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  • @automobilistic
    @automobilistic  Рік тому +151

    Full Story is an automobilistic series with each video containing all previous videos on a single topic, compiled into a single marathon video. There is only small amounts of new content so no, its not deja vu, you may well have seen some of it before. I hope you enjoy nonetheless!

    • @stevenkelby2169
      @stevenkelby2169 Рік тому +5

      Don't change a thing! You're hilarious and creative.
      Thank you for these gifts!

    • @gerwinterharmsel3626
      @gerwinterharmsel3626 Рік тому +3

      As much as i like the shorter ones, i do like the longer and comprehensive video's. In short: i'll watch everything you post. Love the content. Keep it up. 👍🏻

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter Рік тому +1

      Love your work!

  • @sebastianahrens2385
    @sebastianahrens2385 Рік тому +199

    It's so sad to see Lancia nowadays, just a shell of their former self. Many manufacturers have left their mark on Rally, but to me, Lancia stands above them all.

    • @perfectman3077
      @perfectman3077 Рік тому +3

      Above Subaru?!?

    • @Metallurge
      @Metallurge Рік тому +29

      @@perfectman3077what Subaru did in the 90s and 2000s, Lancia paved the way for in the 70s and 80s, group B most notably.

    • @perfectman3077
      @perfectman3077 Рік тому +1

      @@Metallurge The Impreza is so amazing though. The Delta is a bit boring in comparison.

    • @caledonianrailway1233
      @caledonianrailway1233 Рік тому

      @@perfectman3077yes

    • @sebastianahrens2385
      @sebastianahrens2385 Рік тому +28

      @@perfectman3077 The Impreza is a great car for sure, and a Rally icon, but the Delta would go on to dominate the sport like no other car before or since. And then there's the magnificent 037, the only rear wheel driven car to ever win a championship against a field of four wheel drives. An achievement to which the Rally God Walter Röhrl himself would make a significant contribution. He later stated that the car felt as fitting as a shoe, and that if he thought about driving a section, the car had already done it. I can hardly imagine a higher praise.

  • @mioszantas4462
    @mioszantas4462 Рік тому +130

    Lancia got quite a legacy with them, it's a shame they haven't mad any "fun" cars in a while now

    • @theant9821
      @theant9821 Рік тому +39

      Lancia was the then struggling Fiat groups sacrificial lamb, in order to justify saving Alfa Romeo, which inherited much of Lancias best bits, like the motorsport team etc. Who were merged into Alfa Romeos own motorsport department and created the 155 dtm.
      The Lancia name may only be an echo of the past but some of its spirit carried over into Alfa Romeo atleast.

    • @asdqwe_9381
      @asdqwe_9381 Рік тому +1

      they havent even made any cars

    • @epicvipes1723
      @epicvipes1723 Місяць тому

      Boy do i have news for you! Lol

  • @bobibest89
    @bobibest89 11 місяців тому +2

    5:18 How the hell this car took those corners??? Absolutely unbelievable.

  • @robertrishel3685
    @robertrishel3685 Рік тому +10

    Oh man, that 037, just 😍😍😍 to me it’s the perfect car in every way.

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 6 місяців тому +1

      With a hitch and trailer, it is.

    • @jamesrobert4106
      @jamesrobert4106 Місяць тому

      Agreed. With Martini livery, it is one of the greatest cars ever made.

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh7544 Рік тому +30

    I was 14 when Henkka and Sergio died. We had so manty great pilots, Alen, Vatanen, Kankkunen, Mikkola, Salonen.... but Henri was my hero. I saw group b cars live when I was a kid

  • @gapistan2335
    @gapistan2335 Рік тому +45

    What a legendary manufacturer the gran tour segment of the 037 by Clarkson is always something I got back to an amazing story

  • @TamTran-vw7zm
    @TamTran-vw7zm Рік тому +7

    I was on s rallye team of Datsun 510s, at Press On Regardless, when the 1st, marlboro liveried stratos showed up. Next to out chest high cars the knee high Stratos looked like a spaceship! That year they had just won the Ridieu Lakes Canadian rallye, but something electrical let them down in Michigan. Still, I was in love--and have loved all things Lancia ever since. Thank you for this.

  • @edh7492
    @edh7492 Рік тому +54

    Your choice of subject matter for your videos shows a certain level of culture that few people of your age have. Top work my good man 👌

  • @Nightmaretyrant
    @Nightmaretyrant Рік тому +9

    The most impressive thing about Lancia and the Alfa DTM team was Sergio Limone admitting they had only a fraction of the budget their competitors had, also tons of the " smaller race parts " were just road car bits taken from the Fiat line up because development had to be reserved for big stuff.

  • @louiandrews7
    @louiandrews7 Рік тому +11

    20:44 always hits hard it's shows that this was a statement of people going to far to be the best not matter what it means for safety

  • @hugoagogo9435
    @hugoagogo9435 Рік тому +8

    I was a huge lancia fan from 87. Lancia rally and Ferrari f1. Still supporting Ferrari for my sins and desperately want to see Lancia back where they belong.

  • @driver46
    @driver46 Рік тому +4

    Very nice video , Lancia was really the biggest legend of rally racing. Those Martini Racing colors will stay with me for my whole life due to Lancia rally team .

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 7 місяців тому

      The Porsche factory backed Martini team had just as much/more success then Lanica. Both automakers own those colors more then Ford, lotus, Alfa who also wore the strip.

  • @christycullen2355
    @christycullen2355 Рік тому +7

    Your production levels are crazy. You tell one hell of a story

  • @bernardoberner4
    @bernardoberner4 Рік тому +2

    You asked for feedback? Didn't watch the video yet but already want more, your "short" videos are already so good, the long ones will be even better

  • @reisling664
    @reisling664 Рік тому +4

    These thumbnails are cool af

  • @stephencain3467
    @stephencain3467 Рік тому

    Man I absolutely love your videos it’s like you took the absolute most forgotten automotive gems of the past and add all GT elevator music absolute classic

  • @Kevwa51
    @Kevwa51 Рік тому +4

    This experiment worked, at least for me. Keep this format it’s perfect.

  • @1982valeriu
    @1982valeriu Рік тому +2

    Great video yet again, mate! I was 6 or 7 at the end of the '80s, and I still remember that Martini Delta in a large centerfold picture of "Autoturism" (Romania's then car enthusiast magazine) - loved that car ever since!

  • @alexshank1414
    @alexshank1414 Рік тому +17

    I think the Peugeot 205 T16 was showing it’s championship winning potential, with a small commercial hatchback car(homologation) plus a powerful mid engine layout & 4wd, that Lancia decided to go down that route.

    • @rmamon2554
      @rmamon2554 Рік тому +1

      205 T16 you forgot the 4x4 its also in its name. Joan Todt wanted all its features in it's Name. And what a world beater this thing was. 2 Drivers Championships + 2 Constructors Championships, small, endlessly nimble, and more power than a Cosworth F1 Engine. And if I say small, I mean it 205: 3,70m Delta: 4m Audi S1: 4,16m. My only love this car.

    • @davidvitan3590
      @davidvitan3590 Рік тому +1

      The "commercial" 205 was NOT the homologation version of the T16. As with all other Group B cars, there were 200 road-going mid-engined cars that were sold to the public.

    • @alexshank1414
      @alexshank1414 Рік тому

      You’re both right. It was just a broad scope of the car. Basic layout. My bad for not being diligent enough on the fine specifics.

    • @davidvitan3590
      @davidvitan3590 Рік тому +1

      ​@@alexshank1414the 205 t16 was a prototype race car that shared absolutely nothing with the regular 205. The Audi was literally the only one of the top group b cars that was based on an actual, mass produced road car (hence why it had the engine in the front)

    • @alexshank1414
      @alexshank1414 Рік тому

      @@davidvitan3590 Breakin’ my balls. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @epicseadragon1692
    @epicseadragon1692 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video! It took me more time to take the time to watch it, but I will still watch those if you keep making them! Keep up the good work!

  • @ciliberti96
    @ciliberti96 Рік тому +1

    One of the best automotive content on the platform. Keep up the good work!
    I would love to hear the history of LeMans

  • @Pjb93
    @Pjb93 Рік тому +2

    Incredible mate you are the best out there. Thanks as always. Still on my "watched every second you've uploaded" streak. Would love to see a Subaru Mitsubishi rivalry video!

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg7843 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this wonderful video! Again, amazing footage and excellent research.

  • @Ottobon
    @Ottobon Рік тому

    i dont know if its better or worse to label things as such these days but its practically a podcast, love it

  • @lilhaxxor
    @lilhaxxor Рік тому +1

    I just love the way you told the story. Thanks. ❤

  • @berserkfuryyy6798
    @berserkfuryyy6798 Рік тому +3

    I love the long format videos.

  • @BigDumbMeRC
    @BigDumbMeRC Рік тому +3

    Love this larger combined video. Thank you for all the work you put into this

  • @miaouew
    @miaouew Рік тому +4

    I will NEVER understand why Rally didn't take off here in America. It's got everything

  • @magibagi3881
    @magibagi3881 Рік тому +8

    Who makes your thumbnails? They look amazing, would love to see them as posters or merch!

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  Рік тому +16

      I make them myself - it takes ages! Maybe there will be posters in the future...

    • @sebastianahrens2385
      @sebastianahrens2385 Рік тому +4

      @@automobilistic The investment of time shows, they're simply awesome. Thank you for putting in the effort!

  • @phillipstewart2031
    @phillipstewart2031 Рік тому +3

    Deserves more subs unreal

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh7544 Рік тому +2

    I recon it was Saby who drove past accident, and shortly after turned his car around and drove on to oncoming traffic, one of the biggest no no`s in the sport. You can see him standing next to a fire with his helmet on 20:56

  • @MachineintheMonkey
    @MachineintheMonkey Рік тому +2

    I thought I’d seen every bit of footage of group b but the red 037 video is new to me and bloody awesome! I wonder if Sir Walter was at the wheel.

  • @ReboyGTR
    @ReboyGTR Рік тому +4

    *I would love to see a video on the Audi Quattro.*

  • @boneo_the_muso3493
    @boneo_the_muso3493 Місяць тому

    17:50 You forget the moral it will give the ppl that are sending their loved ones to war that they will not sacrifice everything and their family name and legacy will carry on. xx That's massive imo xxxxxxxx

  • @mr.highground9566
    @mr.highground9566 Рік тому +3

    Love your videos bro!

  • @DMC_Motorsports
    @DMC_Motorsports Рік тому +1

    Lancia, one of the greatest car brands to ever exist, the all time best manufacturer in rally (fight me if you disagree) ita such a shame how it's fallen from grace but theor history will forever be known

  • @AutySim
    @AutySim Рік тому +3

    Superb as usual.

  • @FCT8306onTwoWheels
    @FCT8306onTwoWheels Рік тому

    This video is great :) stuff of dreams those Lancia group B rally cars were. Looking sharp with the shades and fit

  • @kozi1918
    @kozi1918 Рік тому +3

    I really love these rally videos, but I do miss the ones you made on DTM and 90s Group C prototype era, please make some more! If you plan to make more rally videos, I would love to see some footage from the other side of the iron curtain. There isn't much but I would love for you to go deeper into group B subclasses, where cars like Ladas or Skodas often competed. Cheers!

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  Рік тому +2

      More niche rally stuff would definitely be interesting. RE: DTM and Group C - I released a Group C video just 4 days ago! And I definitely plan on covering more DTM in future too

  • @themrwinston9570
    @themrwinston9570 Рік тому

    8:21 my ears are ringing. preserving nostalgia is genuinely super cool, but im pretty sure nobody's asking to be reminded of the way their CRT would hiss at them. i couldn't focus on a word you said the whole time this clip was playing.

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  Рік тому +1

      apologies! I clearly need some new headphones because I didn't pick that up while editing - thanks for letting me know

    • @themrwinston9570
      @themrwinston9570 Рік тому

      @@automobilistic ❤️

  • @laletraf5568
    @laletraf5568 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Can you make a video about the Pescarolo Sport C60?

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  Рік тому +2

      Would love to cover Pescarolo - I'll get to it eventually!

  • @noahcaroppo6264
    @noahcaroppo6264 Рік тому

    Quality video mate, surprised by the low view count

  • @JohnCharb87
    @JohnCharb87 Рік тому +2

    Cool. I notice your new subscribe emblem with orange shades on black background. Eye catching.

  • @iannplifier
    @iannplifier Рік тому +2

    My favorite motorsport source

  • @jhypyro
    @jhypyro Рік тому +2

    Man, I love lancia.

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg7843 Рік тому +3

    Just pointing out: In the 1987 Rally New Zealand Possum Bourne came third driving a Turbo 4WD Subaru Leone RX, scoring Subaru's first podium in the WRC. Unfortunately such a car was not as extensively campaigned as the Delta, which also won that event.

  • @moncefecw3131
    @moncefecw3131 Рік тому

    Bro the intro was beautiful

  • @SMlFFY85
    @SMlFFY85 Рік тому +9

    It's a crime what Fiat did to Lancia in the past 30 years.

    • @profemeritus534
      @profemeritus534 Рік тому

      That opinion is somewhat ignorant of the fact that all the 10 Lancia WRC titles was actually financed by Fiat. Lancia was just not a brand name worthy of further motorsport financing as they never delivered in showroom sales, it works much better as an Italian grandma's shopping trolley.

    • @harishs9003
      @harishs9003 2 місяці тому

      😢

  • @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt
    @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Рік тому +2

    The world is a lesser place without Lancia bonkersness.

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh7544 Рік тому

    Thanks for a quality vid. 80% of the material is from my home rally, 1000Lakes Rally Finland.

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 Рік тому +3

    The Portugal incident was the beginning of the end of Group B. Sadly. Corsica just finished it. Toivonen's fatal crash. 😢

  • @Arkham_UK
    @Arkham_UK Рік тому

    Fascinating ❤ thank you.

  • @stevolarry420stevenslozz3
    @stevolarry420stevenslozz3 Рік тому +1

    This was ok mate, I quite enjoyed it. Keep it up an I may sub 👍😎

  • @fauxvier8519
    @fauxvier8519 Рік тому

    Love to relive ur videos!

  • @Rentta
    @Rentta Рік тому +2

    There was also ECV 2 which looked nothing like Delta :P

  • @clayongunzelle9555
    @clayongunzelle9555 Рік тому +3

    They put a f1 level engine on a frame with a couple panels.... Crazyville😅

  • @firstbrotherDK
    @firstbrotherDK Рік тому

    Amazing video! Hope one day you can do a series on Hyundai, kind of from zero to hero, thanks bro!

  • @charlespriestly7613
    @charlespriestly7613 Рік тому

    Is the a high pitched noise from 8:00 to 8:31?

  • @rodeduivel1000
    @rodeduivel1000 Рік тому +1

    i can see lancia making a comeback with e rally or whatever it is called
    i really hope they bring back the delta in its old form

  • @NunoRamos100
    @NunoRamos100 Рік тому

    In the Rally of Portugal 1986, the driver of the Ford RS 200 who had the accident was a portuguese driver, who's name was Joaquim Santos.

  • @johngeren1053
    @johngeren1053 2 місяці тому

    The gas tank of theToivonen/Cresto death car was punctured by a broken chassis tube, not a tree limb. A close look at photos of the wreck being recovered show this. The floor is folded most severely just behind and beneath Cresto's place. Bent and broken chassis tubes are visible. That was also what was officially reported at the time.

  • @rmamon2554
    @rmamon2554 Рік тому +1

    I have never heard someone calling the O37 the zero37 except in this Docu.

  • @brdllc
    @brdllc Рік тому

    Hell yeah it’s automobilistic long form video time

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh5741 Рік тому

    The 037 engine was a developed Fiat 131 Abarth engine - vital point. That 16V engine started life in 124 Spider Abarth Rally in 1974 and ended in Lancia Delta S4 in 1986. Which was a developed from 037, code named Abarth 038. Then they put a ”Delta silhoulette” body on it.
    It seems Abarth bullt at least 150 cars as over 100 factory new ones was for sale ”cheaply” in 1987, as reported in my swedish magazine Teknikens Värld in period.

  • @kexcz8276
    @kexcz8276 Рік тому

    Now I see why its always the Delta S4 or integrale 😅😂. Not my favorite in terms of beauty (I liked the wedges more), but still- glad that Lancia, despite not seen often today, has its earned glory 🙂

  • @SilentKillerPrince
    @SilentKillerPrince 10 місяців тому

    What's unbelievable about Lancia history is that Lancia isn't some big manifacturer. It didn't have the infinite cash flow Audi or Toyota or Peugeot had, it only won because of sheer talent and, most importantly, passion.
    Those were the years where manifacturers still tought "Can I afford to race? No. Do I want to race? Hell yeah", times where you sold cars to make enough money to be able to race, not the opposite.

  • @doggSMK
    @doggSMK Рік тому

    This is one of (if not THE) best car channel ever!

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh7544 Рік тому +1

    Firts time Alen tested the group A car he said to his co-pilot, look, I can drive this with one hand, its going to be a long year....

  • @thetruthspeaker1978
    @thetruthspeaker1978 Рік тому

    That co-driver walking away from a fatal crash raised my hair..😮😢

  • @giuseppemaggio5894
    @giuseppemaggio5894 Рік тому +4

    Most successful brand in F1 --> Ferrari
    Most successful brand in Rally --> Lancia
    First brand to win a race and a title in F1 --> Alfa Romeo
    First driver to win a race and an F1 Championship --> Farina
    First driver to win 2 championships in a row ---> Ascari
    The bike currently dominating Moto GP --> Ducati
    The rider who won last year and probably this year --> Bagnaia
    The two most successful riders in history --> Agostini and Rossi
    The car that dominated German DTM on debut --> Alfa Romeo 155 Think about this next time someone tells you that Italian engineering is not the best
    Finally, keep in mind that the VW group was saved in the late 70s by a genius Italian designer.

    • @noobsaibot7006
      @noobsaibot7006 Рік тому +1

      I hope people respect Italian cars more and Italian engineering.
      Italian cars may not be perfect but they are winners.

  • @TheDf2med
    @TheDf2med Рік тому +2

    Can you make a video covering development and competition of amazing french maxi (megane and 306) kit cars?

  • @tommytllefsen3863
    @tommytllefsen3863 Рік тому

    The Delta looked great compared to affordable family cars today😓

  • @Pabig93
    @Pabig93 Рік тому

    You have a mistake in the video concerning the 1986 season. You mention that all the results got annulled but that is not correct. Only the Rally San Remo got annulled for controversial reasons. The rest of the seasons points stood and Juha Kankkunen won the 1986 title.

  • @zephyrod7307
    @zephyrod7307 Рік тому

    8:00 ow my ears. Why’s there a dogwhistle

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg7843 Рік тому

    Ironically the Renault driver who won the 1986 Portuguese Rally nearly got incinerated in a crash in the Azores Rally later that year. He retired on the spot!

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 Рік тому

    Any videos on Group B and I'm watching!! Unfortunately Group B was a victim of it's own success and developments in the cars. The cars were getting faster and, in the end, were too fast for the places where they were racing. The crowds didn't help, along with the lack of safety. So it was definitely a victim of it's own success. The cars were amazing. Lancia Delta S4, Audi Quatro, Peugeot 205 Gti etc. It was the golden era of Rallying for me.

    • @tomdtom5407
      @tomdtom5407 Рік тому +2

      Peugeot 205 GTI wasn't in group B. It was the 205 T16

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 Рік тому +1

      @@tomdtom5407 yes you're right, my mistake.

  • @oskark312
    @oskark312 Рік тому

    8:00 i hear a hum from the video?

  • @ramadhanisme7
    @ramadhanisme7 Рік тому

    Lancia really knows the best time to quit from rally

  • @jaevindear2272
    @jaevindear2272 Рік тому +1

    Not twin turbo twin charged.

  • @Boa74
    @Boa74 Рік тому

    I don't understand why Audi competed with the 200 when in facts the Quattro was a Coupè with 4WD.
    More than 11000 Quattro were made and it was a perfect Group A

  • @watanabeisamu1461
    @watanabeisamu1461 Рік тому +3

    Lancia ラリーCar エンジンがハイパワーラリーのF1 マシンー
    最強グループB が廃止になってしまった😢Lancia S4 ヘンリートーイボンネンが事故で亡くなってしまった残念

    • @falt.a7350
      @falt.a7350 Рік тому +1

      Hey Samurai... TOHIVONNEN😂😂😂
      GREETS from Italy 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

  • @SpacedOdyssey
    @SpacedOdyssey Рік тому

    Now it's Toyota's Turn, Two titles back to back

  • @luiwammes4193
    @luiwammes4193 Рік тому

    Here's a man telling us about the history of Lancia in Rally. The Lancia Rallycars.
    I would then think you would kinda know the competition. Walter Rörhl drove an Opel Ascona 400; not an Opel Asconda.

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  Рік тому +1

      just mis-spoke. it happens from time to time

  • @Bozar069
    @Bozar069 Рік тому +2

    For some strange reason every time I watch old racing clips I have an urge to smoke cigarettes.

  • @michaelhirst5072
    @michaelhirst5072 Рік тому

    I would of thought the ford escort would of had the the biggest legacy

  • @captainsmartass3368
    @captainsmartass3368 Рік тому +1

    I hope you can do a video on the Peugeot 205 T16

  • @robertkenney7122
    @robertkenney7122 Рік тому

    Yaaaaassss! 😂

  • @marks7197
    @marks7197 Рік тому

    For me and many others at the time Lancia's reputation was tarnished by their Group 6 entries in the early 80"s, I lost a lot of respect for them as a result.

  • @joaovictorcesa9443
    @joaovictorcesa9443 Рік тому +5

    Lancia, gone too soon....

    • @TheDf2med
      @TheDf2med Рік тому +2

      They pulled the plug just in time. Just look at Sainz nightmare 1993 season.

    • @joaovictorcesa9443
      @joaovictorcesa9443 Рік тому +1

      @@TheDf2med well yeah, but wish we could at least have gotten some more cool road cars

  • @stroganis
    @stroganis Рік тому

    i wist lancia will make another new fun car

  • @gehtdianschasau8372
    @gehtdianschasau8372 3 місяці тому

    "Legacy, that's the best thing, any of us can hope to leave behind" Nope, you should have children, to balance out all the idiots out there. That is the best, you should leave behind. Have fun!

  • @owen_vlogs706
    @owen_vlogs706 Рік тому

    I forgot there's 2 Carlos signs.

  • @fireraider2428
    @fireraider2428 Рік тому

    Is this a repost?

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  Рік тому

      check the pinned comment / video description

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 Рік тому

      The other video is clearly only about the Delta cars...

  • @marciocarvalho8975
    @marciocarvalho8975 Рік тому

    A Família Fiat destruiu algumas das mais importantes e icónicas marcas de carros italianas. Jamais compraria um carro Fiat

  • @michaely6665
    @michaely6665 5 місяців тому

    Large blame must go on FIA who allowed regulations for Group B rally, and full slick tyres on public roads, and uncontrolled spectators on stage.......

  • @theschnurrbart2260
    @theschnurrbart2260 Рік тому

    babamäßig

  • @radman4006
    @radman4006 Рік тому

    Sorry man, the rose colored glass thing went away in the 70's

  • @LucaBlightOfHighland
    @LucaBlightOfHighland Рік тому +2

    And it was eventually forgotten as a maker of hideous overpriced AF subcompacts.

  • @window469wow3
    @window469wow3 Рік тому

    hi