Very cool find. I stayed in Lambertville a few years ago and never realized had I walked about another 900 ft or so down the canal trail that I would have seen this on the other side of the canal.
Speaking from the perspective of an urban explorer (not that I'm much of one, mind you)... I have to say I'm more thrilled about finding these old, abandoned vehicles than the historical aspect of it.
I like trains too. I like what they are, what they do, and how they developed. It is just that preserving this junk and denying the materials for use in new products is wrong. I also enjoy old railroad equipment, steam locomotives and their tenders for the fun of cutting them apart and sending them to the smelter. It is how I make my living!
It's an old Central Railroad of New Jersey commuter car that was probably used as an inspection car by Conrail when the line was still in service. An unusual find, as the Delavare & Raritan Canal Line had been operated by the Pennsylvania Railraod. It's southern section below Trenton to Camden is still active with CSX Freight overnight and the RiverLINE light rail line all other times. The old Trenton freight yard is now State Route 129 with the two outermost tracks kept for the RiverLINE.
The most despicable event to happen was in 1979 and 1980, when Conrail began removing the tracks between Milford and Lambertville and from this exact point to Trenton. Where that truck is parked in the beginning; its actually parked on the former Right-of-Way of the old Bel-Del. The hopper car was put there as a bumper after its breaking broke during service at Traprock Industries quarry above Lambertville. The coach was put there in the late '80s.
Its the Belvidere Division of the PRR, originally the Belvidere-Delaware Railroad from 1851. Freight service continued until the line's final days in 1978, when Conrail abandoned about half of the line between Milford and Trenton. The Bel-Del's Kent Yard in Phillipsburg, N.J. and Coalport Yard, which was adjacent to Route 1, were both destroyed near the end of the '70s. So sad to see commerce rise and fall and have history fade away.
The CNJ coach was not Conrail property, it was and still is owned by the Black River & Western Railroad, which owns the tracks from Lambertville northeast to Flemington. The hopper car however was obviously owned by Conrail. The only other cars in Lambertville that were Conrail property are the two boxcars on the disconnected sidetracks behind Lambertville station, which is now a restaurant.
There are several old coaches/caboose rotting away at the Boonton, NJ, station. There are two cabooses and a coach at the Newfoundland, NJ, station, but those are NOT abandoned.
This is a Central of New jersey CNJ coach, probably not abandoned. many small railroads take a long time to restore their equipment, it may also be just a spare parts car. extras like this are often just parked somewhere conveinient or out of the way.
I FULLY agree. I am just someone who has always liked/loved Trains, Railroads, etc. BUT Steel is 100% Recycleable Like Cockroach says: "When melted, the materials are poured, forged, hammered & shaped into new products"
Very interesting video. Thanks for posting. I may be repeating what someone else has said in a comment, but that passenger coach is an old commuter coach. Could it be off the old Central of New Jersey?
I know 90% of what this once heavily active rail-line is about. Between 1851 and 1855, it was built as the Belvidere-Delaware Railroad from Trenton through here north to a town in Warren County, N.J. called Belvidere. Between 1871 and 1968, the Pennsylvania Railroad operated it as their Belvidere Division, along with a shorter branch line to Flemington called the Flemington Branch. PRR merged with New York Central to become Penn Central in 1968.
@livardo If you find an abandond Steam Engine somewhere, please tell me where you found it, I've always wanted to go inside an abandond train, (EXPECIALLY A STEAM LOCOMOTIVE'S CAB)
thats odd, looks like it was in operation a few years ago, and maybe NS or CSX left it there when they bought conrail, but still cool find, i wonder is a 70ton , or 100ton hopper
hey i was looking on google maps and i found out that the new hope and ivryland railroad museum is just a few blocks west, i dont know if you know that but if you go there and report what you found, they might be able to restore the cars
The description of the video (top right corner, click "more info") has a tinyurl link that will take you to the exact location. It's in Lambertville, NJ.
That's a pretty big leap buddy!! I think when or if they ever put something like this in a museum, some spraypaint is the least of their worries. RECYCLE IT.
Thats the most truth ive heard in a single sentence! Wait, mobile homes have air space underneath as well as many windows too. But what if the coach cars are mostly metal?
Well thinking of scrapping a historical pice of railroad equipment is not the thing to be thinking. But if you want to scrap any railroad old caol cars, go to Leesport,PA. on the Reading & Northern Penny's branch. they have about 50 old cars just sitting there waitting for the scrappers torch. Good luck. Len.
I'm sorry for the nasty comments directed towards Cockroack2008 Iivardo, But nice video. The coach you stand in, is of Central Railroad of New Jersey, or CNJ for short, Heritage. It's primary use was to transport commuters from Suburbs to cities. Most cars are in shape like so today. Hope this Helps. :)
Know the story behind that old rail line, or how far it goes?
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@McLarenMercedes what do you know about what i found that night in that barn? I know what i saw the flashlight was pointing right at the body i did forgott my camera that night to
The next time you go to these trains, look on the side of the cars for a small panited black square, because in it it'll have numbers. One will say BLT with 2 numbers, which will be the build date of that car. Example: BLT 9/ 56 means built in September 1956. When you find that out, please put on here their build dates for historical interest.
my video response is an old old abandon train tunnel in Penticton BC Canada there are 3 of them... will get more video soon... also i know of about 4 abandon Houses around i will get vid of soon one of which has an old garage with a car from the 20's or early thirtys in it ... very creepy also one has several graves in the back yard
These trains sit right next to the Lambertville sewage facility. The smell is overpowering. I can almost smell it right through the screen as I watch this.
i truly wonder if the railroads know about all thier rolling stock. seems funny how equipment like this could be left so long and not moved or scrapped
If it is all metal, it won't burn. The truth is, in old railroad coaches, before ordinances and building codes were so ridgid, there is plenty of flamables in the coach to burn hot. It just needs a good ignition source. A flamable liquid will find where those materials are and assist!
@SpeedMjam Dunno.An old one XD.Nothing like you see today.Theres a tree growing thre it.PS theres other abandoned military stuff there from circa WII I think.
the hopper is intact, now only if Conrail could find this location unfourtounately the coach is unrestorable ASBESTOS, and other hazardous things like mold are growing inside it. You should contact conrail and tell them about your find IMMEDIETLY!
Penn Central, a major money pit disaster, filed for bankruptcy in 1970, the same year Black River & Western purchased the Flemington Branch. Penn Central operated the Belvidere Division from 1968 to 1976, when Conrail, a government created company, tookover Penn Central and other bankrupt northeast railroads. Lastly, between 1976 and 1978, the last trains traveled between Trenton and Belvidere. Conrail abandoned south of a town called Milford through Lambertville to Trenton that year.
typicaly Conrail Fashion, they abandoned that line, ripped up the tracks and left the hopper and the Coach, I'm sure eventually the Railroad society in Phillipsburg would be interested in buying more property from the old Bel-Del line out there to extend their Scenic Train Rides, currently they run out to Milford NJ where the tracks end but I'm sure they plan to add the remaining track bed and even restore at least the hopper car and add it to their collection of rolling stock
You might even make parts for new rail cars out of it... as far as that goes, there might even be some parts (wheels etc) reusable or salable as is, if not too heavily rusted.
@becky334 Clever girl. You take no crap from noone. I admire that quality in people, too many are too worried what others will think of them and hence transform themselves into personalities that are artificial and far from their true selves. You are a stable personality and seem to know yourself. All respect from my side. Keep being you, that's your biggest fortune in life. Btw, thanks for respecting my integrity.
Also true! The one thing about burning a railroad coach over a house, despite the fact that the house may have 30 windows, which can let in air, the railroad coach, has air space directly under it! This is perfect for the hottest fire which can be made! The coach and car in this video would burn quickly, hot and completely! Flame on!
@SpeedMjam Its on federal property i.e. no one alowed on site,but no one is there to protecte it.Btw that comment was 2 years ago.Lol.I still typed nooby.
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you bet. I screamed like never before. After getting lose from the body i took off running all the way home about 1 km away from the house
I am here to stay. I don't need to play with myself and I have nothing better to do with my time in between scrapping jobs. I am not wasting time, I am looking for more "opportunities" to scrap and cut up!
History belongs between the pages of a history book! HIstorical pieces of railroad equipment belong in new products. Getting them into the scrap yard is the first step, then the crew parts it up, junks it out, and torches cut it up into pieces to fit into the crucible of a blast furnace. When melted, the materials are poured, forged, hammered & shaped into new products. Junk them all out including the 50 cars from Leesport, PA & this wreck in Lambertville, NJ. Junk steam locomotives!
@becky334 That depends on what part of Sweden one was brought up in. Up north people are generally very calm and some would say friendly. In the big cities (especially Stockholm) people are far more stressed and show little considerations for each other, but they are also more straight to the point. I agree you are a nice girl. That would be my first impression. I mostly raised myself since my parents disagreed on most things so I had myself as the rolemodel growing up.
History should be found between the pages of a history book. Preserving this junk iron, pot metal and garbage is a very expensive (an unnecessary) endeavor. Cutting up metal junk into pieces small enough to fit through the opening of a blast furnace crucible. If the iron is high enough grade, then placing them into the melt of an induction furnace is a better place for this junk. The materials can be used to make new products. It is how I make my living! Junk them out, cut them up, melt them!
Check out the description of the video. Click "more info" to see a URL to take you to a Google Maps page which shows you exactly where it is. If I remember correctly, there was some type of chemicals factory nearby. The train wasn't exactly along the marked path that goes along the canal. Check the map.
@becky334 well I know this Becca in the States, although I actually call her Becks, her friends call her Beckster, Becky even Beckaroni (she's of Italian descent). I think Becka is most common in Sweden. My name is the same as the new prince of Sweden, the one princess Victoria married.
Thanks.. post more if you have them. I lived in Vancouver for 18 years and I still call it home.
Very cool find. I stayed in Lambertville a few years ago and never realized had I walked about another 900 ft or so down the canal trail that I would have seen this on the other side of the canal.
Places like this are fantastic to practice spray painting.
I see some nice practice throwup tags...beauty.
a shame really, that is a piece of history rusting away. it should be restored and saved for future generations to enjoy.
Speaking from the perspective of an urban explorer (not that I'm much of one, mind you)... I have to say I'm more thrilled about finding these old, abandoned vehicles than the historical aspect of it.
I like trains too. I like what they are, what they do, and how they developed.
It is just that preserving this junk and denying the materials for use in new products is wrong.
I also enjoy old railroad equipment, steam locomotives and their tenders for the fun of cutting them apart and sending them to the smelter.
It is how I make my living!
Holy crap! Remember seeing this video like 3 half yrs ago!!! Any way, enjoied! >.
It's an old Central Railroad of New Jersey commuter car that was probably used as an inspection car by Conrail when the line was still in service. An unusual find, as the Delavare & Raritan Canal Line had been operated by the Pennsylvania Railraod. It's southern section below Trenton to Camden is still active with CSX Freight overnight and the RiverLINE light rail line all other times. The old Trenton freight yard is now State Route 129 with the two outermost tracks kept for the RiverLINE.
The most despicable event to happen was in 1979 and 1980, when Conrail began removing the tracks between Milford and Lambertville and from this exact point to Trenton. Where that truck is parked in the beginning; its actually parked on the former Right-of-Way of the old Bel-Del. The hopper car was put there as a bumper after its breaking broke during service at Traprock Industries quarry above Lambertville. The coach was put there in the late '80s.
Its the Belvidere Division of the PRR, originally the Belvidere-Delaware Railroad from 1851. Freight service continued until the line's final days in 1978, when Conrail abandoned about half of the line between Milford and Trenton. The Bel-Del's Kent Yard in Phillipsburg, N.J. and Coalport Yard, which was adjacent to Route 1, were both destroyed near the end of the '70s. So sad to see commerce rise and fall and have history fade away.
Detroit has lots of abandoned houses that are highly flammable!
I found this on Googe Maps - pretty easy find actually from the help of the video... thanks!!
abandoned train is mutch more peaceful than what i found my accident in sweden for about 14 years ago in an abandoned barn
The CNJ coach was not Conrail property, it was and still is owned by the Black River & Western Railroad, which owns the tracks from Lambertville northeast to Flemington. The hopper car however was obviously owned by Conrail. The only other cars in Lambertville that were Conrail property are the two boxcars on the disconnected sidetracks behind Lambertville station, which is now a restaurant.
There are several old coaches/caboose rotting away at the Boonton, NJ, station. There are two cabooses and a coach at the Newfoundland, NJ, station, but those are NOT abandoned.
Owned by the Black River and Western, I think this is one of the cars they are restoring right now. It should be on their main page under projects.
This is a Central of New jersey CNJ coach, probably not abandoned. many small railroads take a long time to restore their equipment, it may also be just a spare parts car. extras like this are often just parked somewhere conveinient or out of the way.
sweet, a conrail hopper in lambertville, shows the line operated not more than 30 years ago.
I FULLY agree. I am just someone who has always liked/loved Trains, Railroads, etc. BUT
Steel is 100% Recycleable
Like Cockroach says:
"When melted, the materials are poured, forged, hammered & shaped into new products"
i like too this kind of images!
its also a nice subject for photoes!
Very interesting video. Thanks for posting. I may be repeating what someone else has said in a comment, but that passenger coach is an old commuter coach. Could it be off the old Central of New Jersey?
I know 90% of what this once heavily active rail-line is about. Between 1851 and 1855, it was built as the Belvidere-Delaware Railroad from Trenton through here north to a town in Warren County, N.J. called Belvidere. Between 1871 and 1968, the Pennsylvania Railroad operated it as their Belvidere Division, along with a shorter branch line to Flemington called the Flemington Branch. PRR merged with New York Central to become Penn Central in 1968.
I have been looking for a place near me, where there is an abandoned train. I can't find it, but you got lucky and found one
@livardo If you find an abandond Steam Engine somewhere, please tell me where you found it, I've always wanted to go inside an abandond train, (EXPECIALLY A STEAM LOCOMOTIVE'S CAB)
That sounds like fun!
thats odd, looks like it was in operation a few years ago, and maybe NS or CSX left it there when they bought conrail, but still cool find, i wonder is a 70ton , or 100ton hopper
There's also a railroad junkyard nearby, in Ringoes, NJ.
... and although I would be interested about hearing how they got there, I can always go to a museum.
hey i was looking on google maps and i found out that the new hope and ivryland railroad museum is just a few blocks west, i dont know if you know that but if you go there and report what you found, they might be able to restore the cars
You are probably right about that. Perhaps it would be better to say these poor guys have been "neglected" :)
Do you know if this is still there? Great find!!!
Ahh, history seen by exploring wrecks and abandonments of the past, LOVE IT!
We need to keep people like cockroach from destroying the past! =)
@tommyv2468 nice that you respond...
But would love to see a video of that...
Which type of tank was it?! :)
The images remind me when I first read the book series, "The Boxcar Children".
The description of the video (top right corner, click "more info") has a tinyurl link that will take you to the exact location. It's in Lambertville, NJ.
That's a pretty big leap buddy!! I think when or if they ever put something like this in a museum, some spraypaint is the least of their worries. RECYCLE IT.
should have shown the viewer what else was around the area. I could see well maintained buildings and trees. What was there?
Thats the most truth ive heard in a single sentence! Wait, mobile homes have air space underneath as well as many windows too. But what if the coach cars are mostly metal?
the hopper is Conrail 487958, Class H1A hopper
Well thinking of scrapping a historical pice of railroad equipment is not the thing to be thinking.
But if you want to scrap any railroad old caol cars, go to Leesport,PA. on the Reading & Northern Penny's branch. they have about 50 old cars just sitting there waitting for the scrappers torch.
Good luck.
Len.
good videos in my town they had an old depot and and old box car but then one day people came and scraped it man i was upset
I'm sorry for the nasty comments directed towards Cockroack2008 Iivardo, But nice video. The coach you stand in, is of Central Railroad of New Jersey, or CNJ for short, Heritage. It's primary use was to transport commuters from Suburbs to cities. Most cars are in shape like so today.
Hope this Helps. :)
the hopper car was, but the coach is owned by Black River & Western
Know the story behind that old rail line, or how far it goes?
@McLarenMercedes what do you know about what i found that night in that barn? I know what i saw the flashlight was pointing right at the body i did forgott my camera that night to
hi i live near cleveland ohio i was wnadering if you knew of any places where there are abandonedtrains
The next time you go to these trains, look on the side of the cars for a small panited black square, because in it it'll have numbers. One will say BLT with 2 numbers, which will be the build date of that car. Example: BLT 9/ 56 means built in September 1956. When you find that out, please put on here their build dates for historical interest.
my video response is an old old abandon train tunnel in Penticton BC Canada there are 3 of them... will get more video soon... also i know of about 4 abandon Houses around i will get vid of soon one of which has an old garage with a car from the 20's or early thirtys in it ... very creepy also one has several graves in the back yard
@sgprailfan Is it still there??
These trains sit right next to the Lambertville sewage facility. The smell is overpowering. I can almost smell it right through the screen as I watch this.
i truly wonder if the railroads know about all thier rolling stock. seems funny how equipment like this could be left so long and not moved or scrapped
If it is all metal, it won't burn. The truth is, in old railroad coaches, before ordinances and building codes were so ridgid, there is plenty of flamables in the coach to burn hot. It just needs a good ignition source. A flamable liquid will find where those materials are and assist!
@sgprailfan I was there Labor Day weekend. They were still there.
@SpeedMjam Dunno.An old one XD.Nothing like you see today.Theres a tree growing thre it.PS theres other abandoned military stuff there from circa WII I think.
the hopper is intact, now only if Conrail could find this location
unfourtounately the coach is unrestorable ASBESTOS, and other hazardous things like mold are growing inside it.
You should contact conrail and tell them about your find
IMMEDIETLY!
How far is this from the Lambertville H.S.?
Penn Central, a major money pit disaster, filed for bankruptcy in 1970, the same year Black River & Western purchased the Flemington Branch. Penn Central operated the Belvidere Division from 1968 to 1976, when Conrail, a government created company, tookover Penn Central and other bankrupt northeast railroads. Lastly, between 1976 and 1978, the last trains traveled between Trenton and Belvidere. Conrail abandoned south of a town called Milford through Lambertville to Trenton that year.
typicaly Conrail Fashion, they abandoned that line, ripped up the tracks and left the hopper and the Coach, I'm sure eventually the Railroad society in Phillipsburg would be interested in buying more property from the old Bel-Del line out there to extend their Scenic Train Rides, currently they run out to Milford NJ where the tracks end but I'm sure they plan to add the remaining track bed and even restore at least the hopper car and add it to their collection of rolling stock
You might even make parts for new rail cars out of it... as far as that goes, there might even be some parts (wheels etc) reusable or salable as is, if not too heavily rusted.
where is this located? Near what city and state?
A railroad coach has 18 windows, a house has 30 or more, so more windows means more airflow!
@sgprailfan: good call.. I'll make another trip in the near future.
relly wish i could find stuff like this, i'm a big fan of abandoned shit, it's got such a meloncholy vibe to it
@dragclan2000 in sweden somewhere i can't remember the exact location. But it was deep in the woods
Don't ya just love the Black River and Western for leaving those historic rail cars to rust and rot?
where was the loco of this "abandoned" train
amazing
i dont have video camera but its in tracy city tenessee if you want to see it.theres all kinds aramy junk lying around
vary strange both cars are or were owned by Conrail
Is that your old Pickup?
Wow, what a shame. a good Ol' COnrail Coal Hopper abandoned
I am considering that!
thanks.
@becky334
Clever girl.
You take no crap from noone. I admire that quality in people, too many are too worried what others will think of them and hence transform themselves into personalities that are artificial and far from their true selves.
You are a stable personality and seem to know yourself. All respect from my side. Keep being you, that's your biggest fortune in life.
Btw, thanks for respecting my integrity.
And that comparison is just plain SILLY!
Which railroad is this?
the passenger car would make a great little coffe shop....w/a LOT of work.
Cool Vid, i Subed !
quite so, but if you use butane instead of gas you will have more flame!!
Also true! The one thing about burning a railroad coach over a house, despite the fact that the house may have 30 windows, which can let in air, the railroad coach, has air space directly under it!
This is perfect for the hottest fire which can be made! The coach and car in this video would burn quickly, hot and completely!
Flame on!
There's some kind of factory nearby.
Why?
@SpeedMjam Its on federal property i.e. no one alowed on site,but no one is there to protecte it.Btw that comment was 2 years ago.Lol.I still typed nooby.
you bet. I screamed like never before. After getting lose from the body i took off running all the way home about 1 km away from the house
All the rail equipment is own by the Black River and Western Railroad. and they know its there.
Len.
I am here to stay. I don't need to play with myself and I have nothing better to do with my time in between scrapping jobs.
I am not wasting time, I am looking for more "opportunities" to scrap and cut up!
why are they there
History belongs between the pages of a history book!
HIstorical pieces of railroad equipment belong in new products. Getting them into the scrap yard is the first step, then the crew parts it up, junks it out, and torches cut it up into pieces to fit into the crucible of a blast furnace. When melted, the materials are poured, forged, hammered & shaped into new products.
Junk them all out including the 50 cars from Leesport, PA & this wreck in Lambertville, NJ.
Junk steam locomotives!
Ah.. I believe that. I thought it was all the crap from the Canada Geese hanging around.
@becky334
That depends on what part of Sweden one was brought up in. Up north people are generally very calm and some would say friendly. In the big cities (especially Stockholm) people are far more stressed and show little considerations for each other, but they are also more straight to the point.
I agree you are a nice girl. That would be my first impression. I mostly raised myself since my parents disagreed on most things so I had myself as the rolemodel growing up.
@SkateboarderRobley : Thanks for watching.
thats the cars when they made the frame of the set from steal and the set with wood and put cusions on them
wow! thats just creepy. wonder if those cars are haunted?
History should be found between the pages of a history book. Preserving this junk iron, pot metal and garbage is a very expensive (an unnecessary) endeavor.
Cutting up metal junk into pieces small enough to fit through the opening of a blast furnace crucible. If the iron is high enough grade, then placing them into the melt of an induction furnace is a better place for this junk.
The materials can be used to make new products.
It is how I make my living! Junk them out, cut them up, melt them!
Check out the description of the video. Click "more info" to see a URL to take you to a Google Maps page which shows you exactly where it is. If I remember correctly, there was some type of chemicals factory nearby. The train wasn't exactly along the marked path that goes along the canal. Check the map.
@becky334
well I know this Becca in the States, although I actually call her Becks, her friends call her Beckster, Becky even Beckaroni (she's of Italian descent).
I think Becka is most common in Sweden.
My name is the same as the new prince of Sweden, the one princess Victoria married.
Not a bad idea!
But old railroad coaches are more fun to burn! The air gets in under them, which feeds the fire. Railroad coaches burn extremely hot!
@becky334
Ok, Becky (or Becka, whichever you prefer). I'll take your word for it. :)
if u follow the tracks you'll notice that you have gone back in time