Jamo C912 Subwoofer, $229? Can it make bass?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment:
I swapped out the plate amp in this thing with pretty much a drop in replacement 300 watt one and this thing is out of this world.
nice! The driver looked like it could handle more so I'm happy to see that worked for you!
can you please explain further how you did that?
Changed for what?
any link for the plate amp?
I was thinking about doing the same, what amp did you use?
Got mine for 180 each during Christmas sale, bought two and love them
I have the Jamo S808s in my office, pretty decent w “conservative calibrating” & DSP- for sum’n w only 50W, good enough as long as expectations r set.
I just bought one from Amazon Renewed, rated as excellent condition for $169.00. 90 day return so I took a chance. I have the impression this is soon to be discontinued. There are no black cabinets left, only white.
I got for my TV home theater system used Rel Q50 and it has been great for my small apartment
Some subwoofers from before the 2000s had "low wattages" like that. I had no problem getting them uncomfortably loud.
yeah, it depends how big the room is.
Excelente gracias por compartir sus conocimientos 👏
Got my new Speedwoofer MkII coming hopefully next week. Looked at this as a first sub, but ended up just waiting until the RSL's came back in stock. Excited to see what the extra low end does for my system. Thanks for all the info, been fun trying to figure out where to invest my funds building out this first HT build.
Hahaha! ME TOO! I ordered it (MkII) the moment we were allowed to at 9:00am in the morning! (I think it was March 9th if I recall?).
WOW you must be my twin, cuz I was doing the EXACT SAME THING! Looking at this 12-inch Jamo sub first! I was almost about to pull the trigger on buying this C912,
but then found out the RMS power was only listed as 75 watts!? Nah, i'll just wait for the Speedwoofer instead! (Which, like you said, SHOULD be arriving next week!) 😀😊🤔
Wise choice, I expect the speedwoofer (either one) to murder this Jamo in every sense of the word.
@@corkydukeII5898 I had a couple additional almost purchases from Monoprice and SVS. Luckily I got the notice from RSL as I almost spent a bit more than I wanted. Mine is showing up on Friday! Hope you like yours
@@antigravity19 Hehe! Yeah, luckily indeed! (I too was looking into Monoprice....oh wait, no, I think it was 'Monolith'...but their prices are in the SVS range). So yeah, Luckily RSL came to the rescue and solved our Sub woos! (although truth be told, I probably would've been more than happy if Jamo wouldn't have screwed up and just given the C912 an appropriate wattage number...like 150 RMS...a number most of us could no doubt live with).
Oh well, I'm sure the $450 price tag will be more than worth it! 😁😊(Btw - This RSL '2nd sub' that I/we just ordered is meant to compliment my already existing SVS PB1000 that I purchased about 6 yrs ago...)
@@NemoPropaganda I Just placed an order for the speedwoofer as well. But Do you recommend for esthetics to get this one at $175 ? My whole system is the White C series Jamo speakers, and the only thing missing is the subwoofer :D Ill hide the speed and pretend the C912 is doing the job
Thanks Nemo, as always!
My pleasure!
@@NemoPropaganda '2 weeks ago' ????
@@Roof_Pizza members get videos early
@@net_news Ah. THANX.
@@Roof_Pizza yw my friend!
$165 on amazon today, Im coming from no sub so it should be good
That's how I ended up at this video too
Nice! welcome to the show!!!!!!!!!!!
watts on subwoofers is not what i expected, i thought more watts will be better in all cases. especially more expensive watts.
this is just my experience on two amps driver same subwoofers.
i diy two passive subwoofers, 10" driver in a 18 liter sealed cabinet. had a small cheap 2x100watt in 8ohm class d icepower and the NAD 298 purifi class d with is full size and 185 watt in 8 ohm.
these both sounded about the same 200hz and below and could push my subwoofers to the max with ease.
my point is that in the most difficult small cabinet and dsp applied 15hz was doable, i was told that to get low hz and small box volume you need dsp and lots of watts.
Jamo be there.
cool cool, jamo go make some food lol
OK, what is better choise in the same budget? For example, reciver DENON X3800H has 4 output for subs
+ 1x SVS PB1000
+ or 4x JAMO C912 ???
Around the same cost.
I do not see a case for buying more than 1 Jamo C912, if you have the budget for a pair or more you should buy a better subwoofer instead.
its great for the money, just dont expect substantial output.
Nice review. Isn't Jamo associated with Klipsch?
It is
dunno how close they are but both are owned by VOXX International. Kinda like YUM Brands owns both KFC and Pizza Hut. VOXX owns a crap load of brands.
That's what I've heard but I'm not sure honestly.
75 W RMS. If this were rated at 150 W RMS that would seem much more impressive. Isn’t the difference of double the power only 3 dB? Yes. It is. As you pointed out it is a very efficient design and tuned well and efficient designs can yield 3db and even 6db higher efficiency. Correct? 75 to 150 W equals 3 more dB. 150 W to 300 W equals another 3 dB. Wouldn’t an honest evaluation of any amplifier be better done by measuring the resulting sound output and clarity of a given amplifier/speaker system when combined? Personally, I would like to see amplifiers rated on a scale that represents total decibel range rather than electrical consumption. Thoughts?
You can do that but only with complete systems like powered speakers or powered subwoofers. CEA testing for example is what you are describing for subwoofers.
I know it’s an old review but what about this vs se12(289) or se8(189) all for mix of movies and music. Been enjoying your reviews.
SE12 is much better, built better, and extends lower, if you want one move fast because they're on clearance and not coming back. Hope that helps.
Good stuff🍻
And today it's 154. I'm really torn as to the necessity but I'm so tempted by the price.
do it~!
@@NemoPropaganda I did be here Monday. Thanks for the review I've already got the c93ii and the center plus 803s but I've got to stop. I do appreciate your opinion.
@@NemoPropaganda beats living with regrets right brother.
@@larryh.4629 its a good sub bro, for the money you can't go wrong! Def save money going forward though :) that's always a good thing.
@@NemoPropaganda yeh I dig it this old cat turned 71 last month and I'm trying to get my tunes going again. I just checked of course amazon will jack the price to 229 so you feel good then 3 wks from now it will fall to 115 . But hey. My brother was complaining about his 40 yr old harmon kardon. Probably needs caps and cleaning. If he wasn't my brother I'd sweettalk him out of it but being the nice guy I am. I just can't. Dang morals keep getting in the way. Thank you for the support I've been very happy with the jamo line was the first speaker that had me turn full right looking for the source. I'm Midwest cat what part of my wonderful country you call home. Non specific. My guess S.E. gotta go. Bedtime for this old buzzard.
Just bought this for my living room and LOVE it now I want a sub for my bedroom but don't want one this large, would SVS SB-1000 Pro as good if not better?
oh yes, the SB1000 Pro is much better and much smaller.
@@NemoPropaganda Wow, that's unbelievable bcuz I love this Jamo C912. Thank you for the info! 😀
Would you recommend it over Polk psw10
yeah, the Jamo plays a little cleaner than the polk.
Jamo website has the amp at 400 max 200RMS
Did they make a change?
I don't know bro, Jamo marketing is all messed up, their website lists 200w, 300w, 400w, and 75w at different times and on the specsheet for the C912 it says 10" woofer so I have no idea anymore. The sub sounds great for the money and I have no idea what the watts are.
If the cabinet is a good size, couldn't the port be enlarged or a second port added if the tuning frequency is too high?
Got a Fenton SHFS12B sub on the way with 150W RMS and 400W peak. Got a single port on the back that appears to be a bit smaller than the Jamo, and similar sized box (maybe slightly larger)
a single larger port or adding a second port will raise the tuning frequency. This driver & plate amp are most likely not up to the task of producing anything below 30hz, the driver can't do it and the plate amp doesn't have the power to support it. This is a good cheap sub for $200 but it will have it's limits.
Nice review 👌
Thanks for the review Nemo. I own a JBL es150p, it's a 10 inch sub with a rated response from 27hz and a 300 watt RMS amp. Do you think this Jamo would be an upgrade?
Probably not. Your sub, although 10" ported, is 300W, with 500W peak. The amp alone is considerably more powerful, which won't just translate to higher SPL but usually better control and dynamics as well.
There are more factors overall to consider, but stopping right there on the spec sheet you could likely make the assumption that you're not going to upgrade with the jamo, and more likely you'd be stepping down even though you'd 'gain' a larger driver. And likely that gain is only with the circumference of the cone. Your JBL probably has a larger motor section based on the wattage they are driving it with vs. the Jamo.
You'd probably have to shop in the $500-$600 range to best your current sub with any considerable margin. There are some budget outliers and sales that may lower the cash outlay a bit, but that's my opinion on the performance aspects.
@@erics.4113 Thank you very much. Think I'll save for a SVS SB-2000 Pro instead. Where I live a KEF Kube 12b would also be a budget option. It's a 12 inch sealed design with a 300W RMS amplifier and a 22hz rated response, but, as with the Jamo, I can't find many reviews online.
probably not brother.
Rhythmik L12
No
maybe some of us (or many) don't wanna run away because we simply aren't interested in "loud". "loud" is overrated in the reviewers's community, you don't need loud in your typical 12 x 14 living room, a 20 wpc amp and a 50 watts sub will do nicely with enough oomph.
I totally agree but then there are those who listen around 90-95dB, I have met these people and they really do exist. I was genuinely shocked that anyone could find that enjoyable.
I have the jamo s809 floor standing speakers. Along with a sony center speaker. I have the system in my bedroom which is very small. Would this be a good editon and worth the 165$ it is right now on Amazon?
Yeah for sure, it just might be a bit too big for a bedroom though....
@@NemoPropaganda thank you i decided to go with the sony sa-cs9 10’
@@Carsonplayz that's better sized for a bedroom for sure :)
Would you recommend this sub or the Polk XT12? And what sub would you recommend instead if not those two?
personally I'm not a big fan of the ultra budget subwoofers, some of them like this one sound great but they all have very limited output and extension. If around $200 is the top of your budget I'd go for the Jamo C912 over just about anything else. The only other cheap sub I like the JBL 550p.
I need your advice:
I have this sub paired with my little Jamo 803 5.0 budget system and have loved the whole package compared to our old janky Samsung soundbar (though it was a hard sell to my Chief Aesthetics Officer).
But after hearing some praise about the RSL Speedwoofer 10S MKII, I’ve been strongly considering returning the C912 and going for the RSL instead. We watch a lot of genres of movie and TV show, and listen to basically every genre of music.
How “much” better of an upgrade would the RSL S10 be compared to the C912? 20% better, 50% better?
I need to be able to justify the cost, but the fact the RSL is smaller will be an upsell for my S.O.
Hey Square, so it might seem like I'm exaggerating but I'd say it's roughly a 250-300% improvement. The speedwoofer is on another level. It's like asking how a base model Honda Fit compares to a fully loaded Honda Accord. Those that have driven both cards will agree while the Honda Fit is fantastic for the money it doesn't hold a candle to the more refined Accord.
@@NemoPropaganda That’s exactly what I was hoping to hear, truth be told.
PLEASE wish me luck in convincing the Mrs. The Wife Acceptance Factor is the only bottleneck in my system other than my tiny budget. 🤣
@@SquareOFortune i will pray to bass gods for you 🙏🏻
Is this one better then the Klipsch R-121SW ?
I have not heard that one but it's probably similar maybe a little better.
What did you set the gain and frequency on the sub? Did you go 120 LFE with -3?
I don't have LFE.
I need sub for music on a BUDGET i think of getting jamo c 910, it wouldnt get better i think for 11m2.
nothing better in the $200 category but if you have some extra cash the Speedwoofer 10s is a big step up.
How it's work. One shop says it has 200watt rms, another one says it's have 75 watt rms. Pls tell me how it's work.
75w RMS, 300w peak, per Jamo spec sheet.
@@NemoPropaganda thx, i have another question. What sub will be better a jamo j12 or jamo c912?
@@FoxAlky I believe the j12 is discontinued. I have not heard it.
How is this compared to Klipsch synergy sub-100? Both are on sale for $160-170. Which one is better?
I don't know.
Any insights just based on the specs?
@@gopinaths5159 this is really just a guess but I think the Jamo has the most neutral port tuning frequency out of all the ultra cheap subs, the Klipsch is most likely tuned higher up and may have harder tone to its bass. The Klipsch does give you double the power but a smaller driver so I think output will be similar on both. I'd choose the Jamo for its more linear frequency response. Again this is all a guess.
Thanks man, appreciate it!
Can’t imagine having to walk around A12” sub. Episode 6, or 8, or Cambridge minx 6 or 8 are awesome high powered fast sealed subs. Fostex also does some decent options.
Edit one more: doesn’t “literally” poop on anything. Just sayin’, but you can still keep the upthumb. :)
I'm curious how does this compare to the Airmotiv SE8?? I got this Jamo off of Erin's review but that was before I knew about the Airmotiv. I wonder if I screwed up and should have spent a little more for the Airmotiv.
They're both pretty good budget solutions. SE8 is a little cleaner and better for music while the Jamo has a larger sense of scale which is better for theater.
Looking at this as a stop gap until plate amps come back in stock for my two Klipsch Reference 112sw (both blown). Would this do in a pinch or maybe even put the amp in one of the R112?
I think you'll not only be satisfied but you may like the speedwoofer more.
Power is cheap nowadays. Why only 75w?!
good question!
What’s the next bump above this guy for music? When you said you’d sell it and upgrade what would be your next sub? Just picked up some early 90s canton ergo 70s. I have a big open living room 16x15x8 ceiling.
I think you misunderstood or misheard what I said but an upgrade from here would be the Emotiva SE8 and up from that would be the RSL Speedwoofer, and up from that would be the Rythmik L12.
I have Jamo s809 towers with c83 and a Polk psw10 subwoofer. I want to get this c912 to replace my Polk psw10. Would I notice a difference?
I think so, the Jamo has a much cleaner sound.
@@NemoPropaganda you said good subwoofer that needs more power to run it but it is in a good size cabinet and that helps with the LFE
@@Mjaybird the large cabinet helps with efficiency yes. With only 75w this cannot play tremendously loud but if you stay within its output range it sounds very clean.
@@NemoPropaganda I think with the room we have with the tv it should be good. If we ever move we could buy a second one. Right now in our townhouse I don’t want something to big or loud
@@Mjaybird ehhhh, the C912 isn't small by any means bro, it's kinda of on the bigger side if size is a concern.
Does anyone know if this unit is as good as Polk's PSW505 used for a 3 piece stereo system with a Denon AVR-X1400H reciver?
No, this would not be an upgrade for you.
@@NemoPropaganda - Thank you. Also, you may have seen a different message in your email notification because I initially misread your message, but now I'm seeing that you said that it would NOT be an upgrade for me.
@@trentmonaghan179 if you love it $45 is a low price to pay assuming they can fix it but a new RSL Speedwoofer would be a great upgrade!
@@NemoPropaganda - Thanks. I'll be looking at your video and others for the RSL Speedwoofer.
Inexpensive is a great alternative to the word "cheap".
whats the difference? you understood didn't you?
Would it be worth it to buy the Jamos, and upgrade the amp later on?
Def no, i’d just go for the RSL Speedwoofer, it’s a superior option.
$204.00 on Amazon.
that's about as cheap as it gets for entry level theater!
@@NemoPropaganda Not enough power to really take advantage of the cabinet size though
@@Audiomainia2310 yup, but for such a low price 30hz is low enough for the money I think.
@@NemoPropaganda At $204, It may be best to buy two of them as one way to offset the less than desired power.
@@rickw2023 nah, at $408 It's better to have a single RSL Speedwoofer.
Made BY KLIPSCH
Its not made by klipsch. Just the same parent company.
Products that are always on sale because well marketing🤣😭😅
So, if they are often on sale are they ever really on sale?
@@Roof_Pizza good point 🤣😅
@@Roof_Pizza if you believe they are on sale, they are. They are really just, for sale
@@erics.4113 I wouldn't buy anything from them do to more than dishonest marketing.
@@Roof_Pizza I don't know that I believe any marketing as truth-telling. There is always a bias to the positive, just a nature of the task. Agreed that some are less ethical than others, by miles. And if spotted I would be less inclined to patronize organizations that conduct themselves with utter disregard to the truth just to sell some crap
Cough..jlaudiofathom..cough cough
I’m enjoying yer channel Mr Propaganda👍
Coughing…
Fathom is way too expensive IMO but I will review the E110 and D110 pretty soon!
@@NemoPropaganda Cool!
I’ve been eyeing those too!
Thank you:)
Dreaming of the unobtainable saves me a lot of money.And that Fathom would look ever zo nice in my living room!
@@Gibberishus I'm sure it's nice but for the money a pair of E15hp2 would be more likely for me, then again I have not heard the fathom.