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It's actually surprising fender would send it to Mr. Scott, who is a vintage purist. Then again, I suppose if you can convince him, you can convince others?
That was my first thought.
Blimey that was brave Fender
He has a huge audience, not surprising at all. $$$
I think Matthew is one of perfect players on UA-cam to demonstrate this piece of gear against the real deal vintage stuff.
Smart to send it to someone who has a good channel, plays like a monster and doesn’t use this type of gear. I can’t play anything like him but I’m pretty clueless to modelers and all the digital do dads. I have an HX Stomp and don’t enjoy navigating the menus. Smart of Fender. Bummer it’s priced where it is even if it is comparable to other similar products at this price point.
The people at Fender seem pretty cool and are trying to keep the history while moving into the future. I appreciate the opportunity to try this new stuff despite my dead pan delivery, it was pretty fun.
If anyone is interested; you can change the amp settings or pedal settings using the physical knobs on the board rather than the touch screen.
Dear Fender, if you reading this. I really appreciate you don't push youtubers to say how you new gear is so awesome and you can't tell the difference, etc. Just wanted to say - i absolutely adore that clean Fender sound and this box you've come up with is doing it so good, and it's one of the most beautiful things in the world. And as i still can't get enough of my Mustang V2, i'll definitely get myself a ToneMaster when i'll have a chance. Love you, guys. And absolutely love your beautiful playing, Matthew.
This is a great comment and very True! Love it!
I have a fractal and there’s a serious learning curve and it’s crazy expensive. This looks a lot more user friendly which is really nice.
Easiest interface I ever worked …very like the Quad, which I also have.
I was a long time denigrator of digital amplification (digital effects were okay). But about a year ago I decided to explore amp modelling. Here’s what I did: First I went the cheapest route, because I was sceptical of why most of the popular modellers are so expensive. People crap on the Zoom products, but I’ve done extensive comparisons, and believe me, $1500 amp modellers *really* don’t sound much better than the Zoom MS50. They all sound digital (fizzy/sizzley on top). They all have that sound of a miked or recorded amp that you’re listening to on a monitor rather than an amp in the room with you. So, given that, it’s ridiculous that people will go for the most expensive options out there. The key thing I have found is that you have to forget about the presets. They are all going for a fully produced sound, like on a recording. Instead go straight to a basic amp with No effects, and start building a sound from there. Next, keep the gain down. What I’ve found is that most of the amp models can sound decent to quite good, at clean to edge of breakup tone. The more dirty you try to get them, the more they sound fizzy and digital in the treble, and the more you have to struggle with EQing to try to get them sounding decent. My current digital model of choice lately is a Brownface Vibroverb in the Zoom. Again, set to edge of breakup, with a bit of subtle room reverb behind it, is a great base tone. Adding a moderate spring reverb in front and/or a very subtle slapback (with a dark repeat) thickens the sound nicely. A mild clean boost adds a nice articulate bite without it sounding fizzy. I think why the sound of most of these modellers fails, is user error. You got all these options built into a unit, and the temptation is to push it over the top, but subtlety is the key. Btw, I never use the overdrive or distortion pedals in the unit. Those are totally the weakest link. Alternatively, and surprisingly, some of the best effects in it are some of the ones most pedal companies fail at doing well - the Rotary speaker effect and Univibe are remarkably good, especially when you consider that each effect in the unit works out to cost about $1, and there are really bad Rotary and Univibe pedals out there that cost hundreds. Also, the Tape echos are quite good. Another thing I think people don’t think about is that if you have some issues with some tones of some effects, you can stack graphic or parametric EQs and/or compressors before or after in the chain, and tweak 90% of issues away, easily.
Thank you Scott for this honest review... Very pleasant to hear a guy like you demoing that gear, with no commercial pressure and going straight to the point !
What I like about it is the vast number of different amps & effects you can use. Plus bringing that to a gig is a lot easier than toting all the amp heads & speaker cabs. Especially the older vintage high dollar ones.
Great balance in your review. Thank you, Matthew.
This guy's playing gets better every video. You can really see his practice routine come through in this one 🤟. Tip for the players: don't start your guitar life off with pure practice routines; learn enough to play and create an ear and feel for what you love (this will help you develop your own style of playing and integrate your influences as a player as well) fact: you will get lovesick and wont be able to put your guitar down instead your guitar turing into a frustration punching bag. only then you'll know exactly what you need to practice to become the player. I know I sound like I'm fantasizing but its true. Let's see if Scott agrees
I agree!
Very true. Been playing about 4-5 years. Just been learning theory and playing what I want and I know exactly what I need to learn to sound how I want. Definitely has made me a better player. Don't understand how players can't play every day
I wish you would have hooked it up to the matching powered speaker and just loaded an amp with no effects to dial in, more similar to the real thing and move some air
Great to see you laugh and have fun Matthew. Congrats on the album, can't wait to hear the tunes. ✌️❤️
Beautiful Said...
68yrs young & still playing, back in the day I used a Y-cord & pluged into both 100w ch. ,,, a waa-waa pedal , reverb and were good to-go....
So glad your releasing an album. Just bought a copy. Really looking forward to giving it a listen.
I'm looking forward to your album release. Yup, the modeling world is a whole new animal. It usually takes some tweaking to get close to the real amp sounds. Hundreds of rigs and portability at your fingertips for few dollars has its appeal. Thank you, Matthew.
nothing makes up for the glorious smell of ozone from tubes in their glory but that being said, i have a super reverb tonemaster that i like very much, especially every time i have to pick it up
Fascinating. Thank you Matthew.
First thing you really want to do with ANY MODLER,,,GO THRU ALL OF THE FACTORY PRESETS,,,THIS TELLS YOU EVERYTHING,,, I did this on the FM3 ,,,,it takes a while to go thru all of them . Its worth it.
Absolutely the best most well put opinion about digital stuff I have ever heard. Well done Matthew. Great review and great video as always. Thank you.
I just saw this thing the other day. I was wondering about it . Thank you for doing a review. The riffs are awesome too.
Thanks for reviewing the Fender ToneMaster pro. Greatly appreciated!!
It may not replicate a tube Fender amp, but it sounds excellent. I’m pretty picky and a bit of a tube snob too. This modeler is top notch.
Side note, your The Edge playing, while obvious that your not a player of his music, sounded actually pretty cool. You added some 60s vibe along with open string playing, something Edge could build off for a song.
always a pleasure to listen to you man
yo Matthew, to your point about moving air through speakers- every modeler sounds & feels better (and closer to what we're used to) when you plug it into a power amp and through your traditional cabinet that you're already used to playing (not FRFR, that's wack). then you're moving air and have whatever flexibility the modeler gives you. it's best of both worlds i highly recommend playing it that way
Thanks for educating me. I think I need to give that a try before I can make an opinion. But what do you mean by FRFR?
@@MatthewScottmusic Look that one up, from what I have heard and read, they are a more PA type speaker platform. I feed my old Vox Tonelab SE thru the front of my Vox AC30 and it is just like Whatever amp you select, the key is to put your actual amp at a real Clean Neutral Setting. And use the Tube amp. volume knob to give you what is comfortable to YOU. You must like Really High Volume. I use mine at lower Talking volumes and it sounds like a Marshall Stack turned way down. It really does WORK, the Fender unit has the best interface I have seen yet, several ways to dial in FAST. And on a Gig that Counts, and what it shows on a Computer Screen is also the Same as the unit only Bigger. Tech. is just phenomenal these days. You can make a guitar feedback and have overtones and all that playing the Amp. and the Guitar too. It DOES WORK.
@@MatthewScottmusic FRFR is Full Range Flat Response. it's essentially the same EQ curve as a PA speaker, so it's presenting MANY more frequencies than our traditional guitar speakers (eminence/celestion/etc) are pushing out. that's where the cab sims come in- they put back that guitar-centric curve so it sounds familiar. but's still very different (and not my preference) -
so that's why i always recommend people just use your existing cabinet (since you already like it and are used to the sound/tone/EQ it puts out). so that's one more familiar part of the equation and you only have to learn 1 new piece (the modeler) instead of 2 new pieces (modeler and FRFR cabinet). basically, I run my modeler (Fractal FM9) through a power amp like a Fryette or Duncan PS into my normal marshal cabs and trust me it sounds killer and exactly like what we expect from big loud rock guitar. the cool part is if you want to expand and try out new sounds that might not have been possible with our traditional gear, you can also do that with these current modelers using expression pedals assigned to things like delay/verb/panning. I also play/sing in my trio and it's been fun working those options into a traditional guitar trio scenario.
I also play 40 year old fender amps and oranges so i'm not on one team over the other. at this point in 2023, both traditional tube amps AND modelers are all cool and fun. they all inspire us to keep playing guitar which is where the important part is :)
lemme know if you have more questions about deep diving into modelers and/or combining them with normal cabinets. i'm using both in live scenarios. happy to share what i've learned or add clarity to any aspect of this side of gear
Honest;ly one of the best reviews of any product I've seen. Outstanding.
I have the Super Reverb Tone Master amp and it surprisingly holds up to my tube amp pretty good, but I agree there is just a little extra something you get from a tube amp. Can't wait for the record!
Matthew I've been listening to your record non-stop since it came out, thanks for rocking out!
I'm impressed that they managed to faithfully capture the sound of a rubbing voice coil with the speaker sim.
😂😂
That looks like days of fun!!
Huge fan watched your channel for years! Thanks
I think there are fewer and fewer living situations where you can crank a tube amp loud enough to hit its sweet spot. I think that is also true of stages and studios. Modeling amps are here to stay and more and more manufacturers will need to offer them (just like every car company needs to build EV's) I think Fender is smart in ONE offering the Tone Master Amp series which offers simplicity, and familiarity and quality. And TWO offering this new pro level modeler which has thousands of options. Fender is selling whatever you think you need, real tube amps, tone master copies of those (I have a Tone Master Twin Reverb blonde), and a new pro comprehensive modeler. The tone is out there. Matthew, I love your new album!
The pedal buttons are also enabled as knobs for the amps and effects. Maybe try running through the amp cab they sent along with the modeler box. Is this thing the equivalent of a tube amp? YMMV...
Your a young man who is not dazzled by todays tech You prefer old vintage stuff over new which I think is awesome But it is a tool and I hope that you find things on it bring a new nuance to your sound
Really honest review. Thanks Matt!
Cool demo! I have been watching videos of this for days. I was thinking of all kinds of $1000+ amps. Now, I think that will do it all! Much appreciated.
Just about the response I expected from you, lol, I mean I love your playing, gear demos, guitar repairs, etc, and I don't think any vintage gear heads will ever really be converted over into the digital world, but its honestly some of the most amazing and accessible tones for brokies like me, being able to get tones out of Helix Native, or Neural DSP for $150 that otherwise would cost me $5500 and require me to have a whole house/studio dedicated to playing loud ass amps which is just not possible, hearing the tones out of this thing made me excited and happy about the future of modelers the tones sounded beautiful same as your playing, and I assume most of what you have a problem with is that feeling of playing loud with goosebumps and feedback, but I would challenge you to play this modeler as a preamp into the power section of one of you favorite amps and cabinet, then use only effects from it on the front end, overdrive etc, and crank it just like you would a normal head. I bet you'd be surprised. also, the stomp switches are all knobs so you don't have to drag on the touch screen. much love man, keep on creating!
The UA Dream seems to have accomplished this. There are blind tests against real BFDRs and players are thoroughly fooled by it. I haven't experienced one and I agree all my other modeling attempts have fallen flat (I own 2 drip-edge Fenders, '69 PR and '68 Champ), but it definitely has converted some.
The tones were pretty cool overall despite my inability to really deep dive into this thing.
@@brandall101 why be converted if you have the real deal and are not too weak to carry your amps?
Matthew, thanks for that review! I am coming from the same place you are, the joy of playing real amps. But I live in an apartment, would like to make demo recordings quietly here, so I look at modeling gear every once in a while. I haven’t been able to get sounds I like out of the older Line 6 stuff I tried. The intuitive usability of this one has me interested. I really appreciated hearing you strip down some of the presets, and play just the Super Reverb amp model. Like you said, it sounds cool but at the same time . . . It’s a different thing. Like you also said, for a different world. Best discovery was you and your playing, though. Headed over to check your web site now. Congrats on the new album!
@@mohamedtlass3842 Because they're expensive and rare vs. a $400 pedal and some means of amplification that could simply be BOH - the reasons why anyone considers modelers, really. I in particular considering one as I've been traveling for the past year and have most of my things in storage.
FYI, the foot switches are also rotary knobs so that you don’t have to poke at knobs on the touchscreen.
Wish I knew that sooner 😂 stuck in the stone ages
That's kind of what I liked about it. You can easily punch the effects in and out with the footswitches and change parameters on whatever you select. Menu diving, sliding the finger up and down on fake knobs, and being stuck with all of the effects in the chain are what I always disliked about these sort of things.
Agree completely. I just love my old ampegs and orange heads and old 70’s peavey stuff to be fully on board with all these new modellers. 100% have some great practical uses depending on context but you can’t replace a proper amp you just can’t.
Thank you for your honest opinion Matthew.
Loved how you used the metronome! Every great guitarist uses one! Music, life and the universe is based on time!
Thanks Matt. Cool product. Keep on Rocking ✌️
Great demo Matthew 👍🏻
Great playing-- really good 👍
Hey Matthew - got the album today. What a brilliant debut. I don't listen to much contemporary but this has had two plays all the way through already. You and the band smashed it with some great song writing. Reminded me a bit of Marc Ford era Crowes but has your own unique sound. Hope it sells as well as it deserves. all the best Al
Al, that means a lot. Marc Ford is a hero of mine. I love the Crowes as much as anything. Thanks for listening.
Enjoyed this video, well articulated and honest opinion.
I'd like to see the Super Reverb played through the supplied 1x12 cab
Just to see how realistic it is when pushing air at volume
Playing direct into a desk is always a bit lacking for me
I've gotten into modelers over the last year and a half or so (HX family) and they're really fun for getting lots of tones if you don't have a 'base sound' from your rig. They sound great and I've gotten rid of some pedals and a few amps, but when I switch back to my 2 Fenders, I think "oh yeah, there it is." Modelers are great if you're using a backline - go for a clean tone at acceptable stage volume and just use the modeler as the preamp. Tube amps will always have their place imho
Yep. Real tube amps have "it"... and solid state still never does. But you are right. It's useful for work.
I admire your honesty.
Um yeaaah, ya make it sound stylish w/ your riffs that slay so I gotta get one!
Living in the real gigging world, where stage volumes are getting progressively more quiet, something like this is a nice-to-have. Fender will continue to support it... I hope... so there should be a lot of things added and optimized over time.
Guthrie Govan toured with Hans Zimmer without any amps.
Spoken as a true working musician. You opinion means the most.
Souls were crushed in this video. You forever stay true to yourself Matthew. Thats why we come to your channel.
Hopefully no souls were crushed. It's all in good fun.
@@MatthewScottmusic it just doesn't sound very 'alive' and it makes me nostalgic and also a bit sad to see that the masses, even in the guitar domain prefer quantity over quality. But that's just what I think.
Really enjoyed watching matthew sorta step out of his comfort zone and have some fun with this thing! Really cool to see something like this coming from fender as well
He almost came across as depressed by it?
Your strat sounds amazing.
It would be cool to see a follow up plugged into that powered speaker, an interesting product 👍
Hi! Thank you for doing this! It seems like a lot of fun fiddling around with that. The quality of modeling has really come a long way these last few years. It sounds good and in a mix with other instruments it sounds like the real thing(s) and it's easy and portable too. BUT for me, like you, I feel that the lack of feeling makes it so difficult to play these things. It's so dry and it feels like I'm playing barb wires or something. I have to work really hard to play good on these things while on a real tube amp it happens almost by itself...
I just made a very similar comment
I have a fractal axe fx and it doesn’t do clean amp tones convincingly when playing ., yes ., in the mix it can pass but , your point about , if while playing it doesn’t FEEL the same then it’s hard to be inspired , and when it’s not inspiring to play then I just lose interest
Bro the album is dope AF ! “Rest them old bones” is an incredible tune mate! You killed the vocal and guitar was screaming yet not over powering and HTAF can someone so young sing with such an old soul ! And to think you almost didn’t have a crack at putting your music out in to the world. One thing the record has already done is prove your career is settled mate your a musician for the rest of your days
You should be really proud mate
It’s the future! So why ignore it? Good review and a short introduction into this digital universe from an analog vintage gear specialist! Best playing btw. Thank you Matthew
I think one of the best recommendations for the Tonemaster may be Matthew’s surprised, pleased look when he first hits a lick on it.
Knowing your dedication for old Fender amps and instruments, this was always going to be an interesting perspective. I will now watch the vid.
Love your honesty, I feel the same way, as cool as some of these modelers are once you plug into a tube amp and feel the punch in your chest nothing will every compare.🤘😎🎸🏍
It's not the amp. What sucks the life out of modellers is that people tend to play them with cab simulation on and through a monitor; if you played a real amp that way it'd be horribly unsatisfying too (and I've done it; it's no fun at all).
I have a Kemper, and I turn the cabsim off and run it into a poweramp and out of a 2x12 cab, and it's a completely indistinguishable experience from playing a real amp. The physicality of playing guitar comes from what the speaker and the cab resonance is doing; whether it's a modeller or tube amp is irrelevant (as long as the modeller is good, and the technology is absolutely good enough these days).
I need to try it through a cab before making a judgement. Unfortunately, my inexperience in modelers and new technology really shows!
There's a gigging trade off. Tubes break & tube amps weigh considerably more than digital amps. I'll personally take the trade off in tonal purity (a thing that's already going to be seriously compromised by 9/10 venues anyway) for the lighter load in & the security of knowing i'm not gonna blow my tubes just to entertain 6 random wednesday night drunks at the local pub (who honestly can't tell the difference anyway).
@@strangebirdfilms yep , thats the issue with us guitarist/purist , we care about all those nuances in the sound , but if you play in a blues / rock cover band doing pubgigs none of the people in the audience will care about all that shit , as we all know . But still the purist inside you wants that certain sound , its a bit off a paradox i guess , i went for an tonemaster dr so i still have that idea i am playing through an "real amp " , i did put another speaker in it ( Jupiter 12LC ) and have done the firmware upgrade and i must confess its really close to the tubesound , but these modelers do not appeal to me and cost wise this solution ( modeler and frfr ) is way more expensive , for that kind off money you can almost by an handwired fender dr tubeamp , i would never buy one of there re issue or hot rod amps because of there flimsy construction though .
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I just love watching you play Matthew, brilliant fluidity that I can only dream of. Excellent and honest review of the product too. But for now I must make do with my roland micro cube. Keep up the good work dude 🎸🤠👍 PEACE
I have a blast with my Roland micro cube! I think Fender went for this modeling because it seems for live rigs this is the direction...especially seems true in contemporary Christian music....no amps on stage as much in churches! I love my tube amps.
I think it's a really good entry to that genre. I think for ease and versatility in many scenarios it is probably the way to go.
Your amps A+++ this is a C+. Lacks dynamics, dimension, silk, warmth, and inspiration
The youngest old soul with a strat... great review.
Nailed it. Dry is a great adjective. I’d use sterile, a bit like a lot of music nowadays. As you said, it suits the times.
It would be interesting you try disabling the CAB emulation then connect it into some power amp and then into real guitar cabs.
To me what you suggested is a must! Prior to forming a conclusion! Give the thing a fair chance!!
You can do that but also use the special cabs to color the tone a certain way, I used to switch thru cabs. 8 inch speakers/ 4x12's, 2 x 12's, 1x15, and feed it thru a Neutral clean on a Vox Ac 30, it would show the True Color of whatever you selected, and now these units have movable mics to cones, and different mics. it is really astounding the Tech. today. But for a old Purest, it has to go thru an old style amp. I still use my Vox Tonelab SE, unit for this. A plexi sounds just like a plexi, I used to own a Twin Reverb it is just like that Amp. Really Remarkable and at a Volume level you can tolerate, feedback even, makes a hollow body Howl, at a conversation level. Just Phenomenal. Wait til John Cordy posts his Review, he will have it Screaming. Leon Todd did a great review of this unit. Now that being said the success or failure of this unit is up to FENDER. With frequent updates and more Amp. it may Grow quickly. if they ignore it, well at 1600 dollars it will die on the tree.
@@ksharpe10One of my favorite setups is an Orange Micro Dark going through a Vox 1x10 cabinet. The Vox was a modeling combo that one of my best friends used for years. It decided to stop functioning one day so he took out the guts and turned it into a nice cabinet for me. He didn't bother fixing it for himself because he had just bought a very nice Paul Ruby amp. My ex-wife, about a year after our divorce surprised me with the Micro Dark because I had to sell my very first Orange amp so we could pay our bills because we had both been layed off and I wasn't letting us go homeless. I cried like a little girl on my way home from her house after she surprised me with the Micro Dark. I sold my first Orange amp nearly 20 years ago. I had no idea that she even remembered me having
to sell it but she did! Sorry for the Ted Talk but I hope you enjoyed it lol
Great video... 👍
Honest thoughts were nice, in both directions.
Loved the video - nice job. The Mission Engineering co branded and custom painted expression pedal is an obvious add on. The built in toe switch can be used to switch between volume and wah for example or switch one or more effects on/off. Will open up the control and creative power of the Tone Master Pro. The Mission SP1-TMP has a mono wired toe switch, that is needed
Just had one come in the shop, gonna put it through its paces this morning. Watching eating Breakfast. It's just another Modeler at the moment. Go on Matt me me want to go to work.
you are the best love u matt ❤🇧🇷
Love listening to Mathew noodle
Looks and sounds pretty cool to me! LOTS of stuff to route thru too tho!!!
I thought that sounded amazing, thank you!
Thanks for sharing your input on this product Matt. Your opinion goes a long way with me.
Sounds great, looks cool. Obviously it won't be exactly the same as real amps but I bet through a roaring PA in a band setting it would be incredible. Through headphones or a mobile phone speaker it's a different experience but probably comparable to a vintage amp listened to in the same way. Good job fender
Really good run through. I am also a vintage Fender amp guy, so you have the point of view I share/need to get a good idea as to whether or not I need to go try one of these in person. My buddy owns a good studio in Southern CA and they got the guys in after hours with all their guitars and basses to run through this. Immediately everyone hated the pre-sets. But they did find some very, very usable sounds when they made their own presets. The complaint from the vintage guys, as reported to me was "something wrong/harsh" in the very top end frequencies coming back through the studio monitors. They had to run it through the old board, and additional Neve cards I think.. (or similar) to start getting close. It got better when it went through some hardware vintage compressors etc. Seeing as you do that for vintage gear as well, this could safe a lot of time for the overdub guitars. Always keep the main track all real with lots of tubes and transformers in the studio chain, right? But overdubs... really good sounds could be there. Live on tour, this thing could save a lot of money in luggage weight fees. I'm not touring with my 50s tweed amps ever again. but I will with 60s and 70s .. so I can have a tweed capture ready to blend in for the monitors and FOH. If there was an option to capture MY OWN collection of amps I would be sold. thanks for this video, MS
That ToneMaster Pro is cool that it has so many different settings.
It'll be a miracle if their quality assurance teams can make sure these are flawless before they leave.
Matthew you’re a bad ass!
Haven't watched for a while Matthew - youv'e been practicing... Sounds good man.
Hi Matthew, thanks for taking the time to check this out! I was wondering what a person as yourself (who plays vintage and actual amps) would say of this. Personally I would never pay a near 2K USD for something that I can get better with a Helix for half the price. Thanks for your review and keep up the excellent work! May God bless you!
These modelers are always deep rabbit holes, but also a lot of fun. You can chase tones forever with these things. I think for all intensive purposes, a vintage guitar pairs up better with vintage amps. Modelers are great for convenience and saving valuable vintage equipment from wear and theft. You won't see guys like Greg Koch, Eric Gales, or Kingfish carrying around vintage gear, but they still sound awesome. Not that they're using modelers, It's just safer that way for them - endorsements help too. That fear of theft is always looming with vintage gear. Good quality new gear can take a load off your mind on the road, I'm sure.
Love your channel Matt!
Would love to see a follow up with your opinion using it throu the speaker cab if it gets anywhere closer to the feel and sound of tube vintage amps. You’re playing is inspiring!
I just love how that 59 of yours now is playing through modern fender tech made in 2023 🎉 cool!!
This is something that really intrigued me im very interested in this especially if it does bass guitar stuff
It's worth a shot. Bring your bass to a store and try it out.
Years ago l figured out that stuff made for guitar worked fine for bass. I used a Marshall Mosfet amp and cabinets for my bass.
This is cool
I think it's more useful for touring players since you can control everything to a very high degree and it's so portable
I think it's pretty cool that Fender is entering into the modeling mix. I too love and prefer my vintage amps but at my age moving around a twin reverb breaks my back.
Also I think modeling is pretty good these days but capturing is where it's at. In comparison to the real thing it's really hard to tell the difference even an isolation. Sure I'm not getting that awesome room sound but since I do control room recording anyway that doesn't matter much for me these days so the whole room tone thing is not really an issue for me.
"It's a new world." You pretty much said it all there.
Appreciate the candid review. You're a very organic player (I think of Chris Buck too) where what you're playing seems to be directly connected to your fingers. This review leaves little room for anything to hide and I feel like I can see it in your playing, like there's a hair of latency or something holding you back a touch. I wonder if you went through the FRFR with it that it would feel a lot better and more amp-like. Further, a 4x10 FRFR would probably be pretty cool. Thanks for being transparent and clear about the pros and cons.
I'm glad you did this review as you are very acquainted with that vintage Fender sound of a tube amp. I think Fender did a great job and concentrated on their own brands for the most part. The tone straight out of the box sounds believable. I have owned several classic Fender tube amps over the last 50+ years and just did a deep dive into a couple HeadRush pedalboard and gigboard for travel. I still plug them into my 62 or 65 Fender Deluxe, LOL! I like the tone of a tube amp. Crazy but you get it. As you explain in your video, "There's something that happens between the guitar the tube and the speaker. I think the Fender pedal sounds like the Tone Master series amps. Great video Matt!
Good Lord this man can play.
Nice bit of kit that
Saturation and breakup edge is impossible to replicate, enjoyed the review, thanks.
Best compromise of practicality, flexibility and tone I've found is using the UAD ox box cab sim in combination with proper tube amps
Fender sends you all sorts of cool shit lol
I’d love to see you jump into a Fractal. I don’t hate fender or anything as all my electrics are fender and I model fender amps. I’m impressed with the tonemaster amps themselves, not the GTX though. I think this thing will have a purpose, and it could be your lack of experience with it, but this doesn’t nail fender amps the way Fractal or Helix does from my ear (considering your recording software as well). Fractal is no doubt the juggernaut of the modeling nailing the right feel, I’d love to see you play one.
Cool review. Stick a compressor in front and you get some of that feel back. I agree with what you said though, modeling is all about the sound of an amp and cab mic'ed up and coming through a playback system. The thing where you are sitting in front of a cooking Super is not in there. But what you said at the end, it's about making music, and this gear allows us to do that in lots of different situations. It's a new world indeed. :)
I have a Fender Mustang Floor unit that I would say is a predecessor to this unit. Built in amp models and effects and an expression pedal.
Sounds great scooter
Maybe if you put your green pedal in the front you get much closer??? would enhance dynamics and non linearities