Talking with Pokimane | Dr. K Interviews
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00:00 intro
2:37 Dr. K: what's wrong with crying? Pokimane's nervousness about opening-up
10:05 Feeling things not supposed to feel, problem-solving brain
22:15 Twisting things as ammo, perfectionism, being perfect
39:10 Mourning, feeling sad for herself
58:30 "being a better you", childhood stories, immigrant parents
1:22:50 NPC parents
1:38:30 Jaded-ness, resentment, apologies, Indian story
2:19:10 "Dark side of Pokimane," playing a rigged game
2:38:30 closing thoughts, recap
2:41:45 Meditation
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I think she needs a vacation...
"Is there anything you want to talk about?"
*Immediately starts crying.*
I feel that.
Hapened to me on my first session of therapy actually lmao so yea I felt that as well.
FUCKING SAAAAMEEEE
Time stamp?
I feel that so much. It's just nice finally getting to talk to someone who wants to help you
I think we all who went to therapy for the first time did this kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
"Can I think for a second" - This should be done more often, I respect this guy a lot.
actualy can you think for another second?
A really great approach by a therapist. It shows that Poki has the option of doing the same. Its a difficult seed to plant on the therapists part. Bravo Doc
@@shanecrawford3347 Can I think about what to think about for a second?
@@Suureush nah, I will count down from 10 and when I get to zero you must state whatever you've come up with
@@SlanglieBeatz you mean he has 10 seconds to begin thinking about thinking then if you wanted hypothetically you could give him 10 more seconds to think and then to state what he was thinking about if that's a rule you want
When she said “I feel really sad for myself” almost as if she was confused and it was a bizarre thing to feel, I felt that. Mourning the death of your inner child and the trauma they experienced, early 20’s are a trip.
fuckkkk yeah
Mid to late are worse
this doesnt make sense your inner child isnt dead if you're still breathing. They are a child, they are just hiding and you're probably scaring the poor thing. It's called nurturing for a reason,.
@@silver2zilver this is a thought i had today and honestly idk if it's dead or hiding. Ig you can't say it's dead because then there's no hope. Probably weakened or hiding, who knows man this shit's kinda very complicated
@@amerstain In psychoanalytics it's referred to as the "Shadow". It's the dark side of us that doesn't follow the rules. Suppressing that side of you will only result in it growing and festering until you self sabotage and it all comes out. You have to integrate it into your being and accept it for what it is without judgement. Think of the inner child as one of Dr. K's darker guests (abuser, incel, narcissist). They're controlled by their Shadow because they don't understand it. When you can see your inner child as a valuable important person within you, that has needs too, you can find it easy to treat it with compassion and set healthy boundaries with it. An example would be the hero in a story who has a deep anger and hate for the villain who killed his father and intends to hurt others. The hero has a part of him that enjoys violence. Instead of crushing that side of him he allows the monster to feed when it is appropriate. The boundary he sets is "only when someone is actively trying to cause harm, the beast may come out and feed." In some stories the hero will be too brutal, recognize it and set another boundary. Kind of like portion size management of what the beast may eat. That is all healthy. Beating down your child even when it's actions would be appropriate is not healthy. Not standing up for yourself when someone crosses a healthy boundary is not healthy. So we see people who suppress the child become weak and scared (how your inner child feels when you tyrannize them), people who are possessed by the child (no healthy boundaries set gives the child free reign), and people who integrate the child (recognize what the child wants, say no when it's not appropriate, gives the child outlets and situations where they can let loose, and reigns them in before they go to far.)
Having a person like Dr. K just makes twitch look less horrible than it is. Hes like a saviour.
He should clean up Twitter too. That would be a massive job
@@Guus115 honestly maybe a little too much for him lol, twitter is a menace
@@Guus115 Twitter is unsalable my dude. Let that shit sink
Let's not push too much preassure on him
bro Twitter can't be fixed
Imagine Dr.K talking with tyler1
Under all that rage i think that Tyler is smart
@@respectedmastermind I dont know man, he is a good person, and incredibly good at games for sure, but I dont think he is that smart. He is still machist AF and cares a lot about not crying and being a "MAN". Maybe he is just ignorant tho.
@@Omehatl i only watched some clips and the off league stuff... It would be interesting for sure
@@Omehatl he used to be a 4.0 cpu science major
Tyler 1 is a character Tyler is a person he would be different off stream
this man is going to talk with every otv member at one point in time
otto wibe we need the Michael Reeves ep
@@cobi421 can't wait
Because otv is a house of millennials that livestream their entire lives, they're all just people like us and have their issues
"how does that make you feel"
michael: not great, turtles gotta die man
"The taming of Michael Reeves"
My first therapy session went a bit like hers.
Dr: hello.
Me: starts sobbing
😂
Sometimes we just have so much built up inside, and u finally have a chance to spill how u feel and what u been thru
I just had my first eval by a psychologist and didn't cry once! Things are loonking up!
I had a feeling that the same think would happen to me, so I immediatly localized the tissues. Great help about 45 seconds later.XD
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I think her cry was mostly because someone actually wanted to listen to what she has to say and gave her their time to do it. It can get emotional.
v true
I think it was because she was overwhelmed when thinking about her emotions. Since she’s a problem, solver, her mind started going and didn’t stop.
Yeah. Dr. K was probably the first person to actually be interested in her feelings in a productive way. Which is not surprising
It's because she's a woman, women are emotional.
@@akitadakid6326 the way you worded that really sounded like you said "she's a problem" 😂
Anyways, I think you're right
'You gotta start treating your family members like party members and not NPCs.' That hit me like a brick.
@Khaffit truuuuuuuuuue
@Khaffit haha i thought of that exactly when i heard dr k say that. Talking to my parents like an NPC did so much wonders for me and prevented a lot of confrontation that i dont think i want to stop doing it.
yeah i really should stop quicksaving and murdering my whole family over and over again
starinthroughmyrearview But how else will I get my level up for the big raid
@@FryedPidgey idk kill people other than your family, try closest friends
It's honestly crazy to be doing this on a public live stream. That's like next level courage.
i cant even do it with my close up people imagine doing it in front of thousands
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@@ybt1995 if you can't do that with your close up people. they're really not "close up" people. think again.
@@catedoge3206 close are mainly my family which we love each other but we never talk about serious stuff basically as Doc K said as "NPCs"
@@ybt1995 I recommend going to a psychiatrist or a support group. In there, you can freely talk about things without getting judged. :D
I'm glad i got off the "shitting on pokimane for no reason" wave. Shes my age, shes dealing with nearly everything im dealing with in some capacity and more, and it just made me realize how dehumanizing I was to her just because shes a streamer and I saw her as such. Fuck man i have so much to work on.
nah she has done some shit things. She has to grow from them instead of acting like they dont exist. Also dr. k said it best she needs to start being imane more and not poki.
@@bungodunko4123 To be honest, we all make mistakes. I don't particularly like her, but its important to note that all her faults like many other content creators are publicized. What I have learned to accept is that there is a reason for everything, even the mistakes that you make. It is important to understand peoples motivation to do things. Everyone knows the shit things they have done in our lives.
@@akazi1582 Yea I agree im probably biased cause I watched her apology video that she made a bit back and take that context into account. One thing I think would help her is being more candid with everyone around her. Like dr k said we know poki but dont really know much about imane.
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i'm impressed with how dr K has created a youtube series that's essentially public therapy sessions with famous youtubers
That's the whole concept I suppose. He wants to 'AOE'. So the whole idea behind the public sessions is so you, as viewer, can have resonance with some of the problems he talks about with famous youtubers/streamers, and as a result learn from them and apply it on your own live.
@@0Sicarii0 AOE?
@@Omnihilo Area of effect. So instead of going single target he is fixing multiple peoples fucked up childhoods while only running his jedi mind tricks on one person at a time
@@VIpown3d Oooh, okay. Cool, thanks for the explanation!
@@Omnihilo No problem mate
poki: i feel bad for kids these days
dr k: yeah theyre fucked lololol
had me dying bruv
speaking from my point of view since i aint the oldest in the world i disagree with that
Im not a merican or english so i dont know if kids there just are a bit stupid (sorry if generalyzing) but in my situation i think ill end up fine since im already learning what i want to do full time on my life
@@river7591 if you have not experienced high school/university, you don't really have the ethos to claim that.
Modern academia is a goddamn cesspool
Be thankful that you don't live in US, the place where student debt torments the living hell out of students.
You clearly have no idea about the hidden competition and market in University application processes.
Enjoy life while you can.
(And don't take IB no matter what. AP is way better adademically and for your mental health.)
Your uni degree will most likely end up unless if it's IT/Business/Medical/Law related.
@@d3ly746 there are other opportunities to chase without having to start your life in a pool of debt because of uni. Either way you it is going to require effort to get there. Playing a victim isn’t going to help anyone succeed. Sure you can sit and complain about the world around you but that’s like sitting in a rocking chair. Your doing something but you are going no where. Instead of worrying about it, do something about it. Just a few thought drops. Dream large folks.
@@d3ly746 as an indian where there's a whole mafia for coaching and entrance preparation and an education system designed to create bots ,
i think i can relate to some degrees
time stamp?
when he hit her with the "do you want to be poki or do you want to be imane" thing i felt the strings of reality bend around me
the time he took with that is amazing, it shows that he really cares and dont want to make her feel bad.
Imagine if her name was just “pok” lmaooooo
lol.. what are the strings of reality
@@MOGE_ ernie ball hybrid slinky
When you’ve been on the Internet in a certain way, in forms where you’re known as a username, you have different personas of yourself that sometimes form. Sometimes I want to be me, the offline me. But sometimes I’m just the online me.
Absolutely brilliant conversation, so many insights + amazing vibes. Thanks so much for sharing you guys!
I appreciate you linking this in your emails 💪 I never would’ve seen this otherwise
Fr
"streaming for 6-7 years"
"I'm 23"
She's been streaming since she was 16-17????
I have immense respect for anyone that can put themselves out there and deal with this kind of responsibility staring at that age
Honestly, it's not that young. Most people that make it big start in their mid to late teens because we live in a teen obsessed world. Some big youtubers even started at 12/13.
@@meshshirtburgundypants5244 I said it was a great amount of responsibility, not necessarily that she handled it well. Like how being the leader of a country is a great responsibility, even though some people who have those positions don’t handle it very well. Poki’s past mistakes also don’t reduce my respect for her at all, everyone makes mistakes when they’re starting out in new territory, and you really can’t hold a teenager’s words against them 5 years later.
@starchannel123 not all of them dealt with internet mobs tho. And a lot who did, are no longer online.
When he said “You gotta treat your family like party members not NPC’s” that shit hit fr
so talk shit and do nothing?
iphoneusdsd lmao
@@iphoneusdsd normally, yes
so i need to flame my family??
time stamp?????
my dude tearing people minds apart while drinking a beer... my hero
I wish this was reddit where I could pay to award you, jeez, agreed lol
He is Lord
@@ripkin31 just say you award this with gold and give a agold on reddit to someone random so the karma will be taken away
no need to "hold my beer"
maybe more like reverse engineering
35:26
Poki: i'm so worried about teens and pre-teens during this day and age.
Dr. K: Yeah they're fucked... and it's gonna get worse
gen z (and everyone younger): 👁👄👁
Gen z but i agree HAHAHA
Well, since marketing and corporations basically control adult lives and shape teen and preteen lives, he's absolutely right.
Man I’ve thought about this and for a while. I’ve thought that my parents are lucky they got to live in a time without the technology of today. It’s bad because it’s so new and huge. Like Daily Dose said we don’t know the result of growing up with so much screen time usage.
@@BygoneT don't forget gov. and banking in that messed up soup.
im gen z and im 20 bro, i think this only applies to younger gen z and gen alpha
I won’t lie when I say I had a pretty negative image of Pokimane before watching this. Many of my friends and content creators I watched talked about shady things she has done and it made me lose trust for her. However, after watching this video, I started to understand why those rumors came about and why she really isn’t much different from all of us. Getting her heartfelt perspective on her position in this community really helped me see that human side of her. That content creators aren’t the culmination of rumors and drama. This was a good experience.
I'm not gonna pretend I'm an expert, I'm not a fan of hers, never made the effort of watching her streams or donating.
I've had an inkling that she (along with other streamers) regret a lot of the things that defined their success. But they can't let it go, or a least be strong enough to stop it from defining them.
I respect her for owning up to her guilt. I wish her and everyone like her the best Min Max of the game of life.
All people ever do is talk about the negative things Poki has or even been rumoured to have done as if she's never done anything right. Its gotten to the point where almost everyone does it and its horrible and onesided. Looking at it objectively you see that everyone has done stuff wrong in different ways and so just singularly talking about stuff someone's done wrong will make them look like a bad person but its not them.
@@Riku-Leela Theres a saying in my country, do good 99 times out of a hundred - people will remember you for that 1 mistake.
@@Shady36 very true, I do wish people would look at others more objectively though rather than just things they may have done before. Not saying all people are like that, as some have the intelligence to not pin an issue someones made to them as a person.
@@Riku-Leela Or just have a live and let live vibe.
Ever since I saw that etika video of him walking down a street, talking about everything, I have started to be hyper aware of the fact that anyone, literally anyone can be going through so much, and you wouldn't even know it. So please if you're reading this make sure to check up on people, no matter who they are. It could save their life
Seriously. That damn video broke my heart dude. Even before the news broke. Can’t blame the people that saw him that day for not knowing his situation or trying to help him, but I do think about the fact that if even one person had given him a hug that walk he might still be here fighting his way through it. Really miss seeing him hyped and smiling and just being a genuinely good person. RIP man.
I feel the same way. I would've never guessed that Etika, one of the most charismatic and energetic content creators, would have ended his life. Seeing that happen has made me so much more aware of how important mental health is.
RIP Desmond
#JOYCONBOYZ
As I read this all I could think of..... maybe if etika was still alive this man could have helped him. I'm thankful he's here now so at least people don't have to end up like etika and have another chance before it's too late. Such a sad thought but happy and hopeful for some futures that are still lost out there.
Its fucks me a lot that he's gone because at one point I was getting out of a depressive way of thinking through Etika when he was himself.
@Elijah Dunay Shit this actually hits different. I remember getting the notification of that video and after watching it I knew something would happen. A few days passed and I saw that he had killed himself, that really fucked me up for a while, but it also got me aware of myself and others around me. I remembered being in school waiting for Etika's next smash bros reaction, knowing he was gone, shit I can’t describe the feeling. I somewhat saw myself in that Etika video, it felt like a mirror, but it also felt like a magnifying glass. I realized how fragile and important life is, but also how much suffering it entails, this was the same with everyone. I realized everyone has problems. Although I was trying to better myself after this, I never felt the same after my realizations from that video. This current pandemic has basically fucked up my life in some aspects, I know this goes the same for nearly everyone right now, but it’s given me some time to introspect also, a true dilemma. I still can’t fully process that Etika's gone sometimes, it sucks.
And all of a sudden I’m in a never ending spiral of streamers’ full interviews that take up my entire day. Honestly, I don’t mind
I hope you are feeling okay
@@catsnamedfanta Same! I mind though, because that is keeping me distracted from doing the my work job. But that's on me, and if I wasn't watching this, I would probably find something else to distract me away from the work.
Bro same
@@_mayankr mabey you should think about changing jobs so you don't feel the need for distraction. I know circumstances and responsibilities but it's possible and you can do it!
These have been the interviews and conversations I’ve wanted to hear. Emotionally driven and powerful breakthrough speeches. I spend my time listening while doing paperwork and stuff it’s so comforting and puts me in such an open and receptive mood to speaking to others throughout the day!
What I find heartbreaking is that children think they owe their parents anything. Yet, these children did not choose to be born. When I do something to make the lives of my children better, the thought of 'them owing me' does not ever cross my mind.
I know Dr. K and Imane will never read this comment, but I think it's important for people to consider this perspective. And I hope she doesn't get mauled by the online beast. Thank you for sharing your story.
thank you for being so good to your kids. you're setting a good example for them.
Exactly. If anything, parents owe their children because they CHOSE to bring them to this Earth.
Thank you for having that mindset. Unfortunately most other parents just don't seem to think the same way :(
My parents literally asks me if I will take care of them once they're old. Not that I won't take care of them but dem my parents definitely think that I owe them my life.
If I ever become a mum, I want to have your mentality. I feel like that. It's no burden of course, to want to take care of my parents, but there are times when it's limiting, and it can be quite heavy. My dad is very old school, and he sees wrong that daughters-sons go out of their home at 18 to live on their own (I'm from Mexico, so it's not as usual over here). He wants them to take care of their elderly parents. My mum is more liberal.
I'm confused, but will take flight, and hope to make a better income to help them financially... But it's so confusing.
everybody asks who is dr k, but nobody asks how is dr k
Facts
I'll do you one better: Why is Dr. K?
Woah
@@Bossallama holy shit ur a genius
@@Bossallama Ok but this one doesn't really work, Dr. K isn't the hero we deserve but he is the hero twitch needs.
As a gamer and an aspiring psychologist this is essentially a marriage of the things I love.
Dr K is the type of guy I wanna be
Same bro
good way to help ppl
Follow your passions
Be yourself by yourself
same
this was INSANE ... I'm having almost all of the same issues ... thanks for this
It’s the aoe healing !!
@@papilondon1401 maybe Dr. K is Soraka main
Cool to see you here, I love your art.
Almost like we're all humans?
I wasn’t going to watch this but this comment made me want to watch. Someone was able to relate to her and made me wonder if I can. 🙏🏼 ❤️ Thank you.
6:23 she really said "actually, can u think for another second?" 😂😂😂😂😂
omega poggers
poor Iman, I really felt that when she almost immediately started crying not being able to even explain why, that’s such a overwhelming feeling
I wasn't expecting crying 3 minutes in
I love how deep this gets especially with the whole facade people put on to be an entertaining streamer as a career
idk why you care so much about rich streamers who are living well
@@ken-yo2hz being rich doesn't make you happy, it just makes you have one less stress
@@pretsoulz lol my point still stands?
Kakugen nobody gives a fuck
Kakugen am I not allowed to care about the well being of other people just because they’re rich? It’s like saying I shouldn’t feel bad for Kobe Bryant’s family after he died because they’re rich and will never have to work another day in their lives.
God this channel is so great man. When I heard her say "people don't want to hear people like me complain" my heart broke for her...Streamers get put on this pedestal because they are playing videogames and socializing for a living, and it has to be hard to feel this sense of obligation towards feeling great and being happy 24/7. My girlfriend is a nurse and one of the things she struggles with is not ALWAYS feeling like being the "care taker" that she needs to be. Certain jobs come with certain moral and emotional obligations. I always try and remind her that her feels aren't crazy or bad feelings. They are always valid and justified.
Timestamp?
@@tbeycorgan5037 8:48 ish
@@pandak6092 thx
So true. I am a nurse as well and "caregiver role strain" is a real thing for nurses. Nurses are expected to be strong for patients and family members who can't. And I guess people expect streamers to play games or be entertaining or whatever... we don't always feel like we get the opportunity to experience our own emotions.
I hope your girlfriend finds the balance between caring for others and caring for herself. She seems very selfless though :)
CutieBigBooty Thank you! You as well :)
When you became Poki, Imane got left behind - I felt this.
he might've leaned on that a bit much given "shoulds" likely started in childhood and there was no poki until later but it's a convenient placeholder
As father of 3 Daughters I do my best to let them know that as long as they do what makes them happy in life I will proud of them. I don't care if they are rich or poor, CEO's or barn keepers, all professions are admirable, as long as what they are doing is what they truly want to be doing. I don't want them to feel like they need to do anything specific to make me happy, just be themselves and be happy with their choices. I will always be here for them and forever proud of them. I hope that I give them the tools they need to succeed in life not just some given career. Dr. K you are doing fantastic work and thanks to all the people who have come on and spoken to you so openly that takes real courage.
OF?
This is exactly why western society is going down the drain.
"So what's wrong with crying?" - How did this hit so hard? Dr. K has speechcrafting maxed out I swear.
ikr? he asks the most existential question ever without even trying
I mean, socially it's understood that crying is a sign of weakness. Pokimane in the public eye probably wants to hold are her emotions in all the time. Being a fairly physically attractive female based on western standards, she probably gets plenty of creepy guys messaging her and she probably feels she has to hold that in too.
Daniel Dosso
Society itself is weak asf how Tf are they going to see crying as weak lol
I haven’t cried in 4yrs I’m 22today didint celebrate cause of covid and weak family connection
@@danieldosso2455 no public figure can be 100% spontaneous, women even less so. Maybe the only spontaneous public person that can exist while being a woman is Lady Gaga
"My dad passed away a couple of years ago. It's all good. I'm cool with it. He's cool with it. "
jesus
@Nikx24 41:09
Underrated comment lol
@Nikx24 41:09 edit:oh crap sorry I didn’t see someone else already comment the time stamp 😅
I felt that kinda response to I'm sorry so much
Man to think that Poki has been concerned about how people perceive her from out of context things has been a large part of her worries. Idk I think that the "Fed leaks" seem even more manipulative on his end as he would know how much that would hurt her. I honestly feel so bad for her.
fed couldn't have gained anything from those tweets. it's pretty clear that he was the one who got lead on and manipulated, but he also included out of context stuff. i don't like either of them
@@craig7405Aspecially that he knew it is going to get shut down like a week from leaking those files, yes. The thing is he had published a lot of private messages. How "cringy" they are is irrelevant, they are still private. He leaked those documents knowing fully well that the internet won't stay on his side for long. He did it because not only will those messages be visible, but also pokimane and her team would need to publish more of messages from their conversation to provide context :/ ,which is a complete loss of privacy. If my messages got leaked somehow to my friends, i wouldnt care much, but if i had huge public like she has i would care about it much more.
Im not saying she is an angel or sth but saying she manipulated him is a bit of an exaggeration. She made mistakes handling their break up, but who didnt. The problem stands, that these incredibily private stuff that can be resolved privatly, got LeAkEd.
@@michaeel4701 they were never dating, according to her. fed thought they were, which is a direct example of being led on and manipulation.
@@craig7405 I wouldn't say it's direct, theres more into it. He wanted to take another step in their relationship, and she wanted to just stay friends. Their trip to (I dont remember where), can be interpreted as romantic (his point of view) as well as friendly (as she saw it). There is also a possibility that she changed her mind half way through, then the feds point of view would be very accurate. Again, it's not about what mistakes they may or may not have made or how indecisive she was, rather its about whether she manipulated him on purpose. And i dont think she did, i dont think she is as cruel as you think she is.
@@michaeel4701 and from the texts you can see that after she said that she continued to lead him on. she's not a sociopath, but she's not exactly a good samaritan
At 1:15:44 when he starts to tear up at the thought of his daughter being helpless over noodles. Thats what needs to be focused on. Parents are hurt more by being left out than being told the truth because they know when we are hurting but until we tell them what the issue is they don't know how to help and it tears them apart. I love this video so much!
I feel poki, i finally found therapy , i said hello and bursted into tears. There's much deep down in all of us.
i agree. my first therapist session, i couldnt get much out because the second she asked me a question i broke down into tears
@@amandaperez4574 i hope you are doing well :3
Omfg if someone starts sccusing this dude saying simp, i will fuck em up
@@FlyhighLife thank you i am, i hope you too :]
She broke the record. Crying within 4 minutes. Dr K is legendary
Then kaceytron broke that
Like wtf she just started cryig. Lol wut?
3 minutes in she’s already crying 😭
Most Indians are legendary you guys underestimate us a lot :D this guys is like a really good example of good guys around India and what kinda understanding they have about life
She said she'd been crying a lot regardless of the session with Dr. K
Poki really killed this interview, straight up realism, lots to learn here. Which is hard to expect from such a famous streamer.
Facts
Bruh, no giving A plus(probably should be she processing it😂)
dr. k: "you don't need to do anything.... because you are perfect"
me: *uncontrollably sobbing*
I think Fed could benefit a lot from being on here with Dr. K
Edit - Please stop replying this was two months ago, nothing had come out when I first made this comment.
Think he'd be pretty open about his problems considering how open and honest he is, and how much he overshares generally. I'd watch it.
ALOT actually.I dont watch Fed like that so i kinda noticed he looks...sad in the emotional way
@@lukeemanuels1691 he has been looking sad lately probs because of the whole Yuna and Jade and community so it would be nice if he talked with Dr K
Tbh, I think a great candidate aside from Fed would be Xell...now that guy I feel has a lot of internal issues/struggles.
Fed said on stream that he wasn’t ready to talk with Dr. K yet
When she started crying after saying hello.. I felt that
When you said "I felt that", I felt that 🤧😩
@@alexmeyer8133 When you said " When you said ' I felt that' ,I felt that🤧😩 " , I felt that 🤧😩
@@umangbhalla I can relate too *crying face*
umang bhalla when you said "when you said 'when you said i felt that' i felt that🤧😫' i felt that" i felt that 🤧😫
@@umangbhalla When you said "When you said 'When you said "I felt that", I felt that🤧😩', I felt that 🤧😩", I felt that 🤧😩
Dr. K is so damn good at his job, every question he asks is so direct and just directly tackles the problems his patients are experiencing
poki is such a bubbly happy personality and it was really refreshing to see this side of her. it kind of made me remember we are all humans and all dealing with similar things. also alot of the stuff her and dr k talked about was really helpful to me, i always feel like im lost, dont know who i am and cant feel emotions how i should and it was nice to hear "just exist, fuck all the other stuff". alot of great stuff here. thanks for being so open and genuine poki, and dr. k thank you for always sharing this stuff. been a rough long day and been watching dr. k all day and its really helped recenter me.
43:06 I feel like pokimane hit the nail on the head with the line about "numbers don't stop, there is no 'you've done enough'", resonated with me a lot
i mean im not in that situation so no idea but why not just set some goals? after hitting them you can worry about keeping those numbers while trying to do things that make you feel better. ie maybe less streaming, or streaming less popular things etc
no need to aim for the moon after all esp if youre unhappy
@@haitharu after hitting the big numbers there's always gotta be someone better than you. Even if you really become the best of the bests(personally for me) your parents will never acknowledge you
@@haitharu yeah seriously, once my family is all set up I won’t give a fuck about money or success. grinding just to grind is a great way to end up crying after 4 minutes of talking to someone who remotely gives a shit.
I think that's the fastest "can I think for a sec" we had. This one's going to be hard to beat :D
Wtf is this on a public stream? It's private counselling
CJ Cowabunga Yes it is on a public stream.
@@christhebritt2231 it isn't counseling because it's public, it's just talking
@@christhebritt2231 why are you watching then?
@@christhebritt2231 why are you here then, also if you actually watch it at one point he say that we should talk more about this later in private
I haven’t even watched 5 minutes of this and I think this girl has really needed this for a long time. I sincerely hope this helps her a lot. I’ll be honest, There’s been a lot of things that have bugged me about Pokimane over the years knowing about her but, I have to remind myself this is somebody who’s been put in front of a world wide audience since a young age, she’s going to have issues I don’t fully understand and I just hope this helps a lot. We all have problems, I have plenty myself.
There was a time about 6 years ago I got upset at every streamer/UA-camr that felt fell in the “fake” category and didn’t treat humans like humans with souls all the time (not saying poki is not human etc. please, try to read between the lines here) I would say things that were too judgmental which is not helping at all and making the problem humanity is facing worst. That problem being too connected too easily without REAL connection to one another.
I have learnt and grown from this since then. Don’t spread hate, fellow people. Spread love
Watching this now after the drama with Jidion and Ninja, she does make it clear around the 2 hour mark that she does not like outing people for harassing her or bullying her publicly, so kudos to her for opening up on stream yesterday and empowering herself and standing up for herself. She has definitely grown as a person in that regard; she understands her own worth not only as a streamer but as a person representing a community.
A side note I thought about, in the disabled community there’s a lot of “your symptoms aren’t as bad as mine so you don’t get to be upset about your pain if it’s not as bad as mine” and I don’t get it, we’re all suffering with symptoms and people even without a disability are allowed to be sad about pain they’re experiencing because that’s their pain, not ours. I just had to get that off my chest sorry.
I think the main takeaway from all these interviews is that you don't have to be sorry, it's cool, there's nothing wrong with just dumping thoughts in comments sections.
Justin B yeah it’s different pain but it’s still pain. I dislocate my joints daily and feel like shit all the time. It’s not okay for me to go out and tell people with joint pain that they’re not allowed to feel that pain or talk about it because it’s not as bad as mine. It’s still pain, all pain is pain and no ones allowed to tell people they’re wrong and aren’t allowed to feel their pain. I wouldn’t go to a person with my condition who suffers from heart problems and a punctured lung and start telling them how to get better coz I have no idea. My pain isn’t the same as theirs but both of our pain exists.
@jorge guzman but pain is pain. Just because I have a much higher pain tolerance in order to function as a human doesnt mean everyone with less pain than me dont matter. Also money doesnt equal happiness, you can actually be rich and horribly depressed. And that's allowed and valid.
Justin B well I mean it’s hard to differentiate with that, like I look completely normal, I’m not in a wheelchair, I can walk into a shop and back out but sometimes I get pass out spells or horrific vertigo or my legs just stop being legs so I use a disabled spot because of that risk. If there was a choice between me and a wheelchair user then 100% I can walk from the spot that’s slightly further away. Noone should diminish others pain because we don’t know what others are truly going through and feeling. I can semi comfortably push myself to walk to the village shops and it looks relatively effortless but when I get home, I’m almost paralysed for a bottle of milk.
Justin B no i totally agree on that front, I just don’t like when people feel superiority for feeling more pain than others and telling people with less pain to shut up about it. Also if people are dicks and wanna use depression/disability as a get out of jail free card they can eat my ass tbh I don’t care about those people. Pissed me off when Harvey Weinstein was suddenly disabled at his trial.
I got a second hand therapy session from this
plasma jumbo it’s part of the AOE healing bro!
@@user-lp8ur5qn3o Area of Effect. :)
i got HAND therapy if you know what i mean
I really thought this was a double entendre but I think I'm just tired
AOE healing is a great thing but also understand that your max health will likely not change without a first hand assist
I just discovered Dr. K a few days ago, and I've been slowly watching through a few of his videos. And I want to say 2 things (both of which have surely been said a lot in the comments)
1: This is such a great thing that you are doing Dr. K. Spreading this positivity and mental health awareness is so important. I'm sure these videos will be a huge help for so many people.
2: These streamers are incredibly brave for putting themselves out there like this. Streaming is already such an intrusive media, but to allow yourself to show your emotions, and have these deeply personal conversations in such a public way is, at least in my opinion, just as important as what Dr. K is doing.
So thank you both (as well as all of the other streamers that have participated) for putting yourselves out there for such a noble cause.
It’s incredible how doctors break people down it’s insane how they piece things together
It is weird how much these kinds of therapy interviews humanize streamers. It makes me realize how much on the surface we judge them and how wrong this is. This young women (I didn't even know she was this young) has to live in a world where almost every decision she makes is scrutinized and judged from a very young and I don't think it's fair. None of us are built by default to handle such things so early on. I will be sure to apply a lot more compassion when discussing/thinking about internet personalities. Thanks for the stream!
She probably does not humanize the people who make her earn money, so in return she wont be humanized. You have the public you deserve.
Obviously she has interpersonal problems, but let's be real for a second : who does not?
@@slals What you say may be true. But at the same time that doesn't mean that we have to judge her as a robot with bad programming. Just because she may be numb and acting that way it doesn't mean that we have to do it as well. Of course, at the same time, we don't owe her money or attention either. It was more of a thought experiment.
@@BlazerBoy1337 I never say that I judge her as a robot. My point is that we are animals with social instinct that makes human interaction (group interaction) the way it is, independantly of how you think and you behave on a personal level. On the other hand, Pokimane have a complete control on how she depicts herself, thus how people will think about her, and she is intelligent enough to know that.
@@slals I disagree in the sense that you allocate her full control in herself. In the same sense that we are animals and don't have full control of our behavior so does she. I think this is a mistake we do when looking at streamers (or personalities in general), we think that everything they do is calculated and planed. But, as it is a livestream, we will surely see unfiltered reactions and actions. To put it in another way, if you were in her place how would you react to all the feedback she has gotten? Be it positive or negative.
@@BlazerBoy1337 I talked about social instinct, not indivual behavior.
Not everything is calculated, but a lot of thing, that starts by the background of their cam. A streamer very rarely become popular because of hasardous things.
I really enjoy it when Dr.K talks about his kids because I never get to hear my dads perspective on what it was like raising kids or what his feelings were towards me and my sister. Thanks Dr.K
Same :(
You never know you've fucked up your kids until they're grown up and that's scary
Same
@Jeff B some people don't have that kind of relationship with their parents, or the parents just don't like to talk about stuff like that..
Dude I tried game ending last year and the only person that knows about it is my cousin. I don't know but the gap between me and my parents is too big to break my mental issues to them.
Guys I’m watching this on Christmas and I just love this wholesomeness and the growth and authenticity and messiness. UGH. Absolutely freaking love this :)))))))❤❤❤
you provide such an empathetic space in the internet that felt like it was lost, thank you so much.
Poki sounds like someone who gave too many pieces of herself away and forgot what she wanted and who she was deep down. I really relate to this and I cry about it too.
I don't think she gave away pieces of herself. She neglected herself, tried to use adulation to compensate for the lack of self-love, and stretched herself too thin.
Making sacrifices is a part of being responsible, but she then proceeded to punish herself for not being happy to be making those sacrifices.
She said she feels guilty for playing video games for 12 hours for no reason. Just hit 10,000 Unemployed hours on dota 2 and feel like a GOD.
What is a Dota
@Agyfasz-Huszár szia
Is that supposed to be a good thing lmao
yikes
That's rookie numbers....sadly :(
This is one of the best conversations I've ever listened to. I learned so much about myself and a lot of lessons 🥺
The discussion on talking to parents reminded me of when I told my parents that I was struggling with depression and had been since high school.
They said "That's impossible. You're my child. You don't get depression."
I replied "Well.. I do. And I wanted you to know and that I'm working on it. But sometimes I just won't be happy."
Then they insisted on me moving back in, which I absolutely refused, because despite me asking for support from my family, I needed to maintain a certain level of personal control. Now they just check in on me and send me a few care packages, which I appreciate. haha
i didnt realize she was only 23. i think she'll be fine. she's intelligent and introspective enough.
Simp
Hi. I like your video. Are you still an sjw?
Intelligence can also be their own downfall if they don't keep their thoughts in check.
Jeff K. Simp
Jeff K. Simp
I just spent three hours watching people talk and I feel like I spent ten years learning about humanity. What the hell.
Yep
But that's a good thing right?..
Yup, sadly this is a rare occurence here in america. We are the most individualistic country on this planet. In other points the world, and central U.S.A. this is a common occurance, to actually sit down and care about another person's thoughts
YourFavoriteSpartan idk about the most individualistic country in the planet, Japan is up there but then again you guys are made to think you are somehow special compared to the world and always number 1, let’s hope China beats that
@@hopefulbloom what if it wasn't? ;)
I have been catching more and more of these interviews while I do my homework for college, and I am beginning to really appreciate your approach. You have a gift Dr. K.
god the way she immediately started crying is so relatable. it made me tear up too. literally exactly what I would do in this situation.
"People don't want to hear someone like me complain". I'm a 'nobody', but seeing a 'somebody' feel the same doubts and feelings, have human problems, feel restless, in need of change, reenforces that no matter what I DO end up achieving, or what relative level of accompishment I get to in life, happiness is not found in the result. It's found in the journeys we go on, the interactions we have, and the challenges we face, overcome, or lose to, and our mental approach to those. Thanks Poki and Dr. K, again.
this comment said something sincere about Etika but I accidentally changed it, rip.
purad for real, at least he gets to make a difference for others today
@@adc4836 that's a positive
yeah for real
Damnnnn
yes. instead, we got that trash keemstar to talk to him before the tragedy happened
Dr.k i really really trully am thankfull that your channel exist, its really helped me undertsand alot of my own "tangles" and start to accept and heal from it.
Thanks Dr. K and Emon for this.
Having the possibility to see two people truly connecting and opening up It's a gift and example for me
I think channel is really important to have. Everyone should sub to this guy
hit him with my twitch prime yesterday, dude had me crying and wasnt even talking to me.
@@jackflexington4706 wat made yo cry?
@@siegpasta When he was drunk crying yesterday talking to that kid about his life. First time I ever found him streaming except for when kitboga hosted him.
@@jackflexington4706 I left mid-poki-interview caus bored init, so I fukin missed it.
What a fanny on, fuck me likee.
@@jackflexington4706 I feel truly blessed to find this guy. I had the same reaction the first "season" I saw of him and sky. It is wonderful what he does. I will check out the drunken stream later today, put it off but sounds funny af.
This is so powerful.
I think Imane is such a smart and strong person but she's also so young. I never realized she was only 23. I can't believe she still has so much place to grow! I'm happy to say, and I say this confidently, that you will grow so much more. This is only the beginning Imane. You got this. Much love.
seriously, she's my same age and I feel like I amount nothing to what she's done in life, and in the same way I can't even begin to imagine how much pressure she feels from the work enviroment she works in
@tim conway your abuse of LOL is cringe beyond my capacity to write
@tim conway piss off you attention seeker, no one responded to your first comment so you have to reply again so that people give you the attention that you seek
I3INARY_
Make up is the only answer
@I3INARY_ ok
I never thought I'd relate to Pokimane. I hope she's doing better now.
Im sure she is doing alot worse now after fed fake leak
@@sorakanohealing4070I think she's okay, she addressed it all on twitch. But honestly it was uncalled for. Sure she's done shitty things. But leaking private conversations is so gross and doesn't excuse what fed has done.
@@xTatlTaelx true! Yh i hope so
These are so valuable, thanks for sharing the talks with others!
When he told Poki "You're not alone, I'm with you, at least for a little while", idk why but I suddenly started tearing up as well. The power of those words is not to be underestimated
When she said she felt the need to make her parents proud for what they did for her, I started crying so bad... Its so powerful how someone can express vulnerability on a subject that is very close to you and then, suddenly, you're there, you feel like you're the one being listened to by Dr. K...
I felt so bad at the beginning when she started crying and went for tissues, I just wanted to give her a hug:(
This is a great example of why talking to a psychologist can be beneficial. Thank you to all of the people coming onto this channel for being open and honest and leading by example. There is unfortunately such a massive stigma on these types of interactions. We need this as a culture and society.
This man is doing god's work...
This streamers spend their lives in front of a pc screen and put their lives out for people to jugde and critize them. I'm not able to imagine the amount of mental weight they hold.
Yes they have the money to go to therapy, but this man is making possible that everyone of us to see thing clear about mental health and how everybody has issues beyond what's happening on screen and HOPEFULLY the community will improve to a healthy point.
Oh yeah, their life is sooo difficult XD Poor streamers and their burdensome job.
dude u should have seen the AMA part doc's helping to pay a random discord member's college fees(for 1st year tho) and that shows how much he cares and is dedicated to help us gamers
To be honest it would be nice if he had talks with smaller streamers that cannot afford therapy. Only top 1% of streamers makes money, others actually lose money streaming (living costs, equipment etc).
Still gr8 job.
@@Proximity94 dude stfu
@@jaydenong5503 Truth hurts, I see.
When she started talking about her parents and how hard they worked to immigrate to provide them everything they didn’t have hit me so hard. Because I felt the same way, I felt like I had to be perfect. Perfect in the sense of Good grades, no drugs, no alcohol, no parties, no boyfriends, nothing that can endanger my future that they carefully prepared for me. I literally went to uni just because I thought it would make them proud...I’m graduating this fall with a bachelors of science and I’m just like...did I want this? Have I succeeded? Did I make them proud?
gigi ! Dam yea shits crazy... I feel this often too but I’m still in uni
If your first thought is how happy someone else would be for your accomplishment, this will be something you struggle with... You need to make yourself proud, find your “dharma” and feel satisfied with your life (not serve someone else’s desires)
Lol better than me, I forced myself through engineering even though I’m terrible at and hate math and physics and ended up failing and dropping out in my final year and attempted suicide. Better place rn and realised my parents just want me to be happy, but in training for a job better suited for me that I hope I can make money to support them.
I have a very similar experience. Instead of doing instrumental performance as amy major i did engineering because i didn’t want all of my parent’s efforts to go to waste because i chose to be happy, rather than choosing what made most practical sense.
Our generation is literally having to relearn how to accept ourselves and be adults because of the immense pressure from our parents and its so shitty. Also fuck dads cuz idk what its like to have one.
Man, Poki is really emotionally intelligent
You mean manipulative? Lol well, they're essentially the same thing.
Intelligent yes, but I don't see a lot of emotional self-acceptance.
*The HATE has gotten to her guys..*
*Dr. K's first question: How are you feeling?*
*Poki - starts crying...*
Yeah, I really hope that she's feeling better within herself now.
@@Riku-Leela yea same
Honestly and that says a lot
I am an asshole. High-five mate!
I can tell from miles that she needs a break from twitch as a job.
Damn these twitch streamers have it really hard sitting all day reacting to videos while receiving millions of dollars.
@@payamux8933 Being succsesful and rich doesn't make you immune to mental illness, and it doesn't mean you have the right to dehumaise them either.
@@payamux8933 the money and comfort is the good aspect of being a streamer and most of the time it's the only aspect people take into account when they visualise one. The reality of having to bring the highest energy/most entertaining version of yourself to sometimes thousands of viewers on a daily basis is not healthy for your mental state
@@payamux8933 you came in the wrong house fool
@@payamux8933 Question: What brought you to this channel? For someone watching a mental health focused channel you are really oblivious to it. Makes me hard to think that you would be a regular here.
I just noticed a real smooth thing dr. K did. he asked "how is your name pronounced?" instead of saying "what's your name again?" I think that so much better to say instead of just asking for their name again. Like it's much friendlier and better goddamn.
that only works if you have a foreign/hard to pronounce name though
@@haziee3108 doesn't matter really, I would assume they just want to get my name right. But they also hear my name again so it's killing two birds with one stone.
@@GetFox3 it kinda does. If I had a name that was impossible to mess up like bob, it would be a bit weird for people to ask me how to pronounce that instead of just asking for my name again if they just forgot it
@@haziee3108 I rather people think I am weird then make them feel bad for forgetting their name
@@claudioestrella1160 my point was then it would be obvious you just forgot their name it you'd asked how to pronounce a common name
Gosh, I didn't expect this to hit me so hard. I certainly did not expect to cry at the very least. Man that was intense
watching this in July 2021 and I cannot stop crying. I somehow relate a lot to how Poki feels even if my life is completely different from hers.
I hope you're ok 💜
@@no-one.in.particular💜
Bruh
I had some weird blame/anger towards Pokimane even though I don't watch her and I conciously understood that it's not her fault - because of a lot of the toxic/simp people who were always the ones to bring her name up everywhere, just acting beyond annoying. It got tiring to go around twitch and constantly hear people who either hate her for dumb reasons, oversexualise her, or hype up some dumb clips.
I'm really grateful for this 3h talk because it actually let me learn who she is a person, out of the context of the bad part of her community, and now I can appreciate her, genuinely hope she gets to achieve peace and find true friendships in the business, as well just not get frustrated next time I see someone in chat being nasty about her name.
Lixy Fox she’s not actually that annoying it’s just always been a thing to hate her
@@traze2963 I don't think she's annoying, just that seeing a lot of weird and nasty comments all over twitch about her got annoying to me and it made it so I couldn't help but associate it with her stream/to an extent her.
I should probably also tune into one of her game streams at some point just to see if I like it
The truth is, if you're a twitch streamer like her and your personality is based off of screaming and being hyper, you're gonna get called annoying by some people. The problem is some of these haters just take it way too far and mass dislike her videos or Weirdchamp and Dansgame anytime she appears on their favorite streamer's stream. If you think a streamer is annoying just leave the stream or don't watch it, trust me no ones gonna miss you.
@@genkyo6 I think that's too simple of an explanation.
I actually first found out about Poki from a video on my feed listing all the reasons why I should hate her. But I started watching her videos and offline TV stuff, and I found I actually really like her. 😆
This guy is really good. Anyone who gets a session with him is blessed
Truly
This was absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much to both of them. The meditation in the end was a great way to end the stream.
Very relatable, thank you both for allowing this interview to happen.
Definitely relate to the crying after saying "hello".... from personal experience it comes from a lot of unchecked/unresolved pressing issues and being in a situation where you're anticipating talking about them is super overwhelming :
This is going viral. I'm glad that someone is doing work like this on youtube, and it's FREE! Dr. K is doing a huge thing with his channel and this entire project
Well technically it's done live on twitch and then the VOD is just uploaded here after a while.
@@seb5542 it doesnt take that much time tho.it was streamed yesterday
It's been viral since reckful
Can anyone talk to him?
I love how he narrate story about kaurava and pandavas from Ancient Hindu literature book "Mahabharat" and make it relatable for her to understand. 👏👏 Love from India man !! 💞
When he said “Pandavas” I said “wait, I know this!”
This interview has a ton more context for me after the revelations with Fed. And I'm not sure if those are adequate revelations.. but I think Poki had a lot more tangled in herself at this point. Love your work Dr. K, the streaming community and gamers are such a fascinating world to explore. Thank you!
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. All people ever see is Pokimane the ruthless business woman, Pokimane the queen, Pokimane the most successful female streamer. Her fans and haters alike only see what's in front of them. As a person, Imane doesn't feel like she has a right to complain or feel down because she has all these things. Which just goes back to the point that no matter how much money and fame you have it doesn't necessarily mean you'll suddenly gain eternal happiness.
200 iq 🤣👌
I don’t think finding happiness in a life a destination, it’s more of a journey. Imane seem to be detached from reality until Dr K hit the right spots
Sure, money isn't a guaranteed happiness. But it's hard to feel bad for her when she brings it on herself. She can't take criticism, and got a smaller channel to lose a big sponsor, thus affecting his income (bet you don't care how that made him feel right, since he's a dude.)
Plus she kinda sells out by filming in a way everyone can see her in tight yoga pants.
@@HordePlayerMostly you really care about her lmao
@@morroc6846😂 not really. That's information you can get from 1 video.
This is reminding me massively of conversations I had with a therapist about a year ago. I feel bad for Poki, because it really does suck to constantly be beating yourself up with the idea of 'should' - the kind of person you 'should' be, the type of job you 'should' have, the progress you 'should' be making. For years I'd been stuck in a cycle of thinking that whatever I did, it wasn't enough. When it gets really bad, it truly is horrible because it's almost like you can't enjoy anything. Even if you do achieve something you've been aiming towards, you don't get to feel proud of yourself because your brain is telling you 'Right, that's done - what's the next thing? Better not stand around for too long otherwise you'll fall behind.'. And it was really hard learning to live with that, especially seeing as some things had recently gone wrong in my life, and I was blaming myself for them because I perceived that they were taking me further away from the kind of person I 'should' be trying to be.
Dr K: The monster in you is FED.
Me a few months later: 👁👄👁 he is a prophet
well that aged well...
@@ryan._.6417 sure it did😂👍🏻
@@King_Solomon_the_Libtart well at the end poki was in the wrong
@@ryan._.6417 how do you figure?
I don't follow Pokimane - can someone elaborate on what exactly happened that was 'foreshadowed' by Dr. K?
LITERALLY When he said what is wrong with crying over and over again I started SOBBING
To the people in the comments calling others a simp for empathizing with her, I just wanna say, that I’m hope you can get better in the future. I know that there is probably something going on in your life that is making you lash out at others. I hope that one day you gain empathy for others.
Tyler Fulton Simp 😂
Simp
I'm saying simp as a joke, I generally feel bad for her a lot of times, cause I can understand how she feels
Simp
But seriously, very true man, quality comment.
theyre joking usually
@@itsaident Probably depends on what kind of person Tyler is.
It is possible to feel both things at once though. You can be angry and resentful of someone, while also hoping that their life becomes better and them a better person.
I feel like I owe my parents too. I feel like I’m a debtor. I dream of just throwing 2 million dollars their way and then just disappearing from them and finding out what is important to me.
I definitely feel the same
yep indian here feel the exact same, i wanna leave but feel like I owe them a lot of money and time lol
I promise you that your parents would much rather have a relationship with you than $2 million.
@@shanehere I would too but there's too much damage done to me by them for any sort of relationship to be possible
@@JoelGonzalez-qf8cp money ruins people. Trust me, your parents need love and support more than money. I used to sell weed, big quantities and I was never so miserable in all my life and I could buy anything i wanted. But you cant tape over deep problems with money woman or cars. Woman and money brake your heart a lot less than cars do lol.
This was really interesting to listen to. I was surprised at how much I could relate even as someone with a whole set of different circumstances, background etc.
It was really brave to open up with these feelings for 3 hours in front of countless people watching.