I’ve NEVER seen SSDs/HDDs this cheap, will it last? - Probing Paul #82
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- I’ve NEVER seen SSDs/HDDs this cheap, will it last? - Probing Paul #82
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0:00 Welcome to Probing Paul #82 - MAIL TIME + Q&A
1:00 Pre-Probing Notes on SSD Prices
2:08 MAIL TIME - a “Driverless” USB Wifi + BT Adapter
3:10 MAIL TIME - $170 4TB Gen4 M.2 SSD, and a look at current price per GB
4:30 MAIL TIME - 6TB + 14TB HDDs, and Why I need More Storage
7:17 MAIL TIME - M.2 SSD “Toaster” Dock and External 10-20Gbps M.2 Enclosures
11:51 MAIL TIME - Letters from Jasen C. and Michael P.
13:00 MAIL TIME - Freeze-Dried Candy and Mugs from Reuben
15:32 Q1 - How are things going after being moved back home for 1-2 months?
17:02 Q2 - Are melting 12VHPWR connectors still a problem for the RTX 4090?
19:01 Q3 - What PC part is your favorite?
20:00 Q4 - Who or what influenced your taste in music?
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Watching Paul get probed is enjoyable. 😎
He likes it when we watch
You gay bruh
You guys like to probe him real hard.
That’s what SHE said. 🫢
He gets through it like a champ, too.
19:02 SAME! 👏👏 Motherboards have always been the PC component that has fascinated me the most! I still feel they are underappreciated, even with as overpriced as they've become in recent years
@Psycho-Ben
Why you find that fascinating ? underappreciated?
We only care for the GPU, is the CPU not bottlenecking the RTX 4090 ?
2 DIMMS in it on XPM, GPU + CPU, why fascinating ?
@@lucasrem pretty fascinating that you can't yet get a tonne of USB-C ports on the front panel, where most of us want them ;) But there's an insane amount of options for motherboards. What USB ports do you have, does it have heatsinks covering 90% of the thing people even care about the colour of the PCB material. I mean, not me, because that way lies RGB and colour matching your internal gear to your case. There's futureproofing and options around NVMEs and so on. It'll get more interesting when Direct Storage actually starts improving our lives which I gather is due around the time commercial fusion comes to fruition, judging by how often I hear about games implementing it.
2:18 Paul really just took "treat yoself" to a whole different level.
I just wanted to say thank you for your overall levelheaded approach to content creation. I’ve been recently displaced from my previously presumed “comfortable home” and your clear approach to the continuity of your content is a very welcoming and an anchor to my hectic life.
Once again, thank you.
Oh my the SSD Probe isnt supposed to go there paul! Dont want to make that floppy disk turn into a hard drive.
Especially if it has the wrong key.
"That needs screws put in it" . . . . that was from the heart. Seriously, almost started to go off on a rant. You should do an occasional serious called "Venting Paul", where you can talk truly critically about gamer related and other issues.
Also: I too am most fascinated by motherboards. I definitely spend more time picking one than I do with any other component. Except maybe the case.
Paul is definitely “adapting” well in his new environment.
Nice to see something nice from Maine. We are having a rough time of it right now as I post this...
Currently have three systems with NVME drives in them. And I also have three spare NVME drives because Samsung Pro drives were on sale and I couldn't resist. Also have over a dozen USB 64GB drives half of which are just backing up some files and some just have ISO images on for installing Linux distros.
Got a couple TB of the Linux ISO's ;)
I'm old enough to have been thrilled when I got two floppy drives for my C64 and bought the hole puncher that allowed me to use both sides of the 5-1/4 disks so I could get 256k storage per disk. Then I remember when I was glad I could afford a 386SX with a 65MB HDD -- sweet! A library of 2MB 3-1/2 inch floppies followed, and eventually iOmega Zip drives with 25MB(!) disks. Then some years later, after trying out ripping to CDs and DVDs for long term storage, I bought two 16GB HDDs (at $160 each) and was thrilled I had "all the storage I'd ever need". Somewhere later I got into SSDs (internal and external). And now I have 2TB M2 drives in my PCs.... wonder what will come along next....maybe those glass storage plates Microsoft is working on (or not -- glass seems way too fragile).
The thrill of moving from cassette tape to a floppy drive (I only had one) on my C64 was immeasurable. Biggest generational upgrade I ever made! (the move from floppy to HDD I suppose was pretty big, but floppies took minutes off my load time, now I only save mere seconds 🤣)
Interesting perspective. I bet we get a new form of storage soon perhaps
what comes next is already here, 6g is being tested with 7g predicted in 5-10 years
eventually that will replace all hard drives
I think if you compare the actual silicon to the glass, and consider what they are, you'll be fine with the glass. But obviously I'll believe such technology when it's commercially viable at a consumer level :D Also, I remember all the tech you mentioned and had my share of it, and Zip drives were seen as mind bogglingly advanced. We're still using tape drives in data centres as far as I know.
Me too! Looking back, it's crazy how we went from big floppy kilobyte floppies to small stiff megabyte floppies, and from megabyte PATA HDDs, to gigabyte SATA HDDs.
Now we have pinky fingernail-sized stiff terabyte "floppies" for $100 and some change. 😮
Paul Simon was a staple on our road trips. Great music for long drives with the kids...
Watch the cables that come with the USB M.2 enclosures. I bought a Sabrent M.2 enclosure, and the cable was bad. All support told me was to return it for another one. I figured I would get the same result, so I bought a Thunderbolt 4 cable, and it started working correctly.
14:58 You’ve been “Ruebened” - the mugs are gold!
It maybe 1 cent in the USA but the Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530 (WUH721414ALE6L4) SATA Enterprise HDD 7200 RPM, 14 TB is £262.18 or $317.96 in the UK.
I was looking at PSU pricing today and was blown away. The Seasonic SGX-500 sitting in the box was $60 from Newegg a few years ago and was like $150 now. 😮
ptk
old parts are more fancy then newer products.
Who needs 500 NVMe old drives ?
You need PCIe gen 5 ?
@@lucasrem what? I was saying that the PSU sitting on my desk has almost tripled in price in 2 years.
Yeah, I'm looking to upgrade mine (BeQuiet Power 9 600w) as well aiming at a decent 80+ Gold in the A tier list and for a 750w I need to pay at least 130€. Found a NZXT C750 Gold (2022- CWT) at 110€ so might pick it up, despite the lack of pcie-5 port.
PSU has blown in price and also dropped in quality during pandemic due to the chip shortage. And they never went up back to their previous quality while they remained as expensive...
@@GLDragon93 I am very glad I made an impulse buy on these 500w PSUs. I was buying something else and saw the seasonics for $60‐70 plus a $10 rebate.
@@pkt1213 Literally nothing lucasrem said makes sense. I'm trying to wrap my head around it, and I'm pretty sure I just gave myself a traumatic brain injury from shaking my head so much, LOL. I agree with your original assessment. I remember when you could get a CPU/Mobo combo cheaper than you could a mid-tier GPU. and could never figure out why. I also remember buying a 750W power supply for a little over $60 back in early-ish 2000's, (2008, or so).
I think it's because PSUs do a lot more than just deliver power now, like they used to. Now they've become a power delivery system, AND a 1st line of defense/early warning system for anything related to PC power. Of course it could also be them taking advantage, lol.
Pauls stamina, no - VIGOR is impressive! Probed so many times, yet he's still chugging along.
20:39 Paul Simon's album *Graceland* is fantastic!
Killer NVMe prices. I picked up the 4TB Crucial P3 NVMe for $220 1 year ago, crazy how that same drive is going for like $50 less now.
That SSK is really nice! I have one myself but the mounting system is kinda funky. It comes in Super handy!
I have to admit I was quite surprised when SK Hynix had took over Intel Drives. At least they are extending the life and usefulness of the drives. Now, it seems that it is now easier to get into any type of storage than it was decades ago.
Solidigm looks to be going places
@@profosistGood company. I worked with some of the Intel guys that are over there now. Some really good looking enterprise products.
Paul, you mentioned talking about MB's. I would appreciate knowing more about the added functions that are mentioned by MB manufacturers but not explained much, such as some of the EUFI settings, the various advanced technologies between MB and CPU. You mentioned a problem with the connector on latest GPU Cards. Some similar awareness of MB problems when you learn of them would be greatly appreciated. I know that there are others explaining these types of things but you are the better "explainer". Thanks
A note on the M.2 USB adapter as someone that owns one. It's not hotswap. Also be aware that there is no cooling so drives will throttle under sustained loads like for example and entire drive clone.
Judging by prices around here, SSDs have increased a bit in cost over the last month or two.
Was a report recently speaking about such as well.
...... alternatively they're just keeping prices about the same, in order to make Black Friday week prices look good.
For putting m.2 NVME drives in an external case, it's best to use one that has onboard cache - some budget ssd's use the pc's memory as cache, but in an external nvme to usb adapter it can't do that so the drive slows down a lot. I wonder if it's still faster than the 10 GB/s of the USB though...
While every PC component has merit, I'd agree the motherboard is the glue that binds the whole system together, deserving of the "favorite" title. It was my instant choice.
Re Music, my own tastes (instrumental, synthesiser) were set at the age of 4. 53 years on, my tastes have not changed.
TLDR:
It was the theme tune to Dr Who, with the kaleidoscope visual (circa 1971) that first caught my ear. As did "Sleepy Shores", a UK TV theme tune by Johnny Pearson that I heard only a few times, but retained and played by ear, many years later.
Then there was "Popcorn" by Hot Butter in 1972, and "Autobahn" by Kraftwerk from 1973/4. I was 7 by then... Space and "Magic Fly" came along in 1977, but then it was very thin pickings before UA-cam took off. Vangelis, Jean Michel Jarre, and even Mike Oldfield (Tubular Bells) didn't quite hit the spot. Tried hard, but were more gimmick rather than music. I'd admit Vangelis probably got closest - Heaven and Hell part 3, aka the theme tune from Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" TV series, taught me that I'd be finding most of my favourite music in TV and Movie soundtracks for the next three decades.
I have come to realise that "melody" trumps everything. Rhythm and "predictability". Which might seem boring, but when you try to listen to music by Tangerine Dream (and more recently, Sundial Aeon) you start to realise some creators operate on so many levels of complexity, it feels impossible to analyse everything that's going on, but it just "feels right".
Contrasted with today's shouty/talky/rappy crap (it all forces me to turn off the radio, it's that unlistenable - do you imagine ANY of today's "hits" will be played even 5 years from now?)
UA-cam has allowed a much broader sampling of talented musicians, most of whom would never get airtime on any radio station.
Every now and then I find a true pearl, like "Colors of Emotion" by David Delirium. ua-cam.com/video/tUkUKTyWu-M/v-deo.html
Or this cover of Abba's "Arrival": ua-cam.com/video/8bi0MTjVuTI/v-deo.html
Or a one-hit-wonder by Dario G called "Sunchyme" ua-cam.com/video/yFKhgF_vkgs/v-deo.html
One feature of instrumental music is that, despite the absence of lyrics, it generates an image in the mind's eye. I like that my own mind creates my own story, inspired and led by the music, without having a story rammed down my throat by lyrics that, more often than not, simply do not fit the mood of the music at all.
I also agree that artists who can share a message, finding rhyming words that fit the music beat and especially mood, is a special talent that not many have.
Too many bright young things gyrating wildly, singing about their broken heart with a huge grin on their face, to the most upbeat tempo, is so broken I can't listen to it. Take the words away (karaoke) and you've got a brilliant tune. But it's forever spoiled by a mismatched message.
If I do like a song with lyrics, it is almost always a "one-hit wonder".
With just one exception: Mango Groove.
While the world was condemning South Africa for Apartheid, this multi-racial group was topping charts with protest songs that shared truth in an inoffensive way. They were never censored or banned. Sometimes they made a banal pop hit ("Dance sum more", "Move Up") but they also made an equally big hit song ("Hellfire") about mixed race relationships (illegal in that country at that time), and that was an eye opener. ("There's a road block, late at night, and the military man.... can see that we're together, but he doesn't understand.... Your love... burns me like a hellfire.")
ua-cam.com/video/Id2DUz_7y2w/v-deo.html
Tender ballads ("Island Boy", "Moments Away", "Southern Sky" - the corniest cliches rehashed, but this is where the music matches the sentiment, making it easy to listen to ua-cam.com/video/BUDBWbshBG8/v-deo.html ) share album space with deep and dark "unspeakable" events:
"Another Country" - trying to be positive about "the new SA", acknowledging that healing the past is likely impossible... This pulls no punches. First sung in 1993, it could apply to Ukraine/Russia, and now Israel/Palestine. And ALL the others. If only the world could take heed. ua-cam.com/video/TknvvcWciBc/v-deo.html
"Too many tears" - the impossibility of reconciliation "Too many tears to cry, too many reasons why, too many fears to die..." simple, powerful, TRUE. ua-cam.com/video/4IEceGWHri0/v-deo.html
"Sometimes" - coping (or not) with personal loss and trauma, ua-cam.com/video/21TPnaLfhEg/v-deo.html
"Taken for a moment" - their response to the assassination of an activist. Wow, the world could learn from their diplomacy. ua-cam.com/video/-hPDCXOR5fQ/v-deo.html
And this is all chart topping pop music? Methinks South Africa was greatly misunderstood.
35 years on, their music remains timeless. It could rub shoulders with (and still beat) the best of what the world has to offer today. It has genuine authenticity. And you can hear it. Never mind that they showcased the penny whistle long before Eurovision made it hip and trendy!
"We are Waiting" is perhaps the universal global anthem applicable to any and all oppressed group(s). ua-cam.com/video/TNQzkROEOTA/v-deo.html
I literally just bought that SSK one less than a week ago. Seems to work pretty well. Windows was a little weird and I had to manually go give it a drive letter in disk management. After that it seemed to work perfectly.
Good call on the motherboard being the one you would focus on. Curious: I think my second choice would be power supplies. What would your second choice be?
A very thorough and stimulating probe.
Tumescence intensified
Always a good time listening to you.
Such a great guy
19:03 Thank you for your answer, which I did not expect, but also found fascinating! And thank you all the content thus far, and definitely enjoyed the contractor work vlogs too, and think that all came out lovely!
What brought this to mind was the PowerVia with intel when that first came out, but do you think we’ll reach a limit soon enough with (PC related) hardware advances, or do you think innovation will triumph and we’ll keep advancing?
Merry (almost) Christmas... Nice to get presents early... 👍😎🎄
Thanks for taking my question. As always, a lovely answer and I agree completely. I think you have that talent you're describing by the end - 100%, just in the way you deal with your art; your videos!
Grunge is a huge deal to me. If I could make a recommendation for an album by a Danish band, I'd say have a listen to Kashmir, with their Travelogue album. It's awesome!
And also, your videos are never, ever too long or detail. Still platonically in love with all that you do 😊
Any good suggestions with a 12v set up for rv life
Even here in Australia, where we usually get screwed over on PC part pricing, the cheapest M.2 2280 SSDs are $0.06 AUD/GB.
I recently got a similar SSK enclosure, but not the same one. Over half of my NVME drives don't work correctly with it on the SBC (Vision Five 2) I bought it for. I'm not sure if it's a driver or power issue. One of the worst drives that "worked" was an Intel Optane 118GB. It managed a blazing 22 kB/s hdparm read test. While one of the drives that worked best (Mushkin Helix-L) actually saw about 10% faster sequential reads than on the native PCI-e 2.0 x1 slot. All drives that did work were quite a bit slower in I/O tests with the USB overhead which made sense. It's fine for copying some files but you wouldn't want to work with it full time.
Hello Paul. Love the content. Every video is a new smile for me. Is there a chance of bringing back Awesome Hardware back? I do miss it from time to time.
Yea Paul, really like the chill vibe on your channel. I have been a long time viewer. Glad you moved to a more family centric location!!! Cheers.
Question. If you want to OC a computer setup, which components do you look at to OC first M/B, GPU, CPU, RAM etc? Or does it depend on your components?
For example I am running a 5800x3D, on a X470 Asus Crosshair VII, with a RX6800XT and 32GB 3600 MHz (Cas 18 could be better) memory.
I wanted to update The M/B (X570), but think I might just save for a future gen M/B(AM5), so I want to mildly update my rig to a decent performance. I know there is potential with the M/B, but don't want to go stupid on it.
I am old enough to remember when it was big news when storage broke the $1/ Megabyte barrier. At $.01/Gigabyte this is 100,000 cheaper even with inflation!
I've got one of those USB WiFi adapters plugged into my MiSTer. Works well!
G'day Paul ol son...... ive been around pc's since the the first AMD 1gig Athlon in early 2000😊. But im not familiar with all the major items on current boards(i like AMD based systems)🤔. could you do a vid on major an integral parts of the typical board, like VRM's what they do and how to get best use out of them, main chips on a board, all additional extra pin connectors for expansion. You know 🤔 a real up to date explantion on a motherboards. i bet theres a lot of people out there wanting to know the real ins and outs of their Pc's. We have so much content on GPU's, storage, programs, cases Etc but not seen a real down to earth layout🤨 for new an old PC builders out there. And i think with your talant(been watching since 2014) and your way of talking an explaining is so simple to understand. Big Cheers From 49yr ol M8 Downunder🙃
Thanks for being you (and awesome)! How come everyone talks about BIOS updates, but nobody talks about ME updates along with them?
I was wondering if you knew about those SP nVME's. Glad to see I'm not the only person who found out about them!
I have that SSK enclosure and it has problems with bandwidth and connectivity. I don't recommend it. It does have 10Gbps speeds but for some reason, it runs at 5Gbps on my USB-C port, however, if I plug in an SSK usb hub with 10Gbps through the same exact port, it works at 10Gbps.
I bought that same nvme drive a few months ago for 160 to replace my sata 4tb ssd because I was tired of dealing with sata cables in a itx build. It's a good drive for the money.
4TB gen3 for $160 or gen4 at $170. Its a good thing. 😮
Hi Paul, question that maybe your or one of your followers might have a good answer for. I am going to be upgrading my 500 GB os drive with a 2 TB m.2. I already have a second drive that is 2 TB, but trying to decide if I should use the whole 2TB for the OS partition or maybe only 1 TB and start moving data to either the second partition or to the 2nd drive.
Any recommendations for things to think about when considering this? Thinking I should just do 2 TB full partition and then put the things I want to have the fastest access to on that partition, like say games or the development related software when I want fast builds. I suppose even having 2 1 TB partitions is about the same and allows me to more easily see what is data and what is not. Heck, even thinking of just keeping a 500 TB partition and moving all the data to the 1.5 TB partition if I do it that way. Too many choices! LOL
That WD enterprise drive is a steal holy shit. I've been looking for a sufficiently large drive to just back up everything I have that can't just be redownloaded to and leaving it at my parents house or something. I'm ordering one.
The military grade WD servers ?
I think the principal of backup is that if it's on one drive, it's not backed up. It's better if it's on your PC, and one external drive obviously but everything fails sooner or later. Depends how important the data really is of course. There's a big difference between backing up the Steam drive and photos of your child growing through the years. Edit: My assumption is since Paul mentioned a NAS of somekind IIRC he's got a multi-stage/solution backup. This comment was more in case someone goes and gets a massive HDD, puts everything on it, and then is a sad panda three years from now if it fails because that was their only copy of cherished data and they thought it was 100% reliable.
@@jonevansauthor I have an unraid server with redundancy. My goal with this drive is to put a second copy of everything I have that is important on it and leave it at my parents house so it's an off-site backup in case something happens locally. It's not going to be the only location files are stored it's going to be in addition to what I have now.
Storage is dirt cheap lately. We’ve got older systems at work we’ve been getting rid of and some set up for a college to use temporarily. We realized we could get 500gb sata ssd drives for about 20 bucks each. Great way to speed up old systems. Might consider tossing chrome os on one to play with.
The Aoko works great. I have had mine for months. Perfect for file transfer to a new computer. It does have enough juice for 2.5 drives
Call me crazy, but I’ve got a really odd question. I know there’s lots of talk about push or pull be fairly equivalent on an aio radiator, and that there could be some benefit to a push and pull configuration. But, what about a mix of both… In other words, a 360 rad with three fans, but two are on one side of the radiator (push), and the third is in the adjacent space, but set up on the opposite side (pull). Would this still translate to roughly the same airflow and cooling as all three fans on the same side? And yes, this is part hypothetical and part reasons!
Edit, and actually even further curiosity there… What if the bottom and middle fans were push, and the top fan was also push, but on the opposite side of the radiator… So same set up like before, but now, the one fan’s flow reversed, so air is going the opposite direction of the other two. And for this, let’s pretend open air/bench set up, so we’re not talking flow through the case.
Hey Paul, just out of curiosity what's your opinion on Win11 Bitlocker feature robbing SSD performance up to 45%. I have been seeing this issue popping up in the tech news some in the last few weeks. Apparently this feature is enabled by default in Win11, however it's not really needed because most SSD's offer encryption at the hardware level.
What I like about storage is once you set it you forget it, so I'm not surprised their prices are going down.
Thanks for the news.
I got burn by UD90 SSDs. Bough 4 of 2TB from 2 different order at Newegg. 3 of them 2048GB, 1 is 2034GB. (May not be the exect number but you get the point). So I cannot use it in my TrueNAS for RAID since the size are different... I dont want to buy another one since the smaller size seem to be a newer revision. But come on, at lease change the model name or keep the same provisend space if they suppose to be identical model.
Western Digital SN570 1TB = $47. Best deal in storage right now. It uses Kioxia flash, and may not have DRAM, but comes with Western Digital's in-house DRAMless controller. It may only be Gen3 NVMe, but honestly, not many people need more than 3500MB/s reads.
My first 1 terabyte anything was over $500. That was a huge external hard drive in the late 90s. Just today I ordered a 1 terabyte nvme for my son's build and it was $39 lol. It's crazy.
I assume you meant gigabyte, as USD 500 would have bought a 1 GB drive in the early 90s. Back then, you would have needed an array of 250 4 GB drives to get to 1 TB, for a lot more money. Hitachi released the first 1TB HDD in 2007.
damn, both are/where super cheap for the moment.
I remember having tapes and floppies, and eventually a hdd with something like 20gb which back then was insanely much, actualy was a pc from the R&D person of the company/lab who back then designed the technology behind mass producing computers which everyone now uses, but back then that was completely new with al kinds of problems, even microscopic lobsters have been a problem there since they would start to apear in the cyanide baths wich where used for plating the chip and board terminals and such, and having to discover why things didn't work or had very low yield rate only to discover using microsope high speed cameras that the problem was actually humidity in the air and dust in the air and mashines.
times sure change a lot when looking at electronics.
When using spinning rust drives over 4TB in a NAS, there is a real risk of losing two drives during a drive failure and rebuild event. ALWAYS use RAID6 when using drives over 4TB as there is a real possibility of losing a second drive during the stress of a rebuild.
enjoyable probIng as always
Paul such a trooper
13:01 "[X] Everybody liked that" in chat for Reuben's coffee cups!
Enterprise drives are also *louder* and almost-invariably are "OEM pulls"; meaning they came with a server or appliance. They are resold with, at best a "trust me, bro" warranty.
Dang Paul! Can't even see the little bright spot in the center that used to be the light mode Probing Pauls! Been probed more than any other man I know.
I'd be interested in knowing how that SSK M.2 enclosure performs. I recently bought a couple of USB 3.2 Gen 2 solid state thumb drives made by SSK that are VERY impressive. They are very well built all metal construction, have both USB type A and C connectors, and are FAST. When plugged into a USB 3.2 Gen 2 port on my motherboard I can make a Windows installation drive with Rufus in about 10 to 15 seconds, yes SECONDS. That same drive can then install Windows to a bare PCI-E 4.0 M.2 SSD in minutes, usually under 5 and always under 10 minutes. Even plugged into a USB 3.0 or 3.1 port it is still impressive. It's model SD301 and comes in 128GB, 256GB and 512GB versions.
I still think that all if the hi power GPUs should just go to large hi amp 2 pin connectors like an XT90 or something. If it's all 12V, an XT90 is rated for 90A DC and at 12V DC, that is almost 1100W. Room to grow for them even. Then they can break out the traces as needed, as they do anyway.
Your 'Probing' is the only one I actually look forward to, Paul. Keep them coming, but please, be gentile...
There's some really great ska coming out these days! Great Q&A.
with the 12VHPWR it is a strange situation:
It wasn't that long ago when AMD released the R9 295x2 ... that card used the same 8Pin PCIe power connector as most cards today aaaaand it had a problem with melting connectors. Turns out back then it was the same problem as 12VHPWER had - a few people being too stupid to fully plug in the connector. (just with the difference that AMD broke the specifications)
The T-FORCE CARDEA Z44Q 4tb is also 4.0 and $160, I just wish it had the 3600tb rating like their 2tb Z440 drives, that is what I am using as my main game drive atm
I hope you speed test those enclosures.
FYI, those WD Enterprise HDDs are NOT for home use. There are EXTREMELY loud and make grinding noises every 20-40 minutes due to wear leveling in firmware.
There's a reason they're so cheap and used. People keep returning them and getting new ones that do the same thing.
Bought 2 of those SP 4TB NVME's also, the first one I bought was 158 and the second was 170 so it's shooting up fast. If you're wanting to fill your PC with SSD storage the time to buy is now, I've seen nothing but SSD's shooting up in price on a day to day basis so those rumors are definitely true
Love the channel Paul. Another Excellent one! Hey on music... artists that bring heart and story into the music. I have been blasting Ren, found him about 6 months ago. Story heart emotion and some fun.
I use the latest TP-Link USB nano WiFi adapters in my builds. Windows 10 sees them right away and driver updates are available on the TP-Link website.
So bummed I missed another meet and greet. Been waiting since the last one before the pandemic and I missed this last one too.
Got to agree with the music question. I still find new stuff, but in the same genres as I liked back then (late 90s, early 2000s).
Mechanical drives in an external enclosure are often cheaper than the drives just by themselves. But you need to figure out what drive is in the enclosure and look for CMR drives instead of SMR drives.
I just use a toolless external M.2 enclosure as a docking station.
And also manufacturers have some cost-saving models where the external drive has a controller board with only USB, no SATA! So you pop open the case and still have a USB-only HD.
I honestly thought the 'toasters' could take multiple drive types, even when I bought my 3.5 inch one it took those and 2.5 ones, and I sort of assumed they'd have ones that take three or four types now. Only useful if you want to rapidly swap out drives obviously - for irregular use what fits in a drawer also works and saves space. A toolless enclosure seems like a good solution for that.
You should do a truenas build! You already have all this bits!
Yay! I need to buy some large NVMe drives at work!
The usb wifi/bluetooth adapter I have it, originally planned it for my kid, but never got to it. Instead my wife ended up needing it today. Didn't need to install drives on win11, but we'll see how it goes.
So for the 4090, if you want to do about 6 things, and condtantly check it, youll be fine, its not an issue anymore. Just 6 simple steps, with daily checkins on it, itll be fine. Plus all these companies have grest warranties and its definitely not "user error" youll have no issues with them at all if something does happen
Paul, do you use a NAS? From your brief descriptions of your storage process, it sounds like you just use an assortment of external drives. Why not something like a Synology?
They need to releases bigger sizes than 8TB for the m.2 drives and make them affordable (a 8TB M.2 drive goes for about $700 which is insane). That is why I use a 16TB HDD @ 7200RPM as a storage drive (I have a 1TB M.2 drive as the boot drive).
I mean 2TB for under $150 for a full speed Gen 4 drive is kinda crazy!
@@profosist I’m more concerned about the larger capacities.
@@wingman-1977 well unlike a 2.5in drive theres a limit to how many chips you can put on a M.2, usually 4 (2 top, 2 bottom)
Used to be that 2TB was the cap to have single sided. Samsung recently raised that to 4TB. I think I have also seen some brands with slower drives put 4 on the top.
Have you seen the dual actuator 20TB+ HDDs though?
Paul sure can take a probe like a champ.
I have had a sata ssd which turned out to use extreme amounts of power, got it for in a server, they pretended to be quite energy efficient, but the ssd alone used around 3 times as much power on idle than my entire server under load. that ssd used around 4w to 6w when idling and under light load.
there should be a good easy way to directly connect 2 computers for example using a 2 way usb cable and then directly transfer files, or perhaps ethernet or internet might also be nice even though that kind of exists, but a more easy/doable way for general computers, since I know this can easily be done on linux systems but it requires all computers to have a custom config, and on windows it just straight up won't work even with dedicated software.
i have a motherboard at the moment where the speaker plug on the back kills speakers but the plug that connects the headphone jack does does not do that
Hey Paul, do you script your videos, or you really are so smooth 🤔?
G'day Paul - perhaps a strange question for you... suppose you wanted to jack your PC to the teeth with storage (because reasons), how would you do this? I have seen PCIe connectors that go out to multiple SATA ports so you can connect multiple HDDs directly to your PC. There is of course NAS solutions - but that is somewhat external... and via network. Apart from filling in every M.2 slot and all SATA ports - what options exist?
Paul, what software do you use for video editing? What are your thoughts about Davinci Resolve?
Xitter, Paul? Come to Mastodon. All the cool kids are doing it!
Now that you're back in the garage, new Arctic Panther build coming? Miss it in the background.
This might be PEBKAC on my part, but be weary of the USB cable on that SSK enclosure. My ones cable is pretty much screwed after a few months.
Would it be of benefit to upgrade a 5800X3D from 16GB Ram to 32GB Ram? How important are ram timings with the 5800x3D? Would looser timings be better than tighter ones?
I remember a time, 30 years ago, when hard drive storage prices dropped to $1.00 per megabyte. It was an amazing price for the time. Damn, I'm old.
You should be proud imho, I recently found a Tandy 3 in my recently passed father in laws hardware stash and it made me realize how much I’ve missed out on
The Silicon Power 4TB Nvme is up to 174.97, the Crucial is at 166.47 but its slower speed. 3500MB/s vs 5000MB/s. 😎
I bought a couple of 1tb nvme just for the hell of it because they were cheap and well known makes too.
Probably get used sometime lol but by that time I bet prices will have dropped more and capacities likely doubled.
Dearest Paul,
I was one of the many fools who built an all AMD, all ROG build with a 7950x (not 3D) and an ASUS x670e A-Gaming. I watched and followed advice intently as I was advised to update the BIOS, which I did, then learn shortly after, that my warranty would be voided. I watched as you and other respected UA-camrs were outraged. What I missed is a final follow up to this mess. My question is, Is my computer safe? And what should I do to ensure that it doesnt melt? I know this is an old topic, but I dont know where I stand on this build (I built it for my wife and you can imagine the backlash I'd get if it suddenly starts smoking). Thanks in advance!
Hre in the Netherlands shit stays expensive, always, memory not so much, but SSDs, HDs, GPUs CPUs, they don't drop anythign near the drops in the US. :(
For instance;
6Tb HD €140-€280.
14Tb HD €240-€400.
Has AM4 become obsolete due to AM5 cpus and DDR5 prices getting lower. Is the performance difference worth the extra cash by now?
Reuben is a real one with the mugs lol
I’ve spent ~£300 this past month in SSDs lol. 2x2TBs gen4 (one 2TB WD for the steam deck, the other Kingston Renegade w/ dram) and a 1TB Silicon Power gen3 with dram. And a cheap 250GB Faxiang for an old MacBook.
I’m obsessed with Nvmes for some reason lol
Now I wanna do a NAS with 2TB WD Red nvmes lol. The price has to drop some more though 😂
Edit: 2:25 lol you got the same SP ssd I did. Only mine is a 2TB, not 4TB. And mine is the gen3 version but almost the same speeds.
Bought a 4tb crucial nvme not long ago. And I thought that it'd run out quick nope it didn't lol. I have existing 4tb x2 hdd but man having 4tb nvme is nice.
My main pc is on 2 x 2tb nvme and the 4tb one.