This was pretty great. Worth sticking around for that ending and honestly these games showcased how some underrated factions can shine with a little bit of inventive gameplay. Can't wait for the next one!
I'm really impressed with how good you are at casting this game considering how recently it was released. Looking forward to a lot more AoE 4 content in the future; it'll be a great way to pass the time until Warhammer 3.
This format's currently great because we're still figuring out the factions, so when specialist players come in with unseen strats it's doubly exciting for me. Not only do we get a game between good players but we're seeing cutting edge experimentation that's not the familiar meta plays we get in regular formats.
I've been playing this game so hard since launch. Still just challenging the AI, since I'm an RTS noob, and going all with Delhi, but gradually, I'm more reliably winning against Hard, and will make the switch to Hardest AI, and then finally, the dreaded ladder. But all of this is because you decided to feature it on your channel. Otherwise I'm certain I'd have let this game slip by.
I did the same thing as you! I practiced only with Delhi (using Szalami - the player casted in this video - as heavy inspiration) and learned to beat hard, then hardest AI. Finally I made the switch to ladder to see how I would do, and just to warn you - i was able to EASILY win the first 6-7 games I played. Many people on the ladder are indeed worse than even the hard AI. If you can go toe-to-toe with Hardest AI, then you are already well above several tiers of skill in the multiplayer quickmatch so far.
@@SteveK36 Hell yes, glory to the Sultanate! And Szalami's plays are mad indeed! And alright, that's good to hear, so thanks for the tip! I can beat the hardest AI on most maps with decent reliability, but have still been afraid of getting my feet wet. But I think getting a few wins will help quell my apprehension and let me properly develop some more skills.
These aoe4 tournament formats are fun. Thanks. I don’t have a computer anymore. So this is huge for me since I started playing computer RTS games as a child.
Yes Turin remembers those RTS games, I was telling my wife about how the worm sign thing still triggers me. Gotta look around and save my crawlers from those bastards.
awesome commentary and nice matches. may i suggest an empty anti spoiler 30 minutes addition to the end of the video? it's used often for many tournaments, to make it unclear if there's a third match by the length of the video. while i was moving the video forward for the 2nd round of the final match, the video's length made it clear who was winning second of the three in the final. great work
I'm amazed at how Szalamii1 picked a faction where all the starting infantry can build walls, and didn't set up any around his base. Just Sacred Sites.
What do I press on my keyboard in order to create a mass rally point for all of my military producing buildings without having to select each manually?
@@rahilanees2343 I use F1 to select all, but then put them to control group, because on F1 the game auto focuses on the buildings. other hotkeys: F2 all resource buildings, F3 military upgrades, F4 all TC-s.
Friendly Critic. I can hear your voice eching in the room you are in. I reccomend looking into mic accessories and even editing in post. Great job tho. :) Just realized this was casted two years ago. you sound a lot better in your recent videos haha
Love the commentary often just listen whilst doing other things and still know exactly how the match is going. Do I know this voice from starcraft or dota?
It's super interesting to see a rush to t3 with English and how impactful some generic Knights can be vrs archers. Even without upgrades, they seem pretty effective. Good counterplay from his opponent though!
Sting played Feyd Rautha in David Lynch's Dune. I didn't play the RTS games, but I did briefly play the collectible card game that was out for maybe five seconds circa 1998. It was... not great.
Love the upload, but guys for future videos, timestamps with the player's names, the factions they play and the name of the map would be an amazing addition. cheers!
I actually hate France as a faction, their economy is almost impossible to keep up with since they get so many workers so fast, the hulks give them naval dominance early shutting down your fishing, the knights are way too powerful for how early you get them and on top of that can self heal, they have no real weakness. The only ways I've seen them beat is from crazy all out rushes or the player just being bad at the game, they need a nerf badly.
I definitely prefer people playing as "main's". It's much easier as a viewer to be a fan of a "Faction/Race", than it is be fans of a "player". So as an observer, you care way more about how, say, the Mongols are doing, compared to how "John Doe" is doing. Later, you might become a fan of "John Doe". But only if you come to recognize him as a good Mongol player (or whatever Race it is)
Brings me back to the good old days, wish they didn't overprice this game at 80$ though. Can't in good conscious spend so much on what, in these days, is a fairly simple game. Even AoE2 had 13 races at launch, this one just has 8....for 80$.
Honestly i just think the mongol player was at a significantly higher level, you can see it clearly in the idle times for vills and just the apm. the english vills were constantly idling sometimes for minutes before the English player noticed and re assigned them. The mongol player's units always had commands and were never idle. there were also many times when he chased the mongols army with his vills which was putting him behind eco wise massively. Plus going full eco on a map that's bad for walling against a player you KNOW will rush you is pretty brain dead by the English player in the second game. Overall the English player only knew how to play one way, rush to imp and zerg the opponent, any barrier to that and they died pretty easy.
Please read: I've been coming up against the feudal age battering ram rush -- where I should be able to easily defend by garrisoning units in TC and mowing down the squishy enemy units with my TC attack. Instead TC just fires brainlessly at the battering rams, no matter how many times i right click the enemy archers/horsemen... Wtf!!
This is something I have noticed quite a lot in the games I have watched & as a common complaint, which is TC & Keeps having no ability to toggle targets so they fire into whatever is closest, usually being what you don’t want shot... This should hopefully be changed in the future.
@BftBG777 i play Delhi Sultanate and it seems i have nothing to counter the feudal age ram rush. English longbows for example murder everything i have until castle age. But if i fast castle then the ram rush would just end me before i get there. What kinda decision was that- Relic made- that buildings cannot manually fire; or did they just forget to include it in their final game 😡
Anyone getting rammed by Kurultai? Little tip here from a mongol player. For the Kurultai to give the buff aura, the Khan needs to be in range of the aura itself. So if you notice your mongol opponent is not microing his Khan, just snipe him with focus fire and the Kurultai becomes useless. Hope it helps someone out there and for my fellow mongols, I'm really sorry lol
A Personal side note: If I were Nyan, I personally would split my prize with IAmMagic. I don't know, this would just feel right. Honour is worth more than money imho. GG WP - Nice tourney!
Rus can smash the French on water maps. Just play keepaway with your fishing boats and try to hide in map corners. As they don't need to return to drop off food you can completely forgo villager food farm
I am normally not necessarily for nerfs, since I think that in an ideal world, the other factions just need buffs, so the differences get more accentuated (instead of everything get nerfed to be pretty much the same). That beeing said, France is just stupidly OP from what I have seen, they just get EVERYTHING. This needs to be nerfed or France just should be banned from Tournaments imo.
While that english player had competent eco, his army composition and micro were depressingly appalling. In fact it was so stupid, I couldn't stand watching, my forehead was hurting from facepalming.
Simtom played so bad he stood no chance in finals vs IamMagic. Even Nyan was able to beat him. Just shows how weak Delhi civ is currently. Nyan vs Magic felt like a game between pros while Delhi vs english felt like english just screwing around, giggling and running circles around delhi savoring those salty delhi tears knowing theres nothing they can do.
You know..... its really sad to see only AOE Videos now. I like more strategic games where you can not reproduce lost units. That´s why i like TWW 1+2 so much. I know i won´t like TWW 3 so much as 1+2 because of the unit respawn functions and such things but will still love TWW 3. Hopefully we will see TWW streams/videos again before Part 3 releases. In the meanwhile i will watch other Warhammer streamers content. Hope to see you again in the future.
This was pretty great. Worth sticking around for that ending and honestly these games showcased how some underrated factions can shine with a little bit of inventive gameplay. Can't wait for the next one!
I'm really impressed with how good you are at casting this game considering how recently it was released. Looking forward to a lot more AoE 4 content in the future; it'll be a great way to pass the time until Warhammer 3.
Dude I'm so hype to watch! Even if I don't finish every stream, every bit of new content from you is welcome indeed
judging by your profile picture, you should enjoy this guy's content lot ! there is like a "good anikin good" everyday.
and i just love it
@@erichtofen2992 Gooooooood Richtofen goooood, witness the firepower of Turin's fully armed and operational haggard streams.
1:59:40 "If you guys were wondering, the English get really scary at the Imperial Age." Oh, we know. The world knows.
@BftBG777 He was making a joke about the British Empire taking over the world my man.
Of course, they mass spammed Longbows for it and no one really knocked them out early
Delhi had a lot of good picks but the economy difference was astronomical.
This format's currently great because we're still figuring out the factions, so when specialist players come in with unseen strats it's doubly exciting for me. Not only do we get a game between good players but we're seeing cutting edge experimentation that's not the familiar meta plays we get in regular formats.
Agreed!
Just getting into all of this. I loveee watching AOE4 so far. I must say this format is much more fun watching, more of a ”storyline”.
I've been playing this game so hard since launch. Still just challenging the AI, since I'm an RTS noob, and going all with Delhi, but gradually, I'm more reliably winning against Hard, and will make the switch to Hardest AI, and then finally, the dreaded ladder.
But all of this is because you decided to feature it on your channel. Otherwise I'm certain I'd have let this game slip by.
Goooood!
I did the same thing as you! I practiced only with Delhi (using Szalami - the player casted in this video - as heavy inspiration) and learned to beat hard, then hardest AI. Finally I made the switch to ladder to see how I would do, and just to warn you - i was able to EASILY win the first 6-7 games I played. Many people on the ladder are indeed worse than even the hard AI. If you can go toe-to-toe with Hardest AI, then you are already well above several tiers of skill in the multiplayer quickmatch so far.
@@SteveK36 Hell yes, glory to the Sultanate! And Szalami's plays are mad indeed!
And alright, that's good to hear, so thanks for the tip! I can beat the hardest AI on most maps with decent reliability, but have still been afraid of getting my feet wet. But I think getting a few wins will help quell my apprehension and let me properly develop some more skills.
These aoe4 tournament formats are fun. Thanks. I don’t have a computer anymore. So this is huge for me since I started playing computer RTS games as a child.
Yes Turin remembers those RTS games, I was telling my wife about how the worm sign thing still triggers me. Gotta look around and save my crawlers from those bastards.
Omg yes. And the building only on concrete! What a classic rts.
I love seeing the same matchup played in multiple games to get a stronger sense of the full range of possibilities.
It’s so enjoyable to watch these factions being played by top tier players. Truly amazing tactics
This game looks amazing and I rly enjoy watching it. Gold content as usual Turin!
awesome commentary and nice matches.
may i suggest an empty anti spoiler 30 minutes addition to the end of the video? it's used often for many tournaments, to make it unclear if there's a third match by the length of the video.
while i was moving the video forward for the 2nd round of the final match, the video's length made it clear who was winning second of the three in the final.
great work
I'm amazed at how Szalamii1 picked a faction where all the starting infantry can build walls, and didn't set up any around his base. Just Sacred Sites.
What do I press on my keyboard in order to create a mass rally point for all of my military producing buildings without having to select each manually?
@@rahilanees2343 F1 or put them in a control group
@@rahilanees2343 I use F1 to select all, but then put them to control group, because on F1 the game auto focuses on the buildings.
other hotkeys: F2 all resource buildings, F3 military upgrades, F4 all TC-s.
Nyancat Vs Iammagic was such an awesome bo3... The 15 scout battering ram archer push on full feudal was so much fun to watch. Big Brain
Good games. Wonder when some balancing patches will be coming.
Ah "The horribly slow murderer with the extremely inefficient weapon". A classic
Yes!! XD
Friendly Critic. I can hear your voice eching in the room you are in. I reccomend looking into mic accessories and even editing in post. Great job tho. :)
Just realized this was casted two years ago. you sound a lot better in your recent videos haha
Lovin all these streams, you’re killin it man
I watched your previous videos found so much about the game. Can someone tell me how to participate and sign up for the tourney?
discord.gg/RdTupKJh
@@turinRTS Thank you so much. Sorry for the lame question I just wasn't home enough to find out on my own was out of time for 2 days. Keep it up man.
Can I still play in the tournament? How can I join?
The banner made me think there would be HRE business happening, and I was disappointed when it didn't.
Where I can find this game
Love the commentary often just listen whilst doing other things and still know exactly how the match is going. Do I know this voice from starcraft or dota?
It's super interesting to see a rush to t3 with English and how impactful some generic Knights can be vrs archers. Even without upgrades, they seem pretty effective. Good counterplay from his opponent though!
Awesome commentating :) hope to catch one of these casts live
Tomorrow!
Sting played Feyd Rautha in David Lynch's Dune.
I didn't play the RTS games, but I did briefly play the collectible card game that was out for maybe five seconds circa 1998. It was... not great.
Love this format!
That Delhi vs England game was painful. Delhi could have ended it so many times!
But the Mongol deny of French knights was brilliant.
His discord is quite difficult to find. Still haven't had any luck.
“Springald” more like a chad scorpion. The best unit in age of empires 2
GAZUNDHEID! mate... Was a blast to watch again...
I think some boulder bay maps would be fun to watch gives civs a chance to play to their strengths
I would love to see a Byzantine faction. A lot of fun stuff you could do with that
They are in the game as the Holy Roman Empire! They are pretty great from what I've seen
The sacred site is providing gold ?
Yeah 200 gold per minute for delhi and 100 gold per minute for everyone else.
1:03:05 scouts have expendible trait lol gr8 vid
I'm not even clear what the Mongols were spending all their gold on in the first match.
traders maybe?
Love the upload, but guys for future videos, timestamps with the player's names, the factions they play and the name of the map would be an amazing addition. cheers!
I actually hate France as a faction, their economy is almost impossible to keep up with since they get so many workers so fast, the hulks give them naval dominance early shutting down your fishing, the knights are way too powerful for how early you get them and on top of that can self heal, they have no real weakness.
The only ways I've seen them beat is from crazy all out rushes or the player just being bad at the game, they need a nerf badly.
France has problems against Mongol, HRE, Rus & Abbassid, they're strong and some of their stuff may be overtuned but not to the point of unbeatable.
Turin you, Aussie Drongo, Heir of Carthage, Grubby are the best of all time.
Very nice video great casting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I definitely prefer people playing as "main's". It's much easier as a viewer to be a fan of a "Faction/Race", than it is be fans of a "player". So as an observer, you care way more about how, say, the Mongols are doing, compared to how "John Doe" is doing. Later, you might become a fan of "John Doe". But only if you come to recognize him as a good Mongol player (or whatever Race it is)
Brings me back to the good old days, wish they didn't overprice this game at 80$ though. Can't in good conscious spend so much on what, in these days, is a fairly simple game. Even AoE2 had 13 races at launch, this one just has 8....for 80$.
Honestly i just think the mongol player was at a significantly higher level, you can see it clearly in the idle times for vills and just the apm.
the english vills were constantly idling sometimes for minutes before the English player noticed and re assigned them. The mongol player's units always had commands and were never idle.
there were also many times when he chased the mongols army with his vills which was putting him behind eco wise massively.
Plus going full eco on a map that's bad for walling against a player you KNOW will rush you is pretty brain dead by the English player in the second game.
Overall the English player only knew how to play one way, rush to imp and zerg the opponent, any barrier to that and they died pretty easy.
Once I heard it I could not unhear it: "...while English have their 6 fish n chips"
the Mongols never reached the French
"The dreaded french knights harrass the poor mongols" Historical sense facepalm against AoE4 logic...also, that alpha english ladies made my day
From 26:12 to 26:30, is awesome
Smashing Pumpkins references!
Downloaded game, excited to play it.. but I didn't checked it doesn't run on older windows than win 10 (facepalm) :D Will join the age tomorrow .
Please read: I've been coming up against the feudal age battering ram rush -- where I should be able to easily defend by garrisoning units in TC and mowing down the squishy enemy units with my TC attack. Instead TC just fires brainlessly at the battering rams, no matter how many times i right click the enemy archers/horsemen... Wtf!!
TC always aim for closest target. Its target cannot be changed until the initial target is dead if I am not mistaken
This is something I have noticed quite a lot in the games I have watched & as a common complaint, which is TC & Keeps having no ability to toggle targets so they fire into whatever is closest, usually being what you don’t want shot...
This should hopefully be changed in the future.
@@absolutelyyousless7605 Yeah it is quite annoying. Does keep have the same issue?
@BftBG777 i play Delhi Sultanate and it seems i have nothing to counter the feudal age ram rush. English longbows for example murder everything i have until castle age. But if i fast castle then the ram rush would just end me before i get there. What kinda decision was that- Relic made- that buildings cannot manually fire; or did they just forget to include it in their final game 😡
@@tomblack2064 if your micro can hold it's often worth it to rush the ram with villagers.
The yam network is pretty cool. I prefer the sweet potato network though. :)
That first Delhi game was painful. All those free upgrades just ignored.
some tunes at the start man i like it
Mono Faction Format is great!
great choice of music.
Anyone getting rammed by Kurultai? Little tip here from a mongol player. For the Kurultai to give the buff aura, the Khan needs to be in range of the aura itself. So if you notice your mongol opponent is not microing his Khan, just snipe him with focus fire and the Kurultai becomes useless. Hope it helps someone out there and for my fellow mongols, I'm really sorry lol
A Personal side note: If I were Nyan, I personally would split my prize with IAmMagic. I don't know, this would just feel right. Honour is worth more than money imho. GG WP - Nice tourney!
nice video!
Rus can smash the French on water maps. Just play keepaway with your fishing boats and try to hide in map corners. As they don't need to return to drop off food you can completely forgo villager food farm
I am normally not necessarily for nerfs, since I think that in an ideal world, the other factions just need buffs, so the differences get more accentuated (instead of everything get nerfed to be pretty much the same). That beeing said, France is just stupidly OP from what I have seen, they just get EVERYTHING. This needs to be nerfed or France just should be banned from Tournaments imo.
When will u ever do a 2v2? I've been trying to watch others for the content but they keep playing the game and not spectate. At least once
I usually like to get chicken breast and roast beef when I play with the Deli. :)
Imperio español? para cuando?
it is interesting format, but it wouldnt be nice if ppl choose like france versus france and all we get will be france
Its randomized brackets!
Then i want to see more of it
:)
Should do water maps only tournament some time.
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What about a Highlander ""
honestly Szalami was the goat imo
hey you stopped calling it uvu? :D good video
uwu :3
Dang no abbasid gameplay guess it makes sense though. They're kinda bad but my fav!
they are good! Tomorrow I have an abba vid
Mongols are the biggest trolls in the game.
Played at least 20 mongols match and don’t know kurultai is such a big clown fiesta circus
AGE ARE EEE!!!
i like the mono faction format, because everyone who can chose chooses french or english and ... well they aren't that interesting
Downside of that, is only 1 can qualify for each fac, so its more comp
GG WP
I’m officially a NyanRacinCat fan 💜
Is it only me or he is calling the entire time Szalamy - Islamy?
lol not there yet but that'll defo make me laugh more than once xD
While that english player had competent eco, his army composition and micro were depressingly appalling. In fact it was so stupid, I couldn't stand watching, my forehead was hurting from facepalming.
Hahaha fuck I'm trash at this game lol
Mongols 4 life
Simtom played so bad he stood no chance in finals vs IamMagic. Even Nyan was able to beat him. Just shows how weak Delhi civ is currently. Nyan vs Magic felt like a game between pros while Delhi vs english felt like english just screwing around, giggling and running circles around delhi savoring those salty delhi tears knowing theres nothing they can do.
annoying commentary
Agreed!
You know..... its really sad to see only AOE Videos now. I like more strategic games where you can not reproduce lost units. That´s why i like TWW 1+2 so much. I know i won´t like TWW 3 so much as 1+2 because of the unit respawn functions and such things but will still love TWW 3. Hopefully we will see TWW streams/videos again before Part 3 releases. In the meanwhile i will watch other Warhammer streamers content. Hope to see you again in the future.
You will man! Just taking a break for a weak or two to cover this!
why do you blaspheme so much :( i dont mind swearing but taking the lords name in vain is a bit sad
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