Hey Originauts! I'll be hanging out here in the comments for the rest of the day responding to feedback! So drop those comments, questions and thoughts down below. I'm all ears :) Peace, Love and Learning, Danielle
Hi can you possibly consider doing a "origin of prisons" please :) . From the first ever documented prison in ancient times to prison in 2020. its ok if you dont tho lol
@@givmespace Hi! So we have a video on the Origins of private prisons here on the channel. You should check it out! "Origin of Prisons" would be an interesting follow up though. Thanks for watching! ~Danielle
@@pbsorigins Thats interesting i will check that modern prison video out tonight. btw this police video is great, im interested in this topic too. and thank you for making the videos! ~originaut
Now, this is worth being placed in all curriculum requirements in society. Origin of Everything provides answers to age-old concerns that people still trivialize today. Also, Danielle Bainbridge needs a raise! Somebody cut the check.
Your show is THE best ever. You are such an amazing teacher and I have learned so much from you. You are a fantastic person and I'm so grateful for you and all the work you put in for us. Much love to you💚💚💚💚
I second this. I regularly use these videos for college work LOL. Every assertion I can easily find is true, source that, and bang. Plus, it’s way easier to understand what she’s saying than sift through random research.
350k subscribers and less than 4k views so far. What a shame. This channel is making very important videos that as many people need to see as possible.
Hi! I'm from Glasgow, where Patrick Colquhoun was from. At points in its history, Glasgow has been known as the most violent city in Europe (and Scotland has the worst drug problem of any European country to this day!) However, I am so proud to say that we have left behind Colquhoun 's legacy and the model he created, and have divested from policing and reformed the system. It hasn't fully been abolished, but in my lifetime, Ive seen so many public funds returned to public services that don't even exist in the US. Public services that are beyond American's wildest dreams! The crime rate in Glasgow has dropped drastically. Police officers do not have guns, or any kind of choke hold training etc--instead now they're trained in harm reduction, conflict resolution, and other forms of public safety--in the US they're still trained to protect property, not people. We've been able to cultivate communities--but that comes at a price that the US will never pay--which is valuing and supporting the working class and poor. There's a great Anthony Bourdain episode where he goes to Glasgow and speaks to a former policeman, who explains that crime is a direct product of poverty. So why not eliminate the poverty, so you have less crime? The problem in the USA is that crime does pay, because of the prison industrial complex. We've still got a lonnngggg way to go in Glasgow, but you can read more about the process here: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/21/policing-scotland-radically-reformed-all-uk-forces-learn
Many years ago I learned the origin of the term Tenderloin as referring to an area of a city. Police were not that well paid, but in some districts they could well supplement their income by overlooking organized vice. This would allow them to dine on the tender loin cuts of meat. When I worked in San Francisco, I walked through the Tenderloin on my way to and from work every weekday. At the time I had no idea how it got that name.
I remember learning this in college almost ten years ago. From then on I’ve always questioned the actual need for the style of policing we have in America. I’ve been for reform and have been met with a lot of hostility. But the fact is: the system of policing in America has been flawed since its inception. And it’s only gotten worse as departments continue to militarize and gain even more immunity through police unions and their bill of rights.
Some Australian policing system in the last 20 years reformed after the Asian system and it work wonder. Despite the west surpass the east in many aspect during the 19th century, policing is one system that the East still surpass the west. Interestingly base on conversation with western cops on online forum, it seem the same system doesn't work very well in the west, due to system difference. In Asia, the military system is model after the military. One major difference is Asian cops need to spend 4 years in police university to be trained as cops. In Asia there are 4 types of university, civil university (similar to the type of university in the west) trade university (it is similar to western trade school, but you can study to a much higher standard, in the west you can go as high as having a diploma, in Asia you can go as high as getting your Bachelor, Master or even PhD. It explain why Japan got those fancy electronic toilets, I mean, what do you expect, they got people with PhD in pluming over there lol. I know for a fact Taiwan's Capital City had one sanitation minister that got a PhD in plumbing, about 10 years ago, it resolved Taipei's sanitation problem that was a nightmare for over 10 years, within only 1 year. It is also why, in the west people that for example studied as a chef, they don't get a degree, despite some famous chef of their standard might be worthy of a PhD. In Asia, they can get a PhD or honorary PhD. It is also why Asia drama standard is much higher, Some of those actors really went to trade university and got a Bachelor in acting.) There are also military university, in the west school such as West Point that train military officer, their standard is of university graduate, but once again they are not recognized for it by having a degree, in Asia it is call a military university, so graduate actually have a degree, this is especially considering, some military officer unit is harder compare to our average college, for example fighter pilot. Then there is the police university, this is similar to the police academy in the west, but once again, the standard is much higher. In the west it is a 3 months~1 year training program, in Asia they got a 4 years national training program, but after you graduate you must give the police force 5~10 years of your life. The US generally doesn't have the resource to do the same regarding policing, compare to the East, with the exception of Federal government. This is due to the west got independent police force each state, county and city. UK is a western nation that got a single national police force. In the US local authority usually doesn't have the same resource to spend so much time and money to train a police force, this is especially considering, some cadets might be good on paper but not cut out for the job on the field. They usually use an apprenticeship program similar to star war. Where they give you basic training in school and then on the job training with an experienced Sergeant, as a rookie officer. The problem is unit such as SWAT and detective require much higher standard. SWAT need to be tougher and detective need to be smarter. If you watch the news and see cases of innocent people in prison 9/10 time it was due to the detective is an idiot. Many Private Investigators can't stand police detectives. Since the early 2000 Australia's New South Wales Police Force employ the same system as Asia. Because the west doesn't have the same complex university system we got in the East, the police academy partner with civil university and officially become the faculty of policing of those university. So, the instructors are also cops, they learn the same thing you expect in a police academy, only with 4 years they can train you to a higher standard.
@@peteryang8991 while I agree with most of what you said, we have to recognize that the US can't do the same as China. Not even counting the resource issues let's go with the very foundation of the countries. One of the fears is a military state so not exalty sure we would ever go the China route as that is part of why the US was formed. Now I would like it to adopt a similar system but I know it will never while retaining current ideas on reform even from the extremist as what we would think would work is exactly the opposite of what they want.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 Well this can be resolved by having different category of police to specialize different task. For example (I am from Taiwan by the way) in Taiwan and Japan we got the police and para-police. Most local US cops are only of Taiwan and Japanese para police standard. The para-police only do patrol, traffic duty, search and rescue. They only got 13 weeks training (military combat-ops experience prefer but not necessary.) The idea is similar to volunteer fire fighter, to assist the police in law enforcement ask that require lower skill level. The Police on the other hand attend Taiwan Police Academy or Taiwan Police University. The Academy is 2 years, afterwards you get your associate degree. The Taiwan Police University is 4 years for your Bachelor degree. You can also obtain your Master Degree and PhD. The adopted system is very similar to the military. In all the military in the world they are split into enlisted (private and Lance Corporal), None Commission Rank Officer (Corporal and Sergeant) and Commission Rank Officer (Lieutenant and higher) To be a Commission Rank officer you need go to the military university (e.g. West Point) after graduate you start as a Lieutenant. As for None Commission Rank, it is either by training or experience. For example, in Special Forces everybody must rank None Commission Rank or higher. So, you need going to Special Forces school and get 1~2 years of training (3 years for Navy Seals) Afterwards you get your Diploma and start as a Corporal. For ordinary infantry it is 13 weeks training and you start as private. In some unit everybody rank Lieutenant or higher (e.g. Fighter pilots and most desk job position) So, after you graduate from military university (or if you are going for a desk job you graduate from an ordinary civilian university in med school, law school, engineering or whatever and you get basic military officer training, but you don't do specialized training, that is for combat officers) and you start as a Lieutenant in those units. Otherwise if you for example, got assigned to the infantry, you start as a Lieuteant starting as a platoon. But in those unit you be surrounded by people more experienced compare to you, So, they will assigned a senior none commission rank officer (what we generally call first sergeant) to assist you as technical advisor. In Taiwan Police they did the exact same thing. They got enlisted rank, None Commission Rank Officer Rank and Commission Rank. The National Police and State Police are Commission Rank only unit. Therefore, everybody that went to Police university after graduate get assign to National or State Police and they start at the rank of Lieutenant. County Police is None Commission Rank or higher. They go to the National Police Academy for two years. After graduate start at the rank of Corporal. If they are to be promoted to the rank of Lieutenant or higher, they need to get the credit point in the National Police University. But, for County Police, only the Chief of the local Police station need ranking Lieutenant or higher, so there won't be a low in demand for Lieutenants. The para-police that assist the County Police start at the rank of private. The County Police do everything just like the US Police. The State and National Police focus more on investigation and capture fugitive similar to US FBI and US Marshal. The para police only do basic patrol, traffic, search and rescue and riot control. They don't do anything else. The issue is that most US cops are only para-police standard. But, they are expected to do the job of real cops. And with the exception of the FBI and State Police, most US cops are not up to the standard expected of a real cop. In that Jackie Chan movie Rush Hour, Jackie Chan's character Chief Inspector Lee is extremely professional and well trained police officer. On the other hand Chris Tucker's character is...I can't believe he is a cop. Most people that served in most US local police force say that it is really like that (there are a few except for example NYPD and LAPD are really good, so it is funny Chris Tucker's character in that movie is LAPD) And that is a problem because scared cop = trigger happy cop. There is an ex marine/ex cop that is now an activist for police reform and the first thing he talked about is regarding standard of combat training for local police. Because, he used to be a Marine Sergeant, he can better be in control of the situation. Those local police officers without that training can easily loose control and that will turn those local police officers extremely violent. Hong Kong as we know used to be a British colony, it used to have the most corrupt police force in Asia, even worse compare to some 2nd and 3rd world countries. They eventually reform with a more Asian system and it worked very well.
I'd say you may need more education. Police do not derive immunity from unions or the bill of rights. They derive it from legislators and are not completely immune from civil or criminal liability. Police militawize due to the fact that many criminals are heavily armed and the constitution forbides military from participating in civilian law enforcement. The Hollywood bank robbery comes to mind wher 2 guys in body armor managed to shoot up the area and police bullets couldn't penetrate their armor. So reform yes isn't bad, but it needs to be sensible reform putting law abiding public first.
One of the best ways to find out about something is to go back and trace the roots of it's history, you do a PHENOMENAL JOB OF THIS. GREAT WORK 👍🏿👍🏿 PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. IT'S FULFILLING AND VERY EDUCATIONAL AND VERY WORTHWHILE.
As a long retired cop from the UK. I beseech young white Americans to steer clear from joining law enforcement in the USA. Unless you have a desire to have a target placed on your back. Study hard, go to university. Become a lawyer, engineer, doctor, teacher. But, avoid becoming a cop. Unless you wish to be hated or a walking target. Trust me. I was that target!!
@@OkamiRose one of the Patreon perks! I think this is the first time in my years of You Tube viewing I was the first to comment on a video and a joy to comment on such an interesting one.
Thank you so much for this program. I’m from Minneapolis and white. I often associated racism was more prominent in the south. After George Floyd incident I began educating myself about racism in my state, plus listening to my neighbor’s experiences. Every man of color has a story. I wish I’d known before what I know now.
Change is needed, and I've been struggling to find nuance and balance, to avoid "defund the police" becoming "throwing the baby out with the bathwater". My initial thought was a shift to asking to "demilitarize" and "humanize" the police. My favorite example of this is San Diego's use of police on bicycles near the beaches and popular public parks, where a simple change of vehicle has had many beneficial knock-on effects, including the addition of shorts as an accepted part of the police uniform, greatly "softening" the uniform.
I really love the videos and the topics you cover. This information should be taught in every school in America. By the way the Golden Girls shirt is dope. 🤗 Loved that show when I was a kid at grandma's house.
I wonder how many people who say, "but who would show up after you had a car crash," know that the police don't show up for YOUR benefit. The show up to write a report for your car insurance company. Not you.
Here in Portugal we have Police since 1500s..Like.. No one ever talks about disbanding or defunding them.. oh and btw our police is militarezed as hell and we love it
you are missing the point where you should be looking is who where why is there authority to police free people in the first place the authority they have is only relevant because most people let it be do the research like fo real they don't really have it they assume it and we accept it but it's not there
@@Whynot-qd4bo I get where you're coming from, but policing isn't all shooting people for running a stop sign and tear gassing protesters. The police force does some actual useful stuff, too. If someone smashes your window and grabs your stereo, you need a police report to file with your insurance company if you want to be reimbursed. When a bad wreck happens, the police are the ones who are in charge of the scene and coordinate the activities. Among other stuff, they shut down traffic so that the firefighters and medics can safely do their jobs to save people, and find information for next of kin and notify them and such. When your kid wanders off into the woods, or your grandma doesn't come home from the grocery store, you'll be very glad to have someone to call. The wording "defund the police" scares the crap out of old white folks. I point out to them that the vast majority of the jobs at the cops do could easily be done by more appropriate authorities. Anyone literate can fill out a report form, and direct traffic. You don't need someone with a gun, a tazer and pepper spray to help find Oma. I like to tell folks that we are trying to "lighten the work load for the cops". Everyone, even cops and politicians, like that idea. The end result of that will be very useful for us poors on the streets as far as getting needful stuff done, plus it will leave one branch that basically does nothing but harass and brutalized people. That will make even the oldest, whitest people pay attention, and it will be hard, even for them, to justify the existence and cost of such a force.
ANY form of policing authority are just revenue officers for the RICH that really KNOW whats going on Same goes for the army not to mention we don't know what goes on in the secret services ALL that is evidence of an existing highercical power structure BUT the whole reason for the comment for me is the systematic racism towards black people and people that will just listen and follow THERE is that other side of the coin black people never explore they only see what's in front of them FIRST deal with how you let the your own see you not just the YOUNG the FAMILY the COMMUNITY but the WORLD example maybe not the best but who cares it's the message that counts THESE days if you ask let's say some Asian farmer guy who owns an "android"phone and watches tv very rarely or ever about the first thing that comes to his mind about a black person the answer in most cases is RAP or rhymes or word play what ever the name So the people that aren't traveling once every other month most they get is that rap music BLACK people are mostly known for their music but if you see what's said in rap the black kids aka the youth the future black people ain't getting no where anytime soon the rap is alright but the words and the imagery that the young is being fed DAILY it's ridiculous and this is not long after slavery it's the perfect escape but it's so much more under all that they don't realize THERE should by now be an understanding within the black community the level of power and influence the media and what the young are shown the power in that 90% of our problems WITH 100% confidence would disappear if we get that right ONE MAN DIDN'T BUILD THE PYRAMID OF GIZA So white folks should be afraid imagine if 60% of black folks directed their attention on this matter the police ain't doin a damn thing by then it's the army by that time because so far the police has only been brutal toward black people and as you saw it started from policing black slaves anyways so IT'S not the gun that pulls the trigger it's the holder of it and the REAL RICH have their little fingers in the government and are afraid of the unity and black excellence and so they will do any and everything for their agenda to be realized But black folks listen protesting ain't doin shit there is a strong need for unity for your desires to be fulfilled that's it
Love the way you approached this topic. Policing has been used as a way to control the lower class and is not about public safety. Also police unions are resistant to change because its a threat to their power and they scare the population by saying that crime will go up if they can’t act violent to society. It’s an absurd argument but effective Because if you dare question them they label you a threat because they have the power to do so. When laws are framed in a way to harass a segment of population, lower class, BIPOC, Etc, it makes it easy for them to label “those” people as the problem (think about drug laws and quotas). And it further perpetuates this disconnect between them and the public. Where I live the DA said they would not prosecuted low level drug crimes, because it does nothing to solve the root problem, guess who was against it the police.
Remove police from lower class neighborhoods and see what happens. It's people that live in those neighborhoods that benefit most from what police do. The rich live in nice neighborhoods and can afford private security.
@@BorisForOffice if you think the police are out solving murders and testing rape kits, you're misguided. That dont make money, locking up drug dealers do. You wanna know why more affluent communities have less crime, they have more resources. It's never about public safety, it's about social control. Who is easier to control, a lesser class of society, that's the status quo, the police uphold
@@atxscrew8470 Police *are* out solving murders and testing rape kits. I completely agree with your point on drugs though. Locking up drug users and dealers isn't doing anything to help society and is only increasing gang violence. Civil asset forfeiture should be completely repealed at both state and federal levels, so police don't profit from arrests. The current laws are the issue, not the police. The focus should be to stop locking up people for victimless crimes (by changing the laws), so the police have more time to go after real criminals. What many cities are doing is the opposite - they're increasing regulations which hurt small businesses and poor people the most while letting violent criminals out of jail or not prosecuting them in the first place.
@@BorisForOffice not in my hometown they aren’t testing rape kits, it’s been backlogged for years, maybe it’s because some of their own are apart of it. they get so upset that they can’t shoot protesters then complain that they are getting Covid 19 but they are getting too close to citizens and not wearing masks. no one asked for them to brutalize protesters. Go ahead and deflect some blame on the laws (of which there is plenty to go around like current drug laws, mandatory minimums) and not their dirty police unions who will cover up all of their wrongdoings. Also qualified immunity which won’t even let anyone question their tactics(unless their specific circumstances were the same as any previous case, which their are none, it’s a catch 22 for corruption). If what I said is not getting across understand at least this, the police have arrested more people for Marijuana possession than all of what they call “violent crime” combined. You should be really read up on the “punishment bureaucracy” published in the Yale Law Journal by Alec Karakatsanis and how police would rather only enforce some laws on certain people.
@@atxscrew8470 Like I said, I agree with repealing current drug laws. But the blame for those laws lies almost entirely with politicians and to some degree with the people in charge at police departments making patrol officers enforce these laws. I agree with getting rid of (or at least limiting) qualified immunity. The police aren't solely responsible for testing rape kits and many departments lack funding for it. Many states have passed laws funding the tests, tracking kits, etc and these have worked very well in reducing the backlog. Police don't want to shoot protesters and go to extreme lengths to avoid doing so putting their own lives in danger. I've seen plenty of protest videos - when protesters don't attack police, break into buildings, or destroy property, the police are happy to let them exercise their rights. When protesters get violent, the police sometimes try to stop them. There are countless protests where police didn't stop violent behavior and innocent businesses got burned down and people were assaulted or killed.
I've read that most people in black communities want police fully funded. The key word in her opening statement is "activists" want. Crime at least seems like a priority to polled black citizens.
I would have liked if they showed a broader view of police world wide. Police didn't just come out of America and Britain. There are police all over the world who can trace their origins to before America even existed.
This is something I didn't like. She gave the history of police. Okay then gave the history of slave hunters. Then continue talking and insinuated they were the same. Policing has existed forever we have had laws since ancient Civilization and enforcement. This isn't a new concept and to act like the UK invented it and like it was the only influence felt like an attempt to create a narrative.
The problem with the 'abolish the police' movement is that it actually doesnt do anything. It is a catchy sounding statement that people will buy into without really thinking about it. The only way to truly abolish the police is to have a society where school shootings get no response. Obviously this is insane which is why even 'abolish' groups admit there would still have to be a group of people who deal with violent situations, which is basically saying saying that they want to replace the police with a smaller group of 'critical situation officers' or what ever and call it mission accomplished. But what have you actually changed? If you are going to have a society where by a school shooter is challenged by a person with a gun who has the authority to do what is necessary to stop the shooting of children, you are going to have to address potential abuse problems. A society without that is a society literally no one wants to live in
Such a great episode, Danielle. This made me think of Caste by Isabel Wilkerson all over again and how much law enforcement is just about caste enforcement. Especially when you talked about the connection between law enforcement and labor...whew the history is so complex.
1:19 in the early american colonies, policing was neither centralized nor standardized... 1:44 1630 and 1700, boston ny, and philadelphia... 2:30 first american slave patrols were formed in the first decade of the 18th century in the carolinas... 3:10 *modern policing in the 19th century* 4:44 1850 police corruption become rampant... 5:20 *meanwhile in the south patrols continued to enforce slave codes* 5:52 *policing and the reconstruction era* Post-civil war era slave codes gave way to black codes ... 6:51 *the new science of policing 1900 August volmer* ... 7:41 1919 passage of the eighteenth amendment prohibited alcohol 1929 president herbert hoover appointed the wickersham commission.. 8:16 reforms from the wickersham commission 8:41 orlando winfield book 9:10 samuel walker book... 9:51 long standing conceens of black citizens in 1960... 10:35 blue flus 11:12 contemporary policing and reforms
I support our police, and it's perfectly OK to say they need reform. THEY work for US...Police Unions act like WE work for THEM. They better snap out of it, or else the People should replace all the bad apples out there..STARTING AT THE TOP, MOVING ON DOWN !
This is fantastic and really educational. It's wild what has painted the police force into place over the years. Very necessary, and sobering. That being said...WHERE DID YOU GET THAT SHIRT?!?!
great video! if anyone here wants to know what an in-depth version of this would be i highly recommend the podcast mini series behind the police by robert evans on iheart radio, it´s basically a real deep dive of the points that were discussed here and very interesting and relevant. i´m currently reading a book by ales s. vitale that came out in 2017 on the history of different strategies of police and contemporary different methods, there are a lot of studies cited and the book is very comprehensive as a result, i got it when it was free to download on verso books and i don´t know if it still is but it´s worth reading anyway
Another great video. Perhaps the title should have been "The evolution of racism in American law enforcement." It didn't really touch much on modern policing practices or police around the world. Great video though.
So this video isn’t actually “evolution of law enforcement” just making sure we’re on the same page. There has always been laws, police figures or authoritative figures to push those laws or ideologies . Even before biblical times that’s been the case. So in my opinion this video is clickbait and far from great.
i think it needs to be said that "policing" is a complicated subject. This video is interesting in that it shows the history of corruption and demonstrates the effect of giving an individual "power' over another individual. It seems each time people have power over others without any checks or balances there are bound to be those who take advantage. The challenge seems to be in finding the right balance of accountability. News reports, however, unfairly depict police as a problem based on the actions of individual cops without giving equal time to those officers who save lives such as the many videos on UA-cam of cops saving babies (search that if you want to feel good today). None of those mothers want police abolished!!
Abolishing the police is a stance that is a luxury of our times. If we went back to when before we had police, EVERYONE would be calling for the police to come back. Society is too big for us to handle every infraction ourselves. Strongmen would rule the country. The size of society necessitates a group of people specially trained in the application of violence to deter and punish crime. This is the polcie.
Bodycam mandates for all is the absolutely essential first step in police reform. But these reforms must be accompanied by laws that mandate they keep the body cam on at all time. Plus, cops need to start wearing shoulder cams. Cameras placed on the chest get blocked when a weapon is drawn preventing the most critical points of time from being caught on camera.
All I know is don't go to Vidor, Texas. I don't know why. I don't know what happened there. I'm white and I know not to go to Vidor. Ever time we drove east into Louisiana, we saw the Vidor exit signs and my dad told me not to go there. Don't know why. I've asked black folks I've been close enough to such that I can ask them about this, and they don't know why either My late father's family had some issues back in the early 20th century. My dad's maternal grandfather was on the school board in his county. When he was at a meeting a week before a big vote the Klan came to my paternal grandmother's house. They didn't do much but ride around in circles and make noise. The Klan won't run off cattle or burn barns that belong to white folks, but they sure will make you think they might. And I also think the Klan was into the "rape your way into marriage" thing and used this as a threat against the few white people who resisted them who had daughters of relevant age like my grandmother's older sister. I have no idea what my great-grandfather did. I think he caved. He had land, but no cash. His land was flood-prone, but he didn't have enough land to make flood rice farming profitable. Small plot cattle and truck farming got him a decent income. We should remember that black folks of similar status in the once thriving freedmen's community didn't have things this easy. They got cattle run off, they had barns burned. This turned fragile wealth into poverty. And this absolutely has to do with the police. You think my great grandfather could actually press charges? And do you think that any black folks could even think of filing criminal complaints?
Her research is missing some things. Otherwise change the title. Law enforcement can be traced farther back to the American colonies to ancient Egypt amd probably beyond.
There are only two levers of power, violence and money. If you want to destroy the police you need to use one of them. The police have us out gunned. Defunding the police is the means by which we will abolish them.
Police should protect and serve, but these days they don’t. I wish I could trust police but I can’t anymore and that’s very sad, we can’t even go to them for help, so I guess we have to take matters into our own hands.
Strange she doesn't mention the presence of deputy U.S. marshals in American society. Beginning under the Jefferson administration, deputy marshals were tasked with tracking down and capturing individuals suspected of commiting major crimes and turning them over to federal authorities. In Indian Territory deputy marshals were the only law enforcement officers legally able to apprehend anyone regardless of tribal status as tribal police were only allowed to police Native Americans but not whites or Blacks. Many of the deputy marshals, among the most successful, were members of Native American tribes or Black. Arguably, the greatest deputy marshal ever was my great great grandfather, Bass Reeves, a Black man. Rather than enforcing Jim Crow or Black Codes, Bass tracked down many whites accused or convicted of the racist murder of Blacks and/or and Native Americans, as well as Native and Black criminals. Those Black and Native deputy marshals helped even the injustices heaped on non-whites in a deeply racist post-Civil War United States.
Unfortunately policing is still not centralized nor standardized. I'm a big proponent of both because it would codify and provide a high level of continuity in how we operate.
I feel this video could have done a better job on the topic. It should have delved more into the transformation from private and unprofessional policing to organized public policing. While it did a good job of examining flaws in the history of policing, it failed to note more positive evolutions. It should have also covered better systems that were in place prior to night patrols. It also should have looked more at what people might expect if police were abolished. While it is fine for the video to have its biases, it should try to provide a more thorough detail.
I am curious. Why nothing was mentioned about how on September 26, 1789, George Washington signed the commissions of thirteen Marshals. He spent most of Thursday, October 1, dispatching "many of the Commissions of the Judiciary Judges, Marshals, and Attorneys." This work also occupied most of the President's time the next day. Ever conscious of the importance of each office, Washington chose men on whom he could depend to support the federal government without endangering the rights of the states. Or how from 1875 to 1907, Reeves was a commissioned deputy U.S. marshal. He was one of the first, but not the first, African Americans to hold a commission west of the Mississippi River.
Now here's a likkle truth, open up your eye While you're checkin' out the boom-bap, check the exercise Take the word overseer, like a sample Repeat it very quickly in a crew, for example Overseer, overseer, overseer, overseer Officer, officer, officer, officer Yeah, officer from overseer You need a little clarity? Check the similarity! The overseer rode around the plantation The officer is off, patrollin' all the nation The overseer could stop you, "What you're doing?" The officer will pull you over just when he's pursuing The overseer had the right to get ill And if you fought back, the overseer had the right to kill The officer has the right to arrest And if you fight back they put a hole in your chest (Woop!) They both ride horses After 400 years, I've got no choices -KRS One (sound of the police)
I think you can reform the police. Most countries don’t have a problem with theirs. And before police you were either rich enough to have a private one, or you were sol
Your videos are important and I appreciate the education and view point. You lost me on this one by using the controversial Ferguson shooting the way you did. I want a broader view point, but please be careful that you don’t take the easy road. If you’re misleading with information I do know about, how can I trust you to educate me on information I don’t know about.
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Hi can you possibly consider doing a "origin of prisons" please :) . From the first ever documented prison in ancient times to prison in 2020. its ok if you dont tho lol
I wouldn't mind seeing the origins of the Pinkerton's
@@givmespace Hi! So we have a video on the Origins of private prisons here on the channel. You should check it out! "Origin of Prisons" would be an interesting follow up though. Thanks for watching!
~Danielle
@@justteezy91 Now that's something I don't know much about, so it'd definitely be interesting to do a little research. Thanks for watching!
~Danielle
@@pbsorigins Thats interesting i will check that modern prison video out tonight. btw this police video is great, im interested in this topic too. and thank you for making the videos!
~originaut
Everytime i watch your show it's like i got a class that was deliberately left out when i was in school.
no shit
Now, this is worth being placed in all curriculum requirements in society. Origin of Everything provides answers to age-old concerns that people still trivialize today. Also, Danielle Bainbridge needs a raise! Somebody cut the check.
This comments section is so wholesome and gracious it makes my heart all warm. Thanks Danielle, and also all the Origin of Everything viewers!
Your show is THE best ever. You are such an amazing teacher and I have learned so much from you. You are a fantastic person and I'm so grateful for you and all the work you put in for us. Much love to you💚💚💚💚
Thanks so much for your kind words and for watching!
~Danielle
Absolutely! I learn so much and also share these videos with my kids because they are done so well and super informative. Thank you!!!
I second this. I regularly use these videos for college work LOL. Every assertion I can easily find is true, source that, and bang. Plus, it’s way easier to understand what she’s saying than sift through random research.
This old lady appreciate learning credible history from you. History in school had much to do with memorization, not understanding. Thank youu.
350k subscribers and less than 4k views so far. What a shame. This channel is making very important videos that as many people need to see as possible.
One year later and only 51k. It's shameful how low the views are on videos like this. I had to search this out to find it.
Probably not.
So many more people need to watch this but unfortunately education isn't valued in America. Sadly propaganda lies are far more popular
Thank you for spreading knowledge, it’s eye opening. You’re doing a great work ! Thank you ! I need to level up on my history and consume more of it !
We love making new Origin content for you guys! Glad you can learn more from our channel :)
~Danielle
Hi! I'm from Glasgow, where Patrick Colquhoun was from. At points in its history, Glasgow has been known as the most violent city in Europe (and Scotland has the worst drug problem of any European country to this day!) However, I am so proud to say that we have left behind Colquhoun 's legacy and the model he created, and have divested from policing and reformed the system. It hasn't fully been abolished, but in my lifetime, Ive seen so many public funds returned to public services that don't even exist in the US. Public services that are beyond American's wildest dreams! The crime rate in Glasgow has dropped drastically. Police officers do not have guns, or any kind of choke hold training etc--instead now they're trained in harm reduction, conflict resolution, and other forms of public safety--in the US they're still trained to protect property, not people. We've been able to cultivate communities--but that comes at a price that the US will never pay--which is valuing and supporting the working class and poor. There's a great Anthony Bourdain episode where he goes to Glasgow and speaks to a former policeman, who explains that crime is a direct product of poverty. So why not eliminate the poverty, so you have less crime? The problem in the USA is that crime does pay, because of the prison industrial complex. We've still got a lonnngggg way to go in Glasgow, but you can read more about the process here: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/21/policing-scotland-radically-reformed-all-uk-forces-learn
Danielle thank you so much for what you do. Keep on educating us. Your wisdom is playing a role in changing the future. Thank you!!!!
@Luís Andrade tip for you: don’t embarrass yourself online...everything you put out there follows.
Decades of "reforms", but absolutely nothing has changed with law enforcement.
Ok how do you think we should fix it then? Defunding the police definitely won't help.
Oh woes is me, right Karen?
@@timothyodeyale6565And what makes you think keeping brutal white racist cops on the streets helps,white boy?
Many years ago I learned the origin of the term Tenderloin as referring to an area of a city. Police were not that well paid, but in some districts they could well supplement their income by overlooking organized vice. This would allow them to dine on the tender loin cuts of meat. When I worked in San Francisco, I walked through the Tenderloin on my way to and from work every weekday. At the time I had no idea how it got that name.
I remember learning this in college almost ten years ago. From then on I’ve always questioned the actual need for the style of policing we have in America. I’ve been for reform and have been met with a lot of hostility.
But the fact is: the system of policing in America has been flawed since its inception. And it’s only gotten worse as departments continue to militarize and gain even more immunity through police unions and their bill of rights.
Some Australian policing system in the last 20 years reformed after the Asian system and it work wonder. Despite the west surpass the east in many aspect during the 19th century, policing is one system that the East still surpass the west. Interestingly base on conversation with western cops on online forum, it seem the same system doesn't work very well in the west, due to system difference. In Asia, the military system is model after the military. One major difference is Asian cops need to spend 4 years in police university to be trained as cops. In Asia there are 4 types of university, civil university (similar to the type of university in the west) trade university (it is similar to western trade school, but you can study to a much higher standard, in the west you can go as high as having a diploma, in Asia you can go as high as getting your Bachelor, Master or even PhD. It explain why Japan got those fancy electronic toilets, I mean, what do you expect, they got people with PhD in pluming over there lol. I know for a fact Taiwan's Capital City had one sanitation minister that got a PhD in plumbing, about 10 years ago, it resolved Taipei's sanitation problem that was a nightmare for over 10 years, within only 1 year. It is also why, in the west people that for example studied as a chef, they don't get a degree, despite some famous chef of their standard might be worthy of a PhD. In Asia, they can get a PhD or honorary PhD. It is also why Asia drama standard is much higher, Some of those actors really went to trade university and got a Bachelor in acting.) There are also military university, in the west school such as West Point that train military officer, their standard is of university graduate, but once again they are not recognized for it by having a degree, in Asia it is call a military university, so graduate actually have a degree, this is especially considering, some military officer unit is harder compare to our average college, for example fighter pilot. Then there is the police university, this is similar to the police academy in the west, but once again, the standard is much higher. In the west it is a 3 months~1 year training program, in Asia they got a 4 years national training program, but after you graduate you must give the police force 5~10 years of your life.
The US generally doesn't have the resource to do the same regarding policing, compare to the East, with the exception of Federal government. This is due to the west got independent police force each state, county and city. UK is a western nation that got a single national police force. In the US local authority usually doesn't have the same resource to spend so much time and money to train a police force, this is especially considering, some cadets might be good on paper but not cut out for the job on the field. They usually use an apprenticeship program similar to star war. Where they give you basic training in school and then on the job training with an experienced Sergeant, as a rookie officer. The problem is unit such as SWAT and detective require much higher standard. SWAT need to be tougher and detective need to be smarter. If you watch the news and see cases of innocent people in prison 9/10 time it was due to the detective is an idiot. Many Private Investigators can't stand police detectives. Since the early 2000 Australia's New South Wales Police Force employ the same system as Asia. Because the west doesn't have the same complex university system we got in the East, the police academy partner with civil university and officially become the faculty of policing of those university. So, the instructors are also cops, they learn the same thing you expect in a police academy, only with 4 years they can train you to a higher standard.
@@peteryang8991 while I agree with most of what you said, we have to recognize that the US can't do the same as China. Not even counting the resource issues let's go with the very foundation of the countries. One of the fears is a military state so not exalty sure we would ever go the China route as that is part of why the US was formed. Now I would like it to adopt a similar system but I know it will never while retaining current ideas on reform even from the extremist as what we would think would work is exactly the opposite of what they want.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 Well this can be resolved by having different category of police to specialize different task.
For example (I am from Taiwan by the way) in Taiwan and Japan we got the police and para-police. Most local US cops are only of Taiwan and Japanese para police standard. The para-police only do patrol, traffic duty, search and rescue. They only got 13 weeks training (military combat-ops experience prefer but not necessary.) The idea is similar to volunteer fire fighter, to assist the police in law enforcement ask that require lower skill level.
The Police on the other hand attend Taiwan Police Academy or Taiwan Police University. The Academy is 2 years, afterwards you get your associate degree. The Taiwan Police University is 4 years for your Bachelor degree. You can also obtain your Master Degree and PhD.
The adopted system is very similar to the military. In all the military in the world they are split into enlisted (private and Lance Corporal), None Commission Rank Officer (Corporal and Sergeant) and Commission Rank Officer (Lieutenant and higher) To be a Commission Rank officer you need go to the military university (e.g. West Point) after graduate you start as a Lieutenant. As for None Commission Rank, it is either by training or experience. For example, in Special Forces everybody must rank None Commission Rank or higher. So, you need going to Special Forces school and get 1~2 years of training (3 years for Navy Seals) Afterwards you get your Diploma and start as a Corporal. For ordinary infantry it is 13 weeks training and you start as private. In some unit everybody rank Lieutenant or higher (e.g. Fighter pilots and most desk job position) So, after you graduate from military university (or if you are going for a desk job you graduate from an ordinary civilian university in med school, law school, engineering or whatever and you get basic military officer training, but you don't do specialized training, that is for combat officers) and you start as a Lieutenant in those units. Otherwise if you for example, got assigned to the infantry, you start as a Lieuteant starting as a platoon. But in those unit you be surrounded by people more experienced compare to you, So, they will assigned a senior none commission rank officer (what we generally call first sergeant) to assist you as technical advisor.
In Taiwan Police they did the exact same thing. They got enlisted rank, None Commission Rank Officer Rank and Commission Rank.
The National Police and State Police are Commission Rank only unit. Therefore, everybody that went to Police university after graduate get assign to National or State Police and they start at the rank of Lieutenant. County Police is None Commission Rank or higher. They go to the National Police Academy for two years. After graduate start at the rank of Corporal. If they are to be promoted to the rank of Lieutenant or higher, they need to get the credit point in the National Police University. But, for County Police, only the Chief of the local Police station need ranking Lieutenant or higher, so there won't be a low in demand for Lieutenants.
The para-police that assist the County Police start at the rank of private.
The County Police do everything just like the US Police. The State and National Police focus more on investigation and capture fugitive similar to US FBI and US Marshal. The para police only do basic patrol, traffic, search and rescue and riot control. They don't do anything else.
The issue is that most US cops are only para-police standard. But, they are expected to do the job of real cops. And with the exception of the FBI and State Police, most US cops are not up to the standard expected of a real cop.
In that Jackie Chan movie Rush Hour, Jackie Chan's character Chief Inspector Lee is extremely professional and well trained police officer. On the other hand Chris Tucker's character is...I can't believe he is a cop. Most people that served in most US local police force say that it is really like that (there are a few except for example NYPD and LAPD are really good, so it is funny Chris Tucker's character in that movie is LAPD) And that is a problem because scared cop = trigger happy cop. There is an ex marine/ex cop that is now an activist for police reform and the first thing he talked about is regarding standard of combat training for local police. Because, he used to be a Marine Sergeant, he can better be in control of the situation. Those local police officers without that training can easily loose control and that will turn those local police officers extremely violent.
Hong Kong as we know used to be a British colony, it used to have the most corrupt police force in Asia, even worse compare to some 2nd and 3rd world countries. They eventually reform with a more Asian system and it worked very well.
You speak TRUTHFULLY 👍🏿👍🏿 It's definitely the facts
I'd say you may need more education. Police do not derive immunity from unions or the bill of rights. They derive it from legislators and are not completely immune from civil or criminal liability. Police militawize due to the fact that many criminals are heavily armed and the constitution forbides military from participating in civilian law enforcement. The Hollywood bank robbery comes to mind wher 2 guys in body armor managed to shoot up the area and police bullets couldn't penetrate their armor. So reform yes isn't bad, but it needs to be sensible reform putting law abiding public first.
Wow, this is so well researched and presented. Thank you.
One of the best ways to find out about something is to go back and trace the roots of it's history, you do a PHENOMENAL JOB OF THIS. GREAT WORK 👍🏿👍🏿 PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. IT'S FULFILLING AND VERY EDUCATIONAL AND VERY WORTHWHILE.
This was so intellectually honest and thorough. Thank you
This is Fantastic content. Danielle you're a gem that must be protected at all cost. Thanks for the work you and team are doing to educate the masses.
Don't worry, Real working tax paying Americans are subsidizing pBS to keep it on the air.
As a long retired cop from the UK. I beseech young white Americans to steer clear from joining law enforcement in the USA. Unless you have a desire to have a target placed on your back. Study hard, go to university. Become a lawyer, engineer, doctor, teacher. But, avoid becoming a cop. Unless you wish to be hated or a walking target. Trust me. I was that target!!
This is a really nicely crafted and interesting piece. Thanks as always.
How did you watch this 1 day ago when it was only released 10 min ago?
@@OkamiRose We have early release of episodes through Patreon! Hope that clears up the mystery :)
~Danielle
@@OkamiRose one of the Patreon perks! I think this is the first time in my years of You Tube viewing I was the first to comment on a video and a joy to comment on such an interesting one.
@@OkamiRose MAGIC :-D
We must share this great content... Knowledge is power
Thank you so much for this program. I’m from Minneapolis and white. I often associated racism was more prominent in the south. After George Floyd incident I began educating myself about racism in my state, plus listening to my neighbor’s experiences. Every man of color has a story. I wish I’d known before what I know now.
Thank you, black people love you.
Always good relevant segments!
Change is needed, and I've been struggling to find nuance and balance, to avoid "defund the police" becoming "throwing the baby out with the bathwater". My initial thought was a shift to asking to "demilitarize" and "humanize" the police. My favorite example of this is San Diego's use of police on bicycles near the beaches and popular public parks, where a simple change of vehicle has had many beneficial knock-on effects, including the addition of shorts as an accepted part of the police uniform, greatly "softening" the uniform.
Yes, hire more gay people they love modeling shorts while riding bikes at the beach!
I really love the videos and the topics you cover. This information should be taught in every school in America.
By the way the Golden Girls shirt is dope. 🤗 Loved that show when I was a kid at grandma's house.
You are teaching The most important thing that all US citizens need! History! So many have forgot or Just don’t know!
Police went from fighting unions to having the most powerful union in the nation.
The police was made to serve the interest of the few, not the many.
Thank you for your videos
I wonder how many people who say, "but who would show up after you had a car crash," know that the police don't show up for YOUR benefit. The show up to write a report for your car insurance company. Not you.
The title should be *Evolution of the US Law Enforcement
Here in Portugal we have Police since 1500s..Like.. No one ever talks about disbanding or defunding them..
oh and btw our police is militarezed as hell and we love it
Thank you so much for shedding light on history that is hidden away!
Police chief needs to be an elected position like sheriff is.
Put the power in the hands of the people being policed.
you are missing the point
where you should be looking is who where why is there authority to police free people in the first place the authority they have is only relevant because most people let it be do the research like fo real they don't really have it they assume it and we accept it but it's not there
@@Whynot-qd4bo I get where you're coming from, but policing isn't all shooting people for running a stop sign and tear gassing protesters. The police force does some actual useful stuff, too.
If someone smashes your window and grabs your stereo, you need a police report to file with your insurance company if you want to be reimbursed. When a bad wreck happens, the police are the ones who are in charge of the scene and coordinate the activities. Among other stuff, they shut down traffic so that the firefighters and medics can safely do their jobs to save people, and find information for next of kin and notify them and such. When your kid wanders off into the woods, or your grandma doesn't come home from the grocery store, you'll be very glad to have someone to call.
The wording "defund the police" scares the crap out of old white folks. I point out to them that the vast majority of the jobs at the cops do could easily be done by more appropriate authorities. Anyone literate can fill out a report form, and direct traffic. You don't need someone with a gun, a tazer and pepper spray to help find Oma. I like to tell folks that we are trying to "lighten the work load for the cops". Everyone, even cops and politicians, like that idea.
The end result of that will be very useful for us poors on the streets as far as getting needful stuff done, plus it will leave one branch that basically does nothing but harass and brutalized people. That will make even the oldest, whitest people pay attention, and it will be hard, even for them, to justify the existence and cost of such a force.
ANY form of policing authority are just revenue officers for the RICH that really KNOW whats going on Same goes for the army not to mention we don't know what goes on in the secret services
ALL that is evidence of an existing highercical power structure
BUT the whole reason for the comment for me is the systematic racism towards black people and people that will just listen and follow
THERE is that other side of the coin black people never explore they only see what's in front of them
FIRST deal with how you let the your own see you not just the YOUNG the FAMILY the COMMUNITY but the WORLD
example maybe not the best but who cares it's the message that counts
THESE days if you ask let's say some Asian farmer guy who owns an "android"phone and watches tv very rarely or ever about the first thing that comes to his mind about a black person the answer in most cases is RAP or rhymes or word play what ever the name
So the people that aren't traveling once every other month most they get is that rap music
BLACK people are mostly known for their music but if you see what's said in rap the black kids aka the youth the future black people ain't getting no where anytime soon the rap is alright but
the words and the imagery that the young is being fed DAILY it's ridiculous and this is not long after slavery it's the perfect escape but it's so much more under all that they don't realize
THERE should by now be an understanding within the black community the level of power and influence the media and what the young are shown the power in that
90% of our problems WITH 100% confidence would disappear if we get that right ONE MAN DIDN'T BUILD THE PYRAMID OF GIZA
So white folks should be afraid imagine if 60% of black folks directed their attention on this matter
the police ain't doin a damn thing by then
it's the army by that time
because so far the police has only been brutal toward black people and as you saw it started from policing black slaves anyways so
IT'S not the gun that pulls the trigger it's the holder of it and the REAL RICH have their little fingers in the government and are afraid of the unity and black excellence and so they will do any and everything for their agenda to be realized
But black folks listen protesting ain't doin shit there is a strong need for unity for your desires to be fulfilled that's it
You're wearing a freaking Golden Girls t-shirt! You have my respect and admiration.
Love the way you approached this topic. Policing has been used as a way to control the lower class and is not about public safety. Also police unions are resistant to change because its a threat to their power and they scare the population by saying that crime will go up if they can’t act violent to society. It’s an absurd argument but effective Because if you dare question them they label you a threat because they have the power to do so. When laws are framed in a way to harass a segment of population, lower class, BIPOC, Etc, it makes it easy for them to label “those” people as the problem (think about drug laws and quotas). And it further perpetuates this disconnect between them and the public. Where I live the DA said they would not prosecuted low level drug crimes, because it does nothing to solve the root problem, guess who was against it the police.
Remove police from lower class neighborhoods and see what happens.
It's people that live in those neighborhoods that benefit most from what police do.
The rich live in nice neighborhoods and can afford private security.
@@BorisForOffice if you think the police are out solving murders and testing rape kits, you're misguided. That dont make money, locking up drug dealers do. You wanna know why more affluent communities have less crime, they have more resources. It's never about public safety, it's about social control. Who is easier to control, a lesser class of society, that's the status quo, the police uphold
@@atxscrew8470 Police *are* out solving murders and testing rape kits.
I completely agree with your point on drugs though. Locking up drug users and dealers isn't doing anything to help society and is only increasing gang violence. Civil asset forfeiture should be completely repealed at both state and federal levels, so police don't profit from arrests.
The current laws are the issue, not the police.
The focus should be to stop locking up people for victimless crimes (by changing the laws), so the police have more time to go after real criminals.
What many cities are doing is the opposite - they're increasing regulations which hurt small businesses and poor people the most while letting violent criminals out of jail or not prosecuting them in the first place.
@@BorisForOffice not in my hometown they aren’t testing rape kits, it’s been backlogged for years, maybe it’s because some of their own are apart of it. they get so upset that they can’t shoot protesters then complain that they are getting Covid 19 but they are getting too close to citizens and not wearing masks. no one asked for them to brutalize protesters. Go ahead and deflect some blame on the laws (of which there is plenty to go around like current drug laws, mandatory minimums) and not their dirty police unions who will cover up all of their wrongdoings. Also qualified immunity which won’t even let anyone question their tactics(unless their specific circumstances were the same as any previous case, which their are none, it’s a catch 22 for corruption). If what I said is not getting across understand at least this, the police have arrested more people for Marijuana possession than all of what they call “violent crime” combined. You should be really read up on the “punishment bureaucracy” published in the Yale Law Journal by Alec Karakatsanis and how police would rather only enforce some laws on certain people.
@@atxscrew8470 Like I said, I agree with repealing current drug laws. But the blame for those laws lies almost entirely with politicians and to some degree with the people in charge at police departments making patrol officers enforce these laws.
I agree with getting rid of (or at least limiting) qualified immunity.
The police aren't solely responsible for testing rape kits and many departments lack funding for it. Many states have passed laws funding the tests, tracking kits, etc and these have worked very well in reducing the backlog.
Police don't want to shoot protesters and go to extreme lengths to avoid doing so putting their own lives in danger. I've seen plenty of protest videos - when protesters don't attack police, break into buildings, or destroy property, the police are happy to let them exercise their rights. When protesters get violent, the police sometimes try to stop them. There are countless protests where police didn't stop violent behavior and innocent businesses got burned down and people were assaulted or killed.
I've read that most people in black communities want police fully funded. The key word in her opening statement is "activists" want. Crime at least seems like a priority to polled black citizens.
Crime, yes. Harassment, no. They should all have at least Bachelor’s degrees, a state licensing system and a paired mental health professional.
PREACH WHY NO 4 YR DEGREE LOL SERIOUSLY?
The most astute comment I've read on this slobber fest of comments.
Thank you for all of your enlightened episodes. Also that shirt you are wearing is AMAZING! Please keep up the good work.
I would have liked if they showed a broader view of police world wide. Police didn't just come out of America and Britain. There are police all over the world who can trace their origins to before America even existed.
This is something I didn't like. She gave the history of police. Okay then gave the history of slave hunters. Then continue talking and insinuated they were the same. Policing has existed forever we have had laws since ancient Civilization and enforcement. This isn't a new concept and to act like the UK invented it and like it was the only influence felt like an attempt to create a narrative.
@@andre8272 The description of every phase only dealt with negatives, biasing the viewer into perceiving the police as corrupt in essence.
The whole judicial system in the United States seems to be pretty crap.
Yup
Bingo, let's roll one.
Try going to some European countries
And many police officers will tell you that same thing!
The problem with the 'abolish the police' movement is that it actually doesnt do anything. It is a catchy sounding statement that people will buy into without really thinking about it. The only way to truly abolish the police is to have a society where school shootings get no response. Obviously this is insane which is why even 'abolish' groups admit there would still have to be a group of people who deal with violent situations, which is basically saying saying that they want to replace the police with a smaller group of 'critical situation officers' or what ever and call it mission accomplished. But what have you actually changed? If you are going to have a society where by a school shooter is challenged by a person with a gun who has the authority to do what is necessary to stop the shooting of children, you are going to have to address potential abuse problems. A society without that is a society literally no one wants to live in
Im for defunding but to hear abolitionists research about how it went in decades past is a tick in their favor
What do you mean
Excellent work as always & a very timely urgent subject matter.🤔😑
When it comes to occupations they are divided into two groups: 1. Occupations that are loved, liked or hated, 2. Occupations that are loved or hated
You're an awesome teacher, thank you
This is America...it's the American way to this very day..
Thank you so much for the work you do!
5th video I watched of yours! Love them, plus turned my daughter and wife on!
Such a great episode, Danielle. This made me think of Caste by Isabel Wilkerson all over again and how much law enforcement is just about caste enforcement. Especially when you talked about the connection between law enforcement and labor...whew the history is so complex.
Excellent and interesting video has always. You know how to teach us a lot of things in such a short video format. Your t-shirt is awesome by the way.
1:19 in the early american colonies, policing was neither centralized nor standardized...
1:44 1630 and 1700, boston ny, and philadelphia...
2:30 first american slave patrols were formed in the first decade of the 18th century in the carolinas...
3:10 *modern policing in the 19th century*
4:44 1850 police corruption become rampant...
5:20 *meanwhile in the south patrols continued to enforce slave codes*
5:52 *policing and the reconstruction era*
Post-civil war era slave codes gave way to black codes ...
6:51 *the new science of policing 1900
August volmer* ...
7:41 1919 passage of the eighteenth amendment prohibited alcohol
1929 president herbert hoover appointed the wickersham commission..
8:16 reforms from the wickersham commission
8:41 orlando winfield book
9:10 samuel walker book...
9:51 long standing conceens of black citizens in 1960...
10:35 blue flus
11:12 contemporary policing and reforms
I support our police, and it's perfectly OK to say they need reform. THEY work for US...Police Unions act like WE work for THEM. They better snap out of it, or else the People should replace all the bad apples out there..STARTING AT THE TOP, MOVING ON DOWN !
This is fantastic and really educational. It's wild what has painted the police force into place over the years. Very necessary, and sobering.
That being said...WHERE DID YOU GET THAT SHIRT?!?!
I would love to know a black police officer’s views on this
I can tell you. They blame all their shortcomings on racism. Saved you 2 hours of whining. You're welcome.
great video! if anyone here wants to know what an in-depth version of this would be i highly recommend the podcast mini series behind the police by robert evans on iheart radio, it´s basically a real deep dive of the points that were discussed here and very interesting and relevant. i´m currently reading a book by ales s. vitale that came out in 2017 on the history of different strategies of police and contemporary different methods, there are a lot of studies cited and the book is very comprehensive as a result, i got it when it was free to download on verso books and i don´t know if it still is but it´s worth reading anyway
Smurk,... nightwatchman, more like knight riders.....
Just like the show from the late 80's! Media minipulation.
Another great video. Perhaps the title should have been "The evolution of racism in American law enforcement." It didn't really touch much on modern policing practices or police around the world. Great video though.
Exactly
So this video isn’t actually “evolution of law enforcement” just making sure we’re on the same page. There has always been laws, police figures or authoritative figures to push those laws or ideologies . Even before biblical times that’s been the case. So in my opinion this video is clickbait and far from great.
The Sophia Petrillo tee is everything.
Good historical argument to set your path to setting a goal toward legal responsibility...nicely done....
I keep on hearing “Unintended Consequences”
Police today are less violent, less racist, and better trained than EVER before. People just simply need someone to blame.
New subscriber absolutely love you already
When you have no police, you leave room for people like Peisistratos and his bodyguards, as well as Augustus and the Praetorian.
That IS the police.
i think it needs to be said that "policing" is a complicated subject. This video is interesting in that it shows the history of corruption and demonstrates the effect of giving an individual "power' over another individual. It seems each time people have power over others without any checks or balances there are bound to be those who take advantage. The challenge seems to be in finding the right balance of accountability. News reports, however, unfairly depict police as a problem based on the actions of individual cops without giving equal time to those officers who save lives such as the many videos on UA-cam of cops saving babies (search that if you want to feel good today). None of those mothers want police abolished!!
this is so well done
So is my wife's steak.
Abolishing the police is a stance that is a luxury of our times. If we went back to when before we had police, EVERYONE would be calling for the police to come back. Society is too big for us to handle every infraction ourselves. Strongmen would rule the country. The size of society necessitates a group of people specially trained in the application of violence to deter and punish crime. This is the polcie.
That’s stupid.
Bodycam mandates for all is the absolutely essential first step in police reform. But these reforms must be accompanied by laws that mandate they keep the body cam on at all time. Plus, cops need to start wearing shoulder cams. Cameras placed on the chest get blocked when a weapon is drawn preventing the most critical points of time from being caught on camera.
Thank you so much for this info , it was enlighting.
Thank you for the video and research.
OMG, I love your shirt, my favorite Golden Girl!
All I know is don't go to Vidor, Texas. I don't know why. I don't know what happened there. I'm white and I know not to go to Vidor. Ever time we drove east into Louisiana, we saw the Vidor exit signs and my dad told me not to go there. Don't know why. I've asked black folks I've been close enough to such that I can ask them about this, and they don't know why either
My late father's family had some issues back in the early 20th century. My dad's maternal grandfather was on the school board in his county. When he was at a meeting a week before a big vote the Klan came to my paternal grandmother's house. They didn't do much but ride around in circles and make noise. The Klan won't run off cattle or burn barns that belong to white folks, but they sure will make you think they might. And I also think the Klan was into the "rape your way into marriage" thing and used this as a threat against the few white people who resisted them who had daughters of relevant age like my grandmother's older sister.
I have no idea what my great-grandfather did. I think he caved. He had land, but no cash. His land was flood-prone, but he didn't have enough land to make flood rice farming profitable. Small plot cattle and truck farming got him a decent income. We should remember that black folks of similar status in the once thriving freedmen's community didn't have things this easy. They got cattle run off, they had barns burned. This turned fragile wealth into poverty.
And this absolutely has to do with the police. You think my great grandfather could actually press charges? And do you think that any black folks could even think of filing criminal complaints?
lil Uzi fighting for our rights 9:55 💀
Excellent video btw 👍
Thanks for another insightful and well researched video! Where did the 8 can’t wait come from? And is it related to #8toAbolition ?
Afaik, the 8 to Abolition is a response to 8 Can’t Wait bc of how ineffective police reforms have been in recent years.
Her research is missing some things. Otherwise change the title. Law enforcement can be traced farther back to the American colonies to ancient Egypt amd probably beyond.
Abolish the police is the ask, defund is the compromise.
There are only two levers of power, violence and money. If you want to destroy the police you need to use one of them. The police have us out gunned. Defunding the police is the means by which we will abolish them.
From a thug, to a better armed thug.
Pry my dead cold fingers from it, Ms. Yarbrough.
This video explains 🤔 very much and that is informative 👍.
They were not property owners.
They were possessors of stolen property.
Augustus introduced salaried police in 6 AD, though..😅
interesting vid thanks for making and sharing
Omg I love your shirt!!!
Love your shirt.
Police should protect and serve, but these days they don’t. I wish I could trust police but I can’t anymore and that’s very sad, we can’t even go to them for help, so I guess we have to take matters into our own hands.
Strange she doesn't mention the presence of deputy U.S. marshals in American society. Beginning under the Jefferson administration, deputy marshals were tasked with tracking down and capturing individuals suspected of commiting major crimes and turning them over to federal authorities. In Indian Territory deputy marshals were the only law enforcement officers legally able to apprehend anyone regardless of tribal status as tribal police were only allowed to police Native Americans but not whites or Blacks. Many of the deputy marshals, among the most successful, were members of Native American tribes or Black. Arguably, the greatest deputy marshal ever was my great great grandfather, Bass Reeves, a Black man. Rather than enforcing Jim Crow or Black Codes, Bass tracked down many whites accused or convicted of the racist murder of Blacks and/or and Native Americans, as well as Native and Black criminals. Those Black and Native deputy marshals helped even the injustices heaped on non-whites in a deeply racist post-Civil War United States.
wow i’ve never heard of him before that’s crazy
Great post. Bass Reeves was a great lawman. All respect due to these early marshals. Have one in my family history,
We never hear any politicians criticize police unions today. Politicians in big “liberal” cities lick the boots of police unions.
So there's historical precedence for something like defunding, we just have to learn from the past and do it better this time
Where did you get your Cosmic Sophia shirt?!
Unfortunately policing is still not centralized nor standardized. I'm a big proponent of both because it would codify and provide a high level of continuity in how we operate.
I feel this video could have done a better job on the topic. It should have delved more into the transformation from private and unprofessional policing to organized public policing. While it did a good job of examining flaws in the history of policing, it failed to note more positive evolutions. It should have also covered better systems that were in place prior to night patrols. It also should have looked more at what people might expect if police were abolished. While it is fine for the video to have its biases, it should try to provide a more thorough detail.
Completely disband the police
I thought it started back in the early 1600
I learnd so much about the police
I read about "slave codes" Black codes " and Jim crow laws" Black people have been through hell in America.
I am curious. Why nothing was mentioned about how on September 26, 1789, George Washington signed the commissions of thirteen Marshals. He spent most of Thursday, October 1, dispatching "many of the Commissions of the Judiciary Judges, Marshals, and Attorneys." This work also occupied most of the President's time the next day. Ever conscious of the importance of each office, Washington chose men on whom he could depend to support the federal government without endangering the rights of the states. Or how from 1875 to 1907, Reeves was a commissioned deputy U.S. marshal. He was one of the first, but not the first, African Americans to hold a commission west of the Mississippi River.
What a smart woman!!!!!!!!!
Where can I get that shirt.
Great video, anyone interested in a more in depth look should listen to Robert Evans' Behind the Police miniseries podcast.
Now here's a likkle truth, open up your eye
While you're checkin' out the boom-bap, check the exercise
Take the word overseer, like a sample
Repeat it very quickly in a crew, for example
Overseer, overseer, overseer, overseer
Officer, officer, officer, officer
Yeah, officer from overseer
You need a little clarity? Check the similarity!
The overseer rode around the plantation
The officer is off, patrollin' all the nation
The overseer could stop you, "What you're doing?"
The officer will pull you over just when he's pursuing
The overseer had the right to get ill
And if you fought back, the overseer had the right to kill
The officer has the right to arrest
And if you fight back they put a hole in your chest
(Woop!) They both ride horses
After 400 years, I've got no choices
-KRS One (sound of the police)
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Classic!!!!
I think you can reform the police. Most countries don’t have a problem with theirs.
And before police you were either rich enough to have a private one, or you were sol
When a police officer gets smoked, do shed a tear ?🥴
I don’t mind my taxes go to pbs. These are important videos I know it’s a tiny bit. We should spend more on stuff like this instead of bombs.
Your videos are important and I appreciate the education and view point. You lost me on this one by using the controversial Ferguson shooting the way you did. I want a broader view point, but please be careful that you don’t take the easy road. If you’re misleading with information I do know about, how can I trust you to educate me on information I don’t know about.
Yo this is such a dope channel
More brilliant words have never been spoken.
Inquisitions and slavery started at same time
Teach them jujitsu, no need for a knee on his head. If there are social workers they could be just as capable martial artists.
Your seriously delusional, champ. Or just permanently high.