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  • An educational video in support of the Bass Sax, a very versatile instrument that can be used in any genre of music. Includes examples of its use, descriptions of its timbre, and tips on scoring for it.
    Over 500 subscribers! Thank you everyone for your likes, comments, and support.
    Audio clips for reference with timestamps:
    2:40 Adrian Rollini & His Orchestra: Bill (Showboat) • Adrian Rollini - "Bill...
    3:30 Steve Cohen: Sinfonia for Sax Choir • Sinfonia for Saxophone...
    3:38 The Moanin' Frogs: In The Mood • In The Mood - Sax Sextet
    4:00 Helge Sunde/Ensemble Denada: Knegg (Dark Horse) • Knegg (Dark Horse)
    6:09 Listen to my Symphony 1 for Band here: • Daniel Basford - Symph...
    7:19 Listen to my cantata Night Journey here: • Daniel Basford - Night...
    Clips from the following are used under Fair Use/Fair Dealing: The Transformers (G1); Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels; Top Gear; Family Guy. Their use in this video is transformative, used in an educational video, and is not detrimental to the market.
    Further reading:
    Jay C. Easton: Writing for Saxophone - www.baxtermusic...
    R McFarland: The Saxophone - Its Development & Use in the Orchestra digital.librar...
    #basssax #saxophone #composer

КОМЕНТАРІ • 216

  • @marvelboy74
    @marvelboy74 3 роки тому +297

    As a Bari primary - I approve of brining the Bass back to give the Bari something different to do.

    • @robertglogowski777
      @robertglogowski777 2 роки тому +18

      I agree wholeheartedly as a bari player as well!

    • @milkman9314
      @milkman9314 2 роки тому +12

      Haha I used to play bass sax in marching band. It was kind of difficult because I'd have to rewrite bari or tuba parts or play with the bass clarinets

    • @Foulfootwear
      @Foulfootwear 2 роки тому +9

      I dont know who your daddy is, but these instruments are much too expensive to be putting in brine like some common lettuce

    • @Dueruemtarget
      @Dueruemtarget 2 роки тому +10

      @@Foulfootwear Well, if you only look for modern professional bass sax then you're right. But there are cheaper ones like vintage Conn basses or modern amateur models like the Thomann TBB-150. Of course the latter one especially you have to check the processing quality. But adding bass sax to create a richer sound is not only for professional ensembles and orchestra, I personally think that this video is also addressed to student ensemble. And for that case you don't need a very expensive bass sax. The most important thing is, that this instrument is playable.

    • @organist1982
      @organist1982 Рік тому +1

      @@Dueruemtarget "Foulfootwear" was just making a joke about the fact that marvelboy74 mistyped "bringing" as "brining"!

  • @MamaSymphonia
    @MamaSymphonia 3 роки тому +4

    I was JUST thinking I wanted to write for a diversified sax quintet (SATBBass) but there's just not a lot of that in the repertoire. Most quintets slot in a 2nd alto or tenor, annoyingly. But I get it, the bass is rarer and way more expensive so writing for it limits your access to performers somewhat. Anyway, this video's timing couldn't be better!

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 Рік тому

      For a while I've been thinking of writing and arranging for a sax sextet, or saxtet in which there is 1 each of sopranino, soprano, alto, tenor, bari & bass. I think it'll make a very unique yet versatile sax ensemble!

  • @evanbonannomusic
    @evanbonannomusic 3 роки тому +118

    Bass Sax is so underated I wish it was more common

    • @benjammin498
      @benjammin498 2 роки тому +15

      I wish it was more affordable

    • @evanbonannomusic
      @evanbonannomusic 2 роки тому +14

      @@benjammin498 I wish all instruments were more affordable lmao

    • @johnbull6909
      @johnbull6909 2 роки тому +7

      @@evanbonannomusic I wish they were lighter and easier to pack around.

    • @evanbonannomusic
      @evanbonannomusic 2 роки тому +5

      @@johnbull6909 yeah the same goes for a lot of bigger lower instruments unfortunately

    • @sybil-roxanneclemons7285
      @sybil-roxanneclemons7285 Рік тому +1

      Absolutely

  • @saxmusicmail
    @saxmusicmail 2 роки тому +60

    As a saxophonist (who plays all from 'nino to bass) and composer/arranger of a number of sax quintet and sextet pieces, I agree with all you said. Bass frees up the baritone from grunting around on its bottom end and able to use its beautiful upper register. And at the same time this puts bass sax up into its midrange where the tone is much more relaxed than the baritones bottom end. And bass has a beautiful singing mid to upper range. I think the success of bass sax in the 1920's, where it was usually placed in the rhythm section, back by the drums, piano, etc, was that its reedier tone helped it to be heard on the Victrola, early radios. The listener actually heard the bass line through the upper harmonics, even with the true fundamental missing. By the mid to late 1940's there were better mics, better speakers on radios and record players, and tuba and string bass were no longer "lost in the mix". This video is an excellent treatise on use of bass sax!

  • @felipemoraes3101
    @felipemoraes3101 2 роки тому +45

    I played the alto sax for 5 years. Baritone for 5 years and now I am playing the Bass sax for 10 years. Best Sax ever

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +12

      That’s great. I’ve always been a fan of lower saxes.

    • @felipemoraes3101
      @felipemoraes3101 2 роки тому +7

      @@danthefugueguy The sound is amazing

    • @sybil-roxanneclemons7285
      @sybil-roxanneclemons7285 Рік тому +1

      Bravo

    • @sybil-roxanneclemons7285
      @sybil-roxanneclemons7285 Рік тому +2

      ​@@danthefugueguy I am only 5-3 and the lowest I can go is the Baritone. I know the fingering of the Bass and the contrabass. Just too big for me. Jazzman Clare Fischer played Bass, Contrabass, and Baritone saxophone

  • @sebastianreyes8025
    @sebastianreyes8025 2 роки тому +57

    as a former bari player, i can confirm that the higher range of the instrument can be underapreciated, it can sound close to a french horn or a cello if you play it right.

  • @StephenKing-wb2ve
    @StephenKing-wb2ve Рік тому +6

    As a multi-decade saxophone player, I can assure you: A well trained saxophonist can play any kind of saxophone. So it's not a problem that you can't find any "bass saxophone player". Get a random saxophonist, borrow a bass saxophone, and your premiere will be perfect.

  • @paulcohen2556
    @paulcohen2556 2 роки тому +31

    Outstanding video that is both accurate and wonderfully sympathetic!. Karl Husa is another notable composer who has used the bass sax in his wind ensemble works. I own five bass saxes, and they are used in my saxophone ensembles, as well as the wind ensembles at my schools. A favorite solo work is Brian Israel's Double Concerto for sopranino and bass saxes and winds. I've also arranged some Grainger works for SATBBs which sound full and robust. Bass sax prices vary, but are declining. One can purchase an excellent, well regulated new Asian bass for around $6500 these days!

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +3

      Is that the Sakkusu bass (unsure if I've spelt that correctly)? For a bass sax, it's not unreasonably priced in the UK: about £5000ish.

  • @LiqqaRoni-cx3tx
    @LiqqaRoni-cx3tx Рік тому +3

    I always wanted to employ bass saxes for marching band. Let's face it, baris aren't really a bass instrument. Most of the time they play the tuba part but up an octave. Bass not only has the range to compete with tubas but it also has the projection and the punch to be heard. Not to mention Tubas require a lot of air and pressure to make the bottom notes speak where as saxophones' low notes can be sustained and articulated better.

  • @lucpraslan
    @lucpraslan 2 роки тому +25

    I love how passionate you are about the bass saxophone. With love from a contrabassoonist 🎵👍🏼👍🏼

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +5

      From one former contrabassoonist to another, thanks for your comment!

    • @Saxman_sam
      @Saxman_sam 2 роки тому +2

      Eyo contrabassoon party, just wondering, for the large bass sax solo in your band piece, I feel like contrabassoon could have been good too

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +2

      @@Saxman_sam Yes, if I didn't score for bass sax, contrabassoon would work. I wanted to use the contra as an alternating colour with contrabass clarinet in the sustained pedal tones instead as I like the change in timbre going from one to the other, at least at this point in the piece. So, bass sax ended up getting the tune for this moment!

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 10 місяців тому +1

      @@danthefugueguy A bass sax with a(proper-sized) Low A bell could've pulled off that (in)famous contrabassoon solo in Strauss's opera Salome almost just as well. And a bass sax+contrabassoon unison might actually work rather well!

  • @benclaps
    @benclaps 3 роки тому +19

    I’ve been adding bass saxophones in my jazz arrangements ever since I tried including one a few months back. It changed the world for me when writing saxophone parts

  • @davidtcheng
    @davidtcheng Рік тому +9

    Just did a full gig with Bass Sax (recreating The Last Waltz Performance). The composer originally chose bari over bass in his arrangements, but after my bari sax was damaged, I did the final performance on Bass Sax. The rest of the horn section thought it sounded like the bari, but louder. Louder is good! :)

    • @eugeniocollinassi.1548
      @eugeniocollinassi.1548 6 місяців тому

      Wow, must have been great fun!
      Those horn arrangements by Toussaint were wonderful, such a joy to hear that concert over and over!
      Ophelia, Old Crow medicine show and Night they drove ole dixie down are probably of my favourites

  • @KeyLeaves
    @KeyLeaves 3 роки тому +15

    Thank you for being a champion of sax in orchestral work!

  • @skyparrot1999
    @skyparrot1999 Рік тому +5

    Playing Bass Saxophone in a wind ensemble is one of the rare treasures of being a low Saxophone specialist.

  • @Joeybsmooth
    @Joeybsmooth Рік тому +3

    How can I put this nicely. I have heard the bass saxophone before and the people playing were not that good at it. So I have had a negative view point of the instrument. However recently I have had the chance to hear some better players and my mind has changed on it. Heck this video showed how well Bass Saxes can sound. As a Bari player I went from turning my nose up at it to being jealous (lol)

  • @amj.composer
    @amj.composer 3 роки тому +6

    6:11 This was REALLY pretty, seriously. Bravo

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  3 роки тому +4

      Thank you. Please check out the whole symphony (playlist on YT) - enjoy!

  • @ethancollins4593
    @ethancollins4593 5 місяців тому +2

    Are you trying to tempt me into getting myself a bass saxophone?
    Cuz its working.

  • @Zsaxman60
    @Zsaxman60 Рік тому +2

    I played bass sax when I was a member of the California Air National Guard Band. Too bad it is so expensive. That is probably the main reason you don’t see it more often.

  • @andyk6767
    @andyk6767 3 місяці тому +2

    Yes, more Bass Saxophone! More Soprano Saxophone, as well!

  • @evilkermit8104
    @evilkermit8104 10 місяців тому +2

    I really need a bass sax. I play tenor right now and bass both sounds and looks really cool.

  • @JackieMatthews610318
    @JackieMatthews610318 2 роки тому +2

    Though, slight too expensive for Japanese musicians today.

  • @MichealMJF
    @MichealMJF 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome video!. As a student of the late great Joseph Viola co-founder of Berklee College I can really appreciate the thought & sensitivity that went into this presentation. The whole time I was at Berklee I never saw a bass sax. The only one I ever saw was on an exchange concert in high school, unfortunately when I was there the instrument was in disrepair and I couldn't try it out!. Yes more low saxes. I have a slightly off topic inquiry. I have seen several UA-cam videos with what they're calling a contrabass sax, some really are saxes but others are not. The bore does not taper out enough to call it a saxophone. Being a full octave below the baritone the bell should be twice the diameter of a baritone bell. These rogue instruments are not saxophones so what are they? They seem more practical being smaller and easier to transport and they appear to blend well with saxophones. If anyone knows what those instruments are called please let me know. Thanx...

  • @greysonavary624
    @greysonavary624 3 роки тому +3

    What’s next🤨bass oboe? Contrabass clarinet? Contrabone? Eb trumpet? Bass or alto flute?

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  3 роки тому +3

      Definitely bass oboe and bass flute. Got a few more planned!

  • @TheMoaninFrogs
    @TheMoaninFrogs 3 роки тому +7

    This is great, thanks for including us!

  • @rogercawkwell5413
    @rogercawkwell5413 3 роки тому +7

    As the musical director of the London Saxophone Choir for ten years, it was a sad day any time we had to do a gig without a bass.

  • @JamesWalls-b5b
    @JamesWalls-b5b Рік тому +1

    Most of the good ones only go up to Eb3. By good ones I of course mean the Conn and Buescher horns made from 1924 until WWII, the golden age of bass sax. Modern bass saxophones don't sound like bass saxophones, they sound like baris.

  • @dj9299
    @dj9299 2 роки тому +3

    I'd say Micheal Wilbur from Moon Hooch is one of the most influential modern bass sax players

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 11 місяців тому +2

    I am in the Contrabass camp. 😇

  • @JohnMansfield-l3i
    @JohnMansfield-l3i Рік тому +1

    In Italian wind bands the bass and soprano saxes are part of the normal instrumentation..Just go on youtube and see videos of them marching with bass saxes.

  • @ThreeMoonsArc
    @ThreeMoonsArc 8 місяців тому +1

    I might try to ask my band director if she has any bass saxes that I can use because I'm on tenor and I think it would be really fun to play on an instrument that low.

  • @iikpsyt4619
    @iikpsyt4619 9 місяців тому +1

    I would love to play bass sax, but my school doesn’t own one. We own 4 baritone saxophones though.

  • @richardbishop1916
    @richardbishop1916 11 місяців тому +1

    very important video ...thanks ...and the funny pics ....are very very cool

  • @NeilABliss
    @NeilABliss 3 роки тому +8

    Fully agree that instruments such as Bass Sax , Alto Clarinet, Contrabass Clarinet etc... are really noticed as missing...once you have heard them.
    Bass Sax as with many of the larger rare instruments are seeing something of a renaissance due to more affordable instruments.

    • @NeilABliss
      @NeilABliss 3 роки тому +1

      Would love to see similar video's on the rare brass instruments.
      Descant Horn, Wagner Tuben, Contrabass Trombone, Cimbasso ....Sub Contra tuba.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  3 роки тому +3

      Contrabass trombone is one of my favourite instruments. Only scored for it twice but it's such a great asset.
      Cimbasso should definitely get more love. Really expressive.

  • @walterkersting9922
    @walterkersting9922 7 місяців тому +1

    Pretty sure it’s a bass saxophone on Willie Nelson’s watching the bubbles in my beer

  • @felixzanderling5395
    @felixzanderling5395 2 роки тому +5

    Me as a Bass Sax player: 🥲 I’m so proud of you. JUSE BASS SAX!!!!

  • @OMurchadha
    @OMurchadha Рік тому +3

    I've had mine for about two years, still had no occasion to play it in an ensemble. The ones coming out of China are getting better and better, and are really not much more or at all more expensive than a baritone (mine was $3300 factory direct). To bring it back you have to have them in schools, etc., and composers should be encouraged to write for it! Fair play to ya, Dan!

  • @gregoryschwarz2730
    @gregoryschwarz2730 Рік тому +1

    Still very popular in Philadelphia String Bands.

  • @sybil-roxanneclemons7285
    @sybil-roxanneclemons7285 Рік тому +1

    My Brothers in laws and my sweetie play bass and contrabass saxes

  • @bohdanjaneczek2625
    @bohdanjaneczek2625 2 роки тому +1

    Many people would like to play it, not many can afford it...

  • @Nath_an807
    @Nath_an807 10 місяців тому +3

    I am a young composer, and I think I am gonna start writing bass sax into my music! I however think a really underrated timbre is the soprano saxophone. I love how it sounds and writing for it!

    • @ajc94
      @ajc94 3 місяці тому

      One of my favourite bands, the Japanese rock band Barbee Boys, has lots of songs featuring soprano sax solos! I think they're quite unique as the sax player also sings

  • @sashakindel3600
    @sashakindel3600 2 роки тому +3

    I find the bass saxophone a little awkward in that it both is only a fourth lower than the baritone and also lacks the written low A extension the baritone has, so that it can only play a major third lower than the baritone. In pieces where I'm committed to extending the saxophone section on the low end (which I often am), I really want a bass *and* a contrabass. On the other hand, the idea that the bass is no longer that rare changes the equation a bit.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +4

      Yes ideally both a bass and contrabass would be used, particularly in a wind band. However, the cost is an issue certainly.
      Although the bass can only go a third lower than the baritone, the sound quality is sufficiently different to the bari and contrabass to justify its inclusion.
      It's a tricky situation for composers, granted!

  • @pcwinds
    @pcwinds 10 місяців тому +2

    Love this! Yes, more bass sax! I own a modern bass sax that plays up to written F#. Beautiful tone and easy tuning. It adds so much presence to the saxophone section and other woodwind instruments.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  10 місяців тому +1

      I like to think most people would support the sentiment "more bass sax".
      It's definitely the tone that I find very attractive about the instrument.

  • @davidlea430
    @davidlea430 Рік тому +3

    Played bass sax in jazz band in college. It was a blast. I think the sound would definitely work well in the wind ensemble setting

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  Рік тому +2

      It really adds an interesting colour in a jazz band. Doubling it with the bass trombone also makes for a powerful sound.

  • @RossLeavitt
    @RossLeavitt 6 місяців тому +1

    As a saxophonist, this was great. I would have liked to hear more of the examples to illustrate what you said about them. Even a 5-second clip of each of the scores you included in the video would have been really helpful.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, glad it was useful. Unfortunately I couldn't find any recordings of the Holbrooke works where it's confirmed that the full compliment of saxes were used. Holbrooke is a greatly underrated composer in general sadly.

  • @MegaBanne
    @MegaBanne 10 місяців тому +1

    It is very similar in timper to the contrabass guitar.

  • @spicytubaroll
    @spicytubaroll 7 місяців тому +2

    I truly do wish bass saxes (and other bass/contrabass woodwinds) can show up more in orchestral and band works. I understand these instruments are not very common and ridiculously expensive, but they still exist and many ensembles have them, waiting to be used. Bring them back, that way us tubas can have more bass to team up with!

  • @mixedstaples8030
    @mixedstaples8030 Рік тому +3

    A lot of early They Might Be Giants recordings feature their accordionist/singer on bass sax! You can see it in some early concert footage as well, but it vanished in the late 80s. He uses a LeBlanc Contrabass clarinet now on tour,which is also cool, but not quite as visually powerful

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 Рік тому

      A lot of musicians and fans will tell you that its only advantage is visual, and even then, only in certain situations. It looks disconcerting, because a saxophone isn't supposed to be so big. Even before you hear it, it's already out of place.
      TMBG surely only used it to add the atmosphere of a New York oddity. Once they became a music business sensation, it was a liability.

    • @mixedstaples8030
      @mixedstaples8030 Рік тому

      @RatPfink66 I mean nobody's ever accused tmbg of being theatrical!

  • @chev39rsh
    @chev39rsh 10 місяців тому +1

    I have been using a Conn Bass sax for years in our quartet and ask arrangers to add a bass sax part frequently. For certain tunes its voluminous big sound gives a better tone than the bari and even in its mid-range has a nicer color. I use both swapping between them because in some tunes I want the punch that the bari delivers. Certainly for Dixie and oompah music the bass sax is king.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes I agree that the bass works really well in a quartet.

  • @whistling_klutz
    @whistling_klutz 2 роки тому +3

    The experience that changed my mind was my first time hearing Rufford Park Poachers with the bass sax included.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +3

      I agree. Makes a huge difference. I played Lincolnshire Posy for the first time in 2009 with a bass in the band. Second time I played it there was no bass and it definitely lost something.

  • @bigmandrel
    @bigmandrel 2 роки тому +4

    Very nice presentation; and what little I heard of your "Night Journey" is absolutely gorgeous.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for your comment. You can find Night Journey in its entirety on UA-cam too. Enjoy!

  • @baronvonbeagle9787
    @baronvonbeagle9787 6 місяців тому +1

    Claude T Smith

  • @bruhspenning
    @bruhspenning 11 місяців тому +1

    the sarrusophone should be brought back! It is the woodier cousin of the bass saxophone.

  • @jpendleton4331
    @jpendleton4331 2 роки тому +1

    717th sub, good content

  • @spencerparker8406
    @spencerparker8406 2 роки тому +1

    “The dude of the wind band”

  • @timothytikker3834
    @timothytikker3834 Рік тому +2

    One of the only times I have heard a bass saxophone in the flesh was a performance of William Albright's "Valley of Fire" (1988) for saxophone quartet and organ. It was highly effective.

  • @fstover5208
    @fstover5208 2 роки тому +1

    I would compose a major work for bass sax but there aren't many players.

    • @jacobbass6437
      @jacobbass6437 Рік тому

      The problem is finding the instrument not the players. Any bari sax player worth their salt should be able to pick up the bass sax pretty easily. Having only played bari for 3 months into my undergrad, picked up bass with relative ease. Now I've become a fairly regular bass sax player pulling it out a couple times a year. The problem is, bass saxes worth playing like the Selmer Series II are like $30,000 to buy, so broke people like me have to borrow them from our school/a friend of a friend who has one.

  • @lesterwyoung
    @lesterwyoung Рік тому +1

    Very interesting.

  • @marylousmusic
    @marylousmusic Рік тому +1

    This is so cool!!

  • @amargou
    @amargou Рік тому +1

    great video

  • @voodooonevipersonstation663
    @voodooonevipersonstation663 2 роки тому +2

    Probably one of my favourite instruments, I really wish I could buy one. I have the money but it simply isn’t a wise purchase as most of the time I play pieces without a bass sax part.

  • @francoomarlopezlopez
    @francoomarlopezlopez 11 місяців тому +1

    If you listen to Clare Fischer albums like "Thesaurus", "Duality", or "A Family Affair", you can hear a great use of the bass sax! (along with some other rare woods)

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks - I'll look that up!

    • @francoomarlopezlopez
      @francoomarlopezlopez 11 місяців тому +1

      @@danthefugueguy awesome! A good track to start on is "upper manhattan medical group" since it starts with a bass sax intro

  • @Akin42
    @Akin42 5 місяців тому

    I was NOT expecting Subaru of hololive dancing on 2:46 in this video.

  • @Mattshaw64fl
    @Mattshaw64fl 2 роки тому +1

    Can you do one on contra bass clarinet???

  • @42Lunar42
    @42Lunar42 Рік тому +1

    As a bari player we get blocked off in the lower register, adding this would allow us to use our beautiful upper register (And could allow for a kick ass bass soprano duet)

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  Рік тому

      Totally agree. High bari is one of my favourite sax sounds. It cam then actually function as a baritone voice.

  • @bruhspenning
    @bruhspenning 11 місяців тому +1

    The bass saxophone I use goes up to a high Eb (written) and the highest usable note I can play is a double high Bb. The lower the instrument the easier it is to get your overtones under control!

  • @EclipseAngel-u7b
    @EclipseAngel-u7b 6 місяців тому +1

    I just found this channel, and I have never before found a man whose opinions I agree with more.

  • @justinfar6156
    @justinfar6156 3 роки тому +2

    The only issue with writing for more bass, is the availability, my state has 2 of them, one doesnt get used and the other is only used by my university, so its a little hard to want more people writing and playing when the instruments are expensive, faulty or non existent in your area :/ would love to play some more bass in the future though

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  3 роки тому +5

      Yes that is the main issue. It must be frustrating for those players who want to play bass but can't access one. My view is if the demand is increased - by way of both composers scoring for it more often, plus players wanting to play bass - then that should start a snowball effect where instrument repairers bring old basses back to life and make secondhand ones more available to players, or renting is more prevalent perhaps. There are options out there. We just need to have a positive attitude and continue to use it!

  • @gothgrrl8711
    @gothgrrl8711 Рік тому +1

    check out Colin Stetson :)

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  Рік тому +1

      Thanks - I'll have a look! Quite a few bass sax vids around which is good.

  • @dr.chrisketo7193
    @dr.chrisketo7193 8 місяців тому +1

    Sehr gut! Danke!

  • @acely8044
    @acely8044 2 роки тому +1

    Where can i get a bass saxophone

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +1

      There is a group on FB called Contrabass Mania. Somebody is selling a bass sax there.

  • @aaron_r6611
    @aaron_r6611 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a Bari player, and I love the sound of Bari and bass but I've never seen bass in person

  • @liamwatson5125
    @liamwatson5125 2 роки тому +3

    One of the fewest jazz musicians to use the bass saxophone as a solo instrument was Adrian Rollini. He learned to play the instrument in only one week! Today that would be impossible because it takes so much lung power to play it. Rollini had been playing other sax types before taking up the bass saxophone. The common abbreviation for it is bsx.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +1

      That's brilliant that he learnt the instrument in just a week. There's a vid (audio) on here of him playing both bass sax and vibes; very impressive.

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 Рік тому

      Its ironic that the clip we hear of Adrian is the very LAST recording he made on bass sax (1938). He was developing a night club style group to feature his vibraharp playing because the bass sax had been such a nonstarter in swing music.

    • @liamwatson5125
      @liamwatson5125 Рік тому

      @@RatPfink66 It was mostly for the Dixieland era.

  • @BretNewtonComposer
    @BretNewtonComposer 3 роки тому +7

    Absolutely wonderful! I've got major Bass Sax parts in most of my band works. I wrote up to a high written F in Symphony 2 and the player nailed it with no problem (using an instrument keyed to high Eb).

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Bret! Look forward to hearing your symphonies. I have plans to write a couple when I get the time. Definitely going to use a big band for one of them so I can write for all these wonderful instruments!

    • @bryanconlong9457
      @bryanconlong9457 3 роки тому

      Do you think it is sufficiently different in timbre to the baritone to justify? Obviously range wise the bass only gains 4 semitones beyond the bari at the bottom, while being unwieldy, rare and expensive.

    • @RollyCoaster
      @RollyCoaster 3 роки тому +4

      @@bryanconlong9457 As a bass sax player, the extra four notes below bari are not the only use for bass sax. Its upper register is an even more unique and labored, albeit thinner tone than bari, and its lower register is much fuller, rounder, darker, warmer than bari, which is often criticized for its harsh bright brassy tone, especially with its low A extension. The added benefit of letting bari play more actual baritone parts and not bass parts alone is enough to justify the use of bass sax for me. Yes, they are expensive and a bit rare, but the unique sound is worth writing for if people can get their hands on one.

  • @craiglsimons
    @craiglsimons 3 роки тому +2

    Great informative video! I have a Bass Sax and play it in my local Concert Band when there’s Holst / Grainger pieces as well as transposing some of the Baritone parts to make the bass line a bit more… punchy! ! It makes a big difference to the ensemble! Also get to play it on saxophone choir play days in and around London. It’s a cumbersome instrument, but man it’s so fun to play!!

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  3 роки тому +2

      That's great you have one and use it in band. Must be satisfying to play something that contributes a huge amount to the band's overall sound.
      Yes it really adds so much. Just hope more composers realise this!

  • @jameslowe3014
    @jameslowe3014 2 роки тому +1

    Wait so the Tubax is NOT a Eb instrument?? I thought it was an octave below Baritone Sax, is it not?

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +2

      There are two types of Tubax. There's the E flat, which is an octave lower than the bari, which is in effect a 'compact' contra; and the B flat which functions as a subcontra and is an octave lower than the bass sax .

    • @jameslowe3014
      @jameslowe3014 2 роки тому +1

      @@danthefugueguy thank you so much for the confirmation!

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +1

      Also, Eppelsheim has released an actual subcontra sax. Check his website. It's a bit of a behemoth!

  • @fiddeou
    @fiddeou 2 роки тому +1

    Check the OST for Horton hears a who! it features some cool bass and baritone sax stuff

  • @arieladriel8430
    @arieladriel8430 2 роки тому +1

    Esta info vale millones. Un instrumento ya casi olvidado, más olvidado que mi Sax Barítono. Una hermosa sonoridad y timbre. Me gusta la suavidad y oscuros que denota

  • @wimpytheory8053
    @wimpytheory8053 3 роки тому +2

    do a video about viola and how underrated it is

  • @dremix9837
    @dremix9837 2 роки тому

    my band have only me with baritone and there's no one before me

  • @Jona-up8lf
    @Jona-up8lf Рік тому +1

    I currently play the tenor but I’d like to switch to bass eventually. Nice video! 😀

  • @madyak
    @madyak 3 роки тому +1

    MEUTE band using it correctly :-)

  • @SpencerSnyder
    @SpencerSnyder 3 роки тому +2

    This was a very good video. It's interesting that the sax in general never became more than a curiosity in symphonic music.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed the vid.
      Yes, I feel the ostricising of the sax by Adolphe Sax's rivals in the 19th century has caused so much lasting prejudice against the saxophone, still felt today. It is a shame it's not a regular part of the orchestral wind section. Even now in modern music, I still hear audience members react with surprise when a sax appears on stage.

  • @mitchellshapiro5905
    @mitchellshapiro5905 2 роки тому +1

    Was a bit confused to see your stuff for Bass Sax written in the Bass clef vs the G clef where all sax parts usually lie-- also I have heard it is challenging to find bass sax mouthpieces, and reeds-- and a large enough case-- and if you live in an apartment a place to store it out of sight-- we are doing Wm Schuman's George Washington Bridge in concert band and there is a part for Bass sax- our Bari has a Bass but cannot do both .

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +2

      The example was in concert pitch rather than transposed pitch.
      When preparing a score I use treble clef for all saxes as is the norm.

  • @QuevedoSax
    @QuevedoSax Рік тому +2

    I am a saxophonist that would love to play bass saxophone, even the tubax!! But here in Brazil those are extremely rare instruments

    • @SenorCluck
      @SenorCluck Рік тому +1

      You should look into Galassine or J’elle Stainer. I believe they are both Brazilian companies and they make low saxophones like bass down to subcontrabass

    • @QuevedoSax
      @QuevedoSax Рік тому

      @@SenorCluck Thank you so much! I think Stainer is german but I`ll look them! thanks again for the shared knowledge!

  • @MrDude667
    @MrDude667 2 роки тому

    You going to buy the sax player a bass sax so they can play your music? Those things are like $10,000 minimum for a halfway decent one.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +3

      They are still being made so there must be demand for them. Yes of course like any instrument there are cost implications.
      Often a bass can be made available somewhere. Even if it's hired, that's better than ignoring it completely, so any composer who writes for it has their music enhanced by its use.

  • @NevertahnProduction
    @NevertahnProduction 2 роки тому +1

    I think its important that someone talks about why string bass is in stage band. There is no video on this anywhere. Even if one exists, it probably wont explain why its suddenly a good idea to add an instrument so good at being drowned out by anything into a band that is so good at drowning out everything i.e. many low wind instruments trample all over string bass. The poor instrument can never be heard under so much weight on the low end of the other instruments

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +3

      Good point. Often I ask the player to double on bass guitar as I know it can thicken the texture a bit more in loud sections, then I reserve the string bass for moderate to quiet passages to take advantage of the pizzicato, which is a sound no other instrument in the band can replicate. Sax slap tongue (esp on bari or bass) is kind of similar, but is not always appropriate in every situation.
      Not to say I never ask the bass guitar to play quietly though - that's a very useful colour too.

  • @kenshindayo
    @kenshindayo Рік тому

    1:27 where is c melodysax?

  • @cameronwiseman8598
    @cameronwiseman8598 2 роки тому +2

    Whats your view on the Contrabass and ContraAlto Clarinets and the extremly rare OctoContraAlto Clarinet

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +2

      Planning on doing a vid on the ContraAlto Clarinet. Very underrated instrument which can do a lot.
      Love the contrabass. I write for it often. Has a growing number of concerti too.
      OctoContras were a fantastic concept. I understand that the LeBlanc models are languishing in a museum never to be played again. Shame, as it'd be great to hear one in a band setting or film score.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  10 місяців тому +1

      @@magnostadt341 still on the list! Probably aim to finish it next year.

  • @jimrich4192
    @jimrich4192 6 місяців тому

    Rahsaan needed that! 😂

  • @GRONKIN
    @GRONKIN 2 роки тому

    Any way I can get the bass solo?

  • @starwolven
    @starwolven Рік тому

    Sure! That'd be great if the instrument didn't cost $20,000!

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  Рік тому +1

      There are some basses available for less than that - about 30-40% of that price - which certainly puts it within reach of colleges/universities etc., at least in Europe/UK. It's the Tubax and Contra saxes which are frequently over 20k.

  • @abaf209
    @abaf209 2 роки тому +1

    I don't have any orchestra knowledge, but I found this video extremely intresting !
    Do you know if a bass saxophone can replace a bass guitar in a band (by taking into account the constraints related to the instrument oc) ?

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks, glad you found the video useful.
      It would certainly be possible to write for a bass sax with its role functioning as a bass guitar. Whether it fits with the overall soundworld of the band however is a matter for the players to decide. It should have a definite purpose.
      You have a slightly limited bottom end, in that you miss the lowest four semitones of a standard 4-string bass guitar.
      You could use slap tongue effects occasionally to mimic some bass guitar-type sounds too.
      That said, using both would be very interesting too.

  • @lucaacevedo1041
    @lucaacevedo1041 3 роки тому +1

    Here from Argentina, love your channel!

  • @arisowizard7178
    @arisowizard7178 2 роки тому +1

    you inspired me to add the bass sax to my latest pieces...by the way, if you have any idea on how to name pieces, please let me know😅

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +1

      Great news! You'll find adding one makes a big difference.

  • @mattiehendrikx6998
    @mattiehendrikx6998 3 роки тому +1

    I am sitting next to a bass sax in my wind band and it really sounds like the claxon of an enormous cargo plane ;D

    • @paulcohen2556
      @paulcohen2556 2 роки тому

      At the very least, time for a new mouthpiece for the bass!

  • @schienenlaufer697
    @schienenlaufer697 2 роки тому +1

    What a profound video on my loved instrument that I've been playing for more than 20 years after decades on other saxes and clarinet. A funny movie, too!

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed the video. That's great you've been playing for so long on bass sax. One of my favourites to write for.

  • @coloraturaElise
    @coloraturaElise Рік тому +1

    Oooh, awesome bass sax solo in your symphony! Another great video highlighting an underused instrument...thank you!

  • @mollydunham6986
    @mollydunham6986 2 роки тому +1

    The tubax is a move compact version of the contrabass sax not the subcontrabass

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, although Eppelsheim does call his B flat Tubax a subcontra.
      Having said that, I believe he has now made an actual subcontra, which is not a Tubax, just to muddy the waters slightly!
      All instruments with amazing engineering. His contraforte is a brilliant updated contrabassoon too.

  • @mtv565
    @mtv565 Рік тому

    @0:57 - Bassoon is primarily a tenor instrument. Not really a bass.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  Рік тому +2

      Technically it can function as both; also in lots of band music it is only ever given the function of a bass instrument as the tenor 'area' in a band is often very minimal.
      I agree that the tenor register is used less in band music compared to orchestral rep; think of the gorgeous solo in Respighi's Botticelli Triptych.

  • @lawrenceleighton122
    @lawrenceleighton122 2 роки тому +1

    I just saw this and thought it was excellent. The problem I have as a bass saxophonist is playing with a community band. As you probably know, no one writes parts for it. At first I had to transpose the bari parts for 70 of their songs using Scanscore and MuseScore. It was quite tedious and fraught with errors. I have now decided it would be best to learn to transpose by sight. It is not easy. I don't know what bass sax players normally do in this situation. I wish the sheet music vendors would include bass sax in their scores.

    • @danthefugueguy
      @danthefugueguy  2 роки тому +1

      Yes this is part of the problem. Lazy arranging. If more bass sax parts were included, even marked optional, at least a player in your situation will have a dedicated part to play.
      Composers just need to get used to including a part, like how most sets of parts contain both bass and treble clef parts for Baritone/Euphonium.

    • @lawrenceleighton122
      @lawrenceleighton122 2 роки тому +1

      @@danthefugueguy Thanks.