@@bv12ringer You don't understand how a dovetail works if you think that having some play when the set screw isn't locked down is a problem... Mathews made the cutout so the major sight manufacturers sights would all fit into the pocket. Black Gold is the biggest dovetail and obviously they were ok leaving them out, maybe because they are owned by Bowtech... If you look at the cutout in the riser, it is not a typical dovetail cutout. The one side is actually a radius so no matter the dovetail shape, it will work as long as it fits in the pocket, hits the flat on one side and the round on the other side. Mathews is not going to machine a different riser for every single sight dovetail on the market just so each bar fits snug, which is a complete moot point.
Black gold will make one soon to fit it I have a feeling because they are a top quality Bow sight manufacturer ( in my opinion one of the Best If not the Best ) no matter who owns them ..
Thanks for the info. A way to make this video even more useful would be to mount them and determine which of the sights have enough lateral movement to actually be sighted in, granted that position will be slightly different for everybody based on how much they torque the bow but a general idea would be good. I'm guessing most of the sights off the shelf right now will be aweful close bottoming out on windage movement to the right. I get it though, that would take a lot of time.... time is money. Also in the short term you ought to just get some black gold dovetails milled liked you did that one and sell them for a premium!
One thing being missed that I’ve run into is the issue with scope alignment. By bringing the mount inside the riser, your scope will have to be able to run much tighter in than normal. I have had several scopes bottom out and not work on some bars.
Man, your videos are awesome..always telling ppl the TRUTH!!! I might just fly out to your shop and myself a new mathews !! Thanks for the awesome videos
More I think about this it should be on the snug side absulutly not loose… the modified one made from BlackGold should be the standard everyone will want
The dovetail fitment issue isn't the only, or even biggest issue I've encountered so far... (at least for more target-oriented sights) Because the mounting point is now offset by an inch more than they were designed for, some sights cannot set enough windage to get to center shot. Example - the CBE Elevate and B3 Exact with a 32mm scope, can't get over enough due to interference with the windage armature. (Specifically using a UV3, CBE VTX 32, or Axcel AV-31) The HoggFather with a UV3 can, just barely. I understand that the Landslyde will work (If you can find one).
This is exactly what I was going to comment with. This is a huge issue. I have the Landslyde in my 29 but have to swap out my 41mm UV3XL for the standard 31mm UV3 dues to the fact I don't have enough windage with any 41mm scope. The AV-31 fits also. This is with my center shot set at "0" on my integrated rest which is exactly 13/16"
Wow this is either a huge blunder on Mathew’s R&D dept or it’s just plain arrogance to think to redesign a bow so that a majority of the accessories on the market won’t work and the buyer will have to purchase all new proprietary accessories. I am being forced to consider a V3 or another brand bow.
@@bv12ringer Irritating, yes.... but I would not go so far as to characterize it that way... it really only impacts 'target' sights of a specific design. And they classify the v3x as a hunting bow, TRX is the target line. And design-wise, it really does have an impact on the balance of the bow with the weight of the sight moved to the centerline.
I don’t think it matters that the smaller dovetail bars have more “play” when first inserted into the riser. The design of the cutout locks different size bars against the flat back part of the cutout and into the bottom curved portion of the cutout. Pretty innovative. The set screw applies downwards/lateral force into the top angled portion of the dovetail (which pushes it flush against the back and down into the curved portion. As long as the bar fits into the riser and is a trapezoidal shape it should lock in place (the smaller bars will just have a larger void above the bar, AKA set screw will need to be inserted deeper to lock the bar into the bottom of the cutout). In my opinion, it would be more beneficial to do a video confirming that the different bars that seem to have more “play” actually lock-in as well as the Axcel. This video doesn’t seem to acknowledge the cutout shape design.
I was thinking the same thing, I am actually going to get either the CX-5 or the CBE hybrid sight for my VX3 29 and would love to see them locked in. Also another problem I heard was popping up was the these dove tails that weren't specifically designed for the v3x didn't have enough windage to the right to sight in. I forget which company it was I think it was a landslide the had to make an adapter to allow for more windage adjustment
If you remove the sight to put in your case... bring able to replicate exactly where it was "jammed" into place before would see difficult to repeat don't you think?
Necro-post... I am wondering if the play in the dovetail (with tension coming from only 1 set screw) will affect the 2nd axis. Wondering how well they will hold zero if removed and replaced.
I would like to see the HHA dovetail. I ordered a V3X and plan on using my Tetra. Hope there is not another of slop in there. That will really mess with my OCD/ADD
Even though I have the new V3X I gotta say Hoyt definitely has the edge with the picatiny rail Mount system because that’s more of a standard Mount even for firearms. You could probably even Mount lights etc on it. Just IMAGINE all the accessory possibilities Hoyt will have with the picatiny system. Mathews definitely took the L on the bridge site system because there doesn’t seem to be an industry standard across all brands AND I’ve seen reports that some sights bottom out when trying to adjust sight far enough right as they were engineered before this system. Mathews got an edge with the SAS system but Hoyt wins on sight mounting (IMO)
It does I seen it in another video, I believe it was a Texas archery shop video. I have been watching and reading all I can about the V3x because I'm about to order one and want to make sure its money well spent. I have rifles that are accurate to 1 mile that don't cost as much as this bow is going to after its fitted up ready to shoot.
I just bought the Mathews V3X 29” bow and after the hanskae rest and everything I was put on a budget so I ended up getting the Rocky Mountain single pin dovetail site and it does fit. It fit snug to because at first I didn’t think it would slide through because of the paint. But yes the Rocky Mountain does fit. After shooting the rocky mountain single pin site I would say it’s one of my least favorite but for hunting it works. I figured I would let everyone know. After watching this video it’s kind of funny that the cheapest site of the dovetails fit the best because I’m serious when I say it’s tight. Lol. Hope this helps.
Like several others I was curious about the modified Black Gold dovetail. Would it be possible to get a caliper measurement of the finished width after it was milled down? Definitely looks like the best fit of all!
Also to clarify Mathews includes a special set screw that bolts tightly to the dovetail so no matter how looses a site may be the set screw tightens it down really nice so there is no play. I have yet to have a problem with the scope alignment because of how close to the riser the site is. This bow shoots really nice. This is my first Mathews I’ve ever owned and I will say I will never shoot another bow. It’s seriously a beast and dead accurate. There is no vibration and it’s super quiet. It was worth every penny spent.
The cbe doesnt bolt down I bought one…it’s so loose that the set screw bottoms out in the bow before touching the sight. Could you also check where the setscrew hits the carbon and whether or not it aligns with the divots?
The problem Iv been seeing that the dovetail isn’t the problem. The problem is that most of the sight aren’t made to go that far left. I had to take my hog father all the way to the left and it just barley made it. When I say left I mean my scope housing. I have my scope housing almost touching the dovetail tail lol.
Yes many sights won't have enough adjustment, or they will just barely have enough. Many sight companies are in the process of making tweaks or adapters so their sights will be more compatible and not maxed out just to barely get sighted in.
I’m just getting into archery, and I’m having such a hard time figuring out what fits and what doesn’t fit. Why the hell do they make so many different sizes in dovetails?
After watching previous videos I’m considering the black gold dual trac for my current PSE bow, probably just the X mount. If I later upgrade to the V3X will it be worth while to get a dove tail modified to mount to the new bow or just transfer it with the x mount?
Hey MFJJ, really enjoying your videos here from Denmark ;) question: I have a Mathews V3 31, and bought a Truglo Range Rover single pin, but if I adjust the sight in where I need it, I run out place and the Rim gets in the way, so I can´t see part of the right side of the sight, is this a known problem for this bow or is it just me who was unlucky ( as always ;) ) and bought the one sight that doesn´t fit :) Thanks for all your videos I really use a lot of time watching them :)
Well that was really stupid of Mathews to make it so the best sights on the market don't fit. I'd never buy a bow that Black Gold won't work on. Obviously you could still use the standard mount but it renders the new advancements useless. So a V3 would be better
True to an extent, the new V3x have different ATA 29 and 33 versus 27 and 31 and the 29 shoots a little faster the the 31(set up identically). I was in the same thought process but I think I will still get the V3x just for to ATA options
Looking at blackgold's website, want their new dual track with their new dovetail that will fit in the V3X but it seems like the dual track isnt available yet. Any insight on this? Also wondering if you know when hamske will that their new design to mount to the mathews.
It’s official, Lancaster Archery is great but MFJJ is better as far as getting right too the Forensic details of archery. Dumb question, since I’m in Michigan, if I wanted to buy a complete new bow set up through your shop, and I gave you all of my actual dimensions ie ,draw length , poundage, total arrow weight, could you get my bow setup and packaged and sent to me in the off season ready to paper tune, sight in, then broadhead tune? I know it sounds stupid but there are quite a few hack shops here in Michigan. I can do the dialing in, I just need it to be in the ball park when delivered. Shops in Michigan can really be arrogant and pushy. It’s simple to me, I hunt Whitetails and turkeys at 40 yards or closer. Don’t need a out west Elk setup, or a long range antelope setup. Thanks for your great videos. 🏹🦌🇺🇸
Do you think it’s possible to go over elite tuning with there technology vs tuning with the rest ? And is cam lean important? If so why , I hear many channels talk about it but no explanation.
Hey Josh I love watching all your stuff plus the guys at elkshape but I was wondering just by looking at it could u tell me if u think the dovetail on the hha tetra tournament might fit snug I no u didn't have one to try out but was just wondering if it might thanks keep up the great work you deffently no your stuff I'd love to come see the shop but I'm in wv
Wow the more I read and watch reviews about the V3X, the more I don’t like it. I feel it’s a major let down when the build up for a new release is the same bow. I like the accessories I have and don’t want an axcel
Question is is there a true dedicated dimension for a dovetail as like a true Picatinny rail has very precise measurements where to a weaver rail it’s not there may and meat not fit to true picatinny attachment
They should just make a bracket that fits on the side of the riser with 2 screws that the dovetail fits into perfectly, that would be brilliant, right?
I wasn't really impressed with any of those sites fitment they were all way too loose a dovetail should be a perfect fit once again the archery industry needs some standardization they run rampant in almost every aspect
HORRIBLE design by Matty again....sloppy inaccurate line up and fit....so you also really narrow down the sights you can actually use on the Matty....what about MBG? PASS
Personally I like the modified black gold Make it nice and tight
Thanks! I agree. I wouldn’t look at that sloppy play and say “it fits”! BS. Huge let down. I expect more from mathews
@@bv12ringer You don't understand how a dovetail works if you think that having some play when the set screw isn't locked down is a problem... Mathews made the cutout so the major sight manufacturers sights would all fit into the pocket. Black Gold is the biggest dovetail and obviously they were ok leaving them out, maybe because they are owned by Bowtech... If you look at the cutout in the riser, it is not a typical dovetail cutout. The one side is actually a radius so no matter the dovetail shape, it will work as long as it fits in the pocket, hits the flat on one side and the round on the other side. Mathews is not going to machine a different riser for every single sight dovetail on the market just so each bar fits snug, which is a complete moot point.
Black gold will make one soon to fit it I have a feeling because they are a top quality Bow sight manufacturer ( in my opinion one of the Best If not the Best ) no matter who owns them ..
I like Black Gold so much I’m waiting until they make something rather than switch.
Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for the info. A way to make this video even more useful would be to mount them and determine which of the sights have enough lateral movement to actually be sighted in, granted that position will be slightly different for everybody based on how much they torque the bow but a general idea would be good. I'm guessing most of the sights off the shelf right now will be aweful close bottoming out on windage movement to the right. I get it though, that would take a lot of time.... time is money. Also in the short term you ought to just get some black gold dovetails milled liked you did that one and sell them for a premium!
A couple of those look like it would be the equivalent of the ol' hot dog down a hallway analogy.......
One thing being missed that I’ve run into is the issue with scope alignment. By bringing the mount inside the riser, your scope will have to be able to run much tighter in than normal. I have had several scopes bottom out and not work on some bars.
Good to know, i didnt think of that either til i saw this comment
I appreciate your integrity when testing. It is refreshing.
Dialed archerys doevtail fits tight like the axcel.
Man, your videos are awesome..always telling ppl the TRUTH!!! I might just fly out to your shop and myself a new mathews !!
Thanks for the awesome videos
Just the video I been waiting for!!! Thanks
HHA has a special dovetail coming out any day now just for the V3X. It is shorter. Theirs currently does fit but is way too long.
I'll be seeing you soon to get a fill new rig set up! U keep changing my mind in builder's and seem to have your shit together!! Godbless
Great content Josh, always looking forward for the next video. I'll be coming to your shop in the spring for a full setup on a new v3x 33.
More I think about this it should be on the snug side absulutly not loose… the modified one made from BlackGold should be the standard everyone will want
I needed this, even though I was pretty sure, I just wanted to hear it and see it.
Can you share how much you had to machine down the dovetail on the MBG to make it fit?
Great video. I work PT at a shop and just tried the HHA tetra max on the V3X 29. Fit was similar to spot hogg. HHA will be a good option.
Can you compare the new low pro quiver with tight spot?
Great video, you should do a follow up when you get the new black gold dovetail we are all waiting for.
The dovetail fitment issue isn't the only, or even biggest issue I've encountered so far... (at least for more target-oriented sights) Because the mounting point is now offset by an inch more than they were designed for, some sights cannot set enough windage to get to center shot. Example - the CBE Elevate and B3 Exact with a 32mm scope, can't get over enough due to interference with the windage armature. (Specifically using a UV3, CBE VTX 32, or Axcel AV-31) The HoggFather with a UV3 can, just barely. I understand that the Landslyde will work (If you can find one).
This is exactly what I was going to comment with. This is a huge issue. I have the Landslyde in my 29 but have to swap out my 41mm UV3XL for the standard 31mm UV3 dues to the fact I don't have enough windage with any 41mm scope. The AV-31 fits also. This is with my center shot set at "0" on my integrated rest which is exactly 13/16"
Wow this is either a huge blunder on Mathew’s R&D dept or it’s just plain arrogance to think to redesign a bow so that a majority of the accessories on the market won’t work and the buyer will have to purchase all new proprietary accessories. I am being forced to consider a V3 or another brand bow.
@@bv12ringer Irritating, yes.... but I would not go so far as to characterize it that way... it really only impacts 'target' sights of a specific design. And they classify the v3x as a hunting bow, TRX is the target line. And design-wise, it really does have an impact on the balance of the bow with the weight of the sight moved to the centerline.
All dovetails should be the same size like all picatinny rails are.
I don’t think it matters that the smaller dovetail bars have more “play” when first inserted into the riser. The design of the cutout locks different size bars against the flat back part of the cutout and into the bottom curved portion of the cutout. Pretty innovative.
The set screw applies downwards/lateral force into the top angled portion of the dovetail (which pushes it flush against the back and down into the curved portion. As long as the bar fits into the riser and is a trapezoidal shape it should lock in place (the smaller bars will just have a larger void above the bar, AKA set screw will need to be inserted deeper to lock the bar into the bottom of the cutout). In my opinion, it would be more beneficial to do a video confirming that the different bars that seem to have more “play” actually lock-in as well as the Axcel. This video doesn’t seem to acknowledge the cutout shape design.
I was thinking the same thing, I am actually going to get either the CX-5 or the CBE hybrid sight for my VX3 29 and would love to see them locked in.
Also another problem I heard was popping up was the these dove tails that weren't specifically designed for the v3x didn't have enough windage to the right to sight in. I forget which company it was I think it was a landslide the had to make an adapter to allow for more windage adjustment
If you remove the sight to put in your case... bring able to replicate exactly where it was "jammed" into place before would see difficult to repeat don't you think?
Necro-post... I am wondering if the play in the dovetail (with tension coming from only 1 set screw) will affect the 2nd axis. Wondering how well they will hold zero if removed and replaced.
How much did you take off that BG truss? I have a neighbor that has a milling machine and a oven to coat
I would like to see the HHA dovetail.
I ordered a V3X and plan on using my Tetra.
Hope there is not another of slop in there. That will really mess with my OCD/ADD
Even though I have the new V3X I gotta say Hoyt definitely has the edge with the picatiny rail Mount system because that’s more of a standard Mount even for firearms. You could probably even Mount lights etc on it. Just IMAGINE all the accessory possibilities Hoyt will have with the picatiny system.
Mathews definitely took the L on the bridge site system because there doesn’t seem to be an industry standard across all brands AND I’ve seen reports that some sights bottom out when trying to adjust sight far enough right as they were engineered before this system.
Mathews got an edge with the SAS system but Hoyt wins on sight mounting (IMO)
Have u tried a few . See if there is enough windage . Did u file down the bar or get it milled.
Off topic but would you be able to tell me if the new mathews quiver fits on the 2021 V3 ?
It does I seen it in another video, I believe it was a Texas archery shop video. I have been watching and reading all I can about the V3x because I'm about to order one and want to make sure its money well spent. I have rifles that are accurate to 1 mile that don't cost as much as this bow is going to after its fitted up ready to shoot.
How about the new Garmin sight?
I just bought the Mathews V3X 29” bow and after the hanskae rest and everything I was put on a budget so I ended up getting the Rocky Mountain single pin dovetail site and it does fit. It fit snug to because at first I didn’t think it would slide through because of the paint. But yes the Rocky Mountain does fit. After shooting the rocky mountain single pin site I would say it’s one of my least favorite but for hunting it works. I figured I would let everyone know. After watching this video it’s kind of funny that the cheapest site of the dovetails fit the best because I’m serious when I say it’s tight. Lol. Hope this helps.
in the world of auto, aerospace aircraft technology it’s pretty amazing how sloppy ALL of these sights fit
Any details of the trophy ridge dovetail will fit?
Thanks
Waiting on this one as well
Yup me also
Any update
How about the CBE adapter dovetail?
Great Video!
Can u use traditional sights and still use the low profile quivers??
Curious to see if the Garmin A1i pro dovetail fits it
Garmin dove tail in picture looks to be to be dovetailed on both sides … if that’s the case NO…
MFJJ,
What are the dimensions of that BG dovetail that you had machined to fit the V3X bridge lock? I’d like to do the same. Thickness and height?
Like several others I was curious about the modified Black Gold dovetail. Would it be possible to get a caliper measurement of the finished width after it was milled down? Definitely looks like the best fit of all!
Also have you notice the roller Guide hitting your blazer vanes?
My CBE elevate didn’t have enough right adjustment to fit
It's almost hoyt release time
Also to clarify Mathews includes a special set screw that bolts tightly to the dovetail so no matter how looses a site may be the set screw tightens it down really nice so there is no play. I have yet to have a problem with the scope alignment because of how close to the riser the site is. This bow shoots really nice. This is my first Mathews I’ve ever owned and I will say I will never shoot another bow. It’s seriously a beast and dead accurate. There is no vibration and it’s super quiet. It was worth every penny spent.
Shot it few days again and agree I haven't bought a new bow since the no cam it's time these things are super smooth and amazingly quiet
Could you do a review on the Athens vista series?
The cbe doesnt bolt down I bought one…it’s so loose that the set screw bottoms out in the bow before touching the sight.
Could you also check where the setscrew hits the carbon and whether or not it aligns with the divots?
I wonder if the CBE engage would fit better than the CBE carbon ..
2:11 that's what my wife told me
Sure-Loc sights?
Sword definitely fits. I can send you photos.
The problem Iv been seeing that the dovetail isn’t the problem. The problem is that most of the sight aren’t made to go that far left. I had to take my hog father all the way to the left and it just barley made it. When I say left I mean my scope housing. I have my scope housing almost touching the dovetail tail lol.
I believe another sight company had to make adapter to move the housing a few mm to allow for full zeroing and still have ability to used the windage.
Yes many sights won't have enough adjustment, or they will just barely have enough. Many sight companies are in the process of making tweaks or adapters so their sights will be more compatible and not maxed out just to barely get sighted in.
I’m just getting into archery, and I’m having such a hard time figuring out what fits and what doesn’t fit. Why the hell do they make so many different sizes in dovetails?
Anyone know if B3 dovetails fit?
Any issues with windage with the axcel carbon pro sight ?
What about apex covert
I'm curious about this one as well
@Podium Archer- Great video! HI Josh- Can I pre-order/buy one of the new BG 4in Dovetail mounts. I have a single Pin Pro sight.
What about the copper John sights?
After watching previous videos I’m considering the black gold dual trac for my current PSE bow, probably just the X mount. If I later upgrade to the V3X will it be worth while to get a dove tail modified to mount to the new bow or just transfer it with the x mount?
Hey MFJJ, really enjoying your videos here from Denmark ;) question: I have a Mathews V3 31, and bought a Truglo Range Rover single pin, but if I adjust the sight in where I need it, I run out place and the Rim gets in the way, so I can´t see part of the right side of the sight, is this a known problem for this bow or is it just me who was unlucky ( as always ;) ) and bought the one sight that doesn´t fit :) Thanks for all your videos I really use a lot of time watching them :)
I had a viper dovetail.. i think it would fit and I had a rocky mountain dovetail i think it would fit too but im not sure. Does B3 make a dovetail?
Does the trophy ridge bridge lock adapter fit?
How much material did you take off the black gold dove tail to make it fit? And what did you use to do so??
Well that was really stupid of Mathews to make it so the best sights on the market don't fit. I'd never buy a bow that Black Gold won't work on. Obviously you could still use the standard mount but it renders the new advancements useless. So a V3 would be better
True to an extent, the new V3x have different ATA 29 and 33 versus 27 and 31 and the 29 shoots a little faster the the 31(set up identically). I was in the same thought process but I think I will still get the V3x just for to ATA options
Looking at blackgold's website, want their new dual track with their new dovetail that will fit in the V3X but it seems like the dual track isnt available yet. Any insight on this? Also wondering if you know when hamske will that their new design to mount to the mathews.
Cbe engage shouldn't?! Based purely on set screw location on those dovetails? --- I am arrogantly assuming that is the case.
Any chance a shibuya sight bar would fit? Or would it be possible to get the dimensions of the axcel sight bar so I can compare against the shibuya?
It’s official, Lancaster Archery is great but MFJJ is better as far as getting right too the Forensic details of archery. Dumb question, since I’m in Michigan, if I wanted to buy a complete new bow set up through your shop, and I gave you all of my actual dimensions ie ,draw length , poundage, total arrow weight, could you get my bow setup and packaged and sent to me in the off season ready to paper tune, sight in, then broadhead tune? I know it sounds stupid but there are quite a few hack shops here in Michigan. I can do the dialing in, I just need it to be in the ball park when delivered. Shops in Michigan can really be arrogant and pushy. It’s simple to me, I hunt Whitetails and turkeys at 40 yards or closer. Don’t need a out west Elk setup, or a long range antelope setup. Thanks for your great videos. 🏹🦌🇺🇸
You'd have to buy the bare bow local and then ship it to me. We can do the rest of it but can't ship you a bow from here
Cool how you get to pay a grand and wait for an “upgrade “ that maybe kinda technically fits
Just love the 99 dollar and up free shipping part of every video
He's trying to make extra money obviously he runs a business pretty smart using internet to branch out
Will the trophy ridge one pin pro dovetail fit MFJJ thanks
Do you think it’s possible to go over elite tuning with there technology vs tuning with the rest ? And is cam lean important? If so why , I hear many channels talk about it but no explanation.
Hey Josh I love watching all your stuff plus the guys at elkshape but I was wondering just by looking at it could u tell me if u think the dovetail on the hha tetra tournament might fit snug I no u didn't have one to try out but was just wondering if it might thanks keep up the great work you deffently no your stuff I'd love to come see the shop but I'm in wv
What about the aluminum dovetail axcel sights will they fit?
Does the CBE hybrid sight have the same dove tail as the CX-5?
Anybody try a Sure-Loc Supreme?
You should do a video on the axcel windage offset bracket that you need with the acxcel sights
Is this really a marketing department's wet dream or is the packaging with the 2 piece quiver and sight really worth it?
Wow the more I read and watch reviews about the V3X, the more I don’t like it. I feel it’s a major let down when the build up for a new release is the same bow. I like the accessories I have and don’t want an axcel
I’m running a b3 exact 3D sight bar. Any idea if it’d a lot of slop or not?
Check out Dialed Archery. Would like to know your thoughts.
Question is is there a true dedicated dimension for a dovetail as like a true Picatinny rail has very precise measurements where to a weaver rail it’s not there may and meat not fit to true picatinny attachment
Do all model spot hogs fit?
Me watching this video even though I don't own a V3x
Will the Trophy ridge react one pro dovetail fit?
Yes it will!
I just got the react one pro dovetail installed on my vx3 29. It barely fits left to right. Dovetail fits great.
Xp achieve does but you run out of adjustment
They should just make a bracket that fits on the side of the riser with 2 screws that the dovetail fits into perfectly, that would be brilliant, right?
I wasn't really impressed with any of those sites fitment they were all way too loose a dovetail should be a perfect fit once again the archery industry needs some standardization they run rampant in almost every aspect
Trophy ridge dove tail sets crooked & low… crap.. sight is amazing just not a good dove tail fit
Wanna sell the modified black gold dovetail?
BlackGold doesn't fit!!!
Some other shit bout you dont know about HHA?
HORRIBLE design by Matty again....sloppy inaccurate line up and fit....so you also really narrow down the sights you can actually use on the Matty....what about MBG? PASS