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The Russian contract Winchester M1895 rifle - shooting & hunting
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History, shooting and hunting with the Winchester model 1895 box magazine lever action rifle in focus, manufactured for the Russian Imperial Army in the first World War. Performance of the old 7.62x54R cartridge.
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They are actually more resiliant to dirt than Mosin. The rifle when the bolt is closed is pretty much sealed and mud cannot get in. Ian from Forgotten Weapons did mud test on M1895 and it performed much better than Mosin.
Also from what I heard and read they were very popular with Czechoslovak legionaries in WW1 and Russian Civil war.
The forgotten weapons test blew my mind.
The way they doing mud test are laughable. The truth is the Russian hate this gun and more likely to find its way to the second liner troops.
@@CSSVirginia Well, as with many other weapons it prooved again that tight fitting rifles and pistols are resiliant towards mud. P.08 Luger fired flawlesly because mud cannot get inside. Glock 17 died.... :D
Mosin and other bolt actions died also....
But I mean, once get mud INSIDE M1895 then you will be out of luck, because yes, its much harder to clean than Mosin. Thats why Czechoslovak legionaries liked it - they were for the most part very skillful and educated people who could service complex weapon like M1895. They also used a "lot" of Fedorov Avotmats that were in some sense first assault rifle. Because they could maintain it and exploit its strenghts.
@@Tadeas_Plachy I must say, with mud maybe yes in some instances the 1895 fares better, than bolt guns. But other elements, like snow is a death sentence for 1895 (and many others like pump shotguns). I would not know, but my first rifle I owned, was a sporterized 1895 in 8.2x53r. So the story goes, that I was hunting moose one time, on my skiis, found game, took the shot, worked the lever, ski slipped, I fell over with the action partially open and that was that hunting trip. Fortunately the shot I took missed, as the action was packed with snow, preventing me from closing it. Went home, serviced the gun and that was it.
Same thing happened with my S&W 916a, I fell over and snow filled the action through the loading port. No choice but to go home after that.
Since then I've been using my geco m/34 16gauge sxs, from 1941 as winter hunting gun and the 1895 sees, only deers during autumn, before snow and skiis. Husqvarna m46 is the moose killer now, but I made ww1 mauser inspired dustcover for it, just to be sure.
@@TheSpekkel1 Any gun is going to be screwed if the action is open when the fall into debris happens...
The guy's comment is when the action is fully closed it does a good job keeping any debris ingress from occurring.
Truly one of the classiest shooting channels on ytube.
Ditto!
Agree!!
Thats right, Heinz
Here and forgotten weapons are all you need.
@@Govanmauler add in britishmuzzleloaders on the list
I love how respectful of the animal you are once you’ve killed it, it’s the way I think all hunter should behave.
Florida Dad yes I do find the American hunters in full camo and tactical gear a bit goofy like as if the turkey is going to shoot back at you. I’m not a hunter or even a gun guy myself but it’s just nice to see someone who isn’t just doing it to mount a head on his wall or for a photo, but doing it to help control the population and keep it and the ecosystem healthy never taking more than he needs during a hunt, and of course he hunts to feed his family.
@@nate-otero correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly certain they use camo to blend in with the environment.
@@bookerdewitt4811 Camo not required for most game. The need to minimize your scent, keep movement down and breakup the human silhouette is more important. I truly love the respect for the animal and the classy clothing.
@@usnchief1339 yeah man don't get me wrong I love the classy look too, just might as well have a set of clothing that's good for all game like some camo that you don't mind getting dirty. That way you can save up on costs, and instead use it to buy more rounds and such. Just imho though.
Respect for the slain animal is a good thing. As I have gotten older, I find I do not feel good when I kill a vertebrate animal and that may extend to the invertebrates some day as I age even more. But it will always be hard to show love for our biting yellow flies that we have in northwest florida, usa.
If I were to choose a religion I would like it to have some elements of what the our first peoples in the americas practiced when they paid homage to the animal that they had slain for food. If you kill /destroy life, it should be out for need for food and not for sport or fun.
The elk hunt from last of the Mohicans where homage is paid to the slain elk that is a sign of respect even if the elk lost his life. See: ua-cam.com/video/g9oW0Nk7Dm4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RedReady By the way I am using the work Elk (=Red Deer in Europe) in the american sense and not for the Alce/elk or what we in the USA call a moose.
Ooof one of my dream guns. So rare here in the US
I just watched Ian's UA-cam video (Forgottenweapons) on the 1895 Winchester made for Russia for the 2cnd time. I have seen them sell for as little as $2,000 and up to $5,000 and I wish I had the spare cash for one as it is one of my dream guns as well.
I just want the stripper clip ability
I want a 1915 Russian contract the most, but really I would love to get any 1895 Winchester.
Yeah shame they are so rare to come by, they really are the most gorgeous and refined of the lever Guns
Mark Novak said the Miroku are capable making this gun brand new.
A true sportsman. Being thankful for the animals sacrifice. I've always done it. Great video as always.
Glad to read that. Most americans tend to not care and not value life in general.
@@peteraugust5295 I think that applies most people around the globe today who lives disconnected with nature? Actually I feel hunters respect life more than the average but that's just a guess.
@@solarapacifica991 Defnitely true for most hunters I met, although in the US there is more of a "Hurra, I am so great, look how I shot that damn deer bro!" as far as my experience goes.
@@peteraugust5295 Only in those silly commercial "hunting" shows. In real life few of us are like that.
@@MrEpeeFencer I hope and wish so.
Now we need the Gasser M1870 Revolver! That'll be one awesome Hard hitting handgun use by Austria-Hungary.
Agree on that!
What's interesting about it is the Gasser M1870 Revolver is more advance than any revolver at that period and fires six shots of 11.3x36mmR Cartridges.
I live in Wyoming (western usa) and lever guns, some even older than your 1895, are still quite popular for small and medium game. Glad to see that our European brothers are still going out and taking part in what many Americans take for granted.
A Winchester lever gun in 7.62x54, now I've seen everything. It's amazing how long that cartridge has been used.
This is best european hunting channel on youtube. Keeping tradition alive (from clothing to respect given to animal) and while showcasing beauty of nature over beauty of modern guns/scopes and all expensive additions. My grandfather raised me in a way to appreciate what you have before getting something new, as he said he hunted only with trusty side by side for 5 years and then with zkk 600 with his 4 times magnifying bulgarian scope and heavy czech ammo, this same rifle soon will be passed on me as it still is accurate, and I sometimes take out his now over 65 years old side by side. I like new things but nothing breaks tradition and some good old hunting style. Keep it up, nice to see so nicely made content
I really enjoyed the reloading process and sight reconstruction information. The history lesson on the Russian version of the rifle was news to me as well. I also enjoyed the piece you did on the Stutzen. My grandparents emigrated to Canada in the early 1900,s from Hungary 🇭🇺 so it was of particular interest to me to get a bit of insight into the terrain of your Country.
Keep up the fine productions.
Turkey hunters are the ones that crack me up. Full cammo, decoys, special gun, red dots or scopes (for a 30 yard max shot), scent blocker, calls, etc.. It's a wonder that any turkeys were ever shot in the 'old' days! :)
yeah, photos from areas where reflective vests are mandatory are always hilarious. Full tactical camo and a bright orange road worker vest
In the old days they often shot turkeys with a rifle
Turkey has full spectrum vision. The eye on a turkey is impressive enough that camo is needed.
Decoys are really needed given they attract fowls. Also it's an American folk art...
Modern synthetic stocked rifles have no soul or character. Thanks from South Africa.
Agree completely
Have the .405 Winchester and it’s a pleasure pulling the trigger ! Have fun with that old war horse and keep up doing what you do.
I must say that I truly enjoy these hunting videos that your make. You have a wise point of view on the hunt. So many today simply focus on the shooting and not the total experience of being in the wilderness. Thanks.
Last time I was this early Kolchak was still alive.
Always a pleasure to watch the work of a true sportsman. Thank you.
Wish everyone had this much respect for the hunt.
That opening was casual bad ass. Great rifle. Hard to come by and expensive in the USA.
I wanted an 1895 for some time, seems to be a great marriage of lever action and box magazine.
Thank you for this excellent insight. Hungary looks amazing.
It's a lovely country, wonderful people.
The Russian contract Winchester 1895 musket is probably my favorite lever-action, and it is awesome to see one on the hunt!
Musket??
@@joelerk6298 Musket was the designation given by Winchester to the long barrel variant
@@gaelan2k9 More specifically, the long barrel variant with full stock and bayonet lug. It was kind of a marketing gimmick to call them muskets, as Winchester was looking to convince the U.S. military and various state militias to replace their aging stock of muzzleloaders with these new rifles. I guess by calling them muskets, they made the new rifles appear more familiar and less daunting to upgrade to.
We had one of these rifles come through the shop I work in a few years ago. It had Russian Proof marks in the steel and Cyrillic characters carved into the butt stock. It was one of the most interesting rifles I have ever seen.
Amazing piece of history and one for my bucket list. My dad's first deer rifle was and Mosin Nagant new England Westinghouse hex made in 1942 I remember correctly.
Then in 1990 it became my first deer rifle,sadly I've never taken a deer with it. My great uncle bought it for my dad in 1955 58 for 30$ at 5$ per week. It's and absolute tac driver with and cheap scope mount and archangel stock. It was chopped or sporterized before my dad received it. So it was easy to continue to upgrade it. I also picked up and timney trigger that is actually quite impressive. I've been binding your videos all day. You sir are and true rifleman and a wealth of information. I've been reloading for the 7.62russ for years and never found and bad load. Currently I'm shooting and Sierra 220gr round nose bullet and will hopefully take a deer with it one day. The old norma 180gr Spitzer loads are quite accurate.
Every JMB Winchester seems imbued with some magic from the soul of the maker -
Thanks for the videos. You have the best black powder channel and shooting channel.
We get to see the rifle , especially the sights- barrel , as you say with the right bullet and load not as important as some say, (yeah maybe the crown ok ) we see the load, the shoot and hunt !
Also, very beautiful aesthetically, nicely composed, edited and narrated.
Good clean shot. Very littel suffering. Good sportsmanship.
One of my dream rifles. It's very expensive in the US. 3-5K
I totally agree with your approach of how to get most out of the hunt. In the society today, people often doesn't appreciate the challenge of using classic equipment.
Probably been said before but the rear sight is marked in Arshins not yards. 1.4 Arshins for 1 meter. The meter was adopted post Russian Revolution. I love the video and that rifle.
I purchased an 1895 in 1970 for $75. This was a US caliber 30-06 in breakdown. According to Winchester there were very few of these, less than 500. I shot that rifle for a few years and enjoyed it immensely, hope the person who stole it enjoyed it way less. That was one of the best shooting lever action rifles I ever owned. Thank you for the look back, it was great.
These are the best hunting videos on UA-cam.
Those red stags are amazing beautiful creatures. You are lucky to have them in your neck of the woods.
Seein' that ole Lee Tool was a real blast from the past for me (1969 specifically) I still got most of it and confess to using that decaper from time to time.
Beautiful country, beautiful gun what a way to spend a day! Game or no.
Man, I just love listening to you talk
The best videos on old guns,shooting and hunting with them.
This video is a blend of relaxation and the perfect aesthetic. Thanks for sharing!
Great respect for the animal shown by you... I didn't see you crimp the case neck as the final step in the reloading process, even a bullet without a cantilur ring benefits from a mild crimp. Fun fact, when introduced in 1958 the "Lee-Loader" kit held the Guinness book of world records for smallest rifle group ever fired for over 7-years. Fire formed cases neck sized only like yours to the parent rifles chamber are inherently better and give longer life with less frequent case trimming. I would suggest though getting a Lee case length gage/trimmer set (about 7 Euro's) for your reloading set. A good mild load for your gun would also be, 150 grain Sierra Game-King over 44.1 grains of Vihtavuori v-N140. This starting load produces 2540 feet per second, which can be worked up to a maximum of 49.2 grains for 2829 feet per second. I have a Lee-Loader for my Great Grand Mothers .30 Remington using the Factory #6 tang-peep. It is quite the tack driver with 150 grain Sierra pro-Hunter RNSP's.
It is great to see you with that gun! It was indeed a very interesting weapon as being lever action gun for intentions of a bolt action Mosin Nagant.
P.S. I hope you make a video about the Chassepot and other French rifles if you have some. I am a 19th century French military enthusiast.
I have a Chassepot on hand.
Another thumbs up for a Chassepot video.
@@capandball needle gun or converted? i have one that i have figured out how to reload with silk wrap....they shoot like the original.....ejecting everything out the muzzle
@@capandball Awesome!
@@tewdogs4475 The Chassepot means the needle gun. If converted, it is strictly a Gras (it needs a modified bolt, chamber, barrel). It is hardly a Chassepot.
I love the Lee reloading kits, that is how I got into reloading. They are extremely useful when you are trying to find that perfect load.
This and the Smith and Wesson Model 3 .Dream loadout .
Szép lövés volt. Gratulálok. Jó lenne több ilyen vadászós videó. Nagyon élveztem.
Wonderful video.
I am a fan of the 95 Winchester.
It is amazing to see you work to keep it relevant in this age.
Most honorably to see a huntsman respect the animals he hunts.
Beautiful gun. I have a 1899 dated Win 94 in 30WCF in very similar condition. The bore looks the same. It's a 26" octagonal barrel with a very very old Lyman tang sight- it's been there since the early days . With factory ammo and a lead reload it shoots well enough for my similar forest caused range conditions you hunt in. A hundred meters is a long shot here, and it does that easy. Even in it's depressed condition I feel fortunate I was able to over pay to own it. It has not hung on a wall, and oozes history.
I kind of agree with you, I love my modern hunting rifle but this old Ishapor Lee Enfield I got is just more fun and more of a challenge since it basically has WW1 era iron sights
You guys have no idea how badly I want one of these. Damn I need to win the lotto.
Sir, you are a gentleman...... wonderful to see the respect for your prey with the giving of a "last meal'..... :-) xx
I’ve had my eye on a Winchester 1894 to use in Arizona. I wanted a more traditional hunting rifle, and it’s also a popular cowboy rifle.
From getting the gun to shoot accurately to a good stalk, Well done!
Impressed by the accuracy of that workhorse!
Shoot a slower velocity bullet, that will raise your point of impact.
You can zero ANY firearm with just 3 rounds. Lock your weapon in a shooter's rest/cradle. Fire one round at your target. Now with your rifle still locked in place and the rest NOT moved, adjust the sights to align with your first shot. Now fire your second shot. It should impact next to your first shot. Now shift your rifle so you are aimed at your target.
Fire your third shot, it should be spot on.
a very true remark about the old way of hunting. waidmannsheil
ps: you can reload quite good ammo with the lee classic reloader.as show.i did 30-30 and 308 like that
Beautiful rifle, the magazine design is very unique for a lever action firearm.
Another fantastic video from capandball!
Bought for my son for Christmas and with in a few minutes had it sites in and plinking a squirrel target. My sons first pellet gun and he started with a small BB gun. He was hitting the targets spot on. The gun is a little loud but the accuracy and looks of the gun make it very worth it. We are very impressed.
I really enjoyed watching you siding in the old gun and then hunting with it. It seems today you have to have all the modern tech To shoot paper. I found a scope helped me because my eyesight’s not what it was better than that the old cap and ball and guns like that Winchester are awesome. And I really like where you get to Hunt at. I live in the Texas Panhandle and trees are hard to come bye have a great year keep Up the good work
Oooof this will be a treat, haven't watched yet! I have one that is modified for moose hunting and necked up to 9,3x53R Finnish...
These were really used in the Finnish civil war.
Damn that's my dream rifle, it's hard to come by though.
A fantastic hunt, and a fantastic piece of firearms history! I have always loved the 1895. I would love to get one, sadly they are so difficult to find here.
A REALLY good reason to choose the S&B ammo (nice quality ammo anyway); "it was available at the shop of the shooting range" (!!) Thoroughly excellent presentation, as usual C&B!
C&B, I always keep coming back. I truly love your videos. You're a very respectable and honorable man. Thank you very much.
Nice old rifle. I’m in the US (North Ga) in the foot hills of the Appalachian Mountains. That area you’re in in Hungary looks very much like where I live. We have a wild hog problem here also but more so in the southern part of out state. Good video!
Always look forward to your videos. I find most of the military rifles I have had all shot high for the same reason. Most of the time it is an easy fix as yours was. Very good group at 100 meters for the bore condition. I like how you always show respect for the animals you take. Wish others would do the same............
Wonderful video! I love your hunting videos even more than your gun videos. I recently bought a Miroku-Winchester 95 in .30-06. Fantastic gun! Can't wait for an opportunity to go hunting with it. I love classic rifles.... 😊
And your sight fix was spot on. Congrats on the deer.
Great video! Truly beautiful landscape and a good hunt!
Greetings from Texas! Outstanding video. Your approach to these firearms is wonderful to watch. Great job!
Very awesome to see such a rare piece
you know the Savage 1895 later the improved 1899 was a lever action that used pointed bullets also it had a Rotory magazine only thing that held it back was the lack of short action cartridges at the time thanks for the content not may people know of the lever actions that used spitzers
My grandfather had five rules for rifle hunting.
No shot over 100 yards.
No scopes.
No goofy equipment like camo, scent covers, etc.
One shot one kill.
Dead before they hit the ground.
I have heard it said that the Russian Soldiers loved them and I've heard the exact opposite. It's good to see nothing ever changes.
Probably they hate it, because the gun itself ended with the second liner. This is a good civilian rifle but terrible in combat the same reason why military never adopt lever gun.
I think it’d depend upon how familiar they are with it. Some illiterate conscript would probably hate it due to how difficult it is to maintain compared to a mosin
Russia was so starved for guns they contracted anything they could get in numbers. Many guns like this did go to 2nd tier units, or lower intensity areas, because it allowed the Mosin to be allocated to front line troops in main theater.
Beautiful videography and amazing that you were able to find a shooting bench that's as old as the rifle!!!
;-)
Great video!
Really enjoyed it.
Really liked your use of the Lee Loader.
Great tool.
They're not common in the US but they were made in the largest numbers.
Lee Loaders may be simple but they work well.
Your ph0tography of nature approaches a documentary, it is quite beautiful and well done.
Reloading with lee hand tools. I have reloaded 1000;s of rounds this way. 30/30's 30/06 and tons of shotgun shells. Takes me back to my youth. When hunting and fishing was my hole world.
Teddy Roosevelt's favorite rifle.
I’m jealous. That’s my dream rifle!
I am looking for one of these in .30-40 Krag to complement my US Model 1898 rifle. It's a delight to see this one put to good use in your hands.
in spring tx they have one for sale at a pawnshop for 400 dollars
I reload my 45-70 for my marlin 1895SBL like that. Always love the videos from all the way over in Oklahoma. Keep it up!
Beautiful woods! Great shooting and very nice rifle!
Always a pleasure to see you hunting with respect and with old guns. Hope one day you will use a Gras :)
Would you consider doing a video on the process of legally owning firearms and shooting in Hungary? There are similar videos from big channels about Czech, French, Russian gun laws etc, but few about Hungary's
Decent group considering the condition of the bore. This is one of my bucket list rifles
Beautiful rifle and a beautiful hunt.
I still want one of these.
Maybe it would be easier to get a modern 1895 and pay for a conversion.
If you can contact Miroku they probably can make you one.
Maybe they'll make a run someday...They're making just about every variation. Miroku even made 1895 US saddle ring carbines. Wouldn't be surprised if Japanese laws prevent export of "Military" arms with charger clip guides or bayonet lugs though...
Maybe my favourite Winchester after the 1886. I had one sporter in .30-03 and one musket in .30US (.30-40 Krag). The .30-03 liked a slower and heavier round nose bullet for any reasonable accuracy. I loaded the bullets a little further out of the case to compensate for the shorter .30-06 cases that I was using. The musket was just average and I didn't use it much beyond just trying it out.
Nice! The old girl looks a little rough, but she still shoots well. I have an old Spanish kar98 pattern Mauser like that. Looks like junk, but puts them all in one hole at 50m.
I was interested to see the Lee dies too. I've seen them, but I don't think I ever saw the complete reloading with them. Plenty good enough for a hunter.
Always enjoy these hunt videos
If you want an even more indepth look at this rifle, check out the C&Rsenal episode on it.
Congratulations on the buck! Very cool rifle!
This is awesome, I've only ever heard of these, never actually seen one. Hopefully next you'll be able to find a Remington Rolling Block in 7.62x54r.
Dick Tickles a what?
@@charelpeffer52 Remington Rolling block in 6.62x54R is a mythical gun. Some say it's exist some say it's not. But combination of rolling block and rimmed cartridge means it have super powerful action and never ending supply of ammo.
Very nice video! Awesome hunt as well.
It is a damn shame there aren't any replicas of these being made (As far as I know). Such an underrated piece.
www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-1895/model-1895-current-products.html
@@DAKOTA56777 Not in this cartridge...
@@MrCarGuy No, not in the Russian configuration, however the original post doesn't say specifically in the Russian round.
@@DAKOTA56777 Well, it's kind of implied. Perhaps the most attractive part of this rifle is the cartridge.
@@MrCarGuy I don't see that implication, I see that as your opinion and that's fine. If that's what OP means as well, OP can tell me that, until then I will just assume he means the rifle itself.
The rifle is offered in .30-06 which is a round of similar ballistic performance, just a tad higher velocity/muzzle energy.
The biggest difference with the rifle itself is the lack of stripper clip usability since it's not in a military configuration.
Sweet rifle, this is the only antique rifle I would ever want.
One would have thought that a very large target would be advantageous when trying to determine the point
of impact with one of these old rifles.
I’ve got an 1897 production ‘95 in .30-40 Krag. Got a bunch of mud dumped on it in Arizona. It’s rare to find one of these that has any finish left. They were hunted with constantly for 100 years and are still in the woods. I don’t think that will be said of a new plastic stock rifle.
Egy kis reszelés és máris belemenne a Durganov tár! Azon még töprengek, hogy most hová raknám a lazert...
:D szíp lenne!
Excellent video. Very well done.
Oh awesome! Morning everyone. Excited to watch this after work
I collect 1895 Winchesters. There is a lot of surface rust on the metal that can easily be removed with a wire brush, 0000-steel wool, and solvent.
And ruin that beautiful patina, don't you dare!