Thanks for this video! I have a ton of ClayBuster 1075-20 wads for loading tapered hulls but I haven't been able to scavenge anything but straight-walled hulls from my local gun club for some time now. I applied this modification and now have a tight seal for the dozens of RC, Federal and Fiocchi hulls that I've collected in the past. Yes, it's an extra step but with the current scarcity of components this is a great workaround.
That is really handy to know man. Thank you.The wallmart in Oregon dont sell ammo anymore. Nearest place I get it is sportsmens warehouse and its $10 a box! For target ammo!
Hey guys, Claybuster makes a “Federal/Import 12 Gauge Wad”. It’s basically a neon green clone of the Winchester gray(silver) 7/8oz wad but with a wider over powder cup. Works great on Federal, Cheddite, Fiocchi etc. hulls. It solves that pesky powder migration problem When using Winchester wads in straight wall hulls. They do however have splines in the petals which makes them unsuitable for the lee 7/8 or 1 ounce slugs.
We’ve got the pink 1 1/8 ounce wads for the import hulls as well as several other wads that fit them. I was just demonstrating what could be done if you didn’t have proper wads. You can also just add a thin nitro card under the wad too.
Thanks. If you want some 16 gauge heavy magnum loads check out my channel. Up to 1 3/8 ounces. I’ve got a 1 7/8 ounce load for it too but not sure if I’ll do a video on it. I got it from Hal Abbott, he’s the TSS shot guy.
Thanks for the video. I'm new to shotshell reloading and the load recipe I was using for Cheddite hulls and WAA12SL hulls never mentioned the two weren't made for each other and I was getting bad powder migration. I'm going to use this trick until my new wads come in.
Great job I'm new to reloading can you advise me on the Winchester super target hulls are they tapered or straight the hulls looks straight but it appears to have a tapered base plastic I have learned a lot but the wads and hulls or what to use together do you have a video explaining this if not it sure would help the new guys thanks for sharing your work
So can I use the WAA28 in the WinchesterAA HS hulls by flaring it out. And if so how much longshot powder for 3/4oz shot. New to reloading and this is all new to me. Only data I can find for Winchester AA HS is for WAA28HS wad. Love your channel.
I loaded 2 3/4 clear hulls with tungsten running 1481 FPS for goose. With twice the amount of bb’s then steal. Those hulls can be EXTREMELY Affective if not more then any 3” or 3 1/2” in 12ga or 10ga depending on what shots being used. If your going cheep and using BB for a BB gun then you need the extra room that a 3” or 3 1/2 is needed.
Well do it right and buy teflon wraps to save your barrel and chokes if you run any. My Application is either turkey or goose. I had eight shells destroyed a high dollar Indian Creek choke on my H&R SB3 10 gauge a few years ago. With the borescope you could see were chips where missing from the choke! None of the manufactures I’ve test have used anything more then a wad with federals being the best. With TSS you want to uses the teflon wrap inside your wad in hopes it will provide a bit more protection for your choke tube and barrel!
Good to know and thanks for the reply. I guess it stands to reason that since they are under some compression over top of the powder that there’s really no room for them to move either.
Yeah but you’ll lose some capacity. Using a 1” by 1” piece of paper towel will work just fine too, just set the wad over the paper towel then insert it into the hull.
Hi bud, Sweden here, LOVE ! your videos. I have a problem finding the right" Winchester WSF" powder load för to handload with "Hornady" Buckshot .330. 00 Buckshot. I bought the "5th Edition - Lyman Shotshell Realoding Handbook" thinking that it would solve all my problems. It did not. Om pages 355 and 356 i can see the proper powder löad for 2 an three quarter shells BUT nothing ! att all about the correct powder charge for to reload the 3 inch shells
Winchester WSF isn’t a 3” powder, it’s for 2 3/4” 1.25 ounce loads or 35.4 grams. If you want to use it for 3” 10 pellet loads, use 26 grains of WSF powder, an x12x gas seal or two 1/8” nitro cards, the claybuster cb1138-12 wad, and 10 pellets stacked by 2’s. Over shot card and fold crimp or roll.
@@theshotgunscientists - Thank you for you fast answer bud. I feel kinda stupid but i must ask anyway. When you say "Its for 2 3/4 1.25 ounce or 35.4 grams" The word "Load" do you mean Buckshot load or powder load ? - - I read somewhere ( and wrote it down ) that one should/could use 9 hornady .330 buckshot for 2 3/4 loads and 15 pellets Hornady .330 for 3 inch hulls/shells. Is this wrong ? - I desperatley need th correct powder load for theese 2 types of shells i want to load ( I have already bought all the components. In a nutshell - "Winchester WSF" Powder load for 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells that will be loaded with " 00 Buckshot". Thank you for your patience.
@@Hoosmoose WSF is for 1.25 ounce 12 gauge shells. You can also do 1 ounce or 1 1/8 ounce with it. It can be birdshot or buckshot, or even a slug as long as the lead weight is right for the powder charge. 15 pellets of 00 buck .33 caliber is 1 7/8 ounces which is way too much for WSF. You need longshot powder or blue dot. 9 pellets of 00 buck .33 cal is 1 1/8 ounces, WSF will work for that load.
@@theshotgunscientists Shit i have bought 1½ kg of it over the internet. It said in the add that it was good for 12 guage :( I found something called Hodgons Longshot. Is that the right powder ? - I also just found "IMR Krut 731Blue" is that right to ? - Sorry to push buddy but which one of these 2 would you choose for 2 3/4 3 inch and 3 inch buckshot ? - I did not find a "Blue dot" !
@@Hoosmoose WSF is a 12 gauge powder, but it’s only good up to 1 1/4 ounces. It’s not a magnum powder. Longshot will do everything from 7/8 ounces all the way up to 2.25 ounces in 12 gauge. Hodgdon longshot is what you need. Imr blue is discontinued.
Thanks for this video! I have a ton of ClayBuster 1075-20 wads for loading tapered hulls but I haven't been able to scavenge anything but straight-walled hulls from my local gun club for some time now. I applied this modification and now have a tight seal for the dozens of RC, Federal and Fiocchi hulls that I've collected in the past. Yes, it's an extra step but with the current scarcity of components this is a great workaround.
Adding a very thin piece of nitro card over the powder will also work, as will a thin layer of paper towel!
That is really handy to know man. Thank you.The wallmart in Oregon dont sell ammo anymore. Nearest place I get it is sportsmens warehouse and its $10 a box! For target ammo!
Hey guys, Claybuster makes a “Federal/Import 12 Gauge Wad”.
It’s basically a neon green clone of the Winchester gray(silver) 7/8oz wad but with a wider over powder cup.
Works great on Federal, Cheddite, Fiocchi etc. hulls.
It solves that pesky powder migration problem When using Winchester wads in straight wall hulls.
They do however have splines in the petals which makes them unsuitable for the lee 7/8 or 1 ounce slugs.
We’ve got the pink 1 1/8 ounce wads for the import hulls as well as several other wads that fit them. I was just demonstrating what could be done if you didn’t have proper wads. You can also just add a thin nitro card under the wad too.
Great info... This'll help me load my 16's gauge Cheddites and Rios...
Thanks. If you want some 16 gauge heavy magnum loads check out my channel. Up to 1 3/8 ounces. I’ve got a 1 7/8 ounce load for it too but not sure if I’ll do a video on it. I got it from Hal Abbott, he’s the TSS shot guy.
@@theshotgunscientists we've spoken before about 16 gauge loads. This is Keith
Good video, nice tip thanks Tyler
Thanks for the video. I'm new to shotshell reloading and the load recipe I was using for Cheddite hulls and WAA12SL hulls never mentioned the two weren't made for each other and I was getting bad powder migration. I'm going to use this trick until my new wads come in.
Glad I could help
I have seen that happen in new Remington factory shells like buckshot. You could see the powder come up from the wad
A large 1.25" dia steel ball bearing works awesome. Just squisg it against the back end gas seal and it flares it out perfectly
Heating it up with a torch for a couple seconds will still allow you to handle it but will help the plastic move more easily
Great job I'm new to reloading can you advise me on the Winchester super target hulls are they tapered or straight the hulls looks straight but it appears to have a tapered base plastic I have learned a lot but the wads and hulls or what to use together do you have a video explaining this if not it sure would help the new guys thanks for sharing your work
Those are tapered hulls I may do a video
So can I use the WAA28 in the WinchesterAA HS hulls by flaring it out. And if so how much longshot powder for 3/4oz shot. New to reloading and this is all new to me. Only data I can find for Winchester AA HS is for WAA28HS wad. Love your channel.
Yes you can do that. Use data for the red wad but just flare out the ones you have.
@@theshotgunscientists Thank you... You n your vids have been a huge help to me.
I loaded 2 3/4 clear hulls with tungsten running 1481 FPS for goose. With twice the amount of bb’s then steal. Those hulls can be EXTREMELY Affective if not more then any 3” or 3 1/2” in 12ga or 10ga depending on what shots being used. If your going cheep and using BB for a BB gun then you need the extra room that a 3” or 3 1/2 is needed.
Yeah tss is awesome stuff. I’ve been thinking of ways to load up my 32 gauge with some.
Well do it right and buy teflon wraps to save your barrel and chokes if you run any. My Application is either turkey or goose. I had eight shells destroyed a high dollar Indian Creek choke on my H&R SB3 10 gauge a few years ago. With the borescope you could see were chips where missing from the choke! None of the manufactures I’ve test have used anything more then a wad with federals being the best. With TSS you want to uses the teflon wrap inside your wad in hopes it will provide a bit more protection for your choke tube and barrel!
If you have room,could you use a thin nitro over the powder?
Yes
Do you think that the plastic wad has a memory and will loose that flare over time?
They don’t. This video is very old now and we’re still doing it like this.
Good to know and thanks for the reply. I guess it stands to reason that since they are under some compression over top of the powder that there’s really no room for them to move either.
What kind of wad was the 1-1/8 oz wad yellow wad thanks
Claybuster cb0118-12
@@theshotgunscientiststhanks man great channel to refer back to 👍👍
How do you tell the difference between the straight hull wad and the tapered hull wad?
The website usually tells you, but if you insert the wad in the hull shot 1/4 way in, the bottom of the wad will be extremely loose if it’s tapered.
@@theshotgunscientists Thank you
I add an overshot card made from milk jug and that stops powder migration and let me run chalanger and sts or gun club hulls interchangeably.
A paper towel 1” square will also work.
very good
Thanks
Would an over powder card work too?
Yeah but you’ll lose some capacity. Using a 1” by 1” piece of paper towel will work just fine too, just set the wad over the paper towel then insert it into the hull.
Hi bud, Sweden here, LOVE ! your videos. I have a problem finding the right" Winchester WSF" powder load för to handload with "Hornady" Buckshot .330. 00 Buckshot. I bought the "5th Edition - Lyman Shotshell Realoding Handbook" thinking that it would solve all my problems. It did not. Om pages 355 and 356 i can see the proper powder löad for 2 an three quarter shells BUT nothing ! att all about the correct powder charge for to reload the 3 inch shells
Winchester WSF isn’t a 3” powder, it’s for 2 3/4” 1.25 ounce loads or 35.4 grams. If you want to use it for 3” 10 pellet loads, use 26 grains of WSF powder, an x12x gas seal or two 1/8” nitro cards, the claybuster cb1138-12 wad, and 10 pellets stacked by 2’s. Over shot card and fold crimp or roll.
@@theshotgunscientists - Thank you for you fast answer bud. I feel kinda stupid but i must ask anyway. When you say "Its for 2 3/4 1.25 ounce or 35.4 grams" The word "Load" do you mean Buckshot load or powder load ? - - I read somewhere ( and wrote it down ) that one should/could use 9 hornady .330 buckshot for 2 3/4 loads and 15 pellets Hornady .330 for 3 inch hulls/shells. Is this wrong ? - I desperatley need th correct powder load for theese 2 types of shells i want to load ( I have already bought all the components.
In a nutshell - "Winchester WSF" Powder load for 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells that will be loaded with " 00 Buckshot". Thank you for your patience.
@@Hoosmoose WSF is for 1.25 ounce 12 gauge shells. You can also do 1 ounce or 1 1/8 ounce with it. It can be birdshot or buckshot, or even a slug as long as the lead weight is right for the powder charge. 15 pellets of 00 buck .33 caliber is 1 7/8 ounces which is way too much for WSF. You need longshot powder or blue dot. 9 pellets of 00 buck .33 cal is 1 1/8 ounces, WSF will work for that load.
@@theshotgunscientists Shit i have bought 1½ kg of it over the internet. It said in the add that it was good for 12 guage :(
I found something called Hodgons Longshot. Is that the right powder ? - I also just found "IMR Krut 731Blue" is that right to ? - Sorry to push buddy but which one of these 2 would you choose for 2 3/4 3 inch and 3 inch buckshot ? - I did not find a "Blue dot" !
@@Hoosmoose WSF is a 12 gauge powder, but it’s only good up to 1 1/4 ounces. It’s not a magnum powder. Longshot will do everything from 7/8 ounces all the way up to 2.25 ounces in 12 gauge. Hodgdon longshot is what you need. Imr blue is discontinued.
How about just using an X 10 X gas seal and then a taped wad without modification… in a 10 gauge hull of course.
Yep you can do that.
I found an easier way is to just rotate the base of the wad against the top of the powder bottle with some pressure. It evenly flares it in 2 seconds.
@@OGbqze nice
Another idea is flaring out the gas seal by pushing it against a golfball or ping pong ball or the like
That’ll work
Why not just put a card under it
You loose a lot of capacity doing that. Makes the wad sit quite a bit higher.