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Love the outside kitchen. Our current RV has one and we use it more than the inside one. I also like the additional awnings; RVing is all about being outdoors and awnings make that more comfortable. Thank you for for the great review. I like how you review what’s important like storage and comfort. “Howard, real talk in the gear garage.” Love it! You guys make me smile, thank you!!
Hi Rachelle!! Exactly! We think we'd be like you, and probably use the outside kitchen area more. That's good to hear you like yours! We love hanging out outside. Hahaha, gotta keep it real! 😂👏 Howard consistently makes me laugh, too. 😆 Thanks for watching this episode! ♥️ -Katelyn
A presentation well done! The European spirit is crawling in. I see in this EKKO quite a number of features that have been quite common here for years. Greetings from Bavaria, Germany.
Great job Howard and Katelyn! Loved the way you both showed this Winnebago 22A. I love Winnebago and class Cs. Those are my favorites to do camping with. This one is nice. The bed looks cozy. I like the bathroom shower how turn the wall around. I like the outdoor kitchen too. The awning look cool too. And the storage. Thank you both for showing this Winnebago 22A. Can’t wait to see more!
You both did a really nice job of the tour. I agree it is really nice, retired couple for a couple of weeks, weekend trips perfect. But with your full timing with your three cutie babies the C might be a better choice for your next adventure. That we hope to follow along.
Kris, thanks so much! We can't wait to "see" the "C" in person to compare, but based on the floorplan it is VERY appealing to us. The A and C each have different strengths, will be a tough decision if we ever have to pick! -Howard
Hey Shannon!! Right?! The improvements they come up with are incredible, it's so fun to see how they maximize the space and I am a huge fan of that bathroom! Thanks so much for watching, as always! You're the best! -Katelyn
Will you be shipping an RV from the U.S. over to Europe and back, or are you planning to rent or buy an RV once you get to Europe? I live in Alsace, on the French/German border, and innovative quality built RVs and Vans are much cheaper in Europe than they are in the U.S.. You can buy a great Van in Europe for between 40,000 to 65,000 € ($45-$70,000).
Hi Jack! Right?! Such a smart use of space, the shower is definitely a wow-feature for sure! So glad you enjoyed our review. Thanks for watching! -Katelyn
Love your channel and adventures! I have been researching the purchase of a Class C RV the past 9 months and when I first saw the EKKO, it was clear to me that it is going to be a game changer compared to anything else in this space! I like the AWD for off-road use and the Eco boost engine for high elevation travel in the mountains. I also like the slide-out on the 24C and it looks like moving the passenger seats to the other side may allow them to recline. Can't wait to see both when available in the Atlanta area.
Hi Larry! Thanks so much for the kind words! It really is, the huge tank capacities combined with the lithium and solar take Class C RVing to a new level, especially for those of us who like boondocking. Thanks for watching our review! -Katelyn
Hi you guys. Very cool exclusive review on this rig. [I first saw this rig on another couples channel, however they talked alot before showing the rig. Bored me, so I split and your channel popped up. I haven't been on UTube too much so I'll look in on your channel to see what you have been up. Great job showing the new Ekko. Killer. Congratulations.
LOTS of tech in the EKKO (and frankly the Revel, Boldt, View/Navion). Winnebago's packing a lot in their premium B and C's! Thanks so much for watching. 👍 -Howard
Love the little details like the extra counter space, privacy curtain, and for sure that unique bathroom. Oh, and the outdoor kitchen! How cute is that little outdoor faucet? 🤭 Great review, you two! ❤️ Looking forward to seeing what else you find at the show. Have fun!!!
Thanks! It sometimes feels like an easter egg hunt trying to find all the features. 😂 This is an "interesting" show with COVID-19, but we're trying our best to explore safely. 👍 -Howard
Isn't it an awesome way to save space?! I know some Euro RVs already have that design, but so glad to see Winnebago bringing it to the US and Canada. 👍 Thanks so much for watching! -Howard
You guys..... that was one of the best RV review videos I have seen. I have watched 3 on the Ekko now and yours was the very best. Smooth flowing and you got so much info covered in this video. I can't wait to see the 24C one you do. That is the RV I am really interested in. Living in Canada and having to be back after 6 months away and hitting freezing temps still, this Ekko is my choice for an RV. So do you think the 24C will be a little easier to drive for you because the Ekko is narrower than the View/Navion or would it be basically the same? I love your Navion because it suits the 5 of you and you have made it yours. Enjoy the rest of the show.
Hi Susie! Wow, thank you SO much for the compliment! That means the world to us. We wanted to cover as much as we could and also keep it exciting and fast-paced. We're REALLY excited to see the 24C! That definitely makes sense on why you would like it too! It is narrower and a little shorter, so it might be more nimble to drive but our Navion drives really well too! Part of why were interested in the 24C is because of the additional capabilities it would give us for boondocking. Don't get us wrong, we looove our Navion and this has been the best rig for all 5 of us, we agree with you there! ☺️ We'll know a lot more once we're able to see the 24c, for sure! Thanks again for your kind words ♥️ and always supporting us! -Katelyn
Cindy, it was so great to finally meetup with Robert! We are still very early in the planning phase for Europe, and very TBD if we will be able to easily bring any US RV over with us (there is a list of logistics we are working through, and we are also in parallel researching RV options in Europe). However, we are definitely fans of the new EKKO and hope to see the 24C floorplan soon! Thanks so much for watching, we're so glad you're along for the journey. -Howard
I didn't read all the comments so if already noted I apologize. On our View 19D the Maxxair fan is a model 8501K which does not include in/out fan direction. In fact the spec sheet does not indicate a remote even though we have one. Anyway, great video. Love watching you guys! Stay safe.
Terry, I'm sure we have the same one on our Navion 19D, and you're right it is exhaust only (with remote). I've asked about this and it seems like the OEM version sold to Winnebago doesn't have the ability to switch directions, but if you buy the retail version you CAN! Fingers crossed that Winnebago switches to the in/out version, would be a great benefit to us (and sounds like you as well). As always, thanks for watching! 👍 -Howard
Doug, there is a lot we like about the EKKO, and couldn't agree more! It will be VERY interesting to compare the 24C floorplan, could make a tough decision for a lot of people. 👍 -Howard
I love the huge garage to store bikes chairs and table etc inside. We are not ready yet to buy but we will consider the ekko Ford gas You guys did a terrific presentation.
It's such a cool rig, they've done some really impressive work with it! Have you gotten a chance to check it out in person yet!? The bed is surprisingly comfy and roomy!
James, there's a lot to like in the EKKO! Now, between the 22A and the 24C? That's a tough one for us at least. Have you looked at both floorplans online? -Howard
I'd like to see them install a flush mount sink, and give you the option of choosing an induction cooktop if you don't want the propane. And it definitely needs a convection microwave. I like what Thor is doing, offering a dual cooking set-up with one propane burner, and one induction unit, side by side. I know that an induction top is an easy after market purchase, but in such a small rig storage will always be at a premium, so having one installed at the factory would be a nice option.
Mark, thanks for watching, and great points! I know Winnebago offers the dual cooktop set you mentioned (induction and propane) on the new View/Navions. Just between our model year (2019) and the new 2021 Navion, there have been several improvements. Wouldn't be surprised if you saw it come to the EKKO as well. 👍 -Howard
Loved the review. I really liked the magical shower,that’s what I call it.lol. Definitely loved that this RV is up for any kind of weather. Great storage,but I would want more floor space.
That's a GREAT name for it! ✨🚽🚿✨ From a boondocking standpoint, it's amazing! We're really anxious to see the EKKO with the slide out, hoping that will help with the floor space issue for us! 🤞☺️
It is interesting going with the Ford Transit chassis, since I think the EKKO would be the only Winnebago built on it. Maybe it was the variety itself paired with gas powered AWD that was the appeal to the Winnebago team? Thanks for watching! -Howard
Neat little rig! Nicely done video. Definitely don’t see how y’all could manage full time travel with 3 Doggos WITHOUT going crazy! 🤣 but I suppose it could make for great content! ☺️
Thanks so much! It would definitely be a challenge in this floorplan, but entertaining indeed 😂 we're really excited to see the 24C with the slide! -Katelyn
Hahaha, it's always an adventure around here with all the doggos! There is a difference with energy levels of the puggles vs Scout, and that helps. Scout really enjoys long hikes, Piper really enjoys alone time with sleep. 😂 Thanks so much for watching, really glad you enjoyed the tour! -Howard
@@NewstateNomads I’m curious how you guys feel about the 24C! So many pros and cons in these rigs! The different Doggo personalities definitely helps with the lifestyle. So thankful for the lazy dogs and the adventure one as well. Some to hold down the fort and Scout to watch your back while hiking ☺️ - Amber
That gets my vote for the absolute best designed compact bathroom - very innovative! Curious about the cassette toilet since I’ve never used one.... Great review!
The bathroom is popular in Europe which is where Winnebago got the concept. Hats off to Winnebago for Having the courage to take something from Europe to the United States
We own a motorhome in France and it has a cassette toilet. I really miss the huge black water tank we had in our Itasca Navion 24j. Like this Ekko, our motorhome has a garage at the back (the French call it “soute”) and it is great, we love it. I look forward to see the 24C floor plan. We also have 2 dogs and like more living space. The 24C might very well be our next purchase after we are done RVing in Europe. The idea of a real 4 seasons coach is interesting. We live in Quebec and have not even travelled across our own country yet. Because of the pandemic, we won’t be able to go to France in April and May as planned. So we are thinking about buying an RV and go to the Rockies instead. We found a 2019 View 24D juste like yours near our place. It only has 6000 km! I discovered you when I was looking for reviews on this model. I love watching all your videos. Should we make an offer on this RV ? Tough decision......This pandemic is really annoying. Keep up the good work, very inspiring!
Helene, such a tough decision for both of us! The challenge I believe is the different features and purpose of the View vs EKKO. I believe with the EKKO Winnebago is trying to enable colder, more remote exploration. The features support that concept, including the All wheel drive chassis. The View/Navions for us are truly a home on wheels with all the amenities. Spacious, high end finishes and features. We kind of push our Navion to the limit of it's design, particularly in the rugged environments we camped in this summer. That's why the EKKO is such an appealing option! Hard to choose! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
Hi JD! Isn't it?! It has so many amazing features that really raise the bar for Class C boondocking. Awww thank you! Touring the Journey was such a treat, that's a gorgeous coach! -Katelyn
I have s-ent a lot of time overseas. I recommend you find something less wide with slide outs and the ability to hit decent highways speeds. It will make your life easier. For what it is worth. Great video.
Great review guys! I've stolen plenty of ideas for RV! I love that rear corner awning! And we're definetly going to look at getting some of those fake rocks too! Miss you guys! Andy&L
Gregorio, I agree and think this will be a very successful new line for Winnebago! With all that storage in the back, I wonder if there's a collapsible hammock stand you could bring with you? Thanks for watching, hope you'll continue on the journey with us! 👍 -Howard
That was a fabulous RV tour. I'm almost convinced I'd like to swap my apartment for the RV lifestyle, only hubby isn't. Never mind. I'll just keep traveling with you guys. For a space perspective and taking the 3 other tenants into account I'd go for the more spacious model. I'm assuming that, in Europe, you'll have a small vehicle with you to travel locally like you do now. As the roads aren't all that wide and spacious as in the states. But you guys are the experts so I am sure your decisions will be based on previous experience. Happy travels. Can't wait to see what you ultimately decide on. Keep safe and keep smiling. 👍 🎥 🚍❤️🌷🙋♀️
Mark, it does have a lot of storage! To answer, yes, all the hatches we saw had locking handles. Additionally, as you twisted the handle, it would pull the door tight against the gaskets, helping with weatherproofing. Can't wait to see the EKKO out and about. Thanks for watching, hope you'll continue on the journey with us! 👍 -Howard
It's a great point. I do recall in conversation with the Winnebago team a mention of specific materials for the wall that inhibit mold growth, but can't remember the specifics. Might be also mentioned in the Fit RV video (link in our description) or some of their articles on their site. Thanks for watching! -Howard
It's awesome !!! I wonder why they only have (1) prototype ...... I mean wouldn't it be good to have a few of these out testing to see how they work and hold up before finalizing everything ?
Rob, just saw your comment. From what we understand, Winnebago builds the prototype by hand with the design team. Then another phase of builds occur for further testing and production planning. Finally, after it passes testing in this second phase do they start production on the assembly line for customer deliveries. The prototype has already had modifications (like a different window in the galley) and they are continuing to refine the design even as we speak! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
So if you were to commit to an EKKO in the future do you think you’d end up with the 22A or the 24C? Another nice thing about the C is the black water tank. How do you feel about the cassette toilet in general? It seems like it would have to be dumped a lot more frequently. Also, would you opt to keep the awning with the led lights? We love using ours personally in the Fuse.
Michelle you bring up a lot of great points and questions on this one, it would be hard to choose between the two floorplans! The 24C with the slide seems to have the edge on floorspace and a traditional black tank. The 22A has the external kitchen and pop-top options. We're, uh, kinda torn here. 😂 -Howard
@@NewstateNomads oh my! I didn’t know the external kitchen was only on the 22A! Darn! And I’d need to see a video of the pop top to see what it’s all about.
Thank you for your video, two questions: - If you are headed to Europe with this EKKO, how easy is it to transport it to Europe, how and how long to get it to Europe and one way cost? Any refitting needed to meet Europe regulations? - The bathroom divider wall, after you shower, bathroom is wet, bringing wall back to use the toilette, now you have a sealed wet area behind that wall, any concern for mold, bacteria growth, etc?
Great points and questions! We're still researching a couple of shipping companies, but no refitting is needed if it is a TEMPORARY import (meaning keeping the US plates on the RV and no more than 6 months inside the EU every 12 months). The divider wall isn't completely sealed, there's a gap of at least 1" when it is up against the shower enclosure side. I also recall, but can't find anything on the Winnebago site specifically about the divider wall materials and their robustness against mold/bacteria. During a conversation with the Winnebago team, it was mentioned that they believed it had resistance to the above, but again, I'll try and get some more info about that. Thanks so much for watching, hope you'll continue on the journey with us! 👍 -Howard
That Frolee (sp?) sleeper system looks awesome! What’s it for exactly? It looks like it would be great for air ventilation and preventing mold! We had issues under our bed this winter with mold.
Froli is a support system, kind of like a box spring on your home mattress, but I would imagine it would also help with moisture under the mattress, too! I'll ask when we are back at the show today. 👍 -Howard
That Froli system is frequently used in German vans and Rvs. Best for air ventilation AND your back! But you have to choose the right mattress with it.
@@NewstateNomads Don`t wish to have to idle the vehicle that much especially when the sun doesn't always shine. Plus more back-up. It pulls off the fuel tank and I will do a lot of off-grid. Living in Germany now and will return to the US in August/September to pick up the EKKO 24C. Really like the European type of design. Vans (Wohnmobil) type B is very popular here because the roads are smaller and easier to get around in the cities. My nephew and I followed the Tour de France in 2019 in his Wohnmobil. Your wife and you did a very good review on the EKKO and pointed out the main points. Good luck with your European trip.
@@russellramey45 What about putting a booster in instead of having a generator here in Germany/Europe? I had a Büttner booster built in my Hymer van (2013), so my 220Ah AGM- batteries (usable c. 50%) are always full. Well, I drive around a lot and do not stay more than 2 - 3 days in one (official) place - Stellplatz. Boondocking is becoming more and more impossible/illegal anyways.
@@russellramey45 I'm with you Russell. I'd add battery and keep genny. I live in the south near Houston and the AC is a must have. You'd need that gen to take the air cond load off of the 2nd alternator so it could recharge batteries after running the AC for a short night stop when traveling. Even with 2 of those batteries, the AC would deplete them in 5 to 6 hours in the weather we have down here. ACs run most all of the time. I'm judging this from RVs I normally see down here and hopefully this Ekko has some better insulation. It appears as though it does. I'm sure we'll learn more as W start to build them and they start to hit the road. But this thing is totally awesome!
Winnebago finally is picking up some design ideas from the europiums. If you were to buy the RV and go to Europe, ever think of buying the RV in Europe, tour Europe ( and Asia?), then ship the RV back to US as used. This may save you some money as well. If you like the design style of Ekko, I think you will love the RVs made in Europe.
All options are on the table right now for Europe. We'd love to ship our RV home over there are explore, but there are logistics issues both with our and a new Euro one (including permanent modifications) if we were to bring one back to the US. We're very in the research phase, definitely appreciate your thoughts on it! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
Apologies, we didn't really look too deeply at the battery compartment, maybe take a look at the tour link in the description by The Fit RV? I know they are heated, and definitely appear in a long slender plastic housing, but that's about as far as I can tell you. 😂 Thanks for watching! -Howard
Seen one in person. It's really great. Just feel like they barely missed the mark of perfect. "In my opinion," if it were on the Mercedes (much more comfort), and lifted, it would have been a world better. Now if it were a Diesel Mercedes 4x4 rather than AWD with optional lift, it would be literal perfection without being fully custom. Yes, I understand the price vs what is being provided. Still a big win for Winnebago.
I'm excited to see one in person. We have a 2017 Navion 24J and really love it. Without a doubt, Winnebago has some of the finest engineers and Innovative creators in the RV business. However, their installers are at best average and in my opinion below-average. Specifically the wiring system is just slopped together in my Winnebago. For example, we were having dc power outage issues. Fortunately I troubleshot to loose main DC cable connector on circuit breaker underneath the passenger seat. It arced so severely burned up the 2 circuit breakers. As a systems engineer, their quality assurance is almost non-existent for the installers. So my fear is the Ekko has everything going for it . But the installers I fear will causes the Ekko to be a headache for Winnebago 1st couple of years. There is so much behind the walls the troubleshooting will be a nightmare.
@@NewstateNomads No, I'm an old aviation electrician so not worth the down time to fix under extended warranty. Since we were muchdocking for 4 months, I troubleshot & fixed. During troubleshooting process of opening up passenger's seat and wiring under corner bed, I discovered 3 ganged relays dangling not attached to relay plate under seat because the installer miss routed the massive wire bundles, additionally, the installer severely bent the wire terminals attached to circuit breakers resulting over time loose connection. Under the bed, the installer again missrouted so badly there is no fix sort of rewiring; however, the wiring under bed is electrically sound just makes winterizing the Truma valves very hard to both find and operate. Winnebago tech center awesome! ! Sent me schematics...made the job very easy. Winnebago engineers, customer service, and Technical help could not be better. They are outstanding . just too bad the installers are more like the old Detroit assembly lines who are just there for a paycheck.
Michael, thanks for watching, and great point! I can confirm that the 24C is on the same AWD Ford Transit chassis as the 22A, and we also can't wait for it to come out! 👍 -Howard
Was there last year! Can you do me a huge virus favor and go to Newmar and do a video of any model of the Bay Star (if they have the 3401 that would be over the top). Many people also like to see some of the diesels too:) Have fun and thanks so much!
So what sheets would you even try attempt to make that bed with? Our Travato 59G is hard enough . Great video. Your arent quite as annoying as fit rv . 👍
Gilbert, thanks so much, glad you enjoyed our episode! Funny story about the sheets, we keep getting conflicting answers, and honestly I know it is because the EKKO is still in prototype phase. Best case scenario, one member of Team Winnebago told us a set of the fitted sheets could be included as part of the overall "WinnSleep" system of new mattresses in the EKKO. Presuming further, I would imagine you could order more sets. Given Winnebago makes all their own soft goods (the StitchCraft division of the company), this doesn't sound outside the realm of possibility, but I WILL followup to see if I can get an absolute thumbs up or down. 👍 -Howard
Kevin, you're right! Hopefully we can all see the 24C in real life, but from the floorplan alone we're definitely interested. Thanks for watching! 👍 -Howard
Hi Avery! Thanks so much, we definitely want to look at it with full-timing in mind. We're super excited to tour the EKKO 24C soon and we'll definitely let you know our thoughts! What do you think of this floorplan? Thanks so much for watching. -Katelyn
Hi Ed! We agree, we can't wait to see the floor plan with the slide. I think that will make a big difference. MSRP is $163K, but that's recommended pricing and can always vary by dealer and location. Thanks for watching! :) -Katelyn
@@NewstateNomads New to RV but retirement and recently widowed...I've been researching for months for a great match for my needs. I've learned as with pretty much anything in life, there's a broad range of pricing for any item and with the lesser priced items come the headaches from all the posts I've read. Cheaper RV comes with needs for repairs & services almost immediately once on the road. Do you feel that paying more for an RV than a brick/mortar home costs...you get peace of mind with a solid vehicle that's not a burden?
Curious how the plumbing/water lines are done. I don't see any UA-camrs ever showing the downside. Winnebago has been using white flexible hose with pex fitting in numerous coaches. That hose and fitting combo creates leaks. No one ever talks about it but major leaks on many Winnebago models including your 2019 24D. Any thoughts on this? They are still using the same pipes in certain areas in their 2021 model. A 1 year warranty doesn't do much when those leaks pop up after a year.
All the plumbing is internal to the coach on the EKKO to help with low temp performance (and avoid freezing anything), but as a result almost none of it is visible unless we pull some drawers. Interesting you mention leaks, we've had ZERO problems on our 19 24D with 2.5 years of fulltime usage. Do you know or can point to sites/threads that show specific spots where these leaks have occurred for others? Is it maybe where the white hoses meet the pex? -Howard
Will you be shipping an RV from the U.S. over to Europe and back, or are you planning to rent or buy an RV once you get to Europe? I live in Alsace, on the French/German border, and innovative quality built RVs and Vans are much cheaper in Europe than they are in the U.S.. You can buy a great Van in Europe for between 40,000 to 65,000 € ($45-$70,000).
Michael, this is still very up in the air. We would love to ship our RV over, but there's a lot involved in that. It might in the end make more sense to find one in Europe. Separately we would LOVE to pick your brain on recommendations for our trip. Can you message us on IG or FB? Thanks so much for watching! -Howard
Nice, but... I think I would hate the cassette toilet. Could you really boondock for a week with that toilet? Also, how do you possibly put sheets on the bed? Maybe I'm missing something?
Hey Marty! That's definitely a great question... We have no idea about the cassette toilet 😂 we would need to learn that for sure. That's also a great follow up question for Winnebago, we'll ask about the sheets! The prototype had a set of really soft, comfy fitted sheets on the bed already, so maybe that's the plan? We'll let you know what we find out. Good ❓'s! ☺️ -Katelyn
ONE cassette is definitely not sufficient even if you are camping alone. But nobody prevents you from having a second one in the storage space, as most people have (if they need so). Besides, e.g. the Thetford cassette can be ordered with a ventilation system, or you can have a separate one installed (SOG) in Germany (www.sog-systeme.de/?lang=en)
I love almost everything about it. Thanks for the review. The cassette toilet is a deal breaker for me. With 50 gallon gray water capacity, I would prefer it split to accommodate a black water tank. If you’re having to dump gray water, why not black? I would also love to see the induction/propane cooktop. Also, I love the shower solution but I would feel a little claustrophobic, can Winnebago either make a small window high up or have the door not go to the ceiling.
Esther, lots of great points, thanks for watching! It will be interesting if we get to see the other 24C floorplan soon to compare. It has a separate shower, and a traditional black tank which might be more to yours and our liking. There are definitely pros to each of the floorplans! -Howard
How many cassettes does it come with? 50 gallons of grey is great but 5 gallons of black? ... sounds like a lot of day trips to the nearest rest stop with cassette in hand. Otherwise, I like it, but that would be the deal breaker for me.
Bob, it's a great question and point about the cassette. Based on conversations with the Winnebago team in Tampa, it's comes with ONE cassette, but dealers CAN order more for you. The manufacturer apparently doesn't sell direct to consumer, so you need a dealer to complete the order for you. I also know Revel owners who have multiple cassettes and swap them out until they can take them to be emptied. Hope that helps! -Howard
Hello My question has to do with the drawer construction. Are they still using staples? (The main reason I vowed to never buy winnebago again) Also that strap in the front large cabinet. I know th purpose is to stop sagging but it l think it looks tacky
It's a good question, and we didn't check the drawer sides. I will say on our 2019 Winnebago Navion 24D, if the drawers are built with staples, they've held up just fine in over two years of full-time living. Thanks for watching. -Howard
Thanks! We responded elsewhere, but this show is harder than usual because 1- COVID-19 and 2- Media Day was cancelled. Thanks to our relationship with Winnebago, we CAN visit their displays early and late which makes it easier to film reviews. I can only promise we'll try! -Howard
Love it except for the cassette toilet. 5 gallons?? Don’t want to dump every couple of days and have to deal with the weight and visually and olfactory proximity to the waste.
Hahaha I never knew the cassette toilets we're so polarizing until we made this review! No one is in the middle on the subject, but I'm going to wait until I can try it myself on a coach before making a decision. 😂 Thanks for watching, David, and hope you'll continue on the journey with us. 👍 -Howard
John, we can personally attest that they DEFINITELY listen to customers and of course the build quality of our Navion. I think It's a little too early to judge on the prototype EKKO (there are some obvious components that have already been changed out, a different bathroom sink, slightly different lighting in bedroom, the trim around one of the windows isn't fitted right now as they are now testing a different window in the galley, colors are mismatched from testing and evaluation of materials, etc), but I do believe it will be a tight build in production. This is shaping up to be a killer off-grid RV and great compliment to the rest of the line. 👍 -Howard
@@NewstateNomads trust me we know, we have 2 labs (chocolate/yellow) and we take them everywhere, they need their space. Looking forward to future videos. Take care be safe- Ivan
Peter, I wouldn't be surprised if they update the cooktop to a combo induction/propane unit like in the View/Navions. Gives the best of both worlds. 👍 -Howard
Joseph, great point. We don't have any experience with the cassette toilets, but do know people who have ordered multiple cassettes to extend their time Boondocking (we know people with Revels that use a similar if not the same cassette as the EKKO). For us, the challenge has been freshwater capacity when Boondocking, but it didn't stop us from 125 straight days of free camping in 2020. 👍 -Howard
Hi Ricardo, pricing varies based on options and packages and is all available on the Winnebago website. Thanks for watching! -Howard www.winnebago.com/models/product/motorhomes-and-towables/motorhomes/class-c/ekko
Lots and lots of Euro features and style in this one, mixed with rugged for rougher terrain exploring. It's an interesting combo! Thanks for watching, Michael. 👍 -Howard
Been catching up on these EKKO previews and this sad part is Winnebago decided to drop the black tank on these. Don't get me wrong on cassette, they're great systems, but not everyone wants to "dump their business" by hand ;)
Deanna, yes we should be able to pull a tow car! Remember, preliminary numbers since it's a prototype, but a car under 4,000lbs should work just fine (bonus if it has a built-in picnic table 😂). 👍 -Howard
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If I ever win the lottery I’m definitely getting an Ekko!
Love the outside kitchen. Our current RV has one and we use it more than the inside one. I also like the additional awnings; RVing is all about being outdoors and awnings make that more comfortable. Thank you for for the great review. I like how you review what’s important like storage and comfort. “Howard, real talk in the gear garage.” Love it! You guys make me smile, thank you!!
Hi Rachelle!! Exactly! We think we'd be like you, and probably use the outside kitchen area more. That's good to hear you like yours! We love hanging out outside. Hahaha, gotta keep it real! 😂👏 Howard consistently makes me laugh, too. 😆 Thanks for watching this episode! ♥️ -Katelyn
A presentation well done! The European spirit is crawling in. I see in this EKKO quite a number of features that have been quite common here for years. Greetings from Bavaria, Germany.
True true. I'm impressed at Winnebago had the courage to implement the European style. Hats off to Winnebago
Thanks to both of you for watching, and we agree! 👍 -Howard
Great job Howard and Katelyn!
Loved the way you both showed this Winnebago 22A. I love Winnebago and class Cs. Those are my favorites to do camping with. This one is nice. The bed looks cozy. I like the bathroom shower how turn the wall around. I like the outdoor kitchen too. The awning look cool too. And the storage. Thank you both for showing this Winnebago 22A.
Can’t wait to see more!
Thanks, Sherri! Lots to love with the EKKO, we need to compare the 22A floorspace with the 24C, it could be tight with three dogs. 😂 -Howard
Great review! Like that you kept it to-the-point and moving along 👍
Hi Bob! Thanks so much, we wanted to have a thorough, but fast-paced video! So glad you enjoyed it! -Katelyn
Good stuff! Great to meet you two at the show.
Thanks so much! It was awesome to meet you, too!! ☺️👏
You both did a really nice job of the tour. I agree it is really nice, retired couple for a couple of weeks, weekend trips perfect. But with your full timing with your three cutie babies the C might be a better choice for your next adventure. That we hope to follow along.
Kris, thanks so much! We can't wait to "see" the "C" in person to compare, but based on the floorplan it is VERY appealing to us. The A and C each have different strengths, will be a tough decision if we ever have to pick! -Howard
Winnebago should give you an Ekko to drive around in and tape your tape your adventures! Love watching You!
Catherine, thanks so much! We love sharing our adventures, and so glad you're on the journey with us. 👍 -Howard
Wow! These RVs are amazing! That shower/bath was genius. Can’t wait to see what you choose for Europe. Fantastic video as always!
Hey Shannon!! Right?! The improvements they come up with are incredible, it's so fun to see how they maximize the space and I am a huge fan of that bathroom! Thanks so much for watching, as always! You're the best! -Katelyn
Will you be shipping an RV from the U.S. over to Europe and back, or are you planning to rent or buy an RV once you get to Europe?
I live in Alsace, on the French/German border, and innovative quality built RVs and Vans are much cheaper in Europe than they are in the U.S..
You can buy a great Van in Europe for between 40,000 to 65,000 € ($45-$70,000).
Great to meet you guys today! Hoping to see you guys and Scout tomorrow! 😀😁
We loved chatting with you guys! So nice meeting you! Hoping we can bring Scout over, maybe this afternoon. We'll message you on Instagram! ☺️
WOW on the shower I loved the genius who came up with that idea. Winnebago 2thumbs up on the Ekko and thanks for the review....
Hi Jack! Right?! Such a smart use of space, the shower is definitely a wow-feature for sure! So glad you enjoyed our review. Thanks for watching! -Katelyn
Such showers in Rvs have been quite common over a decade here in Germany/Europe.
Love your channel and adventures! I have been researching the purchase of a Class C RV the past 9 months and when I first saw the EKKO, it was clear to me that it is going to be a game changer compared to anything else in this space! I like the AWD for off-road use and the Eco boost engine for high elevation travel in the mountains. I also like the slide-out on the 24C and it looks like moving the passenger seats to the other side may allow them to recline. Can't wait to see both when available in the Atlanta area.
Hi Larry! Thanks so much for the kind words! It really is, the huge tank capacities combined with the lithium and solar take Class C RVing to a new level, especially for those of us who like boondocking. Thanks for watching our review! -Katelyn
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Hi you guys. Very cool exclusive review on this rig. [I first saw this rig on another couples channel, however they talked alot before showing the rig. Bored me, so I split and your channel popped up.
I haven't been on UTube too much so I'll look in on your channel to see what you have been up.
Great job showing the new Ekko. Killer.
Congratulations.
Thanks and so glad our tour was helpful! 👍 -Howard
Excellent! I really love the technology that has been put into this.
LOTS of tech in the EKKO (and frankly the Revel, Boldt, View/Navion). Winnebago's packing a lot in their premium B and C's! Thanks so much for watching. 👍 -Howard
Love the little details like the extra counter space, privacy curtain, and for sure that unique bathroom. Oh, and the outdoor kitchen! How cute is that little outdoor faucet? 🤭
Great review, you two! ❤️ Looking forward to seeing what else you find at the show. Have fun!!!
Thanks! It sometimes feels like an easter egg hunt trying to find all the features. 😂 This is an "interesting" show with COVID-19, but we're trying our best to explore safely. 👍 -Howard
Luv it!! looking forward to the 24C, thanks for video.
Love the set up of this RV! Great overview 👍
Thanks, Elizabeth! The EKKO is definitely a contender for us, and we can't wait to see the 24C floorplan in person. Hopefully soon! 👍 -Howard
REALLY smart the way they did the wall for the bathroom!😲😁
Isn't it an awesome way to save space?! I know some Euro RVs already have that design, but so glad to see Winnebago bringing it to the US and Canada. 👍 Thanks so much for watching! -Howard
Awesome I like the 23C just a little more room! 👍
Hopefully we'll see the bigger floorplan built in the future! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
You guys..... that was one of the best RV review videos I have seen. I have watched 3 on the Ekko now and yours was the very best. Smooth flowing and you got so much info covered in this video. I can't wait to see the 24C one you do. That is the RV I am really interested in. Living in Canada and having to be back after 6 months away and hitting freezing temps still, this Ekko is my choice for an RV. So do you think the 24C will be a little easier to drive for you because the Ekko is narrower than the View/Navion or would it be basically the same? I love your Navion because it suits the 5 of you and you have made it yours. Enjoy the rest of the show.
Hi Susie! Wow, thank you SO much for the compliment! That means the world to us. We wanted to cover as much as we could and also keep it exciting and fast-paced. We're REALLY excited to see the 24C! That definitely makes sense on why you would like it too! It is narrower and a little shorter, so it might be more nimble to drive but our Navion drives really well too! Part of why were interested in the 24C is because of the additional capabilities it would give us for boondocking. Don't get us wrong, we looove our Navion and this has been the best rig for all 5 of us, we agree with you there! ☺️ We'll know a lot more once we're able to see the 24c, for sure! Thanks again for your kind words ♥️ and always supporting us! -Katelyn
hey hey hey, saw you meeting "Traveling Robert" .... Great video as always. I can see you 5 running around in Europe in this!
Cindy, it was so great to finally meetup with Robert! We are still very early in the planning phase for Europe, and very TBD if we will be able to easily bring any US RV over with us (there is a list of logistics we are working through, and we are also in parallel researching RV options in Europe). However, we are definitely fans of the new EKKO and hope to see the 24C floorplan soon! Thanks so much for watching, we're so glad you're along for the journey. -Howard
I didn't read all the comments so if already noted I apologize. On our View 19D the Maxxair fan is a model 8501K which does not include in/out fan direction. In fact the spec sheet does not indicate a remote even though we have one. Anyway, great video. Love watching you guys! Stay safe.
Terry, I'm sure we have the same one on our Navion 19D, and you're right it is exhaust only (with remote). I've asked about this and it seems like the OEM version sold to Winnebago doesn't have the ability to switch directions, but if you buy the retail version you CAN! Fingers crossed that Winnebago switches to the in/out version, would be a great benefit to us (and sounds like you as well). As always, thanks for watching! 👍 -Howard
Looks like an awesome rig and a true 4 season - If true that's a home run. Winnebago is poised to dominate this class for a long time.
Doug, there is a lot we like about the EKKO, and couldn't agree more! It will be VERY interesting to compare the 24C floorplan, could make a tough decision for a lot of people. 👍 -Howard
nicely done/ great info.....Happy Trails
Thanks, Robin! We appreciate Winnebago giving us the special opportunity. Glad you enjoyed it! -Howard
I love it. Wish I could buy one right now. Am ready to travel.
I love the huge garage to store bikes chairs and table etc inside. We are not ready yet to buy but we will consider the ekko Ford gas You guys did a terrific presentation.
Diana, thanks so much! There's a lot to like in the EKKO. 👍 -Howard
Those windows are really nice! Great review! Thanks for sharing! ~ Shion and Matthew
Yes! We love that style of windows, and they're also now available on the View/Navions. Shion and Matthew, thanks for watching! 👍 -Howard
Great review, love your quick & snappy style! Liked & Subscribed!
Tom, thanks so much! Love hearing that and glad you're along for the journey! 👍 -Howard
Really really like everything about that Ekko. I fit in the bed (6’3”) and shower. Toilet is a little tight but workable. Such a cool coach.
It's such a cool rig, they've done some really impressive work with it! Have you gotten a chance to check it out in person yet!? The bed is surprisingly comfy and roomy!
@@NewstateNomads yup this morning. I was impressed.
@@Thesaltymedic36 message us and let us know if you're coming back to the show again this week!
Very well thought out RV. In our top 5
James, there's a lot to like in the EKKO! Now, between the 22A and the 24C? That's a tough one for us at least. Have you looked at both floorplans online? -Howard
@@NewstateNomads We have looked so many RVs I could not be sure. My wife is heading up the search for our perfect RV.
Great seeing both of you on Traveling Robert, hopefully you will gain a few more subscribers.
Hi Jesse! Thanks so much, it was so neat to run into him here!
I'd like to see them install a flush mount sink, and give you the option of choosing an induction cooktop if you don't want the propane. And it definitely needs a convection microwave. I like what Thor is doing, offering a dual cooking set-up with one propane burner, and one induction unit, side by side. I know that an induction top is an easy after market purchase, but in such a small rig storage will always be at a premium, so having one installed at the factory would be a nice option.
Mark, thanks for watching, and great points! I know Winnebago offers the dual cooktop set you mentioned (induction and propane) on the new View/Navions. Just between our model year (2019) and the new 2021 Navion, there have been several improvements. Wouldn't be surprised if you saw it come to the EKKO as well. 👍 -Howard
Loved the review. I really liked the magical shower,that’s what I call it.lol. Definitely loved that this RV is up for any kind of weather. Great storage,but I would want more floor space.
That's a GREAT name for it! ✨🚽🚿✨ From a boondocking standpoint, it's amazing! We're really anxious to see the EKKO with the slide out, hoping that will help with the floor space issue for us! 🤞☺️
I think you're right... not enough floor space for all the pups & you two too! The one with the slide sounds like a better option. 😊
Thanks, Carol, we can't wait to hopefully see the 24C floorplan in person soon! Really digging the slide idea with the kitchen. 👍 -Howard
Cool rig. Me personally would prefer the sprinter chassis
It is interesting going with the Ford Transit chassis, since I think the EKKO would be the only Winnebago built on it. Maybe it was the variety itself paired with gas powered AWD that was the appeal to the Winnebago team? Thanks for watching! -Howard
Neat little rig! Nicely done video. Definitely don’t see how y’all could manage full time travel with 3 Doggos WITHOUT going crazy! 🤣 but I suppose it could make for great content! ☺️
Thanks so much! It would definitely be a challenge in this floorplan, but entertaining indeed 😂 we're really excited to see the 24C with the slide! -Katelyn
Hahaha, it's always an adventure around here with all the doggos! There is a difference with energy levels of the puggles vs Scout, and that helps. Scout really enjoys long hikes, Piper really enjoys alone time with sleep. 😂 Thanks so much for watching, really glad you enjoyed the tour! -Howard
@@NewstateNomads I’m curious how you guys feel about the 24C! So many pros and cons in these rigs!
The different Doggo personalities definitely helps with the lifestyle. So thankful for the lazy dogs and the adventure one as well. Some to hold down the fort and Scout to watch your back while hiking ☺️ - Amber
That gets my vote for the absolute best designed compact bathroom - very innovative! Curious about the cassette toilet since I’ve never used one.... Great review!
The bathroom is popular in Europe which is where Winnebago got the concept. Hats off to Winnebago for Having the courage to take something from Europe to the United States
Thanks, Panhandle, glad the video was helpful, and hats off to you Earl for chiming in about the Euro style bathrooms!
Would be really nice if they had a built in air compressor in the garage for inflatable SUPs, kayaks, etc.
@@MysticMaven that's a great idea! Would be easy enough to add, since there's both 12v and 110AC in the rear storage area. 👍 -Howard
We own a motorhome in France and it has a cassette toilet. I really miss the huge black water tank we had in our Itasca Navion 24j. Like this Ekko, our motorhome has a garage at the back (the French call it “soute”) and it is great, we love it.
I look forward to see the 24C floor plan. We also have 2 dogs and like more living space. The 24C might very well be our next purchase after we are done RVing in Europe. The idea of a real 4 seasons coach is interesting. We live in Quebec and have not even travelled across our own country yet. Because of the pandemic, we won’t be able to go to France in April and May as planned. So we are thinking about buying an RV and go to the Rockies instead. We found a 2019 View 24D juste like yours near our place. It only has 6000 km! I discovered you when I was looking for reviews on this model. I love watching all your videos. Should we make an offer on this RV ? Tough decision......This pandemic is really annoying.
Keep up the good work, very inspiring!
Helene, such a tough decision for both of us! The challenge I believe is the different features and purpose of the View vs EKKO. I believe with the EKKO Winnebago is trying to enable colder, more remote exploration. The features support that concept, including the All wheel drive chassis. The View/Navions for us are truly a home on wheels with all the amenities. Spacious, high end finishes and features. We kind of push our Navion to the limit of it's design, particularly in the rugged environments we camped in this summer. That's why the EKKO is such an appealing option! Hard to choose! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
This is one cool RV. Just saw your video on the Journey. Really nice RV. You guys did great.
Hi JD! Isn't it?! It has so many amazing features that really raise the bar for Class C boondocking. Awww thank you! Touring the Journey was such a treat, that's a gorgeous coach! -Katelyn
I have s-ent a lot of time overseas. I recommend you find something less wide with slide outs and the ability to hit decent highways speeds. It will make your life easier. For what it is worth. Great video.
Michael, great points and appreciate the overseas perspective! Do they have narrow motorhomes in Europe with slides? -Howard
Great review guys! I've stolen plenty of ideas for RV! I love that rear corner awning! And we're definetly going to look at getting some of those fake rocks too! Miss you guys! Andy&L
Thanks guys! Haha the fake rocks really make the whole look come together. 😂 Yesss, that back corner awning is super sweet! Miss y'all too!! ♥️
Congrats to Winnebago! This is going to be a game changer. Add a hammock under the bat wing, and I’m there. You’d better ramp up your production.
Gregorio, I agree and think this will be a very successful new line for Winnebago! With all that storage in the back, I wonder if there's a collapsible hammock stand you could bring with you? Thanks for watching, hope you'll continue on the journey with us! 👍 -Howard
Really like the bath.
Allen, we do, too! Surprised us, but such a great use of space. Thanks for watching! 👍 -Howard
Question: when the extra pillow is installed to make a bigger bed, it looks a lot taller than the normal beds. Is it?
Muy buen review ,saludos desde pachuca hgo mex. Espero verlos por aca en mi pais pronto.
Love the bathroom!
Yes! That sliding wall is such a game changer on space in smaller RVs! 👍 -Howard
best ekko reviews👍
Thanks so much! -Howard
@@NewstateNomads cant wait to see u fill that rv with ur stuff and 3 dogs😁
Excellent review guys.
Thank you so much! It's a really cool RV! ☺️
That was a fabulous RV tour. I'm almost convinced I'd like to swap my apartment for the RV lifestyle, only hubby isn't. Never mind. I'll just keep traveling with you guys. For a space perspective and taking the 3 other tenants into account I'd go for the more spacious model. I'm assuming that, in Europe, you'll have a small vehicle with you to travel locally like you do now. As the roads aren't all that wide and spacious as in the states. But you guys are the experts so I am sure your decisions will be based on previous experience. Happy travels. Can't wait to see what you ultimately decide on. Keep safe and keep smiling. 👍 🎥 🚍❤️🌷🙋♀️
Excellent Review!
Thanks so much, Brandon! 👍 -Howard
Wow the Ekko has lots of storage and tech upgrades! I wonder if it's possible to lock all those outside hatches.
Mark, it does have a lot of storage! To answer, yes, all the hatches we saw had locking handles. Additionally, as you twisted the handle, it would pull the door tight against the gaskets, helping with weatherproofing. Can't wait to see the EKKO out and about. Thanks for watching, hope you'll continue on the journey with us! 👍 -Howard
Good vid.
Residual moisture after shower behind the rotating wall in the bathroom can easily grow mold....
It's a great point. I do recall in conversation with the Winnebago team a mention of specific materials for the wall that inhibit mold growth, but can't remember the specifics. Might be also mentioned in the Fit RV video (link in our description) or some of their articles on their site. Thanks for watching! -Howard
That RV has your names on it, I can see an upgrade in your future.
We wouldn't complain if your prediction came true!! 😂👍 -Howard
It's awesome !!! I wonder why they only have (1) prototype ...... I mean wouldn't it be good to have a few of these out testing to see how they work and hold up before finalizing everything ?
Rob, just saw your comment. From what we understand, Winnebago builds the prototype by hand with the design team. Then another phase of builds occur for further testing and production planning. Finally, after it passes testing in this second phase do they start production on the assembly line for customer deliveries. The prototype has already had modifications (like a different window in the galley) and they are continuing to refine the design even as we speak! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
So if you were to commit to an EKKO in the future do you think you’d end up with the 22A or the 24C? Another nice thing about the C is the black water tank. How do you feel about the cassette toilet in general? It seems like it would have to be dumped a lot more frequently. Also, would you opt to keep the awning with the led lights? We love using ours personally in the Fuse.
Michelle you bring up a lot of great points and questions on this one, it would be hard to choose between the two floorplans! The 24C with the slide seems to have the edge on floorspace and a traditional black tank. The 22A has the external kitchen and pop-top options. We're, uh, kinda torn here. 😂 -Howard
@@NewstateNomads oh my! I didn’t know the external kitchen was only on the 22A! Darn! And I’d need to see a video of the pop top to see what it’s all about.
Excellent!
Glad you enjoyed it! -Howard
Thank you for your video, two questions:
- If you are headed to Europe with this EKKO, how easy is it to transport it to Europe, how and how long to get it to Europe and one way cost? Any refitting needed to meet Europe regulations?
- The bathroom divider wall, after you shower, bathroom is wet, bringing wall back to use the toilette, now you have a sealed wet area behind that wall, any concern for mold, bacteria growth, etc?
Great points and questions!
We're still researching a couple of shipping companies, but no refitting is needed if it is a TEMPORARY import (meaning keeping the US plates on the RV and no more than 6 months inside the EU every 12 months).
The divider wall isn't completely sealed, there's a gap of at least 1" when it is up against the shower enclosure side. I also recall, but can't find anything on the Winnebago site specifically about the divider wall materials and their robustness against mold/bacteria. During a conversation with the Winnebago team, it was mentioned that they believed it had resistance to the above, but again, I'll try and get some more info about that.
Thanks so much for watching, hope you'll continue on the journey with us! 👍 -Howard
@@NewstateNomads THANK YOU!
EKKO is the bomb
We're VERY interested. Hopefully we can see the 24C floorplan soon to compare! -Howard
That Frolee (sp?) sleeper system looks awesome! What’s it for exactly? It looks like it would be great for air ventilation and preventing mold! We had issues under our bed this winter with mold.
Froli is a support system, kind of like a box spring on your home mattress, but I would imagine it would also help with moisture under the mattress, too! I'll ask when we are back at the show today. 👍 -Howard
That Froli system is frequently used in German vans and Rvs. Best for air ventilation AND your back! But you have to choose the right mattress with it.
Just ordered a 24C with extra batteries and still keeping the generator (dealer-installed opt.). Great for off-grid.
Russel, very interesting! What made you decide to add back the generator instead of relying on the second alternator, solar, etc? -Howard
@@NewstateNomads Don`t wish to have to idle the vehicle that much especially when the sun doesn't always shine. Plus more back-up. It pulls off the fuel tank and I will do a lot of off-grid. Living in Germany now and will return to the US in August/September to pick up the EKKO 24C. Really like the European type of design. Vans (Wohnmobil) type B is very popular here because the roads are smaller and easier to get around in the cities. My nephew and I followed the Tour de France in 2019 in his Wohnmobil. Your wife and you did a very good review on the EKKO and pointed out the main points. Good luck with your European trip.
@@russellramey45 What about putting a booster in instead of having a generator here in Germany/Europe? I had a Büttner booster built in my Hymer van (2013), so my 220Ah AGM- batteries (usable c. 50%) are always full. Well, I drive around a lot and do not stay more than 2 - 3 days in one (official) place - Stellplatz. Boondocking is becoming more and more impossible/illegal anyways.
@@russellramey45 I'm with you Russell. I'd add battery and keep genny. I live in the south near Houston and the AC is a must have. You'd need that gen to take the air cond load off of the 2nd alternator so it could recharge batteries after running the AC for a short night stop when traveling. Even with 2 of those batteries, the AC would deplete them in 5 to 6 hours in the weather we have down here. ACs run most all of the time. I'm judging this from RVs I normally see down here and hopefully this Ekko has some better insulation. It appears as though it does. I'm sure we'll learn more as W start to build them and they start to hit the road. But this thing is totally awesome!
Bathroom is the best part of the rig.
It's a fantastic design, great use of space! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
did they mention this is also an AWD vehicle?
Winnebago finally is picking up some design ideas from the europiums. If you were to buy the RV and go to Europe, ever think of buying the RV in Europe, tour Europe ( and Asia?), then ship the RV back to US as used. This may save you some money as well. If you like the design style of Ekko, I think you will love the RVs made in Europe.
All options are on the table right now for Europe. We'd love to ship our RV home over there are explore, but there are logistics issues both with our and a new Euro one (including permanent modifications) if we were to bring one back to the US. We're very in the research phase, definitely appreciate your thoughts on it! Thanks for watching. 👍 -Howard
My favorite,wish I could afford it.
Is the battery setup more along the lines of a Battle Born style or more of an automotive design the EV's use?
Apologies, we didn't really look too deeply at the battery compartment, maybe take a look at the tour link in the description by The Fit RV? I know they are heated, and definitely appear in a long slender plastic housing, but that's about as far as I can tell you. 😂 Thanks for watching! -Howard
Definitely a cool little motorhome
Agreed, Denny! There are a lot of pros to this RV. Thanks so much for watching our review! -Katelyn
Nice one
Thanks for watching! -Howard
Seen one in person. It's really great. Just feel like they barely missed the mark of perfect. "In my opinion," if it were on the Mercedes (much more comfort), and lifted, it would have been a world better. Now if it were a Diesel Mercedes 4x4 rather than AWD with optional lift, it would be literal perfection without being fully custom.
Yes, I understand the price vs what is being provided. Still a big win for Winnebago.
I'm excited to see one in person. We have a 2017 Navion 24J and really love it. Without a doubt, Winnebago has some of the finest engineers and Innovative creators in the RV business. However, their installers are at best average and in my opinion below-average. Specifically the wiring system is just slopped together in my Winnebago. For example, we were having dc power outage issues. Fortunately I troubleshot to loose main DC cable connector on circuit breaker underneath the passenger seat. It arced so severely burned up the 2 circuit breakers. As a systems engineer, their quality assurance is almost non-existent for the installers. So my fear is the Ekko has everything going for it . But the installers I fear will causes the Ekko to be a headache for Winnebago 1st couple of years. There is so much behind the walls the troubleshooting will be a nightmare.
Earl, sorry to hear about your trouble with the electrical on your Navion. Were you able to get it resolved? -Howard
@@NewstateNomads No, I'm an old aviation electrician so not worth the down time to fix under extended warranty. Since we were muchdocking for 4 months, I troubleshot & fixed. During troubleshooting process of opening up passenger's seat and wiring under corner bed, I discovered 3 ganged relays dangling not attached to relay plate under seat because the installer miss routed the massive wire bundles, additionally, the installer severely bent the wire terminals attached to circuit breakers resulting over time loose connection. Under the bed, the installer again missrouted so badly there is no fix sort of rewiring; however, the wiring under bed is electrically sound just makes winterizing the Truma valves very hard to both find and operate. Winnebago tech center awesome! ! Sent me schematics...made the job very easy. Winnebago engineers, customer service, and Technical help could not be better. They are outstanding . just too bad the installers are more like the old Detroit assembly lines who are just there for a paycheck.
I cant wait for the 24C to come out. i hope its a 4x4(awd) also.
Michael, thanks for watching, and great point! I can confirm that the 24C is on the same AWD Ford Transit chassis as the 22A, and we also can't wait for it to come out! 👍 -Howard
Was there last year! Can you do me a huge virus favor and go to Newmar and do a video of any model of the Bay Star (if they have the 3401 that would be over the top). Many people also like to see some of the diesels too:) Have fun and thanks so much!
So what sheets would you even try attempt to make that bed with? Our Travato 59G is hard enough . Great video. Your arent quite as annoying as fit rv . 👍
Gilbert, thanks so much, glad you enjoyed our episode! Funny story about the sheets, we keep getting conflicting answers, and honestly I know it is because the EKKO is still in prototype phase. Best case scenario, one member of Team Winnebago told us a set of the fitted sheets could be included as part of the overall "WinnSleep" system of new mattresses in the EKKO. Presuming further, I would imagine you could order more sets. Given Winnebago makes all their own soft goods (the StitchCraft division of the company), this doesn't sound outside the realm of possibility, but I WILL followup to see if I can get an absolute thumbs up or down. 👍 -Howard
Saw you guys in traveling Roberts live stream today.
It was so fun to run into him! 🙂
The 24 would be perfect for you all
Kevin, you're right! Hopefully we can all see the 24C in real life, but from the floorplan alone we're definitely interested. Thanks for watching! 👍 -Howard
Interesting perspective coming from Full-timers. Please review the other model when it’s available and whether that would fit your needs better.
Hi Avery! Thanks so much, we definitely want to look at it with full-timing in mind. We're super excited to tour the EKKO 24C soon and we'll definitely let you know our thoughts! What do you think of this floorplan? Thanks so much for watching. -Katelyn
Any idea on pricing?
MSRP on the Winnebago site says $163,000 but that can vary widely by dealer and area. -Howard
Awesome
Thanks for watching! -Howard
Cool rv. I agree would like to see the slide. Also pricing ????
Hi Ed! We agree, we can't wait to see the floor plan with the slide. I think that will make a big difference. MSRP is $163K, but that's recommended pricing and can always vary by dealer and location. Thanks for watching! :) -Katelyn
@@NewstateNomads New to RV but retirement and recently widowed...I've been researching for months for a great match for my needs. I've learned as with pretty much anything in life, there's a broad range of pricing for any item and with the lesser priced items come the headaches from all the posts I've read. Cheaper RV comes with needs for repairs & services almost immediately once on the road.
Do you feel that paying more for an RV than a brick/mortar home costs...you get peace of mind with a solid vehicle that's not a burden?
Curious how the plumbing/water lines are done. I don't see any UA-camrs ever showing the downside. Winnebago has been using white flexible hose with pex fitting in numerous coaches. That hose and fitting combo creates leaks. No one ever talks about it but major leaks on many Winnebago models including your 2019 24D. Any thoughts on this? They are still using the same pipes in certain areas in their 2021 model. A 1 year warranty doesn't do much when those leaks pop up after a year.
All the plumbing is internal to the coach on the EKKO to help with low temp performance (and avoid freezing anything), but as a result almost none of it is visible unless we pull some drawers. Interesting you mention leaks, we've had ZERO problems on our 19 24D with 2.5 years of fulltime usage. Do you know or can point to sites/threads that show specific spots where these leaks have occurred for others? Is it maybe where the white hoses meet the pex? -Howard
Cost range?
Will you be shipping an RV from the U.S. over to Europe and back, or are you planning to rent or buy an RV once you get to Europe?
I live in Alsace, on the French/German border, and innovative quality built RVs and Vans are much cheaper in Europe than they are in the U.S..
You can buy a great Van in Europe for between 40,000 to 65,000 € ($45-$70,000).
Michael, this is still very up in the air. We would love to ship our RV over, but there's a lot involved in that. It might in the end make more sense to find one in Europe. Separately we would LOVE to pick your brain on recommendations for our trip. Can you message us on IG or FB? Thanks so much for watching! -Howard
Nice, but... I think I would hate the cassette toilet. Could you really boondock for a week with that toilet? Also, how do you possibly put sheets on the bed? Maybe I'm missing something?
Hey Marty! That's definitely a great question... We have no idea about the cassette toilet 😂 we would need to learn that for sure. That's also a great follow up question for Winnebago, we'll ask about the sheets! The prototype had a set of really soft, comfy fitted sheets on the bed already, so maybe that's the plan? We'll let you know what we find out. Good ❓'s! ☺️ -Katelyn
ONE cassette is definitely not sufficient even if you are camping alone. But nobody prevents you from having a second one in the storage space, as most people have (if they need so). Besides, e.g. the Thetford cassette can be ordered with a ventilation system, or you can have a separate one installed (SOG) in Germany (www.sog-systeme.de/?lang=en)
I love almost everything about it. Thanks for the review.
The cassette toilet is a deal breaker for me. With 50 gallon gray water capacity, I would prefer it split to accommodate a black water tank. If you’re having to dump gray water, why not black? I would also love to see the induction/propane cooktop.
Also, I love the shower solution but I would feel a little claustrophobic, can Winnebago either make a small window high up or have the door not go to the ceiling.
Esther, lots of great points, thanks for watching! It will be interesting if we get to see the other 24C floorplan soon to compare. It has a separate shower, and a traditional black tank which might be more to yours and our liking. There are definitely pros to each of the floorplans! -Howard
Cost?
How many cassettes does it come with? 50 gallons of grey is great but 5 gallons of black? ... sounds like a lot of day trips to the nearest rest stop with cassette in hand. Otherwise, I like it, but that would be the deal breaker for me.
Bob, it's a great question and point about the cassette. Based on conversations with the Winnebago team in Tampa, it's comes with ONE cassette, but dealers CAN order more for you. The manufacturer apparently doesn't sell direct to consumer, so you need a dealer to complete the order for you. I also know Revel owners who have multiple cassettes and swap them out until they can take them to be emptied. Hope that helps! -Howard
Hello
My question has to do with the drawer construction. Are they still using staples? (The main reason I vowed to never buy winnebago again) Also that strap in the front large cabinet. I know th purpose is to stop sagging but it l think it looks tacky
It's a good question, and we didn't check the drawer sides. I will say on our 2019 Winnebago Navion 24D, if the drawers are built with staples, they've held up just fine in over two years of full-time living. Thanks for watching. -Howard
Well done!!! Hope you check out Leisure Van and do a review as well!
Thanks! We responded elsewhere, but this show is harder than usual because 1- COVID-19 and 2- Media Day was cancelled. Thanks to our relationship with Winnebago, we CAN visit their displays early and late which makes it easier to film reviews. I can only promise we'll try! -Howard
I’ve heard that Leisure and other Canadian companies won’t be there.
WOW!!!
That's what we said too, Carolyn! 👍 -Howard
HOW MUCH FOR THIS NICE INNOVATIVE EKKO? IF NOT OVERPRICED IM IN ✌🏻
Make sure you have an Arctic upgrade
Love it except for the cassette toilet. 5 gallons?? Don’t want to dump every couple of days and have to deal with the weight and visually and olfactory proximity to the waste.
Hahaha I never knew the cassette toilets we're so polarizing until we made this review! No one is in the middle on the subject, but I'm going to wait until I can try it myself on a coach before making a decision. 😂 Thanks for watching, David, and hope you'll continue on the journey with us. 👍 -Howard
Winnebago is obviously listening! How did you feel the overall quality level was at?
John, we can personally attest that they DEFINITELY listen to customers and of course the build quality of our Navion. I think It's a little too early to judge on the prototype EKKO (there are some obvious components that have already been changed out, a different bathroom sink, slightly different lighting in bedroom, the trim around one of the windows isn't fitted right now as they are now testing a different window in the galley, colors are mismatched from testing and evaluation of materials, etc), but I do believe it will be a tight build in production. This is shaping up to be a killer off-grid RV and great compliment to the rest of the line. 👍 -Howard
I recommend that you guys take the Navion to Europe, puppies space is going to be critical.
The floorspace is definitely a big factor for us! The pups need room! 🤗❤ -Katelyn
@@NewstateNomads trust me we know, we have 2 labs (chocolate/yellow) and we take them everywhere, they need their space. Looking forward to future videos. Take care be safe- Ivan
@@ijblessjourney thanks, Ivan! ❤️
with all that electrical power why not an induction stove, gas causes added humidity inside.
Peter, I wouldn't be surprised if they update the cooktop to a combo induction/propane unit like in the View/Navions. Gives the best of both worlds. 👍 -Howard
It must be hard to Boondocks for a few days when you only have a 5 gal cassette toilet. That’s only my drawback.
Joseph, great point. We don't have any experience with the cassette toilets, but do know people who have ordered multiple cassettes to extend their time Boondocking (we know people with Revels that use a similar if not the same cassette as the EKKO). For us, the challenge has been freshwater capacity when Boondocking, but it didn't stop us from 125 straight days of free camping in 2020. 👍 -Howard
@@NewstateNomads good to know. Thanks and be safe always!
price
Hi Ricardo, pricing varies based on options and packages and is all available on the Winnebago website. Thanks for watching! -Howard www.winnebago.com/models/product/motorhomes-and-towables/motorhomes/class-c/ekko
Many of the features were taken from European vans
Lots and lots of Euro features and style in this one, mixed with rugged for rougher terrain exploring. It's an interesting combo! Thanks for watching, Michael. 👍 -Howard
Been catching up on these EKKO previews and this sad part is Winnebago decided to drop the black tank on these. Don't get me wrong on cassette, they're great systems, but not everyone wants to "dump their business" by hand ;)
Can you pull your car with this?
Deanna, yes we should be able to pull a tow car! Remember, preliminary numbers since it's a prototype, but a car under 4,000lbs should work just fine (bonus if it has a built-in picnic table 😂). 👍 -Howard