Simon Neale (AKA Dave Spoon/Shadow Child) showing why he has been able to make the often impossible move between genres. An excellent producer, also not afraid to give away a few secrets. Pretty jealous of that studio too...
God how i would love to have a studio like that, just because it's a place to leave all the troubles upstairs and dig into a creative world were nobody gives u shit
Can anyone help me here, if im putting say a limiter or compression on a drum bus, how do i avoid the kick losing it's punch over the other drums without having to drop the volume of said drums really low? Cheers
There are different ways of doing it. One possiblity is to play with a short attack time (but be careful of pumping). The other possibility is to add after the compressor a transient designer to get the kick back and the third way is the use of the filtersidechain function which many compressors offer. With this function you can tell your comp on which frequencies it has to work/react. In practice you will often have to use all three possibilities combined. And never use a limiter during mixing. A limiter is mainly a mastering tool and for mastering engineers it´s a desaster if a limiter was used during mixing. Use a bus comp with a ratio of 2:1 or max 4:1 because otherwise you will lose all of your dynamic and with that the live of your music.
Thanks alot, the filter sidechain sounds like it can save a lot of time. Also, is there anything you could suggest to apply to the master track for boosting as im always seeing what i cant do rather than what i can or should i just leave it dry and keep all boosting to mastering? Thanks again
andii194 You can add an EQ and also a bus comp to glue all the tracks and stems of the song together. For the comp just use a 2:1 ratio to get the glue effect.
Those complaining should watch In The Studio with Martin Garrix. Zero creativity, he almost has no idea what he did there and, as a bonus, pirated Sylenth1!
He didn't claim that he was gods gift to music though, which is the vibe I get from this guy. Garrix created a simple, original track using the most basic of tools, the fact that he made it all unique speaks volumes about his raw talent, but not necessarily skill.
nicsevern Exactly. Garrix was able to dig through all the clutter (a mass of audio production tools) to actualize a highly attractive idea from his mind. He is able to understand the general purpose of the tools and use them in a most efficient and effective manner. The fact is, there are lots of people who labor over studying and learning all the tools without ever really having an exact ideal to work towards (or an idea that anybody else agrees with). They get stuck at the lower levels and can never reach a higher level of thinking.
Calvin harris still uses Logic 8 f.e. ... it's what your most comfortable working with .. see all these guys NOT switching to Logic X .. it's 'logical' :)
the sound quality should be better. it honestly sounds incomplete. The 4th kick drum squashes out and is really obvious and distracting among other things. Maybe I miss the "artistic" point of view with the sound quality thing. just a thought, no h8 but why not make it sound amazing?
Always find Shadow Child a bit hit and miss, and this remix is definitely a miss for me. The bassline sounds like he's just playing random notes on a keyboard, no groove there.
Actually ...I am quite well known. I am just incognito, how I like it. Regarding boosting EQ, you are going to run into phasing issues. Go and research it and while your at it learn something about audio engineering before you open your mouth on subjects you know little about. This track sounded totally rubbish.
When you limit your master you reduce dynamic headroom to your ears. Putting anything on a 'master' channel is dumb anyway, for other reasons. Professionals bus mastering tools and producing into a limter for 'volume' only shows up you amateur engineering knowledge.
I not a professional but I have been producing for 4 years. While it is true that most audio engineers suggest you do not limit the master channel it is a technique used by a lot of electronic music producers. It certainly does lower the dynamic range I agree with you there but producers make up for it by boosting high hats ect. Anyway it is not about how you produce it is about what the finished work sounds like. Music doesn't have an instruction manual. :)
we NEED absolutely need an 'In the studio" with Tchami that would be epic !!! who agrees?
Simon Neale (AKA Dave Spoon/Shadow Child) showing why he has been able to make the often impossible move between genres. An excellent producer, also not afraid to give away a few secrets. Pretty jealous of that studio too...
***** i had no idea it was dave spoon ! usto play alot of his stuff
So thankful of these videos, and shadow child, wouldn't be producing how I am now if it wasn't for him, picked up so many tricks from him
Another great Shadow Child video. In The Studio with Switch... That would be another amazing tutorial!
This is my absolute favorite track breakdown, explanation video ever. Simply because I use reason and logic together.
Thanks for sharing. It's always nice to see others workflow.
Love hes music!
Thx FM for this video
Amazing artist. Dont see why people have a problem with him he makes great music thats simple but still the best in the game
Is that baseline in the same key as the vocals?? I'm having a hard time swallowing that...
Also, why no conga use?
Can anyone explain how he did that "trippy, tape delay, messed" up effect he has layering the vocal? I love that sound but cannot mimic it on my own.
Anybody know where i can get a copy of this?
Love your FM! Sweetening my meal....
I can't find that vocal transformer in Logic Pro X help would be appreciated.
Is there a big difference in the tempo you choose, ex: 124 or 126 like u said, when using processed vocals? Jus wondering your input on that subject
God how i would love to have a studio like that, just because it's a place to leave all the troubles upstairs and dig into a creative world were nobody gives u shit
FUCK.
YES.
Shadow Child uses Reason.
Dat's gangsta
What does he mean when he says, "It's just a really low sub, with low-end encouragement?" He duplicated the vocal layer, and EQ'd one of them?
what is that outro song
THE MAN!
best be believing on studio please !
what drum synth is he using?
Can anyone help me here, if im putting say a limiter or compression on a drum bus, how do i avoid the kick losing it's punch over the other drums without having to drop the volume of said drums really low? Cheers
There are different ways of doing it. One possiblity is to play with a short attack time (but be careful of pumping). The other possibility is to add after the compressor a transient designer to get the kick back and the third way is the use of the filtersidechain function which many compressors offer. With this function you can tell your comp on which frequencies it has to work/react. In practice you will often have to use all three possibilities combined.
And never use a limiter during mixing. A limiter is mainly a mastering tool and for mastering engineers it´s a desaster if a limiter was used during mixing. Use a bus comp with a ratio of 2:1 or max 4:1 because otherwise you will lose all of your dynamic and with that the live of your music.
Thanks alot, the filter sidechain sounds like it can save a lot of time. Also, is there anything you could suggest to apply to the master track for boosting as im always seeing what i cant do rather than what i can or should i just leave it dry and keep all boosting to mastering? Thanks again
andii194 You can add an EQ and also a bus comp to glue all the tracks and stems of the song together. For the comp just use a 2:1 ratio to get the glue effect.
Thankyou very much! Great advice.
does somebody knows how to make that bass in the drop with massive !?
Iceman-car Yes. But you can do it with any subtractive synth that has square waves and sine waves...heck, even FM synths can do this.
obviously fm synths can do it, he said it was a sample from an fm synth m8
SOMEONE LINK ME TO A SAMPLE OF A YAMAHA DX100 NOW!!
Nice shirt!
Those complaining should watch In The Studio with Martin Garrix. Zero creativity, he almost has no idea what he did there and, as a bonus, pirated Sylenth1!
He didn't claim that he was gods gift to music though, which is the vibe I get from this guy. Garrix created a simple, original track using the most basic of tools, the fact that he made it all unique speaks volumes about his raw talent, but not necessarily skill.
nicsevern
Exactly. Garrix was able to dig through all the clutter (a mass of audio production tools) to actualize a highly attractive idea from his mind. He is able to understand the general purpose of the tools and use them in a most efficient and effective manner. The fact is, there are lots of people who labor over studying and learning all the tools without ever really having an exact ideal to work towards (or an idea that anybody else agrees with). They get stuck at the lower levels and can never reach a higher level of thinking.
nafixisntright zzzzzzzzzz you are boring.
nafixisntright god, what a bunch of clichés
Thank you! Literally, Martin Garrix is terrible, especially compared to Shadow Child
I love reason.
Gesaffelstein, Simon Patterson, Will Atkinson, Joseph Capriati, Alan Fitzpatrick.. A few I'd like to see ;) Ummet Ozcan aswell
Still using Reason 5? WTF man.
Whoops my bad, saw the mixer channels over the instruments.
Calvin harris still uses Logic 8 f.e. ... it's what your most comfortable working with .. see all these guys NOT switching to Logic X .. it's 'logical' :)
Apparently Mozart used parchment and a quill. What a noob :P
REASON RULEZZZzZz!!!!!!!!!
this vid is 23 min llong i feel like thats ironic haha
Haha so true
Why is that?
thanks :)
but please film the screen not the man who work :)
wtf
more of this less of #edm garbage. Cheers
Why logic instead of 10?
sweet jourdanbordes
the sound quality should be better. it honestly sounds incomplete. The 4th kick drum squashes out and is really obvious and distracting among other things. Maybe I miss the "artistic" point of view with the sound quality thing. just a thought, no h8 but why not make it sound amazing?
Dat sub at 14:40! Mmmmm, yummy.
Always find Shadow Child a bit hit and miss, and this remix is definitely a miss for me. The bassline sounds like he's just playing random notes on a keyboard, no groove there.
Sorry not my kind of music, there seems to be no Oomff.
Produces into a limiter. Additive EQ etc etc. Has no clue. No wonder it sounds like shit.
Haha looks like we have an expert over here..
lol there are no absolute rules, you can boost EQ, it is not the end of the world. No one knows who you are and he is successful. BYE.
Actually ...I am quite well known. I am just incognito, how I like it. Regarding boosting EQ, you are going to run into phasing issues. Go and research it and while your at it learn something about audio engineering before you open your mouth on subjects you know little about. This track sounded totally rubbish.
When you limit your master you reduce dynamic headroom to your ears. Putting anything on a 'master' channel is dumb anyway, for other reasons. Professionals bus mastering tools and producing into a limter for 'volume' only shows up you amateur engineering knowledge.
I not a professional but I have been producing for 4 years. While it is true that most audio engineers suggest you do not limit the master channel it is a technique used by a lot of electronic music producers. It certainly does lower the dynamic range I agree with you there but producers make up for it by boosting high hats ect. Anyway it is not about how you produce it is about what the finished work sounds like. Music doesn't have an instruction manual. :)