The Parent Company of Every RV Brand. How Many Do You Know?
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2021
- While it may be common knowledge that most RV brands are owned by larger companies, many don't realize those companies are all organized in different ways. In this video, we're going to share who makes what RV, and some insights about how those companies operate.
Full disclosure, we are not going to get all 300+ brands in this video, so it is possible your favorite may not make it in this quick rundown. This is the beginning of a series of videos, and in the future, we will be taking a closer look at individual brands. So stay tuned!
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Welcome to another RV life video from RV Miles! Were you surprised by who owns what? Did we miss your favorite RV? We couldn't. get to them all, but this is just the beginning of a series of videos where we bring you just the facts about who owns what, and who makes what. We hope you'll share your thoughts with us on this whether this type of content is useful. Please remember to keep your comments kind and to the point, and we promise to do the same. Thanks! Jason and Abby
thank you...now that i am more confused...
My Brain is just confused now thanks it’s just unreal how this all works
About Thor. We made a mistake and bought an RV that would not accommodate my wife's disability, a Gemini 23TW. I sent a letter to Thor customer service, on a hope and a prayer. A dealership reached out to us saying that the VP from Thor had contacted them and was willing to buy back our TW and get us into a more accommodating camper. I will never forget this level of service. Thank you.
Big thumbs up for how much research must have gone into this.
This is the best overview on the Rv world on UA-cam hands down
You should do a video focusing entirely on the small independent manufacturers like Lazy Daze
Thanks for the shout out to Northwood and Outdoors RV (both owned by Northwood) our Outdoors RV trailer is an absolute beast and delivers on their true 4 seasons and off grid mantra. Just know that even their smallest offerings require a 3/4 ton tow vehicle.
Wait…. Wait…. Wait…. Did you say…. Ahh heck I lost track, can you start over again? 🥺. Oh, I can watch it again, and again…. Wow, that’s a lot of choices…. Impressive presentation. Thanks.
Great Video. Many are completely unaware that all these brands are just marketing hype, but the design and build is almost exaclty the same.
Well done! If you include fiberglass you have done your homework and are truly trying! Thanks for including our personal fav Oliver.
Whew! My head IS spinning. Very interesting video, guys. Did not realize the extent of RV models, makes, etc.
Thanks both for such a well planned, scripted, delivered and interesting overview of the many and few RV parent, subsidiary and independent manufacturers. Whew! Great job!
Hey this show was very good, well produced, well written. Keep producing them like this. I like your RV news too!
Northern Lite and Bigfoot in Canada make some of the best Truck campers. Great list and a lot of brands out there.
This is so helpful. It’s something I’ve been wanting to know for a long time.
Yup...head is spinning!! Knew there were a ton of brands and only a few manufacturers, but WOW!! And some surprises too!
Great job putting this all together! 👍👏👏👏 Full-time life on the road gets more interesting with each year. Safe travels!
Yes it does! Safe travels to you too.
Impressive That is the most compressive list I have ever seen.
Appreciate this comment, Richard. Thanks!
Damn!!!! You guys did your homework!!! This absolutely blew my mind. Just got back from the Hersey show and never knew this info.
So interesting! Thanks for the rundown.
Thank you so very much for this video!
Very educational!
yes super into the start of this series! can't wait to see what's next! gimme all the info!!
WOW! That was dizzying. Thanks for your video. Cheers!!!
Yes! New Horizons made the list! We truly enjoy ours.
Very interesting. You guys always have such great material
Seems like they could eliminate 2/3’s of those brands and use the savings to develop modern factories where the processes and quality control are fine tuned to deliver more affordable and reliable products.
You could say the same thing about GM 15+yrs ago. They are doing the same shit, with the same stuff and same wool pulled over your eyes now... that they are then.
1. Quality Control is a piece of Psychology that no one gets 100%
2. You can spend 40g or 4mil and get the same shit...
3. "Affordable" and or "Reliable" is also Psychology. These things..= RVs dont last 10+yrs without major infusions of cash. Affordable, they are strictly based on the scale of disposable income. HOW much cash are you willing to throw away? Also, dont even think about how much you might get back....
@@SlidTossedPissed Agree. I see that a lot with cars... same old stuff with different names. There's nothing to blow our minds and our money away.
Eventually I think there will be massive consolidation into much fewer brands and fewer models. Right now the industry quality is very poor
Great video. I would love to see another video that goes through all of the smaller brands out there.
This was very well explained. I had no idea that all these companies, either part of or owner of so many brands, wow. Thanks for the info.
Close to monopolies. Yes?
What a great review.
I’m glad I’m a Winnebago fan.
Just saw a very old winnebago, it is at a shop being worked on, it's a real antique! Not much of a front end, I'd hate to get into a collision in it.
Thanks for this video. I’ll be shortly venturing into the RV inspection and repair business. In order to start preparing for this I began compiling a database with much of what you covered only for the towables. It pretty much blew my mind. But then you started covering the “other 20%” and I was lost. Great stuff. If you’ve saved all of your research in a database and would like to share it, please let me know. Thanks again. Great work.
I just love how polished you guys are!
Thanks so much, Claire! The teleprompter is our very best friend. -Abby
I was mostly talking about you Abby! But everything else is polished too!
Whoa jack! This is mind numbing! Information overload!
Thank You.
My head just exploded! 💣
Great video. I now need some Advil because my head is hurting. I knew there were parent companies but had no idea to what extent. Keep the content coming
Wow, one of your most comprehensive videos yet - you nailed it! So with all the RV M&A activities changing monthly, am I sensing you've found your new career? 🚐🤓😜
Whew so many!! That was interesting to hear for sure, thanks!
Very welcome! Thanks for watching.
Great info guys. Yes, it is very confusing. Thanks, Vanessa
Wow! That was a lot of work putting that all together! Thanks for a great RV overview. We started taking notes and quit. Hah! You guys look great.
We’ll be working on a written breakdown of this for people to download, so stay tuned. 😀
Awesome video I can't believe you remembered them all 😆😆😆😆🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦
Yes my head is spinning-We have a Thor Aria DP 3401 -I have some thoughts on all this but to much to write-really great Video 👍🏻👍🏻🚌😁🇺🇸
We love our ATC (Aluminum Trailer Company). No wood to rot! Totally Aluminum, just run hose when toys get it dirty. Enjoyed the video.
We are a REV Group customer with a Fleetwood. Just bought a new Bounder 33C and although General RV delivered it to us in horrible shape, lots of issues once we get them all corrected the Bounder will be a great RV. Consolidation has been the name of the game for years in every industry, not just the RV industry. Good, Bad I dunno. It just is what it is.
Great video loved sneak peak new home
MInd boggeling, but what corporate structure isn't these days. When I worked for Ford they had something like 3,200 subsidiaries. Everything from Jaguar and Volvo to niche companies in the racing industry. Interesting video. Just for the record I bought from Nexus, a small private company in Elkhart. Keep the good stuff coming guys.
👍👍👍, there’s another say that goes along with is your head spinning & it’s as clear as mud😄
Enlightening info. I think the Europeans are a step ahead with their more parking friendly motorhomes. They have great designs, too.
In Europe it's necessary to make small RV's because most towns and villages have small roads and the distance to travel in one shot is not very long. In the US. It takes 4-5 days to drive across it one way and there many areas out west that don't have stores and gas stations for long distances. Not to mention everything isn't so cramped so parking lots and roadways are much bigger. Engineers don't have to pack everything onto a small space which in turn drives up the cost not just for manufacturing but service also.
Thank you! Some of the mystery is revealed.
Very well done! Super interesting research! ThomyT
Great video. I heard Prime Time, that's what we have
The improvement needs to be made in service after purchase. That is the biggest complaint, I hear from new Thor and Forest River owners. 90% of them have issues that are not addressed for 4 to 6 months. Some so major they cant use it at all for that amount of time. Makes me glad I bought used.
Wow! I can’t believe that you named almost all the Rv brands and owners. Lol! That’s a lot of ownership and Rvs. Some of the Rvs I have not heard of yet. That’s a lot Warren Buffet owns too. Thank you both so much for this information. I just never knew there was so many Rvs. Abs owners. Hope all is well. Have a great night and see you both soon.
I was fully grasping everything you said right up to where you said "By our count there are well over 300 brands of RV's in North America". After that, everything was as clear as mud.
Holy cow! I'm in Minnesota and we go to state forest campgrounds, we honestly don't see that many motor home rvs . See them while on the road though, they make scamps in Backus Minnesota, family owned, we almost have our aliner ready to roll. New tires, now a quick fix, I hope, of one more thing and we're off!! We have a very nice tent as a "just in case" . With all those manufacturers out there of larger rvs, it seems it must be very crowded all over the place. Hope everyone is safe and having great times! Did you already show off your new home? From the background it looks lovely. Happy for you guys!
Wowzers... that's a lot of rv's.
How n the heck can you choose. Omg. Fascinating. Thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks for watching!
Yes FTC love it.
I have to admit...I had no idea there were so many! I have an Entegra and had no idea Thor owned so much! Thanks a bunch!!
You bet!
Oh my goodness! You broke my brain. Imma nap.
Great job with the research on this. Kinda like diagraming a sentence back in school!
I HATED diagramming sentences. My English teacher’s name was Mr. Freers and he looked like lurch from the Addams family and was legitimately a mortician on the weekends.
@@RVMiles Too funny!!! Have we had you on THE CAMPER REPORT SHOW yet?
@@agawam68 we talked about it, but weren't available for the slot you had. One or both of us would love to come on.
WOW!
Here's what gets me... I'm looking at a Grand Design 2600rb and an east to west 2600krb. Pretty much identical. Yet, two different parent companies? This industry is even more convoluted than the small engine industry was in the 2000s! LOL :)
Amen! Consumer Reports doesn't measure the qualities of campers, so it is like flying blind. Thanks for the post!
Wow oh wow! Thank you for researching this. I do wish you could continue with all the rest... and in printable form. Funny how my two top choices of all before I bought were Canadian... not saying much for my needs in American made imo. ( I bought Pleasureway- and their staff is amazingly helpful! Another important item for me.)
I had sales people from several Gerzenys and La Mesa dealers who didn’t give me the time of day.))
Hey- how about a ratings list next? (Done by professional company ?)
Okay you're right, my head is spinning.
I'd keep an eye on Alliance in the 5th wheel and toy hauler configurations. Grand Design (GD) is generally regarded as a market front-runner in these RV categories, but Alliance has a few former GD employees in key production positions and the leadership has decent pedigree. The thing I like about Alliance is that they are very open to owner input to the point of being obsessed about what real life owners are asking for. 😊👍
Yeah, the same business philosophy Grand Design had before getting too big and then being bought out by Winnebago. Now Grand Design is just another RV manufacturer and is no better or worse then its competition.
Thank you for all the info. It must have been a nightmare editing with all the photos you included!
The photos were a full RV Miles team effort and did have our heads spinning like the swoops and swirls on the side of almost every RV. 🤣 Abby
So proud to own a camper from a “family run company”. Vintage cruiser by Gulf Stream Rocks! 😀
Thank you! Some kind of list or spreadsheet shot would've been extremely helpful.
How did you keep it straight. Nice vid
Embassy RV us a wonderful Class B builder.
Wow! Just given the number of different RV types it would appear the travel trailer and 5th wheel are the top sellers. Is there a breakdown of sales by type? I’m actually curious if the Super C on a commercial truck chassis is growing in sales and what percent of the market they represent. I see more of them on the road and it appears as though more manufacturers are developing this class of RV.
Where does Luxe RV stand? Thanks for the research and video.
Thanks for clearing up the real mess out there. The industry has blown up this year and used units are getting harder to find .
Have you seen the Airstream pottery barn
Do you have a power point or a vision diagram?
Nice
Your thoughts about quality would be helpful. There's a lot of junk out there. Out of all of the manufactures out there, who is truly building the best quality product?
I want to let you know that I found your you tube channel from Josh The RV Nerd at Haylett Rv.
Our thanks to Josh for his continued support and thanks for stopping by. We hope to see you around our channel again!
Can you do a video on companies that don’t use Lippert to make their frames? Reading many posts stating this company’s frames not up to par.
I wish you would have covered what companies own what Popup campers. Even though it's not to hard to figure out.
Great video, Luxe has been quite recently and did not make your list.
what is with the camper at 11:39 with the door that opens on the driver side? Good vid.
Along with Oliver and Casita we own a Escape fiberglass trailer made in Chilliwack Canada. Check them out.
We’re still looking for our “perfect” first RV. It’s interesting that so much of the industry is controlled by so few…
We like Country Coach as well as Wanderlodges, take that you corporate giants.
You really should check out Lazy Daze in California
@@Barry.Ellis. thank you, I’ll have a look
@@hughwolfe1176 Small and family owned since the 50's, and very high quality with a reasonable price.
We have a 90 blue bird Wanderlodge sp36 diesel pusher.. best bus / motorhome I've owned....
@@ListerMotorsports sounds nice, what is the cargo capacity of Wanderlodges? I’ve found some motorhomes are very low, making them less than ideal
Great video and Abby is as beautiful as ever!
Thanks again for your of the beat and path content. But very relevant. I call this useful but useless conversation, campfire topic. This is up my alley. Now here is the trick question, do you have a pdf do I can download. I wanted to do this from awhile You Save me from doing all the research. Thanks 😊
Working on it!
❤ Will we see you at Hershey RV show in September 2021 ?
Interesting. I had no idea Jayco, Keystone and Airstream were all part of the same extended family. I knew a lot of the Forest River brands were related but didn’t know Berkshire Hathaway owned them (explains Haylett RV’s Josh’s “Don’t sue me Warren Buffet!” jokes, now I get it!)
It’s funny how the different brands have similar levels. I’d put Rockwood/Flagstaff up with Keystone and both up with Grand Design while Jayco can be in that tier or up against Wildwood/Salem… and Airstream is just their own ridiculously high niche product level which doesn’t map well against the others (for better or for worse.)
Very interesting. It doesn’t really change my opinions on any of them because they are all so separate but it does explain the reason some compete against others without cannibalizing from those within the family so to speak. Wildwood isn’t going to go all aluminum frame to compete with Rockwood for example. Jayco isn’t going to make Airstream-like RVs ever.
Yeah and then within brands there are huge ranges, too. For instance, you can't expect the same quality from a Jay Flight that you get out of a North Point, both made by Jayco, but by different people in different factories for a wildly different price point.
What does Forest River not own would have been a good place to start 🤔
Wholy buckets! Here I thought Lance was independent of the major manufacturers. We've been looking at a 4 season trailer from Lance because of the design and quality (and we thought they were independent). We may have to rethink our selection.
REV picked them up 2 years ago I think. REV makes good stuff though. Not much low-end in their lineup
Hi there! I just found & subscribed to your Channel, seems that you're great researchers, so I'm hoping you can help: Last year I bought a used 2005 KIT (Mnfctr.) "Companion" Model 328F 5th Wheel Trailer from a private party only to find out the Company went out of business (it's plant was in Southern California). I've been trying to get info on the MANY things I need to know about repairs, model #s of appliances, plumbing & electrical diagrams, etc. as I try to get needed repairs done. I'm a 68 yr old disabled widow & alone with only a cellphone (no computer). This is my only home...I rent space with water & elec. on private property. Can you HELP?! Please & Thank you. Looking forward to more of your videos.
Very interesting. Is there a list or spreadsheet off all that? LOL
Not yet! But we are working on one and will let everyone on UA-cam know as soon as it is done. :-)
My head is spinning! Lol
We’re looking to upgrade - guess we’re going to buy a Thor (subsidiary) or a Winnebago (subsidiary B). Detailed enough? Yeah - totally confused…..
I am surprised. The ones that I like are not a part of the Big 4!
Where does Starcraft fit in? Our family had a pop up trailer from them in the 1960's.
We mentioned them briefly, they're owned by Thor!
Storyteller Overland an independent RV Manufacturer. So far, they have not disappointed me.
This entire video should be laid out in flow chart form.
Correction: BH doesn't have partial ownership, they are share holders: As of March 2017, 65% of Berkshire's equity securities were concentrated in five companies: American Express Company ($12.0 billion), Apple Inc. ($19.2 billion), The Coca-Cola Company ($17.0 billion), International Business Machines Corporation (IBM) ($11.2 billion), and Wells Fargo & Company ($27.8 billion). After a selloff of IBM stock in February 2018, on May 4, 2018, Buffett announced that Berkshire had completely sold its stake in IBM, and purchased more of Apple.
There are not enough campgrounds with spots for all the RVs.
I heard they did that all from memory.
#accurate lol
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No mention of Alfa Leisure. lol
I just purchased a Class A. Who the Precept?