@@Robert-r4s4c The Gospel of John is the only book in the Bible which it’s purpose is that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have LIFE IN HIS NAME. (John 20:30-31) To have life in Jesus name as the Christ is to be born again. Baptism is the first act of discipleship, It’s something you do, it’s a work. Disciples are made believers are born. Being born again is a gift. One is born again when you believe in Jesus for eternal life. John 1:12-13 tells us how to be born again. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to BECOME CHILDREN OF GOD, to those who BELIEVE IN HIS NAME: 13 who were BORN, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, BUT OF GOD. Nicodemus was told by Jesus how to be born again: John 3:16-18 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever BELIEVES IN HIM should not perish but HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who BELIEVES IN HIM is not condemned; but he who does NOT believe is condemned already, BECAUSE, he has NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME of the only begotten SON OF GOD. Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God~! NOTE: For John, the title SON OF GOD is a synonym for THE CHRIST (20:30,31).
Not ONE passage of Scripture states what you're affirming . Better "Obey" 24/7/365 ...for a Lifetime ...in order to Qualify by means of Perseverance until death in hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . 100% Score . EITHER/OR . ALL OR NOTHING . Your works are evil . So are mine and every other mere human who's ever existed . Called "sin" . But you reject His Finished Work of Redemption . So , how do you expect to have them forgiven outside of the reception of His Free and Never Deserving Gift of His imputed Righteousness ? How exactly do you think you can be "good enough" to DESERVE His imputed Righteousness ? Affirming the Unaffirmable never rises to the level of coherence . Your entire scheme remains as incoherent as it is contradictory to every conceivable Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/endless Justification before God passage in the Bible . Your view is identical to the Judaizers/unregenerate Scribes and Pharisees (Matthew 23) who provide the Template for all such self righteous Idolatry , rejecting His Finished Work of Redemption in favor of one's Perseverance in Performance to Earn the Unearnrable Gift that He alone purchased .
@ok-qt4kr Easy believism (perverted grace) is the belief that there are no moral laws God expects Christians to obey. Easy believism takes a biblical teaching to an unbiblical conclusion. The biblical teaching is that Christians are not required to observe the Old Testament Law as a means of salvation. When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He fulfilled the Old Testament Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). The unbiblical conclusion is that there is no moral law God expects Christians to obey. The apostle Paul dealt with the issue of easy believism (perverted grace) in Romans 6:1-2, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” The most frequent attack on the doctrine of salvation by grace alone is that it encourages sin. People may wonder, “If I am saved by grace and all my past sins are forgiven, why not sin all I want?” That thinking is not the result of true conversion because true conversion yields a GREATER DESIRE TO OBEY, NOT a lesser one. God’s desire-and our desire when we are regenerated by His Spirit-is that we strive not to sin. Out of gratitude for His grace and forgiveness, we want to please Him. God has given us His infinitely gracious gift in salvation through Jesus John 3:16; Romans 5:8. Our response is to consecrate our lives to Him out of love, worship, and gratitude for what He has done for us (Romans 12:1-2). Easy believism is unbiblical in that it misapplies the meaning of God’s gracious favor. A second reason that easy believism is unbiblical is that there is a moral law God expects us to obey. First John 5:3 tells us, “This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome.” What is this law God expects us to obey? It is the law of Christ - “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37-40). No, we are not under the Old Testament Law. Yes, we are under the law of Christ. The law of Christ is not an extensive list of legal codes. It is a law of love. IF we love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, we will do nothing to displease Him. IF we love our neighbors as ourselves, we will do nothing to harm them. Obeying the law of Christ is not a requirement to earn or maintain salvation. The law of Christ is what God expects of a Christian. In summary easy believism is contrary to everything the Bible teaches. God expects us to live a life of morality, integrity, and love. Jesus Christ freed us from the burdensome commands of the Old Testament Law, but that is not a license to sin. Rather, it is a covenant of grace. We are to STRIVE TO OVERCOME SIN and cultivate righteousness, depending on the Holy Spirit to help us. Of course those who follow this teaching have never repented of their sins so they don't have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them Acts 2:38 Acts 5:32 Romans 8:9.
@EugeneHolley-rc6ry Mark 1:15 The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent AND believe the good news!” That's the order we find in a couple of other places in the new testament, the words repent or repentance first then belief or believe occur in the same verse and each time repent comes first believe comes second. You cannot repent without believing, you cannot believe without repenting. This is how to obtain grace: You make a decision to turn away from sin and turn to God. That's repentance. By turning away from sin and turning to God, that's an act of faith. You're putting your trust in the Lord Jesus to save you. IF you're going to look to the Lord to save you, then you have to turn away from sin and look to Him. When Jesus says Repent and believe He is saying repentance and faith are 2 sides of the glorious salvific coin. One a turning away from sin and a turning to God. The other putting our faith and trust in God to save us. To save us from those sins which we are turning away.
We are saved by grace through faith, not prayer. Trusting Jesus who is the one who came down from heaven to save the sinner, because he cannot save himself, rely on what he did as enough for the salvation we need. The price he paid for you, and I is what is required for our salvation, his sacrifice was and is still enough to satisfy the wrath of God, he does not need our assistance, only your trust in him being enough.
We we born again by believing in Jesus the Christ the giver of eternal life.
@AlvinFen
According to a few men not scripture
Born again is the Sacrament of Baptism.
@@Robert-r4s4c The Gospel of John is the only book in the Bible which it’s purpose is that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have LIFE IN HIS NAME. (John 20:30-31)
To have life in Jesus name as the Christ is to be born again.
Baptism is the first act of discipleship, It’s something you do, it’s a work. Disciples are made believers are born.
Being born again is a gift. One is born again when you believe in Jesus for eternal life.
John 1:12-13 tells us how to be born again.
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to BECOME CHILDREN OF GOD, to those who BELIEVE IN HIS NAME: 13 who were BORN, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, BUT OF GOD.
Nicodemus was told by Jesus how to be born again:
John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever BELIEVES IN HIM should not perish but HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who BELIEVES IN HIM is not condemned; but he who does NOT believe is condemned already, BECAUSE, he has NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME of the only begotten SON OF GOD.
Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God~!
NOTE: For John, the title SON OF GOD is a synonym for THE CHRIST (20:30,31).
@@Robert-r4s4c
Right
Acts 2:37-41 is the message of salvation.
@@Robert-r4s4c 1 Peter 1:23 is how we are born again.
We are saved by grace through repentance which is the consequence of faith.
Do you have a scriptural reference for your statement?
Not ONE passage of Scripture states what you're affirming .
Better "Obey" 24/7/365 ...for a Lifetime ...in order to Qualify by means of Perseverance until death in hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) .
100% Score .
EITHER/OR .
ALL OR NOTHING .
Your works are evil .
So are mine and every other mere human who's ever existed .
Called "sin" .
But you reject His Finished Work of Redemption .
So , how do you expect to have them forgiven outside of the reception of His Free and Never Deserving Gift of His imputed Righteousness ?
How exactly do you think you can be "good enough" to DESERVE His imputed Righteousness ?
Affirming the Unaffirmable never rises to the level of coherence .
Your entire scheme remains as incoherent as it is contradictory to every conceivable Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/endless Justification before God passage in the Bible .
Your view is identical to the Judaizers/unregenerate Scribes and Pharisees (Matthew 23) who provide the Template for all such self righteous Idolatry , rejecting His Finished Work of Redemption in favor of one's Perseverance in Performance to Earn the Unearnrable Gift that He alone purchased .
@ok-qt4kr
Easy believism (perverted grace) is the belief that there are no moral laws God expects Christians to obey. Easy believism takes a biblical teaching to an unbiblical conclusion. The biblical teaching is that Christians are not required to observe the Old Testament Law as a means of salvation. When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He fulfilled the Old Testament Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).
The unbiblical conclusion is that there is no moral law God expects Christians to obey.
The apostle Paul dealt with the issue of easy believism (perverted grace) in Romans 6:1-2, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” The most frequent attack on the doctrine of salvation by grace alone is that it encourages sin. People may wonder, “If I am saved by grace and all my past sins are forgiven, why not sin all I want?” That thinking is not the result of true conversion because true conversion yields a GREATER DESIRE TO OBEY, NOT a lesser one. God’s desire-and our desire when we are regenerated by His Spirit-is that we strive not to sin. Out of gratitude for His grace and forgiveness, we want to please Him. God has given us His infinitely gracious gift in salvation through Jesus John 3:16; Romans 5:8. Our response is to consecrate our lives to Him out of love, worship, and gratitude for what He has done for us (Romans 12:1-2). Easy believism is unbiblical in that it misapplies the meaning of God’s gracious favor.
A second reason that easy believism is unbiblical is that there is a moral law God expects us to obey. First John 5:3 tells us, “This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome.” What is this law God expects us to obey? It is the law of Christ - “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37-40). No, we are not under the Old Testament Law. Yes, we are under the law of Christ. The law of Christ is not an extensive list of legal codes. It is a law of love. IF we love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, we will do nothing to displease Him. IF we love our neighbors as ourselves, we will do nothing to harm them. Obeying the law of Christ is not a requirement to earn or maintain salvation. The law of Christ is what God expects of a Christian.
In summary easy believism is contrary to everything the Bible teaches. God expects us to live a life of morality, integrity, and love. Jesus Christ freed us from the burdensome commands of the Old Testament Law, but that is not a license to sin. Rather, it is a covenant of grace. We are to STRIVE TO OVERCOME SIN and cultivate righteousness, depending on the Holy Spirit to help us.
Of course those who follow this teaching have never repented of their sins so they don't have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them
Acts 2:38
Acts 5:32
Romans 8:9.
@EugeneHolley-rc6ry
Mark 1:15
The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent AND believe the good news!”
That's the order we find in a couple of other places in the new testament,
the words repent or repentance first then belief or believe occur in the same verse and each time repent comes first believe comes second. You cannot repent without believing, you cannot believe without repenting.
This is how to obtain grace:
You make a decision to turn away from sin and turn to God. That's repentance. By turning away from sin and turning to God, that's an act of faith. You're putting your trust in the Lord Jesus to save you. IF you're going to look to the Lord to save you, then you have to turn away from sin and look to Him. When Jesus says Repent and believe He is saying repentance and faith are 2 sides of the glorious salvific coin. One a turning away from sin and a turning to God. The other putting our faith and trust in God to save us. To save us from those sins which we are turning away.
We are saved by grace through faith, not prayer. Trusting Jesus who is the one who came down from heaven to save the sinner, because he cannot save himself, rely on what he did as enough for the salvation we need. The price he paid for you, and I is what is required for our salvation, his sacrifice was and is still enough to satisfy the wrath of God, he does not need our assistance, only your trust in him being enough.
Trusting Jesus is not enough to secure salvation.
@@Robert-r4s4c What is enough?
@@robertmix610 All the other things in the Bible we are told to do for salvation.
@@Robert-r4s4c What else is required for our salvation?
@@EugeneHolley-rc6ry What is in the Bible