Should we create a Dino-Chicken? - the Ethics of Making a Living-Biological Attraction
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Could we bring back a dinosaur? and more importantly should we even do it?
Today I will discuss the "Chickenosaurus" project of paleontologist Jack Horner and dive into the fascinating world of genetics and biology that exists in our not too distant future. I talk about everything from Jurassic Park to Domesticated dogs! Hope you enjoy and tell me what you think of all this!
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Citations:
Landers, J. (2014, November 10). Paleontologist Jack Horner is hard at work trying to turn a chicken into a dinosaur. Retrieved from www.washingtonpost.com/nation...
Geggel, L. (2015, May 19). Dino-Chicken Gets One Step Closer. Retrieved from www.livescience.com/50886-sci...
Kvon, E. Z., Kamneva, O. K., Melo, U. S., Barozzi, I., Osterwalder, M., Mannion, B. J., … Visel, A. (2016). Progressive Loss of Function in a Limb Enhancer during Snake Evolution. Cell, 167(3). doi: 10.1016/j.cell.2016.09.028
Horner, J., & Gorman, J. (2009). How to build a dinosaur: extinction doesnt have to be forever. New York, N.Y: Dutton.
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Chased by Dinosaurs - Giant Claw
Spy Kids 2: The Island of Lost Dreams
Jurassic Park
Building a dinosaur from a chicken - Jack Horner | TED-Ed ( • Building a dinosaur fr... )
Courtship display of Velociraptor mongoliensis ( • Courtship display of V... )
THE LOST WORLD: JURASSIC PARK - Compy Puppet Test - BEHIND-THE-SCENES
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"infectious" by Tobu
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Scientists "but what would we gain from this?"
All non-scientists "a cool dinosaur chicken.... Are you even listening to us?"
Better KFC
Bjørn again Christian underrated comment
true
@@Supergecko8 well the secret blend of herbs and spices could be cretaceous DNA, I have seen Popeyes chicken and I think they are closer to the perfect chicken leg size, we just need the funding.
But it wont even look cool
He turned a chicken into a dinosaur, the funniest shit I have ever seen
He calls it Chickenosaurus
you mean he turned (no?) a modern dinosaur into a so-called non-avian dinosaur (not, see the tail issue for example)
You've won, this is the most creative reference/joke here.
Comment: funny
Replies: akshtuuuully (actually)
named him "dino chicken" funniest shit I've ever seen
"is it unethical to make a dino chicken"
*takes a bite out of chicken sandwich
*takes a bite out a dino chicken nugget*
Delicious
thats what the dino chicken is gonna be when released
I dont think thats what he means...
@@Dillon-bl3dz duhh really?????? Of course it’s not but my point is why even speak about ethics when we have made chickens go from baby to adult in less then a month and keep them chillin in fridge waiting to be eaten it like saying is it ethical to make trees that grow to full size in one day and then you go outside and just cut down a forest
"I'm sure it's a dream every child once had"
Bro, I'm 29
You can never be too old
Every adult that grew up adoring the Jurassic Park franchise is likely wanting this to happen.
chickenosaurus: Novelty animal, ethically immoral
Pug: Cute dog
Where do we draw the line?
You can find pugs cute, but still recognise that it's unethical to breed them. The damage has been done, but it can be undone but just mixing dog breeds again, so we need to make people stop caring so much about "pure-breeds", so that in the future, someone will just want a dog, any cute and healthy dog, rather than specifically a pug.
Pugs are way worse. We forced them to be bred with crippling life threatening defects.
Morals are always a grey space in arguments like these. They change depending on too many factors. There will always be someone who thinks otherwise when it comes to questions like this.
Puts are absolutely immoral
dino chickens are immoral yet industrial chicken farms still exist
“Should we create animals for our entertainment?”
Ummmm,
*looks at all the different species of pets in existence *
people mutant pigs for meat,treating them inhumanely and called them stupid unclean creatures. human logic 🦧
@@zhumiss7054 not properly cooking their meat and then banning people from eating it because they got sick. human logic
@@siyacer not all of us are dumb
@@siyacer sand people always were special
i mean, most people have kids for entertainment
I’m really glad that your brought up breeding pets that we know will be sickly, because this is already relevant, and should have been widely discussed a long time ago.
I wonder if we could use CRISPR to undo the flaws from such breeding, by using genes from wolves or healthier dogs.
@Andrew Caulfield or just stop breeding dogs that are known to have big issues
yeah i think breeds like pugs for dogs and persians for cats should be outlawed personally
This makes me think of something my mom told me when I was rlly little and she was teaching me how to properly hold a rabbit “Remember this is an animal not a toy” I think the same concept can be applied here.
Animals can be toys.
Why here, but not with most things in life? Most things that are not normally considered "toys" are very much considered toys by millions of people. Cars, audio equipment, cameras, weapons, etc. I agree in principle, but your logic is very shaky.
Imagine turning a dinosaur into a dinosaur.
How?!
@@user-op3om4bb4x i think you missed the joke
Wowowlwlwkoww oh my godddde taht cwazy
That’s like turning a bird into a bird
Its like saying imagine making a dog into a wolf theyre two different species eben if wolfs are theyre ancestor they became theyre own species
Who cares about dinosaurs. We need to bring back pre-Cambrian goo creatures
Unfortunately physically impossible unless we like, reevolve them from the ground up or something
Cambrium explosion 2!!!!!
Let's create a copy of first life and boost its gene mutations and let it evolve it woud be interesting to see evolution but fast
No no no we don't need another Evangelion
*I DO* _I do.._
gets close to microphone: "CATGIRLS" I am dying of laughter
Please don't stop working on your videos. Your Voice and way of speaking is like a massage for my brain. .... And the topics are really interesting and well researched. Please don't stop. :)
"Should we create animals for our entertainment"
I mean...look at Pugs, wtf else was that thing created for?
Ah...well you did hit on that, I agree a lot of domesticated animals are messed up, so it's unfortunate that they are still bred.
@Jeremiah Olson Not what I was gonna say, but you may have a point there
shine in the dark goldfish doesn't sound unethical. common goldfish have face tumors.
One major difference between the chickensaurus and the pug. With the pug, the goal of the squashed in face IS the feature that causes suffering, while with a chickensaurus it is not obvious that any of the goal features would cause the animal suffering.
@@Devin_Stromgren
Exactly!
Screw the ethics I wanna boop the snoot of a pet Dino And no god can stop me!!!
"Living-Biological Attraction"
Isn't that basically what a celebrity is?
In a nutshell; yea.
Yes, but with the difference that they weren't "made"
@Fuck Google and Facebook for tracking me k
@@parden3743 Granted, but why did the words "Botox" & "Silicon" just pop into my mind?
"Before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you’re selling it, you want to sell it."
Yes i want dino-chicken
The Chickensaurus is the project that inspired the Indominous Rex isn't it. This man is literally John Hammond down to his look, all that's missing is a piece of amber on his cane.
I doubt Disney had the presence of mind to critique the Chickenosaurus project when they were making Jurassic World. Those films were written to be pure money-milkers and offer nothing in the way of intelligent commentary.
“Oh boy it’s 2020 I can’t wait for my chickenosaurus!”
[Coronavirus]
“Aww”
Coronasaurus
AIDEN the psycho AI well u got something
I want a 🧑🏻🐻🐷. 😂😂😂
Baby Yoda what the
I want to taste one. I don't GAF about feeling one, I just want to eat it.
Screw a dino-chicken, if we want it to be truly impressive we need to make a dino-emu. They're already basically dinosaurs anyway.
We could try a cassowary but, really, I'm not confident that any laboratory could contain it.
Dino Cassowary
@@ItsButterBean1020 u mean Dinowary?
That’s what I was thinking 😂
D I N O S H O E B I L L
“You were so caught up with whether or not you could, you never stopped and wondered whether or not you should”
You good sir have earned a subscribe for the mentioning of the oft forgotten catboys, please make it happen. Have a good day.
10:33
*BREAKING NEWS*
*Funds for the Chickensaurus project were all transferred to "Project: Catgirls"*
Elon Musk would be proud
Obviously the correct choice!
Ooooooooohhhhh that's how Cool Cat exists
Cat with human ears is clearly a better idea, come on people.
But we would need to modify thirty two individual muscles for cat ears
It's like the joke...
What do you get if you cross a cow with an octopus?
Immediate withdrawal of funding, and a visit from the Ethics Committee
If you manage to cross a mammal with a mollusc you're winning the Nobel Prize.
An octopus that produces milk instead of ink
A Cow that can milk itself?
@@zebradun7407 what about a genetically altered pickle that can rick itself?
a cocktopus
I would absolutely love to watch a full-length video about someone considered "The Tiger King of Paleontology".
That sounds like a wild, chaotic fun flume of a tale and I would want to be all in on it.
I like the animation for your opening scene you know it would be more exciting if you add the Dippersaurus twin sister "The Mabelsaurus".
But if you were opening scene the Dippersaurus will do the chalkboard while Mabelsaurus did some decorating with glitter.
Ethical?: No
Cool?: Hell yeah
Bigfoot Fighter not ethically made epically made
Ethics should never get involved in science. We need Dino-chicken for awesome pets.
@@jacobsockness571
"Ethics should never get involved in science." - Josef Mengele 1944
Even from an ethical P.O.V there's a good chance the chicken will feel fine, the only way the project can turn out negatively for the chicken is if mutations occur but since this is a first time project, mutations indeed are likely but mutations need not always be bad, most mutations don't affect organisms much so there's a small chance that a major mutation can take place and the chicken does suffer. If a mutation does not occur the chicken will live life normally as no changes would be made to the existing organs or organ systems, I don't think it's unethical if the chicken is not hurt.
@@DioBrando-yk5up What even are you to me
My favorite part was when he asked, "Should we create animals for our entertainment." While putting a picture of a flipping pug in the back ground haha
It’s a good question. Pugs are foul abominations that humans bred for our amusement and enjoyment with no regard for the animal. Why not a Dino chicken.
@@darrylwayne1292 exactly I personally feet bad for pugs even though I personally don't think there ugly. There flattend snounts can cause serious health problems yet people still say look at the dumb ugly animal. We made it that way.
People created something ugly and think it's cute
@@introvertion6460 yeah
@@introvertion6460 it's not cute, it's funny, people love to laugh at ugly people
I feel like Mammoths or Thylacines or Dodos are the first creatures we should recreate. Not as some way to disprove someone or play god but maybe as a way to acknowledge our influence on the earth’s biosphere and work to make our impact beneficial over destructive. Bringing back recently extinct species could acknowledge our awareness and sort of prove our separation from the idea that we are a violent invasive species that kills everything we make contact with.
Super fair analysis. Really enjoyed this!!
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they should that they didn't stop to think if they could."
- Me, just now.
It's the opposite XD
Your scientists were so preoccupied with wether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
Well, of course in real life, there's low chances that our scientific hubris came back to destroy us XD
@@krankarvolund7771 I think you missed the joke
@@krankarvolund7771 low... The problem is what people does with science, and what scientists allow people to do. And by that I mean that sometimes things shall stay unknown, if humanity isn't ready. Wait, not unknown, as we know consequences of many things by now. Scientists has already tried much of those stuff, as Trey rightfully stated. Is just that some things are pointless to do, you would just create monstruocities for no other purpose than see what you already know it is wrong. And if you don't know it is, go check old experiments and stuff. Life is something very delicate to deal with, it is just finally the time scientists are going to use more their brain on what they do before they do it, instead of having to always find out what they've done is damn bad after they've done it
@@krankarvolund7771 They weren't trying to make the quote from Ian Malcom. They were saying that scientists, instead of just going ahead with something that poses little to no threat, think about if the should do it. This has been an official r/woosh moment
I swear that quote will never be irrelevant.
I’m pretty sure I can speak for a vast majority of people when I say Jack and his team should just stop beating around the bush do what we all are thinking: use cassowaries instead of chickens.
Come on scientific community, what are you? Chicken? Oh wait...
Why cant we just use geese?
@@dirandrous7682 We have the same problem there as with cassowaries, just smaller with webbed feet.
@Jeremiah Olson same
I like how you think my guy
What abt emus
Bro thank you so much for the sick band name "Serpentized"
I am so glad i found your page. Everything is thought out and i love that you have a scientific background
Imagine the future, Robots fighting Catgirls riding Dinosaur-chickens
i was born in the wrong generation
The robots will cleanse the earth of GMOs
God would have indeed given up
*Terminator 2 theme playing*
dont forget the snakemice and mammoths , or the human chimps.
Expectation: Raptor
Reality: Weird deformed chicken.
Prehistoric dinosaur: Gallimimus(Chicken mimic)
Horner mutant poultry: Mimigallus(mimic chicken?)
I mean chickens are maniraptors so Success!
Velociraptors were much like chickens, even in size
ohhh only the first couple. Version 2.0 will look cool and taste great fried. Colonel Sanders is gonna love chickens you dont have to pluck before you cook them.
@@syedmuhammadkhan I'd say that's, like, one of the only apt comparisons between the two lol
17:53 - Thanks for talking about this subject. Most people either steer clear of this topic publicly or just default to the opinion that it's not something even worthy of thought somehow and I think that's really unfortunate.
OMG I just tested positive for BRCA-1 and had extensive removal surgery remove the affected tissues. In listening to this video while 6weeks into recovery! It was cool to hear about it at such a time!
Pros: bigger KFC
Cons: IRRELEVANT
Con: none
@@selenajarv8763 ok... 1 con... I would buy/breed WAY to many...
@@theeggman1199 same tbh
I dont go to kfc but same
Ostriches: _Sighes, then buries heads back into holes_
Gallusaurus would be a more accurate name, given the domestic chicken’s scientific name is Gallus gallus domesticus.
Galli.... gallimimus!
Extreme Madness Are those meat eating...uh...Meatasauruses
Dr Bright that actually sounds a lot better and more accurate. I hope that’s the name they go with once it hatches.
I trust this man because he probably has one in his labs on site 19
That is actually a really good name for it. Scientific, and cool
I think we can draw a fairly clear and simple line in the sand. So long as it's possible to breed an animal that can live a feasibly torment-free existence and is capable enough to at least be able to attempt to live on its own, we are clear for chickensaurus.
Agreed
If it can live without human assistance it's already better than the normal domestic chickens
On the slice about GMOs, the term has always bugged me since, every time we reproduce, we’re kind of genetically modifying ourselves. But the agricultural modifications we’ve made genetically alter our food. 🤷🏼♀️ it’s always seemed like a redundant phrase.
As a wise man once said "a totally useless idea, but a damn fine one." Thats my take on the project
Its far worse than being just useless... but i that is indeed a damn fine quote
It is unnecessary but interesting.
@Caca I am the doctor
the rest is self explainitory
@Caca what is that profile pic
@@ZhiZhemini i mean maybe non unnecessary, it could help us know more about dinosaur biology
I just want a movie where they have feathers for once
Walking with dinosaur?!
fatmelon jurassic park's dinosaurs were always too big for their actual size
And the t rex skull aint accurate the jaw needs to be a bit thinner
And the hands were pronated in a wrong way
So i wouldnt say it was accurate for its time because we already knew this stuff
@@xanderomeister7828 most of the jp dinosaur was pretty much scaly tho,trex had protofeather covering its back but most of their body was covered in scale.yeah,they had 2 fully feathered dinosaur which is gallimimus and velociraptor and screwed it up real bad but most of their dinosaur was accurate scaly-wise.
Well it's not a movie but you can check the game prehistoric kingdom it features really cool more scientifically accurate prehistoric creatures and is in general a really awesome park/zoo builder game to check out!!!
That must be tougher to render and animate
Huh. Big jack horner musta moved on from magic item collecting to dinosaurs. Cool
I did a small research proposal project in a developmental genetics class and thought the Dino-chicken was a neat idea but not really plausible for so many reasons. Cool to know you work with a place that was kinda involved in this project!
Why do it with a chicken, why not a turkey? You know, for dramatic effect
Or emus.
no no no nope ,, Emus defeated the Australian Artillery without a Dinosaur buff
Humans are supposed to survive this after all
chickens are like really common like 23700000000 chickens common
No, no, no, you're all wrong... What we need? Isa *Cassowarisaurus*. Or a Cassoraptor. Cassowaries are terrifying, and are already very dangerous and territorial in the wild. Imaging making them *more* lethal!
@@svon1 pretty sure a strafing from an A10 warthog or two would wipe them out
Why not a turkey?
Why not cross a turkey with a dinosaur ?
Well judging by the majority of recent American presidents I strongly suspect that it's already been done.
Me: "Direct genetic manipulation is comparable to opening Pandora's Box-we're probably gonna regret it."
Also Me: "Dinosaurs and cat girls are by all means worthy of pursuing."
I pretty much feel the same, personally.
Especially the cat girls. Mmm, cat girls... lol. xD
Why not dinosaur girls?
@@drsharkboy6568 SpaceX: _"Write that down! Write that down!..."_
My question is, would the cat girls have human rights? Because if so then any weeb probably wouldn't be able to get into a relationship with one anyway.
What we expect: Cute cat girls.
Reality: The Island Of Dr Moreau.
0:34 when u smell that zaza
I’d love to see a chicken Rex, but I’m firmly on the side of it having more risk than reward. Though How to Build a Dinosaur is genuinely an interesting read. I read it at 13 and still find it fascinating nearly a decade later.
What fucking risk?
We can make real Dino-Nuggets from them, so yeah, do it
Eat your Cereal
Or create a Ecosphere full of Neo-Dinos
Chickens are dinosaurs. You can already get dino nuggets.
@Techo The cat wtf
Heck yeah , the real deal dino-nuggets
"(catgirls) must be proven safe and efficient for its(their) intended use"
-FDA regulations
i sure hope they are
😳
Its time
Why do I get the feeling real life cat girls will look the characters in cats
@@maxthechosen1132 thats the beauty, with CRISPR we can add and subtract features as we like, like facial hair density and such
@@gewuerzwanze5627 the future
@Caesar The Infamous not catboys only catgirls
If ethics is the only real barrier besides time. I would argue that we should go on and consider it done, because we have never been very good with the ethics thing. At the point that we are very likely going to modify things anyway to help adapt, or for other reasons.
10:37 you see, this is one of the main reasons I love TREY, he's a cultured man
Genetically engineered cat girls would, funny enough, be technically classified as a person in the US (Amendment 14, Section 1, Equal Protection Clause)
but the supreme court stated that XMEN are not humans
that clause refers to persons, catgirls wouldnt be people, but domestic animals. Hence they dont get the protection.
I'm still confused over what a genetically modified catgirl would even really be. Like, you take the cat genes and you make a person with a furry tail and head-ears, I guess? But this isn't anime, it's real life, so you've basically just taken a normal person and made them completely different without their permission for what? Just to get a tail and do something that can be accomplished with some bangs and a $20 cosplay hairband.
It's like, there are pretty glaring concerns to be had with turning someone into a fetishized fantasy race against their will.
Please, god.... not the cat girls....
@@dracocrusher 1 - they would be newly born. people don't have a say with regards to being born.
2 - the most concerning part is the deformation of the skull and the new shape of the brain due to the ears being in a different place. it most likely would turn up to be some kind of lion looking monstrous abomination, like in the movies when they say "they used human DNA" (the creature comes to mind, which was a dolphin-shark hydrid with human DNA, and jurassic park).
"should we create a dino-"
everyone: yes
i would bring them back if i could but I cant
Even after watching all the jurassic park films or any scientist for that matter I still say yes
I know Jurassic Park isn't the most scientifically accurate movie out there but what that Ian guy said was right: dinosaurs are probably not suitable for today's ecosystem. If we do bring back a dino we shouldn't bring more than one back. Also im scared of dinos
@@manmoy4104 The dinosaurs can wipe out every existing Cenozoic animal
but like according to jurassic park everytime you create dinosaurs it completely destroys the multiverse.
1:49 really cool. What kind of genetic stuff do you do? Make animals glow in the dark? Or try to see how t splice genes? Or do you try to figure out how to make crops less dependent on water and more resilient against cold and diseases?
To Horner, I propose this: solve world hunger with all of the edible wild flora on this earth, undo the mass damage we’ve done to our canine companions, work to make sure CRISPR will be able to solve human genetic faults at an affordable price for the masses, and solve deforestation with or w/o genetic sciences.
These things can be done. They’ll be difficult as all get out yet will provide enough progress to offset the new damage we’ll be doing when we make chimeras for our amusement. We’ve caused so many problems in the world that we need to choose our battles carefully.
Teaching anti-environmentalists to recycle and be mindful about their actions isn’t difficult, just time consuming; There are more than three-dozen reasons to be environmentally friendly versus its opposition. The same goes for nuclear power when its properly regulated, something we can ensure now that we’ve made so much progress! Undoing the damage to our canine companions would be as simple as neutering and spaying all agony-laced breeds to the best of our abilities, letting the less screwed breeds mingle and create mutts. Time-consuming and a hassle, it’s worth it in the end when you consider how many dogs suffer at the hands of no one but their own anatomical faults. Solving world hunger, according to numerous wilderness enthusiasts and botanists, isn’t nearly as difficult as it seems since there are hundreds of wild plants which are edible & nutritionally sound compared to our meat-based self-fattening. Farming insects for meat would simultaneously solve said problem, rewarding us with *so much more* for *so much less* . Tedious and frustrating, they’d be an excellent place to solve other issues in our world. I’ve no real way to outline a solution for CRISPR’s ensured availability to the public, honestly. All I know is that someone with worthless cash is gonna find a way to start swinging the FDA away from helping people with it. Reforestation, meanwhile, could very well be rectified with specially bred trees which grow faster and consume more CO2-we know it can be done given how drastically we’ve changed our consumable plants & our companion animals!
When these four things are done...when these four major problems have been solved, I’ll give this project my Okay so I can watch it crash and burn...leaving a whole new issue up for handling...
Emus, Ostriches, and Cassowary: "Are we a joke to you people?" 😆
I would prefer to modify a Cassowary, NOT A CHICKEN
@@gabrielf.ferreira9132 God no! Those things are deadly as it is!
a chicken is way less likely to kill you.
emus? those guys won a war.
Yes, yes they are.
Bro how about a Turkey? *_*
"Or cat boys"
Ah, I see Trey the Explainer. You are a man of culture as well
Serving up that fujoshi realness, wait, what are male fans of yaoi called?
@@tshred666 fudanshi
👌
A wise sir
@@tshred666 I think you are just gay or bi secretly 😂😂
There's already cassowaries, shoe bills, monkey eating eagle, Crocs and large ahh komodo dragon FUCKING around
Makes me think of the old joke about Kentucky-fried-octopus: "Everyone gets a drumstick!"
"The genetic monstrosity that is the pug" 😂 😂 😂
"Look how cute it is!"
*Pug struggling to breath and see*
@@shaggyspade2468 I don't even see the cuteness in a pug. Like, even if they didn't suffer from all their malformations, I find them ugly as fuck. Looking like a cartoon that just got hit in the face by a frying pan.
Now a wolf, that's a beautiful animal right there.
Look how long ago that was
Fact
Ugliest footballs ive ever seen.
what about mammoths? they promised me mammoths
Indeed. I refuse to leave this earth before I've ridden a mammoth.
It is impossible to create a pure mammoth, sorry but that's the truth.
@@christopherdinoguy8346 yes it is possible. If gametes are genetically modified(or changed in some other ways), an elephant will birth a mammoth
The russians working on Paleocene Park are already on it to bringing back certain ice age mammals. It includes the mammoth.
@@veneficus582
It will still be half an elephant as it will still inherit some genes of it's mother, plus since mutations are very likely it'll probably be deformed.
I remember meeting Jack Horner when I lived in Montana, my 3rd grade class went to a dig in Choteau, MT.
Alternative title: should we make Jurassic park a reality even though we know how that can definitely go wrong?
I think trying to bring back a terror bird is the real move. THATS a dinosaur within our reach
Imagine genetically-engineered predatory emus
@@cobinasaur remake sarckosuchus and meglania
But do we have any living relative or descendants of the Terror Bird.
Well the living members of the ratite family probably have a few suitable species we could start from (like the cassowary, emu, ostrich ect), go back one generation at a time taking it relatively slowly to allow for more successful results, I believe it could work
Ghost 7132 there is the seriemas the only surviving relatives of the terror birds
The fact that he didn’t start with an ostrich so we get JP-sized “dinosaur” is the lamest part
imean, tbh that's more dangerous, and Velociraptors in real life were no where near that size. More like a normal to smallish dog (like a poodle).
To be fair, I would imagine the life cycle of a chicken is much shorter than an ostrich, so it could be more practical for a scientist to start with that organism first.
Yeah. That doesn't sound like a good plan for your first run.
Ostriches are dangerous enough as is.
Why would he start with an Ostrich? We're still at the experimental stage. A chicken is cheap and can grow to maturity in a matter of months. Suppose his Chickenosaurus project succeeds, then he can move on to an ostrich.
love your content! pls make more vids like these
What a great topic, it's for a truly interesting discussion about the ethics
“We shouldn’t do this it’s unethical to chickens!”
-Eats Chicken-
yeh but, killing a chicken still sounds a lil less sadist than mutating one into a monstrosity IMHO
And luckily you're vegan
@@rubenb8653 Why? i get it if the chicken suffers, but why does the chicken care if she looks monstruous. If the chicken doesn't suffer and the "failed attempts" are ended without suffering of the animal, why is it sadist??
@@rubenb8653 well even if it's less sadist it still is sadist (by the logic of your statement only)
@@youngspinach you eat the chicken, in a world where people are hungry you can be sure that we need the chickens to survive, we don't need a dino chicken
"Director of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace" I laughed way too hard at that.
When he mentioned that one movie instead of the whole franchise. "It's like poetry, it rhymes"
Didn’t they make a South Park episode about this guy
Good animation at the start!
“Science isn’t about why, it’s about why not!” -Cave Johnson
"So everybody grab a gun and kill some mantis men"
"When Life gives you lemons you make life take them back"
Read jurassic park... it preaches exactly the opposite of that line of thinking.
Cool name
I owned a pug and I really cant explain I felt like an asshole I felt like this being could have such an easier time you can hear them having trouble breathing over the most minute thing it's kinda depressing
At least you realised it, most people don´t...
dont breed pugs! just let them all die
@@kevinthiago413 or mix them with other species. E.g. beagles.
I didnt quite realize how many chimera have already been pumped out onto the consumer market.
So I have a chicken who has some muscle or tendon issue and for a while it couldn't walk, after 5-6 months of therapy and care it started walking again, but it started walking only on its tippy toes, totally looks like how T Rex would walk.
Jack Horner: yea imma make a dinosaur pretty soon lol
Trey: *SNAKE MICE*
_Snice_
Or at least one _Snouse_
Oh Trey the Explainer, could you allow this humble viewer to subtitle your old videos like the Beast of Gévaudan so I can show it to my mates and people around the world can show it to their mates that too, like mine, do not understand the english language?
Thanks in advance, oh mighty Trey the Enabler of Subtitles.
Oh and nice intro animation, so cute!
I thought this would be a silly fun video, but it was a lot more. Really interesting, I'm not sure too what to think about all this.
just as an aside, the technique for making a goat into a "unicorn" by surgically fusing their horn buds together as infants was pioneered by a dude named Oberon Zell-Ravenheart in the 1970s, he's also a self-proclaimed wizard and wears robes and shit everywhere he goes
pros and cons of gen spilcing.
pros : CAT GIRLS
cons : none.
I want to see real life cat girls, despite ethics thrown out the window as. I want to see a legitimate real life anime trope. Though if people would want to pound Cat Girls, would it be unethical as Bestiality or the lack of consent?
@@MaoRatto
It depends on what elon says
@@MaoRatto Bestiality is not unethical. People just have a disgust response, no good ethical reasons against it.
@@coz. Asking the real questions
See: Red Dwarf.
"should we create a dino-chicken?"
the answer is clearly yes, but we do need to treat it ethically once we've done it. We don't wanna Malcolm it, after all
Malcom?
What do you mean by Malcolm?
Jurassic park, guys. Ian Malcolm played by Jeff Goldblum
Raithial you mean Hammond? Cause Malcom wanted them to be respected
Ethically, like the chickens and other birds we eat ? OK
That intro looks neat.
Its a great video like all of yours I've seen and i appreciate hearing both sides but I think it would have been a better idea to hear arguments why they're unethical or why not. Because just saying some people think its unethical doesn't mean much if we don't understand the reasoning for it. Hope to continue seeing more vids from ya dude best wishes. :)
"The only reason anyone would do this, which they can't, would be because they could, which they can't."
Rick Sanchez on the topic of dino-chicken
so when are you going to school us in genetic engineering. you expert status is obvious.
Why can’t we just clone a damn mammoth or saber tooth cat.
Both are way easier to clone since like Trey says, their D.N.A is much more intact.
Mammoth Meat
Release them into Siberia to revitalize the ecosystem
Yeah plus it would help bio diversity
I’m curious to when the thylacine will be brought back too.
short answer: shit's hard
I think this project would have loads of learning opportunities for genetic engineering. It would have nothing to do with paleontology, but if discovery is the only thing that matters then I think reactivating chicken genes is a fine experiment to explore this relatively new field of science.
Chicken: Who are you?
Chickenosaurus: I'm you but stronger.
"Is it ethical to create an animal that will live a life of pain and suffering?"
Let's ask the boomers. They have more experience doing it than anyone else.
PolySaken why not both
Is it ethical to enjoy the tears of a Snowflake?..Ahhhh..Yesssss....
@PolySaken lol if gen x is suffering they only have themselves to blame poor pugs wheezing creepy ass dogs
@@mr.angryman3599 yes poor pugs...
Dam that was savage
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should"
This
The problem is that Malcom is seen as being full of himself when his chaos "theory" is as humble as it gets.
I have always disagreed with that. we can find a way to make this world more beautiful. dr malcolm can go to hell
@@VictorianTimeTraveler i dont think a chickensaurus would make this world any more beautiful.
@HempMasterNinja You probably are just mad because Dr. Malcolm advocates that the Dino's in Fallen Kingdom 2 - I am NOT putting Jurassic in front of that because that would just insult Jurassic Park l which was a fucking classic - should die when Isla Nublar's volcano wipes out the island. And I agree with that. EVERYTIME dinos and humans were " thrown back into the mix" countless people were killed or eaten, because Hammond wanted to give people something amazing that was real, that they could touch etc. And what happens? Oh people start either try to poach these constructs for two other parks or they are twice attempted to be use their DNA to make worse monstrous killing machines. And then a cloned CHILD was like there like me, clones, I'm going to let them live and releases breading dinos on North America So tell me how that's beautiful for the world when they are now the new Alpha predators replacing us on the food chain ?
Frankenstein dogs!!! LOL - nice video.
If they’re going to put DNA from another animal into a chicken to give it a tail, they’re just redoing Jurassic park where they filled the gaps with frog dna (because that makes so much sense)
When you mentioned a mini elephant as an example of novelty animals I remembered that a mini elephant appeared in Jurassic park as a Ingen fundraiser! Nice reference. Keep up the cool cat content.
oh my god that animation in the beginning was gold
My dog is actually a hybrid between chihuahua and pincher and it have a lot of health problem and sometimes is a lot aggressive and sometime he make people cuddle him but is never very safe
Honestly, there are already some chicken breeds that look extremely dinosaur-like. (Example Dong Tao)
That isn't a chicken or a dino
That's a recipe for arthritis
That is only a few steps down from a pug.
Holy shit I hate it.
Trey: WE SHOULD NOT DO THIS!
Also Trey: Here's their donation link :)
@zany music nl but if there's only 2 that means every descendant would have to be inbred. That would reverse all the genetic breeding.
I think the point of this video was not just the opinion, but to question all of the things he implored us to question. Are the already modified organisms we've made ethical? And what constitutes what is ethical to us and what is not? And he ends the video pretty open-mindedly, too -- "perhaps you can convince me otherwise."
I appreciate that!
I think it is very considerate of him. He puts down all the information and lets us decide for ourselves. It's also respectful towards Jack Horner, even if Trey disagrees with him.
@@rokukouexactly. this guy us amazing. im normally only mildly interested in the topics he speaks on, but hes so enjoyable to listen to, ive been learning so much about dinosaurs and the bible and the related sciences lmao
Fun fact: The first de-extinction attempt was carried out in Germany in the 30's. It was an attempt to bring back aurochs
That had a completely different methodology though, it was basically just taking the biggest, beefiest, meanest cows in the world, getting them to fuck and seeing what happened. In fact it's a still ongoing experiment as the Pleistocene Park in Russia and several smaller rewildening projects have proven the current Eurasian ecosystems are missing a large herbivore grazer because we, humans killed them all. Rebreeding cows back into Aurochs and reintroducing them could have a ripple effect on the landscapes they're reintroduced to. Just look at the Pleistocene Park, what was once barren tundra has now become grasslands under the influence of the large grazers they've reintroduced.
Wasn't it "succesfull", atleast they got what they wanted, and they where only made because Göring (head of the German Airforce) wanted to feel like Ceaser, and they where Nazis so there is that
Zlovenski_Človečnjak l
@@124Andro we have learned so much about genetics in the past 80 years. I think that de-extincting some of the megafauna that we may have had a hand in pushing over the edge is a noble endeavor.
Ironic
Those “chair dogs” 22:05 remind me of the monstrosities that the Q turned mankind into in All Tomorrows
I think our tendency of applying ethics unevenly needs some questioning