Picard was well-suited to the era in which he lived. In Kirk's time, a lot of the space near the heart of the Federation was still unexplored. So an adventurer-captain was needed. A century later, the Federation was a great deal larger, they had explored much more of that part of the galaxy. Hence a diplomat-captain was more necessary. To paraphrase: they'd already found new life and new civilizations. Now they needed to establish relations with them.
Imagine the star maps Kirk left behind. "Greek Gods live here." "Here it's like Earth but we're still all Roman." "Gangster planet, see!" Starfleet Command must have thought he was crazy.
I disagree, Picard wouldn't have blundered through so many of Kirk's adventures and needlessly gotten a lot of people killed. Picard was never afraid to take action or risk, he clearly had an explorer's heart, but he was also a capable diplomat.
"May I ask, why did you hit your glass against mine?" "It is an earth custom from the Roman era. They frequently poisoned each other's drinks, so an ostentatious clash of drinking cup would see liquid spill from one vessel to the next, deterring would-be assassins and revealing in-progress assassins if they refused to drink." "I have heard enough, we declare war."
"That is a pity then. Mister Worf, you may commence firing" "Aye Captain, targeting major population centres now" "You will find that were are not just good at making wine, but we have a fine range of high yield Anti-Matter weapons"
Mirror Universe Picard would be that one villain who is always smiling and is congenial 100% of the time, especially when he's reading the summary of your family's torture and execution. It's a shame TNG never really tried to recreate Mirror, Mirror.
"May I ask, how is grabbing one another's wrist and shaking them a sign of a friendly gesture?" "It is an earth custom from the days of antiquity. Daggers, (small bladed weapons) were often concealed under the right sleeve. Thus when two individuals both grabbed each other by where it was kept and shook to dislodge a potential weapon, it was a confirmation that both were unarmed and came to meet in good faith." "Then why must we perform this search? Do you believe I possess a concealed weapon, this offense is grounds for war!"
@@michaelesposito2629 “don’t drink it all at once and if possible try not to drink it alone” were the words his brother used. The purpose of the statement was to say he should drink it with friends or loved ones. And here he is attempting to establish a new friendship by using a drink that is clearly special to him. So I would say yes, in fact this is close to what he meant
David Tenant is the same way for me. There's an adaptation of Hamlet on PBS that has both Patrick Stewart (Picard) and David Tenant in it. Last time I looked it is on the PBS website. It is a modernized adaptation but a very good one. You might like it.
Kurtman had said he and JJ were more Star Wars people. JJ stated he never liked Star Trek as a kid and couldn't get into growing up as he felt it was too philosophical for him. It's why they don't get Star Trek and we haven't had Star Trek since 2005.
Show me a person with no interest in philosophy and i'll show you a glorified chimp, merely going through the motions of life with little understanding of what is happening. A true waste of oxygen.
@@JS-fp2rb Yes... And these people will keep on 'living life', right up until the point at which humanity destroys itself, like a bug on a windscreen... And then they'll be wondering why it happened. But they will find no answers. That's not life, my friend. That's merely existing. Philosophy is not separate from life, it is an important part of life. Ignore it at your peril. If you want an example of the consequences, take a look around at the society humanity has made for itself based on 'not wanting to understand'.
@@RogueShadows Well, I didn't like it. All that is true about exploring the themes that Gene Roddenberry wanted to explore, and it being what made Star Trek great and etc. But *the writers* made it bland and uninspired by making the planet so much like current day Earth, and throwing in the whole commentary about how today people care more about "fictional broadcasts" and the small matters of their daily lives! In fact, I will say again that the story was ruined by the "off the drawing board and into the script" writing being so bland and unimaginative and uninspiring. 😞
@@edadan “Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” (Matthew 7:17-20) How do you know to trust people? By their fruits. You will know their fruits through time and experience.
"Trust requires time." In the 21st century, after the Vulcans made first contact with humans in 2063, the humans didn't know whether to trust or distrust their new alien allies. They just opened their arms and hoped they were peaceful.
Actually, ENT showed that they *didn't* really trust the Vulcans, or vice versa. Earth, and especially Archer, was peeved that the Vulcans would not readily share their more advanced technology. Which is interesting when compared to this TNG episode, where Picard tells the Chancellor that just casually transforming a society by giving it advanced technology is disruptive and dangerous. Archer spent most of the ENT series whining about the Vulcans withholding goodies from Earth (and especially his father) even though humanity was still technically in a world war when the Vulcans made first contact.
***** I suspect that's a problem that will simply repeat itself when any space-faring society w/ very advanced technology meets a society less advanced in whatever area - those with a lot to gain will want to gain it quickly, and those with a lot to offer (and the experience to know that that does not always go well) will always be overcautious. Hopefully, both societies have diplomats like Picard to make the transition go smoothly :p
novus ordo seclorum Better than genocidal loons like Archer that's for sure! There presumably *has* to be some kind of system here. Because there is *no way* that the multitude of civilizations that get absorbed into the Federation were exactly at its level of technology when they joined!
+Daniel S WW3 had ended technically, however, there were still delegates from all nations stationed in San Francisco to enforce the treaty which ended the fighting. Or at least ended the hot part of the war. Earth was on a very slow road to unification and there was a 21st century "Space Race"(different then the one in the 20th century between two major super nations).
This episode doesn't get on a lot of top 10 lists for TNG, but it's a great example of why fans loved this era of Star Trek so much. It has big ideas, it takes time to explore those ideas, it has people with opposing viewpoints, and it respects the audience enough to let them choose, without invalidating any side of the debate. It's a stellar episode (no pun intended), and an underrated one, IMO.
It's basically the fundamentals of communicating. Share a part of your culture, with a personal slant, to appeal and establish a common thread of similarities. When it's mentioned they have a similar drink, the basic connection is formed.
Captain Picard was always at his top-notch professional best when it came to negotiations & diplomacy. .....which is why I always did admire about the character so damn much.
I feel like this is a risky diplomatic move. "Hey. I wanna be your friend. Drink this intoxicant." Depending on the species, that could be seen as an act of poisoning...
Notice how Picard holds the stem of the glass. That's what connoisseurs do so that they don't warm the wine with their fingers around the glass holding the wine.
@@thomaszaniello7084 they "appropriated" trek and tried to turn it into some lowest common denominator SJW bullshit. Sad really. Thank god we have the real thing.
I's always time to re-watch it. A few Years ago I got myself Netflix because I wanted to watch "Rick and Morty". I still have it because now I can watch Star Trek every time I want
*Why* can't we have a Star Trek show of this quality again? I was a bit too young for TNG when it first ran, so it hard for me to even imagine that such a show was running. I doubt anyone likes 'Discovery'.
set 20 years after nemesis... If Picard is still a captain, what's a bitch gotta do to get promoted around here? I mean if ADMIRAL janeway is a thing, what did picard do? Went on the Maury show to prove he's not the father to all the women he had a fling with?
I credit TNG for being part of the reason for why my intellect stands where it is. Not only did I learn a lot of new words, but this show was my gateway to viewing any TV show's episodes as commentary for current sociopolitical issues. It was through this show that I realized what component a particular species was representing and how the episode debated the issue. My greatest appreciation is that the program never advocated one side for another and was willing to contradict itself in an effort to say, "The world is complicated. There are no easy answers. Inform yourself as much as you can and make your own decisions." I've never seen "Discovery," but from what I gather, it seems like it's the watered down version of "Star Trek" that no one wants.
@@Zerklass Somehow, your comment works on two levels - criticizing Picard, and acting offended at the 'old lesbian' bit. Kinda like saying "The Old Lesbian takes offense to that comparison as the Old Lesbian is not nearly as bad" basically :P
I have a similar beef in D&D. The first mage to have discovered the spell "minor illusion" certainly wouldn't have discovered "major illusion" immediately before or after to compare their effects. It would have just been "illusion" and then probably "greater illusion".
Hah. I just watched this episode last night. Love the fact that the lady who is Head of the Scientific Community in this is also the Captain of the Romulan Warbird in the episode where Troi is kidnapped and turned into a Romulan to infiltrate the ship and safely transport members of the underground defectors to the Enterprise.
They absolutely do talk like this... behind closed doors, when discussing how the charade of D vs R is making it jolly easy to fool the people into fighting each other over nothing while the government takes more from them to appease corporate donors.
I think this episode is interesting in that the society their visiting is a poking fun at our own current (Or then early 90s) society. Just starting to reach out to space, people thinking government alien conspiracies, a nutjob who wanted to have sex with an alien (Those do exist) the scientist telling Picard don't judge them by their broadcasts (Trash TV, etc.) among many others.
I can say to you that the moment we encounter an intelligent alien specie someone somewhere will want to have sex with it. Especially if it's humanoid.
Star Trek TNG was at its best with stories like this. "Darmok" was another good one. Focused on relationships and exploring questions of cultures interacting. Instead of techno-babble and god-like aliens.
Product placement on TNG Picard: “Trust requires time and experience. That’s why I only purchase Michelin brand warp drives- I trust them to transport my loved ones across the galaxy safely every time”
And that is how the Federation discovered that the people from Melkor III are deathly allergic to Earth's grapes, or any material derived of their components. Condolences and flowers will be sent shortly to the family of the chancellor and we here at the Federation express our deepest hopes that this ... tragic accident will not in any way hinder any future alliances between the good people of Melkor III and our very own Federation.
The first three captains were spot on for their roles. Kirk was the cowboy captain. Shields up and phasers armed in the wild world of space exploring. He always reminded me of the cowboy in the rough old west out scouting the new area just waiting for an ambush to pop up from any where. Picard was the smart book schooled diplomat with the silver tongue and could talk his way out of trouble or into a new friendship like this. Sisko was the battle hard, punch first ask question later type leader who was needed during the time of war. That's why I think he's character stumbled a lot early on until the war started than he was in his element. I wasn't really much into Voyager and Janeway. She was kind of annoying to me. If any of her crew was taken or had to deal with aliens she always preached about how they had to go by the Prime Directive.....except with Seven of Nine.By god if she ever got a hint of being in danger Janeway came in blasting everything in sight.
Janeway was the biggest "explorer-scientist" type, and one for almost maniacal strenght of morality. I disagree about Sisko. He isn't "punch first" type, rather he's one that won't spend time on bullshit and games. He's the "down to business" type, the only captain to be able to confidently make hard decisions.
PassiveSmoking he did what had to be done, whether he liked it or not. in my opinion he was the strongest of the star trek captains, willing to do anything to protect humanity from the Xindi.
hard to think this was playing on TVs in America across the country. fast forward a few decades and writers don't think Americans can't sit still for more than 5 seconds without something exploding
I know this is seven months after you wrote that, but I think if you give people a chance at something slower and more thoughtful, they'll find they still have an appetite for it.
Plot Twist. The chancellor's species has an extremely toxic reaction to grapes and he dies horribly. A war then breaks out because a Starfleet captain assassinated the chancellor.
well, they also didnt look each other in the eyes while clinking the glasses together. Thats 7 years of bad sex, if you are German. Traditions and superstitions vary from place to place.
I wonder.. did the captain consciously pour more into his glass, creating a subliminal message to project his higher status within this proposal of communing?
Great scene, but it always bugs me that he calls his own planet "Malcor 3"... its like me saying "We have something very similar down on good old Sol-3". ;)
Maybe they’ve colonised other planets in their system? The original one is Malcor, then they moved to a new one which they called New Malcor. But rather than the next one being called New New Malcor, they opted for a number instead. And maybe keeping the name is significant. Who knows?
Picard was well-suited to the era in which he lived. In Kirk's time, a lot of the space near the heart of the Federation was still unexplored. So an adventurer-captain was needed. A century later, the Federation was a great deal larger, they had explored much more of that part of the galaxy. Hence a diplomat-captain was more necessary. To paraphrase: they'd already found new life and new civilizations. Now they needed to establish relations with them.
Very articulative.
Imagine the star maps Kirk left behind. "Greek Gods live here." "Here it's like Earth but we're still all Roman." "Gangster planet, see!" Starfleet Command must have thought he was crazy.
Matilda
"Hot babes. Very Green."
I disagree, Picard wouldn't have blundered through so many of Kirk's adventures and needlessly gotten a lot of people killed. Picard was never afraid to take action or risk, he clearly had an explorer's heart, but he was also a capable diplomat.
That is I think the reason he was stationed at DS9
"May I ask, why did you hit your glass against mine?"
"It is an earth custom from the Roman era. They frequently poisoned each other's drinks, so an ostentatious clash of drinking cup would see liquid spill from one vessel to the next, deterring would-be assassins and revealing in-progress assassins if they refused to drink."
"I have heard enough, we declare war."
"That is a pity then. Mister Worf, you may commence firing"
"Aye Captain, targeting major population centres now"
"You will find that were are not just good at making wine, but we have a fine range of high yield Anti-Matter weapons"
Mirror Universe Picard would be that one villain who is always smiling and is congenial 100% of the time, especially when he's reading the summary of your family's torture and execution.
It's a shame TNG never really tried to recreate Mirror, Mirror.
@@ayanithtalreign there is a comics version, though: 'TNG: Mirror Broken' and 'TNG: Through the Mirror'
@@Nisselak I'll check it out, thanks.
"May I ask, how is grabbing one another's wrist and shaking them a sign of a friendly gesture?"
"It is an earth custom from the days of antiquity. Daggers, (small bladed weapons) were often concealed under the right sleeve. Thus when two individuals both grabbed each other by where it was kept and shook to dislodge a potential weapon, it was a confirmation that both were unarmed and came to meet in good faith."
"Then why must we perform this search? Do you believe I possess a concealed weapon, this offense is grounds for war!"
When Picard's brother gave him that bottle and told him not to drink it alone, I don't think this is what he meant.
OK maybe not *exactly* but i'm sure he would be pleased and would consider it put to good use
Bahahaha
walterw2 lol no. No I don’t think this was even CLOSE
Shows what you know about 24th century diplomacy 😘
@@michaelesposito2629 “don’t drink it all at once and if possible try not to drink it alone” were the words his brother used. The purpose of the statement was to say he should drink it with friends or loved ones. And here he is attempting to establish a new friendship by using a drink that is clearly special to him. So I would say yes, in fact this is close to what he meant
Holy crap I can listen to him read a McDonald's menu nutrition sheet
SuperPicard Me
“Nutrition” is giving that sheet WAY too much credit
Jeremiah Bullfrog :)
David Tenant is the same way for me. There's an adaptation of Hamlet on PBS that has both Patrick Stewart (Picard) and David Tenant in it. Last time I looked it is on the PBS website. It is a modernized adaptation but a very good one. You might like it.
Ha ha ha - those were the days!
See Kurtzman this? This right here, is Star Trek.
Not enough ‘splosions’ for Kurtzman.
Kurtman had said he and JJ were more Star Wars people. JJ stated he never liked Star Trek as a kid and couldn't get into growing up as he felt it was too philosophical for him.
It's why they don't get Star Trek and we haven't had Star Trek since 2005.
Show me a person with no interest in philosophy and i'll show you a glorified chimp, merely going through the motions of life with little understanding of what is happening. A true waste of oxygen.
@@Jogeta5 We do have Star Trek, it's just now called The Orville.
@@JS-fp2rb Yes... And these people will keep on 'living life', right up until the point at which humanity destroys itself, like a bug on a windscreen... And then they'll be wondering why it happened. But they will find no answers.
That's not life, my friend. That's merely existing.
Philosophy is not separate from life, it is an important part of life. Ignore it at your peril. If you want an example of the consequences, take a look around at the society humanity has made for itself based on 'not wanting to understand'.
"First Contact" was an underrated episode. Explored exactly the types of issues and themes that Roddenberry wanted in his shows. Vintage Trek, this.
I agree completely.
Things sadly tend to change when the mind behind the show passes away.
Is it underrated? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone talk about it in anything but glowing terms.
And depicts a backward society, so it could have used some 21st century product placements as well
@@RogueShadows Well, I didn't like it.
All that is true about exploring the themes that Gene Roddenberry wanted to explore, and it being what made Star Trek great and etc.
But *the writers* made it bland and uninspired by making the planet so much like current day Earth, and throwing in the whole commentary about how today people care more about "fictional broadcasts" and the small matters of their daily lives!
In fact, I will say again that the story was ruined by the "off the drawing board and into the script" writing being so bland and unimaginative and uninspiring. 😞
"Trust Requires Time And Experience"
Truer words had never been spoken
Cheers 🥂🤝
Then you’ve never heard that “Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father in Heaven”.
@@edadan Plants did not exist before the sun, moon and stars. Your bible is a work of fiction.
@@edadan “Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” (Matthew 7:17-20)
How do you know to trust people? By their fruits. You will know their fruits through time and experience.
You know back when I was in the academy we would follow every toast with a song
Lol. I love the comment section
Come cheer up me lads...
Come cheer up me lads...
Watch Data & Picard by Pogo and thank me later.
"Trust requires time." In the 21st century, after the Vulcans made first contact with humans in 2063, the humans didn't know whether to trust or distrust their new alien allies. They just opened their arms and hoped they were peaceful.
Actually, ENT showed that they *didn't* really trust the Vulcans, or vice versa. Earth, and especially Archer, was peeved that the Vulcans would not readily share their more advanced technology. Which is interesting when compared to this TNG episode, where Picard tells the Chancellor that just casually transforming a society by giving it advanced technology is disruptive and dangerous. Archer spent most of the ENT series whining about the Vulcans withholding goodies from Earth (and especially his father) even though humanity was still technically in a world war when the Vulcans made first contact.
***** I suspect that's a problem that will simply repeat itself when any space-faring society w/ very advanced technology meets a society less advanced in whatever area - those with a lot to gain will want to gain it quickly, and those with a lot to offer (and the experience to know that that does not always go well) will always be overcautious. Hopefully, both societies have diplomats like Picard to make the transition go smoothly :p
novus ordo seclorum
Better than genocidal loons like Archer that's for sure!
There presumably *has* to be some kind of system here. Because there is *no way* that the multitude of civilizations that get absorbed into the Federation were exactly at its level of technology when they joined!
+Daniel S WW3 had ended technically, however, there were still delegates from all nations stationed in San Francisco to enforce the treaty which ended the fighting. Or at least ended the hot part of the war. Earth was on a very slow road to unification and there was a 21st century "Space Race"(different then the one in the 20th century between two major super nations).
+Daniel S
A Starfleet Comm officer once said, "Anyone who bad mouths Captain Archer is going to get an earful.....in any language they want."
Perhaps you'll like this bottle, its... green.
This episode doesn't get on a lot of top 10 lists for TNG, but it's a great example of why fans loved this era of Star Trek so much. It has big ideas, it takes time to explore those ideas, it has people with opposing viewpoints, and it respects the audience enough to let them choose, without invalidating any side of the debate. It's a stellar episode (no pun intended), and an underrated one, IMO.
Proves you TNG doesn't just have 10 great episodes, but way more.
It always makes me laugh when the aliens of the week refer to their planet like he does, "Melkor III"
I'm going to start saying "Sol 3" instead of Earth.
I think you can explain it away with universal translator shenanigans.
It's basically the fundamentals of communicating. Share a part of your culture, with a personal slant, to appeal and establish a common thread of similarities. When it's mentioned they have a similar drink, the basic connection is formed.
Captain Picard was always at his top-notch professional best when it came to negotiations & diplomacy. .....which is why I always did admire about the character so damn much.
"What? There is poison in this drink!"
"It is called alcohol. Humans are naturally immune to it. Are you not?"
"No!" *Falls dead*
That's what I expected to happen
Resistant. Not immune.
That's why we get drunk.
I feel like this is a risky diplomatic move. "Hey. I wanna be your friend. Drink this intoxicant."
Depending on the species, that could be seen as an act of poisoning...
"we have something similar" indicates to me that he could taste and identify the alcohol
@@johnathanrichardson "it is a crude drink our most wretched class drink after brewing it in a toilet".
Keep in mind they'd been studying their society for years to help have a smooth interaction. Probly because of instances just like that
Notice how Picard holds the stem of the glass. That's what connoisseurs do so that they don't warm the wine with their fingers around the glass holding the wine.
Picard could sell gold to a Ferengi.
*J.R. " Bob " Dobbs could sell a pile of s**t to a common fly* #SubGenius
It was at this moment that Picard found out that this species was fatally allergic to grapes/wine and the leader of their planet died
One of the finest characters on TV, later being told to STFU on a series named after him. My how far we've come!
let us not speak of that! that is NOT star trek! lmao
@@QubitVector Agreed. I don't know what it is.
@@thomaszaniello7084 they "appropriated" trek and tried to turn it into some lowest common denominator SJW bullshit. Sad really. Thank god we have the real thing.
Indeed, but I can't help wondering why Stewart took part in that trash.
@@QubitVector if you don’t think old school is very SJW and liberal then your blind lol
I think its time to re-watch the series !
I's always time to re-watch it. A few Years ago I got myself Netflix because I wanted to watch "Rick and Morty". I still have it because now I can watch Star Trek every time I want
For me it's time to watch it for the first time. I have seen so many clips that I now must explore the story in full.
i hate how i always forget i'm watching a clip, and expect it to go on to its conclusion.
I know right
I wish we could all be just a little like Picard.
*Why* can't we have a Star Trek show of this quality again? I was a bit too young for TNG when it first ran, so it hard for me to even imagine that such a show was running. I doubt anyone likes 'Discovery'.
T G - well, they heard you, soon captain Picard will come back
set 20 years after nemesis... If Picard is still a captain, what's a bitch gotta do to get promoted around here? I mean if ADMIRAL janeway is a thing, what did picard do? Went on the Maury show to prove he's not the father to all the women he had a fling with?
I credit TNG for being part of the reason for why my intellect stands where it is. Not only did I learn a lot of new words, but this show was my gateway to viewing any TV show's episodes as commentary for current sociopolitical issues. It was through this show that I realized what component a particular species was representing and how the episode debated the issue. My greatest appreciation is that the program never advocated one side for another and was willing to contradict itself in an effort to say, "The world is complicated. There are no easy answers. Inform yourself as much as you can and make your own decisions."
I've never seen "Discovery," but from what I gather, it seems like it's the watered down version of "Star Trek" that no one wants.
Uh, a lot of people like DIS. What a stupid thing to say.
It wasn't a stupid thing to say; you just failed to comprehend what I said.
Now those were the days, when Picard didn’t apologise to every bloody person he spoke to.
Yeah, some of these comments were before Discovery and Picard.
...and some of them were after them. Oof.
He acted like a man not an old lesbian.
@@Zerklass Somehow, your comment works on two levels - criticizing Picard, and acting offended at the 'old lesbian' bit. Kinda like saying "The Old Lesbian takes offense to that comparison as the Old Lesbian is not nearly as bad" basically :P
@@darthkek1953 Guarantee "old lesbians" act like more of a man than you.
For some reason, the way the bottle just rises up from out of frame at 0:01 kills me.
lol
"You dance divinely, Captain".
What species would ever refer to their own planet as “XXX-3?” No human would ever refer to Earth as “Terran 3.” None that I have ever met anyway.
I believe that's "Sol 3", actually.
Corry, unedited That works, too.
Blame it on the translator. We say "Earth", they hear "3rd rock from Sol".
Our planet is named after the minority of its surface (dirt). Aliens would call it "water" probably.
I have a similar beef in D&D. The first mage to have discovered the spell "minor illusion" certainly wouldn't have discovered "major illusion" immediately before or after to compare their effects. It would have just been "illusion" and then probably "greater illusion".
I always thought this was one of the most under-rated TNG episodes.
Who underrates it? It was widely considered one of the more important ones.
Pay him no mind; he just said it to sound smug.
Arundodonax Blink of An Eye was one of my favourite episodes; I certainly didn't underrate it. Who do you know didn't like it?
@@r0bw00d Like when people say "this should have more likes" on comments with 10K+ likes
@@fleecemaster Those comments start out when the original comment only has a few likes
Hah. I just watched this episode last night. Love the fact that the lady who is Head of the Scientific Community in this is also the Captain of the Romulan Warbird in the episode where Troi is kidnapped and turned into a Romulan to infiltrate the ship and safely transport members of the underground defectors to the Enterprise.
I loooooove this episode so much
And then the night crew took over.
Beer me!
Picard is the best leade I've ever seen in any show.
Agreed
All the while Picard’s talking about “grapes” and a “toast,” I just wanted this guy to say, “Um, I’m from Switzerland.”
This is one of my favorite episodes. Too bad this scene is cut short.
Imagine if politicians on opposing sides talked to each other like this.
If only we could have that...
They absolutely do talk like this... behind closed doors, when discussing how the charade of D vs R is making it jolly easy to fool the people into fighting each other over nothing while the government takes more from them to appease corporate donors.
First wine. Then some tequila and rock and music.
Should have started with Romulan Ale.
I think this episode is interesting in that the society their visiting is a poking fun at our own current (Or then early 90s) society. Just starting to reach out to space, people thinking government alien conspiracies, a nutjob who wanted to have sex with an alien (Those do exist) the scientist telling Picard don't judge them by their broadcasts (Trash TV, etc.) among many others.
Yeah, I remember that even as a child
I can say to you that the moment we encounter an intelligent alien specie someone somewhere will want to have sex with it.
Especially if it's humanoid.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 Especially if it isn't humanoid.
I feel called out for that alien sex comment
Clap some alien cheeks
Humans really have quite interesting traditions
People often forget that a starship captain is first and foremost a diplomat.
RIP robert and rene ;(
CogitoErgoCogitoSum yeah. A lot. I’m watching ds9 right now.
I learned so much about morality and diplomacy from TNG when I was young. I just don't feel there is anything quite as good for young minds since.
Great scene!
Course of Dynasty:
1. The Conquerer. Note Kirk.
2. The Lawgiver. Note Picard.
3. The Idiot Grandsons. Note Jar Jar Abrams Trek.
Star Trek TNG was at its best with stories like this. "Darmok" was another good one. Focused on relationships and exploring questions of cultures interacting. Instead of techno-babble and god-like aliens.
Diplomacy is the language of best intentions.
He reminds me of the dude on space balls. Use the Schwartz
Those glasses are 🔥
That was an awful lot of wine for put in a wine glass. Picard's idea of diplomacy apparently includes getting the other guy drunk.
"But.. my lord, is that legal?"
Trust requires time and experience what a comeback
Yet accurate.
"I serve Tamriel as it's ruler"
I would give the Aliens COCA COLA and MOUNTAIN DEW BAJA BLAST.
Hold onto the Root Beer as your closer...
“mm yes we love being wine-ohs too”
Jean-Luc Picard the wise. :-)
I'd like to bump some glas of french grapes with aliens!
We could use a bit of this right now. #PicardForPresident
The alien seemed to know to bring his glass forward to touch glasses. 🤔
"Oh no, my race looks just like yours, I just happened to suffer a terrible grilling accident in my fraternity days..."
THATS WHY WE LOVE YOU CAPTAIN.
Thought he was about to spit the wine out.
Picard's such a stud. Old comment section, but still a correct statement 😜
Product placement on TNG
Picard: “Trust requires time and experience. That’s why I only purchase Michelin brand warp drives- I trust them to transport my loved ones across the galaxy safely every time”
What a lovely clink sound too lol.
And that is how the Federation discovered that the people from Melkor III are deathly allergic to Earth's grapes, or any material derived of their components. Condolences and flowers will be sent shortly to the family of the chancellor and we here at the Federation express our deepest hopes that this ... tragic accident will not in any way hinder any future alliances between the good people of Melkor III and our very own Federation.
Drinking red wine out of such thin glasses. And here I thought Picard was a man of culture. *shakes head in despair*
The only Star Trek show I could get into. Picard brought the series to such a human level that everyone could enjoy.
Yep, and even with such an iconic character as Picard, they couldn't make a decent ST in 2020...!
Where's the rest of the scene? It kept getting better from there on out ...
Even though my species evolved here, we give our planet a number to signify its position in the star system.
It’s most likely due to the universal translator. It has to approximate at times. Seems likely
The first three captains were spot on for their roles.
Kirk was the cowboy captain. Shields up and phasers armed in the wild world of space exploring. He always reminded me of the cowboy in the rough old west out scouting the new area just waiting for an ambush to pop up from any where.
Picard was the smart book schooled diplomat with the silver tongue and could talk his way out of trouble or into a new friendship like this.
Sisko was the battle hard, punch first ask question later type leader who was needed during the time of war. That's why I think he's character stumbled a lot early on until the war started than he was in his element.
I wasn't really much into Voyager and Janeway. She was kind of annoying to me. If any of her crew was taken or had to deal with aliens she always preached about how they had to go by the Prime Directive.....except with Seven of Nine.By god if she ever got a hint of being in danger Janeway came in blasting everything in sight.
Janeway was the biggest "explorer-scientist" type, and one for almost maniacal strenght of morality.
I disagree about Sisko. He isn't "punch first" type, rather he's one that won't spend time on bullshit and games. He's the "down to business" type, the only captain to be able to confidently make hard decisions.
***** no one must ever forget that! HE PUNCHED Q GODDAMNIT!
As for Archer...
PassiveSmoking he did what had to be done, whether he liked it or not. in my opinion he was the strongest of the star trek captains, willing to do anything to protect humanity from the Xindi.
dissatisfiedgamer
And peeing on trees!
Picard Diplomacy: Serve your opponent alcohol without telling him it's alcohol. Easy win in the negotiating room.
hard to think this was playing on TVs in America across the country. fast forward a few decades and writers don't think Americans can't sit still for more than 5 seconds without something exploding
I know this is seven months after you wrote that, but I think if you give people a chance at something slower and more thoughtful, they'll find they still have an appetite for it.
The great George Coe...from Max Headroom.
No wine please, Captain; I only drink Coke, *CaTcH tHe WaVe*
Oh my god, it's Senator Stackhouse.
Fucking knew I recognized the voice
I imagine the chief science officer checked whether this species could drink fermented alcoholic beverages from Earth.
We have this plant on earth called cannabis...
Plot Twist. The chancellor's species has an extremely toxic reaction to grapes and he dies horribly. A war then breaks out because a Starfleet captain assassinated the chancellor.
That was well done.
... looks like a cheeky little smile at the end there ... hehehe
Ah yes, grape drank.
I think one of that guy's eyebrows might have been half falling off his face the whole scene
Was your dishwasher busted Picard? You poured red wine into a champagne glass...
It's a space-glass. For space-booze.
Perhaps the aliens from Melcor 2 will be more accepting of the federation.
If Starfleet observes naval traditions, Capt Picard should know that YOU NEVER CLINK GLASSES, especially aboard ship. It’s bad luck.
well, they also didnt look each other in the eyes while clinking the glasses together. Thats 7 years of bad sex, if you are German. Traditions and superstitions vary from place to place.
In time, Malcor 3 would become Humanity 2.0. Such wisdom in the face of such ambiguity. This Leader was ridiculous.
101st Article of First Contact states
I wonder.. did the captain consciously pour more into his glass, creating a subliminal message to project his higher status within this proposal of communing?
This was probably take 34 and he stopped caring
@@jblyon2 On a movie set maybe, this was a tv show. They don't have time for 34 takes.
@@Commanderziff Star Trek infamous for long shooting days.
greedy picard puts more wine in his glass
Send Picard to speak with Putin at once!
Strongbow!!
Great scene, but it always bugs me that he calls his own planet "Malcor 3"... its like me saying "We have something very similar down on good old Sol-3". ;)
Always into a Picard lesson, me, well
Am I lacking an episode?
It will be so perfect if he replied ,trust is earned not given
They named their OWN planet "Melkor 3" XD
The fact he mention his country as name-3 is weird.
Maybe they’ve colonised other planets in their system? The original one is Malcor, then they moved to a new one which they called New Malcor. But rather than the next one being called New New Malcor, they opted for a number instead. And maybe keeping the name is significant. Who knows?
4 Star Wars fans...
Kneel before Zod!
Nothing explodes? No mirror universe? No shape shifter assassins? What is this nonsense? * angry kurtzman noises *
The alien sounds a lot like Robert Stack.
Stack house?
The Chancellor is the host from Unsolved Mysteries right?
Always first step: drinking
Kirk would of charmed the crap out of this guy and he's sign whatever kirk wanted. Charisma is unstoppable.