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I appreciate your videos and content very much. We have alot in common altho ypu do way better video production and even production of materials and tools, devices. But I really just made the comment to say thank you. I've been toying with the idea to make one of these for a long time but at the water meter location for our city water supply. I just have yet had the proper motivation. However you have proven I'm not so crazy with this idea after all.
Check your flow rate without the shower head (what's actually going through the hose you're using). Many showerheads have a flow limiter and what you showed on camera was ~2gpm as expected but then you removed the head for connection to the generator. Check this then adjust your math if it's different. Most homes are at least 4-5gpm. And for those that say there's no point if there's a pump somewhere, the point is to save YOU money/energy, not the utility, and you wouldn't run your shower just to charge your phone. You're already running the shower to wash so why not use the energy at the same time instead of literally flushing it down the drain? It would be better, though, if you had a generator tied into your water line just inside the supply so anytime anyone used water anywhere on the property you get to power something, maybe a small battery bank or a fan.
Could it be that the gap between the wheel and the 3D printed walls is so narrow that friction due to excess water now flowing down fast enough, causing the wheel to spin slower? I mean if that is the case then it is not only friction but also each "cup" on the wheel has push an x mass of water while it rotates
Dude, you need an isolation transformer. Also isn't the three phase wiring you converted to more efficient? Like that's why 3 phase is generally used for.
I really like how you're putting up the equations and showing how to solve them. Exposure like that is super important to helping people get more used to the mathematics.
I agree. Seeing the equation is nice. I can show a (glee generation child) the video and not have them believe you just asked alexa or aliens for the answer. You did the work and they can see it applied in the same video.
I love videos that are like this. stuff made here, smarter every day, you, its these channels holding me on UA-cam. Thank you for making my day, keep it going.
Idea for the next video, installing a pelton to harvest the power from the urinal :P But being serious, I love your new BUILD and would love to see a part 2 of this project!
First: I really love your content. Regarding improvement tips. You already got some electronic tips. So here a mechanical improvement. The pelton with two scoops per row spits half of the water to the top. Which in turn slows the turbine down while falling down because of gravity and on escape to the side :-). Maybe switching to a one scoop per row turbine fed at the high point and shooting out the water only to the bottom will increase efficiency.
weekend stuff, thats sounds better. if i understand your suggestion its basically rotate the device 90° So that the stream is down and splashback is up and away. Im not shure about a single cup pelton wheel improving unless its the plastic twisting stress adding a harmonic wiggle your concerned with. If so, i guess used the 3d print as a cast for puter or other metal casting pour? Somthing with more strength. Or an epoxy layer to reduce plastic deflection /cup twist. Cuz who has time for casting
@@scottadams3544, if you are able to rotate the complete device 90deg then no need for a single scoop pelton IMHO. The single scoop pelton was only ment to be used if the orientation of the device stays. But you are right there will be an issue with unbalanced forces. Regarding casting a metal pelton, using lost form casting, I could support with the furnace but I don't have access to a 3D printer (yet) :-). And it usually takes more than one try (for me) to get the castings right... So going with turning the device 90deg seems to be the easiest fix.
Hey Quint, some thoughts on the electric side of the project: these simple buck converters are probably not very well suited for the project. You're dealing with a heavy variing input voltage that will probably drop a lot when put under load (e.i. when your Smartfone is connected). What could wirk pretty well is a buffer - let's call it a rechargeable battery. And since you have this wide range voltage input, you can use a solar charge regulator for the charging of the battery: solar panels hve a wide voltage range and the voltage drops depending on the load. A cheap TP5100 regulator would be my choice for a test - you get these in china for pennies. With a 3.7V battery connected, you can use a small boost converter to generate 5V to charge your fone. Keep up the good work with your videos!
I love how you use real-world problems as an opportunity to teach your children real-world solutions and lessons. It’s the best way to spend time with your children and teach them so many different things that they can use in their future. 🤙🏽👏🏽👌🏽I try to follow this with mine.
Thank you, thank you thank you! These videos are awesome and is exactly perfect for my learning style. Great, subject matter with fierce tenacity. Great job!
Hi, I am not an export, but I saw this same concept in The Great Escape with Richard and Tory on Amazon. When they overdid the flow with the wheel, they got and effect that made their wheel a lot slower.
Quint it is likely you are over speeding the alternator. It's likely designed for shaft speeds around the 150 to 200 Hz output range. With many alternators they are designed for a given shaft rpm range, if they are running outside of that range their efficiency drops off Another thing to look at is your bridge rectifier suitable for the frequency you are feeding it with the high RPM of the Pelton wheel? You could try a larger sized jet to flow more water to increase torque to the unit. You are playing with compromises regardless of the math.
go back to the wye wiring and instead of using a normal 3 phase rectifier, use thyristors with an arduino to control the firing angle. Your dc out voltage is determined by the angle. Then you can the converters at the input voltage where they are most efficient. My theory here is similar to MPPT instead of PWM for solar in that I think you need to keep the velocity of the generator rotor in the sweet spot as well.
Great video .This is a great idea!. My suggestion would be tapping into the flow from the main water inlet into the property by fitting a turbine to convert the flow to electrical power, it would be be easier than tapping each individual water outlet to generate power as the flow rate of the incoming water supply is much greater and only one turbine would be required. Using this method power would be generated everytime a tap or faucet or appliance such as dishwasher, shower, washing machine, bath etc; is used. Using hydro power for generating electricity in the home is essential now that energy costs are spiralling.
this is a great suggestion, you could put a larger generator on the main line to power/charge a large battery for the house to run of of and put smaller generators onto the spigots to power water heaters…the water heaters can have batteries that would heat the water instantly on demand and use the power generated from use to recharge an continuously heat the water being used…
I'd die happy knowing someone charged their phone with the power of ... going to see a man about a dog ;) And now that my high school sense of humor is satisfied, great work, love your videos, keep em coming!
I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I'm taking my board exam this month, I'll definitely recalculate everything. In this way, maybe it will help me master fluid mechanics and some basic electronics. However, I just finished reviewing and it's 3:20 AM in my country. I'll try it tomorrow. BTW, you have great parenting skills. I salute you as an engineer and as a father figure 🫡
You could try rigging up something to measure the torque from the Pelton wheel. Perhaps mount the whole unit on a pivot, with an arm to a weighing scale or something. That way you could measure the mechanical power being generated by the turbine under various speeds and loads etc. and compare it with the electrical output from the generator.
Go back to Y wiring and plug a solar mppt charger onto it. The MPPT will alter the current draw to make the Pelton wheel spin at a speed that will give peak efficiency.
Imagine, Using Shower, Using Stove Gas, Using almost everything at the house, All Connected to charge the Batteries to those appliances that doesn't produce energy. MAN!!! House might be a Power Plant hahaha!!! Awesome Stuff. I wish in the next 5-10 Years, Houses can now produce power enough to power other houses as well. Probably will solve our Electricity crisis to the countries that needs it. Heck, might even contribute to save global warming. Oh man! That Idea is pretty much Futuristic. Love this video!
Try to use an mppt solar charge controller to convert from higher voltage to low. The mppt, constantly monitors the input voltage and tries to squeeze as much energy as possible, without pulling too much.
The channel as a whole is always top-notch quality, there's nothing new about that. But the thumbnail... yes, THAT THUMBNAIL! the thumbnail is an absolute masterpiece!!!! The only thing I would have changed is having someone use the water in the shower. I don't know, maybe giving the dog a shower?
I truly find ur show's very interesting and intriguing. What unique ideas u have, which makes it fun and entertaining. Great job man, absolute thumbs up. 👍 And yes, keep going with the shower experiment.
This is why maximum power point trackers exist. Also, not all bearings work that well in all orientations. You now have the bearing "faced down", sometimes these bearings work better facing sideways.
There is a practical use of using water pressure as backup power. It's a water pressure powered backup sump pump. It uses the venturi principle to create a partial vacuum, that can suck water out of your sump basin. Generally used as a backup pump. I'm sure it's not very efficient, and of course increases your water bill. But it's a very reliable pump that doesn't fail when the power goes out.
I’d love to see if a reduction gearbox would solve the power problem by slowing down the generator and reducing the load on the water wheel to help with surging.
It is not a power problem, it's an over voltage problem. Whatever power the generator produces, he wants all of it. He doesn't have excess power, he has excess voltage.
Current and voltage are directly proportional if the voltage doubles the current doubles if the voltage is halved the current is halved. If you plot it on a graph a change in voltage results in a linearly proportional change in current no matter what your load is assuming it stays constant.
In the mid to late 1800's a device was commonly sold that hooked up to your home faucet that generated electricity to run electric appliances. It was the easy cheap way to produce power. I was shocked when I first heard of these, I didn't know we had electrical appliances in the 1800's. These are the things they don't teach you in school.
Hi there: Wild guess. 1. Slow your jet stream a little bit to counter the 500hz problem. You might lose some output because of it, but it's better than your generator thrashing from being run too fast. 2. You may have some losses in the wiring. Try shortening the length a bit. 3. By using the Delta config, you may have made things harder for yourself. Use the voltage converter to limit your current prior to any other electronics that will performing the actions of charging the phone. That way your converter can take that 65v's from the Wye setup instead of the Delta setup and convert it into a higher amperage instead. (Assuming I understand correctly.) 4. How well lubed are your gears and other apparatuses? Use some silicon lube I think. Or more of it if you are already using some. Might not be quite enough to get a proper glide. 5. Stick a hybrid ultracapacitor between the converter and charging station. (I think) This way the capacitor can help smooth out the flow of power between devices by acting as a reservoir or dam of sorts. 6. Split your jet into two separate streams using a Y split before the water exits. This way you can hit both of the spoons on the impeller. Or possibly from different angles to increase output? You will definitely be splitting the psi output of the water, but by splitting that output into separate spots, you can make a more controlled spin occur, maybe. Or better yet, you could run two generators with half the psi on each; thus taking that 65v output of one and turning it into 32.5v between two instead. This can then be run to those capacitors I mentioned earlier, and create a more solid flow of power. (i think) That's about all I can think of. I am not an electrical engineer. I just read things and look at stuff and etc. I think changing the Wye to Delta was a mistake overall.
Can you make a video on vaccum water pump and how it can be used in commercial and residential case for fulfilling water pumping and electricity generation. THANKS
Not sure if someone else commented this, phones only charge at 2.5W when supplied 5V, you will need a QuickCharge/PowerDelivery circuit board from a battery bank to charge the mobile device at 15+ Watts. Just use the buck converters to supply it the Li-ion battery voltage.
Hi, to get maximum of the pelton turbine, the velocity of blades should be half the speed of water going from the nozzle. So you can try put there some gearbox.
You are having a great loss from voltage drop the amps and load from your PWM or pulse-width modulation charger. You need an MPPT charger or Maximum Power Point Tracking charger. With this you can use it at the full power point the motor is good at and power 10 or 15 phones for an example 52 volts * 1 amp is 52 watts 5 volts * 1 amp is 5 watts
- The Generator is producing Great Voltage, but Amps is determined by the size of the windings and the Load on the Generator, Which would require more force to rotate the generator. Try putting A Higher Load, Your phone was Drawing the right Volt/Amp load for Just sitting there like it was. - I Always Love your Videos!
Hi, This is absolutely beautiful,!!! I am working In my notes, I am very close to having enough Research, info, that can be put into a booklet. So, I will be starting on my booklet, that explains, step by step, how TO: build a house Tiny house, Campers, or anything else. And make it ( self sustained ), generating it's Own, power" to recharge a battery bank.!!
Gotta find that MPP sweet spot! Now jam this in your basement/crawl space where the water enters you house so you can capture all the kinetic energy from your water usage! ;)
So, the thing to do is: put a bi-pass in the main water line passing your property (provided it is something easy to do like it would be with a large pvc pipe like my water supply has in the country) and have the electric apparatus set up there. Then you would get power from all water to your home and everyone else's down the line. (I don't understand all the electric stuff, mental block for years)
I am a bit late to the party, but I have a possible suggestion. I had to work recently with bearings in high air pressure. One of the problems I had to work around was the air pushing out the oil of the bearing. I think here could be happening something similar. As your first bearing got clocked, I think its possible that the water gets into your bearing and washes the oil out. (I am sorry for my bad english, am not native. Still hope its understandible.)
Delta is a 3 phase, 3 wire setup. Wye or star is a 3 phase, 4 wire setup. If you used the centre tap and one of the phases, you will get a much lower voltage.
I have a project Challenge for you, What if you could cycle your rain water and turn it into a constant flow cycle, DIY- catch the water in a reservoir- a camping cooler double wide. Keep half of the top of the cooler open. Use a camping water cooler with a screw off top- drill a 2 inch hole at the top, and a 2 inch hole at the opposite side at the bottom- attach a 2 inch diameter hose at the top and seal it, add a 2 inch diameter PVC and plug up the end to prevent water from escaping and seal the PVC to the container, fill water all the way to the top Seal the top with a strong plastic bag to create a vacuum, put the lid back on to seal and lock the bag in place.- Drill a hole in the double wide cooler at the bottom side 2 inch hole and attach the hose to it and seal it to the cooler. The side of the cooler you attached the hose to, keep the top closed on the cooler. The other side keep open. Put the water cooler on top of the closed side of the food cooler. Fill the cooler half way, with rain water. Attach a water wheel at the top where the water will flow to produce a current the flows into the cooler. Attach the motor on the outside of the cooler to keep it dry and produce electricity! I'm a huge fan! Your videos are fun to listen to while I drive!
Very interesting project. I think you can rewind the generator with thicker copper wire so that the current will increase. This will also help in reducing the speed of the turbine.
If you shower without using the generator all that energy is also there and I assume it will be converted into heat, does that mean that when you shower with the generator the water comes out slightly colder? Like if the water heater is 70W less powerful?
might help to have gearing done to harness it better. although i don't know how much you might lose in parasitic friction from them. might be worth a look though.
I’m curious whether it would be possible to generate electricity through the electrostatic buildup between the ground and the clouds during a thunderstorm system. The apparatus would involve a very large kite connected to a beefy cable able to handle the enormous electrical loads, where normally a small wire would be vaporized upon spontaneous discharge. This would at the very least neutralize the charge build up that causes lightning and would prevent damage in the local area from it. It could also serve as an emergency source of electricity in case wind damage destroys power lines for a local community. Also would reduce people’s electric bills through storage of electricity and returning it back to a power company without regulations required around solar power. Obviously it’s more dangerous, but if it has to be dangerous because dumb zoning laws restrict the usage of solar panels, then so be it.
i think you should upgrade the electrical stuff instead of turning down the capicity of the mechanical parts. because that is where you loose your power, by downgrading stuff and not using it`s full potential, and you get different results every time you use it.
Conservation of energy could run to the extreme if you really wanted it and build a system that utilizes some waste energy. You can't create something out of nothing but you could absolutely utilize every expenditure of energy you use. Good thinking and you give me many ideas
the water cover is causing water to bounce back, try making a cover that allows all water to flow away without bounce back, water and air turbulence will effect, turning water wheel 1/4 turn so water and air follows with gravity, and make a new shield like a large motorcycle fender that allows water not to bounce back and allow turbulence and gravity to assist the spinning.
Can you make a video on using water pressure tanks as energy storage. It would be cool to see if air pressure inside the tank could make up for having a water energy storage without the elevation. Thanks.
I can see many possible improvements to this build. First is the large closed bearing .It will be a big energy looser with water coming out at high speed wanting to impart its energy on a wheel with low water mass. Try a smaller diameter shaft with 2 ball bearing sets spaced apart (even open ended s/s bearings are far better). Second is the generator . Getting the correct generator for the job is very important. Selecting the correct generator with windings not too thick or too thin or too big in diameter can be a bit tricky. You need the water to come out out the turbine dropping vertically if possible imparting all it's energy. Imagine a base ball player catching a ball , absorbing all that energy and then dropping the ball to the ground. This is how all these water powered generators should work to impart maximum energy. The third very important potential energy looser is the jet nozzle and pipe set up . This is a biggie and has many similarities to resistance in an electrical circuit and is poorly understood. I won't go into this rather I would like to see how you do with the first 2 ideas. Keep up with the good work!!
At 3:19, i just visualized myself on my motorcycle, but instead of following I am in front of your vehicle, and I'm looking in my rear view mirror at some nightmare of a four wheeled blender trying to eat me.
I see it in extreme efficiency home. Like filling water tower from solar energy when you are at work. At taking some back when you shower after work when sun has gone. But it probably will be we go low only for going low.
I would love to see you try and optimize this and see if you can generate electricity cheaper then you get it out of the wall and cheaper then the cost of the water per gal. Might be fun to see if you could back feed your electric meter with a water waste solution.
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I appreciate your videos and content very much. We have alot in common altho ypu do way better video production and even production of materials and tools, devices.
But I really just made the comment to say thank you. I've been toying with the idea to make one of these for a long time but at the water meter location for our city water supply. I just have yet had the proper motivation. However you have proven I'm not so crazy with this idea after all.
Check your flow rate without the shower head (what's actually going through the hose you're using). Many showerheads have a flow limiter and what you showed on camera was ~2gpm as expected but then you removed the head for connection to the generator. Check this then adjust your math if it's different. Most homes are at least 4-5gpm.
And for those that say there's no point if there's a pump somewhere, the point is to save YOU money/energy, not the utility, and you wouldn't run your shower just to charge your phone. You're already running the shower to wash so why not use the energy at the same time instead of literally flushing it down the drain? It would be better, though, if you had a generator tied into your water line just inside the supply so anytime anyone used water anywhere on the property you get to power something, maybe a small battery bank or a fan.
I Didn't see you k factor designing your nozzle
Could it be that the gap between the wheel and the 3D printed walls is so narrow that friction due to excess water now flowing down fast enough, causing the wheel to spin slower?
I mean if that is the case then it is not only friction but also each "cup" on the wheel has push an x mass of water while it rotates
Dude, you need an isolation transformer.
Also isn't the three phase wiring you converted to more efficient?
Like that's why 3 phase is generally used for.
I love how you sacrifice your home just for our entertainment. You're really an awesome creator.
also u can tell he's a pro in doin that by the blue lab coat XD
And for his entertainment too
He lives in the woods as far as I know
I think this dudes a legend too. Wish all teachers were as passionate as him. My daughters going to be studying this channel in a few years
@@arielkozak ❤😅😂s
I really like how you're putting up the equations and showing how to solve them. Exposure like that is super important to helping people get more used to the mathematics.
I agree. Seeing the equation is nice. I can show a (glee generation child) the video and not have them believe you just asked alexa or aliens for the answer. You did the work and they can see it applied in the same video.
10:00 reminding me of my granpa, he was teaching me some electric stuff when I was ~8, and sadly, he passed away a year ago. What a great memory
I love videos that are like this. stuff made here, smarter every day, you, its these channels holding me on UA-cam. Thank you for making my day, keep it going.
You like those maker daddies
@@skinife Makers daddies are the best.
Idea for the next video, installing a pelton to harvest the power from the urinal :P But being serious, I love your new BUILD and would love to see a part 2 of this project!
You had to use the tongue out emoji immediately after talking about urinals
Yes. I like this idea.
Or flushing the upstairs toilet 😉
First: I really love your content. Regarding improvement tips. You already got some electronic tips. So here a mechanical improvement. The pelton with two scoops per row spits half of the water to the top. Which in turn slows the turbine down while falling down because of gravity and on escape to the side :-). Maybe switching to a one scoop per row turbine fed at the high point and shooting out the water only to the bottom will increase efficiency.
weekend stuff, thats sounds better.
if i understand your suggestion its basically rotate the device 90° So that the stream is down and splashback is up and away.
Im not shure about a single cup pelton wheel improving unless its the plastic twisting stress adding a harmonic wiggle your concerned with. If so, i guess used the 3d print as a cast for puter or other metal casting pour? Somthing with more strength. Or an epoxy layer to reduce plastic deflection /cup twist. Cuz who has time for casting
@@scottadams3544, if you are able to rotate the complete device 90deg then no need for a single scoop pelton IMHO. The single scoop pelton was only ment to be used if the orientation of the device stays. But you are right there will be an issue with unbalanced forces. Regarding casting a metal pelton, using lost form casting, I could support with the furnace but I don't have access to a 3D printer (yet) :-). And it usually takes more than one try (for me) to get the castings right... So going with turning the device 90deg seems to be the easiest fix.
What an interesting concept! Thanks for sharing your BUILD and the process you took to get there!
Now I can feel less guilty taking a 4-hour shower. I'm producing power, mom!
280wh gained(assuming you got the 70w he said was possible). Probably like 80kwh used to heat the water. 😀
Hey Quint,
some thoughts on the electric side of the project: these simple buck converters are probably not very well suited for the project. You're dealing with a heavy variing input voltage that will probably drop a lot when put under load (e.i. when your Smartfone is connected).
What could wirk pretty well is a buffer - let's call it a rechargeable battery. And since you have this wide range voltage input, you can use a solar charge regulator for the charging of the battery: solar panels hve a wide voltage range and the voltage drops depending on the load.
A cheap TP5100 regulator would be my choice for a test - you get these in china for pennies. With a 3.7V battery connected, you can use a small boost converter to generate 5V to charge your fone.
Keep up the good work with your videos!
I would be more intrested in collecting the heat from the shower water that goes down the drain. 🙂 It is so much more energy. 🙂
There are products that do this. It's basically a coil of copper that feeds your cold water supply to the shower, recycling the heat immediately.
@@yosemiteanemone4714 true.
I love how you use real-world problems as an opportunity to teach your children real-world solutions and lessons. It’s the best way to spend time with your children and teach them so many different things that they can use in their future. 🤙🏽👏🏽👌🏽I try to follow this with mine.
"Since metric makes everything easier". Thanks a lot !
You answered my questions about the shower, rain gutters and also potential energy storage with the water stored on your roof. Thank you!
I have a rule to like all videos where someone puts a DSO on top of a toilet.
LOL!
I bet your wife really enjoys projects inside the house 🤣 great video as always
if the videos pay the bills or for a vacation, i'm sure she does!
@@Jasonoid My wife would just roll her eyes and say make you put it back together when you’re done lol
Thank you, thank you thank you! These videos are awesome and is exactly perfect for my learning style. Great, subject matter with fierce tenacity. Great job!
Hi, I am not an export, but I saw this same concept in The Great Escape with Richard and Tory on Amazon. When they overdid the flow with the wheel, they got and effect that made their wheel a lot slower.
Man your videos are just brilliant! So much fun 👍🏼
Please do look into this further, it's very exciting.
Keep up the good work
Love all of your experiments. it gives meaning and fun to all these apparently dull formulas
Quint it is likely you are over speeding the alternator. It's likely designed for shaft speeds around the 150 to 200 Hz output range.
With many alternators they are designed for a given shaft rpm range, if they are running outside of that range their efficiency drops off
Another thing to look at is your bridge rectifier suitable for the frequency you are feeding it with the high RPM of the Pelton wheel?
You could try a larger sized jet to flow more water to increase torque to the unit.
You are playing with compromises regardless of the math.
go back to the wye wiring and instead of using a normal 3 phase rectifier, use thyristors with an arduino to control the firing angle. Your dc out voltage is determined by the angle. Then you can the converters at the input voltage where they are most efficient. My theory here is similar to MPPT instead of PWM for solar in that I think you need to keep the velocity of the generator rotor in the sweet spot as well.
Great video .This is a great idea!. My suggestion would be tapping into the flow from the main water inlet into the property by fitting a turbine to convert the flow to electrical power, it would be be easier than tapping each individual water outlet to generate power as the flow rate of the incoming water supply is much greater and only one turbine would be required. Using this method power would be generated everytime a tap or faucet or appliance such as dishwasher, shower, washing machine, bath etc; is used. Using hydro power for generating electricity in the home is essential now that energy costs are spiralling.
this is a great suggestion, you could put a larger generator on the main line to power/charge a large battery for the house to run of of and put smaller generators onto the spigots to power water heaters…the water heaters can have batteries that would heat the water instantly on demand and use the power generated from use to recharge an continuously heat the water being used…
I'd die happy knowing someone charged their phone with the power of ... going to see a man about a dog ;)
And now that my high school sense of humor is satisfied, great work, love your videos, keep em coming!
So cool that you involve your kids in the projects
I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I'm taking my board exam this month, I'll definitely recalculate everything. In this way, maybe it will help me master fluid mechanics and some basic electronics. However, I just finished reviewing and it's 3:20 AM in my country. I'll try it tomorrow.
BTW, you have great parenting skills. I salute you as an engineer and as a father figure 🫡
You could try rigging up something to measure the torque from the Pelton wheel. Perhaps mount the whole unit on a pivot, with an arm to a weighing scale or something. That way you could measure the mechanical power being generated by the turbine under various speeds and loads etc. and compare it with the electrical output from the generator.
the quality of the editing and the graphics are gettin better and better. awsome channel. cheers from italy!
Amazing video and creativity. This is why I love the internet!
Go back to Y wiring and plug a solar mppt charger onto it. The MPPT will alter the current draw to make the Pelton wheel spin at a speed that will give peak efficiency.
Imagine, Using Shower, Using Stove Gas, Using almost everything at the house, All Connected to charge the Batteries to those appliances that doesn't produce energy. MAN!!! House might be a Power Plant hahaha!!! Awesome Stuff.
I wish in the next 5-10 Years, Houses can now produce power enough to power other houses as well. Probably will solve our Electricity crisis to the countries that needs it. Heck, might even contribute to save global warming. Oh man! That Idea is pretty much Futuristic. Love this video!
Try to use an mppt solar charge controller to convert from higher voltage to low. The mppt, constantly monitors the input voltage and tries to squeeze as much energy as possible, without pulling too much.
Add the same idea watching this.
The wall mount really took me off guard. That's dedication if I ever saw it.
Keep fiddling with it and you’ll get it. The more energy you extract the lower the discharge pressure and/or flow will be.
I hated Science lessons with a passion as a kid. Thank you for making Science fun, interesting and understandable 😀
If I learned things like this in school, I probably wouldn't have hated shop class so much.
Maybe way back when. These days, if there even is a shop, you nearly have to take a separate safety course to even get close to a saw.
The channel as a whole is always top-notch quality, there's nothing new about that. But the thumbnail... yes, THAT THUMBNAIL! the thumbnail is an absolute masterpiece!!!! The only thing I would have changed is having someone use the water in the shower. I don't know, maybe giving the dog a shower?
I truly find ur show's very interesting and intriguing. What unique ideas u have, which makes it fun and entertaining. Great job man, absolute thumbs up. 👍 And yes, keep going with the shower experiment.
I laughed when you simplified the simplified Bernoulli equation. It's just so fun to see out assumptions take away all out work.
Oh, I think that the 80 psi might not be from the city, but the water regulator on your house. Something I learned recently and stuck with me.
Extraordinary. Finish it and find out if there is problem or not.
I'm always happy to see a new QuintBUILDs!
Oh man your videos are so very underrated. I wish I had this when I was doing my renewable energy project over 10 years ago!
Put the generator back to star and use an xmfr to lower the voltage then rectify it to DC
This is why maximum power point trackers exist. Also, not all bearings work that well in all orientations. You now have the bearing "faced down", sometimes these bearings work better facing sideways.
Agreed on both points! 👍
There is a practical use of using water pressure as backup power. It's a water pressure powered backup sump pump. It uses the venturi principle to create a partial vacuum, that can suck water out of your sump basin. Generally used as a backup pump.
I'm sure it's not very efficient, and of course increases your water bill. But it's a very reliable pump that doesn't fail when the power goes out.
I’d love to see if a reduction gearbox would solve the power problem by slowing down the generator and reducing the load on the water wheel to help with surging.
I was thinking a transformer with the first coil config might be the way to go
Depends completely on the optimal speed of the impeller
It is not a power problem, it's an over voltage problem. Whatever power the generator produces, he wants all of it. He doesn't have excess power, he has excess voltage.
12:25 I love the absurdity of this scene. It would be very difficult to guess what you are doing without any context.
8:21 I was looking away for a second and that thing popping out of the shower tripped me out 😂
LOL!
OMG, you lost me w/all that math you was doing. It fried my mind. But you really make it fun to watch.
Thank you & be safe,
Chris from Missouri
Great stuff! I'm happy I found your channel
That's an awesome idea to use the water systems already in the house to get power back on
Current and voltage are directly proportional if the voltage doubles the current doubles if the voltage is halved the current is halved. If you plot it on a graph a change in voltage results in a linearly proportional change in current no matter what your load is assuming it stays constant.
Is that true for a diode too?
In the mid to late 1800's a device was commonly sold that hooked up to your home faucet that generated electricity to run electric appliances. It was the easy cheap way to produce power. I was shocked when I first heard of these, I didn't know we had electrical appliances in the 1800's. These are the things they don't teach you in school.
Hi there: Wild guess.
1. Slow your jet stream a little bit to counter the 500hz problem. You might lose some output because of it, but it's better than your generator thrashing from being run too fast.
2. You may have some losses in the wiring. Try shortening the length a bit.
3. By using the Delta config, you may have made things harder for yourself. Use the voltage converter to limit your current prior to any other electronics that will performing the actions of charging the phone. That way your converter can take that 65v's from the Wye setup instead of the Delta setup and convert it into a higher amperage instead. (Assuming I understand correctly.)
4. How well lubed are your gears and other apparatuses? Use some silicon lube I think. Or more of it if you are already using some. Might not be quite enough to get a proper glide.
5. Stick a hybrid ultracapacitor between the converter and charging station. (I think) This way the capacitor can help smooth out the flow of power between devices by acting as a reservoir or dam of sorts.
6. Split your jet into two separate streams using a Y split before the water exits. This way you can hit both of the spoons on the impeller. Or possibly from different angles to increase output? You will definitely be splitting the psi output of the water, but by splitting that output into separate spots, you can make a more controlled spin occur, maybe. Or better yet, you could run two generators with half the psi on each; thus taking that 65v output of one and turning it into 32.5v between two instead. This can then be run to those capacitors I mentioned earlier, and create a more solid flow of power. (i think)
That's about all I can think of. I am not an electrical engineer. I just read things and look at stuff and etc.
I think changing the Wye to Delta was a mistake overall.
Great Channel. I gotta binge watch now.
Can you make a video on vaccum water pump and how it can be used in commercial and residential case for fulfilling water pumping and electricity generation. THANKS
Not sure if someone else commented this, phones only charge at 2.5W when supplied 5V, you will need a QuickCharge/PowerDelivery circuit board from a battery bank to charge the mobile device at 15+ Watts. Just use the buck converters to supply it the Li-ion battery voltage.
Hi, to get maximum of the pelton turbine, the velocity of blades should be half the speed of water going from the nozzle. So you can try put there some gearbox.
wish you was around when i was in school, your doing a servce to these kids.
3:44 master of explanation !!!
You are having a great loss from voltage drop the amps and load from your PWM or pulse-width modulation charger. You need an MPPT charger or Maximum Power Point Tracking charger. With this you can use it at the full power point the motor is good at and power 10 or 15 phones
for an example 52 volts * 1 amp is 52 watts
5 volts * 1 amp is 5 watts
Here in Brazil we use electrical showers. Usually 5.400W or 7.200W
"ponder hydro power" is that a sneaky orb meme reference? amazing!
- The Generator is producing Great Voltage, but Amps is determined by the size of the windings and the Load on the Generator, Which would require more force to rotate the generator. Try putting A Higher Load, Your phone was Drawing the right Volt/Amp load for Just sitting there like it was. - I Always Love your Videos!
1:05 Hey... I've been in and climbed (internally) that water tower to do work on the antennas at the top! :)
Could you change the *diameter* of the Pelton wheel to make it turn at its optimal speed?
He'd have to redesign the whole case, because he's reusing a generator that only supports a certain size. I think a gear reduction would be better.
hello quint, i'm from philippines and i am so glad to follow your works, i love physics too. keep it up...
nice integrated house power idea, try household wood burner integrated generator (turbine, thermo-couple, for example)
low side power, from main primary source (heat, water)
Hi, This is absolutely beautiful,!!! I am working
In my notes, I am very close to having enough
Research, info, that can be put into a booklet.
So, I will be starting on my booklet, that explains, step by step, how TO: build a house
Tiny house, Campers, or anything else. And make it ( self sustained ), generating it's
Own, power" to recharge a battery bank.!!
Gotta find that MPP sweet spot!
Now jam this in your basement/crawl space where the water enters you house so you can capture all the kinetic energy from your water usage! ;)
So, the thing to do is: put a bi-pass in the main water line passing your property (provided it is something easy to do like it would be with a large pvc pipe like my water supply has in the country) and have the electric apparatus set up there. Then you would get power from all water to your home and everyone else's down the line. (I don't understand all the electric stuff, mental block for years)
Dude, I've always wondered this. Thanks!
I am a bit late to the party, but I have a possible suggestion. I had to work recently with bearings in high air pressure. One of the problems I had to work around was the air pushing out the oil of the bearing. I think here could be happening something similar. As your first bearing got clocked, I think its possible that the water gets into your bearing and washes the oil out. (I am sorry for my bad english, am not native. Still hope its understandible.)
Gues you need a MPPT to match the impedance of the load to the source
It's not an impedance problem. It's an over voltage problem.
Delta is a 3 phase, 3 wire setup. Wye or star is a 3 phase, 4 wire setup. If you used the centre tap and one of the phases, you will get a much lower voltage.
I have a project Challenge for you, What if you could cycle your rain water and turn it into a constant flow cycle, DIY- catch the water in a reservoir- a camping cooler double wide. Keep half of the top of the cooler open. Use a camping water cooler with a screw off top- drill a 2 inch hole at the top, and a 2 inch hole at the opposite side at the bottom- attach a 2 inch diameter hose at the top and seal it, add a 2 inch diameter PVC and plug up the end to prevent water from escaping and seal the PVC to the container, fill water all the way to the top
Seal the top with a strong plastic bag to create a vacuum, put the lid back on to seal and lock the bag in place.- Drill a hole in the double wide cooler at the bottom side 2 inch hole and attach the hose to it and seal it to the cooler. The side of the cooler you attached the hose to, keep the top closed on the cooler. The other side keep open. Put the water cooler on top of the closed side of the food cooler. Fill the cooler half way, with rain water. Attach a water wheel at the top where the water will flow to produce a current the flows into the cooler. Attach the motor on the outside of the cooler to keep it dry and produce electricity! I'm a huge fan! Your videos are fun to listen to while I drive!
Thank you for this a hugest beneficial video. 😊😊
17:55 I think the friction inside the pipes is one of the variables that decreases the power. 😊
Very interesting project.
I think you can rewind the generator with thicker copper wire so that the current will increase. This will also help in reducing the speed of the turbine.
When you pan up that yellow water tower ....
Hmm. That looks familiar, nah it couldn't be.... yep, it is. Let's hear it for Meridian, ID.
If you shower without using the generator all that energy is also there and I assume it will be converted into heat, does that mean that when you shower with the generator the water comes out slightly colder? Like if the water heater is 70W less powerful?
add a gear reduction to reduce the speed at the generator. lower rpm might play nicer with the wind turbine
might help to have gearing done to harness it better. although i don't know how much you might lose in parasitic friction from them. might be worth a look though.
the dog behind the shower curtain! lol
I’m curious whether it would be possible to generate electricity through the electrostatic buildup between the ground and the clouds during a thunderstorm system.
The apparatus would involve a very large kite connected to a beefy cable able to handle the enormous electrical loads, where normally a small wire would be vaporized upon spontaneous discharge.
This would at the very least neutralize the charge build up that causes lightning and would prevent damage in the local area from it. It could also serve as an emergency source of electricity in case wind damage destroys power lines for a local community. Also would reduce people’s electric bills through storage of electricity and returning it back to a power company without regulations required around solar power.
Obviously it’s more dangerous, but if it has to be dangerous because dumb zoning laws restrict the usage of solar panels, then so be it.
i think you should upgrade the electrical stuff instead of turning down the capicity of the mechanical parts. because that is where you loose your power, by downgrading stuff and not using it`s full potential, and you get different results every time you use it.
Conservation of energy could run to the extreme if you really wanted it and build a system that utilizes some waste energy.
You can't create something out of nothing but you could absolutely utilize every expenditure of energy you use. Good thinking and you give me many ideas
I'm baffled confused and have brain ache 😕 but I really appreciate your video thank you for sharing 😊
For your next video I think you should add some support to that poor glass shelf holding everything before it falls! Lol
How am I only now finding out about this channel. Great video sir. Great engineering approaches/explanation here.
It confused the heck out of me seeing the meridian water tower, I drive by that on the interstate all the time!
the water cover is causing water to bounce back, try making a cover that allows all water to flow away without bounce back, water and air turbulence will effect, turning water wheel 1/4 turn so water and air follows with gravity, and make a new shield like a large motorcycle fender that allows water not to bounce back and allow turbulence and gravity to assist the spinning.
Maximize the power!!! I'm so interested in
Can you make a video on using water pressure tanks as energy storage. It would be cool to see if air pressure inside the tank could make up for having a water energy storage without the elevation. Thanks.
I can see many possible improvements to this build. First is the large closed bearing .It will be a big energy looser with water coming out at high speed wanting to impart its energy on a wheel with low water mass. Try a smaller diameter shaft with 2 ball bearing sets spaced apart (even open ended s/s bearings are far better). Second is the generator . Getting the correct generator for the job is very important. Selecting the correct generator with windings not too thick or too thin or too big in diameter can be a bit tricky. You need the water to come out out the turbine dropping vertically if possible imparting all it's energy. Imagine a base ball player catching a ball , absorbing all that energy and then dropping the ball to the ground. This is how all these water powered generators should work to impart maximum energy. The third very important potential energy looser is the jet nozzle and pipe set up . This is a biggie and has many similarities to resistance in an electrical circuit and is poorly understood. I won't go into this rather I would like to see how you do with the first 2 ideas. Keep up with the good work!!
At 3:19, i just visualized myself on my motorcycle, but instead of following I am in front of your vehicle, and I'm looking in my rear view mirror at some nightmare of a four wheeled blender trying to eat me.
Your pelton wheel is inside a pressurised housing, surrounded by draggy water. Needs a pressure gradient to work effectively.
I see it in extreme efficiency home. Like filling water tower from solar energy when you are at work. At taking some back when you shower after work when sun has gone. But it probably will be we go low only for going low.
I would love to see you try and optimize this and see if you can generate electricity cheaper then you get it out of the wall and cheaper then the cost of the water per gal. Might be fun to see if you could back feed your electric meter with a water waste solution.