my dad knew jesse livingood jr. worked with him in a machine shop somewhere in sw PA. jesse jr still builds transfer cases and diffs in his spare time as far as i know. his dad is at least known locally as the real inventor of four wheel drive. as legend tells it, he sold the patent to the us govt. for $500 before WWII and that's how we got the jeep.
It's as good as I thought it would be! I want one! It's hard to beat 4WDor AWD, really narrow tires, and having some clearance! That's better than a lot of modern SUVs.
@@snowrocket "Jesse L. Livingood had a better odea. Seeing the need for four-wheel drive on the terrible roads of the day, he sought to develop a system at a cost more people could afford. In 1914, at the tender age of 20, he perfected a four-wheel-drive conversion kit for the Model T. What better rig than the T? It was light, readily available, solid, and simple."
@@snowrocket "The kit consisted of a front axle (converted from a standard Model T rear), a revised front spring, a transfer case, a front driveshaft, and some miscellaneous pieces. The first kits used a single-speed, chain-driven transfer case with an in-out lever for the front output. The later conversion incorporated a Warford auxiliary transmission, which was a two- or three-speed box, and had full-time four-wheel drive with a lockable center differential. The two-speed unit had an underdrive, to aid the T's rip-snorting 20 horsepower engine on rough terrain, and a 1:1 ratio for flat ground. In the three-speed Warford, an Overdrive was added and the later engines almost had the power to handle it."
That's impressive: "full-time four-wheel drive with a lockable center diff". That's AWD back in the 1920s! Since it essentially doubled the mechanical complexity of the car, and likely the price, that explains its lack of popularity. I'm sure on bad/low-traction roads it was far superior to anything else out there. Being an AWD enthusiast, THAT'S the Model T I want! Great granddaddy to the 1980 AMC Eagle and Audi Quattro coupe.
it is not a point of opinion it is reading real research that should have been taught in public school. virus biology epidemiology microbiome historic virus epidemic patterns. that is the result of falling 400 feet. no argument.......... In the end, your body will essentially believe that your innate immune system has failed, which means it must bring in the backup cavalry. In essence, your body is now overreacting to something that isn’t true. You’re not actually infected with a virus and your innate immune system has not fmmmmailed, but your body is forced to respond as if both are true. THE END
it is not a point of opinion it is reading real research that should have been taught in public school. virus biology epidemiology microbiome historic virus epidemic patterns. that is the result of falling 400 feet. no argument.......... In the end, your body will essentially believe that your innate immune system has failed, which means it must bring in the backup cavalry. In essence, your body is now overreacting to something that isn’t true. You’re not actually infected with a virus and your innate immune system has not fmmmmailed, but your body is forced to respond as if both are true. THE END
Back in the middle 70’s when I was in the Army I had a Jeep J 10 pickup with H 78 15 snow tires and loved to go driving on the troop trails during snow storms and just like these guys I n vet had a problem. As a matter of fact I carried a tow chain in the box for pulling fellow GI’s out of the ditch that never drove in snow before. Officers were a different story ; I charged them to get them out
The Hungarian Jozsef Galamb was the designer for the Ford T model. This man was the chief designer of Ford's company nearly 40 years. Jozsef Galamb goes to a school on Hungary, the upper industrial high school. In it for the school which one today for Obuda University, earlier Donat Banki Technical College.
1917 Ford Model T roadster look like a horseless carriage and black is the only color choice. This horseless carriage came with optional horizontal 2 piece split windshield, fenders and running boards are standard for several years.
Hey this is at antique auto ranch!!! I went there yesterday and looked through the fence and saw that car, i thought it was familiar, so i went home and looked at this video again and it sure is.
Sometimes letting a little air out of the tires helps with gaining traction.I believe the early Ford Models sold snow driving accessories,tractor type traction.
It would be interesting to see how the convertion was done , is the transfer system single speed ? With the front drive so far to one side does this affect how it powers the front wheels ?
@@PeterLawton Nothing famous. Mary Livingood's brother was Jesse Livingood who had a grandson Jesse F Livingood (1894-1961) who was the inventor. Jesse F attended machinist in Kansas City. The four wheel drive was first installed on a model T in February of 1914. He had a special model T that was stolen in Chicago never to be found again. He invented a steam car in the 1920s. He drove a 1918 model T with four wheel brake system until 1941.The list goes on. I have a copy of a picture with 1919 written on it. It's a four wheel drive Model T. I assume this is from a local history of some sort. It is not an obituary.
Espectacular este video mas q grande el FORD T ES UN AUTOMOVIL INDISCUTIBLE NO HAY PARAMETROS QUE SE PUEDAN OPINAR SOBRE ESTE SENCILLO Y RENDIDOR MOTOR
FWD company really lead the way how make four wheel drive vehicles and they really did a nice job making them passable for customers and the us military branches where looking for a new vehicle and they heard about the FWD company and oshkosh company they made the order
FWD in this context refers to the American "Four Wheel Drive" car and truck company. My understanding is they were the first American company to make 4WDs that were commercially successful. They made cars at first, later switching to trucks exclusively.
FWD technology is still out there with marmon herrington transfer case and front and rear differentials and they can always come in handy from other manufacturers as well rockwell and dana spicer axle and there transfer cases as well and there products are very good
I bet at least one guy in the early days of cars accidentally discovered doing doughnuts in his model t and started charging people 2 cents to go for a ride and go do doughnuts on the frozen lake
That ancient beast handles that snow better than many modern vehicles
So 100+ years later for the Ford Model T and they are still AMAZING machines!
That is so cool that you have a 1917 roadster working. Thank you for keeping these cars alive!!!
Object lesson on narrow tyres in snow...having said that, the bloody thing drives as though it has diff locks! Impressed.
my dad knew jesse livingood jr. worked with him in a machine shop somewhere in sw PA. jesse jr still builds transfer cases and diffs in his spare time as far as i know. his dad is at least known locally as the real inventor of four wheel drive. as legend tells it, he sold the patent to the us govt. for $500 before WWII and that's how we got the jeep.
Love your story about the company be proud ❤️🏆🇺🇸
I'm 74 and never heard of these. FANtastic!!! I've actually ridden in T's and A's. When I was 4-5 Dad had a flatbed pickup and a dump truck
The skinnier the tire in the snow the better. Those very first cars were really cool.
It's as good as I thought it would be! I want one! It's hard to beat 4WDor AWD, really narrow tires, and having some clearance! That's better than a lot of modern SUVs.
It is rare 4wd ford T!
@@Seregium VERT rare! I have never before or since this video seen or heard of a 4WD Model T.
@@snowrocket "Jesse L. Livingood had a better odea. Seeing the need for four-wheel drive on the terrible roads of the day, he sought to develop a system at a cost more people could afford. In 1914, at the tender age of 20, he perfected a four-wheel-drive conversion kit for the Model T. What better rig than the T? It was light, readily available, solid, and simple."
@@snowrocket "The kit consisted of a front axle (converted from a standard Model T rear), a revised front spring, a transfer case, a front driveshaft, and some miscellaneous pieces. The first kits used a single-speed, chain-driven transfer case with an in-out lever for the front output. The later conversion incorporated a Warford auxiliary transmission, which was a two- or three-speed box, and had full-time four-wheel drive with a lockable center differential. The two-speed unit had an underdrive, to aid the T's rip-snorting 20 horsepower engine on rough terrain, and a 1:1 ratio for flat ground. In the three-speed Warford, an Overdrive was added and the later engines almost had the power to handle it."
That's impressive: "full-time four-wheel drive with a lockable center diff". That's AWD back in the 1920s! Since it essentially doubled the mechanical complexity of the car, and likely the price, that explains its lack of popularity. I'm sure on bad/low-traction roads it was far superior to anything else out there. Being an AWD enthusiast, THAT'S the Model T I want! Great granddaddy to the 1980 AMC Eagle and Audi Quattro coupe.
I can’t believe how good these do in the snow
What do you mean "weak"; a T only has around 20 horsepower. A 2WD Ford Model T only tops out at 30-40 MPH.
@@snowrocket ? I said good
Tall narrow tires will go through snow like crazy and the hight of the underbody helps as well remember they didn't have snow tires back then...
The T roadsters with the front drive axles are rare. In this case the cars light weight works to it's advantage. Very neat.
Техника хороша! Современные 4WD не все пойдут по такому снегу. Но съемка и впрямь как в 1917 году... (((
The transfer case is in or out. The front wheels power nicely. It drives just like a T! It has room for a Warford, but I haven't installed one.
I am amazed! This is cool! I expected this thing not to move with these skinny tires, but it drives better than most crossovers XD
it is not a point of opinion it is reading real research that should have been taught in public school.
virus biology epidemiology microbiome historic virus epidemic patterns.
that is the result of falling 400 feet. no argument..........
In the end, your body will essentially believe that your innate immune system has failed,
which means it must bring in the backup cavalry.
In essence, your body is now overreacting to something that isn’t true.
You’re not actually infected with a virus and your innate immune system has not fmmmmailed,
but your body
is forced to respond as if both are true.
THE END
it is not a point of opinion it is reading real research that should have been taught in public school.
virus biology epidemiology microbiome historic virus epidemic patterns.
that is the result of falling 400 feet. no argument..........
In the end, your body will essentially believe that your innate immune system has failed,
which means it must bring in the backup cavalry.
In essence, your body is now overreacting to something that isn’t true.
You’re not actually infected with a virus and your innate immune system has not fmmmmailed,
but your body
is forced to respond as if both are true.
THE END
Skinny tires in snow are great
no idea why this shows in my recommended but im amused with how well it handles in snow
Hint, hint - tire chains work AMAZING on skinny tires with spoke wheels !
Just wrapping w rope works really well, too!
Back in the middle 70’s when I was in the Army I had a Jeep J 10 pickup with H 78 15 snow tires and loved to go driving on the troop trails during snow storms and just like these guys I n vet had a problem. As a matter of fact I carried a tow chain in the box for pulling fellow GI’s out of the ditch that never drove in snow before. Officers were a different story ; I charged them to get them out
The Hungarian Jozsef Galamb was the designer for the Ford T model. This man was the chief designer of Ford's company nearly 40 years. Jozsef Galamb goes to a school on Hungary, the upper industrial high school. In it for the school which one today for Obuda University, earlier Donat Banki Technical College.
This is so cool! I had no idea anything like this ever existed.
The Ford Model T (1908--1927) was know to go 'anywhere'! This car changed the world.
shows how tall narrow tires help in the snow.
1917 Ford Model T roadster look like a horseless carriage and black is the only color choice. This horseless carriage came with optional horizontal 2 piece split windshield, fenders and running boards are standard for several years.
Hey this is at antique auto ranch!!! I went there yesterday and looked through the fence and saw that car, i thought it was familiar, so i went home and looked at this video again and it sure is.
Well now I know what a 4 wheel drive Model T is for! That's awesome Tom.
Ed Stone
They went through anything and everything.
Epic! Henry would be proud! Thanks for sharing...
THATS JUST AWESOME, must be cold with no heat
That's amazing! Thanks for the video!
That is a really cool video thanks for sharing.
Sometimes letting a little air out of the tires helps with gaining traction.I believe the early Ford Models sold snow driving accessories,tractor type traction.
It would be interesting to see how the convertion was done , is the transfer system single speed ? With the front drive so far to one side does this affect how it powers the front wheels ?
I had heard of this Model T in our family genealogy. My great great grandmother was Mary Livengood McKanna.
Is her name famous? Is there a connection?
@@PeterLawton Nothing famous. Mary Livingood's brother was Jesse Livingood who had a grandson Jesse F Livingood (1894-1961) who was the inventor. Jesse F attended machinist in Kansas City. The four wheel drive was first installed on a model T in February of 1914. He had a special model T that was stolen in Chicago never to be found again. He invented a steam car in the 1920s. He drove a 1918 model T with four wheel brake system until 1941.The list goes on. I have a copy of a picture with 1919 written on it. It's a four wheel drive Model T.
I assume this is from a local history of some sort. It is not an obituary.
citroen 2cv does good in snow. Light and skinny tyres
Great post!
now that is class. thanks guys
These old cars even two wheel drives. Where unstoppable my Dad talked about his Uncle Bill driving his up coal slag heaps. May God bless all!!
Espectacular este video mas q grande el FORD T ES UN AUTOMOVIL INDISCUTIBLE NO HAY PARAMETROS QUE SE PUEDAN OPINAR SOBRE ESTE SENCILLO Y RENDIDOR MOTOR
I always wanted one of them old vehicles. Easy to maintain. Parts not so available I'm sure. Nice video
Part are really pretty easy to find. Unless it is a real early T the parts are reasonable
What a blast!!
and to think these did it right out of the factory w/out 4WD with just tire chains,
Great video! Congratulations!
Fit knobbly tyres, and an enclosed cab with a heater, and I'll take three :D
ford built tough.. never lied for 100 years xD
I want that kind of snow
FWD company really lead the way how make four wheel drive vehicles and they really did a nice job making them passable for customers and the us military branches where looking for a new vehicle and they heard about the FWD company and oshkosh company they made the order
FWD in this context refers to the American "Four Wheel Drive" car and truck company. My understanding is they were the first American company to make 4WDs that were commercially successful. They made cars at first, later switching to trucks exclusively.
FWD technology is still out there with marmon herrington transfer case and front and rear differentials and they can always come in handy from other manufacturers as well rockwell and dana spicer axle and there transfer cases as well and there products are very good
A model T doing a wheel spin?,now I've seen it all.
I bet at least one guy in the early days of cars accidentally discovered doing doughnuts in his model t and started charging people 2 cents to go for a ride and go do doughnuts on the frozen lake
awesome, got a mean growl to her
Skinny tires go a long way in the winter.
Seems a bit cold to me? He needs a heater!
does it wear out the clutch bands faster?
my ford 1929 is outside, and in norway we have alot of snow.
i wil restore it in this summer.
7 years late but did you restore it?
Hell i'am leaving this message in 2022 by the looks of it the new 4x4s are be hind you stuck and scratching their heads 😂🏆🇺🇸great show love it .
Hey is this at antique auto ranch?
I want one now.
Bad assed!
Oh yeah! I heater would do sooo much. :-p
When cars were functional, and men weren't drinking lattes!
That’s good for it.
Yes
this is a vibe
forgot to put the top up
is this 4x4 one?
...imagine that had to be done with a modern 2 tons weight SUV! Really a "COOL" thing, guys...
I can't see because of the snow.
5:59 I'll remember this. Could you order with knobbies on 21". no kididing.
You need the skiis on the front and the two rear tire axels out back.
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its just snow, eh dont worry.
🤘🤘
I don't think so.
What could have been.
how about putting a rear pickup building on the model t?
tag your it.
That's better then the cars today! you want to sell that
Subaru my ass!
Умели делать вездиходы👍👍👍
I'm glad this got recommended to me.