@@Fr33Goat yeah the blue ones were no where near as good as the green ones. I remember me and my dad had a blue miter saw that we only used for framing and rough work and an 18-Volt drill that would barely hold a charge lol!
When i was about 10 or 11 my grandfather bought me a full set of ryobi power tools and let me build to my hearts content. Blue ryobis still make me nostalgic.
It's funny, in Australia DeWalt are considered overpriced junk. A lot of people run Milwaukee and Hitako (Hitachi) and Hilti. Stanley used to be quality and Black and Decker were always junk. AEG are in Australia as well. Surprised to see they are the same as Rigid as AEG are said to be junk and Ridgid are the goods! Ryobi were always junk, but these days seem to be a lot better. Trying to dig out of of the cheap and nasty label I guess. Great video mate
Most comprehensive explanation of tool industry I've seen! Thank you for sharing your research. I really appreciate learning what the various companies' target market is... I thought Metabo was a new comer and Hitachi was a higher end tool lineup. I'm sure we all learned quite a bit from this video.
My friends works at TTI Corporation's Ryobi Headquarters here in Anderson, SC. It is 600,000 sqft of offices, manufacturing, testing, and more plus 1,200,000 sqft of distribution. They are going to build a chain hotel near site as well for conferences and people who come from all over the country (a lot from Home Depot stores) for training.
They actually used local contractors to beta-test their construction tools. I worked for one guy who had a bunch of those. Some of their ideas weren't so hot but some of the tools were quite good. The nicest part was that they were free :) Been over ten years ago so I guess they're still doing it, but I moved away so I'm not involved anymore.
This video says to me that the power tool market is getting extremely competitive and we are going to see all the value we can squeezed out of these companies for the dollar we pay. It’s getting pretty exciting for us tool guys!
I like the makita brand, but recently started decided to move into Milwaukee instead. I like their commitment to the brand and, in addition to a great tool line, once you’re on the 18v platform you can convert all your outdoor power equipment to the platform.
The one thing that made me go for Makita over the other brands was honestly the ergonomics. It's something that so few companies seem to care about, but a Makita nearly always feels better in the hand than a Dewalt or Milwaukee. Maybe because they're a Japanese company (I have slightly smaller hands) I don't know, but I always feel much more comfortable holding onto a Makita drill or saw.
Ryobi is big here in Australia as the commonest value brand. Makita is really well regarded and I use their 18volt tools. Both Milwaukee and DeWalt are very available here in big hardware stores and speciality tool shops. As an older retiree, I really like the small 12v Bosch tools for low weight and ability to work in confined spaces. I have a rattle gun that I bought from AliExpress that takes my genuine Makita 18v batteries for US$30. Time will tell if it holds up. Nice overview Mr Bear.
Very nicely done Jeff !!! You are very good at explaining the details. Thanks again for your time and effort in helping out the whole Den !!! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos Rodney
Lads at work bought rip off Dewalt batteries. Actually their not branded Dewalt, so their not fake really. They look cheap with label on. But without substandard label their ok. He says their good. But I used his 18v circular saw to cut 40mm worktop. Circ saw started stuttering, we thought saw was to blame but 2 weeks later realised the battery didn't marry correctly with saw. When connected with drill driver it works fine. Must be summit to do when a high load is demanded, it can't cope.
I have One cordless tool, and it’s a brushless Bosch Freak II. It’s the best tool ever. The 1/2” Socket and 1/4” Hex is so genius, it overshadows any shortcomings in specs. I use it for everything.
Jeff, kindly tell the Bear, that ALL of Grizzly stuff, even the large (table saws, drill presses, and such) are made by large factories overseas. Jet, Powermatic, and Oliver planers are made in the same factory that makes Grizzly planers. (I work in a store that sells J, P and O planers. My brother's Grizzly is IDENTICAL to the others.) I'm a mechanic there, and repair all of them. steve
Hitachi Power Tools were sold to a holding company about 18 months ago, hence the rebranding. Hitachi already owned the Metabo which is now becoming the new US brand for their tools. They have also created the Hikoki brand, but my understanding is that it will be only used outside of the US. The holding company will likely rebrand the tools, spend heavily on marketing and sell the business in few years.
I am just a DIYer but after struggling with crappy Black and Pecker and trash Ryobi, I finally decided to switch to Milwaukee and Makita. Never looked back. When they say "DIY tool" they don't mean doing pro level projects yourself, they mean hanging shelves, fixing a fence and assembling furniture,
The Klien impacts and other electrical tools are made by Dewalt just like the Mac version. I have all the models of impacts Dewalt,Mac, and Klein and they are the same tool that takes the same Dewalt batteries.
Metabo gives me such a headache when I try to figure out their product line : their orbital sanders are 100% Mirka tools, their planers are Makita, some others are Hitachi... x_X
I'm a commercial electrician and have used a porter Cable impact, drill, and sawzall for years because I already had them when I first started they've never failed me and I have never seen a Milwaukee, DeWalt ect. Equivalent tool out preform mine.
I was a Milwaukee 18v guy until they changed their battery style. Was so pissed that I had to start all over when the tools I had were still good, so now I'm a Ryobi guy and am impressed so far. I won't say they as a good as Milwaukee but I think even as a contractor you'd be good to go with Ryobi. Regular batteries if your a diy guy, high out batteries if your a contractor. I have a couple M12 tools because they are handy for certain situations and I can buy knock off batteries on Amazon. Thanks for the information!
I can see why you would feel that way and it does suck. But they had to change the m18 line to increase the battery power output. It sucks it broke compatibility, but seeing where the product line is now, it was worth it.
@@GregoryVeizades if Ryobi can do it, why couldn't Milwaukee? Ryobi could get the same power as Milwaukee in their line up but would have to up their price but they aren't aiming for the contractor user as much as the diy guy.
Hey bear, I have an idea for a show.....How about you do a video on products that are made to work on various manufacturers batteries? I was watching that AVE channel and he did a video on a makita knockoff impact wrench. I bought one and it is pretty good for the price. I also just bought a knock off usb adapter for makita batteries. Maybe include the battery adapters to make their batteries fit other brands of tools.
Bauer user here... and plumber/drain tech. I cut through concrete, cast iron, clay and pvc piping all with the Bauer 15 Amp grinder. With the right blade on it the thing is a monster
Nice video enlightening those who weren't aware of who makes what for whom. I was surprised to find this on my own back in 2009-2010 when an opportunity came up to acquire Home Depot air compressor & nail guns, etc returns from a local liquidation house buying semi-trucks full of customer returns on pallets. All the names they carried were there for the bidding in various conditions of use & repair needed, was a crash course on who supplies what repair/replacement parts! Learned how to fix compressors better then they left the assembly line, no leaks! Was good for 4-5 yrs before buying Home Depot returns became big business & too expensive for the small liquidation house near me, was good while it lasted! Good learning experience & I made some $ and good people got great deals on refurbished compressors & pneumatic nailers locally. Keep the informative & entertaining videos coming, much appreciated!
I think Stanley Black & Decker bought the Craftsman line to replace the Porter Cable line they ruined and that will probably happen to Craftsman after awhile.
They may ruin Craftsman (they already have), but they paid way too much to kill it off. They'll just leverage its past reputation while downgrading the quality.
I STILL buy Craftsman old style ratchets and sockets. I grew up with them, and they still work well. Have them at home, and work. I have plenty to last the rest of my life. Craftsman power tools, uh, NO! Weren't good, back then. steve
@@steveskouson9620 Could not agree more. I still use the ratchets, wrenches, and screwdrivers I bought 40 years ago. The new stuff just is not the same though.
I run 3 Napa stores. I sell in the same stores drills branded Dewalt, Porter Cable, and Craftsman 20v. You can set them side by side and if they weren't different colors you would never know the difference. Also missed here is Apex tool group. Which makes the Gearwrench brand tools. They also make the majority of Craftsman hand tools. With the one special exception...the Craftsman gear wrench. They had a falling out back in the early days between Craftsman, Gearwrench, and Sears. Long story short, Craftsman ended up getting a different company specifically for their gear wrenches. Apex also has a ton of tool brands under it. Jacob's Chuck, Crescent, Wiss, Armstrong, Gearwrench...etc.
The battery interchangeability problem is a thing of the past. There are adapters readily available on Amazon. You can use a DeWalt battery on a Ryobi. A black and Decker on a Makita. I don't think there is a variant not included in this lineup.
We been on Makita for years at work, but they switched to Hilti and I can safely say you can notice the small differences specially in the ergonomics, they just fit the hand nicer and better overall. That said with Hilti not being keen on selling to consumer or small business, it is hardly worth pursuing it when the Makita or your choice will do the job 95% as well. Festool to me always been the same thing from the little use I had with them and talking to the people who really need their tools: Their boxes are amazing, no one makes a better system, the tools are alright, but way to damn expensive and well yeah I seen plenty of a Makita, Hilti and metabo being pulled from Festool boxes.
Makita is my go to, I have an older brushed impact wrench. I use that thing for work as a tow truck operator. I use it to bang tires off that are stuck. Edit: forgot to mention that I barely have to break out the breaker bar or my 3 lbs crosspeen to take the tires off. I had a mail truck yesterday that I had too use the crosspeen for, but 9/10 times the only thing to come or are the impact wrench and the harbor freight impact sockets
Right as rain on Mac Tools. I purchased a Mac Tools 12v. electric cordless 3/8 ratchet and I can charge the batteries with my DeWalt 12-20v. charger. Also can operate the DeWalt radio with the Mac Tool battery.
LordTorminator: I first used a half inch Makita corded drill in early 1990's, I was used to working with high torque air drills, but this thing nearly broke my wrist. Have purchased Makita tools since then.
24:06 Makita-- I just bought the 36v right angle drill and I couldnt be happier! I work as a new commercial building plumber and have been using the corded holehog. Not the old school break your arm holehog I remember as a young plumber but that long one. No more lugging around a cord! As far as a fantasy makita product I would love to see would be a microwave. Getting a hot plate at the jobsite is hard to come by and a portable microwave would be the bees knees although making pizza would be rad as well! Great video :)
My dad used to have a makita tool, then somehow got rid of it, I have a makita JR3000V from around 1982-ish that I got free from the dumpster. New cord, new carbon brushes and new blades and it works great!
I'm a retired Plumber/Heating/Electrician/Remodeling and Building Contractor. I didn't know what to do with myself so I started to do small handyman jobs. I've bought some 20V Craftsman saws and drills from Lowes. They work great. I still like my big boy corded tools better though.
That Bauer line seems like the sweet spot for the avg homeowner and occasional project-in-the-garage type individual. The quality seems on par with Craftsman or Ryobi, but the price point is significantly better. Lots of options and you don’t have to stroll into a Lowe’s/HomeDepot to make a purchase. Lots of value there!
I started buying all Dewalt brand power tools because my dad always did. Always seemed too expensive but since I already had some I kept with them. Im glad I did since it is mostly an American company.
@@AlexFlockhart Strange, I've never had a problem with any of them. I do use the impacts for 90% of the screw running though, usually save the drills for drilling.
My Makita drill driver is still going strong after a decade plus of abuse. Looking at getting the impact wrench so I can stick with the same batteries.
I had a makita 4" grinder for 35 years before it bit the dust and I used it at least 1 x a week. First cordless drill I owned was makita used it for 20 years ,I just didn't want to buy any more batteries for it. I loved their 8" circular saw.
G'day, I saw a "Snap On" 5" cordless grinder a couple of years ago. You could tell it came from the same factory that made my Metabo 5" cordless grinder. I'm sure lots of the components were interchangeable. Tells me the Metabo unit must be good if "Snap on" want them.
I have use and tried many cord less tools , Makita is by far the best quality , reliability , portable and many companion Accessories great for easy work 👍
I still use my 25 year old Mikita worm drive circular saw. I’ve been through a lot of tools and this is the only one that I still use on a daily basis. I even used it to cut stone with a diamond blade and this thing is a beast. I’ve been using Milwaukee lately but I switching to makita’s cordless tools. I find that Milwaukee’s quality is not as good.
I ran 18v and 20 porter cable cordless tools since 2011 I never ran into a single issue with them, dropped the impact off the side of the truck god knows how many times still kicking strong, they cost me almost nothing to get into the tool line as a young guy and have paid for themselves hundreds of times over, the 18v tools I had are still kick'n it with one of my younger cousins. i've honestly had very few times on a job where I thought to myself "man I cant do the job with these tools. and remember if someone tells you you're not a real (insert trade) unless you run (insert tool line) they're not a real (insert trade).
Black And White Country I have a 3/8 cordless 18v that I liked using. Good balance, easy torque settings, but both battery packs died. Something in the battery protection circuit stopped the charger from charging. I even tried charging on my RMC models charger, but that didn't work either. Bought a Ryobl kit on sale, and those batteries have far outlasted the Porter Cable ones.
I feel there are just too many players fighting for a small piece of the action. All of them are out to get you sold on their line... and then in 10 years you find that there is no battery support, and no adapters. We are forced to either DIY or pay a battery chain to re-cell the packs for perfectly good tools that have become useless as the companies moved on. Another problem is tools with one weak link that wears out and is not serviceable. I grew up with power tools that you could re-brush, and re bearing. Now some garbage part in a gear train turns to dust and the whole tool becomes trash.
Ha! See and that is why you will hear me sigh when these young [very special people] pipe up with "Brushless or it's junk". I can fix a brushed tool while on the jobsite half the time. When a brushless tools dies, 9 time out of 10 it's just dead. As to the batteries you gave me a grate idea for a video. When the industry switched to lithium ion there was a huge change in form factor and output. There were forced to change the tools and abandon the old battery systems in most cases. But the next step will be 21700 cells which are bigger but can be acommidated for and then after that is solid state (salt) batteries and they are very flexible when it comes to form factor. So hopefully it will be a while before we are foced to change everything again.
That's probably why I tend to be rough with my cordless tools on the assumption that the tool will not last for a very long time. I figure that either the tool itself (with their plastic parts or thin metal) will die out or the battery platform will be abandoned and die out. My dad, on the other hand, still has corded tools from the 80s/90s and still uses them; although, nowadays, mostly for stuff around his house.
That’s why when you look to buy cordless tools you should find a company that has been around for some time and has a fairly good selection of tools in that battery line. Kinda like the saying you get what you paid for, if you buy cheap then you shouldn’t be surprised when in ten years, if it makes it that long, you have to throw it away and look for a new line.
Bosch did that about 15 to 20 years ago, always had been a good brand people bought the cordless Bosch brand expecting a high quality and well backed product. All of a sudden the battery packs start failing and then you can no longer find the batteries.
I’ve been using craftsman tools, the cordless ones, for twenty five or thirty years now. It was shortly after they came out with the C 3 battery line. So I’ll probably never get rid of them but have to wonder in ten years if Stanley Black & Decker will offer the batteries for the older Sears Tools. If not then all my old cordless craftsman tools will be worthless once the batteries die, but that’s probably not a problem I will have to deal with in my life time. The first batteries I had from when I first started with the C 3 line just recently gave up the ghost and if any I buy in the next ten years along with the new ones I have last as long, I’ll be 83 to 93 years old and probably not care as I will not be doing as much home repairs and hobby woodworking as I do now. Besides I still have my corded tools so if I’m still puttering around the old shop I’ll just plug in and go to it.
Duane Miller, Get ready for the End by going to EBay and looking up manufacturer’s who rebuild Batteries... I have older PC 19.2 v Tools and get my batteries there... I also have older Milwaukee 12 , 18 an 28 volt tools that I can still get batteries for there online... Good Luck with your Craftsman tools... Greg
The batteries inside that plastic "battery" case are basic off the shelf items. If you can solder then you can crack that battery pack open, untack the old cells and add in brand new ones. Lots of ppl will shave off proprietary notches from batteries to make them fit their charger, but very few ppl ever just replace the cells. With a bit a research you can bring a dead fool back to life.
I've ran the DeWalt 18 volt and 20 volt along with a few others but the Milwaukee M18 system has been the best set of power tools. Milwaukee M18 is all I have and some of them I've had for 7 years now and I haven't had to replace one yet.
I'm 37 years old and I remember my dads old Makita drill where the battery slipped into the handle and he still has that thing and it still works. So I'm building up my Makita set. I have Milwaukee, Mac, and Snapon as im a Geavy Equipment Tech
I used to buy B&D cordless drills, but then got frustrated that every time I needed a replacement battery either I couldn't get one or it was cheaper to buy a new drill. Researched Ryobi's battery compatibility before buying and now I am hooked into their 18v system.
Had a black & decker 20v max drill for about 3 years. Used the daylights out of it and just now the transmission went out on it. Saw that Hart had really good reviews and they had a combo pack of the 1/2 drill and impact driver for $94. Its been good so far!
Rigid pissed me off and lost me for two reasons. My first cordless hammer drill was Rigid 18V and the chuck would just start wobbling. I took good care of it and it wobbled. I took it in to the service center and they replaced the chuck for it to happen again. The second instance was buying a used miter saw with some broken and missing pieces although it still worked. Me and the guy I bought it from figured because Rigid has a lifetime warranty, I could go get replacements no issue and he gave me a good price on it. WRONG! They get out of their lifetime warranty by discontinuing things left and right. Then they stop making parts and oops, no longer available, can't get it fixed buy a new one! After they told me the parts were unavailable, I asked if parts off newer ones would work, nope, no substitutes. I took a good look at parts for newer ones and I literally could not tell the difference. I took a chance and bought the parts to see if they would work. They were an exact fit, no issues. They lied to my face and told me those parts would not work and they fit perfect. Never again.
I have gone Bosch. Not many people around me do so that means when they show up second hand, I can usually get them for a good price. I love the fact that they still make their own tools. I am not getting someone else's white box or OEM. I have been frustrated by their lack of 12V options but they have significantly improved. Their pricing has been a bit higher and there are less places to buy them but I noticed this Christmas they had a huge sale, on the scale I have never seen before. I picked up a couple things I had been sitting on because they usually never or very rarely go on sale. I wonder if they are about to make a bigger push into the prosumer market. I have had bad luck with Rigid and Dewalt. I haven't had Milwaukee but I have talked to people who work at a repair center and they told me that's the one they see the most of in my area but in my area, Milwaukee is extremely popular so that just might be a factor of more of them out there. I used to work with tools for a living and got sick and tired of the cheap crap that every one buys with the idea if it breaks just buy a new one. Well, when I am on a lift 20' up in 20 degree weather with snow and wind in my face, I want my tool to work. I can't be running to Harbor Freight once a month getting a tool replaced. Buy it once and buy it for life is now what I do.
And know I'm not hating on Milwaukee I have the 2853 impact driver which with a brand new 6.0 battery still cuts out when driving several 1/2 inch lags that are 6 inch with no pilot hole in pressure treated 4 x 6 and my 2804 drill with 6.0 battery also it works great except for the damn chuck will randomly lock up so tight I have to put in vise to get bit out I'm just happy I still have my perfect old reliable dewalt DCD996 which has been beaten to a bloody pulp and still works flawlessly
My dad has some old black and decker gear from the 70s-80s. Made in the UK, its really good quality stuff, even today. Now its all made in China and terrible.
You will get a laugh on my tool chest. In the late 80’s early 90’s I bought the biggest box Snap-On box. So my Snap On guy gets the box for “show and tell” so I order the box, and then called my wife after I bought it and she was busy and the owner ask if she could take a message ( I’m thinking suuuurrrreeee just let her know I bought the tool box) Lmbo not a minute later I get page over the PA Thom line 1 your wife is on the phone. And you all know how that went over. I was in the dog house 😂😂😂😂. Take Care.
Porter Cable was the premium corded tool, routers and sanders were the number one. Search the locomotive or train belt sander. Built to last. Family company.
I made the switch to Kobalt from porter cable a few months back after some comments back and forth with you. You didn't lead me wrong bear. I have a decent selection of Kobalt now and am happy with them all. I also tried out Bauer and its not been bad either.
Scott Boyd The microwave... no problem! But it would take two men and a boy to carry the battery. 1500 watts max, with 1350 watts nominal. So if you do the math, 1500 watts at 20 volts gives you a current draw of 75 amps. You'd need welding cable to carry that much amperage. Or you could use a 120 volt converter mounted onto a 12 volt battery, but at only 12 volts, the battery has to be able to supply around 125 amps to prevent the converter output sagging to a lower voltage. Btw, microwave ovens do NOT like trying to work at low voltages. Ask me how I know... 😖
When i left his employ my stepdad got me the 400 dollar Kobalt tool kit. That was years ago. I am still using the kit and adding onto it all the time. This kit is as good or better than his Milwaukees, those are his words (And mine. He has Milwaukee... Kobalt has the same warranty as them, too.) I wish Kobalt had the massive array of tools that Milwaukee does but it's an amazing tool set and I have no regrets as a professional.
I work for a company that uses preset torque hand drivers and Ingersoll Rand is pretty much all we use for our preset torque hand drivers. In my personal life going from the information you provided me, I decided to go with the Ridgid brand since I couldn't afford the power tools that has the city I live and grew up in as its namesake. Although, the Home Depot I purchased my tools at is just down the road from the Milwaukee Tools headquarters.
It's funny, the world may be going cordless, however, the CORDED electric impact wrench is the new quiet consumer rage. These new a/c driven models are for consumers that need to remove lug nuts and do car and house repairs. The corded wrenches generally have more torque than a cordless version for the dollar, but not nearly the torque a pneumatic impact wrench would typically have. Even so, the electric corded impacts have respectable torque numbers and are plenty strong for the DIY home mechanic. Plus, there's no batteries to kill from infrequent use. So here's where it clashes with the bear's perspective... Porter Cable (Stanley B&D) makes one of the best selling corded 1/2" impact wrenches called thre PCE211 with 450 ft.lbs of torque for $80 on Amazon. Almost all the legit reviews and youtube videos are positive, with most complaints being the 7.5lbs weight. You'd be wise to be aware that some cordless battery impact wrenches are often measured in inch-lbs, not ft. lbs like the corded versions, so be aware of that. The inch-lbs marketing strategy is probably used because they don't want to show a low ft. lbs torque number on the box, ie. 335ft. lbs of torque at $159.(batteries not included)! Some companies of both electric and cordless impact wrenches also show Breakaway or Nutbusting torque. It's definitely marketing at work here folks. Dispell the mystery of "breakaway torque" video; ua-cam.com/video/P0sgP6xDVmM/v-deo.html Here's a decent electric impact wrench for the money; www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-PCE211-7-5-Impact-Wrench/dp/B07255QCN4/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1A7936CGWRWPT&keywords=1%2F2+impact+wrench&qid=1579059515&sprefix=1%2F2%22%2Caps%2C436&sr=8-6
I have to disagree with your blanket statement regarding how cordless impacts are rated. Some models can be rated in in-lbs., but there are even more that are rated in ft-lbs.
@@ClintsTractor You're right. I should have said "some". I will edit that in. I just wanted to make people be aware to look closely at the type of torque measurement these companies use. Thanks.
When it comes to Ridgid vs Milwaukee for service, the difference is probably that Ridgid themselves handle the Customer Service and TTi just provides the tools. Just my guess though.
Just invested in Makita. I’ve been using Ryobi since the start, Ridgid for 3 years, and I just started on M12, but I wanted to start on my true pro line and decided that Makita was gonna be the best brand I could jump into. I’m excited to see where it goes. Really want the coffee maker
I just can't bring myself to buy Craftsman tools anymore. I liked their hand tools when I was younger, but I found their power tools to be pretty uneven. When B&D started reviving the brand I bought a couple of hand tools and they were worse than Pittsburgh and a lot more expensive, and that turned me off them. Maybe things are better now, but I just avert my eyes when I see Craftsman tools of any kind.
hardlyb fortunately for me I have a fairly complete line in the old handtools from 40 years ago. Haven’t had to look at the newer ones because I just don’t need anything right now. If I do need something it’s just because I can’t find the tools I already have because they’re kind of scattered around and when that happens I usually go to Harbor freight or Walmart and pick up something inexpensive to get the job done.
I have an old Craftsman drill from 1976. Other than a bearing making noise it still works. It binds a little when you first start it but then it works fine. They don't make their stuff like that anymore.
william neuman who does these days. Have an old drill that was my grandfather’s that he got some time in the late 50s to early 60s. It’s close to my age or older and it runs great but I don’t use it because it needs a new cord. Thing is that I like it all original so it’s hard for me to just simply put a new cord on it. It’s big heavy and ugly but I think the thing is going to outlive me.
@prospectorrat@gmail.com I'm hoping some of these companies will realize they need to make stuff elsewhere. I buy American when I can find it, unless the price is totally absurd, and then I try to get tools made in Germany, Japan, Taiwan, S Korea, and Eastern Europe (in no particular order). But too often I'm reduced buying from the virus exporters.
I have and old B&D jig saw with replaceble brushes - (never replaced) I have cut literally thousands of things with it since the early 80s where I bought it used at a garage sale.
I've got an old Craftsman that has an all metal, polished case. It's probably 40 years old and runs smooth and quiet. Replaced a plastic Craftmade that was probably 20 years old and the old solid metal version is way nicer.
I bought a Bauer drill from HF, and I'm pretty impressed. It's not as good as my makitas, but it's great for around the house. I got it on clearance because of open box. I then bought a blower and a huge battery. I finally like a tool from HF
I bought a Bauer orbital sander, it was $23.00, I needed a new hook n loop pad for my Dewalt, the pad was $29.00. They have the same mounting pattern. The Dewalt is just a bit more powerful, but the Bauer feels like a real tool, I was very surprised, so much surprised I went back and bought the Bauer shop vac. Im impressed with both.
I'm starting to like HyperTough. I was at WalMart recently and noticed they had a HyperTough cordless angle grinder which is new to me. They even upgraded the HyperTough cordless drill; it seems beefier and has a 1/2 inch chuck.
Recently got into hyper tough line for some yard tools. Weedwhacker and chainsaw and so far quite happy with them. Found them on clearance last year and figured for the price it was worth trying them out. As for Chicago, it’s a harbor freight tool so it fits in with Bowar and Hercules line.
So, HyperTough is/was made by Stanley-Black&Decker. They were the WalMart house brand. They appear to have lost the WalMart deal to Hart/TTI. If you're into the HyperTough line/batteries and you like them then keep an eye on the whole line going on clearance in the near future. You might find some deals. However, if you're not into their line yet then I would completely avoid it. You may end up with a zombie platform. As far as "Chicago" goes, there are two separate brands. There is the "Chicago Electric" brand at Harbour Freight and then there is the "Chicago Pneumatic" line that is owned by Atlas Copco. They are completely different lines at total opposite ends of the spectrum. This is much like the "Diablo" air hoses at HF that have nothing to do with the Diablo Tools that makes saw blades.
bird718 you might want to think about the Hart brand. It’s Reasonably priced at Walmart otherwise it have to go with hyper tough. How ever I have never seen one. All the hyper tough tools I’ve seen are yard and garden stuff. My experience with those Chicago electric cordless tools isn’t the best. Gave one to a friend but it died after just a few uses.
My B&D corded Hedge Hog Edger has been an incredible tool. Every time I use it, I think surely this thing will die today, but it keeps chugging along. I don’t like dragging out 100 foot of extension cord to edge my yard, but the thing has lasted for over 10 years. I’m on only my second one since buying my present house 25 years ago. And yes, I edge a lot - about every two to three weeks in the summer as I live in Northwest Florida where the cutting season is about 8 months of the year, and I’m on about a third of an acre with about 500 feet, between my sidewalk, driveway and street frontage that needs to be edged. The cost can’t be beat - under 50 bucks for an edger that lasts for years. It does eat some blades. I have to put a new one on each season, but I love the fact that I plug it it up and it runs - no gas, oil, or batteries to charge. I have a B&D Hedge Hog Hedge Trimmer as well. I know B&D tools are known for being cheap, but these tools have served me well.
Wish I would’ve known this info a couple years back, when I need to upgrade from my DIY ryobi stuff. Had I known Makita was independent I would definitely chosen them over Milwaukee. I love my Milwaukee stuff, but I like supporting the “little guy”
There is one company not mentioned on here which is SUMEC they are a Chinese company who build various budget power tools, engines and garden power equipment. We see a few of their items in the UK but they have been known to sell items in the USA.
BOSCH is sold at Menards and Lowe’s. I use the 12v tools at work for my “light duty” jobs and I use Dewalt 20v tools for my “bigger” jobs(I’m skilled trades in automotive). Lowe’s only sells the 18v Bosch instore, Menards sells BOTH 12v and 18v Bosch tools. I gotta say, millwright for 22+ years and using power tools at work, my personal choice is Bosch and Dewalt and the 12v line of Bosch are straight awesome tools! In my experience Bosch makes the best 12v line of tools.
Several years ago I bought my mom an electric can opener, it was black n decker. It didn't work worth crap brand new and then quit working all together in less than a month, black n decker can't even make a decent can opener so I'd never buy any of their tools, my dad said they used to be really good but they sure suck now
Recently got into a Metabo 18/36v impact.... When I walked into Lowes for a need set of black and gold 20v batteries. This was on sale for 159 with two batt and fast charger. Cheaper than batteries for Deeeewalt.
Sad to see Porter Cable this way. I was looking specifically for a 3 hp Porter router to replace my 50 year old Stanley and learned they're not being made anymore. It was such a solid, quality brand.
Porter Cable and Craftsman are the same tools with different color schemes now and you are right they are not very good. The drills are pretty good and the Craftsman brushless line are good tools. However, they have some issues right now with motors going up in smoke in the cordless lines with Porter Cable cordless Oscilating tools, Craftsman cordless Sawzall's and even Dewalts top of the line impact driver the DCF 887 model. I personally invested in a whole slew of the new Craftsman 20Volt line and liked them until I did some real work with them and then the sawzall went up in smoke cutting through nails doing a demo and the Blade left 6 1/2" circular saw was bending at the base plate connection point to the plastic guard causing it to go off track. Took them all back and now I have Bosch and Makita cordless tools plus a couple of Kobalt's. I have the Kobalt 7 1/4" cordless mitre saw and really like it!
I bought a Porter Cable Shop Series drill driver for $14.99. Loved it so much I bought a second one at the same store a month later for $24.99 - Used them both extensively for a year now with no complaints. Good 18v power and decent battery life. At this price how can I complain? Research shows that others like them too. Having said that, I can fine 0 positive reviews of any other PC shop series tools - shop series generally speaking seems not worth owning. But Im happy so far with the drill drivers.
I had no idea this subject would be so interesting. I saw the bear and was like, "Oh gawd wtf?" then... I watched the entire video. Very entertaining and informing.
AEG (Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft ) was originally a German company. The tool section of the company was sold to TTI (Techtronic Industries) in 2009 as you pointed out. Here on Europe they are on everything from washing machines to locomotives. We have Ridgid over here too, but it's mostly their plumbing tools. Great review by the way 😁👍
"Grizzly... no relation..." 🤣
Great info. Didn't expect to sit through the entire thing, yet lo and behold, I did.
I'm under 40 and I remember the blue Ryobi tools, in fact I remember when they switched them over to bright green!
I’m 27 and had a blue set of Ryobis they sucked!
@@Fr33Goat yeah the blue ones were no where near as good as the green ones. I remember me and my dad had a blue miter saw that we only used for framing and rough work and an 18-Volt drill that would barely hold a charge lol!
When i was about 10 or 11 my grandfather bought me a full set of ryobi power tools and let me build to my hearts content. Blue ryobis still make me nostalgic.
It's funny, in Australia DeWalt are considered overpriced junk. A lot of people run Milwaukee and Hitako (Hitachi) and Hilti. Stanley used to be quality and Black and Decker were always junk.
AEG are in Australia as well. Surprised to see they are the same as Rigid as AEG are said to be junk and Ridgid are the goods!
Ryobi were always junk, but these days seem to be a lot better. Trying to dig out of of the cheap and nasty label I guess. Great video mate
Lol. Just cleaned out some dark corners of our garage and threw a few of those things away. I hated them
Most comprehensive explanation of tool industry I've seen! Thank you for sharing your research. I really appreciate learning what the various companies' target market is... I thought Metabo was a new comer and Hitachi was a higher end tool lineup. I'm sure we all learned quite a bit from this video.
My friends works at TTI Corporation's Ryobi Headquarters here in Anderson, SC. It is 600,000 sqft of offices, manufacturing, testing, and more plus 1,200,000 sqft of distribution. They are going to build a chain hotel near site as well for conferences and people who come from all over the country (a lot from Home Depot stores) for training.
They actually used local contractors to beta-test their construction tools. I worked for one guy who had a bunch of those. Some of their ideas weren't so hot but some of the tools were quite good. The nicest part was that they were free :) Been over ten years ago so I guess they're still doing it, but I moved away so I'm not involved anymore.
This video says to me that the power tool market is getting extremely competitive and we are going to see all the value we can squeezed out of these companies for the dollar we pay. It’s getting pretty exciting for us tool guys!
Replacement batteries is where they screw us over and make a grip of money
I like the makita brand, but recently started decided to move into Milwaukee instead. I like their commitment to the brand and, in addition to a great tool line, once you’re on the 18v platform you can convert all your outdoor power equipment to the platform.
I won’t touch Milwaukee, I won’t spend my money on a Chinese brand
The one thing that made me go for Makita over the other brands was honestly the ergonomics. It's something that so few companies seem to care about, but a Makita nearly always feels better in the hand than a Dewalt or Milwaukee. Maybe because they're a Japanese company (I have slightly smaller hands) I don't know, but I always feel much more comfortable holding onto a Makita drill or saw.
Ryobi is big here in Australia as the commonest value brand. Makita is really well regarded and I use their 18volt tools. Both Milwaukee and DeWalt are very available here in big hardware stores and speciality tool shops. As an older retiree, I really like the small 12v Bosch tools for low weight and ability to work in confined spaces. I have a rattle gun that I bought from AliExpress that takes my genuine Makita 18v batteries for US$30. Time will tell if it holds up. Nice overview Mr Bear.
Very nicely done Jeff !!! You are very good at explaining the details. Thanks again for your time and effort in helping out the whole Den !!! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos Rodney
1st vid ever that I COMPLETELY AGREE with you & excellent depth on the Walmart Hart brand & expansion.
From what I've seen of the DIY journalism reviews of Hart tools they seem to be quite solid tools, especially for the price.
you aught to do a video about all the different battery adapters that allow you to use one brands batteries with another brands tools.
Lads at work bought rip off Dewalt batteries. Actually their not branded Dewalt, so their not fake really. They look cheap with label on. But without substandard label their ok.
He says their good.
But I used his 18v circular saw to cut 40mm worktop. Circ saw started stuttering, we thought saw was to blame but 2 weeks later realised the battery didn't marry correctly with saw.
When connected with drill driver it works fine.
Must be summit to do when a high load is demanded, it can't cope.
I have One cordless tool, and it’s a brushless Bosch Freak II. It’s the best tool ever. The 1/2” Socket and 1/4” Hex is so genius, it overshadows any shortcomings in specs. I use it for everything.
I like this friendly bear bloke. Haven't met one before! He's very well informed !!!
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When I look at Kobalt tools. A lot of them look like they were made by TTI , ( the Hackzall and portable vacuum are very similar to Milwaukee)
I never tire of watching this video,thank you for enlightening us.God bless you and your family and be well my Brother.
mac is also proto and Blackhawk hand tools, and yes there out there heavily used in industrial settings
Huh, I work in an industrial auto setting and I have never seen them. We have all Milwaukee or Dewalt. Or unmarked black or yellow tool.
@@OtterTreySSArmy Porto and Blackhawk are well known in industrial settings.
Jeff, kindly tell the Bear, that ALL of Grizzly stuff,
even the large (table saws, drill presses, and such)
are made by large factories overseas. Jet, Powermatic,
and Oliver planers are made in the same factory that
makes Grizzly planers. (I work in a store that sells J, P
and O planers. My brother's Grizzly is IDENTICAL to the
others.) I'm a mechanic there, and repair all of them.
steve
Hitachi Power Tools were sold to a holding company about 18 months ago, hence the rebranding. Hitachi already owned the Metabo which is now becoming the new US brand for their tools. They have also created the Hikoki brand, but my understanding is that it will be only used outside of the US. The holding company will likely rebrand the tools, spend heavily on marketing and sell the business in few years.
I am just a DIYer but after struggling with crappy Black and Pecker and trash Ryobi, I finally decided to switch to Milwaukee and Makita. Never looked back. When they say "DIY tool" they don't mean doing pro level projects yourself, they mean hanging shelves, fixing a fence and assembling furniture,
The Klien impacts and other electrical tools are made by Dewalt just like the Mac version. I have all the models of impacts Dewalt,Mac, and Klein and they are the same tool that takes the same Dewalt batteries.
25:20 a cordless wheelbarrow with headlights. I’m all in.
Fuck yeah
I wondered why my Hitachi drill and 1/4in driver looked a lot/exactly like the Metabo..
Metabo gives me such a headache when I try to figure out their product line : their orbital sanders are 100% Mirka tools, their planers are Makita, some others are Hitachi... x_X
I'm a commercial electrician and have used a porter Cable impact, drill, and sawzall for years because I already had them when I first started they've never failed me and I have never seen a Milwaukee, DeWalt ect. Equivalent tool out preform mine.
I was a Milwaukee 18v guy until they changed their battery style. Was so pissed that I had to start all over when the tools I had were still good, so now I'm a Ryobi guy and am impressed so far. I won't say they as a good as Milwaukee but I think even as a contractor you'd be good to go with Ryobi. Regular batteries if your a diy guy, high out batteries if your a contractor.
I have a couple M12 tools because they are handy for certain situations and I can buy knock off batteries on Amazon.
Thanks for the information!
Hell as long as it gets the job done, who cares what brand you choose.
I can see why you would feel that way and it does suck. But they had to change the m18 line to increase the battery power output. It sucks it broke compatibility, but seeing where the product line is now, it was worth it.
@@GregoryVeizades if Ryobi can do it, why couldn't Milwaukee? Ryobi could get the same power as Milwaukee in their line up but would have to up their price but they aren't aiming for the contractor user as much as the diy guy.
Hey bear, I have an idea for a show.....How about you do a video on products that are made to work on various manufacturers batteries? I was watching that AVE channel and he did a video on a makita knockoff impact wrench. I bought one and it is pretty good for the price. I also just bought a knock off usb adapter for makita batteries. Maybe include the battery adapters to make their batteries fit other brands of tools.
Can you do one of these for air compressors
Bauer user here... and plumber/drain tech. I cut through concrete, cast iron, clay and pvc piping all with the Bauer 15 Amp grinder. With the right blade on it the thing is a monster
Nice video enlightening those who weren't aware of who makes what for whom. I was surprised to find this on my own back in 2009-2010 when an opportunity came up to acquire Home Depot air compressor & nail guns, etc returns from a local liquidation house buying semi-trucks full of customer returns on pallets. All the names they carried were there for the bidding in various conditions of use & repair needed, was a crash course on who supplies what repair/replacement parts! Learned how to fix compressors better then they left the assembly line, no leaks! Was good for 4-5 yrs before buying Home Depot returns became big business & too expensive for the small liquidation house near me, was good while it lasted! Good learning experience & I made some $ and good people got great deals on refurbished compressors & pneumatic nailers locally. Keep the informative & entertaining videos coming, much appreciated!
I think Stanley Black & Decker bought the Craftsman line to replace the Porter Cable line they ruined and that will probably happen to Craftsman after awhile.
Already there
Aint gonna be a long fall for crapsman
They may ruin Craftsman (they already have), but they paid way too much to kill it off. They'll just leverage its past reputation while downgrading the quality.
I STILL buy Craftsman old style ratchets
and sockets. I grew up with them, and
they still work well. Have them at home,
and work. I have plenty to last the rest
of my life. Craftsman power tools, uh,
NO! Weren't good, back then.
steve
@@steveskouson9620 Could not agree more. I still use the ratchets, wrenches, and screwdrivers I bought 40 years ago. The new stuff just is not the same though.
Thank you internet tool furry, I needed a video like this.
I run 3 Napa stores. I sell in the same stores drills branded Dewalt, Porter Cable, and Craftsman 20v. You can set them side by side and if they weren't different colors you would never know the difference.
Also missed here is Apex tool group. Which makes the Gearwrench brand tools. They also make the majority of Craftsman hand tools. With the one special exception...the Craftsman gear wrench. They had a falling out back in the early days between Craftsman, Gearwrench, and Sears. Long story short, Craftsman ended up getting a different company specifically for their gear wrenches.
Apex also has a ton of tool brands under it. Jacob's Chuck, Crescent, Wiss, Armstrong, Gearwrench...etc.
The battery interchangeability problem is a thing of the past. There are adapters readily available on Amazon. You can use a DeWalt battery on a Ryobi. A black and Decker on a Makita. I don't think there is a variant not included in this lineup.
We been on Makita for years at work, but they switched to Hilti and I can safely say you can notice the small differences specially in the ergonomics, they just fit the hand nicer and better overall. That said with Hilti not being keen on selling to consumer or small business, it is hardly worth pursuing it when the Makita or your choice will do the job 95% as well.
Festool to me always been the same thing from the little use I had with them and talking to the people who really need their tools: Their boxes are amazing, no one makes a better system, the tools are alright, but way to damn expensive and well yeah I seen plenty of a Makita, Hilti and metabo being pulled from Festool boxes.
Good info. I recently invested in Bosch. I like their stuff a lot.
Yup. Buy the best and you’ll always be happy.
Makita is my go to, I have an older brushed impact wrench. I use that thing for work as a tow truck operator. I use it to bang tires off that are stuck.
Edit: forgot to mention that I barely have to break out the breaker bar or my 3 lbs crosspeen to take the tires off. I had a mail truck yesterday that I had too use the crosspeen for, but 9/10 times the only thing to come or are the impact wrench and the harbor freight impact sockets
Right as rain on Mac Tools. I purchased a Mac Tools 12v. electric cordless 3/8 ratchet and I can charge the batteries with my DeWalt 12-20v. charger. Also can operate the DeWalt radio with the Mac Tool battery.
Can't go wrong with MAKITA. I still have a Makita corded hammer drill from 1989 that dims the lights just squeezing the trigger!
Check your wiring! :D
steve
LordTorminator: I first used a half inch Makita corded drill in early 1990's, I was used to working with high torque air drills, but this thing nearly broke my wrist. Have purchased Makita tools since then.
Short in the windings? Thinking that is good ****might*** be faulty logic.
That's how you know it's a good tool!
tim the toolman taylor would approve!! Not sure an electrician would be happy about it though
24:06 Makita--
I just bought the 36v right angle drill and I couldnt be happier! I work as a new commercial building plumber and have been using the corded holehog. Not the old school break your arm holehog I remember as a young plumber but that long one. No more lugging around a cord!
As far as a fantasy makita product I would love to see would be a microwave. Getting a hot plate at the jobsite is hard to come by and a portable microwave would be the bees knees although making pizza would be rad as well!
Great video :)
My dad used to have a makita tool, then somehow got rid of it, I have a makita JR3000V from around 1982-ish that I got free from the dumpster. New cord, new carbon brushes and new blades and it works great!
I'm a retired Plumber/Heating/Electrician/Remodeling and Building Contractor. I didn't know what to do with myself so I started to do small handyman jobs. I've bought some 20V Craftsman saws and drills from Lowes. They work great. I still like my big boy corded tools better though.
That Bauer line seems like the sweet spot for the avg homeowner and occasional project-in-the-garage type individual.
The quality seems on par with Craftsman or Ryobi, but the price point is significantly better.
Lots of options and you don’t have to stroll into a Lowe’s/HomeDepot to make a purchase.
Lots of value there!
Better than Black and Crapper at least...
Guy at work has a Bauer 2speed driver drill and worked as a Electrician for almost 2 years drilling lots of 2 x
and it still works 👍 great.
"Project farm" found out the makita cutting wheels are comparable to Diablo & its cheaper.
Love Todd's channel!
steve
i believe Diablo is a material supplier
Yeah there saw blades are just as good as Diablo as well! I have tried both on my Makita 10" compound slider miter saw!
Yeah Makita definitely makes really good stuff, I really like Makita!
Todd (Project Farm) is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I started buying all Dewalt brand power tools because my dad always did. Always seemed too expensive but since I already had some I kept with them. Im glad I did since it is mostly an American company.
I have a Hitachi Hammer drill and impact driver and they work wonderfully awesome. Wouldn't change them and I'm very happy with them.
I've been with Makita for 15 years now, countless tools and batteries.
The batteries last 4 years or so of hard daily use.
I used Makita for about 4 years but their drill chucks continuously failed. I use dewalt now.
@@AlexFlockhart Strange, I've never had a problem with any of them.
I do use the impacts for 90% of the screw running though, usually save the drills for drilling.
@@ajs96350 Same, although I was using the hammer drill function half the time, but they still should have lasted longer than they did.
My Makita drill driver is still going strong after a decade plus of abuse. Looking at getting the impact wrench so I can stick with the same batteries.
I had a makita 4" grinder for 35 years before it bit the dust and I used it at least 1 x a week. First cordless drill I owned was makita used it for 20 years ,I just didn't want to buy any more batteries for it. I loved their 8" circular saw.
Chervon makes many tools under license for Ridgid, such as table saws and tile saws.
G'day,
I saw a "Snap On" 5" cordless grinder a couple of years ago. You could tell it came from the same factory that made my Metabo 5" cordless grinder. I'm sure lots of the components were interchangeable. Tells me the Metabo unit must be good if "Snap on" want them.
I have switched to Makita corded tools and have not looked back.
Yes Makita makes some great tools.
I have use and tried many cord less tools , Makita is by far the best quality , reliability , portable and many companion Accessories great for easy work 👍
I just switched from a Milwaukee to a Makita for my 7" polisher. The Makita is heavier, bigger, more powerful and much easier to handle. Super happy.
I still use my 25 year old Mikita worm drive circular saw. I’ve been through a lot of tools and this is the only one that I still use on a daily basis. I even used it to cut stone with a diamond blade and this thing is a beast. I’ve been using Milwaukee lately but I switching to makita’s cordless tools. I find that Milwaukee’s quality is not as good.
I have a bunch of Makita tools. Love them, few big batteries and they run all day
I ran 18v and 20 porter cable cordless tools since 2011 I never ran into a single issue with them, dropped the impact off the side of the truck god knows how many times still kicking strong, they cost me almost nothing to get into the tool line as a young guy and have paid for themselves hundreds of times over, the 18v tools I had are still kick'n it with one of my younger cousins. i've honestly had very few times on a job where I thought to myself "man I cant do the job with these tools. and remember if someone tells you you're not a real (insert trade) unless you run (insert tool line) they're not a real (insert trade).
Black And White Country I have a 3/8 cordless 18v that I liked using. Good balance, easy torque settings, but both battery packs died. Something in the battery protection circuit stopped the charger from charging. I even tried charging on my RMC models charger, but that didn't work either. Bought a Ryobl kit on sale, and those batteries have far outlasted the Porter Cable ones.
I feel there are just too many players fighting for a small piece of the action. All of them are out to get you sold on their line... and then in 10 years you find that there is no battery support, and no adapters. We are forced to either DIY or pay a battery chain to re-cell the packs for perfectly good tools that have become useless as the companies moved on. Another problem is tools with one weak link that wears out and is not serviceable. I grew up with power tools that you could re-brush, and re bearing. Now some garbage part in a gear train turns to dust and the whole tool becomes trash.
Ha! See and that is why you will hear me sigh when these young [very special people] pipe up with "Brushless or it's junk". I can fix a brushed tool while on the jobsite half the time. When a brushless tools dies, 9 time out of 10 it's just dead. As to the batteries you gave me a grate idea for a video. When the industry switched to lithium ion there was a huge change in form factor and output. There were forced to change the tools and abandon the old battery systems in most cases. But the next step will be 21700 cells which are bigger but can be acommidated for and then after that is solid state (salt) batteries and they are very flexible when it comes to form factor. So hopefully it will be a while before we are foced to change everything again.
That's probably why I tend to be rough with my cordless tools on the assumption that the tool will not last for a very long time. I figure that either the tool itself (with their plastic parts or thin metal) will die out or the battery platform will be abandoned and die out.
My dad, on the other hand, still has corded tools from the 80s/90s and still uses them; although, nowadays, mostly for stuff around his house.
That’s why when you look to buy cordless tools you should find a company that has been around for some time and has a fairly good selection of tools in that battery line. Kinda like the saying you get what you paid for, if you buy cheap then you shouldn’t be surprised when in ten years, if it makes it that long, you have to throw it away and look for a new line.
Bosch did that about 15 to 20 years ago, always had been a good brand people bought the cordless Bosch brand expecting a high quality and well backed product. All of a sudden the battery packs start failing and then you can no longer find the batteries.
Everything has been made disposable now from power tools to ride on mowers. Manufacturers only care about box pushing sales now.
I’ve been using craftsman tools, the cordless ones, for twenty five or thirty years now. It was shortly after they came out with the C 3 battery line. So I’ll probably never get rid of them but have to wonder in ten years if Stanley Black & Decker will offer the batteries for the older Sears Tools. If not then all my old cordless craftsman tools will be worthless once the batteries die, but that’s probably not a problem I will have to deal with in my life time. The first batteries I had from when I first started with the C 3 line just recently gave up the ghost and if any I buy in the next ten years along with the new ones I have last as long, I’ll be 83 to 93 years old and probably not care as I will not be doing as much home repairs and hobby woodworking as I do now. Besides I still have my corded tools so if I’m still puttering around the old shop I’ll just plug in and go to it.
Duane Miller, Get ready for the End by going to EBay and looking up manufacturer’s who rebuild Batteries... I have older PC 19.2 v Tools and get my batteries there... I also have older Milwaukee 12 , 18 an 28 volt tools that I can still get batteries for there online... Good Luck with your Craftsman tools... Greg
The batteries inside that plastic "battery" case are basic off the shelf items.
If you can solder then you can crack that battery pack open, untack the old cells and add in brand new ones.
Lots of ppl will shave off proprietary notches from batteries to make them fit their charger, but very few ppl ever just replace the cells.
With a bit a research you can bring a dead fool back to life.
I've ran the DeWalt 18 volt and 20 volt along with a few others but the Milwaukee M18 system has been the best set of power tools. Milwaukee M18 is all I have and some of them I've had for 7 years now and I haven't had to replace one yet.
I'm 37 years old and I remember my dads old Makita drill where the battery slipped into the handle and he still has that thing and it still works. So I'm building up my Makita set. I have Milwaukee, Mac, and Snapon as im a Geavy Equipment Tech
Mikita needs to make a cordless microwave
Or Milwaukee. Id happly make sure that has a big battery extra charging and swapping.
Haha perfect for on site burritos baby
You would need about 15 amp hours of batteries to run a microwave for 15 minutes
Thanks for another great video
I used to buy B&D cordless drills, but then got frustrated that every time I needed a replacement battery either I couldn't get one or it was cheaper to buy a new drill. Researched Ryobi's battery compatibility before buying and now I am hooked into their 18v system.
Had a black & decker 20v max drill for about 3 years. Used the daylights out of it and just now the transmission went out on it. Saw that Hart had really good reviews and they had a combo pack of the 1/2 drill and impact driver for $94. Its been good so far!
Remember when porter cable drills spun the truest and seemed so well balanced that they flowed with your hand
remember when porter cable made their tools out of aluminum instead of cheap plastic
Pepperidge Farm remembers.....
Rigid pissed me off and lost me for two reasons. My first cordless hammer drill was Rigid 18V and the chuck would just start wobbling. I took good care of it and it wobbled. I took it in to the service center and they replaced the chuck for it to happen again.
The second instance was buying a used miter saw with some broken and missing pieces although it still worked. Me and the guy I bought it from figured because Rigid has a lifetime warranty, I could go get replacements no issue and he gave me a good price on it. WRONG! They get out of their lifetime warranty by discontinuing things left and right. Then they stop making parts and oops, no longer available, can't get it fixed buy a new one! After they told me the parts were unavailable, I asked if parts off newer ones would work, nope, no substitutes. I took a good look at parts for newer ones and I literally could not tell the difference. I took a chance and bought the parts to see if they would work. They were an exact fit, no issues. They lied to my face and told me those parts would not work and they fit perfect. Never again.
I have gone Bosch. Not many people around me do so that means when they show up second hand, I can usually get them for a good price. I love the fact that they still make their own tools. I am not getting someone else's white box or OEM. I have been frustrated by their lack of 12V options but they have significantly improved. Their pricing has been a bit higher and there are less places to buy them but I noticed this Christmas they had a huge sale, on the scale I have never seen before. I picked up a couple things I had been sitting on because they usually never or very rarely go on sale. I wonder if they are about to make a bigger push into the prosumer market.
I have had bad luck with Rigid and Dewalt. I haven't had Milwaukee but I have talked to people who work at a repair center and they told me that's the one they see the most of in my area but in my area, Milwaukee is extremely popular so that just might be a factor of more of them out there.
I used to work with tools for a living and got sick and tired of the cheap crap that every one buys with the idea if it breaks just buy a new one. Well, when I am on a lift 20' up in 20 degree weather with snow and wind in my face, I want my tool to work. I can't be running to Harbor Freight once a month getting a tool replaced. Buy it once and buy it for life is now what I do.
And know I'm not hating on Milwaukee I have the 2853 impact driver which with a brand new 6.0 battery still cuts out when driving several 1/2 inch lags that are 6 inch with no pilot hole in pressure treated 4 x 6 and my 2804 drill with 6.0 battery also it works great except for the damn chuck will randomly lock up so tight I have to put in vise to get bit out I'm just happy I still have my perfect old reliable dewalt DCD996 which has been beaten to a bloody pulp and still works flawlessly
I was waiting for more info on who makes harbor freight power tools. I’m always curious who makes them for them .
My dad has some old black and decker gear from the 70s-80s. Made in the UK, its really good quality stuff, even today. Now its all made in China and terrible.
I have that porter cable set and have put it through the paces. Drill and impact was the first two to die. Had them 6 years and used daily.
You will get a laugh on my tool chest.
In the late 80’s early 90’s I bought the biggest box Snap-On box. So my Snap On guy gets the box for “show and tell” so I order the box, and then called my wife after I bought it and she was busy and the owner ask if she could take a message ( I’m thinking suuuurrrreeee just let her know I bought the tool box)
Lmbo not a minute later I get page over the PA Thom line 1 your wife is on the phone. And you all know how that went over. I was in the dog house 😂😂😂😂. Take Care.
Had to sell my big tools and move into an apt. Oh well only have 20 years left anyway!!!! Did love my tools tho.
How many of us here started their cordless tool journey with the 9.6v Makita drill
Still got one of those in the back of the shop. Ugly and not ergonomic, but still works!
What impresses me is how heavy they were
That was my first cordless.
Porter Cable 12volt. However the 0.6v Makita is an icon. I see it everywhere to this day.
Still have a couple
Porter Cable was the premium corded tool, routers and sanders were the number one. Search the locomotive or train belt sander. Built to last. Family company.
I made the switch to Kobalt from porter cable a few months back after some comments back and forth with you. You didn't lead me wrong bear. I have a decent selection of Kobalt now and am happy with them all.
I also tried out Bauer and its not been bad either.
Like I said yesterday in the Live Stream, you are slowly turning me into a Makita kind of guy.
A cordless microwave would be AWESOME!!!
Sir, you are a genius
A cordless microwave SHOULD be awesome.
Scott Boyd The microwave... no problem! But it would take two men and a boy to carry the battery. 1500 watts max, with 1350 watts nominal. So if you do the math, 1500 watts at 20 volts gives you a current draw of 75 amps. You'd need welding cable to carry that much amperage.
Or you could use a 120 volt converter mounted onto a 12 volt battery, but at only 12 volts, the battery has to be able to supply around 125 amps to prevent the converter output sagging to a lower voltage. Btw, microwave ovens do NOT like trying to work at low voltages. Ask me how I know... 😖
When i left his employ my stepdad got me the 400 dollar Kobalt tool kit. That was years ago. I am still using the kit and adding onto it all the time. This kit is as good or better than his Milwaukees, those are his words (And mine. He has Milwaukee... Kobalt has the same warranty as them, too.) I wish Kobalt had the massive array of tools that Milwaukee does but it's an amazing tool set and I have no regrets as a professional.
I work for a company that uses preset torque hand drivers and Ingersoll Rand is pretty much all we use for our preset torque hand drivers. In my personal life going from the information you provided me, I decided to go with the Ridgid brand since I couldn't afford the power tools that has the city I live and grew up in as its namesake.
Although, the Home Depot I purchased my tools at is just down the road from the Milwaukee Tools headquarters.
It's funny, the world may be going cordless, however, the CORDED electric impact wrench is the new quiet consumer rage. These new a/c driven models are for consumers that need to remove lug nuts and do car and house repairs. The corded wrenches generally have more torque than a cordless version for the dollar, but not nearly the torque a pneumatic impact wrench would typically have. Even so, the electric corded impacts have respectable torque numbers and are plenty strong for the DIY home mechanic. Plus, there's no batteries to kill from infrequent use. So here's where it clashes with the bear's perspective... Porter Cable (Stanley B&D) makes one of the best selling corded 1/2" impact wrenches called thre PCE211 with 450 ft.lbs of torque for $80 on Amazon. Almost all the legit reviews and youtube videos are positive, with most complaints being the 7.5lbs weight. You'd be wise to be aware that some cordless battery impact wrenches are often measured in inch-lbs, not ft. lbs like the corded versions, so be aware of that. The inch-lbs marketing strategy is probably used because they don't want to show a low ft. lbs torque number on the box, ie. 335ft. lbs of torque at $159.(batteries not included)!
Some companies of both electric and cordless impact wrenches also show Breakaway or Nutbusting torque. It's definitely marketing at work here folks.
Dispell the mystery of "breakaway torque" video;
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Here's a decent electric impact wrench for the money;
www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-PCE211-7-5-Impact-Wrench/dp/B07255QCN4/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1A7936CGWRWPT&keywords=1%2F2+impact+wrench&qid=1579059515&sprefix=1%2F2%22%2Caps%2C436&sr=8-6
I have to disagree with your blanket statement regarding how cordless impacts are rated. Some models can be rated in in-lbs., but there are even more that are rated in ft-lbs.
@@ClintsTractor You're right. I should have said "some". I will edit that in. I just wanted to make people be aware to look closely at the type of torque measurement these companies use. Thanks.
When it comes to Ridgid vs Milwaukee for service, the difference is probably that Ridgid themselves handle the Customer Service and TTi just provides the tools. Just my guess though.
Milwaukee is a pleaser to deal with. Rigid in the oil field cost me hours wasted.
Just invested in Makita. I’ve been using Ryobi since the start, Ridgid for 3 years, and I just started on M12, but I wanted to start on my true pro line and decided that Makita was gonna be the best brand I could jump into. I’m excited to see where it goes. Really want the coffee maker
Electrolux owns AEG, they bought them in 2005.
TTI has a license to make AEG.
I just can't bring myself to buy Craftsman tools anymore. I liked their hand tools when I was younger, but I found their power tools to be pretty uneven. When B&D started reviving the brand I bought a couple of hand tools and they were worse than Pittsburgh and a lot more expensive, and that turned me off them. Maybe things are better now, but I just avert my eyes when I see Craftsman tools of any kind.
hardlyb fortunately for me I have a fairly complete line in the old handtools from 40 years ago. Haven’t had to look at the newer ones because I just don’t need anything right now. If I do need something it’s just because I can’t find the tools I already have because they’re kind of scattered around and when that happens I usually go to Harbor freight or Walmart and pick up something inexpensive to get the job done.
I have an old Craftsman drill from 1976. Other than a bearing making noise it still works. It binds a little when you first start it but then it works fine. They don't make their stuff like that anymore.
william neuman who does these days. Have an old drill that was my grandfather’s that he got some time in the late 50s to early 60s. It’s close to my age or older and it runs great but I don’t use it because it needs a new cord. Thing is that I like it all original so it’s hard for me to just simply put a new cord on it. It’s big heavy and ugly but I think the thing is going to outlive me.
@@williamneuman7783 Pop it apart to clean and lube. Then keep on going...
@prospectorrat@gmail.com I'm hoping some of these companies will realize they need to make stuff elsewhere. I buy American when I can find it, unless the price is totally absurd, and then I try to get tools made in Germany, Japan, Taiwan, S Korea, and Eastern Europe (in no particular order). But too often I'm reduced buying from the virus exporters.
Looking at the comments I'm glad im not the only one who thinks a portable microwave would be rad
I’ve got a few old black and decker silver metal cased tools that still work a 3/8 drill and a jigsaw
I have and old B&D jig saw with replaceble brushes - (never replaced) I have cut literally thousands of things with it since the early 80s where I bought it used at a garage sale.
I've got an old Craftsman that has an all metal, polished case. It's probably 40 years old and runs smooth and quiet. Replaced a plastic Craftmade that was probably 20 years old and the old solid metal version is way nicer.
I bought a Bauer drill from HF, and I'm pretty impressed. It's not as good as my makitas, but it's great for around the house. I got it on clearance because of open box. I then bought a blower and a huge battery. I finally like a tool from HF
I bought a Bauer orbital sander, it was $23.00, I needed a new hook n loop pad for my Dewalt, the pad was $29.00. They have the same mounting pattern. The Dewalt is just a bit more powerful, but the Bauer feels like a real tool, I was very surprised, so much surprised I went back and bought the Bauer shop vac. Im impressed with both.
I got the Bauer Jig Saw for $54 it has a laser and is great.
I want Ryobi to make an 18v battery coffee maker
Heart already has vacuum
Makita makes one
Hhyper Tough and Chicago? those are my two favorite all time tool brands and they are not listed here?
I'm starting to like HyperTough. I was at WalMart recently and noticed they had a HyperTough cordless angle grinder which is new to me. They even upgraded the HyperTough cordless drill; it seems beefier and has a 1/2 inch chuck.
Recently got into hyper tough line for some yard tools. Weedwhacker and chainsaw and so far quite happy with them. Found them on clearance last year and figured for the price it was worth trying them out.
As for Chicago, it’s a harbor freight tool so it fits in with Bowar and Hercules line.
So, HyperTough is/was made by Stanley-Black&Decker. They were the WalMart house brand. They appear to have lost the WalMart deal to Hart/TTI.
If you're into the HyperTough line/batteries and you like them then keep an eye on the whole line going on clearance in the near future. You might find some deals.
However, if you're not into their line yet then I would completely avoid it. You may end up with a zombie platform.
As far as "Chicago" goes, there are two separate brands. There is the "Chicago Electric" brand at Harbour Freight and then there is the "Chicago Pneumatic" line that is owned by Atlas Copco. They are completely different lines at total opposite ends of the spectrum. This is much like the "Diablo" air hoses at HF that have nothing to do with the Diablo Tools that makes saw blades.
i been thinking of purchasing either the hyper tough or chicago Reciprocating Saw
bird718 you might want to think about the Hart brand. It’s Reasonably priced at Walmart otherwise it have to go with hyper tough. How ever I have never seen one. All the hyper tough tools I’ve seen are yard and garden stuff. My experience with those Chicago electric cordless tools isn’t the best. Gave one to a friend but it died after just a few uses.
My B&D corded Hedge Hog Edger has been an incredible tool. Every time I use it, I think surely this thing will die today, but it keeps chugging along. I don’t like dragging out 100 foot of extension cord to edge my yard, but the thing has lasted for over 10 years. I’m on only my second one since buying my present house 25 years ago. And yes, I edge a lot - about every two to three weeks in the summer as I live in Northwest Florida where the cutting season is about 8 months of the year, and I’m on about a third of an acre with about 500 feet, between my sidewalk, driveway and street frontage that needs to be edged. The cost can’t be beat - under 50 bucks for an edger that lasts for years. It does eat some blades. I have to put a new one on each season, but I love the fact that I plug it it up and it runs - no gas, oil, or batteries to charge. I have a B&D Hedge Hog Hedge Trimmer as well. I know B&D tools are known for being cheap, but these tools have served me well.
Corded 👍
Wish I would’ve known this info a couple years back, when I need to upgrade from my DIY ryobi stuff. Had I known Makita was independent I would definitely chosen them over Milwaukee. I love my Milwaukee stuff, but I like supporting the “little guy”
Grizzly is in Springfield Missouri
...and Bellingham Washington.
So Bosch is basically the H&K of the tool world, then :)
Hilti or Festool would be a more accurate comparison.
There is one company not mentioned on here which is SUMEC they are a Chinese company who build various budget power tools, engines and garden power equipment. We see a few of their items in the UK but they have been known to sell items in the USA.
BOSCH is sold at Menards and Lowe’s. I use the 12v tools at work for my “light duty” jobs and I use Dewalt 20v tools for my “bigger” jobs(I’m skilled trades in automotive). Lowe’s only sells the 18v Bosch instore, Menards sells BOTH 12v and 18v Bosch tools. I gotta say, millwright for 22+ years and using power tools at work, my personal choice is Bosch and Dewalt and the 12v line of Bosch are straight awesome tools! In my experience Bosch makes the best 12v line of tools.
You had me dying when you started talking about festool lmao 😂
Several years ago I bought my mom an electric can opener, it was black n decker. It didn't work worth crap brand new and then quit working all together in less than a month, black n decker can't even make a decent can opener so I'd never buy any of their tools, my dad said they used to be really good but they sure suck now
The B&D home goods are owned by Spectrum Brands. Totally separate from tools.
I have B&D drill and saber saw I bought for about cheap back in the 1970’s - always been noisy but still work fine.
Recently got into a Metabo 18/36v impact.... When I walked into Lowes for a need set of black and gold 20v batteries. This was on sale for 159 with two batt and fast charger. Cheaper than batteries for Deeeewalt.
Sad to see Porter Cable this way. I was looking specifically for a 3 hp Porter router to replace my 50 year old Stanley and learned they're not being made anymore. It was such a solid, quality brand.
mac tool do sell dewalt on there trucks
Porter Cable has become Tractor Supply Company s go to brand. Good sale prices, just not a ton of quality.
Porter Cable and Craftsman are the same tools with different color schemes now and you are right they are not very good. The drills are pretty good and the Craftsman brushless line are good tools. However, they have some issues right now with motors going up in smoke in the cordless lines with Porter Cable cordless Oscilating tools, Craftsman cordless Sawzall's and even Dewalts top of the line impact driver the DCF 887 model. I personally invested in a whole slew of the new Craftsman 20Volt line and liked them until I did some real work with them and then the sawzall went up in smoke cutting through nails doing a demo and the Blade left 6 1/2" circular saw was bending at the base plate connection point to the plastic guard causing it to go off track. Took them all back and now I have Bosch and Makita cordless tools plus a couple of Kobalt's. I have the Kobalt 7 1/4" cordless mitre saw and really like it!
I bought a Porter Cable Shop Series drill driver for $14.99. Loved it so much I bought a second one at the same store a month later for $24.99 - Used them both extensively for a year now with no complaints. Good 18v power and decent battery life. At this price how can I complain? Research shows that others like them too. Having said that, I can fine 0 positive reviews of any other PC shop series tools - shop series generally speaking seems not worth owning. But Im happy so far with the drill drivers.
I use Porter Cable tools every day on construction sites. Never once failed me. The quality is definitely there.
I had no idea this subject would be so interesting. I saw the bear and was like, "Oh gawd wtf?" then... I watched the entire video. Very entertaining and informing.
AEG (Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft ) was originally a German company. The tool section of the company was sold to TTI (Techtronic Industries) in 2009 as you pointed out. Here on Europe they are on everything from washing machines to locomotives. We have Ridgid over here too, but it's mostly their plumbing tools. Great review by the way 😁👍
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