you can doubt it all you want. It doesn’t change the fact of the matter.
vanvan what do you doubt exactly?
This goes out to Walt. Combat Infantryman landed in Incheon. Peace old friend
Finally, the second Korean War comes to light. Amazing how an entire war can occur but is never noticed. Korea and Columbia should be well known.
Colombia?
@@richardmarty9939 Colombia contributed troops as part of the UN during the 1950-53 war.
I was on the DMZ at Panmunjom in 1968 right after USS Pueblo was captured by the North Koreans. I remember walking the line separating the South from North with a small squad of U.S. Military Police. We met a North Korean squad advancing on the other side of the line. It was a very tens situation as we passed each other. BTW: instead of the standard military holster, the American M.P.'s carried their sidearms in quick draw holsters which they made themselves. I made one for myself also!
I am south Korean, adopted internationally and have lived my whole life in America I wanted to say how grateful I am that American soldiers gave their lives for a war that wasn’t theirs to fight and fought for the freedom of another country, I would not be here today with my family today if it wasn’t for these brave men God bless all of them
Edit: It’s also been pointed out that I should be thanking other countries as well, so thank you to ALL the men whether from America or not for fighting in a war that wasn’t theirs to begin with God bless you all
Edit: Thank you for all the likes I don’t deserve them, the veterans who fought in the Korean War deserve them thank you for taking the time to read my comment
RIP to those south vietnamese who can't be saved because people think the US is the agressor
triadwarfare RIP the soldiers who lost their lives in that war, my grandpa was lucky and was one of the ones who made it back alive I remember him telling me stories about laying in the field with his friends who had been killed
@mike boultinghouse far from the truth.
@Suspicious Ned not even useful, just an idiot.
mike boultinghouse thank you Mr Antifa
I don’t have inside information today, but when I was active duty U.S. Army 1979-1986 there were unreported border incidents on the DMZ daily. Mostly shots fired, but occasionally someone was injured or killed. It’s difficult duty. Thanks for this reminder, Mark!
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Wow! Where the family members of the likes soldiers told exactly happened? I was taught that the Korean War never technically ended and is therefore the longest US war and we are simply on a long cease fire.
Yes sir, correct. I did OSUT at Benning in 1987, but our 1SG had been in ROK a couple of years earlier and he stated this very thing.
My former roommate "Sarge Bill" had been stationed in Korea about 1/2 of his time in the Army. He had two specialties: 1) Combat Medic 2) Track Sgt. He was there during the Tree Incident, and was one of the American responders on scene after it happened. He was supposed to go to Vietnam but orders changed and was sent to Germany instead-likely saving his life. 75% of his class of medics-were killed in Vietnam.
Absolutely true, I was at camp howze 83 through 84, infantry patrol would talk about skirmishes the next day in the mess hall…
I was in boot camp (USMC recruit depot PI) when the Pueblo was captured. We were put on standby. Packed up our gear to a shortened training session. To get ready to be called into action.
I was stationed in Korea from 1991 to 1992. I worked in the G2 (intelligence) section of the 2nd Infantry division and all DMZ incidents were reported through our office. I can tell you that there pretty much wasn't a week that went by that at the very least small arms fire was traded across the DMZ. Usually it happened in the Korean sector so it never made the news in the US. My favorite incident was the one where one of the South Korean propaganda speakers (both sides had huge speakers to broadcast propaganda across the DMZ) said something the North Koreans didn't like (probably something about Kim Il Sung's mother) and the North Koreans responded by destroying the South Korean speaker with heavy machine gun fire. The South Koreans didn't miss a beat and from a different, adjacent speaker they replied something to the effect of "the truth hurts, doesn't it?"
I served in Korea in 1968. Probably one of the biggest reasons that this did not turn out worse was the determination of Walter Bonnesteel the commander of UN forces in Korea. He realized that South Korean forces had to step up to the plate and defend their own country. We have got your back but it's your country and you've got to defend it. ROK troops found their spine and rose to the challenge. Best damned troops I ever served with bar none. Lots of lonely nights guarding the binjo ditch but lots of fond memories of the land of the morning calm and its people.
My dad served in Korea on the Dmz at camp Kaiser in 1968
@@philipharris8027 thank you for your service
Thanks for your service, brother.
I served there from 1969-70.
Yes, those ROK Army soldiers were tough and well prepared.
I had friends among them, and have unforgettable memories of my time there.
Thank you for your service. Korea today could not have been with out great people serving like you, I salute you.
All the katusha I knew were made of steel! Fearless!
Mark honestly runs the best UA-cam channel
Tru dat
James Bissonette : Hold my glory
I served with the US Army's 2nd ID, C Company 2nd Engineer Batallion, from 1984 to 1986, and we used to patrol the DMZ on a two months rotation program. We routinely cleared landmines and installed new ones; we also inspected and repaired lots of defensive and offensive installations along the border.
In a crazy way, we enjoyed Korea along with its dangers and challenges, the lifestyle, although odd created character on most of us young soldiers.
I was a college student during those years and only heard about Vietnam.
Many thanks for sharing this important historical information I knew nothing about! 👍
This is the quality only a talented solo artist can create. Please never sell out Mr Felton
My father went to Vietnam in 1965, but he said his first combat was when he was assigned to a unit up on the Korean DMZ in 1959-1960.
@Alejandro Franchini He didn't give me a lot of details. But like this video it involved cross border excursions of North Koreans. They were trying to kill sentries, and my dad was involved in a couple of brief shootouts.
@@randallkelley3600 1965 there was combat in Vietnam yes but combat really doesn't ramp up to the extreme until around 1968. So I wouldn't be surprised he might not have seen much action then.
We were briefed and educated on all these events when I was sent to be stationed in Korea. Almost forgot about it until this great video. Thank you
IMO Mark Felton is the BBC of war documentaries.Always clear,concise,well researched,outstanding.
True story. I was an actor in a ROK TV show filming a stupid ghost story right alongside the DMZ on an almost brand new and unused freeway back in 2004. The freeway or highway had 3 lanes either side and was in perfect condition but almost dormant.
Anyway, we filmed this crap show from the afternoon until about 10 at night. We'd had to pass through 2 armed gates/fences to get to this quite desolate spot, so there weren't shops to buy our dinner at. The lights every 50 meters along this freeway attracted huge moths, the size of dinner plates though.
The whole time we filmed on this unused highway that ran roughly East to West, along the perimeter of the DMZ, only 1 car drove past us- I was actually sleeping in the middle of the road between takes, which shows how unused the freeway/highway was.
Turns out this new useless highway was some sort of politically motivated infrastructure build from the South's former President Kim Dae Jung (a truly useless leader) from 3 years earlier. Some kind of "unification" road had justified the expense of building the thing.
Anyway, at around 9:00pm we were still filming and I had to act that I'd seen a ghost as that was the story as it was a kind of South Korean version of 'In Search Of', where mysteries were explored. Yes, it obviously wasn't a quality TV show.
So, the cameraman on this boom thingy, surrounded by lights all illuminating a man on a desolate road who sees a ghost (me acting this scene out), he calls out to me 'find a star in the sky over my shoulder and stare at it' .
Well, over his shoulder there were lights in the night sky to focus on alright, but they weren't stars- they were flares from the DMZ, launched about 500 meters away, slowly floating down to earth.
From the moment the night sky took over there'd been a steady stream of flares fired by the USA and ROK forces nearby, over their patch of the DMZ.
Might have been common for them, but to an onlooker, it was like the bridge scene in Apocalypse Now.
I realized what a truly odd set of circumstances this all was back then, so I've kept it to myself since. Tis a very strange place.
What an amazing story - thanks for sharing
I wonder if you can still find it anywhere lol (the show I mean)
Nice, almost spooky, account, thanks.
Thank you for your service.
@@carpetbeggar Hi, no, I was acting in South Korea from 2000-2006. I too thank those for their service.
I love hearing surreal snippets like this. Thank you for sharing!
Having served in Korea during Desert Storm, I can tell you we were very close to all out war in the winter of 90 on the peninsula. Ee had an alert on a Fri am that was no drill. Lock n load orders over the net with the F16s on afterburners overhead.
@mike boultinghouse Korean civil war started when Kim Il Sung invaded the independent Republic of South Korea without a declaration of war. While I don't comment on massacres that I had no participation in, I can tell you that the same man put 1+ million men of his army up to the DMZ in 1990 and was ready to send the balloon up. That did not count communist agitators or spies in country. My estimated life span once that happened was 7 min 27 seconds. I was stationed less than 15 miles from the DMZ. As we have only a truce, we're still at war.
In the 80s we were on alert for 3 days while Reagan was bombing Libya. Two of those days we were in MOPP 3 and 4, in a foxhole, in the rain. It sucked.
mike boultinghouse KIM JONG IL GROUPIE, EH? YODOK TOTAL CONTROL!
So...the Pueblo incident was part of this secret war! Fascinating. Thank you!
You got me on this one. Know about "retreat hell we are attacking in a different direction" and the very wise officer that rescued what he could from frozen Chosen
That was Chesty Puller, or another officer's name whom I can't think of at this time?
I'd like see a story on America's allies in Vietnam; Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, etc. Thanks for another interesting story we wouldn't have ever heard of otherwise.
Simple history has a video of South Korean soldiers on the Vietnam war
This is what History Channel USED TO BE...Now its finding Bigfoot, Aliens, UFO's, Hitler,Pawn Stars etc.I refuse to watch it.
"used to" I'd say like a decade now
Pawn stars gay ancient aliens gay bit Hitler interesting
Why are you using gay as a bad word?
@@tuga_ace nothings wrong with that
@@tuga_ace in america gay has simply become a durogotory statement towards pretty much anything. Not much different than australians calling things c*nts. The word itself may offend you but it more often than not isn't directed towards homosexuals and has simply become a word used to bash things
Mark is my favorite historian, no BS or sugar coating and simple facts about incidents long shoved into th memory hole.
One of my brothers served as an engineer in Korea ( 68’?69’) during this time, another was in Viet Nam in 69’/70’. The one in Korea end up in the hospital with a stomach wound. He never talked about it other than saying that they had to build fires to get concreat to set rather than freeze. He did have great respect for the soldiers of the ROK.
Thank you for telling people about this situation.
On patrol,or in an observation or listening post, along the barrier fence at night you weren't permitted to light a cigarette let alone create a fire to stay warm.
For 58 years I've considered myself quite the well read student of military history.
But I'm "today years old" of hearing of this aspect of the Korean conflict!
Your channel is amazing.
Once again proving you can always learn.
Did you learn History in college
It never stopped. My dad was there in 63/64 and was in multiple firefights on both sides of the border. I was there in 82/83. Once a month in the 80’s there were unsuccessful attempts by the PRK Army to get across. The Democracies need to understand that the Communists never give up and attack in hot wars and cold wars. Overtly and covertly. They are still at it today. By attacking the ROK in the 60s-present they drew forces away from RVN at the time and current efforts today. They coordinated this effort back then, and do so today. We need to be semper vigilant.
By now the South Korean military is capable of their own defense. But, American presence is a large deterrent of both North Korean and Chinese adventures.
As a Korean I concur. They always lie with peace talks, yet they open up their dams during monsoon season so they can flood South Korean rivers.
Or lay mines inside the South Korean borders...screw them
@mike boultinghouse It is dumbasses like you that prevented both sides to be reunified. Your ideology and lies. Hope you get to see the reality of communism one day.
Yeah except now the commies are in Portland!
I love history and am thankful for channels like this! I did not know any of this through high school or college, now I seek history out and love learning about it. Thank you!
when there in the late 80's, the skirmishes along the border were still going on. there was a huge binder, in the bunker behind headquarters that had all of them listed.
I can’t lie, from a person who loves WW2 as a subject and the Cold War etc, just well history in general, Mark Felton makes it so much more interesting, it would be awesome to have this guy as my history teacher lol, keep up the good work Mark 👌🏻
Same here. I'm a history nerd 🤓
I’m glad you’re bringing forgotten history into the light Mark. Keep it up!
My uncle told me about the hostilities going on after the Armistice. He was in a large truck that was moving along the DMZ in late 54 when it hit a mine in the road planted by saboteurs who snuck over the border. Some in truck were killed, my uncle spent almost 2 yrs in hospital recovering
Another incredibly well produced video about an interesting topic that's rarely covered. Excellent work as always!
Did not know this. I was drafted in November of 69 and sent to Nam the next year. We never heard of what was happening in Korea. But the ROKs who fought for us in Vietnam had a reputation for toughness.
Yep, for them, they where fighting for their homes.
Joseph;I trained with the 25th ROK Div.for 2 weeks.Tough troops. Officers had no trouble with physical punishment of their soldiers.
When I was stationed there in 1984 there was an "incident" on the DMZ just about every month of the 13 months I was there.
Hey, I was there 83 through 84, camp howze… Where were you? Just curious
Thank you for showing this. I knew about this from when I was in the Army. I was in Korea from 89-90 & 92-93. I was on and near the DMZ and within sight of the MDL. This place still played for keeps even then. Not reported to the press but even then the North would come across to test the Army. I was also in country when the 4th tunnel was found under the DMZ. It was a nervous time. Thanks for showing this and bringing to light the war that is the Forgotten War.
I love the Disney music with the narrator talking about ambushes and death like it's a coffee commercial. Thanks for serving! (6:20)
I wrote my Honors Thesis on the Pueblo Crisis and my Masters Thesis on the Park Chung-hee Era, so this is a treat to watch.
My grandpa was an intelligence officer from West Point during the Korean War and I could never get him to talk about a single thing. He was still taking his old career serious at age 89.
my dad graduated in '69, was drafted and was sent to Korea. That's where he served (and was wounded but wasn't supposed to be talked about itt, I was told) during the Vietnam War.
Awesome production. Thanks to all veterans who are watching, and all those who served during the conflicts mentioned. You are our nation's finest citizens.
I did know about the Pueblo incident, but I never knew about the rest of this. It was never discussed in history classes. Thank you.
The incidents at the DMZ continue to occur this very day. One of the most remembered incident outside the period of 1966-1969 conflicts was Operation Paul Bunyan, following “The Acts Murder Incident” at the bridge of no return. When a tree obstructing the view from an observation point was decided to be trimmed by the UN work party [mainly US and South Korean joint forces]. The tree trimming exercise turned into brutal murder of UN soldier's. Following this incident Ops. Paul Bunyan unfolded, when the tree was althogther removed with an entire force on standby. Turning into one of history's heavily militarised and military defended tree trimming operation.
Acts murder?
@@stevenobrien557 axe murder my friend, he mispelled axe to acts
Axe murders and it was 1977. I was in the USMC and we were put on alert by Pres. Ford. Bigger working party with lots of firepower went in and cut down a lot of trees in retaliation.
@@The8201 Jimmy Carter was President from 1976 to 1980. So your date or Prez. is wrong.
I was stationed at Clark Air Base in the Philippines. I took at military "hop" to Osan Air Base in S. Korea. Took a bus guided tour of the DMZ in 1988. Since we weren't allowed outside by the bridge of no return, our tour bus slowly drove beside the memorial plaque which is where the tree stump was once located. Loved my 10 day vacation in Korea. Hand to be in dress uniform in the DMZ. Made me feel proud of our countries. "IN FRONT OF THEM ALL"
There was a group of military linguists in South Korea during this time. We were an extension of the NSA. Were used sensitive, directional antennas to intercept transmissions from groups of North Korean infiltrators as they moved south in their attempt to disrupt and destroy.
After we served our time in Korea, some of us were stationed at NSA, Fort Meade. We were tasked with analyzing the thousands of intercepts coming in, reconstruct North Korean communication networks, and pulled out any intelligence that could help in stopping the bad guys from getting across the DMZ.
the bad guys were south of the DMZ ;)
@@dosmundos3830 Nice paying job it must be, shilling for communists in the UA-cam comments.
les bowes maybe u should move to the north forever.
It's bad guys on both sides.
And the people in the middle.
History in a nutshell.
Bro, NSA Fort Meade? NSA Auburn bro!
I never knew about the SECOND KOREAN WAR until today (11-30-2020) my God in Heaven. Thank you Mark Felton
Thank you for posting this mark
Thanks for the documentry, my brother was stationed in Korea with the 7th infantry during this time frame. My mother thought it was a blessing since he was not in Vietrnam. He told me a few stories but I don't beleive he told mom.
Poor lad
I can see why. He probably didn’t want her to ruin the idea that he was safe.
“The older M14,” at that point the M14 was only 7 years old at the time at 1966
And it was so garbage that it was already being replaced by the M16.
I like the M-14, reliable. 2nd choice- FN FAL/SLR.
Replaced the M-14 because of money, disregarding the soldier.
Clarence LaFuentes It is objectively nowhere near as reliable as an M16. The AR design is superior for reliability in every way than the M14 or M1 Garand design, and even then the actual original M14s were far worse with production problems and quality control than the actual original M16s.
@@clarencelafuentes4801 Not disregarding the soldier. Totally had the soldier in mind when they produced the M-16. Smaller round means less weight, means more ammo, means more firepower per soldier. Also, easier to control, means easier to train marksman, and better shot group in full auto.
I was in HS at this time but was never taught about this "second" Korean war. Thank you Mark, I'm still learning from your most excellent videos.
I was a medic in the 2nd Infantry Division in 1989. Most of what he talks about is available if you have the time and know what to search for. Our post library had several military papers written about the Second Korean War and a few graduates of the US Army War College have written papers on this as well. Mark is spot on, even in 1989 incidents on the DMZ "never happened" and reports were later rewritten or lost. I'm certain this happened until active patrolling stopped in 1991 and likely still happens today. When the third Korean War starts, I only hope both Washington & Seoul have strong leaders willing to stand up to any affront on the ROK democracy.
Camp Red Cloud, then Six ROK near DMZ, my tour was from December 1975 to Feb. 1977. Two soldiers hacked to death with axes by N Koreans in the DMZ. I was a cook at a secret comm site near the DMZ. I was given grenades and an M16 and told to be ready for Shtf. This video made me remember.
Was there too...Camp Hovey. That was on 8-18-76...44 yrs ago! Have a good one!
I actually have a copy of DMZ: A Story of the Panmunjom Axe Murder by Major Wayne A. Kirkbride, Adjutant of the 2/9 Infantry, Manchu. Fascinating read. Apparently there were a lot of hostile confrontations leading up to that incident when the JSA was unsegregated and NK guards had to cross into the south side past UNCSF guards to get to their posts on the north side of the MDL, including one where a US soldier was beaten so bad he had a crushed larynx that would never fully recover. To prevent repeat occurrences, they constructed a second bridge to the JSA across the Sachon River called the 72 hour bridge which refers to its construction time. The US army also renamed Camps Kittyhawk and Liberty Bell to Camps Bonifas and Bonifas East in honor of one of the slain officers from that incident.
So glad these videos are getting longer and longer. Also, Korean Conflict is one of my favorite subjects!!!
My father was on a US Navy Destroyer around Korea 1950-1952. At one point he was the engine man of a whale boat traveling from one Destroyer to another and the engine broke. They were adrift off the North Korean coast and could see people on the shore. The Destroyer sweep in and saved them from becoming POWs.
As a "gun-guy" I would have to say, based on this account alone, "The Second Korean War" is probably the M-14's moment of glory if it was well-esteemed by those soldiers using it there. Korea was my late Dad's war, and as an ordnance officer, he would often tell me he would have much preferred it to the M1 Garand they had then. (He had an M2 Carbine most of the time)
I visited with an Air Force veteran last summer who’s brother was actually a sailor on the USS Pueblo when it was captured and was taken prisoner.
Excellent documentary. General McArthur may have been an arrogant officer with a huge ego but he was right about one thing. He knew Korean War should have been pushed to the conclusion until all the communists were cleared out of the entire Korean Peninsula. As he said famously, “War should be a last resort but once chosen, it should be fought to a successful conclusion, there is no substitute for Victory.”
What is worst than war
Losing it
mike boultinghouse Only a moron would call other people who they don’t know as an idiot. Shut your filthy mouth and crawl back to where you came, you ignorant moron.
Thanks for your content. You're producing good, informative videos.
I love the irony of a "Safety First" sign in a war zone.
In this case, "safety first" meant be armed and armored and expect a fight.
Safety is actually more paramount in a war zone than say a military base in the states. Soldiers are killed by non combat things all the time. They get hit by vehicles, roller overs, negligent discharges, there was a guy that was killed inflating a 7 ton truck tire when it blew up in his face.
@@Chevelle602 The first U.S. casualty of Desert Shield/Desert Storm was a USAF Staff Sergeant who was struck and killed by a maintenance van at night on the flightline of one of the bases in Saudi Arabia. Normally he would've been wearing a reflective belt but apparently wasn't because everybody had been told not to since it was a war zone. When I was deployed to Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan we all wore our reflective belts at night. It all comes down to assessing your risks. What's more likely to happen: getting killed on purpose by an enemy because you're wearing a belt that only reflects light shined on it, or getting killed accidentally by one of your buddies because he didn't see you in time to avoid running you over?
Well I didn't expected that's there's the sequel of korean war :v
How 10 hours ago?
There was actually an 1871 prequel.
Korean War II: Electric Boogaloo
actually it's a still-on going movie
Because you never bother to research it?
Gotta love that theme tune and the straight forward, matter of fact delivery of facts not commonly known.
These history lessons are amazing! Thank you and please keep making them!
Nice work again Mark. I had no idea about this second Korean war. I served in the Army from 1976 to 1980 and never even heard of this conflict!
I was seventeen years old in 1969 so I was of an age to be aware of and interested in world events but the only part of that I was aware of previously was the Pueblo incident. I can only guess that Vietnam flooded the news media and pushed Korea into the background.
I am used to Mark informing me of events prior to my birth of which I was not previously aware. Now we are into a period when I was an avid watcher of nightly news programs and he is still informing me.
Thank you.
I swear my understanding of history is turned on its head every time this guy uploads a video.
I honestly didnt know about this 2nd chapter. Thanks for providing it.
Well, there you go, something I never knew about. Thanks for the Good work Mark.