Breakdown: Lingering Will ~ Kingdom Hearts 2 Analysis

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  • @tatsoomaki
    @tatsoomaki 4 роки тому +130

    The animation viewer really helps with some of the attacks. I'm still absolutely blown away with the animation quality of LWs moveset, half of them have no right being so fluid considering how fast they happen

    • @BioRoxas
      @BioRoxas  4 роки тому +17

      You guys should check out this guy’s channel ^ he’s funny

    • @tatsoomaki
      @tatsoomaki 4 роки тому +10

      @@BioRoxas stOP OH GOD

  • @coldpea
    @coldpea 4 роки тому +177

    I never noticed that the end of Lingering Will’s desperation move looks like a Thunder Surge, truly one of his ultimate attacks.

    • @inazumarai7690
      @inazumarai7690 3 роки тому +7

      they knew what the players were doing in that bs last fight vs xehanort

  • @nova_plus4209
    @nova_plus4209 4 роки тому +79

    never knew how much the keyblade changed let alone how smooth it transforms. really interesting

  • @fresaenelshortcake
    @fresaenelshortcake 4 роки тому +67

    The PTSD inducing boss is finally getting an analysis. He didn’t even fight him and ripped the animations so he didn’t have to go through the pain.

  • @spice2110
    @spice2110 4 роки тому +52

    This game came out in 2007 ffs. My god the attention to detail is astonishing.

  • @MugenCannon97
    @MugenCannon97 4 роки тому +108

    Terra when you fight him in KH2FM: A wide variety of devastating combos and attacks that fully utilise the keyblade's power.
    Terra when you play as him in BBS: thunder surge lol

    • @generaljimmies3429
      @generaljimmies3429 4 роки тому +4

      How else can you defeat Mysterious Figure on Lv. 1 Critical?

    • @SaberRexZealot
      @SaberRexZealot 3 роки тому +7

      BbS should’ve been the PS3 KH game

    • @JohnCharGaming
      @JohnCharGaming 3 роки тому +1

      5:46 lol

    • @LuizHenrique9406
      @LuizHenrique9406 Рік тому +1

      His DM has a thunder surge, to some extent

    • @etherealbladerx8153
      @etherealbladerx8153 10 місяців тому

      You know it’s the same for master eraqus 🤔 it’s like their armor brings out the potential they could have or they have been their solo training dummies 😮

  • @bizkit8538
    @bizkit8538 4 роки тому +45

    Personally, I consider the “Data Blocks” to be crystals or gems. There’s nothing in Terra’s BBS moveset or character arc that’s remotely related to computer data. Crystals at least would be consistent with Terra’s earth theme

    • @slateoffate9812
      @slateoffate9812 2 роки тому +4

      If I remember right, he has an electricity related, though still physical, command in the tutorial fight against him. I've always associated him with Thunder and stuff because of that, and computers are electric.

  • @BIackViper
    @BIackViper 4 роки тому +23

    This fight is so fast-paced and stressful that I never even noticed these things; square did a crazy good job with LW's moveset

  • @ghosthuntermike2592
    @ghosthuntermike2592 4 роки тому +26

    Gotta love how BBS let us use the Ulitma Cannon.

  • @LuckyIStar
    @LuckyIStar 4 роки тому +21

    At last, the Lingering Will. Good show, my dood. I appreciate you and the crew hard work getting this footage without succumbing to the PTSD of just looking at him from the wrong side of the fence.

  • @blackwolf100k6
    @blackwolf100k6 4 роки тому +25

    Just a fun fact, the move where he dashes back and forth with the keyblade looks hella similar to Sora’s rising sun reaction command so I always called it that lmao

    • @johnpantag472
      @johnpantag472 2 роки тому +3

      It isn't similar. It's the actual rising sun

  • @anthony199757
    @anthony199757 4 роки тому +7

    This is my favorite kingdom hearts super bosses, the setting, music and the fight are nearly perfect.

  • @thatoneguy7627
    @thatoneguy7627 4 роки тому +7

    Anybody else notice Lingering Wills Keyblade formchanges either parallel or precede for what Keyblade changes Sora can use in KH3?

  • @diegolomba2613
    @diegolomba2613 4 роки тому +8

    Wow, those raw animations are incredible. Great work getting access to those, bio!

    • @BioRoxas
      @BioRoxas  4 роки тому +4

      Yeah it was thanks to KeytoTruth!! He's awesome ^^

  • @benedict6962
    @benedict6962 4 роки тому +8

    They had the keyblade transformations to such a precise and varied degree all the way back in 2FM, damn. So little has changed from that to formchanges, they just needed to stop hiding it behind particle effects.

  • @YTPrule
    @YTPrule 3 роки тому +2

    I knew about his smooth animations and most of his moves but I did NOT know about his magnet and blizzard casts. This is the first time I ever seen those.

  • @Abe01-98
    @Abe01-98 4 роки тому +7

    The Horsemen of the apocalypse Fury version of KH, LW is one of my favorite/most stressful boss to battle and I'm glad u made a breakdown about it

  • @X_Nexus
    @X_Nexus 4 роки тому +7

    Very great analysis Bio. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think you missed the attack where the Lingering Will dissappears to summon drone like objects made of light to shoot at Sora. Also, I like to think the beginning keyblade combo during Lingering Will's desperate move is similar to Terra's Ars Solum attack in BBS.

  • @Boyaketeru
    @Boyaketeru 4 роки тому +6

    the magnet to draw you in only happens in last phase when he DMs if you dont loop his DM he can do attacks with magic.

  • @DrBepis-jo7qt
    @DrBepis-jo7qt 4 роки тому +21

    If you want a guide, I recommend two of em
    First there's Sorallam1(I apologize if I misspelled that) 's guide to the whole fight
    There's also Everglow's definitive guide to the fight

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому

      *Soraalam1

    • @DrBepis-jo7qt
      @DrBepis-jo7qt 4 роки тому +1

      god dammit I knew it

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому

      @@DrBepis-jo7qt at least you realized that you possibly made a mistake, and I'm not gonna lie I had a hard time remembering the proper spelling too

  • @Alex856100
    @Alex856100 4 роки тому +9

    His punching attack is very similar to the dark impulse command style finisher, just switching darkness for "data" effects.

  • @danieltinsleykhvsff9622
    @danieltinsleykhvsff9622 4 роки тому +8

    Ive been waiting for this forever.

  • @TheUltimaGhost
    @TheUltimaGhost 4 роки тому +13

    When the armor has more personality then it's own owner.

  • @krispity7527
    @krispity7527 4 роки тому +5

    new breakdown? LETS GO!

  • @jetstreamjackie3437
    @jetstreamjackie3437 4 роки тому +1

    I could watch these animations forever man, they look so good :)

  • @thatoneloafofbread9862
    @thatoneloafofbread9862 4 роки тому +13

    I've never seen him use the Magnet or Blizzard casts in all the times I've fought him.

    • @BioRoxas
      @BioRoxas  4 роки тому +8

      It is incredibly rare. Like I didn't even get them to trigger xD

    • @LupineHero
      @LupineHero 4 роки тому +1

      I’ve seen Blizzard a few times (it suuuuucks) and Magnet exactly once.

    • @Ryanzusa
      @Ryanzusa 3 роки тому +2

      For some reason everytike i fought him he uses blizzard at least once, magnet i've never experienced though

    • @AmateurBluwu
      @AmateurBluwu 2 роки тому +1

      I saw blizzard on the attempt that I snagged the W, but I've never seen gravity

  • @SSlash
    @SSlash 4 роки тому +1

    Jeezus that animation after the gauntlet punching attack thing is so smooth and we never get to see it 😭

  • @acehealer4212
    @acehealer4212 2 роки тому

    All of these transformations look really sick. I really love the bow, the gauntlet, and the spinning gear part of his desperation move.

  • @Zen-fire
    @Zen-fire 4 роки тому +7

    How I've waited... for this moment.

  • @willsword8100
    @willsword8100 4 роки тому +2

    Well done Bio-Roxas

  • @D-Up242
    @D-Up242 4 роки тому +1

    Regarding Terra's Glider attack, it *is* possible for him to cast Blizzaga at high health; it happened to me once. I sadly don't have any video evidence (I wasn't recording at the time), but it is possible. It just involves a LOT of bad luck.

  • @DissedRedEngie
    @DissedRedEngie 4 роки тому +6

    Theory time. I've been noticing that data cubes are really prevalent, combining that with Sora's first words in the series. What if, Kingdom Hearts is actually a game in universe. Think about it, Verum Rex is a video game in universe, but Yozora is as real as Sora is. There are many times where data cubes appear outside of simulations. And even Sora himself is questioning if everything he knows is real.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 4 роки тому

      So you are saying it is basically the dataworld from the matrix? Because in that series, a common fantheory is that the real world is actually part of the data and the matrix is just a deeper layer.

    • @DissedRedEngie
      @DissedRedEngie 4 роки тому

      @@lpfan4491 something like that, also now that I think about it. To enter Tron world, the crew's physical bodies are digitized. Sure, this happens in Digimon too, but different franchise. And there are multiple times when stuff just gets simulated to a scarily accurate degree (recoded for example).
      Spoiler alert.
      And even during KH3 dlc, what is one of the places that is used to find Sora? A simulation that is somehow supposed to have hidden data about where Sora could be?

  • @marcaronispagetthi3553
    @marcaronispagetthi3553 4 роки тому +1

    YESSSSSSSS I WAS WAITING FOR THIS!!!

  • @dogebackthesecond438
    @dogebackthesecond438 4 роки тому +2

    i think i might know how the rare attacks might get triggered but im not 100%sure. when the fight starts lingering will wont use his full moveset instead he only uses a few of the attacks that were selected at random when the fight starts. the lower is hp is the more attacks he unlocks. i think the rare attacks might trigger if he unlocks the rider for example at around 50% hp. thats my theory anyways i could be wrong

  • @neovcgl
    @neovcgl 4 роки тому +2

    My favorite KH boss. He's kinda old yes, but has aged veeeryy well

  • @allaroundlazy2845
    @allaroundlazy2845 4 роки тому +6

    I'm always gonna be annoyed Terra never got any of these as moves in BBS or as part of a moveset in KH3 for Terranort. I know its hard work, but Aqua and Terra shoulda got SOMETHING new. I woulda been happy if Aqua just did a Ghost Drive move and Terranort got his Dark Impulse stuff back.

    • @OneRandomVictory
      @OneRandomVictory 4 роки тому +8

      Well he did get the Ultima Cannon move as a shotlock in BBS but that’s it

    • @jacksonwww5
      @jacksonwww5 4 роки тому +1

      I like to imagine that this is because Lingering Will has a capacity mixed with that of Eraqus, that's why it is so powerful

  • @shoop6409
    @shoop6409 4 роки тому

    Really freaking cool! Love the video!

  • @Yuta961
    @Yuta961 4 роки тому +4

    FINALY
    -Xemnas

  • @willsword8100
    @willsword8100 3 роки тому +1

    I hope we get more Formchanges in the future. However we don't know how the Foretellers fight so really anything can happen.

  • @ridwankamal4620
    @ridwankamal4620 4 роки тому +1

    I love you're videos and channel dude just keep going

  • @rollio1678
    @rollio1678 4 роки тому +2

    I never noticed that the command menu changed during the fight

  • @zantetsuken-zero
    @zantetsuken-zero 4 роки тому +1

    The first time I saw him use magic I was so confused. I saw the Magnega and I was like “wait Donald can cast Magnega now?” then I saw Blizzagas shoot out of his bike and I was like “WAIT FUCK HE USES MAGIC?!?”

  • @keeganlafferty1395
    @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому +1

    Bio-Roxas: *forgets that KH2 had Magnet, not Gravity*
    me: *facepalm*

  • @benji777tm
    @benji777tm 4 роки тому

    The man, the myth, the legend.

  • @NesquickCoffee
    @NesquickCoffee 4 роки тому

    I've never realized how form changes were kind of happening in the games before KH3, never even thought to compare the boss attacks to them

  • @ScrubxxLord
    @ScrubxxLord 4 роки тому +1

    This and Yozora are my current favorites with 2fm data roxas and remind xion being close. So far yozora is the only one i have had difficulty getting a no hit run mostly due to how much tighter and subtle the openings are compared to lingering will's awkward moments of standing still indicating an opening.

  • @NinjaWarotMCph
    @NinjaWarotMCph 4 роки тому

    "...and make it harder to see anything but pain."
    Bio, you're making this too damn realistic. Holy crap, HAHAHA.
    Also, I just wanna say that the intro of his DM looks like Trinity Limit to me. It's nice.
    Anyways, dang this is one good animation breakdown of the more-or-less true superboss of KH2. KUDOS, YET AGAIN!

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому

      hmm, pillars of light, magic circles, slamming the keyblade into the ground, yup it checks out

  • @kingleotheepic461
    @kingleotheepic461 4 роки тому

    Actually, thank you my friend. I’m trying to write an Avengers Infinity War crossover with KH3 and I really needed some attacks for Terra.

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 4 роки тому

    The three airstikes are not only the only the only attack where he does not transform his keyblade but also the only one that sora can actually perform himself. I think the reactioncommand was called rising sun, but not entirely sure.

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому

      yeah, that attack's actual name might not be Rising Sun but that's what players call it due to the resemblance

  • @RandomLap
    @RandomLap 4 роки тому +2

    SO the freaking magnet is not a myth afterall.
    Though I have only seen him using it on a bike.

  • @CoBud91
    @CoBud91 2 роки тому

    He can hold the handle separately from the rest of his keyblade, after 15 years of watching this guy just what.

  • @arkuler7973
    @arkuler7973 4 роки тому

    At 5:48 that reminds me of the surge attacks for bbs

  • @BrennySpain
    @BrennySpain 4 роки тому +1

    Kim of surprised it’s taken you to do this sort of video? But this was really awesome though!

  • @laith9989
    @laith9989 4 роки тому +4

    PTSD is real.

  • @MewI0I
    @MewI0I 4 роки тому

    I'm doing my first playthrough of the Kingdom Hearts games since I was always an Xbox boy, 100%ing each game before moving on to the next.
    As much as I struggled with Lingering Will, I'd take this fight 10 times over before I'd fight the z Mysterious Figure as Terra again. Also, the music is fantastic. I'm so glad these games are finally on Xbox, they are so much fun and it feels like I'm on a grand adventure

  • @lorenzodileva5255
    @lorenzodileva5255 4 роки тому

    One of the best bosses of KH series

  • @d.d.investigator
    @d.d.investigator 4 роки тому

    "And make it hard to see but pain"
    Oh yeah... The pain's real

  • @feenthehuman515
    @feenthehuman515 4 роки тому

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
    YESSSSSSS
    watching this makes me want Sora to use his Kingdom Key for transformations more and more but i know we wont get it cause we gotta have all them themed keyblades from specific worlds XD

  • @brianlam7879
    @brianlam7879 4 роки тому

    I know that I'm late to make this and I think I made this similar comment before in the past.
    (0:25) Sliding Dash
    (0:50) Impetuous Whip
    (1:17) Ultima Cannon
    (1:52) Draining Arrow + Magnet
    (2:46) Drilling Thrust
    (3:11) Enchanting Curse
    (4:12) Keyblade Glider + Blizzard
    (4:44) Ars Solum
    (5:51) Plasmatic Drones

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому

      you actually got the names of the attacks?
      btw the Sliding Dash attack looks more like Rising Sun so I like to call it that instead, so as to not confuse it with one of Sora's combo hits

    • @brianlam7879
      @brianlam7879 4 роки тому

      @@keeganlafferty1395 Actually some of these attacks are fan-named and I got them @Everyglow's tutorial video.

    • @mastertyler8971
      @mastertyler8971 3 роки тому

      @@brianlam7879 in my bbs hd fm with terra I have the sliding dash and ars solem move (I haven’t unpicked ultima cannon yet, can you tell me any other lingering will moves I can aquire in kh bbs hd fm please?)

  • @trentonfontes5354
    @trentonfontes5354 3 роки тому

    I had a hard time with this super boss but it was fun to retry every time

  • @jonathangp65
    @jonathangp65 4 роки тому

    Man, the animation is so gorgeous. A shame we can't see it in it's full glory without getting grinded to the ground.

  • @marcoa6319
    @marcoa6319 4 роки тому

    This is what would look like inside Terra’s heart during the KH3 Terranort fight:
    LW is diving into Terra’s Station of Awakening on the Keyblade Glider.
    LW fights Terra who is wielding No Name and uses Terranort’s moveset with some of his other commands. LW might fight the way in BBS.
    Then, LW would face 1000 heartless but with his KH2 moveset. The Guardian appears in the form of DDD second phase with Terra trapped inside. LW would use his desperation move to easily defeat it.
    Finally, Terra and the Gaurdian are in a Trinity position. LW is about to use his Ultima Cannon to destroy them but flashes to Ven and Aqua as well as seeing a vision of Riku as his successor which made him change his mind. LW decided that saving and reuniting with his friends instead of destroying his possessed self as a real way to set things right.
    LW heads towards Terra and the Guardian and all three performed Trinity which signals Terra’s return.

  • @AxZelAnimations30
    @AxZelAnimations30 2 роки тому

    Some of his form changes are cool. Specially the one where it splits into 2 ( the blade looking like Axe ) and then merges again as spear.
    Some others looks like... they are stretching it... heh.
    Seriously the bow just feels weird.
    Also the cannon.

  • @everrunic8375
    @everrunic8375 3 роки тому

    Mann
    Lingering will doing these keyblade form changes even before kh3

  • @gablink5190
    @gablink5190 4 роки тому

    i think there was an attack where he dashes at you then cancel the dash with a combo attack that kinda looks like ars solum.

  • @manfromhamaslume
    @manfromhamaslume 4 роки тому +5

    kh3 really did this guy dirty

  • @shiny9690
    @shiny9690 4 роки тому +2

    Yo, imagine being so pissed that your armor is possessed by that sheer rage alone and turns into a killing machine. Spoilers,
    it's not even possessed by his heart, because in KH3 we see that it's with Ansem SoD as his Heartless Stand thing. He was just that angry when the Lingering Will was born.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 4 роки тому +2

      That was already clear tho. BBS straight up said that it is only his mind that is doing that.

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому

      the Lingering Will is essentially Terra's "Nobody," as we know Nobodies are formed when someone with a strong will loses their heart to darkness and becomes a Heartless, their body then begins moving on its own, reanimated by their will, although Lingering Will formed from Terra's armor, not his body, the concept is the same, the shell left behind is reanimated by his will

  • @booneneal1146
    @booneneal1146 4 роки тому +1

    Thx man

  • @marsplanetary8513
    @marsplanetary8513 2 роки тому

    They made him look like a beast in Kingdom Hearts 2 what happened in Birth by Sleep did they Nerf him or something it also would have been awesome if we got the lingering will Keyblade as a DLC keyblade just like oathkeeper and Oblivion it would have been really cool to add this move set to Sora

  • @randy54746
    @randy54746 4 роки тому +3

    He's OP and a massive pain in the ass....

  • @darksniper2133
    @darksniper2133 4 роки тому +1

    Let's goooooooo

  • @tyknight2488
    @tyknight2488 4 роки тому

    As someone who watches speedrunners play kh2 i am deeply sadden that you did not mention lingering will's punching attack being known as Mike terra's punchout
    But seriously keep up the good content and breakdowns

  • @Dan-do2pl
    @Dan-do2pl 4 роки тому +2

    i did the negiative combo

  • @65firered
    @65firered 4 роки тому +1

    So was Terra holding back a ridiculous amount or has the Lingering Will just unlocked all the possible potential he had?

    • @soraxstacy1477
      @soraxstacy1477 4 роки тому +2

      The Lingering Will is supposed to be all of Terra's anger. That's why LW is so freaking strong and able to hold off Terranort

    • @65firered
      @65firered 4 роки тому

      @@soraxstacy1477 I'm referring to the techniques. Especially the insane amount of keyblade transformation.

    • @SSlash
      @SSlash 4 роки тому

      65firered I mean no doubt Terra is capable of wild shit, I just feel like on one hand yeah they went all out with this as a boss as opposed to what they could with the limitations of the psp, hell they couldn’t even animate the cape lol but hey if Terra is playable again anytime soon in a full on main console game? I expect it to be night and day from his bbs counterpart

  • @etherealbladerx8153
    @etherealbladerx8153 11 місяців тому

    Man oh man 😮 I wanna know what are those texts is in the magic circle and within the cubes so bad what are them hourglasses 😖

  • @everrunic8375
    @everrunic8375 2 місяці тому

    2:35 is that not a magnet and not a gravity magic?

  • @dunno6161
    @dunno6161 4 роки тому

    My only queation is that if Terra's 1/3rd of himself can pull this astounding level of power.....
    What can a FULLY COMPLETE Terra do now? O.O

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 4 роки тому

      It might be a "not the sum of its parts"-situration like the one boss in paper mario that is actually much weaker once he is complete.

  • @hugojuarez2258
    @hugojuarez2258 4 роки тому

    The Great Secret Boss

  • @rayasg7326
    @rayasg7326 4 роки тому +1

    Y E S

  • @coldrodger4589
    @coldrodger4589 4 роки тому +1

    I still haven’t beat him after 5 months lol but it doesn’t matter cuz my cat knocked over my tv breaking it

  • @daltonharmon1018
    @daltonharmon1018 3 роки тому

    There has not been a video properly explaining his ai

  • @summerdays.9352
    @summerdays.9352 Рік тому

    Tell me it wouldn’t be badass if lingering will was in dissidia

  • @FuriousMMO
    @FuriousMMO 4 роки тому

    Oooh

  • @bignanavc
    @bignanavc 4 роки тому

    2:47 because sora needs to get punched more in kh2

    • @keeganlafferty1395
      @keeganlafferty1395 4 роки тому

      ahem, Land of Dragons, he more or less got into a fist fight with the guy who has a black eye (forgot his name)

  • @YaBoiSamuraiYT
    @YaBoiSamuraiYT 3 роки тому

    10,000th View Baby🔥

  • @corenscott5179
    @corenscott5179 2 роки тому

    Definitely eraqus student

  • @tripoint23x
    @tripoint23x 4 роки тому

    Is square paying attention yes this was my assumption on key blade transformations pure honesty I didn’t like 99% of the kh3 transforms I only liked the ultimate weapon

  • @Redxan600
    @Redxan600 4 роки тому

    I finally figured out why your name is Bio-Roxas!
    The "Bio" in your name is short for biology.
    You *study* on the attacks in the game, hence the "bio".
    Studying is what Xehanort did.
    And Xehanort became a *Nobody.*
    Roxas is a Nobody, which is why is in your name.
    Who are you? You're Xemnas!
    It's confirmed. Bio-Roxas is just Xemnas in disguise.

  • @haziq12ish
    @haziq12ish 2 роки тому

    0:26 called the rising sun as air dash attack, instant dislike

  • @jamesklaus2260
    @jamesklaus2260 4 роки тому

    Anyone looking for a good boss guide Soraalam1 has a great one.

  • @jacksonwww5
    @jacksonwww5 4 роки тому

    To be honest, I don't like this fight so much, I think it limits our resources a lot, we end up having to repeat the same thing without varying the techniques, he doesn't have very consistent openings and has attacks that you really need luck to not to be caught, when I finish this fight I don't feel like playing it again, it ends being more frustrating than fun, but this soundtrack is my favorite of a boss fight, and I'm fascinated with the animations.

  • @rikuhatake2336
    @rikuhatake2336 4 роки тому

    Honestly this was your worst breakdown so far in my opinion. I like it better when you use just gameplay footage, even if it takes months to get the footage. Also you didn’t mention what’s able to block or not. Sorry but this was not a good one in my opinion man

    • @BioRoxas
      @BioRoxas  4 роки тому +3

      I think I mentioned at the start that this wasn't a formal boss breakdown with openings and all that since so many people have made guides on this ^^ Sorry it disappointed though!

    • @rikuhatake2336
      @rikuhatake2336 4 роки тому

      Bio-Roxas oh I guess I didn’t hear that part my bad. I apologize then, it didn’t disappoint as it did the job as you always do, just that it was worse than your usual ones. Although I guess I missed the part of you mentioning it isn’t a proper one so I’m sorry