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  • Authorities in Russia have detained two Russian journalists on charges of extremism, accusing them of working for a banned group founded by the late opposition leader Alexei Navalny.
    The two men - Sergey Karelin and Konstantin Gabov - both deny the charges, and could face years in prison if convicted. They both worked for Deutsche Welle before the channel was banned and expelled from Russia. Navalny's movement is designated by Russian authorities as an "extremist" group, meaning his staff and supporters can face prosecution.
    For more on this, we talk to Sergey Lukashevsky. He is the head of the Andrey Saharov Center for human rights in Berlin.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 150

  • @WingMan1964
    @WingMan1964 17 днів тому +31

    Nobody should be going to Russia for any reason.

    • @ScottishAtheist
      @ScottishAtheist 16 днів тому

      They were russian. Did you even watch the video?

    • @w1113zuch
      @w1113zuch 16 днів тому

      😂 канешна 😂

  • @tasreasfatemsa8266
    @tasreasfatemsa8266 17 днів тому +27

    Human rights is the most double standard word in this world.

    • @burns281981
      @burns281981 16 днів тому

      Why do you think it is the most?

  • @reym7140
    @reym7140 17 днів тому +5

    Nothing new...

  • @bigboss.800
    @bigboss.800 17 днів тому +17

    If Germany is free country, then why banned RT ?

    • @Rod732
      @Rod732 17 днів тому +8

      Because we don't accept lies you bot

    • @neilnelson7603
      @neilnelson7603 17 днів тому +8

      ​@@Rod732So, you silence them and get upset when Russia silence your journalists?

    • @SNkumar-cy7xq
      @SNkumar-cy7xq 17 днів тому +2

      ​​@@Rod732more then DW?

    • @adnanalikhan6890
      @adnanalikhan6890 16 днів тому +5

      Because they're American puppies. They only bark when their master tells them to.

    • @user-kk5cv1rs5r
      @user-kk5cv1rs5r 16 днів тому

      @@Rod732 that is not how democracy works. EU are authoritarian states.

  • @jec_ecart
    @jec_ecart 17 днів тому +32

    Dictatorship.

    • @neilnelson7603
      @neilnelson7603 17 днів тому

      Meanwhile Isreal kills over 100 independent journalists and you're silent. It says a lot about so called western democracy.

  • @PerceivedREALITY999
    @PerceivedREALITY999 17 днів тому +24

    Free Assange! "When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals." ~ Edward Snowden

    • @kainv.9221
      @kainv.9221 17 днів тому

      The same, Edward Snowden, who was gifted at luxury apartment in Moscow by the Russian government?)

    • @kensuz
      @kensuz 17 днів тому

      @kainv.9221 Yes, the same Edward Snowden who exposed that the US government was spying on its people and the world.

    • @kareemi7080
      @kareemi7080 17 днів тому +1

      isn’t the point that europe is an open society and has democratic values?? Once you question that they’ll compare themselves to the “dictatorships” and say see at least we aren’t like them…😆😆.Nobody has even mistaken Russia or parts of Asia for having the same democratic values as Europe…Europe and the west do that.

    • @user-sk6qj9yf6w
      @user-sk6qj9yf6w 17 днів тому +3

      @@kainv.9221 You envy silently

  • @MsLUFC
    @MsLUFC 17 днів тому +39

    Russia looking more and more like North K.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 17 днів тому +2

      He is lucky not in GZ.
      --or already X by..
      1
      D
      F

    • @fritzraake22
      @fritzraake22 17 днів тому

      @@happymelon7129 Says the rotten melon.

    • @artman12
      @artman12 17 днів тому +15

      Looking more like the EU and the US. Can’t tell the difference.

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 17 днів тому +1

      LOL, you have NEVER visited neither Russia nor Korea!

    • @neilnelson7603
      @neilnelson7603 17 днів тому

      What about Isreal killing 100 journalists? Are they still a beacon of democracy?

  • @Propakistani1224
    @Propakistani1224 17 днів тому +25

    Lol ...European lacture Russia on freedom of speech And free press😂😂😂

    • @katzensindweich3505
      @katzensindweich3505 17 днів тому +1

      Russia will never listen. Too far gone into a failed state. Russia is beyond help.

    • @MsLUFC
      @MsLUFC 17 днів тому +1

      In Russia you get prisontime for criticism towards the war in Ukraine. They dont have any freedom of speech. Does a pakistani know anything about europe?

    • @MsLUFC
      @MsLUFC 17 днів тому +8

      In Russia you get 10 years in jail for being against the "special operation"

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 17 днів тому +2

      @@MsLUFCWho has told you this nonsense?

    • @kareemi7080
      @kareemi7080 17 днів тому

      @@MsLUFCisn’t the point that europe is an open society and has democratic values?? Once you question that they’ll compare themselves to the “dictatorships” and say see at least we aren’t like them…😆😆.Nobody has even mistaken Russia or parts of Asia for having the same democratic values as Europe…Europe and the west do that.

  • @uvikir3547
    @uvikir3547 17 днів тому +25

    Remember Gonzalo Lira? He is dead now! So how dangerous is it for independent journalists in Ukraine?

    • @MsLUFC
      @MsLUFC 17 днів тому +1

      I followed him, he had health problems for a long time, his health was really bad. He was warned several times to leave, he didnt, so they jailed him for pushing russian disinformation inside Ukraine. He was not bright

    • @ronnie5329
      @ronnie5329 17 днів тому +5

      He was already very ill. And warned several times to leave

    • @carolinerondon8934
      @carolinerondon8934 17 днів тому +1

      When you got the lungs of a 90 year old chain smoker, you might want to just not push those type of information war, when warned multiple times. Not a bright guy

    • @notastone4832
      @notastone4832 17 днів тому +7

      @@ronnie5329 he tried to leave, and they said he tried to flee the country and jailed him again.. then he was found dead in his cell.
      dude had an american passport.. if ukraine will do that to him they would do it to you if you dare stand in the way of their lies.

  • @artman12
    @artman12 17 днів тому +20

    The DW Goebells network won’t even allow RT or Sputnik in their country/satellite countries.

    • @Jezar7
      @Jezar7 17 днів тому +6

      Cry more Ivan... 😂 .

    • @icu17siberia
      @icu17siberia 17 днів тому

      Russians don't even believe those stations, thats why you all come here for information

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 17 днів тому +4

      @@Jezar7Why? Because he is right?

    • @kareemi7080
      @kareemi7080 17 днів тому

      @@Jezar7 europe really sacrifices it’s own values to fight their enemy but then also uses the excuse of “Russia and others are bad” to justify diminishing their own values. Israel does the same, because believing your morally superior gives you that ability to crack down on the basis of your country’s moral superiority. We paint Russia and China as not morally superior so when they crack down we don’t see the hypocrisy as we do from the west.

    • @user-kk5cv1rs5r
      @user-kk5cv1rs5r 16 днів тому

      @@Jezar7 European media are streaming from Moscow, but not the vice versa. why ?? so much for the European freedom of speech Democracy

  • @kevinjenner9502
    @kevinjenner9502 17 днів тому +23

    Obviously far more dangerous for all journalists in Gaza.

    • @ScottishAtheist
      @ScottishAtheist 16 днів тому +1

      Zzzzzz Zzzzzz.....

    • @burns281981
      @burns281981 16 днів тому +1

      How so? Let's see if Kevin can respond or if it will only be random others speaking on Kevin's behalf.

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc 15 днів тому +1

      What a non point

  • @JasondeCordoba
    @JasondeCordoba 17 днів тому +31

    People who work for state owned media are actually propagandists not journalists. Jullian Assange is a Journalist.

    • @Stebetto3
      @Stebetto3 17 днів тому +15

      That pretty much covers the whole russian media 😂

    • @josephshields2922
      @josephshields2922 17 днів тому +7

      @@Stebetto3 DW BBC PBS and Ukraine

    • @ronnie917
      @ronnie917 17 днів тому +1

      ​@@josephshields2922Sure bro, its the same. 🤡

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 17 днів тому

      He is lucky not in GZ.
      --or already X by..
      1
      D
      F

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 17 днів тому

      @@Stebetto3When have you been in Russia?

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 17 днів тому +16

    Is a joke to call him "independent journalists."
    When his is from state midia

  • @HectorSantos-fi9xm
    @HectorSantos-fi9xm 17 днів тому +24

    How independent is DW?

    • @carolinerondon8934
      @carolinerondon8934 17 днів тому +15

      They cover all stores, and do it better than most outlets. So id say, pretty independent

    • @josephshields2922
      @josephshields2922 17 днів тому +6

      100 cheerleading war.

    • @HectorSantos-fi9xm
      @HectorSantos-fi9xm 17 днів тому +8

      @@carolinerondon8934, thanks, but most of the time gives the impression of openly bias.

    • @TheTwangKings
      @TheTwangKings 17 днів тому +5

      Trollski what do you know about independence 😂😂😂

    • @neilnelson7603
      @neilnelson7603 17 днів тому

      ​@@carolinerondon8934I haven't seen them talk of the 100 journalists killed in Gaza by Isreal. I guess they're not independent as you may portray them?

  • @adnanalikhan6890
    @adnanalikhan6890 16 днів тому +1

    He should know better to respect local laws. But I think he did it for some promotion or something. Now he probably learnt his lesson and won't break anymore laws in the future.

  • @red_rabbit31
    @red_rabbit31 17 днів тому +17

    > DW journalist
    >independent
    It's a joke, isn't it?

    • @j.e3651
      @j.e3651 17 днів тому +3

      Lmao bro as a European. I feel insulted really. I mean, obviously DW does nothiing more then sharing opinions, that is not journalism. And there is no place for alternative voices unless in certain settings. Again it is a journalists task to have multiple opinions fight eachother.
      How dumb do they think we are.

    • @kareemi7080
      @kareemi7080 17 днів тому

      Duh don’t you know Germans also lost their ability to think for themselves after the Holocaust? There is more free speech in some arab countries than there is in Germany. No such thing as an independent German journalist.

    • @adnanalikhan6890
      @adnanalikhan6890 16 днів тому

      @@j.e3651 Extremely

  • @GarnetNewfree
    @GarnetNewfree 17 днів тому +11

    Let's ask Julian Assange he might know?

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc 15 днів тому

      Ask him

    • @GarnetNewfree
      @GarnetNewfree 15 днів тому

      Do you mind mate, I'm on the phone to Edward Snowden

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc 15 днів тому

      @@GarnetNewfree what do you think would happen to him if he had done that in Russia? Assassination probably. Nelvany didn't do squat and he's six feet under.
      Democratic governments aren't flawless. But they give people the ability to fight back, discuss.
      There's no comparison to Russia.

    • @GarnetNewfree
      @GarnetNewfree 15 днів тому

      Keeping up with the news even the American cia believes nelvaly died not murdered, he wasn't lazarus ey

    • @GarnetNewfree
      @GarnetNewfree 15 днів тому

      You mean like Gonzalo Lira American journalist died in a Ukrainian police station?

  • @user333-us4qz
    @user333-us4qz 17 днів тому +6

    How dangerous is Independent journalist in Ukriane and Gaza or the Westbank 🤣🤷‍♂️🙄

    • @burns281981
      @burns281981 16 днів тому

      Would you be able to explain how they differ in English?
      Just wondering if you are capable of thought.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 17 днів тому +11

    He is more lucky than Gonzalo Lira.
    Gonzalo Lira already X in Youkrain.

    • @neilnelson7603
      @neilnelson7603 17 днів тому +3

      And the 90 journalists killed in Gaza by Isreal

    • @user-kk5cv1rs5r
      @user-kk5cv1rs5r 16 днів тому

      Gonzalo Lira was literally slowly murdered by the Youkrina secret service

  • @slavenaljinovic1162
    @slavenaljinovic1162 17 днів тому +9

    What about Julian Assange?

  • @GongGhuru
    @GongGhuru 17 днів тому +18

    How dangerous it is for journalists in Israel genocide

    • @awalii21
      @awalii21 16 днів тому

      Its so dangerous, they killed hundred of journalists

    • @user-kk5cv1rs5r
      @user-kk5cv1rs5r 16 днів тому

      their career destroyed

    • @burns281981
      @burns281981 16 днів тому

      Wow the poor English really hurt some people in their comments. They don't grasp how badly they grasp the understanding of the words they use.
      Like watching a child play with a loaded gun.

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 17 днів тому +12

    There is no such thing as "independent journalists." The days of story-telling have passed.

  • @georgekung2003utube
    @georgekung2003utube 17 днів тому

    DW pls send your reinforcement journalist to fight for freedom and justice. Pls send all your journalist

  • @Robert-xy4xi
    @Robert-xy4xi 16 днів тому

    Well Amnesty International are not allowed to operate in Western Ukraine! When AI said that Kiev forces were deliberately using civilian buildings, Zelenskiy forced them out!

  • @tomas6179
    @tomas6179 16 днів тому

    DW why don’t you make a report about Gonzalo Lira that died in Ukraines prison because he was reporting about Ukraine. USA citizen. And how little USA did to free him (nothing)

  • @Sportclub18
    @Sportclub18 17 днів тому

    What the heck are you doing there anyways???

  • @leet3207
    @leet3207 16 днів тому

    How dangerous is it for independent journalists in Russia? - not as dangerous as in Gaza. That said are these journalists really independent? Do they have a western agenda that they are pushing etc?

  • @argelmtz
    @argelmtz 16 днів тому

    Is much worst being a palestinian supporter in Germany

  • @user-mc3ie6of4n
    @user-mc3ie6of4n 17 днів тому +2

    Prayer for him

  • @jackoh5134
    @jackoh5134 17 днів тому

    Is it more dangerous than in occupied Palestine?

  • @archyarchfiendx2938
    @archyarchfiendx2938 17 днів тому +15

    Dw propagandist

  • @katzensindweich3505
    @katzensindweich3505 17 днів тому +3

    This is horrific. Free them immediately!!! 😢

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 17 днів тому

    He is lucky not in GZ.
    --or already X by..
    1
    D
    F

  • @adnanalikhan6890
    @adnanalikhan6890 16 днів тому +1

    Should have respected local laws then. Can't imagine a journalist being so irresponsible.

  • @trevorstanding6462
    @trevorstanding6462 17 днів тому +2

    You have to be very brave in Putins Russia to be a journalist of any kind.

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 17 днів тому +1

      Why?

    • @trevorstanding6462
      @trevorstanding6462 16 днів тому +1

      @@claus-not-santa open windows, Novichok and being a journalist comes to mind.

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 16 днів тому

      @@trevorstanding6462 When have you been in Russia last time?

    • @trevorstanding6462
      @trevorstanding6462 16 днів тому +1

      @@claus-not-santa where have you been living for the last 2 years -- on the moon ?

    • @myboysd5772
      @myboysd5772 15 днів тому +1

      @@claus-not-santa You dont have to pretend you dont know what he is talking about.

  • @josephshields2922
    @josephshields2922 17 днів тому

    Maybe these are no accidents. Someone maybe trying to tell them to do as we ask.

  • @francozheng5617
    @francozheng5617 17 днів тому +7

    " independent" 😂

  • @bartmacaluso
    @bartmacaluso 17 днів тому +2

    We don't have an appreciation for just how sensitive things are for the Germans 😃. I mean look how in the name of journalism "their people" are imprisoned in Russia! 😂 But true to form the Germans must give lip service to their "endeavors" should they run afoul of a complication that endangers the IMAGE they want to maintain for themselves.

  • @markm.9731
    @markm.9731 17 днів тому +3

    There are a lot of independent journalists in Russia, especially among war journalists, but there is one common thing among them, they are pro-Russian. Not anti-Russian propagandists sponsored by Western funds. Off course if you are working for enemies of Russia, you will have problems. I think this true for any country.

    • @adnanalikhan6890
      @adnanalikhan6890 16 днів тому

      Exactly. What was he thinking 🤔. He was probably doing it for some big promotion or something. But now he learnt he needs to respect local laws.

  • @spipo1903
    @spipo1903 17 днів тому +3

    good decision by russia western jounalism is double standard

  • @sankadon2538
    @sankadon2538 16 днів тому

    ❤🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇱🇰🇱🇰🇱🇰❤🇷🇺🇷🇺

  • @VivalaryMan
    @VivalaryMan 17 днів тому +1

    Oh well, what can you do? They knew the risks, anyway..

  • @archyarchfiendx2938
    @archyarchfiendx2938 17 днів тому +4

    🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ronnie917
      @ronnie917 17 днів тому +2

      🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @archyarchfiendx2938
      @archyarchfiendx2938 17 днів тому +1

      @@ronnie917 yes they are. You are too lol

  • @marisabenson1222
    @marisabenson1222 17 днів тому

    Taurus Taurus Taurus

  • @icu17siberia
    @icu17siberia 17 днів тому

    This is why Russians come to this channel. Information is lacking in Russia

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 17 днів тому +3

      When have you been in Russia last time?

  • @w1113zuch
    @w1113zuch 16 днів тому

    😂 нашли где лазать 😂

  • @ashokindian36
    @ashokindian36 17 днів тому

    😂🎉 collection of documents 😂🎉

  • @LuV2SPDup
    @LuV2SPDup 17 днів тому +1

    No one should go do any journalism in Russia.

    • @LuV2SPDup
      @LuV2SPDup 17 днів тому +3

      @@suportbghelp4938, no money is worth rotting in Russia. Average citizens are rotting away, and they are not even in prison.

    • @srve1149
      @srve1149 17 днів тому +2

      "Journalism" yea right.

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 17 днів тому +2

      @@LuV2SPDupHave you ever been in Russia?

    • @LuV2SPDup
      @LuV2SPDup 14 днів тому

      @claus-not-santa , I've been to Moscow in the late 1980s, a few times. I've been there in 2006 as well. In 2006, I was there after living in the US since 1991, and honestly, I didn't have a good experience. People were very rude and obnoxious. There were nice people as well that I met, but mostly, they were rude. Maybe because of my accent. Originally, I was born in western Ukraine, so I speak Ukrainian and Hungarian. I do speak Russian fluently, but I always had an accent, even when living in the USSR. I've also been to Leningrad, and I visited many places there.

    • @claus-not-santa
      @claus-not-santa 14 днів тому

      @@LuV2SPDup I was not allowed to visit Eastern Block countries as I have been NATO soldier with highest security class when I was living 5 years in Finland I in 2002 decided to visit St. Petersburg.
      I was very disappointed when I came there........in positive way!! NOTHING there was like I thought it should be according to my NATO indoctrination ! After my first visit I started doing a lot of very nice business in Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan and travelled a lot and met many people, both in business and private as I never stayed in hotel, but rented a furnished apartment. When I became 60 I sold my company to 2 of my skilled employees and since that I visit Russia as often as I can as tourist. In summers I use to stay 2-3 months and travel around with my own car. Last trip was 18.732 km in Russia plus 2 times 4.500 km from home and back again. In 2022 I bought a new apartment in Caucasus and use it as base for my travels.