The Meta Of Dream's Face Reveal
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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Xisuma talks about Dream's face reveal and the reactions that followed.
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0:00 Xisuma's thoughts on Dream's face reveal
1:00 The audience's reaction
4:29 Putting content creators on a pedestal
6:14 Lack of maturity online
7:47 Wait for it...
#xisumasays #dream #dreamfacereveal - Ігри
We all know that Xiaumas face is scarred, cut and burned from all the wars he’s fought both in the Hermit-craft server and against the demons from hell.
*scarred. Scared means to be afraid. It's an emotion. You're scared of ghosts, of thunder etc. When you have scars from injuries, you're scarred.
@@JonVonBasslake I'm sure his face is scared and scarred?
doomguy.
Pretty sure his face's changing every season
@@JonVonBasslake Bit condescending, we know what scared means, he likely just missed an R.
I remember when 5up did his face reveal, it was more because he acknowledged that as a growing streamer eventually people would glorify his face reveal to a problematic extent. He just did it quickly and inconspicuously and moved on. It really sucks that people are being forced to do that in todays day and age, streamers should have privacy and anonymity if they want it.
It's crazy, I've been around since the early age of the internet. The internet used to be about anonymity. People's identity was a username and profile pic. I don't get this obsession of people wanting to see what everyone looks like.
I personally like how technoblade did his face reveal (RIP). His face is out there if people want to see it but he never made a big deal out of it and made all his content focused on his personality and skill. If he did reveal his face in videos it was just there instead of something he fervently keeps secret.
@@humourlessjester3584 I don’t really agree with the last bit of this take. Dream was definitely not forced into having a face reveal. He definitely milked the shit out of it, having famous content creators react to him face timing them. I mean it did well, he was trending for the week but I feel its a dumb thing to do.
@@yikaii I hear you, but I didn't mention Dream anywhere in my comment.
@@humourlessjester3584 I think he meant to reply to the person on top of you.
I think that it would be hilarious if X did one of his typical "face reveals" except that after pulling off his screaming masks there is a green screen mask underneath (idk if that is what is supposed to be used) and he edits it so that it looks like Rick Astley and he just Rick Rolls us all because X is never gonna let us down when it comes to his wonderful trolling
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@eyk026 lol
I bet the person who said “are you jealous” doesn’t watch Xisuma’s guitar videos. If you have, you would know he’s BUFF
Being buff doesn’t make you anti jealousy, having a good family or support system as well as self confidence and being secure with yourself can lead you down to a path in that direction. Being able to feel and talk with your emotions as well can make this happen.
hello i am that person and i said as an ironic joke but it wasn't successful. i know he isn't a type of person to be jealous of this, in fact the EXACT opposite like it's the last thing you'd expect and his reaction is the proof of that. but my "joke" failed on many parts and i am embarrassed lol.
i was thinking like "haha you are jealous" and something like "if only someone had 999 million derp coins" and more from there which would be funny in my opinion. but it backfired and i made a mess
@@ardnys35 text communication is rough. Being edgy doesn’t always come out as edgy, it’s a fine line for sure!
@@ardnys35 Yea X's chat is more civil than that haha
Buffsuma
I WASNT EXPECTING THE "Are you jealous?" But srs X, I think your thoughts on this topic are interesting and perfectly reasonable
yeah sorry about that :/
@@ardnys35 did you ask if he was jealous?
@@vasilystepin7620 Probably. Nobody would say "sorry for that" if it wasn't their doing. That or theyre taking credit. But it being their doing seems more likely.
@@vasilystepin7620 yep. also i have a comment explaining it. spoiler alert: i wasn't seriously asking if he was jealous
He said nothing, his opinion is not having an opinion probably because of social pressure, is notable how he struggles to think something that will not upset someone
I think it's cool that he can go forward with his content in a free way, doing more irl stuff as he wishes. I think it was a good decision. As far as his physical appearance, I think people are being silly. It is probably a bit hurtful on his part, but he must have some good resolve against unfair criticism at this point (not that there isn't fair criticism)
he said the fbi contacted him at one point because of threats on his life, they were being dead serious, but hes so desensitized to it he was just laughing about it
@@fyre_hazaard6083 occupational hazard i suppose :/ sad
Unless of course thats not his real face, that way itll just complicate things more
@@mumtrz pulling an ethan hunt mission impossible aye?
@@bluepiggaming204 exactly, I think its a real possibility too with todays AI Deepfake and other fancy shizz
"Jealousy has no use for me." I think Xisuma is an AI after all.
"This voice is not generated by an AI" That's just what we expect the robots to say! In all seriousness X, good on you for being an excellent example of humanity, keep up the good vibes man :p
"Don't hang up. This is not a recording."
Wait what? I thought this X character is an AI.
This vocal content has been generated by Grumbot
We only know you as a disembodied voice, and you know what, I think you are a great disembodied voice that makes awesome and wholesome content, and that is good enough for me.
At this point i think he should stay a disembodied voice
Nah he's a bodied and a jacked body as well
@@urbanfrog Same. I hope he doesn’t do a face reveal
@@echothefreak9396 I mean, he can do what Techno did
@@echothefreak9396 techno has done a face reveal before his demise, or really just content with his face. I would think though that he just didn't have a facecam because they are cringe
hey um i said "are you jealous" as an ironic joke because i knew you are the last person to do that but it seems it didn't come off like that. i still think it is funny as a joke but if you don't find it funny i apologise.
it's a bit like doodling a silly dog and showing it to your friends and be like "you are jealous of my outstanding drawing skills aren't you" which is my regular joke pattern. it doesn't work that well in a twitch chat and sorry for learning it in a bad way.
i need to get this out so there it is.
Tone indicators help with this! using a /j makes sure people know it's a joke even over text messages, where intonation and intent are often not clear if you don't know the person well
@@kasperbuyens3562 i see it a lot but i never used it or needed it. now that i made a mess i have to make it a habit lol /s
@@ardnys35 I generally type little faces or use emojis for tone, though still not as clear as /s or /j I suppose...
Though hey, if it makes you feel any better, when I saw the first few seconds of this video I did think it was a joke.
Hey man it happens you're good
With X and Etho, the "no face" vibe, was a learning curve for me - Now, even other creators who' show their faces, I intentionally try to avoid, it cause it's so much better knowing them as their avatar not some person behind the computer.
That's why, for creators like Tango - I don't enjoy seeing their streams, it's weird for me to look at the human
Yea I’m so used to associating their skins with their voice. When I see a real person with their voice, it kinda gives me some small whiplash.
@@starlightrai grian looks like his skin so it’s not a huge shock but for everyone else it’s strange
@@dosne975 Especially Scar for me, I actually didn't know he was disabled because it has not importance to his content at all
Dream SEEMS to be human. That's all we can tell from his face reveal. As far as Xisuma, I've seen his shoulder/arm reveal, and that's satisfying enough for me. (*chef's kiss)
X for me, will always be the scream mask playing guitar.
This is kinda how Techno's community reacted to his glorious elbow reveal, haha
BAHAHAHAHAHA
3:30 I think it’s just the natural curiosity of humanity haha, we just need to put a face to a voice
You said dyspraxic, and it literally brought tears to my eyes. Its a struggle my son faces every day, knowing one of his favorite creators has it may help him feel its more of a “normal” issue. Great on you for playing the guitar, Im sure the apraxia makes it an extra layer of challenging!
I love how you look at things, I find myself just nodding my head in agreement at basically everything you say in these videos.
I think a lot of "dream is ugly" comments comes from people who just didn't like the man, or his fanbase to begin with. I can see where they're coming from as there are a lot of bad apples in that community and Dream and his friends haven't done much to try and quell them. But it's absolutely not fair to hate on him or his fanbase as a whole.
Dream managed to hype up his face reveal as a big event and many of his fans enjoyed it. No need to stomp on their fun.
Yeah, I had to google it because I really don't care but I wanted context. And the conclusion I came to was meh, it's a face. Can't speak on attractiveness because I'm always baffled by peoples tastes anyway. But he's not covered in warts or weirdly proportioned or anything that makes me think "that's why they're saying ugly". So I've come to the same basic conclusion of haters gonna hate.
Myself, I'm in the DGAFs gonna not GAF boat.
Yea I think its from the people who either call him ugly for the sake of hating, or people in his fanbase that have really high expectations. I think this all roots to twitter so xD
I was gonna give my in depth analysis of the culture surrounding Dream’s fans and haters and how it’s magnified by his avatar/skin…
But it really is so accurate to just say “twitter things”
I mean, I don't really like him, and I cannot STAND his fanbase, but I thought the face reveal video was funny, and my reaction was "No wonder he didn't want to reveal, he's so pretty that all those crazy girls in his fandom are gonna go extra nuts!"
Even if Dream was the most attractive man on earth, people will shit on him regardless.
As someone who doesn’t like Dream, I don’t find him ugly but I just find it amusing that he hyped him, his friends and fans up for the face reveal only to look average lol
I was just enjoying the saga of his fake face reveals, and was fully expecting another fake one. Some of them were super creative. (The one with Tommy with Dream’s voice overlayed was a really good prank idea).
Grian had some interesting insight about how people have responded to his looks on Pixlriffs’ podcast ‘the spawn chunks’ last year. Personally I really admire the foresight of those like X and Etho who are wise enough to avoid it.
None of you will ever be as handsome as b-dubs, why even try?
The thing about Dream face revealing though is that he was ALREADY in the position where hundreds of thousands of people were sending him hate and stuff, so he is entirely unphased by people commenting on him because that was already a thing from almost the very beginning of his career (arguably even before he started his career). He's said for years that he wasn't going to face reveal until George got to America, and how that he is in the US, Dream face revealed!
Don't worry about the stress and all that, Dream is living his best life, having fun with friends, and even laughing at the jokes made at his expense! He tweeted on his private twitter account that none of it is getting to him and that nothing really changes with regards to his stance on hate (which is that it's all stupid and he genuinely doesn't care) and he posted on snapchat and tiktok playing into the jokes about his chin.
I aspire to be the same level of unbothered that Dream displays, I admire how he's taking all of this in stride.
In whatever way, criticism will always affect you, and even if he displays unbotheredness (is that a word) it might be really bad for his mental health. Unless you're a close friend you can't know
@@jan-lukas True, but he has a strong support group and has said many times to not stress about his mental health with regards to online hatred
Because we aren't his close friends and we don't know, we should follow what he says and listen to him.
Doesn't make the hatred okay, lord knows I rant about it all the time on twitter, but I wouldn't try and say that it's degrading his mental health when he's said he's the happiest he's ever been right now.
There has been times where he has said things that have indicated that online shit got to him, but it was always because they were accusations on his character and threats to his integrity as a person (the speedrun drama, he's described that time as one of the worst periods of his mental health, and some time back in April where he tweeted on a private account that he missed the speedrun drama because the drama back then was much simpler)
Random people being mean about something he was prepared to get hate for for months maybe even years isn't gonna get to him
I really don’t like Dream but I’m impressed with how well he’s taking it considering how angry he would get in the past whenever someone made the mildest of hate replies.
@@smolderiing7166 same. I enjoy some of clutch move, but so much yelling hurt my hears
Someone in mcc said they think Dream feels less scary now because he doesn't feel like a faceless man hunting them down
I just find it really bizarre that so many people care. It seems unhealthy. Faceless or not, the person is a human, just like me. I see so many faces every day. You don't see me losing my mind over it.
I think the intensity of this reaction shows the poor mindset that much of that community has. When I'm watching content made by anyone, I'm thinking "Wow, I really like what this fellow human has made. I'm glad that I get to participate in this community." But I'm not setting up expectations for what they do, because they aren't superior to me, and they shouldn't be accountable to me because I am a stranger. Especially over things like what they look like.
Fans were excited for the face reveal because Dream said himself he would not show his face until his best friend saw him in person. It was an "I'm happy for him" moment because they know he's been waiting nearly a decade for this. They have and will continue to watch him, face or not. The people losing their minds over it are the people who hate him. They're tripping over themselves to insult him for looking like an average person.
Unless they’re AI
I don't know how UA-cam has hyped up face reveals this much that this happened
I would be hyped if x revealed his face
I think there’s something unique about Dream specifically though, because of this massive massive following and the anonymity and iconicity of his green smiley avatar
I speak personally, but I would be more attached to xisuma's community if he revealed his face. I think it's just human to want to put a face to someone you like/follow, humans aren't naturally made to communicate digitally and anonymously.
I agree with most of your thoughts! I think it's a really personal thing. Dream has spoken before about basically not going outside from fear of being recognised with Sapnap, so I'm just glad for him that they can now do that!
I think some of it is brain chemistry stuff. I didn't actively care, but was fascinated by it all. I agree with people who say we try to put a face to a name. It's a normal thing we've always said "oh, it's great to put a face to a name!" Does it mean some of it gets a bit parasocial in this scenario? Probably. Some people just want to find someone/thing to relate to. Others want to use it maliciously.
Hey, I just wanted to say that as small as it was, you mentioning your dyspraxia meant a lot. It affects my everyday life in ways that I have to manage (swallowing was a learned response, for instance), and it's just comforting to hear about other people going through the same sorts of thing; I have to explain to most people what it is and I just never expect to hear other people talk about it. So, thank you for that, really. ❤️
For what it's worth, I know I'm not alone in being quite alright with you, etho, beef, Cleo, and whomever else wants to keep their privacy not revealing their faces.
We’ve seen Beefs face tho.
@@Zhombeee I seem to have confused xb and beef. Xb tweeted a few days ago about valuing his privacy.
There is a very old tweet of ZombieCleo's face. Although she only shown half of her face.
Honestly, Dream is just a person. Another face out there. I remember reading The Little Prince and the part with the fox really stuck out to me, especially now given Dream’s situation:
"To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world....”
Though this would apply both positively and negatively. For me, I’m not as much of a fan of Dream recently as I was in early 2020, but I still am happy for him and his friends. I saw George’s little vlog about them meeting and it was absolutely adorable. I remember how they spoke about wanting to do irl content once Dream and I’m excited that they’re excited. I wish they could just live their lives peacefully but there really are people out there who would attack someone for just existing. I hate it when people (specifically my mother) would go targeting features I hate about myself (I’m 22, 5’2”, and on the rather husky side). My parents constantly target my height (though I’m Asian) and my weight, but would go around calling me beautiful- like wot??? I was born relatively attractive but idk man, a bit of depression hit me hard and I gained a lot of weight during the pandemic. I’m slowly trying to return to my old weight (was a competitive swimmer for a good part of my life) but it’s hard when my parents keep dissing me for trying to diet and keep calling me fat. Hah. So yes, I hate when others would judge people for their looks and especially aren’t afraid to say mean things to their faces. There are people out there tagging or replying to Dream directly and insulting his looks. Man, he’s just a human like all of us.
I hope that you are unique to yourself in all the world, and no outside perspective is necessary - be it fans, foxes or parents. And the same goes for each of us.
I hope you can learn that putting on weight ≠ getting less attractive.
@@AndersWatches Haha, I think it is society that needs to learn that lesson, not them.
@@silverstring9928 are they not a part of society? Besides, they clearly feel like gaining weight has made them less attractive. So yes, they would indeed do well to learn that lesson.
@@AndersWatches They literally said they feel bad because things others say are making them feel bad about it. How do you propose someone "learns" that putting on weight ≠ getting less attractive when attractiveness is determined by society?
there is 1 thing about dreams face reveal that made me feel icky, and that is the amount of press that happend around it. like, my mom litteraly read an artical in the news about it, which is just weird to me.
it feels weird to me that a minecraft youtuber that just so happens to be popular doing a face reveal gets as much press as the queen of england dying, or a historic and iconic building burning down
X again shows why he's one of the best UA-camrs. Mature discussion about a topic important to many but trivial to just as many. I've never got the whole 'cult of personality' thing, especially where youtubers are concerned.
I'd love to see a joint face reveal X + Etho, just to put a face to the voices of peoples I like and care about. I also don't think its a big deal but I understand that less mature people can react poorly (I'm old by internet standards lol). I also think you hit the nail on the head there X, not showing your face for a long time creates an aura of mistery and expectation that will inevitably create a bigger response (positive or negative). At the end of the day no one will care about dreams appearance next week.
I think for X its also different because he grew his audience much more gradually and even though it's a pretty significant size now, we don't have that many of us that are burning with the curiosity of X's face reveal. Especially because when I first started watching X back in Hermitcraft season 2, most gaming channels didn't have their faces featured at all.
I never wondered what Mumbo looked like before he got into filmmaking, or Tango and Impulse before they started streaming with facecam. But Dream and CorpseHusband exploded in popularity so suddenly and them being Faceless(tm) became such a talking point it just ended up being a big deal. I'm glad Dream has the freedom to film in-person content now if that's what he wants but I kind of resent the whole culture around desperate curiosity for face reveals.
To be honest when Dream did the mask under the mask thing like Kakashi in Naruto that won so many points for him from me because I thought it was hilarious.
6:27 I love what you say here- I wholeheartedly agree. (Mostly with what comes a couple seconds later about liking a good conversation but also this) Which is part of the reason I love your streams so much- it's like a debate.
I love logic and I love formal (currently in team policy) debate. I don't like the evidence gathering part but I love the actual debate when we get to it and I definitely understand the need for all the evidence. A huge part about debate is gathering evidence for *both sides-* regardless of whether you're on the affirmative or negative. It helps to argue your point if you understand theirs. Another huge part about debate is defining your terms at the very start to make sure everyone is on the same page to stop confusion. This was a bit of a rant but hey it drives the algorithm lol
also wow, continuing a joke from a reddit thread i found some time ago, Tango's AI is struggling a bit
For me, when I watch UA-camrs who I admire I think there is a kind of relationship that exists. I believe that human beings are hardwired genetically to identify those people in our lives by their faces. For me, I find the person's face somehow makes the person more "real" in my mind. And I think that because of this, I can see how people might feel uncomfortable about revealing their faces. The physical judgments are unacceptable.
Not everyone does, like me, who can’t remember faces real well and is atrocious at remembering people in general.
But if you do, like most of the general population, you understand that others will do onto you as you do onto them. So that’s a reasonable amount of pressure.
@@WhatIsMyPorpoise yeah. I know. I don't mean to pressure anyone. I think I was trying to suggest a possible reason why people seem to be so keen to see faces. I never meant my comment to add to the generally pressure to face reveal. I respect a person's decision to stay private.
@@WhatIsMyPorpoise yeah, i personally find myself preferring to not know the face of the creators i watch. i find it interesting to hear so many people have a strong preference for knowing the faces of their creators just so they feel more like they're interacting with a person.
Different perspective, but having a degree of face blindness (the technical term is prosopagnosia), facial features are pretty low on my list of identifiable features. I'm more likely to recognise somebody by other visual context clues, even minutiae of body language is more recognisable to me than a person's face. And being neurodivergent, I tend to interact best with people via non-visual, non-physically present media (text or voice). The 'disembodied voice' mode of content creation (whether associated with an avatar or not) is thus very relatable for me, perhaps more so than seeing their faces. I don't feel any less emotionally engaged with a creator's content, and the parts of themselves they choose to share, if I don't know what they look like.
@@5pindin I also have face blindness. I don’t know if it’s because I’ve been used to watching UA-camrs without faces but I do find them more comfortable. I don’t mind watching UA-camrs like markiplier but I don’t often do so
My hand cramps up when I write with a pen too! I use these pencil grip things and it helps a lot.
Love your thoughts on these things X. I’ve always been interested in what people look like, but it’s more so I can visualise a face for the voice. My memory works in pictures (when it works at all ha ha, I’m getting old and grey!), so an unlinked face (eg for phone calls etc) makes it hard for me to remember details. With gaming it’s not so bad as I can link face to avatar/character and it works for me. I find it fascinating watching voiceovers being recorded though, as my mind has a character linked to a voice (maybe from a cartoon) and then there’s another real face too. Same goes with ventriloquism too. It’s interesting how this all works. I totally don’t get the comments on his appearance though. Ok, yes you may be interested in what the guy looks like, but it’s not cool to comment on his attractiveness or whatever. Man has face, should be end of story really!
X I don't think I've ever heard anyone else say they're dyspraxic. I'm really glad I got to use my computer in my classes in high school instead of writing by hand everything, but I definitely feel the pain of writing with a pencil being painful.
I think people care about face reveals because it puts a confirmation of who the human is behind the mic. Our bains are kinda hardwired to have conversations with people face to face, and we become better friends with people when we know what they look like and quicker too I think. The wanting to know who is behind the voice is I think why people care.
I'd be 50yo and still be wanting to see Xisuma and Etho's faces.
can’t believe I’m alive in the age of dream face reveal
Such a historical event
I suspect a fair portion of excitement over face reveals is just curiosity. What is the face that goes with that voice? Once it's done, the excitement probably dissipates quickly in most cases.
In the case of people inclined to be attracted to celebrities, there's also probably an element of, "Is this person attractive? I hope so!" involved.
For me, I'm curious what people look like, but it's not even a burning curiosity. My reaction tends to be, "Oh, that's neat." And then that's that. Their avatars I'm more familiar with tend to remain their face in my head that I associate with the voice, unless they change things so they're on camera all the time.
i can fully understand why some streamers dont want to show their face, i for one work at a very public place. if i were to start a channel i would not want people to recognize me and bother me at work. in this particular situation you can be absolutely certain that is you reveal your face after not showing it for a long time people are definitely going to be rude and insulting and trolling. just like some people are in a weird fan mode and are going to praise and brown nose in some fantasy that they will become personal friends with their favorite youtube personalities.
I like these clips from your streams since I Don't have the attention span to sit through hours of someone else playing a video game I could be playing myself.
I really admire your view on this cus it seems like you genuinely don't get jealous or care about other people's success or lack-thereof and that's actually pretty positive but for a lot of other people, feelings of jealousy or insecurity come a lot more naturally and not as like, controllable necessarily. Like you said at the end how jealousy serves no purpose for you, in essence, it doesn't really serve a purpose for anyone, it's more of just a natural vice that most people struggle with, I know I find myself getting jealous of other quite a lot. I try not to let it rule me or affect how I treat anyone, but I don't personally think I could completely prevent myself from getting jealous in the first place cus of how natural it is. I admire your lack of jealousy and *am jealous* that I don't also have that lack of jealousy. lol.
Edit: not talking about jealousy over Dream or his appearance necessarily, just about jealousy in general, cus I thought your point about jealousy at the end was very intriguing.
Yeah it rubbed me the wrong way too.
6:47, I like how all the progress X made in the video gets reverted back to what it was at the beginning xD
The community that Xisuma has procured is amazing, seriously. This comment section is amazingly refreshing in comparison to. Well. Literally any other comment section where the topic of the video has to do with the dream face reveal. But wow this is a breath of fresh air.
Xisuma just has such a straight logicality that it would be silly to post something as unnecessary as hate, I guess!
I think the image of the person you build up in your mind when listening to their voice, is where the intrigue comes from, and also the hate when that image doesn't align with what you end up seeing. I can imagine there was a good few million teenagers had their idea of what dream looked like shattered. They had a pretty weird fetish of his mc skin.
I think it's the buildup that made it worse, like how often he teased it and then it was made such a massive deal. The facetiming different creators before hand, reaction upon reaction videos, a whole song written about it. This caught attention to the whole MCYT community, heck even people that don't even watch minecraft videos knew about it. This opened the door into so much judgement, especially as he doesn't have a favoured reputation with some parts of the MCYT community. People will always judge your face if it's on the internet, like you said - having your face out there.. you just have to be prepared for that. But in Dream's case, it's so much worse - because it's not just 'people on the internet'.. it's the whole internet. He is essentially a celebrity if you will. Revealing now, when he's in his limelight, when he is the most known person on the internet - that's what's dangerous. If he had revealed earlier on, like you said, it maybe wouldn't have been received in such a controversial way and people that didn't watch him wouldn't have really cared.
I appreciate this kind of content, thanks. It's kind of like its own sort of IRL, shooting the breeze while working on a project. It's a nice change of pace from videos that are so in-world focus.
I totally agree with the comment about never doing in-person meetups with fans. I decided a long time ago that, as a fan of certain content creators, I would never meet them in person, and that's on purpose. Whether the irl person doesn't live up to my expectations or (more likely) I did something embarrassing in front of them, I feel I would never be able to enjoy their content again, and that's not worth the risk.
I think the Grian approach to this is best. His face is out there, but he doesn’t often show it. The fact his face is already revealed tho allows more freedom of content, like the Lego video.
Before anyone says anything, I know others do it Grian just was the first I thought of. Mumbo does it too and I’m sure a lot of UA-camrs who don’t stream with face cam do it as well.
I feel like this talk is related to Cult of personality video you did. Face reveal is like upgrading your cult of personality to a new level or at least refresh the creator image.
I was struggling to put my thoughts about this topic into words, but you did exactly that, so thanks!
i dont care what xisuma looks like, that super attractive voice is more than enough
Maybe if people cared that much about is appearence is due to how people tend to idolise others. And about the fact that people relate to UA-camrs they enjoy watching. They idolise them because they have respect for them, but when they do a face reveal, they don't feel the same, you can feel lied to, and seeing a representation of the character you respect that just doesn't look like a "respectable" or special person, can make you feel like they don't deserve your respect. Also, if you relate to a person you don't really know, you tend to link your appearance to their, which mean that the day they show their true self to you, you'll compare them to yourself, and such, show much more critism than needed.
I'm as much of a philosopher as I know how to speak english, this is only my thought, and I never interviewed people or made any deep search for those conclusions.
having a good family or support system as well as self confidence and being secure with yourself can lead you down to a path in that direction. Being able to feel and talk with your emotions as well can make this happen. This is the reason that x is likely not jealous
i know what you mean by "jealousy has no use for me" but its such a funny phrasing cause it sounds like "this emotion has no purpose therefore i (definitely not a robot with an ai generated voice) eradicated it"
I appreciate your measured, mature approach to any topic you discuss. Thank you!
I've been around on UA-cam for a very long time one of the first big face reveals that I remember in The Gaming Community was sp00n. Moments like these happen every so often in The Gaming Community and they're often blown way out of proportion. I wish that people didn't feel like they needed to hide their face to begin with. That the internet wouldn't judge them or condemn them or treat them differently just because of how they looked or didn't look. But I also have been around long enough to know that that is inevitable and for those who wish to have a level of anonymity it becomes increasingly difficult to do so and when the veil is finally pulled back there's so much fanfare around it at the whole ordeal blows itself way out of proportion.
the face reveal opened up a lot more variety in their content. Add the mystery and the fact that he the biggest faceless youtuber to ever do a face reveal made it a big deal for others and that's what peaked my interest. however, the reaction from the people was something i expected but not to that degree. it felt like people suddenly forgot basic human decency by calling him ugly and telling him to put the mask back on. even the people preaching dont judge a book by its cover was suddenly over-analyzing facial features they consider to be ugly. those were the reactions i found weird.
Here is just my two bits on the subject: If I ever made it onto the site, I simply would not do a face reveal. Not for the suspence or because its no ones buisness or anything, but just because I'm just a person like the next guy. Nothing special, nothing to go nuts over. Some people may be discontented with a disombodied voice, but the thing that I can get behind, and that I have seen from people like Xisuma, is that anyone can make up for not having a face to go with the voice by having a good personality and a great presence to watch. And that is what I, and I am sure many others appreciate far more than a face reveal. A good personality, and a great presence.
Beauty is subjective, if someone doesn’t seem particularly appealing to you that’s alright. The problem is if you don’t like the person and uses their appearance as a way to try to hurt them, people with similar features might get hurt as well
Just let Xisuma be Xisuma, Dream being Dream. X wanted to protect his privacy and personal space so he could enjoy eating curry at some good restaurant without being bother by obsessed fan or hater
In years past I was the kind of person to ask for face reveals. After a few times where they did, it started to feel a bit odd, so I stopped. Now I would never thing about asking for it.
It is a bit of a weird thing with how it gets put on a pedestal. It's a weird thing that I just don't understand nor care to try
I don’t really know much about Dream, but Wand of Sparking did a face reveal recently and I think that went well for him.
Personally, if I were a popular faceless youtuber, I would eventually want to “reveal” my face on my own terms. It would help prepare my own mental state rather than have to be thrown into that situation.
I full on agree with Xisuma like hands down, couldn’t have been said better :)
I’m just glad that he and his pals can do things outside together now or make irl content. I probably wouldn’t have made it a big deal, just thrown my face in something casually without bringing it up, but at this point that would have probably gotten all the same reaction. That kind of thing only works if you do it from the start.
i think it's the concept of his face being hidden for so long that made people's options differ...so the reaction is very (on the extreme side)
It’s cool to know the face behind the voice. It’s dumb af that people are calling him ugly or hot or whatever. It’s just who he is. I think he did it because his two best friends now live with him, george and sapnap and everyone knows what they look like so now that they’re living together, if dream kept his face hidden then he wouldn’t be able to be in their videos irl but now with the face reveal him and the other two can do irl videos and go out together
I wish I knew more people like you in my day to day life. I get so exhausted with the popularity contests and the judgment for others that is always thrown around without any thought
I know for me, the care came from pure intrigue/curiosity. I'd been watching the guy since before he really blew up, and the chance to finally put a face to the voice raised the curiosity in me.
I think the main difference if X were to face reveal (or just most other faceless ccs for that matter) as opposed to dream's face reveal is the community they would/did reveal to. Dream's community is a lot mored polarized, containing avid stans and haters alike. The community he fostered while growing feels vastly different to the one that thrives here. He was going to get hate no matter how pretty or ugly he turned out to be, that's just how the people in his orbit are. I doubt this reaction would translate as harshly across other cc face reveals.
The real mystery is why people care
People can be a fan of a content creator . Those who arent, dont need to care ;-)
I think it has a lot to do with how much we judge people on their looks. Normally your first thought of someone is about their looks and then you begin to judge. When that ability is taken away, people have the desire to see the face. When it then gets revealed people judge and get chocked because they wouldn't have given them a chance if they had seen it from the start, and end up in a dilemma.
I definitely identify with his passive response.
I can see why X would be interested in this topic, as I've seen people asking for him to reveal his face, and I imagine it gets tiring when it's something you've made up your mind not to do. What little I know of Dream is that he has been accused of being a problematic person (making negative comments about marginalized communities?), and so I have no interest in him personally; but to answer the general question of "why we care about face reveals," I think it has to do with the audience often wanting to see ourselves reflected in popular media. If you look at the explosive rise of reality shows, for example- we have the technology to make TV shows, movies, etc, about literally anything fantastical that we want- space, dragons, dinosaurs, robots- and yet a huge amount of money is spent on producing shows that are about real people doing daily activities in the real world. Sometimes they're famous like the Kardashians, sometimes they're previously-unknown people rounded up by casting calls, but I think ultimately there's this human "drive" to peer into the lives of other humans and see how similar/dissimilar we are. Maybe we wonder if we're living our best lives, and want to compare notes. Maybe we're confident in ourselves and are looking to poke fun at others. The reason could be pretty much anything, but I think that's where a lot of wanting something like a "face reveal" comes from: "how do I compare to this person who is involved in popular content?"
I hope that makes sense and thanks for listening.
i love this channel, I love to hear opinions and arguments to get an answer to a question without the toxic people.
Personally, as a Dream fan, his face reveal has been tied to his branding and been something hyped up for a very very long time. It takes a lot of courage to face reveal-and pretty much every fan I saw was hyping him up too!-and now he can do irl content with the Dream Team and his other friends without worrying about someone leaking his face early. (Also, the marketing around it was smart.)
See, it’s not really about Dream’s appearance: it’s about what it means for him, his friends, and us!
I really enjoyed this waffle and your perspective on jealousy
I've always just been curious, knowing a person from personality first,cuz i love meeting new people, even if I don't know what to look like, but that first in person just hits different
1:30. i feel the same way of more being like. "yeah he is and always was a person." the only way i would see people making a deal of it is finally being able to put a face to this "character". and for some reason its a good or bad thing depending who you ask. not sure that makes sense, but either way i think people make more of a deal than it should. and i hope nothing negative comes of it and hope dream the best. he must have put a lot of thought into it because of those people who will react negative and leave mean comments.
wow he sounds so jelly when it was ask:P but i think curiousity makes the face reveals so wanted, the postive and negative commands are a by product.
Wouldnt be surprised if Dream plans to get into Esports in some way. Even with all the cheating controversy, he is still extremely skilled at Minecraft.
And at least with technoblade's passing (R.I.P.) he's the best well-known minecraft creator
Also he's in MinecraftChampionship so
I don't care what you look like. You're beautiful, Xisuma!
I remember Dream saying he’d think about doing a face reveal when he reached 10 mil, but by then his fan base had increased and there were antis appearing that he never did reveal then. That was back in August/September 2020, so I think the people who were fans around that time just had a general curiosity about who this fast growing Minecraft UA-camr really was.
This is interesting conversation. Part of me thinks something like a “fave reveal” does nothing but serve vanity. On the other hand, it’s a piece of ones identity and why should it have any consequence to ones content? As creators, you create a viewing based on your content, and almost defacto create a “cult community” as you had mentioned in a previous video. At that point, further revealing intimate parts about your identity (face, family, personal lives) is just a part of that channel’s (cults?) development. In Hermitcraft, there are members who openly use their faces, and some who do not. I’m sure when one first “reveals” themselves, it’s a strange occurrence for the audience but it should not change the content. Those whose faces I’ve seen before, I enjoy them as much as I ever did. Same goes for those who’ve not.
Like you said though, the anonymous internet can be unforgiving. Perhaps it is better to keep distance between ones personal identity, and their otherwise professional internet-based one, ESPECIALLY when the primary audience have not yet learned indifference over something like physical appearance.
I figure X face is just a black sentient void
Hey X one thing I’ve always thought about is for many people who don’t show there face there fans listen to there accent/voice alott more and especially people with a more “obvious voice” so say yours are you ever worried about going to the shops and people noticing it’s you just by your voice?
Wish I could watch your hermitcraft videos more, there are just so many great hermits to watch and not enough time! I’m happy I can listen in on these ones, though ❤
I find that when people stay anonymous the focus stays on what they do rather than who they are. For example members in the band Sleep Token stay anonymous to keep the focus on their music.
Jealous really is an amusing idea XD the thing to remember is that, as far as I know, Dream was faceless to protect his privacy as a child, as most of us used to be encouraged to do. It was only in the last few years that he exploded in popularity and gained a very polarizing position online. As a result, he lost the control over elements of his own life, like going out with friends and the types of videos he got to make, which is maddening to a young adult (speaking as a young adult). It had gotten so bad that he was hounded by fans to face reveal and hounded by antis to simply disappear. Both groups had large portions that would expose him without a second thought if they saw him in public. So, he did the only thing he could see as regaining agency over his own identity. He showed his face, on his terms. Whether this was the right choice will always be up for debate, but he honesty wanted to be able to go out with friends and make videos together just having fun.
I wouldn't envy him. To feel such intense pressure without having the ability to go out with real friends, for fear of being recognized and exposed, would drive me crazy
true it’s interesting to see how people reacted. myself i didn’t really care to be honest, it was legit just a “oh cool, so that’s what he looks like”.
I'll be honest I didn't really care if he did a face reveal but since he did he's got a lot more options now what to do but honestly dream wasn't exactly what I imagined I just imagine long hair and a beard that was all
X: "he's just a person with a face, we're all born like that"
people born without faces due to defects: sad faceless noises
It always bothered me that, upon typing any hermit's name into the youtube searchbar, one of the top ten results is always "[name] face reveal." Why is a face so important? I just assume Etho looks exactly like Kakashi.
One thing that everyone should always remember, especially not just to youtubers. Is that whatever you do in this world, whether good or bad. People will always have something to say. So why bother minding what they all say tbh. Just continue what you wanna do and do it without fear or thought of what they say. In the end what matters anyway is that you do what you think is right.
I don't even know how I got to this channel as I don't watch any other Xixuma content, but it's consistently interesting
I hope some of the Hermits that haven’t done a face reveal do one or a joke one but either way I still enjoy the content
This video sold me on the Xisuma says channel. I have had trouble getting into your Hermitcraft content after coming from other Hermits, don’t change that for me by any means. I just wanted to say what’s going on here is very unique and very much up my own alley, and I’m sure its a fitting format for many others.
Well I think the reason there's a fixation on his looks is because it begs the question "Why was he hesitant about showing his face?". When it's a face 'reveal', vs just them using a face cam at some point, confidence in your appearance is something that comes to mind as a reason for that reluctance. It's why we don't pass as much judgement on a youtuber we come across and the first thing we see from them is a face cam, there isn't attention being drawn to how they feel about their appearance
Well I don’t know about the comments on looks but it seems to me that part of what’s made the face reveal matter is that he hyped it up so much.
I love these talks X!