All of the categories are very close except for the one most important to points...playmaking. That one is not very close. Ty is the best player and by the end of this next season it won't look so close. Pacers go to playoffs, with Ty on the leaderboard for assists and steals. Ty's D will also improve, while Brunson will always be short.
Man if only if was a fifth we’d all be buzzed, New York last time in second round of playoffs was 2012 and last year Brunson carried New York, and was a series away from eastern conference finals as Halliburton watched on TV! If you must know I’m a Mavericks fan, so angry we let him get away!
Halliburton is the better playmaker, Brunson the better scorer. I take Brunson to start a team. I just think he has the capability to put a team on his back and carry them. He literally had no help in the playoffs and he still perform at a very high level. Guy has been a proven winner everywhere his been. I think Hali is great but man Jalen has that “IT Factor” that Dog mentality. I don’t see that yet on Hali. But he’s young let’s see what happens.
Haliburton definitely puts his team on his back aswell. He's their leading scorer and they almost lost every game he missed with injury. Plus, imo, being a crazy efficient 20 & 10 guy is way better than a less efficient guy who scores a little more and makes less plays for his teammates. Those extra assists give might aswell be Haliburton co-scoring and running the whole court with his crazy basketball IQ. Brunson great asf still tho
@@YokedDrunkardagreed. I think Brunson has to share the ball a lil more with randle maybe he could have points but still a solid take and 2 great players
Jalen Brunson is the better, as far as play making his concern I definitely 100% give the edge to halliburton, defensively I will give the edge to haliburton, everything else goes to else goes to Jalen Brunson.
@@hoophierarchy Brunson was the better shooter from 3 and from to this year. So I don't see how you came to that conclusion that halyburton was a better shooter
Well like I mention in the video, Brunson has a slightly higher percentage this past season, but shot quite a bit less as far as volume (a raise in volume typically causes a decrease in percentage) for the rest of their careers Haliburton has been a higher percentage shooter. Along with that, Hali has superior range. If Brunson’s volume increases next year while keeping a 40% 3pt percentage, I would give him more credit here, but he just isn’t as good as Haliburton at shooting as of now
@@hoophierarchy Brunson is the better player, because he has shown it with Dallas in the Playoffs, and with the Knicks Spolstra has said as much in regards to Brunson. Even in head to heads Brunson be cooking Haliburton. Last but not least, what has Haliburton done in his career, let alone Indiana in regards to team success? This is why Kerr went with Brunson foe team USA, because he is a better leader than Haliburton. Place Brunson on that same pacers squad, and there's no doubt in my mine, there at least a play in team, put Haliburton on the Knicks, and they don't make the playoffs. Give me Brunson all day
@@yvesleveque128 pacers were basically last place in East till Hali got there. also how the hell do you know he would be cooking hali. basketall is not a one on one sport you know. you can effect the game without the ball. Also Hali is responsible for more points then JB
Wait, in a comparison of two individual players, you are giving the guy with team achievements the points over the guy with individual achievments??? 🤔
Well team achievements do reflect on an individual. They reflect on ability to lead and ability to win. There’s a reason MJ is considered the GOAT, and if he didn’t have 6 championships he wouldn’t be in the discussion
and kerr wanted ant edwards to come off the bench so u tellin me haliburton better than ant cuz if u belive that u smokin crack rock my boy @@Fatboyjo2.1
U must be blind lol its not even close.. brunson is better talent wise but he is also better personality wise.. 1 can careless about winning and jokes around all the time and the other has that it factor and is a killer on the court and thats JB.. i mean the kings traded tyreese and look how much better they became and look how shit the pacers were lol
I can’t believe guys really think Tyree’s is close to Brunson ..did you not here what Steve Kerr said smh this guy has to be the most underated nba player in history
Brunson's better he is proving to be a franchise-changing talent ;the Knicks were the lottery team the year before. Number two ;he is playoff tested; Knicks could have gone to the finals had Randle and I Q not been injured.
@@canniestdoor sorry Knicks did make the playoffs with that roster and got bounced in the first round, following year same roster didn’t make playoffs, Brunson carried them to the second round while Halliburton watched on TV.
@@Jsanchez-yh3qbhalliburton and the pacers were in the sixth seed of the East ahead of the knicks at the time that he got injured, once halliburton got injured they lost 15 out of 16 and dropped
@@hoophierarchy if you just look at the simple concept of WINNING you take Brunson over Haliburton. Haliburton can keep his All Star Pin. I'm surprised he played enough games to qualify for that.🤣
@@canniestdoortrue Haliburton been good since he been in the league look at his stats from rookie season into now look at jalen stats rookie season into now Haliburton better
James Harden played 37 minutes last season compared to Tyrese 32... Tyrese lost league assists leader by .01... Yet Harden is better?? Gtho.. Hali would have blow Harden away with 35 minutes compared to Hardens 37.. hell even 33 mins would have gave him a better average. Bet. Haliburton is by far the best passer in the league easy...
This is a disrespect on brunson he is proven himself in regular season have experienced in the playoffs he controll the pace of the game he show up on all the bigger the game the bigger he play
Haliburton got my vote. He is a better assist guy. He is 4 yrs younger and love to pass the balls and unselfish. He plays decent defense. He is a better shooter too
This is mostly all superficial comparison. Brunson is clearly the better player when it matters most. He’s a top tier performer under pressure and I’m taking that over anything else every single time.
The critique of it being a superficial comparison while you say something like “he’s just more clutch” is contradictory. I provide statistical evidence in all notable guard categories, which is 100% substantive as opposed to superficial, while saying Brunson is “top tier under pressure” is opinionated. I don’t disagree, I think he’s great under pressure. But what evidence are we using to make that comparison? Can we say that Haliburton is not clutch? He’s hit a number of clutch shots in his career. Brunson has been around longer and has played on better teams so he has more big game opportunity to make that kind of play. And again I’m coming at this who believes that as far as accolades and accomplishments go, Brunson has the edge. I just think making the statement that a deep dive comparison covering EVERYTHING is somehow superficial when just narrowing down the whole comparison to something as ambiguous and hard to measure as “big game player” is pretty ironic
Stats don't lie, Brunson played almost 2 more minutes than Haliburton last season. Making only 4 points less than Brunson. Same Reb. Hali had over 5 more assists.. plain and simple. If Hali gets the 35 mins Brunson gets. He will have more points, or same around 24/5/12 assists.. Brunson won't even average 5 assists and probably 4 rebounds. Lol... How this is even an argument is a joke. Brunson at his age should be better.. but Hali is younger and already better.. and gets better every year..
No one that looks or compares these player's. Ever look at minutes on average played per game.. Hali blows Brunson away in every category if given same minutes. Averages a Double Double of well over 20ish points and will average 12 assists this year with probably 6 rebounds. So good luck to ever see that from Brunson tiny azz.
If you want a pure point guard that’s tyreese .if your looking for a 2 guard type pg that’s Brunson me personally it all depends on how the team is built if you have a 2 Allstar talent players I’ll go with Tyreese if I have 1 allstar I’m going Brunson
Edge should go to Haliburton due to the elite playmaking which, in my opinion, is actually more valuable than elite scoring. Just look at Jokic and the Nuggs
Have you all woke up yet? This isn't even close anymore....Haliburton stats this season: 24.7 PPG/ 4.2 RPG/ 12.5 APG/ On 53/44/93 shooting (68% TS) with only 2.1 turnovers per game and several clutch moments.
People didn’t want to believe me when I said it’s gonna be Haliburton without a question lol. Like I said in this video, Brunson was good last season and has been pretty good this season, but his ceiling was no where near Haliburton and we’re clearly seeing that now
PGs should be great passers and JB doesn’t seem to have that instinct. Plays like a 2 guard and defaults to iso WAY too much. This team USA run is showing that limitation to his game
Brunson slow and steady proven under pressure will take a charge in crucial moments can carry a team. halibut unproven flashey and untested can he carry a team need to see more .
Enjoyed the video....But I don't think this is even close. Halliburton is bigger, younger, already better and has a much higher ceiling. Nobody is picking Brunson over Haliburton to start a team if honest.
To start a team, I agree. I think picking Brunson there is misguided and Haliburton is clearly the best long term. As of now though, there are some things Brunson has accomplished that Haliburton has not, and some things that can do on court that Haliburton can’t. That being said, a lot of that comes down to age. I do agree Hali is by far a better long term prospect
@@hoophierarchy you can't have a negative against Haliburton because he hasn't been to the playoffs yet. That isn't his fault. Brunson has been surrounded by a better team his entire career so far.... Halliburton on the Knicks and they make the Finals last season.
Tyrese hasn’t played in any high pressure games yet at all. Brunsons carried teams multiple times in the playoffs all ready. Brunsons style of play is tailor made for big games. Can get his shot off against anyone anywhere on the court
Face it, Bruson is only here, because stupid politics kept Trae Young off the team,for all you hater's we'll see come The Olympics next year,bet you Bruson don't make the team, because the best point guards are gonna play the competition will be tighter.
lmaooo dude haliburton was home watching brunson cook donovan mitchell a superstar caliber guard and gave jimmy butler and stingy heat defense 40 pieces pls stop riding that haliburton meat pacers were not even close to playoff contention smh casuals fr @@LeeLee-bo3dr
@canniestdoor 🤦 ant had one full-on hero game, but yet he continues to shoot 4 for 11. If Ant is carrying the team, why would he be coming off the bench?? No disrespect to the young bull but his bball IQ is not quite there yet. Also the second best player is actually Reeves, then Halliburton (atm). However, I'd expect Halliburton to be the guy with the most potential in the future in my personal opinion. Ant doesn't really understand how to get to his spots through the flow of the offense so he becomes a ball stopper.
It’s not about age my man is about Health, stability , availability Zion better then both of them but he can’t stay on the court. Judge them by who going to have the longest career god bless 🙏
Brunson everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. You play to win Brunson is a floor general a winner a leader Haliburton is talented but doesn’t effect winning enough a lot of empty calorie stats
Disagree with the argument on empty stats and not affecting winning. The Pacers with Haliburton and without is night and day. They were in the playoffs with him and one of the worst teams in the NBA without him last year. Brunson has an argument for sure but I don’t think the “Haliburton doesn’t affect winning” one is a good one
We Pacers fans supported both PG and Dipo through their injures and return....only to watch both guy's walk. Here in Indy we can at least mention the fact there may be a year very soon where we get to have the MVP in NBA and NFL. We can at least talk about it. Haliburton is gonna be great with our new additions and we are setting up to land a big whale to run next to him in a trade. I mean we could single handedly give an old team like Milwaukee some nice young talent and bring over Yannis.....or what about the king of Philly?? This is gonna be a fun year...and if AR15 plays even ROY level then wow. ....living in a small market we cherish these potential Peyton Manning esc moment's
As a Pacers fan I’d obviously love to see us get Giannis, but I don’t see that as much of a possibility. That being said, our franchise does deserve a star who is willing to stay, haven’t had one since Reggie. Hope Haliburton can be that guy. Also looking forward to watching the Colts this season, probably won’t be good right off the bat but I want to see some flashes from Richardson as early as possible
Look how good the kings became once they traded tyrese and look how shit the pacers were.. he can careless about winning and does not have the ora about him…. Brunson on the other hand does and thats the difference between stars and superstars and brunson is a superstar and he checks off every box.. u ppl have no idea how anything works lol
I respect your opinion in who is better, I just disagree with nearly every statement you made😂. Most of the statements are also easily disproven with even a slight bit of research. It’s like how I mentioned at the beginning of the video, most people’s arguments are purely emotional based on this and don’t really use logic, just pick the guy they like more. So that’s fine, you can do you. It’s also disingenuous to say that anyone who disagrees with you “doesn’t watch Brunson” or “has no idea how anything works”. You think people can’t watch the same thing as you and come to a different conclusion? It would be really impressive if I was able to study, edit, and upload a deep dive analysis on Jalen Brunson’s game without ever watching him play
Bro what the hell u talking bout?? Halliburton averages 10assist a game. Us New Yorkers make ourselves look silly when we overhype our players and find any reason to put them above others. Halliburton is the better point guard for now. He plays better defense and gets almost twice as many assists
wtf r u talking about lol. the kings got better bc they got sabonis and the pacers were in the playoffs till tyrese got hurt. also tyrese was behind fox on the kings
If you take away the playoffs argument, Knicks fans have no case in saying Brunson is better than Hali. If the players switched teams the Knicks would absolutely make the playoffs and possibly go further with Hali. I’m confident the Pacers will make the playoffs this year with Hali will continuing to emerge as one of the best PGs in the league and this debate will be over.
This has to be the dumbest question ever lol jalen brunson is WAY better… in every way possible… not to mention 1 has the IT factor and is just a complete winner.. have u not watched jalen brunson all season and especially in the playoffs??
You gotta stop being so emotional and just evaluate the facts. U making us Knick fans look delusional. Halliburton is definitely the better player right now. And he plays
@@canniestdoor best point guard in the East...if Julius Randle,IQ had their shit together this past season the Knicks would have been the one playing the nuggets...that's who brunson is.
@@itsallgood8206 yes but tyrese doesnt have anyone who ever has their shit together. he doesnt have the luxury of saying his teammates weren’t playing well or not doing what they’re supposed to do because his teammates are not very good yet so i ask for a different argument
@@canniestdoor 2020 -2021 season the Knicks has 41 wins and got eliminated in first round by the hawks. 2021 -2022 season Knicks got only 37 wins didn't make it to the playoffs. 2022-2023 Knicks has 47 wins,past the first round by beating the Cavs..Now can u see the difference with the addition of Brunson? And before that he went to the western confederate finals with the Mavs ... And he won a championship in college also. The boy is a winner....
All of the categories are very close except for the one most important to points...playmaking. That one is not very close. Ty is the best player and by the end of this next season it won't look so close. Pacers go to playoffs, with Ty on the leaderboard for assists and steals. Ty's D will also improve, while Brunson will always be short.
Man if only if was a fifth we’d all be buzzed, New York last time in second round of playoffs was 2012 and last year Brunson carried New York, and was a series away from eastern conference finals as Halliburton watched on TV! If you must know I’m a Mavericks fan, so angry we let him get away!
I like both of them but am so happy the Pacers have Tyrese Halliburton! I want the Pacer and Knicks to both revive their rivalry.
Same here
Bill Simmons after Germany game said Tyrese and Reeves should both be playing over Brunson because they are two of the best players on the team
I do think that they’re better fits in the starting lineup personally
Halliburton is the better playmaker, Brunson the better scorer. I take Brunson to start a team. I just think he has the capability to put a team on his back and carry them. He literally had no help in the playoffs and he still perform at a very high level. Guy has been a proven winner everywhere his been. I think Hali is great but man Jalen has that “IT Factor” that Dog mentality. I don’t see that yet on Hali. But he’s young let’s see what happens.
Haliburton definitely puts his team on his back aswell. He's their leading scorer and they almost lost every game he missed with injury. Plus, imo, being a crazy efficient 20 & 10 guy is way better than a less efficient guy who scores a little more and makes less plays for his teammates.
Those extra assists give might aswell be Haliburton co-scoring and running the whole court with his crazy basketball IQ.
Brunson great asf still tho
@@YokedDrunkardagreed. I think Brunson has to share the ball a lil more with randle maybe he could have points but still a solid take and 2 great players
@@noemamba9590 Randle average more touches than Brunson
@@Reecesavage-Alwayswin yeah I meant it as Brunson is doing all this while getting less touches imagine if he had more
Jalen Brunson is the better, as far as play making his concern I definitely 100% give the edge to halliburton, defensively I will give the edge to haliburton, everything else goes to else goes to Jalen Brunson.
Hali a better shooter too imo. Other than that I agree, which is what I said in the video
@@hoophierarchy Brunson was the better shooter from 3 and from to this year. So I don't see how you came to that conclusion that halyburton was a better shooter
Well like I mention in the video, Brunson has a slightly higher percentage this past season, but shot quite a bit less as far as volume (a raise in volume typically causes a decrease in percentage) for the rest of their careers Haliburton has been a higher percentage shooter. Along with that, Hali has superior range. If Brunson’s volume increases next year while keeping a 40% 3pt percentage, I would give him more credit here, but he just isn’t as good as Haliburton at shooting as of now
@@hoophierarchy Brunson is the better player, because he has shown it with Dallas in the Playoffs, and with the Knicks Spolstra has said as much in regards to Brunson. Even in head to heads Brunson be cooking Haliburton. Last but not least, what has Haliburton done in his career, let alone Indiana in regards to team success? This is why Kerr went with Brunson foe team USA, because he is a better leader than Haliburton. Place Brunson on that same pacers squad, and there's no doubt in my mine, there at least a play in team, put Haliburton on the Knicks, and they don't make the playoffs. Give me Brunson all day
@@yvesleveque128 pacers were basically last place in East till Hali got there. also how the hell do you know he would be cooking hali. basketall is not a one on one sport you know. you can effect the game without the ball. Also Hali is responsible for more points then JB
I feel like a lot of people say Brunson over Haliburton because they’ve seen more of him, this year there won’t be a debate.
I tend to agree. More Knicks fans than Pacers fans. It’s way closer than some of them are acting😂
@@hoophierarchy thanks you for defending my guy. Knicks fans r so toxic sometimes 😂
@@canniestdoorKnick fans are toxic or y’all come with stupid ass takes and then like to play victim after
Wait, in a comparison of two individual players, you are giving the guy with team achievements the points over the guy with individual achievments??? 🤔
Well team achievements do reflect on an individual. They reflect on ability to lead and ability to win. There’s a reason MJ is considered the GOAT, and if he didn’t have 6 championships he wouldn’t be in the discussion
Brunson is a good enough playmaker that I’d def take his finishing, shot creation, and leadership.
Fair
Two NCAA chips, Proven playoff threat, took knicks to second round his first year there,current leader of team USA, must I go on?
He also got bench
and kerr wanted ant edwards to come off the bench so u tellin me haliburton better than ant cuz if u belive that u smokin crack rock my boy
@@Fatboyjo2.1
Keep sleeping
must you go on? probably
Loved this Video man, I personally would go with Tyreese myself
U must be blind lol its not even close.. brunson is better talent wise but he is also better personality wise.. 1 can careless about winning and jokes around all the time and the other has that it factor and is a killer on the court and thats JB.. i mean the kings traded tyreese and look how much better they became and look how shit the pacers were lol
I agree long term, right now it just depends on what kind of player you want. Thanks for watching!
Wat has Hali done? He didn’t even make the playoffs 😂
@@dray02151 All-star not Bruson,Max deal not Bruson
@@LeeLee-bo3dr So we concluding who’s better based on a CONTRACT & POPULARITY ground? 😂 please bro produce better evidence.
Come next season this wont be a conversation lets go pacers
I tend to agree
I can’t believe guys really think Tyree’s is close to Brunson ..did you not here what Steve Kerr said smh this guy has to be the most underated nba player in history
Tyrese isn't close to Brunson. He's much further ahead....Wake up.
drugs are bad, mmmkay?
Commenting for the algorithm. Keep it up!! Also, I want to say Tyrese just to piss off Knicks fans
Appreciate it! People get so upset over this topic for some reason lol
that is a great idea. piss them all off
Brunson's better he is proving to be a franchise-changing talent ;the Knicks were the lottery team the year before. Number two ;he is playoff tested; Knicks could have gone to the finals had Randle and I Q not been injured.
Nope Brunson just got bench
Knicks have made the playoffs with that same roster with out jb. love jb but the knicks would not have made the finals
@@canniestdoor sorry Knicks did make the playoffs with that roster and got bounced in the first round, following year same roster didn’t make playoffs, Brunson carried them to the second round while Halliburton watched on TV.
@@Jsanchez-yh3qb alright man if u give hali that lineup he does the same shit. its not j hali its his pacers team. they are not good yet
@@Jsanchez-yh3qbhalliburton and the pacers were in the sixth seed of the East ahead of the knicks at the time that he got injured, once halliburton got injured they lost 15 out of 16 and dropped
Jalen is a winner ask Luka. He's won at level ask Jay Wright. The Brunson disrespect will never go away I guess
Don’t think it’s disrespectful to compare him to an all star. Brunson is great but it’s a fair comparison
@@hoophierarchy if you just look at the simple concept of WINNING you take Brunson over Haliburton. Haliburton can keep his All Star Pin. I'm surprised he played enough games to qualify for that.🤣
@@brianfishman7760 winning reflect the whole team you know. not just one player
@@canniestdoor 🎯
@@canniestdoortrue Haliburton been good since he been in the league look at his stats from rookie season into now look at jalen stats rookie season into now Haliburton better
James Harden played 37 minutes last season compared to Tyrese 32... Tyrese lost league assists leader by .01... Yet Harden is better?? Gtho.. Hali would have blow Harden away with 35 minutes compared to Hardens 37.. hell even 33 mins would have gave him a better average. Bet. Haliburton is by far the best passer in the league easy...
Brunson all day. Don’t know what you have with TH in the playoffs when it counts. Brunson is proven in the playoffs.
As a Pacer fan I would rather have Ty. All you NY fans down deep agree with me.
Nah we are fine
BS lol@@javaar123
One will be in Hall Of Fame, the other will be loved in New York.
This is a disrespect on brunson he is proven himself in regular season have experienced in the playoffs he controll the pace of the game he show up on all the bigger the game the bigger he play
Disagree. You can argue Brunson is better but it’s by no means disrespectful to compare him to an all star
Haliburton got my vote. He is a better assist guy. He is 4 yrs younger and love to pass the balls and unselfish. He plays decent defense. He is a better shooter too
To win in the NBA you need the top pg and center. History has shown this.
The one proven in the playoffs
That’s a valid argument
Tyrese was hurt. Pacers were in playoff contention before his injury.
It will be Tyrese vs brunson n randle getting his ass bust by obi at pf .
Ehh. Not too fair due to injuries and the different teams.(one was significantly better than the other.(one was in the playoffs and one wasn’t.)
Brunson had one playoff run and got bounced in the second round, and he’s 4 years older than haliburton. Just stop
I got Halliburton all day,but I like Brunson too,just not like Tyrese..💯
This is mostly all superficial comparison. Brunson is clearly the better player when it matters most. He’s a top tier performer under pressure and I’m taking that over anything else every single time.
The critique of it being a superficial comparison while you say something like “he’s just more clutch” is contradictory. I provide statistical evidence in all notable guard categories, which is 100% substantive as opposed to superficial, while saying Brunson is “top tier under pressure” is opinionated. I don’t disagree, I think he’s great under pressure. But what evidence are we using to make that comparison? Can we say that Haliburton is not clutch? He’s hit a number of clutch shots in his career. Brunson has been around longer and has played on better teams so he has more big game opportunity to make that kind of play. And again I’m coming at this who believes that as far as accolades and accomplishments go, Brunson has the edge. I just think making the statement that a deep dive comparison covering EVERYTHING is somehow superficial when just narrowing down the whole comparison to something as ambiguous and hard to measure as “big game player” is pretty ironic
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@@hoophierarchyBrunson is way better than all of these little players u comparing him to.
@@itsallgood8206also worth noting that brunson is nearly 4 years older than Haliburton
@@itsallgood8206 Did you catch the game today?
when i see haliburton give 40 pieces to some of the best defensive teams in the league in the playoffs talk to me cuz i bet it wont happen
Lol this is a big time losing bet but okay
We’ll see. He had 40 vs Miami in the regular season last year. Only difference was it wasn’t in the playoffs. I think he can do it there as well
Stats don't lie, Brunson played almost 2 more minutes than Haliburton last season. Making only 4 points less than Brunson. Same Reb. Hali had over 5 more assists.. plain and simple. If Hali gets the 35 mins Brunson gets. He will have more points, or same around 24/5/12 assists.. Brunson won't even average 5 assists and probably 4 rebounds. Lol... How this is even an argument is a joke. Brunson at his age should be better.. but Hali is younger and already better.. and gets better every year..
No one that looks or compares these player's. Ever look at minutes on average played per game.. Hali blows Brunson away in every category if given same minutes. Averages a Double Double of well over 20ish points and will average 12 assists this year with probably 6 rebounds. So good luck to ever see that from Brunson tiny azz.
Hali clears Brunson
If you want a pure point guard that’s tyreese .if your looking for a 2 guard type pg that’s Brunson me personally it all depends on how the team is built if you have a 2 Allstar talent players I’ll go with Tyreese if I have 1 allstar I’m going Brunson
Wrong. The one category you missed is LEADERSHIP. Once that's factored in, it's not even close.
Edge should go to Haliburton due to the elite playmaking which, in my opinion, is actually more valuable than elite scoring. Just look at Jokic and the Nuggs
So you mean to tell me you think how a halaurton's vision is better than Lebron?
When your talking about shooting you gotta take in mid range right?
Have you all woke up yet? This isn't even close anymore....Haliburton stats this season: 24.7 PPG/ 4.2 RPG/ 12.5 APG/ On 53/44/93 shooting (68% TS) with only 2.1 turnovers per game and several clutch moments.
People didn’t want to believe me when I said it’s gonna be Haliburton without a question lol. Like I said in this video, Brunson was good last season and has been pretty good this season, but his ceiling was no where near Haliburton and we’re clearly seeing that now
@@hoophierarchyHaliburton way better than him last season brunson had like only 4 more points than Haliburton
PGs should be great passers and JB doesn’t seem to have that instinct. Plays like a 2 guard and defaults to iso WAY too much. This team USA run is showing that limitation to his game
Brunson slow and steady proven under pressure will take a charge in crucial moments can carry a team. halibut unproven flashey and untested can he carry a team need to see more .
I can agree he’s more untested than Brunson
Enjoyed the video....But I don't think this is even close. Halliburton is bigger, younger, already better and has a much higher ceiling. Nobody is picking Brunson over Haliburton to start a team if honest.
To start a team, I agree. I think picking Brunson there is misguided and Haliburton is clearly the best long term. As of now though, there are some things Brunson has accomplished that Haliburton has not, and some things that can do on court that Haliburton can’t. That being said, a lot of that comes down to age. I do agree Hali is by far a better long term prospect
@@hoophierarchy you can't have a negative against Haliburton because he hasn't been to the playoffs yet. That isn't his fault. Brunson has been surrounded by a better team his entire career so far.... Halliburton on the Knicks and they make the Finals last season.
@@Indy46237no they don’t 😂 stop spreading nonsense
Stupid take
@@dkarmusic5424 Did you catch the game today? 😉
Tyrese hasn’t played in any high pressure games yet at all. Brunsons carried teams multiple times in the playoffs all ready. Brunsons style of play is tailor made for big games. Can get his shot off against anyone anywhere on the court
Face it, Bruson is only here, because stupid politics kept Trae Young off the team,for all you hater's we'll see come The Olympics next year,bet you Bruson don't make the team, because the best point guards are gonna play the competition will be tighter.
lmaooo dude haliburton was home watching brunson cook donovan mitchell a superstar caliber guard and gave jimmy butler and stingy heat defense 40 pieces pls stop riding that haliburton meat pacers were not even close to playoff contention smh casuals fr
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Tyrese Haliburton without a doubt
Great vid can we get a Ant vs Shai or Bam vs JJJ
Yeah certainly would consider doing one on them. Good ideas. Thanks for the support!
Very good breakdown brother. Loved it.
Appreciate it!
Rj vs Herro
Good idea, have to consider doing that one in the future. Thanks for watching!
i can respect that view
Now JB leading team USA.
bro what how is jb leading them
@canniestdoor Watch the full games, not just highlights.
@@Reecesavage-Alwayswin ant is carrying their asses
@canniestdoor 🤦 ant had one full-on hero game, but yet he continues to shoot 4 for 11. If Ant is carrying the team, why would he be coming off the bench?? No disrespect to the young bull but his bball IQ is not quite there yet. Also the second best player is actually Reeves, then Halliburton (atm). However, I'd expect Halliburton to be the guy with the most potential in the future in my personal opinion. Ant doesn't really understand how to get to his spots through the flow of the offense so he becomes a ball stopper.
@@Reecesavage-Alwayswin ant was a starter for every single game what do u mean
Brunson=LEADERSHIP!! It matters especially in pressure situations
You seemed biased towards Haliburton tbh
How so?
You are correct sir
It’s not about age my man is about Health, stability , availability Zion better then both of them but he can’t stay on the court. Judge them by who going to have the longest career god bless 🙏
Maxey
Nah Tyrese is way way better
Correct. He was arguably better when I made this video, now it’s just obvious
That’s crazy
Nice and fair assessment
Appreciate it!
Brunson is a go to player he'll put you in a spin cycle. Ask Luka who's better.
Brunson everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. You play to win Brunson is a floor general a winner a leader Haliburton is talented but doesn’t effect winning enough a lot of empty calorie stats
Disagree with the argument on empty stats and not affecting winning. The Pacers with Haliburton and without is night and day. They were in the playoffs with him and one of the worst teams in the NBA without him last year. Brunson has an argument for sure but I don’t think the “Haliburton doesn’t affect winning” one is a good one
@@hoophierarchy fair play man this is some healthy discourse you know hoops my boy I’m just biased if he played for the Knicks I’d agree 😂
@@nateyella Totally fair. Both guys are great and don't think either team is disappointed in who they have 😂
Brunson is way better he's proven in the playoffs
He just got bench
We Pacers fans supported both PG and Dipo through their injures and return....only to watch both guy's walk.
Here in Indy we can at least mention the fact there may be a year very soon where we get to have the MVP in NBA and NFL. We can at least talk about it. Haliburton is gonna be great with our new additions and we are setting up to land a big whale to run next to him in a trade.
I mean we could single handedly give an old team like Milwaukee some nice young talent and bring over Yannis.....or what about the king of Philly??
This is gonna be a fun year...and if AR15 plays even ROY level then wow. ....living in a small market we cherish these potential Peyton Manning esc moment's
As a Pacers fan I’d obviously love to see us get Giannis, but I don’t see that as much of a possibility. That being said, our franchise does deserve a star who is willing to stay, haven’t had one since Reggie. Hope Haliburton can be that guy. Also looking forward to watching the Colts this season, probably won’t be good right off the bat but I want to see some flashes from Richardson as early as possible
You were totally off on the shot creation my guy. Jalen Brunson should have been the pic there, and it's not even close
He was
@@hoophierarchy Dude clearly has comprehension problems or he is trolling.
Halliburton is the better pg until Brunson gets his assist up to at least 8per game
A comparison series would be great
Have another comparison coming Saturday
Haliburton is still ascending, but we all kind of know what Brunson is. Both are great players, but Brunson is not a first option guy like Tyrese.
Although I think Halliburton is slightly better pg.. Halliburton doesn’t have anybody on his team to take the ball out of his hands
@@pattycakes1439 this year might be interesting, they seem to have picked up a few more people to help do that.
@@dariusdina8561 Yeah Halliburton will have a few more options this year. They may make the play in tournament
Haliburton is literally not a first option because he's not a scorer he prefers to pass the ball. Like a younger worse defending Lonzo Ball.
@@khalilsmalling5884 lol that is the worst take I’ve heard in a while! You obviously haven’t seen him play 😅
Tyrese got better defense but Jalen gets it done when the lights shine brightest
You buggin brunson iis better at shooting and he way more clutch
Look how good the kings became once they traded tyrese and look how shit the pacers were.. he can careless about winning and does not have the ora about him…. Brunson on the other hand does and thats the difference between stars and superstars and brunson is a superstar and he checks off every box.. u ppl have no idea how anything works lol
I respect your opinion in who is better, I just disagree with nearly every statement you made😂. Most of the statements are also easily disproven with even a slight bit of research. It’s like how I mentioned at the beginning of the video, most people’s arguments are purely emotional based on this and don’t really use logic, just pick the guy they like more. So that’s fine, you can do you. It’s also disingenuous to say that anyone who disagrees with you “doesn’t watch Brunson” or “has no idea how anything works”. You think people can’t watch the same thing as you and come to a different conclusion? It would be really impressive if I was able to study, edit, and upload a deep dive analysis on Jalen Brunson’s game without ever watching him play
Bro what the hell u talking bout?? Halliburton averages 10assist a game. Us New Yorkers make ourselves look silly when we overhype our players and find any reason to put them above others. Halliburton is the better point guard for now. He plays better defense and gets almost twice as many assists
wtf r u talking about lol. the kings got better bc they got sabonis and the pacers were in the playoffs till tyrese got hurt. also tyrese was behind fox on the kings
@@pattycakes1439 i appreciate a New Yorker who does not say crazy stuff like exhibit a up there
If you take away the playoffs argument, Knicks fans have no case in saying Brunson is better than Hali. If the players switched teams the Knicks would absolutely make the playoffs and possibly go further with Hali. I’m confident the Pacers will make the playoffs this year with Hali will continuing to emerge as one of the best PGs in the league and this debate will be over.
So we have to take away things to boost another player your argument fell flat once you did that
This has to be the dumbest question ever lol jalen brunson is WAY better… in every way possible… not to mention 1 has the IT factor and is just a complete winner.. have u not watched jalen brunson all season and especially in the playoffs??
Found the emotional Knicks fan 👍
You gotta stop being so emotional and just evaluate the facts. U making us Knick fans look delusional. Halliburton is definitely the better player right now. And he plays
Playmaking, shooting, and youth goes to Haliburton
the playoffs is an unfair comparison. maybe hali turns into mj in the playoffs. u cant compare it
Halliburton didn’t play in ANY important games🤣
This isn't the who played in the most important game contest. This is who is the better player and it's Tyrese Haliburton.
Brunson is way better ...
There’s definitely a debate to be had, but Brunson has an argument to be better
why
@@canniestdoor best point guard in the East...if Julius Randle,IQ had their shit together this past season the Knicks would have been the one playing the nuggets...that's who brunson is.
@@itsallgood8206 yes but tyrese doesnt have anyone who ever has their shit together. he doesnt have the luxury of saying his teammates weren’t playing well or not doing what they’re supposed to do because his teammates are not very good yet so i ask for a different argument
@@canniestdoor 2020 -2021 season the Knicks has 41 wins and got eliminated in first round by the hawks.
2021 -2022 season Knicks got only 37 wins didn't make it to the playoffs.
2022-2023 Knicks has 47 wins,past the first round by beating the Cavs..Now can u see the difference with the addition of Brunson?
And before that he went to the western confederate finals with the Mavs ...
And he won a championship in college also.
The boy is a winner....
You're way off my guy
What part of the analysis do you disagree with?
@@hoophierarchy😮