4 Months of the LIFT
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2023
- The LIFT - 4 Months Later... After running the LIFT for 4 months the guys check in on some sight tinkering and look at how well the MATCH strings are holding up. The sight scope is from Dark Owl Archery and Dan is running it on the UV Slider frame. #elkshape #ABT #MathewsLIFT
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One hell of a good show thank you guys Another one hit out of the park.
I've shot every bow they've put out for the last 5 years and this is the first one that felt like an upgrade to me. It's noticeably lighter and seems to hold well for me. The draw cycle even seems smoother to me somehow. Traded my VX3 in on the Lift 33.
Thanks guys! Highlight of my day. I’ve been very close to hitting the buy now button in the DOA Stealth.
Thank you
Just ordered my lift recently. I didn't need to but I had money burning a hole in my pocket and Mathews marketing finally broke me down
I was eyeballing the Lift but it was actually MFJJ talking about it which made me pull the trigger. I'm super happy I did, it's an outstanding bow.
@@TangoOne from the first time I held it I knew. It was finally something really good and worth the cash
I’ve wanting to buy a mathews flagship bow going all the way back to the halon. I’m kinda glad it didn’t work out all those years, been shooting my lift 29.5 for about a month and I love it! I was previously shooting a Z7 which is kinda like going from a civic to a Mercedes. The civic performed well but you, know what I’m saying! I have an hha tetra max in it right now but my UV 3 ships in April and I am beyond pumped for that to arrive. Finally building my dream bow!
@@rickd0320congrats man.
To light your pins without bolting anything on your bow: tape a halo nock/nockturnal or whatever you use to the bottom of a piece of gafers tape and then tape that to the fiber optics in the field. I typically keep a small piece of tape wrapped around one of my stabs and keep extra lighted knocks in my bino harness. Happy hunting
Sticking with the phase 4 for a few years. I picked the wrong year to buy the mathews
I freak'n love my LIFT 33
You are going to see shorter and shorter limbs on all bows going forward. This reduces the amount of reflex, is less expensive, yields less vibration, and will also allow them to trim just a bit more weight.
Man i wish i had someone who knew what they were talking about when adjusting the sight to the bow. Every place i go to they just said its fine but fine just isnt good enough for me. Cant wait to get my lift in though.
It's very easy to level a sight to your bow. Just do it yourself. It's something every archer should know how to do.
It is great that BOTH Mathews and Hoyt did 3 years of innovation in one year. In fact, if you break it down in great detail and with true honesty, Hoyt even did more revisions than Mathews this year. Both great - I shoot both brands, no bias here. My Hoyt bows prior to this year had great strings and this year they are even better. My new Rx-8 Ultra has amazing factory strings - they have a few hundred shots through them and peep has not moved and they show no signs of wear. I don't have a new Lift, so I have zero knowledge firsthand of the new Mathews strings.
What did hoyt do other than cam button, riser cut outs and. . . .? Not much else, to me atleast
Hoyt did do a lot just doesn’t feel near as good as the Mathew’s haha also doesn’t sound as good the Hoyt’s sounds like a train truck every time you fire it compared to the mathews. Hoyt definitely got left in the dust A for effort though . The bow techs feel better then the Hoyt’s this year
@@zachlewis9451 hoyt did a new cam with new bearings and spacers are bigger and aluminum, 1/4 in draw adjustments, 3 let off positions, 3 mods and the bump on the cam. Completely new aluminum riser, added threaded hole to lock in go sticks, added new go sticks… changed from c clips to larger axles with bolts, changed limb pockets, changed to wider limbs, they also did a new string type similar to Mathew’s.. and of course removed some dampeners because they weren’t needed with the new limbs and wider pockets
@@joshflanery1352 fair enough but that's still basic stuff everyone else has already done, except the go sticks and cam bump. Athens archery is what people need to look at. They changed alot and it's all about ease of tuning. Which hoyt did nothing to address still the same terrible shim system in the cams to change the wheel lean.
@@Sneakyjoe69 Have you shot the new hoyt’s lol? The truth is every manufacturer has a good bow out now and what you think is completely subjective to what I think. I’ve shot them side by side and the hoyt has less vibe at least on the aluminum side and the sound difference isn’t enough to tell a difference them apart.
Waiting for my LIFT 29.5 to come in this week... It's (hopefully) the speed answer my short 27.5" draw length has been searching for, for a long, long time. I had to have my pro shop strip the 75lb. Mods off of the demo bow and put them aside for me since finding the correct length/ weight mods for these bows is harder than finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It's definitely got a MUCH stiffer draw than my current bow, but I can't wait to get to slinging arrows once my bow comes in.
Best thing as a substitute for a light, small glow sticks taped over your fiber
This is really about the sight. Strings may look fine, I want to know how much serving separation has happened under the d loop knots?
I finally found a left handed 33 in stock and was able to shoot it a bit. I decided to pick it up, spend some time with it, and wanted to report out my real world findings. To be honest, I was very skeptical about this bow when I first saw the release of it. When I first inspected one in person, my skepticism grew. You can literally grab the cam and bend it around in all directions (of course with the bow at brace) as the limbs are so skinny they just flex like crazy. I was worried about that from a durability standpoint. I was also worried about the cams being very, very skeletonized. They seem like they would be easy to bend, etc. Those were some initial observations before I got to shoot one.
I got to shoot one and my first reaction was 1) the draw cycle is very linear, just stiff 2) there is no valley (even at 85%) 3) the vibe/shock after the shot is more than the Phase 4 and 4) the riser length adds to stability significantly 5) something different in the grip where your thumb fits is improved. I shot it with both C and D draw length mods and landed on taking it home with the C mod. I bought the bow and took it home (we do our own set up and tuning at home)......
Set up was easy. With a center shot rest we had a perfect bullet hole with ZERO top hat changes or any other changes. The Match strings are an improvement over the Zebra, not sure how much of an improvement but they are better. They are thinner and they did settle very quickly and my peep locked in. So I just started shooting it for a few days. The bow has a very clean shot cycle, very clean release. With it all set up, the vibe/shock was mostly gone. I got used to the draw cycle being stiff. I never did like the lack of a valley. My style of shooting my hinge is to relax/elongate the palm of my hand and that style does not work well with a bow with no valley.
As I shot it, I realized the C mod was making me feel a bit long. I was not stable at full draw and could feel being a bit overextended. My shop still had the D mods, so I switched to them and now I was too short, feeling scrunched up. When I am scrunched up, I have hand torque. For me, having the draw length perfect is a huge issue, as I finally found out how well I shoot when my draw length is spot on. It matters hugely! So, sadly, I am caught between a D and C on this new Mathews cam and not comfortable at either. Note on the previous Mathews cam the D mod worked well for me). Yes, could I twist strings and/or remove the grip and/or fiddle with D loop length or even my release neck length (different releases) - yes I could do all of that to try and get the Lift 33 to fit my draw length. Since I have other bows I shoot well, I did not want to put that level of effort into the Lift, so I sold it/traded it. As long as Mathews runs this newest cam with the 1/2" draw length limits, I am probably out of luck with Mathews.
Conclusion, while I can't speak to the long term durability of the bow/cams, if your draw length fits one of the draw mods and if you are OK with no valley, this bow could be a great choice for you. Thank you.
There’s a new series of aluminum. Chemical analysis has shown it has a higher strength and weighs less compared to other series of aluminum.
I want to see the serving on the cables were the cable rolls off the end of the mod at full draw
Thats the place that mathews has the worste serving seperation
If the strings are built well it will show there
Is there ANY way to get a module for at least 31.5" draw?
Not level bc the string is what we're leveling not the riser?
I’ll tell you who doesn’t appreciate the innovation. Dudes that bought the phase 4. In over here like “my brand new bow is obsolete” And I’m wondering why all the innovation? I guess that’s what happens when you get the first edition of something new.
Pregunto si es un arco especial para enanitos?
What lb do you perfer on the lift 70 or 80, im a strong guy, curious how the cycle and performance is compared,,,i am at that crossroad right now
UV looks big and bulky….What does it weigh?
This is not a hater comment just information. The nock fit on every nock I have is too tight on the match strings. I had wild inconsistency at long range. I found some older nocturnals that fit loose on the string and it cleared up the issue. I have checked on six of the lifts I have access to and they all have the same issue. I have always purchased after market strings so I don’t know if this has been an issue before the match strings.
Interesting, what nocks do you use? I haven’t noticed this at all with stock Easton, Black Eagle, or Gold Tip nocks.
The fit nock nocturnals and the standard nocks that come on the victory and black eagle arrows
So from what I'm taking out of it, the dark out scope is a lot like a dial scope right? Like they're three pin one because my dial is in in 20 47 and 65
Yes but I believe Dark Owl takes it a step further when it comes to the building pin gaps. They’ll build it around what sight tape you have on specific to the mounted slider frame on your bow…HHA, Spot Hogg, etc. Cos a dial type tape will be different compared to a vertical tape. Crazy geometry stuff lol.
Yup. Basically you can get the 3 pins to be 20,30,40 based on your bow speed, and two measurements that we have on a prior video explaining how to do this. 👌🏻
What irritates me is that I got my lift 33 early and the shop had no mods or top hats to tune. Nobody has them. What’s the point in selling these if you can’t tune them? Stuck with an out of tune bow that is 1/2” too long in the draw length. A couple of shops have recently received some top hat kits but they won’t sell them.
It’s still mind blowing how Josh says it’s only 30$ more, that may be true but they make up/ exceed profits in the inflation of there accessories, just do the diff in old accessories vs new, still a nice bow but not saving money
The new bridgelock stabilizer is CNC machined which takes longer to make, which also means it cost more to make. The older ones were just a simple carbon rod.
I wish I would have know this before. I have a ss34 on layaway because I'm new at this. Right now I have a Salida x8 with a redline site. An apache rest. With new strings. I have a 28 draw. Is that a too short of a draw . For this bow? Should I have gone with a different bow. Because bow shop didn't really say. Did I make a bad choice?
That's a fine bow. Don't worry about it.
Ok great thank you.
It just makes me mad that because I’m 5’9 and only have a draw of 27 I can’t maximize my bow😐
Hey MFJJ, all my local shops are backed up a while, can you ship?
I’d check his website
@@mikemellon80 I did. There not there. Curious because he was talking about how many he had in stock and didn’t see them on website
@@shanedavis6306 that stinks thought maybe he would. eBay is a good spot to check too if you haven’t already
Why are the titles of these videos not aligned with the content discussed? Basically zero discussion about strings…
Yea the strings thing… not what they are cracked up to be.. I proved that much.
If you’re not a fan boy, you sure in hell full a lot of people including yourself, 😂all you do I mean all you do is talk about how much you love Mathews! I shot the lift not impressed at all
2 possibilities here: 1, you didn’t actually shoot it. 2, you didn’t want to be impressed…..I’m guessing the former.
For the money spent you really should get a couple mods included (instead of having to buy additional ones should you want to change let off/draw lengths) Mathews is a big enough company they can do better.
I would agree with maybe a little cheap but this bow is top tier pse Hoyt are the only ones in the ballpark and it’s cheap u can use other sight the hole 9 yards but your getting a warranty most bow don’t and the other companies have the same price for so u don’t have to shoot one and u can get different sights quivers and stabilizers not trying to be rude I bought a viper bridge lock stabilizer I older Mathew quiver fits the same and a garmin sight that costed as much as the everybody wants it to be cheaper but stores are selling them so fast I bought a 33 just to get the bow instead of what I wanted I’m just saying that not to step on your toes
@JohnNeedham-zk5ms I think all major manufacturers make a top tier bow some brands like Darton & Athens go overlooked because Mathews has an almost cult like following. It's your money spend it how you like & I'm in no way saying Mathews is garbage, on the contrary they make a very nice product. I just think there is more bang for your buck out there & some people get so caught up in brand identity they feel what they shoot is the best out there & forget none of these manufacturers sponsor them. I still feel for what you get Mathews is overpriced but it seems to work for them & your absolutely correct people still buy the heck out of them.
Can I get Match strings for my Creed?
Right now Mathews only offer Match strings for the Phase 4 and above. I would think they would make an acceptation to the V3X (because it’s pretty much the same bow as the Phase 4) but it’s not an option on their website.
@@cozycare1655 the measurements are the same for the phase 4 as they are the v3x so it's all the same
My match strings were absolute garbage right from the factory before it was even shot once. Had it replace them immediately. My bow shop had the pictures but almost half the strands were loose and I couldn’t even have a peep installed.
Sounds like a warranty issue...
We got in a title 38 with loose strands in it also
Zebras sound good then 😂
I had the same issue with the strings. Like the bow a lot though
@@tylerwestall7875 oh I absolutely love my lift!!!! So far it’s probably my favorite bow of all time that I’ve owned.
Did you get mods yet. I'm shooting it a half inch long because no one cam get mods
So Mathew’s let a secret out a year early. Then they released the rest a year later.
They really didn’t change everything lol it’s the same platform and a lot closer to the phase 4 than we are pretending here. I own both.
A few riser cutouts a different shape cam with nearly the exact same Draw force curve. Limbs that are a little shorter. It’s the same engine it has a new set of wheels and new radio inside. And a lot of cable rubbing unfortunately.
You're right. New riser, limb pockets, limbs, cams, cams sitting on top of the limbs, new strings... it's basically the same bow.
@@TangoOne not a new riser it’s new cutouts just like they do every year. Same material. Limb pockets are nearly identical they are a tad shorter. Limbs are nearly identical just a tad shorter. Cam is very similar hunts to why the DFC is identical. Strings are new to some degree but still the same mass produced stuff. My strings are uneven under the serving straight from the factory. Put 5k arrows through both as I have you’ll see there’s really not much different in the big picture .
However I do like the new axle config better it has tighter tolerances. But it unfortunately has kinks that need to be worked out.
It's not just new cutouts, if you look at the two side by side there are differences which show they didn't just take a phase 4 riser and add more cuts.@@jwild5360
@jwild5360 I'm shooting a DXT Still and this bow finally got me thinking about an upgrade.....but in my mind, with all the changes this year, seems like a good time to wait ONE more year to allow them time to maybe work out those "kinks" you speak of.
@@adamredden2007 good call
Does an entire video, thumbnail and the description make you believe it’s gonna be a review on the match strings, don’t even think they got mentioned
Did I miss something? You guys didn’t even mention the new Match strings once 😂
You missed it....
So much talking and you dont even barely mention the match strings
That guys annoying ruin ur video
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Between the horrible misinformation and the new cringeworthy, homosexual looking thumbnails, I don't understand how either of these two betas are remotely relevant. Crazy.
Feel better now?
Calm down there Patrick 😂
Who hurt you?
I’m not deleting this comment, it brings me joy
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