Thanks for replying back.I'm very impressed. You must be handy with your hands. I was thinking of building one out of a Toyota Land-Cruiser. I will probably have to have 4WD as I live in Ireland and that explains that. It's a great design and you should be proud of yourself
@Goodash21 . Nice to read your comments. This type of side wrapping worked very well. You might have noticed my movie using Baletite film in the baler in place of net. This is the ultimate way to make baled silage. The silage is much better protected and if punctures occur virtually nothing happens as far as mould goes.
I appreciate your comments. Also, the machine is 4WD. A must here as well. The drive end I built in 1993, and the wrapper part I built at that time was a table wrapper. About 9 or 10 years ago I built the twin satellite unit, to achieve greater speed, and accuracy of wrapping.
Really great work. I myself am from Denmark. Our family owns a smallholding where I together with my father make a couple of hundred round bales a year. My father has always been perplexed as to why no-one has yet invented a bale wrapper that could wrap sideways. Both as a way of saving plastic but also as you say because small holes can ruin a whole bale. Our worst concerns are rooks which are very prevalent in Denmark. They will gather in matter of hours and punch holes in the bales if we
It is completely self produced. Front wheel drive Toyota diesel turned north south running drive shafts to Ford Sierra diffs front and rear. Front suspension made from parts from three different types of cars, Chrysler torsion bars for the springs etc. I built the TS wrapper unit about 8 years ago. Firstly I had made a table wrapper on the rear. It wrapped for about 7 years, so front end now 15 years in use.
To build the wrapper unit I spent quite some time on the design and drawing plans. The front end which you drive, I built from scratch without plans using box steel for the chassis and just carried on from there. Engine is Toyota diesel, trans is auto, suspension is a hybrid of various bits, torsion bars for springs. Rear has no suspension. Machine pivots lateraly in the centre to allow contour following. It's a "one of" machine, ALL components produced in my workshop.
I don"t know what you mean, to counter the bale weight when wrapping. I built the machine sixteen years ago, then it was a " table wrapper " . Seven years ago I built the twin satellite unit for it. The idea to build it was the only way to get a machine like this. One which could do what I required. Much cheaper too.
Here we have some problems with cats climbing up bales. You can get a lot of mould when air gets in from even small claw holes. This side wrap presses all wrap tight against the bale so air can not get in even if bales become holed. IT WORKS !!!
Hello, gearbox is the Aisin autotrans from the front wheel drive 2C Toyota. Engine and trans placed north south with driveshafts to front and rear diffs replacing the original axles. Center diff is welded. There is a torque limiting slip clutch on rear driveshaft to prevent wind up. The series of two diffs in the system means gearing is low but the large 15inch tyres restores it to give a more than respectable road speed.
That is a great way of working..... all you need is to bring the bales close to the storage area and this machine wraps & stacks - such a simple idea but utterly brilliant!!! How do you counter the weight of a bale on the wrapping table? Where did you come up with the idea to build it?
It presses the balewrap tight onto the surface of the bale, so that if the bale becomes punctured [ eg. from cats climbing on bales ] air can't get in. I seldom use that function now since I modified my baler to use Baletite plastic film in place of net. Baletite bales are in a different league altogether.
This self-propelled wrapper is a great idea. I have been thinking of one for years but never came around to it. Have you any information on the building of it?What is the jeep(make)?Thanks
Nothing McHale in there. Hyd cylinders, stretchers etc. all made on my lathe. You are right, farmer brings bales to wrapper. Direct into loading arm is faster than the row of bales option. It can wrap and stack faster than the bales can be shifted by farmer. Sorry, I don't have more suitable video at present.
Hello. I’m very curious about the extra film roll and pre-stretcher. Is the pre-stretcher driven? How does the cutting work? Is it something that that you bought or have you made it yourself?
Hello. The whole system I built myself. [ Including the actual machine ] I used the extra wrap feature in 2007 and 2008 before I modified the baler to use film in place of net. The unit is moved hydraulically in and out. The stretcher is not powered, same as balewrapper stretchers. 70% stretch. The cutting is by three small blades that operate like windscreen wipers and driven by a wiper motor. The idea is to make three holes in the film and let the tension tear the film off, leaving the tail long enough to be caught by the bale at next introduction. The system is controlled by a small PLC and automatically followed the wrap cycle. It worked really well . Prevented mould from small holes like birds or cat claws by pressing film tight on bale so air did not enter from holes. Did have to use a bit of spray on glue to prevent tail unravelling. Operator normally applied glue to film just before cut. My new CF155XC [ ua-cam.com/users/edit?o=U&video_id=9LDVt8-nAAs ] has made the whole wrapper machine redundant. Was working from 1993 till 2016.
RobertFolkerts Thanks, for the info. My goal is to do something like that on my McHale 998. But I would like to apply the extra stretch film at the same time as the regular wrapping process. I will get a cross-wrap, save som stretch film and hopefully get more capacity. Do you have any good input? Thanks,
By applying after wrapping I was able to get the film to start automatically because it would cling to the prior wrap. Also in my case the mechanism would have clashed with the wrapper arms. You will need to be quite creative to produce a system which will introduce the film and ensure it goes with the bale every time and not follow the wrapper rollers. Also, does your bale do enough rotations to make it worthwhile? And would you use a wider film or two rolls side by side to cover the length of the bale. I guess it's squares?
RobertFolkerts My idea is to apply the film between the wrapper rollers. One film roll applied in each pair of rollers. I could mount the pre-stretcher outside the main frame and let the film in towards the bale above the tires. And here is where the tricky part comes. To introduce it to the bale. The bale rotates at least two hole turns so that would be enough I think.
are not fast enough collecting the bales from the fields and putting nets over them. But also cat claws are really harmfull to the sides of the bales where the layer is thin.
Dont want to wrap 200 bales.... Takes forever with this slow setup🤣🤣 Buy a Mchale 991 Highspeed or a Orbital 🤦♂️ or the Krone.... then you are good to go.....
Ah huh, You again. Actually haven't used that function since 2008. In 2009 I started using batetite film on film. I have well over 110,000 film on film bales now. Not too bad for home made mods to run film aye! 40,000 now with my Revolution film system in the CF155XC.
Thanks for replying back.I'm very impressed. You must be handy with your hands. I was thinking of building one out of a Toyota Land-Cruiser. I will probably have to have 4WD as I live in Ireland and that explains that. It's a great design and you should be proud of yourself
@Goodash21 . Nice to read your comments. This type of side wrapping worked very well. You might have noticed my movie using Baletite film in the baler in place of net. This is the ultimate way to make baled silage. The silage is much better protected and if punctures occur virtually nothing happens as far as mould goes.
I appreciate your comments. Also, the machine is 4WD. A must here as well. The drive end I built in 1993, and the wrapper part I built at that time was a table wrapper. About 9 or 10 years ago I built the twin satellite unit, to achieve greater speed, and accuracy of wrapping.
Really great work. I myself am from Denmark. Our family owns a smallholding where I together with my father make a couple of hundred round bales a year. My father has always been perplexed as to why no-one has yet invented a bale wrapper that could wrap sideways. Both as a way of saving plastic but also as you say because small holes can ruin a whole bale. Our worst concerns are rooks which are very prevalent in Denmark. They will gather in matter of hours and punch holes in the bales if we
It is completely self produced. Front wheel drive Toyota diesel turned north south running drive shafts to Ford Sierra diffs front and rear. Front suspension made from parts from three different types of cars, Chrysler torsion bars for the springs etc. I built the TS wrapper unit about 8 years ago. Firstly I had made a table wrapper on the rear. It wrapped for about 7 years, so front end now 15 years in use.
Heel spectaculair om te zien Robert, en leuk K. zo bezig te zien. Bye Mr. Einstein!
Luuk en Gerdina
To build the wrapper unit I spent quite some time on the design and drawing plans. The front end which you drive, I built from scratch without plans using box steel for the chassis and just carried on from there. Engine is Toyota diesel, trans is auto, suspension is a hybrid of various bits, torsion bars for springs. Rear has no suspension. Machine pivots lateraly in the centre to allow contour following. It's a "one of" machine, ALL components produced in my workshop.
I don"t know what you mean, to counter the bale weight when wrapping. I built the machine sixteen years ago, then it was a " table wrapper " . Seven years ago I built the twin satellite unit for it. The idea to build it was the only way to get a machine like this. One which could do what I required. Much cheaper too.
Here we have some problems with cats climbing up bales. You can get a lot of mould when air gets in from even small claw holes. This side wrap presses all wrap tight against the bale so air can not get in even if bales become holed. IT WORKS !!!
Hello, gearbox is the Aisin autotrans from the front wheel drive 2C Toyota. Engine and trans placed north south with driveshafts to front and rear diffs replacing the original axles. Center diff is welded. There is a torque limiting slip clutch on rear driveshaft to prevent wind up. The series of two diffs in the system means gearing is low but the large 15inch tyres restores it to give a more than respectable road speed.
That is a great way of working..... all you need is to bring the bales close to the storage area and this machine wraps & stacks - such a simple idea but utterly brilliant!!! How do you counter the weight of a bale on the wrapping table? Where did you come up with the idea to build it?
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It presses the balewrap tight onto the surface of the bale, so that if the bale becomes punctured [ eg. from cats climbing on bales ] air can't get in. I seldom use that function now since I modified my baler to use Baletite plastic film in place of net. Baletite bales are in a different league altogether.
This self-propelled wrapper is a great idea. I have been thinking of one for years but never came around to it. Have you any information on the building of it?What is the jeep(make)?Thanks
nice wraper and what is the point of the bit of wrap going round the midle
Nothing McHale in there. Hyd cylinders, stretchers etc. all made on my lathe. You are right, farmer brings bales to wrapper. Direct into loading arm is faster than the row of bales option. It can wrap and stack faster than the bales can be shifted by farmer. Sorry, I don't have more suitable video at present.
@edzyx1994 . All automatic control of wrapping functions with programmed electronic controllers.
Thanks. Yes I see.
Hello again. I'm wondering what gearbox you used for the wrapper???
Hello. I’m very curious about the extra film roll and pre-stretcher. Is the pre-stretcher driven? How does the cutting work? Is it something that that you bought or have you made it yourself?
Hello. The whole system I built myself. [ Including the actual machine ] I used the extra wrap feature in 2007 and 2008 before I modified the baler to use film in place of net. The unit is moved hydraulically in and out. The stretcher is not powered, same as balewrapper stretchers. 70% stretch. The cutting is by three small blades that operate like windscreen wipers and driven by a wiper motor. The idea is to make three holes in the film and let the tension tear the film off, leaving the tail long enough to be caught by the bale at next introduction. The system is controlled by a small PLC and automatically followed the wrap cycle. It worked really well . Prevented mould from small holes like birds or cat claws by pressing film tight on bale so air did not enter from holes. Did have to use a bit of spray on glue to prevent tail unravelling. Operator normally applied glue to film just before cut.
My new CF155XC [ ua-cam.com/users/edit?o=U&video_id=9LDVt8-nAAs ] has made the whole wrapper machine redundant. Was working from 1993 till 2016.
RobertFolkerts
Thanks, for the info.
My goal is to do something like that on my McHale 998. But I would like to apply the extra stretch film at the same time as the regular wrapping process.
I will get a cross-wrap, save som stretch film and hopefully get more capacity. Do you have any good input?
Thanks,
By applying after wrapping I was able to get the film to start automatically because it would cling to the prior wrap. Also in my case the mechanism would have clashed with the wrapper arms. You will need to be quite creative to produce a system which will introduce the film and ensure it goes with the bale every time and not follow the wrapper rollers. Also, does your bale do enough rotations to make it worthwhile? And would you use a wider film or two rolls side by side to cover the length of the bale. I guess it's squares?
RobertFolkerts
My idea is to apply the film between the wrapper rollers. One film roll applied in each pair of rollers. I could mount the pre-stretcher outside the main frame and let the film in towards the bale above the tires. And here is where the tricky part comes. To introduce it to the bale.
The bale rotates at least two hole turns so that would be enough I think.
tobajas85
That will be the tricky part for sure! I wish you well.
Thanks for replying back
@menel937 . If you mean, is it legal to drive on the road? Yes it is.
are not fast enough collecting the bales from the fields and putting nets over them. But also cat claws are really harmfull to the sides of the bales where the layer is thin.
What is this world coming to
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Dont want to wrap 200 bales....
Takes forever with this slow setup🤣🤣
Buy a Mchale 991 Highspeed or a Orbital 🤦♂️ or the Krone.... then you are good to go.....
Ah huh,
You again. Actually haven't used that function since 2008. In 2009 I started using batetite film on film. I have well over 110,000 film on film bales now. Not too bad for home made mods to run film aye! 40,000 now with my Revolution film system in the CF155XC.
@@RobertFolkerts
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